Two items that helped the Soviet reistance on the Ost Front. The allied bombing of German war factories. Germans were not able to replace the top notch tanks they were fielding once destroyed. This was due in part because American and British air raids were taking their toll. Lend lease was the second prong of this reinforcement. Raw materials and some finished combat goods were transferred to the Soviets to help keep them on their feet. I will admit that the Soviets bled more against Germans
@Spadadiforza What about the 2nd Front - you kow the invasion of Europe - later to start with Normandy? Apparently Stalin demanded and pleaded that while the air raids did provide aid for the Soviet Resistance until the advent of Italy's downfall and the bitter stalemate at Kursk (well the Germans lost more 1-1 value) the Germans were still capable of full force against the Russians - as Soviet battle casualties pointed out
@Spadadiforza The second front (Normandy) would force the Germans to divert some more divisions to the Western Front and 'ease' the Red Army's pain (though it was still excruciating for Soviet battle casualties) - but the raw materials and the air raids wre definite decicive factor - though its interesting Rooselevelt once told Churchill when the latter was arguing with Stalin on a second front that 'Uncle Joe (Stalin) was destroying more equiptment and Germans than you and I put together'...
@HeirofGojira91 Take a look at the numbers of panzer divisions Germany used at the battle of the bulge. Also take into account the impact the 8th airforce had on German Industry....if German industry wasn't being bombed, the numbers of production would have been higher than the known production numbers. This would only translate to more battlefield casualties for the Allies.
@Spadadiforza Speaking of the bombings I have read that important alloys and metals such as Nickel, Tungsten, Molybdenum, Manganese were short by 1944-1945 - particularly for not just tanks but also jet fighters like the 262 - and ball bearings - quite important for the tank industry manufacturing for good reason - apparently the bombings made it very difficult to develop more bearings for the tanks for the matter!
@HeirofGojira91 And yet the factories in Germany ramped their production, increasing numbers each year. So much for the shortages.....A good measure of shortages could have bee offset by the invasion of the areas surrounding northern Leningrad. What choked German production supplies was complex designs needing many more parts than an allied weapon to do the same job. This coupled with USSR and the US's industrial might evened the playing field.
@Spadadiforza I saw a picture of an SU-122 Assault gun - the commentator of the book/picture anecdoted that whilst it was very 'crude' in manufacture with rough edges and tooling it was 'nonetheless equivalent to do the job as the more polished German designs' - and thats definitely true - given the masses of T-34/85 tanks and hundreds of arty's - I believe by 1944-1945 an entire front of a Soviet formation could have one gun every four metres apart ready for a mass bombardament?
@HeirofGojira91 Even the Soviet T34 tanks had raw welds holding the tank hull together, no grinding to defined crisp edges like on the German Panther tanks. My point is all of these factors combined contributed to the demise of the overextended German armed forces and its military industrial complex.
@riverman1949 The US 8th was not alone in bombing German industry, but pound for pount, the USAF 8th was a vast operation when compared to the RAF campaign.
@Spadadiforza You went to the first chart in Wickipedia which refers to total bombs dropped, not just on Germany. Additionally yor previous comments (a) ignored the RAF contribution and then (b) sais that 8th Air Force contribution was massive in comparison. Clearly not so and an insult to the 55,000 crewmen who gave their lives bombing Germany. Again a bigger total than the 8th AirForce.
@riverman1949 I stand corrected with respect to the tonnage dropped by 8th USAAF over Germany proper being greater than the RAF. It was the USAAF over Nazi occupied Europe that bested the numbers the RAF put up. This is also not an attempt at disrespecting those who gave their lives whatsoever. Just a misguided statement.
@Spadadiforza I would not think that there was a competition going on between the USAAF & the RAF. Neither should we have one now. The sacrifice made by Bomber Command is still a very sensitive issue in the UK & Commonwealth. Two members of my family died as Stirling crew members. One 19 the other 21.
@Spadadiforza Good man ! Thank you. My 19 year old cousin was shot down & killed while minelaying in a Stirling bomber. The week before, he had parachuted to safety when his previous plane crashed.
@HeirofGojira91 That is because the Soviet had more boots on the ground than the allies did. The Soviet paid dearly for their destruction of German men and machines. No disrespect meant to them either. God Bless the Red Army vets.
You are overlooking the fact the atomic bomb made everything mute that the nazi's and japs, had to offer. The stupid Americans had to fight another world war that the fucking europeans and asians started. fuck europe and asia, next time, let them fight thier own godamn war they start in the future.
@glynamus Typical redneck behavior... what would america do if there was no europe? Where would they sell theyr tipically SHIT military equipment? right ... to no one...
@jerrymail There were no strict rules other than "paint to match terrain", but i agree with you as this looks like someone inside the maintainance crew r-e-a-l-l-y likes his new spray gun, haha.....
Im assuming that this runner, and others like it from the time, are still running on original engines, tracks, etc. Obviously there are no spare parts just lying around, or are they using REmanufactured copies? Can anyone fill me in please?
I certainly would not like to be a U.S. infantry man or even a tanker and run into one of these without a good deep hole. I appreciate the post's of the remaining WW2 AFV as( despite some seiuosly stupid comments) without youtube most of this stuff i would never see.
@916fanatic1 - The high velocity 88 mm gun mounted in the King Tiger had better ballistics than any other gun in WWII, albeit the King Tiger was a rolling piece of junk.
@ThePanzerWarMachine As a modeller this was the Jiraffe paint scheme first used in late 1944 on the Eastern front , only several Panthers were painted this way . They even have the turret numbers correct , the only thing not accurate is that they've used too much rotbraun , but hey it's 90% accurate . And it's a rare running Panther which is my favourite to build .
Why do the people who go to all the trouble of restoring these magnificent machines put such inaccurate and stupid camo schemes on them? All they have to do is go to the local model club and several knowledgeable and very willing blokes would be there in a heartbeat to paint the tank- for free...hell they'd pay for the chance! I certainly would!
@shiva369 - I don't think, the camo's too ugly or stupid. Many different camos were used during WWII. Google: wacky's RC tank guides & modifications Tiger paint-schemes, click on No 32. I hadn't seen anything like this before ! And No 30 isn't too different from the camo in this vid
stalin focused this production only on some few war machienes like t34........
so there was a huge lack of the simplest thing in the red army( boots for example)
adittional most russian soliers had to run to the battlefield or were sitting on the rear of a t34......which was an excellent target for german rifleman
stalin thought i wouldnt bee necessary to produce cars like the sdkfz 250 or this american m4 transporter
Put a modern engine into it, replace the regular steel with chobham (trust me, modern armor isnt thicker but from other materials) and replace the main gun.
->modern battle tank.
Could use some GPS equipment then, but overall a advanced version of the Panther would still be pretty capable. Im thinking of a 1500PS MTU engine. Man this thing would fly.
There are about 28 fully operational Panthers in the world today. About 24 more are currently being restored. In the Ardennes Forest, there are about 20 Panthers in museums or permanently situated in the middle of town squares like Houffalize. In the USA, quite a few Panthers exist in museums like the famous Patton Museum in Kentucky. There are also Panthers in Samur, France, and Bovington, England.
Does anyone know if the Panther that sat in the centre of Paris near the miitary school is still there or if it's been restored ? I remember as a small boy crawling all over it in the early 60's and I guess falling in love with it! From what I remember it had a Free French emblem on the front of it
In the world only exist 28 Panthers and only 6 operative. 1 in jaques littlefield museum, 1 is Saummur, 1 In Munster, 1 In koblenz, this in Kubinka and other in private collection in Germany. There are also only 3 JagdPanther operative: 1 in koblenz, 1 in Munster and 1 in England.
Just mark cowards thumbs down and spam. He is like an STD. Never address him. Just ignore him and mark him spam. He isn't interested in anything truthful.
His life is literally a wasteland. All he has to do is troll online. He will pick a fight with anyone over anything saying the dumbest things he can imagine.
Give him nothing back. Mark him thumbs down and spam. Never interact with him.
@Thetyanet While the M-4 was the most significant tank in the British armored forces following the African Campaigns they also fielded large numbers of Crusader's Cromwells, Valentines and Churchill's in various marks and unlike the Germans of Soviets built large numbers of ships both merchant and warships and stratigic bombers. British tanks which began equals to German armore in 1940 became about a year behind. .
n the whole winning both world wars thing...without the US russia would of been the only one capable of standin up to germany...yea brits woulda won victories here n there..but in the long run germany woulda won...n for bein the worlds largest empire ya sure in the hell couldnt handle a few rag tag rebels who didnt wanna pay their taxes huh : )
Without the U.S. and Britian the Soviet Union would probably not survived the initial German invasion. Do some research on lendlease. It is true that Russia produced massive amounts of war materials but lend lease was there when it was needed and after the Ukraine fell it was lend lease that fed the Soviets. It was also lend lease that provided raw materials and machine tools to help in the production of war materials. It is Soviet prpaganda that reduces the value of lend lease. Do research
@scottduncan44 OOH lendlease!,yeah its easy to produce shitloads of materials when you are too much of a wuss to stay out of the fight! you might want to contribute the fact that the russian army learned how to fight only after they got invaded,they used blitzkrieg against the germans,nothing to do with lendlease,more to do with the fact that the uk were fighting them on the western front so they fought on two sides.
@Therifles100 - The Soviet Union never used Blitzkrieg tactics. They didn't use any tactics at all in fact. All they did was to keep throwing soldiers at the Germans over and over and over, until they simply overwhelmed the Germans with numbers. This is why so many Soviet Union soldiers died in WWII. The Soviet Union high command had absolutely zero regard for life and over 20,000,000 soldiers/conscripts from the Soviet Union died because of this.
@Echeque5 well actually thats arse,it was 11 million soldiers and 11 million civis,so uber fail on that front.and the russians used blitzkrieg at kursk and the battle of the bulge to counter attack the germans using what they had learned from the past few years...so your wrong.
@Therifles100 - The Soviet Union didn't use any Blitzkrieg tactics at Kursk or anywhere else. Blitzkrieg tactics are used by an attacking force and at Kursk, the Russians were on the defensive against Germany's Operation Citadel attack. Kursk had been built into a fortress by the Soviet's. Blitzkrieg means, "Lightning war", which is a concentrated force of tanks, infantry, artillery and air power all focused in one area to break through enemy lines. The Soviets never did this. Look it up.
@Echeque5 Technically you are wrong. The soviets had their own blitzkrieg tactics that were similar. In fact many historians can argue the fact that the blitzkrieg tactic was first developed by the Russians but the Germans were the first to put it to use and adapt it. Russia and Germany spent a lot of time sharing technologies theories and strategies from the early 30s up until 1941.
@RedPower012 - I can recommend you read the book, "Panzer Battles", by Major General F.W. von Melenthin, Chief of Staff, 4th German Panzer Army. This gentleman spent quite a bit of time fighting the Soviet army on the Eastern front and you will learn all about the bloody, non-caring, "tactics", the Soviet army used in WWII. They even machine gunned down their own soldiers if they returned from an attack against German positions that failed. They were, "Traitors to the fatherland and cowards".
@Echeque5 Its "Traitors to the motherland and cowards" and deserters were shot on all sides. The Russian killing of traitors is very exaggerated, it did happen but it was not as often as is often described. There was a lot more selfless action from the Russians however, they were fighting to defend their nation, where as the Germans where the invaders. Would you throw yourself under a tank grasping explosives to save your comrades? Not many can comprehend the Russian situation in WWII.
@RedPower012 - Returning from a failed attack and being shot for just returning is something only the Soviets did to their conscripted/forced to fight soldiers in WWII. Of course anyone with a reasonable mind knows that simply returning from a battle that didn't succeed isn't being, "A traitor to the fatherland and a coward". That was merely the Soviets method of forcing their conscripted soldiers to fight; fight or be shot. Wonderful, "motivator". Russian citizens became refugee's and RAN...
@Echeque5 Civilians die in war, America killed millions of civilians during WWII, and deserters were executed by any party of the war. It was done by all sides during WWI, and Russians main problem is that they were still following the old doctrine. In WWI Germans, Russians, American, British and French were forced to charge, anybody who turned back was mowed down. Now I know your not a historian, you know nothing of military history.
@RedPower012 ... from their own army as they advanced on the German held area's, retreating WITH the German army. Behind German lines, Soviet planes would shoot anything that moved, be it a German soldier or a Soviet citizen. They didn't care as life meant nothing to them. Soviet soldiers were forced to march into minefields arm-in-arm to clear them by blowing themselves up. The Soviet people didn't fight because they wanted to retain communism, but because they were *forced* to fight or be shot
@Echeque5 about 8-9 million Russian military personnel died to the Germans in WWII. You sound like somebody who watches to many Hollywood movies. You probably think that the Germans got a 10:1 kill ratio at Stalingrad what with the walls of Russians and all. In fact the large volume of casualties was due to the the Russians not being prepared for war, they were under trained and under supplied. In addition due to the poor leadership experience it was the Russians who were always outnumbered.
@RedPower012 - There were close to 14 million Soviet soldiers killed in WWII, (HistoryPlace doot com), more than any other nation, because of the Soviet high commands, "tactics", of just throwing more bodies into a battle until they won by sheer numbers. They cared nothing about the lives of their soldiers. I'm a historian and have been studying WWII in particular for the past 40 years. The Soviets were never outnumbered in WWII. They had a huge population to draw conscripts from.
@Echeque5 That is only one figure, the numbers range from 7.5 to 13.5 million. Even to this day is it unclear exactly how many Russian soldiers had fallen. Tell me what the numbers were at the start of the invasion of Stalingrad? 250,000 Germans to 20,000 Russians is outnumbered to me. If you are a historian you should know that the Germans maintained full air superiority from 1941 to 1943 and this was responsible for massive Russian losses. My reference is Russian soldiers.
@RedPower012 - Yes indeed at the *beginning* of the battle of Stalingrad, but the Soviets reinforced their army their and quickly outnumbered the Germans, surrounded them and annihilated the German 6th army of 300,000 soldiers. Again, read the book, "Panzer Battles". Enjoy.
@Echeque5 Germany lost 1 million in Stalingrad not 300,000, the Russians lost just over 1 million. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? So the Germans have better trained men, better tactics, better equipment and they only manage a 2:1 ratio over the Russians, the Russians who were slaughtered by their own? You need to talk to some Russians who served, your view of the Russian military is fucked.
@RedPower012 - Son, I'm sorry you are so upset and feel the childish need to make personal attacks, but that doesn't change history and somehow make you suddenly correct. "Panzer Battles". Read. Learn.
@Echeque5 "Yes indeed at the *beginning* of the battle of Stalingrad, but the Soviets reinforced their army their and quickly outnumbered the Germans, surrounded them and annihilated the German 6th army of 300,000 soldiers. Again, read the book, "Panzer Battles". Enjoy. " Love this quote, from this I can tell you know nothing about the Eastern front as Stalingrad was the most well known battle, and my 5 year old brother can tell you that it was anything but quick lasting almost a year.
@RedPower012 - Son, don't misquote me. I never said Stalingrad was a quick battle. I said that the Soviets quickly sent in reinforcements and outnumbered the 300,000 man strong German 6th army, which is why the Germans lost Stalingrad. Don't lie.
@Echeque5 Battle of Odessa (1941 ) , 340,000 vs 34,000 is outnumbered to me. Most of the major encountered had the Russians outnumbered, most of the time they simply had more reserves but at any one time on the field it was usually the Germans with numeric superiority. You are not a very good historian, seems a 21 year old knows more history then you.
@RedPower012 - Son, look up the population of the Soviet Union in 1939 and also Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union had a much larger population than Nazi Germany, which is why they prevailed with their mass attacks and millions of their conscripted/forced to fight soldiers. Again, read the book, "Panzer Battles", it will help you understand the truth.
@Echeque5 Not quite true although close. The total of Soviet loses including civilians was about 20 millions. The Soviet did have tactics once they had ample production their assault method was a powerful artillary barrage, air superiority , great numbers of Sturmoviks follwed by large concentrations of T-34's followed by infantry. As you said they overwhemed the Germans despite German's tactical superiority if for no other reason is that the Germans would run out of Ammunition.
Seeking peace is not a bad thing. If you are so ignorant that you do not know the importance of lendlease to the Survival of the Soviets then you are a victim of Soviet propaganda. They were the only nation to repudiate their lendlease obligations. Some things are mathamatical. If you have 15 ounces on a balance it will never outweigh a pound its the last two ounces that make the differenve.
@Therifles100 It was not easy to produce vast quantities of war materials. The U.S. industrial capacity was part of an large scale co ordinated stratigic campaign. The chief of Staff of the U.S. general staff George C. Marshall realized that Ww2 would be a war of material and technology and worked on both effectivly. The lack of effective U.S. antitank capacity in their tanks was a result of a flawed tactical doctrine.
@scottduncan44 -You are 100% correct.The communist Soviet Union would have been totally crushed by the Germany army during WWII if it weren't for the aid they had received from the U.S.A America sent the following to help the Soviet Union withstand the onslaught from the armies of Germany during WWII-
@scottduncan44 There are very accurate records of lend lease materials. Prominent were some 45,000 radio sets. This made an almost unimagined difference to Soviet operation control. They began armored combat without radio's and used flags to signal from tank to tank. This greatly accounted for the loss of 10,ooo's of BT-7's and T-26"s as well as early two man turret T-34's.
@scottduncan44 As i understand it lend lease sent Airocobras, shermans and chevy trucks to USSR. The Airocobra was a failure that the yanks and poms didn't want, the shermans were rubbish compaired to the T34 but helped when T34s were in short supply. The chevy trucks were well liked of the lend lease hardware. The biggest thing that USSR supplied was cannon fodder of which no one had as much as them. without USSR on our side Europe would still be a german state
@scottduncan44 That is BULLSHIT! Peddling the same old nonsense that the US has been doing since WW2. The Russians faced 90% of the German armed forces in WW2. They fought titanic battles like Moscow, Leningrad, Krakow, Kursk and Stalingrad even before the US was in France! Despite the initial invasion loses in manufacturing, the Russians nearly produced as many tanks and armored fighting machines as did the US. These are all facts! Stop placing lend lease as the Russian victory in WW2.
@scottduncan44 omg!! stop listening to games)!!$ U.S. did nothing with Germany)!*$ the best tank they had was Sherman!$!!#$! IT WAS NOTHING compared to Tiger DUDE.
@4FunPlayin The best tank the American had was the M-26 Pershing. It came too late in the war to be of much service though. But it could knock out a King Tiger easily. There was a variant of it using the 90mm HV gun that went through a German Panther TD at over a mile. Shell went through front armor, passenger compt, engine compt, engine,crankshaft, out the rear and buried itself in the ground. Only 3 were experimentally built. They were called "Super Pershing"
@HermannWillie90 You would be lucky to survive one day in Combat in a Jagdtiger. American airvraft would take one out quickly. There were Shermans that saw combat for months. By the time of the Normandy campaign the Luftwaff was defeated and the Germans could only move armored forces at night. Rommel had argued for the positioning of the Panzer troops close to the Beaches because he understood what would happen on a longer march.
@HermannWillie90 The Pershing was a second rate tank. The Ford engine was , as you state too weak. The British used a detuned Merlin in the Cromwell and Centurion. The U.S. built Packard Merlins were available but not used. The Pershing would have helped a year earlier. It was stratigicaly meaningless. As were the JagdPanther , King Tigers and Jagdtigers. They could tacticaly control a Battlefield for a short while. . Both on the Eastern and western front aircraft would take them out
@HermannWillie90 American's did have an excellent stratigic approach.In the European campaign's they fought an expensive war. The Stratigic bombing campaign was very expensive in terms of men , munitions and aircraft. I think the U.S. lost some 50,000 aircrew.It is very simple every 88mm AA gun deployed against the Allied stratigic bombers and every German fighter were not available to support the Eastern front.
@scottduncan44 The Pershing was not a second rate tank but essentialy meaningless in terms of any importance to WW 2 operations. It was however the beginning of a line of tank development that ended with the M-60. IT introduced the Torsion bar suspension and a modern sloped armor hull The 90mm gun was an important eeapon as it could not only act as an effective anti tank gun, if not as effective asthe Panther's 75mm and King Tigers 88mm, it was capable of firing an acceptable H.E. round.
Get your facts straight. USSR was already starting to push Germany back and was winning the war when troop from USA arrived. USSR eventually would have liberated everyone else.
@MrConsumerWhore1 Without lendlease the Soviets would have lost their campaign. This does not negate the tremendous efforts and loses of the Soviets. In the critical period during the first years campaign it was lendlease that tipped the balance. Lendlease was a force multiplier. It provided neccessary materials that the Soviets could not produce such as radio's , tubes , trucks and most importantly food. With the german occupation of the Ukraine the Soviets could not feed their population.
@MrConsumerWhore1 I do invest the time to reseach facts before posting an opinion. Unlike those like you who seem to lack the computer skills to access the vast amounts of data available and seem content to express empty opinions with no basis in fact and no shame at exihibiting such a profound level of ignorance where it can be veiwed by anyone who cares.
russians were the first to knock out a tiger...since the eastern front is where they first saw action...first king tiger on the western front was knocked out by the brits....but was in a american tank with a brit gun....brit armor was decent till the panther n tiger came around then they had nothin for em till 44 with the firefly...but that wasnt a true brit tank....only the comet could compare...n i think they came too late to see action..
omg... jetz versuchen sie auch noch die amerikanischen panzerleute als bessere und erfolgreichere panzerleute darzustellen???!!!
eure panzer waren unterlegen genau so wie die jeweiligen mannschaften! die deutschen waren wie immer im soldatischen und technischen überlegen aber leider nicht in der anzahl!
lol tanks had infantry support, specially important tanks as the panther, if u get the range to put a potatos in the exhausts, it would probablly be an already abandoned tank
Get your infantry wiped out and then abandon the tank.
Brithjt ideas froma guy living in a country which is destroying the rainforest and not growing food because they can make more money from growing bio fuels.
lol dude, u dont know nothing about war then. war is not a game that u walk with a few infantry or a damn movie... they had thousends and thousends of infantry support... if they all die, is because the position is being badly overrun, and the tank would die anyway... and wtf changing the focus to my contry lol
Now we know that Nth Korea is one of the biggest illicit drug exporters in the world, so its obvious that you are sticking needles in yourself and snorting little white lines of snow.
May i ask which war you are referring too that quotes "exterminated the entire USA military"??? Nth Korea wouldn't last a day. So Kim Jong illl lover, go get your portrait of him, pull down your pants, flop out incredibley small asian penis and starting tugging over it, thats about the merit of your comments
None of which have ever fought and destroyed flogger of foxhound jets.
You claim North Korea wouldnt last a day yet USA has been exterminated in Iraq and is pulling out next year proving a great bog fat loss on the record.
And which wars are those my friend? Yeah, Floggers and Foxhounds are half decent relics from the cold war, yep, you're quoting state of the art there.
USA has been exterminated in Iraq have they. Either your English is pure shit, or you have shit for brains, so if they have been exterminated then how are they pulling out? Either they're dead or they're not. Which is it you drug fucked, needle jabbing, small dicked asian?
ALL HAIL KIM JONG ILL, the nutjob and his mate here on YOUTUBE
So, if you are in Iraq, Al-Queda flies Floggers and Foxhounds do they? So, how would they get the chance to engage them? They're not fighting the local populace, and combat in iraq is starting to subside.
Bombings of civilians, well thats usually done by carbomb, not aerial bombs, so you've fucked up there.
Look, you're scared shittless that the Coalition will invade Nth Korea, and we understand that;....but do yourself a favour and stay off the drugs
I dont know do they fly floggers and Foxhounds? After all they seem to be proving the USA military a bunch of cowards. After all USa has proven even after 7 years they are too weak to beat them? Bombings of civillains? Surely thats USas job which they have done constantly. Scared. LMAO SAeak of youre own experience. Men will go up and beyond. Its their right to aviod. USA claims the democratically elected leader of Afghanistan as a terrorist these days. Youre filth deal with it
and all of this started because u had the einstein idea to put granades in tanks backs... but im pretty sure u would shit ur pants just when u hear his engine.. and would run to ur life, not run to its back and install a grande lol.. its not a video game... but i understand ur angry... u from UK, lol... UK armor sucked in late war so bad, they didnt even count
great tank the krauts did build some great tanks a pity most of them could nt have been mass produced at the time like the shermans or t 34's.well its a pity if your a nazi
Nice clip...too bad the russians got hold of this marwel...They should live in holes in the ground or better yet nowhere at all...Too bad Germany lost the war before they distroyed Russia.The world would have been a better place alltogether.Russians apart feew exceptions are nothing more than mere peasants with the use of heavy drinking lack of most basic manners,rape and theft.From Romania
блядь из всех надобило обизательно с убитим двиглом оставить ето по нашему .....
Fjurrer 1 month ago
I love this tank......but the camouflage is not german ?!
The engine hearts original....but is it original?
Falke40lg 4 months ago
Two items that helped the Soviet reistance on the Ost Front. The allied bombing of German war factories. Germans were not able to replace the top notch tanks they were fielding once destroyed. This was due in part because American and British air raids were taking their toll. Lend lease was the second prong of this reinforcement. Raw materials and some finished combat goods were transferred to the Soviets to help keep them on their feet. I will admit that the Soviets bled more against Germans
Spadadiforza 8 months ago
@Spadadiforza What about the 2nd Front - you kow the invasion of Europe - later to start with Normandy? Apparently Stalin demanded and pleaded that while the air raids did provide aid for the Soviet Resistance until the advent of Italy's downfall and the bitter stalemate at Kursk (well the Germans lost more 1-1 value) the Germans were still capable of full force against the Russians - as Soviet battle casualties pointed out
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@Spadadiforza The second front (Normandy) would force the Germans to divert some more divisions to the Western Front and 'ease' the Red Army's pain (though it was still excruciating for Soviet battle casualties) - but the raw materials and the air raids wre definite decicive factor - though its interesting Rooselevelt once told Churchill when the latter was arguing with Stalin on a second front that 'Uncle Joe (Stalin) was destroying more equiptment and Germans than you and I put together'...
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@HeirofGojira91 Take a look at the numbers of panzer divisions Germany used at the battle of the bulge. Also take into account the impact the 8th airforce had on German Industry....if German industry wasn't being bombed, the numbers of production would have been higher than the known production numbers. This would only translate to more battlefield casualties for the Allies.
Spadadiforza 1 month ago
@Spadadiforza Speaking of the bombings I have read that important alloys and metals such as Nickel, Tungsten, Molybdenum, Manganese were short by 1944-1945 - particularly for not just tanks but also jet fighters like the 262 - and ball bearings - quite important for the tank industry manufacturing for good reason - apparently the bombings made it very difficult to develop more bearings for the tanks for the matter!
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@HeirofGojira91 And yet the factories in Germany ramped their production, increasing numbers each year. So much for the shortages.....A good measure of shortages could have bee offset by the invasion of the areas surrounding northern Leningrad. What choked German production supplies was complex designs needing many more parts than an allied weapon to do the same job. This coupled with USSR and the US's industrial might evened the playing field.
Spadadiforza 1 month ago
@Spadadiforza I saw a picture of an SU-122 Assault gun - the commentator of the book/picture anecdoted that whilst it was very 'crude' in manufacture with rough edges and tooling it was 'nonetheless equivalent to do the job as the more polished German designs' - and thats definitely true - given the masses of T-34/85 tanks and hundreds of arty's - I believe by 1944-1945 an entire front of a Soviet formation could have one gun every four metres apart ready for a mass bombardament?
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
@HeirofGojira91 Even the Soviet T34 tanks had raw welds holding the tank hull together, no grinding to defined crisp edges like on the German Panther tanks. My point is all of these factors combined contributed to the demise of the overextended German armed forces and its military industrial complex.
Spadadiforza 1 month ago
@Spadadiforza I wasn't aware that the Eighth Air Force were on their own bombing Germany. I mistakenly thought that the RAF had a hand too. Silly me!
riverman1949 6 days ago
@riverman1949 The US 8th was not alone in bombing German industry, but pound for pount, the USAF 8th was a vast operation when compared to the RAF campaign.
Spadadiforza 4 days ago
@Spadadiforza The RAF dropped 964,644 tons of bombes on Germany in WW2. The US 8th Airforce 623,418 tons. How then was the US operation bigger?
riverman1949 4 days ago
@riverman1949
I don't know where you get your data but a source I found on a routine search yielded tonnage of bombs dropped USAAF = 1,463,423 vs RAF 1,307,117
Bomber sorties 754,818 vs RAF 687,462.
Also note the fact that the US had a pacific theater of operations and a much larger industrial base.
Spadadiforza 1 day ago
@Spadadiforza You went to the first chart in Wickipedia which refers to total bombs dropped, not just on Germany. Additionally yor previous comments (a) ignored the RAF contribution and then (b) sais that 8th Air Force contribution was massive in comparison. Clearly not so and an insult to the 55,000 crewmen who gave their lives bombing Germany. Again a bigger total than the 8th AirForce.
riverman1949 1 day ago
@riverman1949 I stand corrected with respect to the tonnage dropped by 8th USAAF over Germany proper being greater than the RAF. It was the USAAF over Nazi occupied Europe that bested the numbers the RAF put up. This is also not an attempt at disrespecting those who gave their lives whatsoever. Just a misguided statement.
Spadadiforza 1 day ago
@Spadadiforza I would not think that there was a competition going on between the USAAF & the RAF. Neither should we have one now. The sacrifice made by Bomber Command is still a very sensitive issue in the UK & Commonwealth. Two members of my family died as Stirling crew members. One 19 the other 21.
riverman1949 1 day ago
@riverman1949 This is why I conceded, you had every right to set me straight. Godspeed to your lost loved ones.
Spadadiforza 1 day ago
@Spadadiforza Good man ! Thank you. My 19 year old cousin was shot down & killed while minelaying in a Stirling bomber. The week before, he had parachuted to safety when his previous plane crashed.
riverman1949 15 hours ago
@HeirofGojira91 That is because the Soviet had more boots on the ground than the allies did. The Soviet paid dearly for their destruction of German men and machines. No disrespect meant to them either. God Bless the Red Army vets.
Spadadiforza 1 month ago
@Spadadiforza Hope what I said makes sense in a way...
HeirofGojira91 1 month ago
You are overlooking the fact the atomic bomb made everything mute that the nazi's and japs, had to offer. The stupid Americans had to fight another world war that the fucking europeans and asians started. fuck europe and asia, next time, let them fight thier own godamn war they start in the future.
glynamus 11 months ago
@glynamus Typical redneck behavior... what would america do if there was no europe? Where would they sell theyr tipically SHIT military equipment? right ... to no one...
robvanmol 1 month ago
@robvanmol europe would be owned by the fucking russians in ww2 not us hahahahhaha
glynamus 1 month ago
@glynamus Nah america would be owned by the russians because what would U do when europe was in russias hands? right... lose the cold war.
robvanmol 1 month ago
the Panther = Panzer sex
TigerIPanzer 1 year ago
That dude stole my car -.- how do i get to school now ??
QuellDerQual 1 year ago
Fantastic! It is amazing to see an important piece of histroy that is not just sitting and rotting. I would love to see the Panther close up.
49bobbyk 1 year ago
do you happen to have a vid with the kubinka Karl-Gerät?
cfs3000 1 year ago
Best tank of the war
seanson38 1 year ago
A great sight & sound! The Kubinka exhibits are often painted in, shall one say "imaginative" colour schemes.
Pzkpfwe 1 year ago
It really works nicely! Congratulations to the mechanics!
However, the camouflage seems a bit odd to me.
jerrymail 1 year ago
@jerrymail There were no strict rules other than "paint to match terrain", but i agree with you as this looks like someone inside the maintainance crew r-e-a-l-l-y likes his new spray gun, haha.....
BigAndTall666 1 year ago
Im assuming that this runner, and others like it from the time, are still running on original engines, tracks, etc. Obviously there are no spare parts just lying around, or are they using REmanufactured copies? Can anyone fill me in please?
pathdaly 1 year ago
★★★★★
petrwarry72 1 year ago
I certainly would not like to be a U.S. infantry man or even a tanker and run into one of these without a good deep hole. I appreciate the post's of the remaining WW2 AFV as( despite some seiuosly stupid comments) without youtube most of this stuff i would never see.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
take a look at the best european tank museums and learn about how to paint a WW2 german vehicle.
tonidmc 1 year ago
Paint is desert camo,seves it's purpose.The panther had the best gun of any tank i ww2.even better than 88mm
916fanatic1 1 year ago
@916fanatic1 - The high velocity 88 mm gun mounted in the King Tiger had better ballistics than any other gun in WWII, albeit the King Tiger was a rolling piece of junk.
Echeque5 1 year ago
dont get me wrong: that is an ungly Paintjob.
ThePanzerWarMachine 2 years ago
@ThePanzerWarMachine As a modeller this was the Jiraffe paint scheme first used in late 1944 on the Eastern front , only several Panthers were painted this way . They even have the turret numbers correct , the only thing not accurate is that they've used too much rotbraun , but hey it's 90% accurate . And it's a rare running Panther which is my favourite to build .
dafydd67 2 years ago
yeah, too bad.
Maxobillion 2 years ago
@ Shiva369, you must understand the difference between Men who are Professionals and boys who play with Toys.
supertechie276 2 years ago
Why do the people who go to all the trouble of restoring these magnificent machines put such inaccurate and stupid camo schemes on them? All they have to do is go to the local model club and several knowledgeable and very willing blokes would be there in a heartbeat to paint the tank- for free...hell they'd pay for the chance! I certainly would!
shiva369 2 years ago
well, you are so right, its a pity!
rgfgrg 2 years ago
looks like a giraffe!
dansterrrr 2 years ago
@shiva369 - I don't think, the camo's too ugly or stupid. Many different camos were used during WWII. Google: wacky's RC tank guides & modifications Tiger paint-schemes, click on No 32. I hadn't seen anything like this before ! And No 30 isn't too different from the camo in this vid
MegaLiopleurodon 2 years ago
thats absolutly right
stalin focused this production only on some few war machienes like t34........
so there was a huge lack of the simplest thing in the red army( boots for example)
adittional most russian soliers had to run to the battlefield or were sitting on the rear of a t34......which was an excellent target for german rifleman
stalin thought i wouldnt bee necessary to produce cars like the sdkfz 250 or this american m4 transporter
RitterDerKokosnusss 2 years ago
Thank you scott.
Quite right.
rdoble 2 years ago
Put a modern engine into it, replace the regular steel with chobham (trust me, modern armor isnt thicker but from other materials) and replace the main gun.
->modern battle tank.
Could use some GPS equipment then, but overall a advanced version of the Panther would still be pretty capable. Im thinking of a 1500PS MTU engine. Man this thing would fly.
Mustang1204 2 years ago
sick camo..
arabiancamal 2 years ago
It does look pretty ill, doesn't it?
Echeque5 2 years ago
I imagine quite a few older russian,british or american viewers got chills up and down their spines at the sight and sound of this beast..
pzgdr 2 years ago
pzgdr - Considering the very poor reliability record of German tanks like the Panther and King Tiger, no need to fear a broken down tank.
Echeque5 2 years ago
whether running or not that 75ml high power gun would fuck up most peoples day..
pzgdr 2 years ago
@pzgdr - I am sure it sickens many people.
Echeque5 1 year ago
Nicer if repaint
thoton9801 2 years ago
Why fantasy painting? That was the camouflage for eastern front or not?!
Hackegrape 2 years ago
Good vid,superbe sound!>But:awful,fantasy painting!!OK,but the guys do an exellent job!!Keep on!!
MrFredo007 2 years ago
I think the chassis is good for our days even :D
Trosc100 2 years ago
awesome sound
hasemithut 2 years ago
most popular tank panther
konistiger 2 years ago
hello can any body tell me were this panther is loated and how many are left in the world thanks
biggzyboys 2 years ago
There are about 28 fully operational Panthers in the world today. About 24 more are currently being restored. In the Ardennes Forest, there are about 20 Panthers in museums or permanently situated in the middle of town squares like Houffalize. In the USA, quite a few Panthers exist in museums like the famous Patton Museum in Kentucky. There are also Panthers in Samur, France, and Bovington, England.
SWALE1984 2 years ago 3
Does anyone know if the Panther that sat in the centre of Paris near the miitary school is still there or if it's been restored ? I remember as a small boy crawling all over it in the early 60's and I guess falling in love with it! From what I remember it had a Free French emblem on the front of it
riverboy54 2 years ago
Now is in Summur musum in France as a project to be maybe restored and still has the free french emblem on the front.
tonidmc 2 years ago
In the world only exist 28 Panthers and only 6 operative. 1 in jaques littlefield museum, 1 is Saummur, 1 In Munster, 1 In koblenz, this in Kubinka and other in private collection in Germany. There are also only 3 JagdPanther operative: 1 in koblenz, 1 in Munster and 1 in England.
tonidmc 2 years ago
Just mark cowards thumbs down and spam. He is like an STD. Never address him. Just ignore him and mark him spam. He isn't interested in anything truthful.
His life is literally a wasteland. All he has to do is troll online. He will pick a fight with anyone over anything saying the dumbest things he can imagine.
Give him nothing back. Mark him thumbs down and spam. Never interact with him.
IlSeFousDeTaGuele 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
It would appear Flogger foxhound= FREEDOM!!
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Its called reality.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
I beleie they call it stratigaically alined.
Its called protection.
Where they may only kill 1 US troop and USa may kill 1,000 of theirs but USA will leave and ultimatly lose.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
lahmmmmmmm
softairfutzi 2 years ago
sister of KINGTIGER
SamahKB 2 years ago
Awesome! To be sure! Massive I think is another word! Right on Capitan!
horonaim3L 2 years ago
And in response to USArCOWARDS's 3 part of his comment.
The UK's tanks in WWII were supplied by the US, by the most part.
Thetyanet 2 years ago
owards is delusional. He has severe self-esteem issues & so makes things up to stroke his ego.
Don't discuss anything with him. It is a waste of time. Just mark him thumbs down every time you see him.
IlSeFousDeTaGuele 2 years ago
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Thetyanet,
Keeop dreaming yank.
USA's tanks in WW2 were death traps.
The firefly was created by Britain because you yanks were up for the slaughter like th human trash you were.
Without the firefly no tiger tanks wouled of beendestroyed and USA would be owned by Japan.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
@Thetyanet While the M-4 was the most significant tank in the British armored forces following the African Campaigns they also fielded large numbers of Crusader's Cromwells, Valentines and Churchill's in various marks and unlike the Germans of Soviets built large numbers of ships both merchant and warships and stratigic bombers. British tanks which began equals to German armore in 1940 became about a year behind. .
scottduncan44 1 year ago
off to paris lol
phonix032 2 years ago
Horrid camo job.
:(
HayateAce 3 years ago
n the whole winning both world wars thing...without the US russia would of been the only one capable of standin up to germany...yea brits woulda won victories here n there..but in the long run germany woulda won...n for bein the worlds largest empire ya sure in the hell couldnt handle a few rag tag rebels who didnt wanna pay their taxes huh : )
misfitfiend83 3 years ago
Without the U.S. and Britian the Soviet Union would probably not survived the initial German invasion. Do some research on lendlease. It is true that Russia produced massive amounts of war materials but lend lease was there when it was needed and after the Ukraine fell it was lend lease that fed the Soviets. It was also lend lease that provided raw materials and machine tools to help in the production of war materials. It is Soviet prpaganda that reduces the value of lend lease. Do research
scottduncan44 2 years ago 16
@scottduncan44 OOH lendlease!,yeah its easy to produce shitloads of materials when you are too much of a wuss to stay out of the fight! you might want to contribute the fact that the russian army learned how to fight only after they got invaded,they used blitzkrieg against the germans,nothing to do with lendlease,more to do with the fact that the uk were fighting them on the western front so they fought on two sides.
Therifles100 1 year ago
@Therifles100 - The Soviet Union never used Blitzkrieg tactics. They didn't use any tactics at all in fact. All they did was to keep throwing soldiers at the Germans over and over and over, until they simply overwhelmed the Germans with numbers. This is why so many Soviet Union soldiers died in WWII. The Soviet Union high command had absolutely zero regard for life and over 20,000,000 soldiers/conscripts from the Soviet Union died because of this.
Echeque5 1 year ago 2
@Echeque5 well actually thats arse,it was 11 million soldiers and 11 million civis,so uber fail on that front.and the russians used blitzkrieg at kursk and the battle of the bulge to counter attack the germans using what they had learned from the past few years...so your wrong.
Therifles100 1 year ago
@Therifles100 - The Soviet Union didn't use any Blitzkrieg tactics at Kursk or anywhere else. Blitzkrieg tactics are used by an attacking force and at Kursk, the Russians were on the defensive against Germany's Operation Citadel attack. Kursk had been built into a fortress by the Soviet's. Blitzkrieg means, "Lightning war", which is a concentrated force of tanks, infantry, artillery and air power all focused in one area to break through enemy lines. The Soviets never did this. Look it up.
Echeque5 1 year ago 7
@Echeque5 Technically you are wrong. The soviets had their own blitzkrieg tactics that were similar. In fact many historians can argue the fact that the blitzkrieg tactic was first developed by the Russians but the Germans were the first to put it to use and adapt it. Russia and Germany spent a lot of time sharing technologies theories and strategies from the early 30s up until 1941.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - I can recommend you read the book, "Panzer Battles", by Major General F.W. von Melenthin, Chief of Staff, 4th German Panzer Army. This gentleman spent quite a bit of time fighting the Soviet army on the Eastern front and you will learn all about the bloody, non-caring, "tactics", the Soviet army used in WWII. They even machine gunned down their own soldiers if they returned from an attack against German positions that failed. They were, "Traitors to the fatherland and cowards".
Echeque5 1 year ago 3
@Echeque5 Its "Traitors to the motherland and cowards" and deserters were shot on all sides. The Russian killing of traitors is very exaggerated, it did happen but it was not as often as is often described. There was a lot more selfless action from the Russians however, they were fighting to defend their nation, where as the Germans where the invaders. Would you throw yourself under a tank grasping explosives to save your comrades? Not many can comprehend the Russian situation in WWII.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - Returning from a failed attack and being shot for just returning is something only the Soviets did to their conscripted/forced to fight soldiers in WWII. Of course anyone with a reasonable mind knows that simply returning from a battle that didn't succeed isn't being, "A traitor to the fatherland and a coward". That was merely the Soviets method of forcing their conscripted soldiers to fight; fight or be shot. Wonderful, "motivator". Russian citizens became refugee's and RAN...
Echeque5 1 year ago
@Echeque5 Civilians die in war, America killed millions of civilians during WWII, and deserters were executed by any party of the war. It was done by all sides during WWI, and Russians main problem is that they were still following the old doctrine. In WWI Germans, Russians, American, British and French were forced to charge, anybody who turned back was mowed down. Now I know your not a historian, you know nothing of military history.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 ... from their own army as they advanced on the German held area's, retreating WITH the German army. Behind German lines, Soviet planes would shoot anything that moved, be it a German soldier or a Soviet citizen. They didn't care as life meant nothing to them. Soviet soldiers were forced to march into minefields arm-in-arm to clear them by blowing themselves up. The Soviet people didn't fight because they wanted to retain communism, but because they were *forced* to fight or be shot
Echeque5 1 year ago
@Echeque5 Huh what about the tank riders? they pushed through the german lines and caused havok in the rear
pweter351 1 year ago
@Echeque5 about 8-9 million Russian military personnel died to the Germans in WWII. You sound like somebody who watches to many Hollywood movies. You probably think that the Germans got a 10:1 kill ratio at Stalingrad what with the walls of Russians and all. In fact the large volume of casualties was due to the the Russians not being prepared for war, they were under trained and under supplied. In addition due to the poor leadership experience it was the Russians who were always outnumbered.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - There were close to 14 million Soviet soldiers killed in WWII, (HistoryPlace doot com), more than any other nation, because of the Soviet high commands, "tactics", of just throwing more bodies into a battle until they won by sheer numbers. They cared nothing about the lives of their soldiers. I'm a historian and have been studying WWII in particular for the past 40 years. The Soviets were never outnumbered in WWII. They had a huge population to draw conscripts from.
Echeque5 1 year ago 3
@Echeque5 That is only one figure, the numbers range from 7.5 to 13.5 million. Even to this day is it unclear exactly how many Russian soldiers had fallen. Tell me what the numbers were at the start of the invasion of Stalingrad? 250,000 Germans to 20,000 Russians is outnumbered to me. If you are a historian you should know that the Germans maintained full air superiority from 1941 to 1943 and this was responsible for massive Russian losses. My reference is Russian soldiers.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - Yes indeed at the *beginning* of the battle of Stalingrad, but the Soviets reinforced their army their and quickly outnumbered the Germans, surrounded them and annihilated the German 6th army of 300,000 soldiers. Again, read the book, "Panzer Battles". Enjoy.
Echeque5 1 year ago
@Echeque5 Germany lost 1 million in Stalingrad not 300,000, the Russians lost just over 1 million. Do you realize how ridiculous you sound? So the Germans have better trained men, better tactics, better equipment and they only manage a 2:1 ratio over the Russians, the Russians who were slaughtered by their own? You need to talk to some Russians who served, your view of the Russian military is fucked.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - Son, I'm sorry you are so upset and feel the childish need to make personal attacks, but that doesn't change history and somehow make you suddenly correct. "Panzer Battles". Read. Learn.
Echeque5 1 year ago 2
@Echeque5 "Yes indeed at the *beginning* of the battle of Stalingrad, but the Soviets reinforced their army their and quickly outnumbered the Germans, surrounded them and annihilated the German 6th army of 300,000 soldiers. Again, read the book, "Panzer Battles". Enjoy. " Love this quote, from this I can tell you know nothing about the Eastern front as Stalingrad was the most well known battle, and my 5 year old brother can tell you that it was anything but quick lasting almost a year.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - Son, don't misquote me. I never said Stalingrad was a quick battle. I said that the Soviets quickly sent in reinforcements and outnumbered the 300,000 man strong German 6th army, which is why the Germans lost Stalingrad. Don't lie.
Echeque5 1 year ago 2
@Echeque5 Battle of Odessa (1941 ) , 340,000 vs 34,000 is outnumbered to me. Most of the major encountered had the Russians outnumbered, most of the time they simply had more reserves but at any one time on the field it was usually the Germans with numeric superiority. You are not a very good historian, seems a 21 year old knows more history then you.
RedPower012 1 year ago
@RedPower012 - Son, look up the population of the Soviet Union in 1939 and also Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union had a much larger population than Nazi Germany, which is why they prevailed with their mass attacks and millions of their conscripted/forced to fight soldiers. Again, read the book, "Panzer Battles", it will help you understand the truth.
Echeque5 1 year ago
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scottduncan44 1 year ago
@Echeque5 Not quite true although close. The total of Soviet loses including civilians was about 20 millions. The Soviet did have tactics once they had ample production their assault method was a powerful artillary barrage, air superiority , great numbers of Sturmoviks follwed by large concentrations of T-34's followed by infantry. As you said they overwhemed the Germans despite German's tactical superiority if for no other reason is that the Germans would run out of Ammunition.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@Therifles100
Seeking peace is not a bad thing. If you are so ignorant that you do not know the importance of lendlease to the Survival of the Soviets then you are a victim of Soviet propaganda. They were the only nation to repudiate their lendlease obligations. Some things are mathamatical. If you have 15 ounces on a balance it will never outweigh a pound its the last two ounces that make the differenve.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@Therifles100 It was not easy to produce vast quantities of war materials. The U.S. industrial capacity was part of an large scale co ordinated stratigic campaign. The chief of Staff of the U.S. general staff George C. Marshall realized that Ww2 would be a war of material and technology and worked on both effectivly. The lack of effective U.S. antitank capacity in their tanks was a result of a flawed tactical doctrine.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 -You are 100% correct.The communist Soviet Union would have been totally crushed by the Germany army during WWII if it weren't for the aid they had received from the U.S.A America sent the following to help the Soviet Union withstand the onslaught from the armies of Germany during WWII-
13,300 aircraft
6,800 tanks
312,000 tons of explosives
406,000 motor trucks, (including 50,000 jeeps)
1,500 locomotives
9,800 freight cars
540,000 tons of rails
1,050,000 miles of telephone cable
Echeque5 1 year ago 3
@scottduncan44 There are very accurate records of lend lease materials. Prominent were some 45,000 radio sets. This made an almost unimagined difference to Soviet operation control. They began armored combat without radio's and used flags to signal from tank to tank. This greatly accounted for the loss of 10,ooo's of BT-7's and T-26"s as well as early two man turret T-34's.
scottduncan44 1 year ago 5
@scottduncan44
Thank you for an intelligent post which didnt resort to abuse.
pathdaly 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 тешьте себя этой мыслью...
UltraZEAM 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 As i understand it lend lease sent Airocobras, shermans and chevy trucks to USSR. The Airocobra was a failure that the yanks and poms didn't want, the shermans were rubbish compaired to the T34 but helped when T34s were in short supply. The chevy trucks were well liked of the lend lease hardware. The biggest thing that USSR supplied was cannon fodder of which no one had as much as them. without USSR on our side Europe would still be a german state
pweter351 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 That is BULLSHIT! Peddling the same old nonsense that the US has been doing since WW2. The Russians faced 90% of the German armed forces in WW2. They fought titanic battles like Moscow, Leningrad, Krakow, Kursk and Stalingrad even before the US was in France! Despite the initial invasion loses in manufacturing, the Russians nearly produced as many tanks and armored fighting machines as did the US. These are all facts! Stop placing lend lease as the Russian victory in WW2.
thegoosebrain 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 omg!! stop listening to games)!!$ U.S. did nothing with Germany)!*$ the best tank they had was Sherman!$!!#$! IT WAS NOTHING compared to Tiger DUDE.
4FunPlayin 1 year ago
@4FunPlayin The best tank the American had was the M-26 Pershing. It came too late in the war to be of much service though. But it could knock out a King Tiger easily. There was a variant of it using the 90mm HV gun that went through a German Panther TD at over a mile. Shell went through front armor, passenger compt, engine compt, engine,crankshaft, out the rear and buried itself in the ground. Only 3 were experimentally built. They were called "Super Pershing"
osu67 1 year ago
@osu67 the pershing was on his first real fight destroyed from a tiger1
in elsdorf. you dont belive me? n.p google simpel elsdorfer überraschung
the pershing had the engine from a sherman 400 hp in 42 tonns omg
the panther had 700hp on 45 tonns
when i must fight in ww2
then i will get the jagdtiger with a 12,8 pak 44 gun and not a pershing
with this gun you can destroy a pershing from the frontside in a 3000m range
with a panzergranate43/1. my fucking shit english is so badly hihi
HermannWillie90 1 year ago
@HermannWillie90 You would be lucky to survive one day in Combat in a Jagdtiger. American airvraft would take one out quickly. There were Shermans that saw combat for months. By the time of the Normandy campaign the Luftwaff was defeated and the Germans could only move armored forces at night. Rommel had argued for the positioning of the Panzer troops close to the Beaches because he understood what would happen on a longer march.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@HermannWillie90 The Pershing was a second rate tank. The Ford engine was , as you state too weak. The British used a detuned Merlin in the Cromwell and Centurion. The U.S. built Packard Merlins were available but not used. The Pershing would have helped a year earlier. It was stratigicaly meaningless. As were the JagdPanther , King Tigers and Jagdtigers. They could tacticaly control a Battlefield for a short while. . Both on the Eastern and western front aircraft would take them out
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 uhhhh America has used no tactics in this war.
only with the head through the wall.
First, the niggers(kannonenfutter) then the white pseudo Heroes(Marines)
50 000 Shermans and 57 000 T34 against 6500 panthers and 8000 tank4 ??
These numbers explain your amazing tactics!
Get a M26. i want a fight! I choose a Tank6 ausf E.
hiihi
Achtung! ein Uhr M26! Panzergranate 39 HL! say auf wiedersehn!
HermannWillie90 1 year ago
@HermannWillie90 American's did have an excellent stratigic approach.In the European campaign's they fought an expensive war. The Stratigic bombing campaign was very expensive in terms of men , munitions and aircraft. I think the U.S. lost some 50,000 aircrew.It is very simple every 88mm AA gun deployed against the Allied stratigic bombers and every German fighter were not available to support the Eastern front.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 excellent tactics?
with B17 bombers on day bombing terror
and with british Lancaster bombers bombing terror in night.
this calls you excellent tactics?!
this is probably a cowardly war crime than a well thought-out strategy.
The caliber of the Tankgrenade does not matter.
The actual length of the main gun is crucial!
The longer the main gun the higher the bullet velocity (Vo in meters / sec)!
Michael Moore speaks the truth
americans are totally stupid.
HermannWillie90 1 year ago
@HermannWillie90
I agree with you mate.
freeharddrive 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 The Pershing was not a second rate tank but essentialy meaningless in terms of any importance to WW 2 operations. It was however the beginning of a line of tank development that ended with the M-60. IT introduced the Torsion bar suspension and a modern sloped armor hull The 90mm gun was an important eeapon as it could not only act as an effective anti tank gun, if not as effective asthe Panther's 75mm and King Tigers 88mm, it was capable of firing an acceptable H.E. round.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
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345mentor 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 American propaganda sometimes would have u bielve that they won the war by themselves
Foxtrot262 1 year ago
@scottduncan44
Get your facts straight. USSR was already starting to push Germany back and was winning the war when troop from USA arrived. USSR eventually would have liberated everyone else.
MrConsumerWhore1 1 year ago
@MrConsumerWhore1 Without lendlease the Soviets would have lost their campaign. This does not negate the tremendous efforts and loses of the Soviets. In the critical period during the first years campaign it was lendlease that tipped the balance. Lendlease was a force multiplier. It provided neccessary materials that the Soviets could not produce such as radio's , tubes , trucks and most importantly food. With the german occupation of the Ukraine the Soviets could not feed their population.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@MrConsumerWhore1 I do invest the time to reseach facts before posting an opinion. Unlike those like you who seem to lack the computer skills to access the vast amounts of data available and seem content to express empty opinions with no basis in fact and no shame at exihibiting such a profound level of ignorance where it can be veiwed by anyone who cares.
scottduncan44 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 Ya the U.S sent Sherman tanks and alot of other stuff to the Soviets on lend lease
DaManzMoney 1 year ago
@scottduncan44 let alone the 2000 locomotives withouth them soviet union would be screwd over
zeron2222 5 months ago
russians were the first to knock out a tiger...since the eastern front is where they first saw action...first king tiger on the western front was knocked out by the brits....but was in a american tank with a brit gun....brit armor was decent till the panther n tiger came around then they had nothin for em till 44 with the firefly...but that wasnt a true brit tank....only the comet could compare...n i think they came too late to see action..
misfitfiend83 3 years ago
what about the m10, nashrom and many more russians\germans armor with open top... are they useless to u? because u can trown a granade inside?
andreher 3 years ago
omg... jetz versuchen sie auch noch die amerikanischen panzerleute als bessere und erfolgreichere panzerleute darzustellen???!!!
eure panzer waren unterlegen genau so wie die jeweiligen mannschaften! die deutschen waren wie immer im soldatischen und technischen überlegen aber leider nicht in der anzahl!
Feierprinz86 3 years ago
Not too impressed actually.
Could stop that tank by sticking a couple of potatos in the exhausts sticking out the back
USArCOWARDS 3 years ago
Well, one could say that about ANY tank! They all have exhaust outlets, Einstein.
thegoosebrain 3 years ago
Try looking for them on other tanks.
You wont find them as easy.
USArCOWARDS 3 years ago
lol tanks had infantry support, specially important tanks as the panther, if u get the range to put a potatos in the exhausts, it would probablly be an already abandoned tank
andreher 3 years ago
yeah thats the way.
Get your infantry wiped out and then abandon the tank.
Brithjt ideas froma guy living in a country which is destroying the rainforest and not growing food because they can make more money from growing bio fuels.
Great plan brain box.
USArCOWARDS 3 years ago
lol dude, u dont know nothing about war then. war is not a game that u walk with a few infantry or a damn movie... they had thousends and thousends of infantry support... if they all die, is because the position is being badly overrun, and the tank would die anyway... and wtf changing the focus to my contry lol
andreher 3 years ago
Know nothing about war!
LMAO!
My country created the worlds largest ever empire and won 2 world wars.
Infantry are easily machine gunned down.
And once thats happened. Youve said youd run away from the tank.
Good for you.
How did Uk armour suck?
I believe the british were the 1st to destroy the world famous tiger tank in WW2.
So more to the point i'm not angery youre just thick.
USArCOWARDS 3 years ago
Well British tanks did suck!! And US tanks as well.
Your country won 2 world wars?? I don`t tink so. You helped a little. Or did England beat the Germans twice on it`s own??!!
rb39gf 2 years ago
Eh?
The Centurion is a British tank.
And it makes USA shot its pants like a country fo cowards every day because Iran has them.
So blah blah blah.
Lasdt i checked USa begged for nukes from the British empire to save you cowards.
If it hadnt Korea and Veitnam and cuba wouldnt of wiped the USa military out
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
This comment was proudly sponsored by Kim Il Sung of The People Republic of North Korea and all the little nutjobs contained inside it borders.
steveros1973 2 years ago
LOL.
Theres nothing wrong with being North Korea dude.
You'll find everytime they know a yanks talking to them they grin uncontrollably.
You may even have the sudden urge to punch them out.
They have that because they know they exterminated the entire USA military in total war.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
Now we know that Nth Korea is one of the biggest illicit drug exporters in the world, so its obvious that you are sticking needles in yourself and snorting little white lines of snow.
May i ask which war you are referring too that quotes "exterminated the entire USA military"??? Nth Korea wouldn't last a day. So Kim Jong illl lover, go get your portrait of him, pull down your pants, flop out incredibley small asian penis and starting tugging over it, thats about the merit of your comments
steveros1973 2 years ago
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Eh?
Im refering the the wars USA claim to of won?
None of which have ever fought and destroyed flogger of foxhound jets.
You claim North Korea wouldnt last a day yet USA has been exterminated in Iraq and is pulling out next year proving a great bog fat loss on the record.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
And which wars are those my friend? Yeah, Floggers and Foxhounds are half decent relics from the cold war, yep, you're quoting state of the art there.
USA has been exterminated in Iraq have they. Either your English is pure shit, or you have shit for brains, so if they have been exterminated then how are they pulling out? Either they're dead or they're not. Which is it you drug fucked, needle jabbing, small dicked asian?
ALL HAIL KIM JONG ILL, the nutjob and his mate here on YOUTUBE
steveros1973 2 years ago
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Floggers,Foxhounds are as recent as USa's F14 retired in about 2005ish
You claim foxhounds,floggers as nothing yet USAs failed to shoot one down
Foxhounds newer than USAs F15
USAs been exterminated in Iraq
1, more bombings of civillians happened in March this year than any other year since the war begun
Proviong USa has been exterminated and will be expelled.
Youre the nut job dude.
USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
So, if you are in Iraq, Al-Queda flies Floggers and Foxhounds do they? So, how would they get the chance to engage them? They're not fighting the local populace, and combat in iraq is starting to subside.
Bombings of civilians, well thats usually done by carbomb, not aerial bombs, so you've fucked up there.
Look, you're scared shittless that the Coalition will invade Nth Korea, and we understand that;....but do yourself a favour and stay off the drugs
steveros1973 2 years ago
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USArCOWARDS 2 years ago
and all of this started because u had the einstein idea to put granades in tanks backs... but im pretty sure u would shit ur pants just when u hear his engine.. and would run to ur life, not run to its back and install a grande lol.. its not a video game... but i understand ur angry... u from UK, lol... UK armor sucked in late war so bad, they didnt even count
andreher 3 years ago
great tank the krauts did build some great tanks a pity most of them could nt have been mass produced at the time like the shermans or t 34's.well its a pity if your a nazi
nash3timemvp 3 years ago
impressive looking tank.. You've got to hand it to the germans during ww2. They made some great tanks
robitsme 3 years ago
this video was good
im on cam and bored n1
8830609 3 years ago
lol !
Very nice that panther !
nicogamer59 3 years ago
sexy...
NitroMike87 3 years ago 5
who painted this magnificent beast great job in its restoration but the paint needs improving
rolficus 3 years ago
Nice clip...too bad the russians got hold of this marwel...They should live in holes in the ground or better yet nowhere at all...Too bad Germany lost the war before they distroyed Russia.The world would have been a better place alltogether.Russians apart feew exceptions are nothing more than mere peasants with the use of heavy drinking lack of most basic manners,rape and theft.From Romania
Comraider303 3 years ago
awesome *****stars
petrwarry 3 years ago
why didnt they fire the gun at an old skoda or a lada or something exciting like crashing it through the nearest mosque ?
mardycustard 3 years ago
or run some winging pommy bastard over before he comes over here for a holiday lookin like a bloody lobster lol
rolficus 3 years ago
id rather visit a malaria infested swamp than australia ,sorry it is one..
mardycustard 3 years ago 2
lol jokes mate
rolficus 3 years ago
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We have destroyed those nazi monsters in Battle at Kursk in 1943 fucking well !!!
UUUURRRAAAAAAA !!!
MultipleEFP 3 years ago
German Kursk :
180,000 dead, wounded, or captured
1,600 tanks
1,000 aircraft ,
Soviet Kursk :
863,303 all causes
6,064 tanks
,1,100-1,200 aircraft (Soviet records incomplete)
yep you destroyed the nazi monster well??!!
vanbuytenerik 3 years ago