2009 WCG Grand Final Third day: StarCraft match: White-Ra vs IdrA

[faanosoccerr]

back when starcraft MEANT starcraft 1

[RaterisimoCBA]

Great game but ... White - Ra should have changed his whole strategy to going AIR (scouts or carriers) when he had money ... Idra had a few turrets and 2 or 3 goliaths to counter air ...

[Wetily]

@SLLStarCraft2 Explains your name

[Wetily]

@soulbad24 Did you just say sc2 had shit graphics? Then what about this game, retard -.-

[chadraycrochet]

Actually WC2 changed everything.. Starcraft was the changer for korea, BW was the expand. SC2 is awsome. They are all awsome

[hemptime123]

this is so much better then a shitty sc2 game ..

[popeye2mil]

why he didn't warp gate :P?

[Kerghun]

I can't understand the hate that BW gets from SC2 players, this is the game that changed everything. BW is the father of competitive RTS of all time, SC2 is an amazing game but I grew up on BW for 11 years and I loved it.

[azngoku666]

@Kerghun well I play SC2 and I'm watching this right now because it's probably more interesting (and still has handsome nerds) so never fear!

[RaterisimoCBA]

@Kerghun You´re totally right ... Broodwar was some piece of art right there ! GREAT GREAT game , and it still is !

[jimmythemagicdolphin]

Seriously? why the fuck is the music so loud, the casters are screaming sometimes

[kromo770]

Man, fucking sc2 players leaving really stupid comments.

[xxqcwaslukxx]

@kromo770

?

[arsenalfanshukri]

omg! white ra vs Idra in the old days~

[HeadieNugz]

starcraft is a joke...shit graphics and tank spam....thank god for sc2

[SLLStarCraft2]

i like starcraft 1 better than starcraft 2

[RockyH2]

@SLLStarCraft2

Me too. I like Starcraft 2 but I've recently started playing Starcraft 1 again and it has a kind of atmosphere I just miss from SC2. I prefer the Zerg from the first game as well.

[fehler91]

i would really love to see some korean players play a "fastest possible" map...i mean they could f*** up the whole game in a few seconds xD

[KittyStarcraft]

wow its incredible how much they have changed in 2 years ! haha :)

[diepthanhthe]

dang i thought white ra woulda win but Idra is amazing lol

[VOZZIFY]

@diepthanhthe thanks for the spoiler you fuck.

[diepthanhthe]

@VOZZIFY i am soooo sorry but i had to commented >.< it was a mazing =.= yeah but it's still my fault sorry =.=

[joesaddles]

Idra started playing a long time after I did but from everything ive read he was/is probably the best usa player

back when i played it was rekrul/froz as the top usa players, I remember one time going 5-2 vs FroZ and another time beating rekrul 2-1 =)

[joesaddles]

lol white-ra the great Ukrainian hope!!

SaddleS here... my overall record vs White-Ra was around 12-8, used to play him a lot on wgtour and won more than I lost (by a little, he was pretty decent)

[MrHav1k]

Protoss had to stay 20 supply ahead of Terran and stay up an expo on Terran?

SC1 Protoss sounds a hell of a lot like SC2 Zerg.

[ppshchik]

@MrHav1k No, because SC1 TvP is meched base and Protoss needs to be bases ahead of MECH Terran since Mech units are a lot more cost efficient but a lot slower. Protoss can stay on equal bases with bio Terran in SC2.

[MrHav1k]

So in BW Terran was Underpowered?

AHAAHHHAAHHAHHAAHAAAHHAAHHAHA!

[Ziddletwix]

"Geek chills" oh how the times have changed

[twinscythe]

"Terran is completely overpowered and broken, and only retards play them.... Except when I was using it in WCG"

[kruxtrux915]

@twinscythe We're talking about 2 different games here buddy.

[twinscythe]

@kruxtrux915 didn't change in Korea. Most koreans picked Terran in SC1, and they still picks Terran in SC2

[bodygard11]

@twinscythe ur pretty dumb

[scubasteve42009]

@twinscythe comparing bw to sc2 is like comparing the nes to the wii gtfo u know nothing about starcraft

[hemptime123]

@twinscythe it was BW, and they were always weak.

[danielkaspa]

@hemptime123 Twinscythe just pointed Idra contradiction , of raging against terrans and then going to pick them at WCG. The quotations marks serve a purpose, you know?

[hemptime123]

@danielkaspa he raged terrans in sc2.. because there imbalanced.. also.. thats because they are..

terran players are now zerg in sc2.. hardest race to play and a macro race and reactionary (but for the most part you just made tanks, but if you made 2 many tanks you just got bum rushed and eventually got stomped) hmm, huu , trr , hmm.. by the way.. you really are a stupid arse, aren't you. pretty boy <33333

[danielkaspa]

@hemptime123 You seriously lack reading compreehension, getting 2 comments wrong in a row, getting to a school is not bad you now. Not recognizing sarcasm and now not understanding my explanation makes me think you are brain damaged. No intended offense in that though.

[hemptime123]

@danielkaspa i dont undhestnag what syour styring to tell me...

stupid ass.. read my comment lol

[elidcarter]

360p, we meet again



[hytonightful]

i wonder if either of these guys still play bw for some good memories

[an032nv]

he's so scrappy scooby doo would be proud....facepalm

[Tommy12GaugeS1000RR]

played starcraft 1 briefly as a kid now playing starcraft 2 all the time and the graphics on this game are shocking! they were good when the game was released but for a major tornament only 2 years ago, goes to show just how good the gameplay was and continues to be in sc2

[muffinboy101010]

i never knew starcraft was so big.

[Vixn95]

MY GOD IDRA GGED!!!

[Zarzeczanin]

Idra, i hope you will good in next tournaments, like you was in 2009 ;)

[aSurlySquirrel]

Best part is: 25:40-25:45!

[TheToastyToastt]

"as far as non koreans go" - camera zooms in on koreans

[Superpippo121]

Grandpa toss vs King of Rage

[joeyjoey9191]

25:25 sheldon?

[ScreggaeaficionBw]

Mierda WHITE RA podria haber ganado, tal vez penso que con los primeros ataques bastaria para no dejar que Idra se expandiera.

[Goregasm913]

Turn your fucking game sounds down lolol annoying.

[NOC137]

whitera + idra + tastosis + BW = *fapfapfapfapfapfapfap*

[Mrblackmystery]

Is that Seth Rogen? O.O

[Undesignatable]

Idra looks like Harry Potter.

[srong]

@Undesignatable IDRA IS HARRY POTTER!

[DirectRearInsertion]

Good to watch a little sc1 ^____^

[16SKB]

idra has kid of a serial killer vibe, doesn't he?

[teacafee]

boring

[Alexon88]

@teacafee like home cup tv for me. don't watch this then -.-"" kiiidd

[TheeDelibird13]

okay i keep wondering what channel or website does this show comes on and when does it do so

[Alexon88]

@TheeDelibird13 just turn on your TV and the sports-canal. ?? or your TV-magazine..

[TheeDelibird13]

@Alexon88 tv magaziine you say?

[NaziSRB]

match starts at 06:09

[GfireStarcraft]

@NaziSRB And skip Tastosis? Yeah right.

[JuglarEuskaldun]

Idra's skin i so white... and shiny... xDD I almost get blind at 2:44

[Murgon]

Idra is definately a virgin. Cool guy though, a little hot headed at times but a good player none the less.

[SheepFreak2]

i wanted to bitch about 360p, but did sc1 itself have better graphics anyway? ^^

[USArmyEllis]

Why didn't he just get carriers? I'm no pro but..... ya know

[GSMOUSA]

@USArmyEllis his tactic was good, initially, mass dragoons were really good in holding Idra in his areas and preventing him from expanding, but he should have realized that with time, Siege tank are going to be upgraded and therefore will form an unpenetrable defense line that can only be broken with carriers/Archons/Reavers, but he insisted to proceed with the same strategy, Mass Dragoons. which Idra was successful in driving back, and that's why he lost

eventually,

[Kylan0728]

I remember when this game's graphics were considered good =p

[TheFlyingSkarmory]

@Kylan0728 They still are.

[NewYawkCityFTW]

at the end Idra typed this- "fuck ye mother russia mah ass nig"

[Nemoranth]

idra has a spam strategy,only this thing help him to win

[TheAznPwns]

LOL didnt idra hate terran? why is he playing it

[ClifftonBeach]

@TheAznPwns he played Terran in BW. He switched to Zerg for SC2 because he felt it better fit his Macro style. He hates them in SC2, which is not the same as hating them in BW

[Bany1911]

@TheAznPwns SC1 was alot more balanced and who cares what he played then.

[hemptime123]

@TheAznPwns you are fucking stupid., go back to sc2

[ps3live47]

@1Gunery cause terran player dont have self respect

[sc2toast]

artosis and tasteless. Good stuff. :D

[TheVaultingFig]

two years old and fucking awesome.

[thuaphong2704]

I think if Idra didn't switch to sc2 he will be the stronger non korea player in the world

[Keep701]

Because hes a heavy macro player and good macro favors Zerg more than Protoss or Terran.

[samwise401]

Only in this, would a guy like white-ra be told he was really cool

[windwakerlover555666]

ㅗㅡㅡㅡㅡ ㅑ 재ㅜㅇㄷㄱ 좨 ㅈ디ㅣ 쟈ㅜ ㅑㅇㄲㅁ!

[erlanfranck]

why doesn't anyone uses nukes or ghost's lock ? wouldn't be easier to stop carriers for example?

[skullhoof]

WM vs BM

[kvartalman]

Super!



[MrKarlthellama]

its idra, not Idra

[prelynmax]

Sings: I'm proud to be an American...

[Tony007corp]

I dont get it why is that guy depending on Idra to win to move on?

[ppshchik]

@Tony007corp White-Ra was 5-1 (losing his only game to Advokate) and Advokate was 5-2 at that moment. If White-Ra lost to IdrA he'll get 5-2 which ties with Advokate. If there are only 2 players with the same score then the one who wins between their encounter (which Advokate won) moves on. If 3 players have the same score then it'll have a tie-breaker.

[ajl431091]

How do you become eligible for this?

[porscheGT200]

@iscrewy : :D LOL

[windwakerlover555666]

@iscrewy They have 10- OVER 9,000 ORGASMS!!!!!

[GSMOUSA]

@iscrewy and once the game is over, someone may propose to his girl friend on the Game Statistics Page :)

[JuglarEuskaldun]

btw against tanks didn't WhiteRa have to make corsairs? It would forced Idra to invest more in goliaths or even wraiths and less in tanks, resulting positive to WhiteRa dragoons. Does anyone agree?

[iscrewy]

@JuglarEuskaldun

Why did you have to reply to me?

[JuglarEuskaldun]

@iscrewy did I? LoL sorry, mea culpa xD

[loledatyou123]

@iscrewy how was that comment funny?

[iscrewy]

@loledatyou123

Exactly what I thought!

[TheeDelibird13]

@iscrewy id love that they might have something like that in the states but its not as excepted out here as it is out there

[iscrewy]

@TheeDelibird13

And they're still skinnier!

[Bobblefighter]

There were no complaints about Terran being OP in BW. Everything was balanced so perfectly. It was a thing of magic.

[antasaur]

funny how idra used to play terran....................now he hates it. but in SC2 its for some of the stuff terran pulls.

[robertekken]

donde esta  la estrastegia

[robertekken]

se olvido de los templarios falta mas estrategia como descarga o usar river

[robertekken]

se olvido de los templarios

[kimbosterdelgado]

estan bien pendejos ni saben jugar starcraft como debe de ser sacan ejercito a lo bestia solamente no vi nada de estrategia

[Blackmamba851]

@biggetjekmor the game came out in 1998

[biggetjeknor]

09? really, this is 2009!? looks like freakin NES to me!!! How fast did we get graphicly spoiled?

[uphunk114]

@biggetjeknor They spent 12 years on the same game....so yeah, of course the new one's going to kick ass :P

[Zashiel0]

noob protoss

[Bennow666]

Idra looks like duddits from dream catcher

[gabriolix2]

UUUUUHHH

UNO PEOR KE EL OTRO

NO SÉ QUIEN TIENE MAS CARA DE NERD

[Pinochi0]

Rumours were IdrA did the reverse on Michael Jackson, his therapy was playing Starcraft, proof above.

[MrSouptits]

IdrA is a handsome nerd

[GauntV]

did that chick in the red at 7:06 just give me the finger?

[heyheyolek]

game starts at 0:00

[MyMindIsMyWill]

Why didn't the protoss just make carriers???

[xRequiem90x]

@MyMindIsMyWill lol

[daydayhyphy]

@MyMindIsMyWill not worth it. 

[Cinematico0101]

My god, how ugly both are !

[Madsa101]

Everything in this video exept White-ra makes it look like it was filmed 12 years ago

[hazzahdk]

tasteless & artosis !

[gosciu555]

I believe their called nerd chills but sd. 

[geegeewp]

Game doesn't start at 6:10

[lamegliogioventu]

i wonder if they know the map beforehand at this stage of the tournament... or if its random

[BrewedalTea]

i like the statment "heavy weights that are non-koreans" its sorta like koreans are to starcraft as africans are to basketball, no racism ment,

[Assault912]

Isnt Protoss like hte most overpower race in SC1?

[ZeraEntertainment]

@Assault912

of course it isn't. BW is the most balanced game ever

[abcz98]

@Assault912 Protoss pros don't even hold the top 4 in the world. 3 terran and a zerg

[Keep701]

Easily.

[ppshchik]

@jayworth503 Terran > Zerg. Zerg > Protoss. Protoss > Terran in SC1

[hms117]

@ppshchik

No no no no no, thats not how it works, all the races are EQUAL. Thats the entire point. Its not like rock paper scissors.

[jayworth503]

@ppshchik what does this have to do with my comment about Idra's virginity?

[heyheyolek]

@jayworth503 idra get lots of korean chicks.

[jayworth503]

@heyheyolek doubt it.

[doom3x]

@jayworth503 ROFLLLL

[ysama]

@jayworth503 Because you're gay?

[jayworth503]

@ysama no u faggsheit.

[grimzreapersunage]

@jayworth503 I reken he may have seen some Korean pussy ;)

[engladtur]

@jayworth503 mature...

[turtles12]

@engladtur

fag

[roverman540]

@jayworth503 in korea he will

[ricur552]

@jayworth503

thats prodably why he moved to korea.

"Starcraft=ladiesmen" in korea

[theSammichHero]

@jayworth503 u on crack bro idra gets all the pussy ;)

[2MetallicA2]

@jayworth503 internet..

[eisesmit]

@jayworth503 You underestimate the powers of google :P

[AznBoi0wnz]

@jayworth503 Wrong, He'll See the "Forest before the Cave" Korean Girls.

[Bany1911]

@jayworth503 Who needs vag when you can pull 100k a year playing a video game.

[jayworth503]

@Bany1911 you would pay 100k to forever be a virgin? good to know.

[eldpm]

@jayworth503 Since he s on YOutube - he probably would b able to ) Whores love those celebs ))

[GSMOUSA]

@jayworth503 He saw one, the one which he came out from xD

[KindOfMaroon]

@jayworth503 He saw one when he was born

[alahad]

I haven't seen any specially good match of idra so far, lets hope this one is...

[zirius89]

9:39 Dimaga chilling. :D

[Seareen]

Idra ftw

[FrightendFox]

Idra looks like such a faggot. Which matches his personality.

[Strahoz]

starcraft 1 is 10 times harder to play than starcraft 2

[jonahbill14]

@Strahoz Why is that a good thing?

[TheeDelibird13]

@Strahoz i see why though i mean i would love to use vultures in online matches lol there so useful

[Zeriver]

I love when he says "GiGi".

[DeusExKiran]

"im wigglin and jigglin and wigglin all around"

[bcgabriot]

@MrDustock idra IS a pro not trying :D There was no other american as far as I know, you may be thinking of Ret but he's not american.