thanks' god there's internet that let me find and see this! I was 15 (now 53) when I first listen to "rock"...I played piano classical scores and it was "pictures at an ex"...I fall in love with him and those keyboards! They are only three but they play for 300!
"This chord here..I think it's B", "B what?", "You may well ask..!". Ha! Fascinating post - it's wonderful to see a glimpse of the painstaking work they undertook to create that seemingly effortless, fluid madness. Great stuff!
This is great . Their barely of drinking age and Greg Lake looks like he still in high school. Most likely fresh out of high school.LOL ;).. But then Schools in Britain ect are far more advance than America Dumb Down ed system.. GREAT POST
I know there was talk of Hendrix playing with them, but honestly - it would have been totally different. Hendrix was great at what he did, but there is no way in hell he could have ever played or even kept up in something like ANY of the Karn Evil 9 stuff. They would have had to have adapted to his bluesy/funky style, because he was a trillion miles from being anywhere near classical compositions.
@RanRanRuTubed Hey man - I loved Hendrix, but it's apples & oranges. Can you see Hendrix even fitting in on something like Karn Evil 9 2nd Impression? Nope. He just wasn't there. Not only that, I just don't think Hendrix would have given a rat's ass about that style. He was simply too bluesy.
I'd never heard Keith or Carl talk before - not even at the one concert of theirs I saw. I think it's a shame they didn't sing, because they both sound like natural high tenors. What a lovely compliment that would have made to Greg's huge and sometimes haunting baritone. I know, they were all about instrumental music, but what a shame Keith & Carl didn't sing more! (I admit, I'm not very familiar with their catalog, but Greg was the only one with a mic on him when I saw them live.)
YouTube is like the Sorcerer's Stone in that Harry Potter book/movie. You can get trapped forever in what you loved in the past and want to keeping looking at.
@rmtmiller Totally, but I think you mean the Mirror of Erised. That's where I'm stuck. Post 70s music just doesn't cut it! (Ok, I'll go as far as 1981, but that's IT!)
If Hendrix took HIS moog modular and added it to Keith's the world might have spun faster, froze in time or maybe the listener's brains may have imploded from the sheer magnitude.
Listening to this without the lyrics, I can hear more than ever how much of a story the music itself tells. It could be an outstanding soundtrack for a short feature. Even with two instruments (and drums), it's amazingly orchestral and grand.
What I love about this inside look is how Lake and Palmer are intent upon serving what is essentially an Emerson composition, trying their best to complement its essence, not show off their own chops, which are substantial. That coherence is what makes a supergroup like ELP work in ways that others don't.
@annikee59 yeah, but heck this isn't just any old prog rock though- it's a fusion of rock, electronica, jazz, and classical that's blended PERFECTLY so that no element is over-exaggerated. but yes agreed- ELP will never even come close to being remotely paralleled by any group that could ever be- past or future.
I always like his playing at this point in time which was around the time I started playing bass. I had no reason to learn his stuff and went the way of Geddy Lee as it was more along the order of rock and roll. Something I point out to a lot of people in these days is bassists used to play through Marshall, HiWatt, Orange, Fender and other brands of guitar amps. Two full stacks = 200w thru 16 12s.
Sure, it wasn't the same as the stuff used today but listen to those recordings.
Rare days here. This is pure art-music., free form compositional style with classical underpinnings. Practically zero people could ever pull this off. Keith Emerson was the brains behinds this trio, they essentially followed his cue and went to mars musically. Incredible discipline and skill. Not always a melodically pleasing product, but astounding musicianship.
@MarquisEstelle I always saw those non-melodically pleasing parts as a strength of the band. One of my favourite ELP songs is Toccata. And that sure aint melodically pleasing XD.
Wouldn't it be something if all groups had this level of knowledge and musicianship? Maybe today's music wouldn't suck so much!!
I saw ELP perform BSS in January 1974 in San Francisco. I was up close to the speakers, left side of stage. It was so effin loud, I chewed up a dollar bill and stuffed it into my ears. BTW, the concert was billed as being in Quadrophonic Sound, and there were a two banks of speakers up in the balconies, kinda like the surround sound of today.
@sselt I saw ELP on the Works II tour in 1978. I was standing right next to the speakers when they played Fanfare for the Common Man. It was blisteringly loud. I think my ears are still ringing because of that concert. That has to be the loudest show I've ever been to.
@Audioholics It holds up today perfectly well. Good music sounds good regardless of age. Part of the problem with mainstream music today is that it's always about being fashionable and as modern as possible instead of just being good music.
Also, Jimi Hendrix was going to join ELP but died before he got the chance.
I think it holds up fine without a guitarist - it also depends on if you are a fan of classic music. Hendrix would have lasted a week in this band because it was not in his scope of playing. Petrucci or Uli Roth can pull this stuff off on the guitar and have recorded it. There are others but those two were first in mind. Hendrix was more of a jam orientated guitarist and never played his tunes as they were recorded in a studio.
He played for a different purpose. He's in my top 10.
These guys were my first concert in 1972, I sneaked out of the house to see the concert. When I came home, I was grounded for a month. Was it worth it? HELL, YES!
Why can't music today be like this? Being 15 and an avid prog fan (I play drums), I kinda feel the same as one other commenter said of his son, I too feel as though I "missed out" on all this great music. I mean there are kids my age who like the modern pop and rap music of today, and thats fine if they like it, and everyone has their own tastes in music, I'm not saying mine is greater than another, but my tastes are in the good old days of Prog and Classic Rock :)
Yeah buddy....the days are fading, it seems, but I am noticing a renewed interest with the current generation of teens who are listening to and recognizing the super talents that ruled the 70's in the Prog rock scene. My teen son , who plays a mean bass himself, can't deny that he "missed out" on the best! I have seen Yes so many times as well as Genesis Gentle Giant Focus ELP Kansas Rush on and on. ELP show when Carl fell off drum riser, jumped back up finished the show but broke ribs. later
Racer500 - Right you are!! Especially Gentle Giant....who I was lucky to see live a couple times in the 70's in Chicago. Geddy Lee is definately better on bass guitar than Greg Lake though...Neil Peart is just an off shoot of Carl Palmer probably grew up listening to him. But still my favorite group ever is Yes and anyone who has not listened to all of their music is missing out dearly...
@bfwdrake I too saw ALL the greats many times in the early '70;s, including Genesis with peter Gabriel three times. I do love Rush and always will, but Rush themselves worshiped Yes and Genesis and they admit as much. All three are fantastic musicians and that includes Alex Lifeson, but they will never have the depth of Yes. Just listen to Gates of Delirium (I saw the Relayer tour at the Hollywood Bowl in 1975) or Close to the Edge. That was true Progressive genius and remains untouchable 4 ever
I would have to say this was their best album...but ultimately it was this type of...well...pretentiousness that was fertile breeding ground for the punk movement in 1976. Still love ELP though...and the Sex Pistols...I guess there should be something wrong with that but I don't care.
@BODYSLAMwrestling Dude, it's OK. they are both great. ELP and the Pistols. That was the beauty of the time. I love both prog and punk. Now hip hop, that's another story.
@BODYSLAMwrestling Well put, BODYSLAM, good perspective. I *loved* ELP when I was a young teenager, but even I began to understand their grand pretentiousness. (It is certainly no secret, though a lot of people who visit this site seem to not see the forest for the trees.) But there's nothing wrong with admiring their great musicianship.
I made my own video to this awesome song. Currently available on YouTube. (But you never know about WMG). watch?v=C_zo0FiNheI. I record the audio from a vinyl record then film my turntable in random places. I did this one on a really cool LED board (previously used by The Who). I think it's pretty cool and of course, ELP rules! Check it out.
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"I AM ALL THERE IS!" -- ELP's motto; they truly believed (and probably still believe) that about themselves. ("Show that never ends"--indeed!) Fortunately, the Ramones, Pistols and Clash came along in the later '70s and put this pretentious crap where it belongs--in the toilet. I really don't mean any offense to anyone. I just feel compelled to spout in the midst of all the silly ELP worship in these comments. They sorta make me want to throw up.
Charold you don´t understand nothing about music and music history. Would be interesting if you had saw recent meeting between Keith and John Lydon. Or even read a good book about the seventies to realize how stupid and ridiculous is your opinion.
Precisely, islands, I "don't understand nothing about music," which must mean that I know something. I'm glad you and these other folks who post here like SOMETHING, even a washed up, gaudy outfit such as ELP. Most people don't care for anything at all. So more power to you. By the way--not that it matters--I know more about the seventies and music than you could ever even imagine, islands, but words are cheap!
Gee, good for you; you just blindly attacked the greatest band that ever lived, stroked some piece of crap grunge band's ego and managed to make yourself look stupider than dick cheyney; *sigh*, internet trolls sure can get annoying. :/ "I don't mean to offend anyone, but your favorite band sucks! Just cause my favorite bands are all horrible and need to die doesn't mean that I need a point" I dare you, or your crappy, old 30s hippie pop bands to play karnevil9! >:D hopefully, you'd die ;D
Listen, smarlamppost, you prick. If I say I don't mean to offend anyone, then I mean it. And why don't you take Carl Palmer's drum stick and see how far you can stick it up you ass! (Maybe you would't feel it at all.) Clash hippies? 30s? You've just undone yourself but you're too stupid to know it. ("stupider than Dick Cheyney"--I do like that, even if you spelled the asshole's name wrong.) Lay off the bong for a while.
You criticize me for spelling it "Cheyney", then spell my name "smarlamppost" XD nice. And how have I undone myself? I guess if I were a mummy, and I got my wrapping stuck on a twig... hmm... really, and don't know what to say (other than you're a moron and all that); I mean, that reply of yours didn't really do anything to help you; it did aid you in your mission to become the stupidest human alive, but that's it.
Well, have a nice life... in a garbage can. C'est La Vie!
Smarmylimppuss, Thank you. You have made me see the light; the great rhetorical power of your language has convinced me that I am, in fact, a "moron" and that you are a fucking genius! Never mind the fact that I was a fan of ELP almost 40 years ago, that I worshipped them, saw them live in the late 70s, then--silly me--dismissed them as arrogant twats when I reached maturity and began to deeply admire Bartok, Ginastera, Mussorgsky, & others that, I thought, ELP cheapened & ripped off. THANKS!
And you helped me see the light, CherryCherryBloodyMerryIwannaEatASeveredChicken, for saying something so rediculously uncomprehendable that not even a republican would say it; C'est La Vie!
charold3 Certainly you are entitled to your opinion. I took a path similar to yours-I saw the Nice (pre-ELP) and later listened to the original classical works. But it did not dim my appreciation for ELP and similar bands. They were just using a different vision. Both Ginastera (from the start) and Copland (who was a bit hesitant at first) liked ELP's versions of their pieces. Ginastera endorsed the ELP version. Cheapened...well, must a classic be played exactly the same way every time?
garygomesg, Have you heard Mussorgsky or Bartok? Nothing against Ginastera or Copland (they are ok), but M and B are just incredible, tho' B might take some time to get in to. As for my comments, I do stand behing them, but I'm mostly just having some immature fun ribbing you ELP fans. If I was a big fan, I'd ignore me. But I genuinely do think ELP were bad for music in general in the '70s, as bad as most rap, boy bands, or "new country" are today. I was a fan but outgrew them years ago.
Of course I have heard Bartok and Mussorgsky! Jeez! I owned all of Bartok's string quartets, his piano concertos, Concerto for Orchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta and have definitely heard the piano version of Pictures. I don't agree with your assessment of ELP--they used electronic instruments and tight arrangements, but are by no means as bad as what you cite--and a damned bit better than all the stupid punk and roots rock of the era.
Chill, garygomesg, I was just asking! I much prefer the piano version of Pictures, don't you? All the Bartok you list--esp. those SQs--is very great stuff. I see why ELP would want to rip it off!
Bartok was one of the greatest composers ever, I think. (Messiaen's my personal favorite!) But there are lots of great ones out there that just aren't heard. I like either the piano or orchestral (Ravel) version of "Pictures". An English composer whose name escapes me did an orchestration of Pictures as well. One little progressive music sidelight--Kerry Minnear from Gentle Giant was a student of Sir Michael Tippett's, one of the great mid-20th century English serious composers.
I just have a soft spot for Keith Emerson... I think he has been crapped on by so many people, people who don't have one tenth the talent the man has, that I get a bit defensive. I think what bothered me was the implied assumption (I could be wrong) was that if you knew the "real" thing, you wouldn't like ELP. Well, I do and I do! Music, much as one may hate to admit it, is about taste and preference. There is no absolute standard. Bothers me about the people I don't like, but it's true. Best,G
@charold3, your statement that you "outgrew ELP years ago" indicates to me that what attracted you to their music back then (when you apparently liked them) had little to do with the actual music. You should give it another try, you might find that the music really is great after all. The reward is waiting there for you ...
i think you should come to peace wit them and enter dept.`musical understanding`/ version. 1.3.
ELP did not -cheapen- the legendary, they simply played and interpreted them.
and that was surely much more to their taste than art-historians and afterborn knowitalls who put them on a throne and worship their untouchable genius!
I know it's a bit late to reply to this but I can't help it.
So, IF English is yer native tongue and since you're quite obviously an adult you should have noticed that in KarnEvil9 Pete Sinfield was not referring to ELP, when he wrote I AM ALL THERE IS, but to an omnipotent cum-pee-uta 4 fx sake! As for the Ramones, the Pistols and the Clash, they were nothing more than chronic servants of the system; incompetent jesters who sold cheap revolution to the masses on behalf of the music industry.
now im tryin hard to decide between Keith Emerson and Ray Manzerek of The Doors when it comes to skills at playing the keyboard. though i really love The Doors, im kinda leaning towards Emerson.
Very conscientious players. Back in the day with my early bands, I would try to explain a musical passage or an idea, the drummer would automatically start clamoring away with his rudiments, or the bass player would fumble about with a funk riff.....argh!! These guys have.." it "
Tony, this is when I started listening to music....this is interesting cuz you see the rehearsal and the finished product in next one, and yes I DID go to that concert in1974.
I stand corrected - ironic, Bruford passed through KC, as did Greg Lake. I liked all these bands that tried to stretch rock to fit classical, jazz, folk, and later world, and all kinds of music.
And also this video is aviable on the DVD "EMERSON, LAKE AND PALMER BEYON THE BEGINING" Anthology 2004 of the biography, the discography and the story of this group from 1969 to 1997 !
That's very cool stuff. Thanks for posting it. I'm a drummer as well and always like to tighten my nuts between beats. One's sound suffers if one's nuts are loose - at least in certain cases.
search on the net for "Emerson, Lake and Palmer beyong the beginning" It has the whole cal jam set plus other live preformances and this is in the extras.
L & P are very clearly not happy with being instructed by the big "E" on how to play their parts...but, well, it worked...nobody likes being told what to do...by a coach, bandleader, parent
@emobangs03 As great as Rush is and always will be, their level of musicianship and songwriting can never even come close to the complexity of ELP. BTW, I don't know about the guy your talking to, but I saw the Hemispheres tour. If you put that album next to Tarkus, you'll know what I'm talking about. I've always said that Rush was a great band who tried to be Yes , but failed, and in failing created a more accessible type of Prog, but nothing that can touch ELP, Yes or especially Gentle Giant.
@racer500gp ehh...i would say by terms of musical complexity theyre about the same. in terms of musical theory they both have it down. i definitely had my elp phase but now im in my rush phase simply because they've made about 50 more albums than elp
Back in the early 70s I was at school and a big, big ELP fan. I still remember the excitement at picking up my reserved copy of Brain Salad Surgery, waiting at the Bus stop proudly displaying it under my arm!
Remember the first time you heard 3rd Impression? I remember it vividly. When the computer/Keith said "DANGER!" "STRANGER!" I just about crapped myself.
They had a great chemistry with each other in the beginning, as you can see in this video. But you can also see that each individual has his own direction. God, I love the way Greg smiles when he's playing those awesome bass lines!!
The amount of respect they have for each other's ideas is incredible. Seems like when one of them suggests something about another person's part, they just do it, and it usually turns out well.
even back to his time in the T-Bones although it was a bit more jazzy. To the later part of the T-Bones just before Keith moved on to The Nice they moved on to more rocky material
I keep coming back to this video. It's like watching a 3 way train wreck. You have Keith and Carl barreling down there tracks aggressive and masculine and here comes Greg at full tilt so romantic and melodic. At the intersection you have a huge collision and you have ELP. Just an observation.
thanks' god there's internet that let me find and see this! I was 15 (now 53) when I first listen to "rock"...I played piano classical scores and it was "pictures at an ex"...I fall in love with him and those keyboards! They are only three but they play for 300!
Jedan58 1 month ago
"This chord here..I think it's B", "B what?", "You may well ask..!". Ha! Fascinating post - it's wonderful to see a glimpse of the painstaking work they undertook to create that seemingly effortless, fluid madness. Great stuff!
rejapgee 3 months ago in playlist More videos from PLANx
Keith's moping at the end, aww..
MitjaShi 3 months ago
This is great . Their barely of drinking age and Greg Lake looks like he still in high school. Most likely fresh out of high school.LOL ;).. But then Schools in Britain ect are far more advance than America Dumb Down ed system.. GREAT POST
banzaimotorcross 4 months ago
Hendrix was not going to join them. And good thing. Hendrix sort of ruined music in a way by making noisy fender work seem cool.
Just4YML 4 months ago
God damn, that organ.
corkskrewclubhouse93 4 months ago
@corkskrewclubhouse93 Yeah! Keith is Godlike as the rest of that amazing guys called ELP!
NaraelNico 4 months ago in playlist Emerson, Lake & Palmer
I know there was talk of Hendrix playing with them, but honestly - it would have been totally different. Hendrix was great at what he did, but there is no way in hell he could have ever played or even kept up in something like ANY of the Karn Evil 9 stuff. They would have had to have adapted to his bluesy/funky style, because he was a trillion miles from being anywhere near classical compositions.
CashWatkins 6 months ago
@CashWatkins Apparently you never heard any post-Experience Hendrix. Give Band of Gypsies a listen.
RanRanRuTubed 4 months ago
@RanRanRuTubed Hey man - I loved Hendrix, but it's apples & oranges. Can you see Hendrix even fitting in on something like Karn Evil 9 2nd Impression? Nope. He just wasn't there. Not only that, I just don't think Hendrix would have given a rat's ass about that style. He was simply too bluesy.
CashWatkins 4 months ago
2:05 Carl Palmer just brilliant.
wlines 7 months ago
Humm............ very good!
angelita1122 7 months ago
I'd never heard Keith or Carl talk before - not even at the one concert of theirs I saw. I think it's a shame they didn't sing, because they both sound like natural high tenors. What a lovely compliment that would have made to Greg's huge and sometimes haunting baritone. I know, they were all about instrumental music, but what a shame Keith & Carl didn't sing more! (I admit, I'm not very familiar with their catalog, but Greg was the only one with a mic on him when I saw them live.)
dcs002 8 months ago
YouTube is like the Sorcerer's Stone in that Harry Potter book/movie. You can get trapped forever in what you loved in the past and want to keeping looking at.
rmtmiller 8 months ago 2
@rmtmiller Totally, but I think you mean the Mirror of Erised. That's where I'm stuck. Post 70s music just doesn't cut it! (Ok, I'll go as far as 1981, but that's IT!)
dcs002 8 months ago
If Hendrix took HIS moog modular and added it to Keith's the world might have spun faster, froze in time or maybe the listener's brains may have imploded from the sheer magnitude.
TheSynthZone 9 months ago
i wonder how many 8-balls vanished off the tips of car keys that night...just kidding i like e.l.p
rweghg3 9 months ago
0:51 - 1:44
ClassicRockMan95 11 months ago 2
Wonderful.
HelderMendozaIV 11 months ago
I FINALLY FOUND some teenage Carl Palmer! Great Footage of him with Arthur Brown! It wasn't even labeled properly!
you tube. com / watch?v=3FmVM6rfTKk
TouchingYou 11 months ago
but the complete video? ^^
notnowjon 1 year ago
Ill look it up on the Piano ..haha amazing ! What a group eh ?
klnine 1 year ago
Keith Emerson is the fucking man! respect that!
badmind36 1 year ago
it seems they really enjoy playing
Akron162 1 year ago
Listening to this without the lyrics, I can hear more than ever how much of a story the music itself tells. It could be an outstanding soundtrack for a short feature. Even with two instruments (and drums), it's amazingly orchestral and grand.
artgoat 1 year ago
i had my doubts, but now i know taht emerson was the obious leader of this band
Akron162 1 year ago
@Akron162 yeah he is the virtuoso leader
Wayavas1337 1 year ago
Without ELP, there could have been no Spinal Tap.
wheatonna 1 year ago
@wheatonna, Spinal Tap is a parody of Heavy Metal bands, not prog rock bands. You should learn the difference between the two.
tempname1100 1 year ago
@tempname1100 I was listening to ELP and Yes in 1971. But hey thanks for the music lesson.
wheatonna 1 year ago
What I love about this inside look is how Lake and Palmer are intent upon serving what is essentially an Emerson composition, trying their best to complement its essence, not show off their own chops, which are substantial. That coherence is what makes a supergroup like ELP work in ways that others don't.
KennyOKemp 1 year ago
Palmer is a funny guy!
abducteddonut 1 year ago
Greg Lake was a founding member of King Crimson ***AND*** ELP.
Now that's impressive !!! It does look good in a Curriculum Vitae.
krome50 1 year ago
Wow. This is a super fantastic find. It belongs in a museum or something.
paulsak59 1 year ago
There are at least six geniuses in these three guys.
annikee59 1 year ago 2
@annikee59 6 for each one
Shwaggetyshfifty 1 year ago
does anyone know what musical genre you'd call this? whatever it is, geez. i'd kill to play bass like that.
Interst890 1 year ago
@Interst890 It's Progressive Rock. There are lots of websites. And new bands still coming up. But ELP is All, far as I'm concerned.
annikee59 1 year ago
@annikee59 yeah, but heck this isn't just any old prog rock though- it's a fusion of rock, electronica, jazz, and classical that's blended PERFECTLY so that no element is over-exaggerated. but yes agreed- ELP will never even come close to being remotely paralleled by any group that could ever be- past or future.
Interst890 1 year ago
Madonna Santa ... cuanto talento. Gracias por la música.
GusELP 1 year ago
fantastic footage! and let's not forget Lake's burning bass playing.
TheStatue1 1 year ago
@TheStatue1
I always like his playing at this point in time which was around the time I started playing bass. I had no reason to learn his stuff and went the way of Geddy Lee as it was more along the order of rock and roll. Something I point out to a lot of people in these days is bassists used to play through Marshall, HiWatt, Orange, Fender and other brands of guitar amps. Two full stacks = 200w thru 16 12s.
Sure, it wasn't the same as the stuff used today but listen to those recordings.
alwaysopen 11 months ago
3 guys -----just pure creative talent
jeffsdolphin 1 year ago
3 guys -----just pure talent
jeffsdolphin 1 year ago
super
javying 1 year ago
Elp was the best live performance I have ever seen. Saw them 3 times and every time I thought I was sitting in the studio with them.
bozboz777 1 year ago
i wish i was alive during the Prog Rock glory days of the late 60s to mid 70s all those bands especially this band and Carl Palmer are my heroes
kfsfkakf 1 year ago 2
ELP ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
thedreamisme 1 year ago
Rare days here. This is pure art-music., free form compositional style with classical underpinnings. Practically zero people could ever pull this off. Keith Emerson was the brains behinds this trio, they essentially followed his cue and went to mars musically. Incredible discipline and skill. Not always a melodically pleasing product, but astounding musicianship.
MarquisEstelle 1 year ago 12
@MarquisEstelle I always saw those non-melodically pleasing parts as a strength of the band. One of my favourite ELP songs is Toccata. And that sure aint melodically pleasing XD.
Lodashtaroth 7 months ago
Wouldn't it be something if all groups had this level of knowledge and musicianship? Maybe today's music wouldn't suck so much!!
I saw ELP perform BSS in January 1974 in San Francisco. I was up close to the speakers, left side of stage. It was so effin loud, I chewed up a dollar bill and stuffed it into my ears. BTW, the concert was billed as being in Quadrophonic Sound, and there were a two banks of speakers up in the balconies, kinda like the surround sound of today.
sselt 1 year ago 2
@sselt I saw ELP on the Works II tour in 1978. I was standing right next to the speakers when they played Fanfare for the Common Man. It was blisteringly loud. I think my ears are still ringing because of that concert. That has to be the loudest show I've ever been to.
SiberianMan2u 1 year ago
super humans! btw, keith needs more leslies on that back wall ; )
wilecuyote 1 year ago
super humans!
wilecuyote 1 year ago
I love this clip. Didn't realise how good looking Greg Lake was when he was young. Brill!
37misspiggy 1 year ago
@37misspiggy I agree...he makes the hair on my arms stand up:)
4doxiemom 1 year ago
this music makes me want to invade Poland.
jimbobklyn1963 1 year ago
carl is a robot !
klnine 1 year ago
Anyone know what they are doing at 4:04-4:12?
audiophile55 1 year ago
@audiophile55 Could be Gates of Kiev, but I'm not abso sure.
annikee59 1 year ago
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bozboz777 1 year ago
Isn't it amazing that Keith's voice sounds like another musical genious, Jimmy Page.... I guess that's how genious sounds ! :)
Rover775 1 year ago
if only ELP got a real guitarist and relied more on piano instead of gimmicky and dated keyboards, their music would still hold up today.
Audioholics 1 year ago
@Audioholics It holds up today perfectly well. Good music sounds good regardless of age. Part of the problem with mainstream music today is that it's always about being fashionable and as modern as possible instead of just being good music.
Also, Jimi Hendrix was going to join ELP but died before he got the chance.
2008ol 1 year ago 12
@2008ol
I think it holds up fine without a guitarist - it also depends on if you are a fan of classic music. Hendrix would have lasted a week in this band because it was not in his scope of playing. Petrucci or Uli Roth can pull this stuff off on the guitar and have recorded it. There are others but those two were first in mind. Hendrix was more of a jam orientated guitarist and never played his tunes as they were recorded in a studio.
He played for a different purpose. He's in my top 10.
alwaysopen 11 months ago
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rmtmiller 8 months ago
@2008ol Not join, they were going to jam to audition him, nothing was confirmed.
SRNF 7 months ago
@2008ol Wow, imagine what it would be like if they had the chance to record atleast one album with Hendrix :O
randomstofil 4 months ago
These guys were my first concert in 1972, I sneaked out of the house to see the concert. When I came home, I was grounded for a month. Was it worth it? HELL, YES!
katty2trips 1 year ago 2
Why can't music today be like this? Being 15 and an avid prog fan (I play drums), I kinda feel the same as one other commenter said of his son, I too feel as though I "missed out" on all this great music. I mean there are kids my age who like the modern pop and rap music of today, and thats fine if they like it, and everyone has their own tastes in music, I'm not saying mine is greater than another, but my tastes are in the good old days of Prog and Classic Rock :)
MYNAMETAYLA 1 year ago
@MYNAMETAYLA Try listening to some new bands like: Porcupine Tree, Opeth (non metal stuff), Riverside, and Blackfield. I think you will be pleased.
Audioholics 1 year ago
@MYNAMETAYLA Listen to some transatlantic or dream theater
FODskate 1 year ago
Yeah buddy....the days are fading, it seems, but I am noticing a renewed interest with the current generation of teens who are listening to and recognizing the super talents that ruled the 70's in the Prog rock scene. My teen son , who plays a mean bass himself, can't deny that he "missed out" on the best! I have seen Yes so many times as well as Genesis Gentle Giant Focus ELP Kansas Rush on and on. ELP show when Carl fell off drum riser, jumped back up finished the show but broke ribs. later
bfwdrake 1 year ago
@bfwdrake I always prefered ELP over the Yes. Never Cared for Jon Andersons voice.
scoobes11 1 year ago
@scoobes11 A tough choice, but Yes takes the cake after seeing them ina LA with a brain drowned in LSD.
skaterat121 1 year ago
Racer500 - Right you are!! Especially Gentle Giant....who I was lucky to see live a couple times in the 70's in Chicago. Geddy Lee is definately better on bass guitar than Greg Lake though...Neil Peart is just an off shoot of Carl Palmer probably grew up listening to him. But still my favorite group ever is Yes and anyone who has not listened to all of their music is missing out dearly...
bfwdrake 1 year ago
@bfwdrake I too saw ALL the greats many times in the early '70;s, including Genesis with peter Gabriel three times. I do love Rush and always will, but Rush themselves worshiped Yes and Genesis and they admit as much. All three are fantastic musicians and that includes Alex Lifeson, but they will never have the depth of Yes. Just listen to Gates of Delirium (I saw the Relayer tour at the Hollywood Bowl in 1975) or Close to the Edge. That was true Progressive genius and remains untouchable 4 ever
racer500gp 1 year ago
I LOVE this stuff! ELP friggin' RULES!
Tommyr 1 year ago
I was born in the wrong time period.....this where I should be. :P
CorvetteCoonass 1 year ago
The genious of E......L.....P
hubiex 1 year ago
Such casual brilliance!
"Oh yeah, we should make this diminished instead of major"
And so young!
Prodigies, all of them. They create an entire genre without even knowing what they wrought.
freedumb2003 1 year ago
3 fuckin' gods!
jenskurtstein 1 year ago
I think it's B
jaredeal210 1 year ago
greg lake taking a crafty snort at .19 secs
eunicefinger 1 year ago
Sin palabras... excelente
carycastro1 1 year ago
they look tired
Akron162 1 year ago
Great, great, great!!!
jcap35 1 year ago
I would have to say this was their best album...but ultimately it was this type of...well...pretentiousness that was fertile breeding ground for the punk movement in 1976. Still love ELP though...and the Sex Pistols...I guess there should be something wrong with that but I don't care.
BODYSLAMwrestling 1 year ago 2
@BODYSLAMwrestling Dude, it's OK. they are both great. ELP and the Pistols. That was the beauty of the time. I love both prog and punk. Now hip hop, that's another story.
rickfreslanta 1 year ago
@BODYSLAMwrestling Well put, BODYSLAM, good perspective. I *loved* ELP when I was a young teenager, but even I began to understand their grand pretentiousness. (It is certainly no secret, though a lot of people who visit this site seem to not see the forest for the trees.) But there's nothing wrong with admiring their great musicianship.
charold3 1 year ago
great old school stuff!! Rock stars rehearsing in a studio that is not even air-conditioned.
CribNotes 1 year ago
Masters!
alancambridge03 1 year ago
this is great stuff.... I could give a rats ass if Emerson likes his booze....the guys a fucking genius!!
0977luck 1 year ago
was keith a bit of a boozer. i don't think i've seen any footage where there isn't a bottle of some kind sitting atop his hammond
Putaspellonyou 1 year ago
Carl Palmer, hmm. Remove the "C" and insert and "E" in its place and you have a REAL drummer!
charold3 2 years ago
@charold3
yeees, never trust someone who is still alive!?
carl palmer, pfft, play that stuff in the morning with my left hand
MoveOverCasanova 1 year ago
Great video... 3 of the best.!!!
Check out all those Leslie Tone cabinets in the background... SWEEEET Studio.!
mrprogjazzgto 2 years ago
I made my own video to this awesome song. Currently available on YouTube. (But you never know about WMG). watch?v=C_zo0FiNheI. I record the audio from a vinyl record then film my turntable in random places. I did this one on a really cool LED board (previously used by The Who). I think it's pretty cool and of course, ELP rules! Check it out.
TheDailyVinyl 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
"I AM ALL THERE IS!" -- ELP's motto; they truly believed (and probably still believe) that about themselves. ("Show that never ends"--indeed!) Fortunately, the Ramones, Pistols and Clash came along in the later '70s and put this pretentious crap where it belongs--in the toilet. I really don't mean any offense to anyone. I just feel compelled to spout in the midst of all the silly ELP worship in these comments. They sorta make me want to throw up.
charold3 2 years ago
Charold you don´t understand nothing about music and music history. Would be interesting if you had saw recent meeting between Keith and John Lydon. Or even read a good book about the seventies to realize how stupid and ridiculous is your opinion.
islands32 2 years ago 2
Precisely, islands, I "don't understand nothing about music," which must mean that I know something. I'm glad you and these other folks who post here like SOMETHING, even a washed up, gaudy outfit such as ELP. Most people don't care for anything at all. So more power to you. By the way--not that it matters--I know more about the seventies and music than you could ever even imagine, islands, but words are cheap!
charold3 2 years ago
Gee, good for you; you just blindly attacked the greatest band that ever lived, stroked some piece of crap grunge band's ego and managed to make yourself look stupider than dick cheyney; *sigh*, internet trolls sure can get annoying. :/ "I don't mean to offend anyone, but your favorite band sucks! Just cause my favorite bands are all horrible and need to die doesn't mean that I need a point" I dare you, or your crappy, old 30s hippie pop bands to play karnevil9! >:D hopefully, you'd die ;D
smartlamppost 2 years ago 2
Listen, smarlamppost, you prick. If I say I don't mean to offend anyone, then I mean it. And why don't you take Carl Palmer's drum stick and see how far you can stick it up you ass! (Maybe you would't feel it at all.) Clash hippies? 30s? You've just undone yourself but you're too stupid to know it. ("stupider than Dick Cheyney"--I do like that, even if you spelled the asshole's name wrong.) Lay off the bong for a while.
charold3 2 years ago
You criticize me for spelling it "Cheyney", then spell my name "smarlamppost" XD nice. And how have I undone myself? I guess if I were a mummy, and I got my wrapping stuck on a twig... hmm... really, and don't know what to say (other than you're a moron and all that); I mean, that reply of yours didn't really do anything to help you; it did aid you in your mission to become the stupidest human alive, but that's it.
Well, have a nice life... in a garbage can. C'est La Vie!
smartlamppost 2 years ago
Smarmylimppuss, Thank you. You have made me see the light; the great rhetorical power of your language has convinced me that I am, in fact, a "moron" and that you are a fucking genius! Never mind the fact that I was a fan of ELP almost 40 years ago, that I worshipped them, saw them live in the late 70s, then--silly me--dismissed them as arrogant twats when I reached maturity and began to deeply admire Bartok, Ginastera, Mussorgsky, & others that, I thought, ELP cheapened & ripped off. THANKS!
charold3 2 years ago
And you helped me see the light, CherryCherryBloodyMerryIwannaEatASeveredChicken, for saying something so rediculously uncomprehendable that not even a republican would say it; C'est La Vie!
smartlamppost 2 years ago
charold3 Certainly you are entitled to your opinion. I took a path similar to yours-I saw the Nice (pre-ELP) and later listened to the original classical works. But it did not dim my appreciation for ELP and similar bands. They were just using a different vision. Both Ginastera (from the start) and Copland (who was a bit hesitant at first) liked ELP's versions of their pieces. Ginastera endorsed the ELP version. Cheapened...well, must a classic be played exactly the same way every time?
garygomesg 2 years ago
garygomesg, Have you heard Mussorgsky or Bartok? Nothing against Ginastera or Copland (they are ok), but M and B are just incredible, tho' B might take some time to get in to. As for my comments, I do stand behing them, but I'm mostly just having some immature fun ribbing you ELP fans. If I was a big fan, I'd ignore me. But I genuinely do think ELP were bad for music in general in the '70s, as bad as most rap, boy bands, or "new country" are today. I was a fan but outgrew them years ago.
charold3 2 years ago
Of course I have heard Bartok and Mussorgsky! Jeez! I owned all of Bartok's string quartets, his piano concertos, Concerto for Orchestra, Music for Strings, Percussion and Celesta and have definitely heard the piano version of Pictures. I don't agree with your assessment of ELP--they used electronic instruments and tight arrangements, but are by no means as bad as what you cite--and a damned bit better than all the stupid punk and roots rock of the era.
garygomesg 2 years ago
Chill, garygomesg, I was just asking! I much prefer the piano version of Pictures, don't you? All the Bartok you list--esp. those SQs--is very great stuff. I see why ELP would want to rip it off!
charold3 2 years ago
Bartok was one of the greatest composers ever, I think. (Messiaen's my personal favorite!) But there are lots of great ones out there that just aren't heard. I like either the piano or orchestral (Ravel) version of "Pictures". An English composer whose name escapes me did an orchestration of Pictures as well. One little progressive music sidelight--Kerry Minnear from Gentle Giant was a student of Sir Michael Tippett's, one of the great mid-20th century English serious composers.
garygomesg 2 years ago
I just have a soft spot for Keith Emerson... I think he has been crapped on by so many people, people who don't have one tenth the talent the man has, that I get a bit defensive. I think what bothered me was the implied assumption (I could be wrong) was that if you knew the "real" thing, you wouldn't like ELP. Well, I do and I do! Music, much as one may hate to admit it, is about taste and preference. There is no absolute standard. Bothers me about the people I don't like, but it's true. Best,G
garygomesg 2 years ago
@charold3, your statement that you "outgrew ELP years ago" indicates to me that what attracted you to their music back then (when you apparently liked them) had little to do with the actual music. You should give it another try, you might find that the music really is great after all. The reward is waiting there for you ...
tempname1100 1 year ago
@tempname1100, I commend you for your response to charold3. Reasoned, restrained, constructive - and rare online. You must be a true lover of music.
artysanmobile 1 year ago
@charold3
i think you should come to peace wit them and enter dept.`musical understanding`/ version. 1.3.
ELP did not -cheapen- the legendary, they simply played and interpreted them.
and that was surely much more to their taste than art-historians and afterborn knowitalls who put them on a throne and worship their untouchable genius!
imagine mozart would have had a minimoog.....
MoveOverCasanova 1 year ago
I know it's a bit late to reply to this but I can't help it.
So, IF English is yer native tongue and since you're quite obviously an adult you should have noticed that in KarnEvil9 Pete Sinfield was not referring to ELP, when he wrote I AM ALL THERE IS, but to an omnipotent cum-pee-uta 4 fx sake! As for the Ramones, the Pistols and the Clash, they were nothing more than chronic servants of the system; incompetent jesters who sold cheap revolution to the masses on behalf of the music industry.
sichameleon 1 year ago
wow. jst. wow! i love it.
now im tryin hard to decide between Keith Emerson and Ray Manzerek of The Doors when it comes to skills at playing the keyboard. though i really love The Doors, im kinda leaning towards Emerson.
XD
Cruz08erZ 2 years ago
The Doors dude isn't even in the same league as Emerson.
charold3 2 years ago
Too bad the cameraman went tight on Palmer instead of wide at 2:04 - one of the best parts of the song.
Great stuff otherwise! Thanks for posting!
spiralarch 2 years ago
Seeing this after being a fan for so long almost made my brain melt.
phantomfigure 2 years ago
OK, I'm a southern redneck. This was superior to football and politics in the 1970s. It is superior to football and politics.
ProgRok 2 years ago 5
Look the emputy Whiskey ,
guga41 2 years ago
iM GOING TO TELL YOU IDIOTS - CALIFORNIA jAM
XMIR10C 2 years ago
would love to have a cd of them only jamming...full of little surprises as it is the case here
juulbrie 2 years ago
how in the hell did greg know what to play on the bass? Each one of them is a very talented induvidual.
PageandPlant4Life 2 years ago 17
Palmers face at 2:04 LOL
sabbath231 2 years ago 3
thats because they've only done it 300 times that after noon already
kirkmach32 2 years ago
Very conscientious players. Back in the day with my early bands, I would try to explain a musical passage or an idea, the drummer would automatically start clamoring away with his rudiments, or the bass player would fumble about with a funk riff.....argh!! These guys have.." it "
Snotra 2 years ago 9
I LOVE THEIR SOUND !!
rockingharderthanyou 2 years ago 7
good post i agree
sixstringrock 2 years ago 2
This is 3rd impression
verbatumverbotten 2 years ago
Nope, this is BOTH the 2nd and the 3rd impression.
Sycsa 2 years ago 3
hell! never saw 2nd impression in live performance.
freitasnetuno 2 years ago
Tony, this is when I started listening to music....this is interesting cuz you see the rehearsal and the finished product in next one, and yes I DID go to that concert in1974.
humanomaly 2 years ago
Always loved Carl Palmer
under the radar as a master,
but he had his own sound - knew how to leave space, had power down pat
sort of in a league with Bill Bruford
more than just a rock drummer, jazzy...
ironic, Bruford was in King Crimson with Lake
ben909ben 2 years ago
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fmragusa 2 years ago
not true.........gl was in the first version. bb arrived later
coreyagraph 2 years ago
I stand corrected - ironic, Bruford passed through KC, as did Greg Lake. I liked all these bands that tried to stretch rock to fit classical, jazz, folk, and later world, and all kinds of music.
ben909ben 2 years ago 4
It looks like Palmer playing Ludwig Vistalite drums! Fabulous! I have that kit! Well, I have jet black Vistalites. Looks like 'em. Cool!
crimsonkng 2 years ago
And also this video is aviable on the DVD "EMERSON, LAKE AND PALMER BEYON THE BEGINING" Anthology 2004 of the biography, the discography and the story of this group from 1969 to 1997 !
ugopk1994 2 years ago
That's very cool stuff. Thanks for posting it. I'm a drummer as well and always like to tighten my nuts between beats. One's sound suffers if one's nuts are loose - at least in certain cases.
rx2411 2 years ago
where can i get this on dvd?...this would be a blast to have....
mk1317 2 years ago
search on the net for "Emerson, Lake and Palmer beyong the beginning" It has the whole cal jam set plus other live preformances and this is in the extras.
genesisrock43 2 years ago 2
carl even has time to tighten his nuts mid beet ha haha
klnine 2 years ago 4
L & P are very clearly not happy with being instructed by the big "E" on how to play their parts...but, well, it worked...nobody likes being told what to do...by a coach, bandleader, parent
dertel1 2 years ago 3
didn't notice that at all. It looked like a great collaboration of talent to me ~
ImAGrasshopper 2 years ago 2
From the greatest album in history. Brain Salad Surgery.
ProudConfederateSon 2 years ago 31
@ProudConfederateSon I agree, and notice they do it all live. No sampling cause they did know how to do it.
chucklestcb 1 year ago
@ProudConfederateSon with the the best album art of the time, too. if you dont know the story of H.R. Geiger's painting on the cover, look it up.
darrenedesignedu 1 year ago
@darrenedesignedu I know the story well. I first saw ELP in 1971 and never looked back.
racer500gp 1 year ago
@ProudConfederateSon give hemispheres by rush a listen. rush is the greatest band ever
emobangs03 1 year ago
@emobangs03 As great as Rush is and always will be, their level of musicianship and songwriting can never even come close to the complexity of ELP. BTW, I don't know about the guy your talking to, but I saw the Hemispheres tour. If you put that album next to Tarkus, you'll know what I'm talking about. I've always said that Rush was a great band who tried to be Yes , but failed, and in failing created a more accessible type of Prog, but nothing that can touch ELP, Yes or especially Gentle Giant.
racer500gp 1 year ago 3
@racer500gp ehh...i would say by terms of musical complexity theyre about the same. in terms of musical theory they both have it down. i definitely had my elp phase but now im in my rush phase simply because they've made about 50 more albums than elp
emobangs03 1 year ago
I'm very 3rd impressed!
plectrist 2 years ago 5
shit's nuts
ecrocksmysocks 2 years ago
This is so good I don't know what to do... I want to experience the 70's...
plasticcanon 2 years ago 12
Back in the early 70s I was at school and a big, big ELP fan. I still remember the excitement at picking up my reserved copy of Brain Salad Surgery, waiting at the Bus stop proudly displaying it under my arm!
gotears2listen 2 years ago 24
Remember the first time you heard 3rd Impression? I remember it vividly. When the computer/Keith said "DANGER!" "STRANGER!" I just about crapped myself.
audiophile55 2 years ago 2
legends.
electrokid1993 2 years ago
1:03 carl takes a moment to tighten the wingnut on his ride cymbal WHILE playing.
bowserb61 2 years ago 8
Yup. It used to be a common thing for we drummers, back then.
audiophile55 2 years ago
They had a great chemistry with each other in the beginning, as you can see in this video. But you can also see that each individual has his own direction. God, I love the way Greg smiles when he's playing those awesome bass lines!!
mikimcal 2 years ago 2
The amount of respect they have for each other's ideas is incredible. Seems like when one of them suggests something about another person's part, they just do it, and it usually turns out well.
grsamt 2 years ago 3
Just fantastically talented individuals ... whatever happened to these guys their later stuff just has none of this magic.
themountainviewguy 2 years ago
If you have a listen to Keith Emerson's new album I think you'll be pleasantly surprised,
bobfree66 2 years ago
I always liked Emerson's stuff even back when he was with the Nice. I did not realize he did something new, thanks.
themountainviewguy 2 years ago
even back to his time in the T-Bones although it was a bit more jazzy. To the later part of the T-Bones just before Keith moved on to The Nice they moved on to more rocky material
bobfree66 2 years ago
I have not heard it yet. I won't be surprised. Emerson always produced great music !
tranquility4all 2 years ago
I keep coming back to this video. It's like watching a 3 way train wreck. You have Keith and Carl barreling down there tracks aggressive and masculine and here comes Greg at full tilt so romantic and melodic. At the intersection you have a huge collision and you have ELP. Just an observation.
LilysApple 2 years ago