R. Federer - Return Analysis

[WuIzMe]

i think the commentator meant pace rather than spin

[BrewokGanas]

i have tried this kind of shot on return and failed so many times...

[Halos1987]

Is that comentator daft? "he's looking for pace not power" Power = Work/time hence a shot with more pace occurs over a shorter period of time and hence has more power...

[wind1357]

i may be wrong but the commentor prob meant by pace rather than power, he meant for pace u lock ur wrist and use ur body to hit the ball whereas for power you use ur wrist to get a extra power into the shot. With the ball coming to you like that, you dont really need the extra power.

[riquered]

@wind1357 he is talking about the swing path how he drops the racquet below the ball but not much because he is looking for pace rather than spin, if he drops the racquet more the swing path would be a little more vertical wich would result in more spin but since he is looking for pace hes swing path is more horizontal, he doesnt drop the racquet below the ball that much

[paullam007]

Pace rather than power?

I think he meant to say pace rather than spin?

[General0208]

I dont know but to me , i found it rather difficult as i felt that something cause my legs to be stuck on the ground and wish to break it!!!!

[General0208]

Of course, i know it will be hard to copy the exact motion but i find it rather hard to hit and jump into the air.

[mytennis4you]

@General0208 It's not a conscious jump, he rather gets propelled up by the ground reaction forces that Jason mentioned. The knee bend and the momentum of his swing take care of that.

Best!

[luckylatio77]

@mytennis4you he trys to spin the ball hard the jump comes naturally.

[BigChud08]

@mytennis4you It is very much so a conscious jump. If federer had not jumped out of the way, he would have been jammed by the kick serve.

When you say "he gets propelled up by the ground reaction forces." That is the definition of a jump. The "ground reaction forces" refers to federer getting above the ball--by jumping--in order to hit the forehand in his "hitting zone."

The knee bend has nothing to do with this shot seeing as bending your knees only helps when you are on the ground.

[Thealmostguy]

@BigChud08 "The knee bend has nothing to do with this shot..."

Of course it does. The knee bend is what provides the propulsion. Newton's 3rd, brah.

[BigChud08]

@Thealmostguy Fine you need to bend your knees to jump like that, thanks for that. Other than that, for this particular shot, it is not a big factor.

Newton's third law? Why this was even stated confuses me. Do you even know what Newtons Third Law is?

[Thealmostguy]

@BigChud08 Yes dude, I know what what Newton's Third is. It was just a humorous reference. I was thinking about going with "chi" instead, but I figured the link might be too obscure.

[Reyrocksall]

Everytime I hit a return, it feels like I like it hang to much in the air.