LOVING the fact that he said he and his boyfriend kinda strayed away from the gay community, because they have much more in common with their straight friends. Hallelujah! I'm a lesbian and have more in common with straight people... I have 0 lesbian or gay friends. So glad I'm not alone! :)
Part 2 Then there are the healthy unconfused bisexuals who when they meet someone for a relationship, the sex or gender doesn't matter. I mean, they are still attracted physically to that person, but it's about the person, so they are lucky in this sense, because there's more to choose from. (-: The question arises though: Do they find one sex more attractive than the other and will this lead to infidelity/cheating? Can a bisexual person ever be satisfied in a monogamous relationship?
In my experience I have found bisexuals to be either in a phase between straight or gay(usually young adults) or they use the word bisexual or bi-curious to escape the stigma from society. Usually, the behaviour is very clandestine, where they will have a hetero lover or spouse, but will cheat on the side, and they use words like "discreet" or "down low" in personal ads that almost exclusively are about casual sex. Not all, but a good number of bisexuals just have a sort of greedy fetish.
I personally identify as bisexual and while I know that personally for me it is not some "choice" or "phase" I can understand where he is coming from. A lot of people (I mostly notice this with females) in high school/college identify as bisexual when they are really just bi curious or perhaps not ready to identify as gay or lesbian yet. He has a very valid point; I think he is just somewhat generalizing.
@Arborverden no actually you do agree with Dan on this one 2:27 "yeah bisexuality exists." he is not saying bisexuality dose not exist, but that some gays, lesbians and even some straight people for all sorts of reasons convince themselves they are bi and that is a disservices to the bi community because these pretenders make the rest of the community seem less credible then it really is. he believes true bisexuals exist, but not everyone that claims to be bi is actually bi.
@Arborverden Yes, I agree. Please dont push bisexuals to go "oh, it must be that Im gay, Im lesbian, its a phase" when they are not. I know bisexuals for a fact and had been so for years and years, true and honestly; completely identified with the greys; please stop that black and white thing; of course bisexuality exists, and true bisexuals will die bisexuals. and its time to recognize it as a specific orientation, just as gay-straight-trans, etc. COME ON.
As a Bisexual male I have witnessed straight men in a bar trying to pick up, straight girls in a bar trying to pick up, bi guys and girls in a bar trying to pick up....NOTHING has EVER been more DISTURBING and hateful and predatory as gay males in a bar trying to pick up...It's Gross!
In case you didn't know...Prostitution...Old, paunchy, gassy and disgustingly decreptit old gay queens like Dan preying upon young straight or bi runaways, old money flashing queens seducing young bi and straight men into prostitution...Dan probably loves this for some spiteful reason that involves hating both bi and straight people but it's still wrong and it's what these old queens like Dan do every day. Just check out craigslist if you doubt me.
"Not with tears running down your face"....HAHAHAHAHAHA....I'll bet that a lot of the economically disadvantaged straight guys Dan pays to blow him behind his boyfriend's back do cry while they do it...and I guess Dan doesn't like that...LOL! Why do you think they're crying Dan? Maybe it's because your breath stinks like shit and they know you're a dirty creep who is economically abusing them....
Note to Lesbians and Transgendered people....STOP Letting gay men represent and define the movement for homosexual and transgender rights...The bisexual community has already observed how petty, nasty, spiteful and vicious this little community of homosexual males can be...elitist too! STOP letting gay men define your movement...It has been the biggest DISASTER for the homosexual community thus far! Lesbians and Trans people, Take your movement back from gay men!
@watchout8433 Did I mention RACIST? "Hey average gay dude....what do you think of black guys....'oooooh they have big dicks...dick, dick, dick....everything is about dick! suck my dick to prove that you're really bisexual and suck my dick to prove that being gay is a choice...the proof for everything is giving me a long wet blowjob....' Eeewwwww! Gay guys are gross.
"some bisexuals don't like that I tell the truth about bisexuality...blah blah bullshit"....Typical gay male use of condescension as a weapon in social engagements. You don't tell the "truth" about anything you little wanker. Typical gay male Narcissism on full display in his statement too. Of course.
"It is for many people a phase"....NO! It is for homo COWARDS like you a phase! So I should respect that when I'm the real thing? FUCK YOU! How about you don't STEAL my identity and self just because you're a pussy and a COWARD? How about that?
What's the point? The point is this and Dan Savage is dumb enough to prove my point in this video. Gay men, although persecuted and maligned are by and large NOT nice people...they're spiteful, vain, arrogant, obnoxious, difficult, racist, mysogynistic and self hating. It's no surprise Dan has to work out his personal spites against the bi guys he so OBVIOUSLY loved and couldn't hang on to...maybe it was because of his disgusting bad breath.
You thought straight guys had hate and hostility towards women??? Go to any gay bar and listen to how gay men call women names like "fish"...how they react with overdramatic and FAKED repulsion to the very mention of female genitalia...Watch how much they glorfiy cocks while they talk about how "gross" and "disgusting" and "fishy" women's vaginas are...THIS is the way gay men talk about women when they aren't around.
The real reason gay males fought so hard for social consideration is not because of equality...go to any gay bar in any big city and listen to how RACIST most fags are...listen to how much they TRULY HATE women....Gay males are just frustrated elitists. Every appeal they make to "equality" is acutally an appeal to VANITY because VANITY is all gay males know or understand.
@uky1985 I believe you. I believe this is one statement where you're not absolutely full of it. Thanks for admitting that you are indeed yet another gay male RACIST piece of SHIT! Thanks for that.
@watchout8433 You right black people especially black men will never be good enough for me EVER. They are at the bottom of the totem pole. You can have them, I don't want them.
Hey Faggots! STOP STEALING OUR IDENTITY WHEN YOUR TOO AFRAID AND TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO COME OUT!!!! That's why we hate you, in case you were wondering.
He questions the existence of bisexuals using homosexual cowardice as a JUSTIFICATION! He's out of his mind! So, let me get this "straight", Dan...Bisexuals should put up with your bullshit insults because some of you gay COWARDS feel the need to steal our identity and pretend to be us for a while as teenagers? FUCK YOU!!!!!
I could think of a better analogy, but you basically sound like this: "Of course people doubt that black people won't steal from them. Many of them have seen/heard of black people stealing from them or their friends. We're not persecuting you, its just a fundamental truth that black people are poor and more likely to steal from people. But black people who don't steal do exist. But I get to justify being bigoted because of a "majority"."
Also, since you seem to be cripplingly stupid in addition to defensively bigoted: most people are straight, and so bisexuals have more of a chance of coming across such a relationship than a gay one.
Additionally, even if someone is "80%" attracted to one gender and "20%" attracted to another, even if that is close to gay/straight, it isn't. It is bi. Your simplistic view of sexuality demonstrated in this and your article is pathetic.
@Mightfox I think you missed the point in what he was saying, there are a lot of true bisexual people, but some people like myself and Dan when we were young and stupid did a disservice to the bisexual community by taking the middle ground and portending to be something we are not because we could not accept the fact we were lesbian or gay. its not the true bisexuals that he is criticizing its the people that are trying to be something they are not he is criticizing and its not bigotry
I dont think he knows what "fundamental truth" is. He talks about the "majority"(citation) of bisexual people, and about his perception, but none of this justifies the shit he has said about bisexual people. This is a pathetic defense of what he has said.
The fact that he says "Yeah, bisexuality, it exists" at the every end out of tone with his entire bit- that "Oh, bisexuality is just a phase, we get to harass you etc because the "majority" just treats it like a phase"- is just pathetic.
I'm bisexual, and I like to see bisexuality as a combination of hetero- and homosexuality. Thusly, it's not a lie if a bisexual says that s/he's heterosexual, except that s/he's not *exclusively* heterosexual.
I can't imagine quitting the LGBT community, because I love it here too much to ever leave willingly. You'd have to drag me out of here by crude force.
Note to Lesbians and Transgendered people....STOP Letting gay men represent and define the movement for homosexual and transgender rights...The bisexual community has already observed how petty, nasty, spiteful and vicious this little community of homosexual males can be...elitist too! STOP letting gay men define your movement...It has been the biggest DISASTER for the homosexual community thus far! Lesbians and Trans people, Take your movement back from gay men!
The reason I tend to have a problem with people proclaiming they're "bi-sexual" is I think any human being is potentially bi-sexual if they're open minded. They should just say "I'm open minded"
@kaguth Yeah...gay guys love to think that under the right set of circumstances some hetero guy would actually want to fuck their pimple covered disgusting hairy male asses. The truth is that straight guys don't and never will want your gay ass and neither will us bisexuals, we're content with eachother. Keep dreaming, fag.
@watchout8433 If you're bisexual, why do you like "pimple covered hairy male asses"? And why have you never been with a guy who has grooming habits? And why do sum up all male on male sexuality as anal sex alone? Was every dude in ancient Rome gay? If so how did they manage to procreate when male on male sexuality was common place. It's just what a society considers normal at a given time. Right now its fashionable for straight girls to be "bi-curious" but not straight men.
Here's how gay people can get over hating us! Stop LYING to people and PRETENDING to be us when you're too afraid and too big of a COWARD to come out! Stop STEALING our identity to cover your own monosexual ass when the world looks too scary for you....and HOW DARE YOU BLAME US BRAVE BISEXUALS FOR YOUR COWARDICE WHEN YOU HAD TO HIDE BEHIND OUR IDENTITY WHEN YOU WERE TOO SCARED TO BE YOURSELVES! Cowardism is gay male nature and that's why we usually choose Women over you in the end!
@watchout8433 I'M A GAY MAN AND BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING. ALL BISEXUAL PEOPLE DO IS LIE AND CHEAT. THEY DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD COMMITMENT. BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE WALKING STD'S. BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE CHEAP EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS. BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TOTEM POLE.
The last minute of his disgusting speech is WHY bisexuals abandon faggots for women after we've had our fun with you. It's because you're GROSS and CREEPY! He talks about getting a blowjob like he's never had or will have one again...OBSESSED with sex and physicality. THIS is why bi guys can't stomach fags. You're gross. You're too sex crazy. You are male chauvinist PIGS! You're vain. You're arrogant and you pretend you're always right when you're usually wrong.
@uky1985 I'm not confused either...Pussy is better than male ass but some stupid gay twink ass will do in a pinch as long as it's smooth. But in the end real men might have some fun with your homo ass but you get tossed on the pile. You didn't really think a real man would spend his life with you, did you? And as for STD's it's bottoms who spread that and ALL homo males are bottoms, obviously.
@uky1985 I don't have any stds and neither do any of my bi friends. I do, however know a number of homosexual gay men living with HIV, AIDS, herpes, hepatitis A and B. Funny how reality flies in the face of your statement! I know several healthy bisexual males and many ill and sick homosexual males. Those hospices are full of gay men...not lesbians or bi men...your guilt is on your own heads.
@uky1985 And to think...you vain and shrill and narcissistic idiot gay males might have had us as allies but you were too caught up in your own nasty jealousies and pettiness to see us for the friends we bisexuals tried to be to you before you shunned us in your nasty way, pretending to be women while we LAUGHED at you for that! Fuck you too, gay males...We tried to help you and you bit us in the face...We abandon you now!
@watchout8433 You doing us a favor. Us gay men don't want your nasty asses anyway. Like I said bisexual men are nothing but walking std's. Trust ,me no one is jealous of bisexual people.
@uky1985 Your gay male elitism, prejudice and hatred are showing through loud and clear! I don't need people to be "jealous" of me...Only vain and arrogant homo males place any value on nonsense like that. LOL
@uky1985 OH! WE KNOW you don't want our asses...what you want is our COCKS! you slobber and drool and beg for straight and bi penis, exposing your own hatred for your own kind...The NUMBER ONE genre in gay male porn is "straight guys gone gay"...Why is that? It's because all of you gay guys hate eachother and wish some hetero guy would mistake you for a girl some day...You are PATHETIC!
How come every time Dan Savage demands proof for anything the "proof" always involves sucking his dick. Gay guys don't even realize what sex-sick DOUCHEBAGS they really are! PIGS! Any straight guy who conducted himself like this creepy, gross pervert would have a permanent handprint from all the slaps in the face. I KNOW what I am, you stupid, creepy, GROSS CREEP! I don't need to put your skinny bad breath face penis in my mouth to prove anything to you.He's so GROSS!Clear your throat Dan
Lol, will you all shut up? Yeah just like he said! They're many people who identify as bisexual as a leeway into realizing that they're homosexual. Just like they're many people who identify as bisexual, forever. All these people attacking him saying 'I decided I was bisexual when I was ___ . derp derp derp, haven't changed my mind yet' well clearly you don't know that much about sexual orientation. You don't decide your bi. You are. Just like how your eyes are brown.
@sgirl2233 The underlined problem with that is alot of gay people first come out as bi. It degrades us real bis. They were always gay, but instead of giving themselves time to mature they felt the need to slap a label on themselves ASAP.
Same. I came out as bi first... then as gay... then as straight. I came back full circle to bi again two years ago. What's so wrong about changing your sexual identity? If it confuses and frightens others so much it's their problem, not mine. I know who I am, and I know that will change. Why are people so afraid of accepting that people can change?
Wtf is with this guy? He basically said "When bisexuals get into committed relationships they're not bisexual anymore." Fuck this guy! I've known I was bi since I was a kid. My bi isn't going anywhere, and I'll only be in committed relationships!
Jesus, get off your fucking soap box. He says that a lot of bisexuals "move away from the LGBT community" when they get into opposite sex relationships. He doesn't imply that your sexuality has changed. Just that your social identity is perceived by a stranger that sees you with your opposite sex partner in the street to think "look at those straight people". Or if you were with a same sex partner "look at those gays". It's about invisibility, not about your changing.
@koishiou I'm not getting off my soap box, as fuck off! I heard what the fuck he said. Fuck him, AND fuck you!
It's already been said: The reason why alot of bis go into hetero relationships is because of gays like him treating us like shit! There's too many of them!
Thank you for that last comment. Your rampant homophobia is dually noted.
I love that people make uneducated remarks about shows or columns based very little review of first hand source material. Judging from your flagrant disregard for what he is literally saying and I have requoted, and things he has said in the past, I'd say this is less about Dan's opinion and more about some of your own failed dating history.
@koishiou DUELY noted. If you're going to play pseudo intellectual then don't fuck up and embarrass yourself with your colloquiallisms and grammar errors, you laughable FOOL!
Also, in your original reply which I noticed you've erased here you also misspelled it. It's "duly", not duely, which I'm sure you realized right after your posted it.
If you're going to insult someone online, at least look up the word in the dictionary. Although I'm actually laughing now. That brightened my day right up.
@watchout8433 did you watch this video, he was not claiming that all bisexuals are really just gays that do not want to "go all the way gay" just that some gay people take on that identity faulsly because the idea of loving the person more then there gender is appealing. Bisexuals exist but espically when you are young not all people that claim to be bisexual really are. There are real honest to god bisexuals out there, just not all that claim to be so are.
@koishiou When did I say I was trying to be "better" than anyone else. My goal is to be just as hateful, opinionated and exclusionary as people like Savage and see how they like it. Only egomaniacs and vanity cases like you think it's their obligation to try to be "better" than others. Get over yourself, you're not sent to save the world so stop pretending to be better than me.
the man says 'SOME' people are like that not all. I don't see any generalization or 'bullying'. he could give more credit to the hardships of being a real bi... People are hard to accept bisexuality because the instance a person gets in a (monogamous) relationship (s)he is either gay or straight. His/her preference for both sexes isn't very apparent any more.
Here's the deal, Dan Savage is for one group of people and one group of people only: white middle class monosexual cis-gendered able-bodied thin gay men who have never been raped or abused. Other words, Dan Savage supports Dan Savage, and no one else.
Don't be fooled, this douche is not working for our community. He's working for himself.
@FleetingWispsOfGlory is no one actually watching this video, he never said all bisexuals are really gays scared to be completely gay or straights looking to experiment, just that the identity is appealing and some people unfairly latch onto it. there are real honest to god bi people out there, the point that dan was making is that not everyone that claims to be bi is in fact by epically when they are still young and sorting out their identities.
Not everyone claims they are bi for attention. A lot of people, especially in their college years, use the identity "bi" because they like the idea. They realize on a larger scope having sex or a relationship with one gender or sex isn't that much different from having it with another. We all have attractive qualities. However, as we get a better grip on our preferences many realize they are almost all found in one sex, and therefore they drift away from the other sex and the gay community.
Maybe the reason many bi people drift away from the LGBTI "community" is that there are so many douchebags within it keeping them at arms length and telling them that they're "going through a phase" or that they have to "pick a side".
@Prenna23 Or maybe the gay community is tired of all the bisexual backstabbers who always end up in opposite sex relationships? The bis are the reals douchebags in this story, stop playing the victim card, ass*ole. Too many gay people around the world suffered because of cruel bisexuals, me and a LOT of my friends included. And then these very bisexuals had the NERVE to call gay people douchebags!! What a fcking hypocrisy.
@jodelleferlandfan1 Nobody owes you their life, you needy fuck. Nobody is stabbing you in the back by falling in love with someone of the opposite. What a disgusting mind you have.
.... yeah you know what. Bisexuals aren't essentially evil. Neither are gay people. Like.. we aren't two little camps that are fighting one another. Some bi people are douchebags, just like you, a gay person are a douchebag. But I know many nice non-douchebaggy people from columns of each.
@Prenna23 Nope its because all bisexual people do is cheat period end of story. Bisexual people are nothing but walking std's. They are a bunch of nasty asses.
Yet another example of why Dan Savage is generally not acceptable to me. He's offended me so many times that he's really no better than some of those religious groups and politicians spreading lies and propaganda.
I mean, I wish Dan could wrap his mind around his failings, but he really opposes any efforts to get him to realize them
I understand what he's saying. I think that's the case with a lot of those "gay for pay" porn stars. On the whole though, I was taken aback by his ridiculous generalization. As a gay man myself, I will NOT speak for bisexuals or how they feel because I'M NOT ONE. That's the problem with so much of the world. Straights think they can speak to the gay experience. Men think they can make choices about women's bodies. Whites speak to black issues. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS and love our differences.
@lcowles I agree with what you are saying completely. As human beings, we can surely empathize with others, but we do not have the right to judge others and place them into categories. It is for ourselves as individuals to find our own places in life.
Personally, I think it is healthy for people to experience different ways of life so that they may have time to think upon and choose the type of life they want to live.
Well both turn me on sooo yepp I don't think it's a Phase. Oh and bi's end up in straight relationships cuz there are more straight ppl than gay/bi ppl so they usually end up with the opposite gender...
I've known I was bi for as long as I've been aware of my sexuality. I'm kinda surprised to see his response to this question. Having known very few gay or bi friends I simply haven't seen the "bi phase" side of things. I trust that what he says is true but can't understand why anyone would claim to be bi when they are not. If you are gonna lie, why not just make your life easier and claim to be straight?
Listen, the main reason bisexuality isn't taken seriously is because tons of idiotic straight girls have been known to claim they're bi in order to titillate and attract guys, because they know most straight guys think that's "hot." You constantly see straight girls kissing other girls to get attention from guys. So, for several years now it's become almost "cool" for a hetero chick to claim she's bi... when she's really not.
if some1 is bisexual i dont see why they would want to have a gay relationship instead of a straight 1. bisexuals have a choice in what GENDER they like, but not the PERSON they like cos they cant help it.
Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
Any GLBT community around world emphasizes being honest with yourself and live out your true identity. Be who you truly are. Well why is that Gays and Straights alike seem to discriminate that Bisexuality is fake? Bisexuals are not going to be forced into the closet and pretend to be exclusively Homosexuals in bed with Gays, or pretend to be exclusively Heterosexual when in bed with Straights. That's dishonesty, and living a lie. Bisexualit DOES exist. Go watch Bi-porn and witness the evidence
I agree that some people actually do know they're gay but use bisexuality as a stepping stone.A bisexual person is attracted to both men and women but it doesn't mean it is always 50/50. Some lean more towards one gender and others feel it is actually pretty 50/50. The thing is that when a bisexual dates the opposite sex it doesn't mean they are moving away from the LGBT community. We are not gay and we are not straight. We don't have to be with the same sex all the time to be considered bi.
I understand the 'war' you are in, and truly appreciate all the profound things you do for the LGBT rights. However, not every gay or bi person feel like they need to be a part of some 'community'. They simply don't care, especially the new generation gays. Hence the gay Republicans... who only care about paying less taxes and spending that money they'll get to keep on clothes, parties and vacations.
So not every gay or bi person feels they need to be part of this 'fraternity'.
Oh, and most gays do not give a fuck about getting married also.
Ever.
They are not fighting some marriage equality war that every gay activist wishes to believe that all gay people will feel obligated to do. The life of a gay person is tough as it is. They may just want some peace and quiet and not to be objectified and gawked at at least once in their lives.
I'm bi, and I understand Dan's POV. He's not talking about what people ACTUALLY are, but what they identify as. A closeted person will identify as straight, even though they're not. A gay person may identify as bisexual, even though they're not. So it's not that he's saying "bi people will change and become gay when they accept it" but rather "bi-identified people may change to gay-identified when they accept it". it's about self-perception. he's NOT saying that bisexuality doesn't exist.
I think what Mr. Savage is failing to understand is that yes, some gay people do use bi as a shield or a stepping stone when they first come out. BUT then you others of us who really are bisexual. I'm bi and I've know that since I was in my teens. It wasn't a phase for me, I find both gender's equally attractive. But I've also gotten criticism from both sides of the spectrum of straight and gay and trust me it is much worse when it comes to being criticized by the gay community.
But the thing is, people who identify as bisexual who know they aren't should not be grouped with the bisexuals who truly ARE bi. It's not fair to call those who use it as a cover-up for their homosexuality "bisexual". It's also not fair to imply they're getting into opposite sex relationships because it's easier -- bisexuality MEANS you're fine with same- or opposite-sex relationships, not that you have an obligation to the LGBT comm to only date the same gender. I'm 13, I identify as bi, will
The fact of the matter is that we all have the choice to come out as whatever we feel comfortable with, and nobody has the right to doubt what we say, no matter how honest with ourselves we're being. But Dan's right - people will always doubt bisexuals, and we can work to change that, but it's hard to get away from. We have to accept that there will always be somebody who'll roll their eyes at us, and we have to learn to put up with that.
He is kind of right.ALOT gays come out as bi because they feel it is easier to accept.However,ALOT of people come out as bi because they GENUINELY ARE.What some gays don't know is that bi people are more unnacepted than gays.So in reality,coming out as gay would be better because you would only get crap from heteros.However,bi people get it from straights and gays alike.Not to mention trans people who get it from straights,gays,AND bisexuals.
I'm a 32 year old bisexual male. I've come to embrace it after years of not knowing how. I am still very attracted to women, however, over the last two years, I have been exploring and getting comfortable with my same-gender attractions. Does that mean that I'm totally gay, or am I still confused, Mr. Savage?
Why do most bisexuals end up in opposite-sex relationships? Because there are more straight people out there than gay people, so there are simple more opportunities to get with people of the opposite sex. It only makes sense. It's not self-inflicted homophobia, and it's not necessarily because bisexuality was a phase.
@sporks811 I think its more biological than that. physically, our bodies and minds desire a compliment, both in physicality and personality. it just so happens that male females tend to form compliments.
to me, i think sexuality is much more fluid than we think. i think it works like handedness, where most people are rights handed and a small minority are left handed, and only a few are ambidextrous. but if someone practices with their hand their not good in, they'll eventually become ambidextrous, just like if someone has sexual relations with someone they arent attracted to, they'll eventually be attracted to them, but the attraction will stop as as the relation stops, and be monosexual again
I love the message behind the It Get's Better project, but how can I support it when the man who founded it is so hateful to OVER HALF of the LGBTQ community (Savage has also made some transphobic comments, not to mention he thinks all questioning people are straight.)?
He sets our community back. Think about it-Savage started a compain to help kid's who are a part of a community that is supposed to be accepting, safe, understanding, and loving. He is none of these things to bi's or trans+.
Study Shows that BisexualMen Exist, but that does not mean your attracted to both equally fact im bisexual so i know but i will never suck off Dan Savage he's ugly but he's a smart guy
I'm not sure why people are getting so upset. He clearly said he believes bisexuals exist, and he also said that a lot of gay people use it is a stepping stone for coming out. That is completely true, I was one of those people and I'm ashamed that I might have hurt real bisexuals. All his points were valid, and at no point did he deny the existence of bisexuality. He wasn't saying you choose to be bisexual, he said a lot of gay people choose to just say that they are. What's wrong with that?
Probably, the explanation for why Mr Savage obviously dislikes bisexuality (while having no problem with all kinds of sexual "deviation" on the other side) is annoyingly easy and might sound dumb, although it isn't: he must be a closeted bi himself. Quite so.
But sadly, his narrow-mindedness is hardly to be corrected because as i could see on the internet there is a plethora of cheering for this utterly narcissistic and hopelessly stupid "icon". Why do people always admire assholes, i ask?
@skyspiral77 I don't think he means all bisexuals are going through a phase, just that some for some gay are scared to be fully gay and even straight people that want to experiment use that identity when its not really them. after 23 years i don't think its a phase but when your young its might be more appealing even if its not who you are. I wished for a long time i was, but the reality is that I'm a lesbian, not bi. that dose not mean that you are not bi, just that i am not.
Bisexuality isn't a phase or the ability to ge between straight and gay. Some people do say their bi when they're not, perhaps because they're in denial or confused or because sexuality is a spectrum and you may identify as straight but find someone of the same gender attractive. However many people are just bisexual and are attracted to both genders at the same time. Its horrifying that some gay rights supporters think that being gay is real and okay but being bisexual isn't. It makes me sad :(
@SkyStained At no point in time did he say that it's just a phase. He said that for some people it is nothing more than a stepping stone - as was the case with him. At no point was it implied that this is always the case. At the end of the video he even clearly says, "Yes, bi people exist." Stop being horrified or sad. Everything is okay!
even if you are bi, you are probably going to settle down with one person at some point. During that relationship being bi is probably going to be a fairly moot point for the most part. according to how I understand the Kinsey report, most people are bi to some degree. when I was a kid, I wanted to be bi, but I knew it was a lie since I have no interest in women.
This guy is so rape-y in his attitude to people who don't share his loose sexual morality. Sex is basically animalistic and pathetic (like violence). Deal with it.
it's all about what you feel comfortable calling yourself. I use to say i was bi then i realized that i'm actually a lesbian because i don't want to be in a relationship with a man, it just doesn't make sense to me and it kind of grosses me out. i feel more comfortable saying i'm gay than i did bi. not that being bi isn't real it is. i use to get mad at him but now i'm biting my tongue! he was right on some level or at least about me! again not all bis end up gay or straight some truly are bi!
Holy shit everybody, hes just making his point. this is his opinion, and if you dont like it, then dont watch it. If you watch it, then bitch about it, it just proves you have nothing better to do with your time but complain about things that arent going to change.
You know what's funny is this dirty faggot thinks he's actually being a turn on when he talks about his grotesque dick that has been up men's shitty assholes for decades. VOMIT!
What the fuck does this inarticulate white hypocrite faggot know about bisexuality? Please shut the fuck you piece of hypocritical misogynist shit. "Boohoooooo I'm a faggot I don't have the right to marry, where's my white Irish privilege?!!!" This guy is so full of disgusting hate of women b/c he doesn't have a vagina. This 55 yo asshole retard "sex columnist" hacks off people who are smart & repeats it. Wow dude, how white of you. What a fucking hack.
Kinsey Scale. People slide around it like an ice rink. Stop worrying people just do whatever you want and dun worry about gender. Whatever turns you on xD
And is Dan assuming that just because you're bisexual and you date someone of the opposite sex,that you stop being bisexual? What a fuck nugget. Dan, sure it's a phase for some people. But it's not for everyone. Some identify as such as a steping stone to come out as gay, but many are legitimately bisexual. So are those people fakers and non-existant? Just because I date someone of the opposite sex, it doesn't mean I stop having feelings for people of the same sex.
i don't understand why people insist on berating dan savage for his "biphobia" when i found there was no language in this video that could even be perceived as phobic, or hateful... dan is first and foremost a realist on issues concerning sexuality, and if people don't realize that what he's saying is truthful: many gays, myself included, come out as bisexual and later develop or realize that out sexuality is much "gayer" on the spectrum... he says right off bisexuality exists so
i'm pretty sure he said for many its a phase. god we're on the cusp of something epic stop hating people for mistakes! he may be wrong about some things but jesus christ love the guy for doing what he does and for trying.
all you bi people cry while you don't even understand people with intersex conditions. they don't even have a true place within the LGBT community atm
take a moment and appreciate the fact that gays can marry in NY now.
@drummerchick435 He never says its doesn't exist. It just so happens that when a lot of people come out, its easier to say "I'm Bi" over being just gay. I know that's how i went through all of high-school and my freshman year of college. So, of course bisexuality exists, but there is a big asterisk by the number of bisexuals.
I don't get it. He said he thinks it exists, he says how most people who identify as bi use it as a stepping stone, he says how most do end up in opposite sex relationships, all of which are true. I was about to rant on this video from seeing the comments but after watching it, I don't see why people are so mad at him.
Ok so duude. I except your opinion, But i mean really. Bisexuallity doesnt mean bi's like both genders equally. It just means we are attracted to both. And not completely gay. Obviously you werent bi. YOU. Were confused.
@EliteDarknessScyther Well, thankfully, that's just your opinion and not a proven fact. I'm gay but I'd defnitely date or spend the rest of my life with a bi guy if we were compatible.
Yet you make no mention of people who indeed identify as bi with the certainty that you do as gay. Instead of properly answering the question, you rant about how many poeple use it as a temporary label without acknowledging the presence of bi people in the LGBT community.
@wingsofindifference I never said he dismisses the existence of bi people. I said that he should be doing a better job representing them instead of using the popular theory that bi people are confused gay or straight people. To me it sounds more like the equivalent of saying "yes, gay people exist, BUT many of them are confused and actually straight". I don't think Dan would let a comment like that just pass without some scrutiny and I certainly wouldn't.
Here's what I got from what he was saying here...
1) Lots of young people who identify as bi are actually gay/lesbian and by saying they were "bi" it was sort of a transition towards coming out. This was, at the very least, true in his own personal experience.
2) Lots of times bi people end up with partners of the opposite gender. And while they are still bisexual, they no longer are directly affected by any of the legal and social oppression that other LBGT experience.
Dan, what the hell is wrong with you? How can you try to tell LGBTQ youth that it gets better, yet your history of being biphobic and transphobic is coming to light. How fucking dare you. Stop treating us like we're below you in the community. Just because you're gay, it doesn't mean you're better than the rest of us. We exist, and we are as loud as the G and L. We are NOT SILENT.
@TheElectricDreamer93 Here here! Dan Savage is biphobic, no matter what he tries to say! How can he ask for the gay community to have equality then in the same breath slate the Bi community? Dan Savage you are a hypocrite and a tool!
Bisexuality isn't a box, it's a spectrum. Some lean more to the gay side, and others lean more to the straight side; or some are in the middle. It's fucking bullshit that we as bisexuals/pansexuals have to put up with hate from the straight community. It's more fucked up when we get it from people WITHIN the LGBT community. The B and the T are not fucking SILENT, stop acting like it is.
He said that bisexuality is some high school thing that you grow out of. I identified as bisexual in middle school, in high school started identifying as lesbian for many years, and at age 24 went back to calling myself bisexual (or more specific, pansexual) again. Why? Because of douchebags like this. I was afraid to tell people that I liked more than one gender and then not being taken seriously.
"LIKE YOU LIKE IT!"
TracyDomenica 23 hours ago
LOVING the fact that he said he and his boyfriend kinda strayed away from the gay community, because they have much more in common with their straight friends. Hallelujah! I'm a lesbian and have more in common with straight people... I have 0 lesbian or gay friends. So glad I'm not alone! :)
Laughterbating 5 days ago
Part 2 Then there are the healthy unconfused bisexuals who when they meet someone for a relationship, the sex or gender doesn't matter. I mean, they are still attracted physically to that person, but it's about the person, so they are lucky in this sense, because there's more to choose from. (-: The question arises though: Do they find one sex more attractive than the other and will this lead to infidelity/cheating? Can a bisexual person ever be satisfied in a monogamous relationship?
wonderwhaz797 1 week ago
In my experience I have found bisexuals to be either in a phase between straight or gay(usually young adults) or they use the word bisexual or bi-curious to escape the stigma from society. Usually, the behaviour is very clandestine, where they will have a hetero lover or spouse, but will cheat on the side, and they use words like "discreet" or "down low" in personal ads that almost exclusively are about casual sex. Not all, but a good number of bisexuals just have a sort of greedy fetish.
wonderwhaz797 1 week ago
I personally identify as bisexual and while I know that personally for me it is not some "choice" or "phase" I can understand where he is coming from. A lot of people (I mostly notice this with females) in high school/college identify as bisexual when they are really just bi curious or perhaps not ready to identify as gay or lesbian yet. He has a very valid point; I think he is just somewhat generalizing.
Love you Dan Savage!
ellzabethe 3 weeks ago
This guy is HYSTERICAL!!!!! Bahahahaha!
McGarvinStudios 3 weeks ago
WHAT! sorry dan, but bisexuality does exist. I have to disagree with him on this one.
Arborverden 3 weeks ago
@Arborverden no actually you do agree with Dan on this one 2:27 "yeah bisexuality exists." he is not saying bisexuality dose not exist, but that some gays, lesbians and even some straight people for all sorts of reasons convince themselves they are bi and that is a disservices to the bi community because these pretenders make the rest of the community seem less credible then it really is. he believes true bisexuals exist, but not everyone that claims to be bi is actually bi.
Fireflygamer 3 weeks ago
@Fireflygamer Oh. Well I agree with that.
Arborverden 3 weeks ago
@Arborverden Yes, I agree. Please dont push bisexuals to go "oh, it must be that Im gay, Im lesbian, its a phase" when they are not. I know bisexuals for a fact and had been so for years and years, true and honestly; completely identified with the greys; please stop that black and white thing; of course bisexuality exists, and true bisexuals will die bisexuals. and its time to recognize it as a specific orientation, just as gay-straight-trans, etc. COME ON.
anitasseo 2 days ago
As a Bisexual male I have witnessed straight men in a bar trying to pick up, straight girls in a bar trying to pick up, bi guys and girls in a bar trying to pick up....NOTHING has EVER been more DISTURBING and hateful and predatory as gay males in a bar trying to pick up...It's Gross!
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
In case you didn't know...Prostitution...Old, paunchy, gassy and disgustingly decreptit old gay queens like Dan preying upon young straight or bi runaways, old money flashing queens seducing young bi and straight men into prostitution...Dan probably loves this for some spiteful reason that involves hating both bi and straight people but it's still wrong and it's what these old queens like Dan do every day. Just check out craigslist if you doubt me.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
"Not with tears running down your face"....HAHAHAHAHAHA....I'll bet that a lot of the economically disadvantaged straight guys Dan pays to blow him behind his boyfriend's back do cry while they do it...and I guess Dan doesn't like that...LOL! Why do you think they're crying Dan? Maybe it's because your breath stinks like shit and they know you're a dirty creep who is economically abusing them....
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
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Note to Lesbians and Transgendered people....STOP Letting gay men represent and define the movement for homosexual and transgender rights...The bisexual community has already observed how petty, nasty, spiteful and vicious this little community of homosexual males can be...elitist too! STOP letting gay men define your movement...It has been the biggest DISASTER for the homosexual community thus far! Lesbians and Trans people, Take your movement back from gay men!
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
@watchout8433 Did I mention RACIST? "Hey average gay dude....what do you think of black guys....'oooooh they have big dicks...dick, dick, dick....everything is about dick! suck my dick to prove that you're really bisexual and suck my dick to prove that being gay is a choice...the proof for everything is giving me a long wet blowjob....' Eeewwwww! Gay guys are gross.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
"some bisexuals don't like that I tell the truth about bisexuality...blah blah bullshit"....Typical gay male use of condescension as a weapon in social engagements. You don't tell the "truth" about anything you little wanker. Typical gay male Narcissism on full display in his statement too. Of course.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
"It is for many people a phase"....NO! It is for homo COWARDS like you a phase! So I should respect that when I'm the real thing? FUCK YOU! How about you don't STEAL my identity and self just because you're a pussy and a COWARD? How about that?
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
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What's the point? The point is this and Dan Savage is dumb enough to prove my point in this video. Gay men, although persecuted and maligned are by and large NOT nice people...they're spiteful, vain, arrogant, obnoxious, difficult, racist, mysogynistic and self hating. It's no surprise Dan has to work out his personal spites against the bi guys he so OBVIOUSLY loved and couldn't hang on to...maybe it was because of his disgusting bad breath.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
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watchout8433 3 weeks ago
You thought straight guys had hate and hostility towards women??? Go to any gay bar and listen to how gay men call women names like "fish"...how they react with overdramatic and FAKED repulsion to the very mention of female genitalia...Watch how much they glorfiy cocks while they talk about how "gross" and "disgusting" and "fishy" women's vaginas are...THIS is the way gay men talk about women when they aren't around.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
The real reason gay males fought so hard for social consideration is not because of equality...go to any gay bar in any big city and listen to how RACIST most fags are...listen to how much they TRULY HATE women....Gay males are just frustrated elitists. Every appeal they make to "equality" is acutally an appeal to VANITY because VANITY is all gay males know or understand.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
@watchout8433 I am a gay man and I will admit that I am very racist towards ALL black men and women.
uky1985 3 weeks ago
@uky1985 I believe you. I believe this is one statement where you're not absolutely full of it. Thanks for admitting that you are indeed yet another gay male RACIST piece of SHIT! Thanks for that.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
@uky1985 I KNEW that was coming! Of course you are....
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
@watchout8433 You right black people especially black men will never be good enough for me EVER. They are at the bottom of the totem pole. You can have them, I don't want them.
uky1985 3 weeks ago
Hey Faggots! STOP STEALING OUR IDENTITY WHEN YOUR TOO AFRAID AND TOO MUCH OF A COWARD TO COME OUT!!!! That's why we hate you, in case you were wondering.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
He questions the existence of bisexuals using homosexual cowardice as a JUSTIFICATION! He's out of his mind! So, let me get this "straight", Dan...Bisexuals should put up with your bullshit insults because some of you gay COWARDS feel the need to steal our identity and pretend to be us for a while as teenagers? FUCK YOU!!!!!
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
I could think of a better analogy, but you basically sound like this: "Of course people doubt that black people won't steal from them. Many of them have seen/heard of black people stealing from them or their friends. We're not persecuting you, its just a fundamental truth that black people are poor and more likely to steal from people. But black people who don't steal do exist. But I get to justify being bigoted because of a "majority"."
Mightfox 4 weeks ago 6
Also, since you seem to be cripplingly stupid in addition to defensively bigoted: most people are straight, and so bisexuals have more of a chance of coming across such a relationship than a gay one.
Additionally, even if someone is "80%" attracted to one gender and "20%" attracted to another, even if that is close to gay/straight, it isn't. It is bi. Your simplistic view of sexuality demonstrated in this and your article is pathetic.
Mightfox 4 weeks ago
You're a bigot, dan savage. People racist against black people and women use "The majority" or "A lot of" to justify what they feel. Fuck off.
Mightfox 4 weeks ago 2
@Mightfox I think you missed the point in what he was saying, there are a lot of true bisexual people, but some people like myself and Dan when we were young and stupid did a disservice to the bisexual community by taking the middle ground and portending to be something we are not because we could not accept the fact we were lesbian or gay. its not the true bisexuals that he is criticizing its the people that are trying to be something they are not he is criticizing and its not bigotry
Fireflygamer 3 weeks ago 9
I dont think he knows what "fundamental truth" is. He talks about the "majority"(citation) of bisexual people, and about his perception, but none of this justifies the shit he has said about bisexual people. This is a pathetic defense of what he has said.
The fact that he says "Yeah, bisexuality, it exists" at the every end out of tone with his entire bit- that "Oh, bisexuality is just a phase, we get to harass you etc because the "majority" just treats it like a phase"- is just pathetic.
Mightfox 4 weeks ago
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I'm bisexual, and I like to see bisexuality as a combination of hetero- and homosexuality. Thusly, it's not a lie if a bisexual says that s/he's heterosexual, except that s/he's not *exclusively* heterosexual.
I can't imagine quitting the LGBT community, because I love it here too much to ever leave willingly. You'd have to drag me out of here by crude force.
Wish you a satisfying new year's eve.
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xXvolhvXx 4 weeks ago
Note to Lesbians and Transgendered people....STOP Letting gay men represent and define the movement for homosexual and transgender rights...The bisexual community has already observed how petty, nasty, spiteful and vicious this little community of homosexual males can be...elitist too! STOP letting gay men define your movement...It has been the biggest DISASTER for the homosexual community thus far! Lesbians and Trans people, Take your movement back from gay men!
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
Dear Homosexuals,
We Hate You Too!
Sincerely,
Bisexuals
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
Gawd You All Suck!! -_-
oliveinny 1 month ago
The reason I tend to have a problem with people proclaiming they're "bi-sexual" is I think any human being is potentially bi-sexual if they're open minded. They should just say "I'm open minded"
kaguth 1 month ago
@kaguth Yeah...gay guys love to think that under the right set of circumstances some hetero guy would actually want to fuck their pimple covered disgusting hairy male asses. The truth is that straight guys don't and never will want your gay ass and neither will us bisexuals, we're content with eachother. Keep dreaming, fag.
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@watchout8433 If you're bisexual, why do you like "pimple covered hairy male asses"? And why have you never been with a guy who has grooming habits? And why do sum up all male on male sexuality as anal sex alone? Was every dude in ancient Rome gay? If so how did they manage to procreate when male on male sexuality was common place. It's just what a society considers normal at a given time. Right now its fashionable for straight girls to be "bi-curious" but not straight men.
kaguth 4 weeks ago
@kaguth There is a difference between being open minded and being confirmed that they are attracted to both genders to some degree.
Mightfox 4 weeks ago
Here's how gay people can get over hating us! Stop LYING to people and PRETENDING to be us when you're too afraid and too big of a COWARD to come out! Stop STEALING our identity to cover your own monosexual ass when the world looks too scary for you....and HOW DARE YOU BLAME US BRAVE BISEXUALS FOR YOUR COWARDICE WHEN YOU HAD TO HIDE BEHIND OUR IDENTITY WHEN YOU WERE TOO SCARED TO BE YOURSELVES! Cowardism is gay male nature and that's why we usually choose Women over you in the end!
watchout8433 1 month ago
@watchout8433 I'M A GAY MAN AND BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE DISGUSTING. ALL BISEXUAL PEOPLE DO IS LIE AND CHEAT. THEY DO NOT KNOW THE MEANING OF THE WORD COMMITMENT. BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE WALKING STD'S. BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE CHEAP EXCUSES FOR HUMAN BEINGS. BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TOTEM POLE.
uky1985 1 month ago
Bigoted gay elitist idiot. Plus he's UGLY as the gates of hell. He has the kind of face where it looks like he always has bad breath.
watchout8433 1 month ago
The last minute of his disgusting speech is WHY bisexuals abandon faggots for women after we've had our fun with you. It's because you're GROSS and CREEPY! He talks about getting a blowjob like he's never had or will have one again...OBSESSED with sex and physicality. THIS is why bi guys can't stomach fags. You're gross. You're too sex crazy. You are male chauvinist PIGS! You're vain. You're arrogant and you pretend you're always right when you're usually wrong.
watchout8433 1 month ago
@watchout8433 BISEXUAL PEOPLE ARE TRASHY. BISEXUAL PEOPLE NEED TO BE PUT ON AN ISLAND AND BLOWN THE FUCK UP.
uky1985 1 month ago
@uky1985 Saying it with his caps lock on means that he's angry...back up everybody...we got a badass over here! LOL
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@watchout8433 Am i lying about bisexual people? Nope.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 Do we care what faggots think of us? Nope.
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@watchout8433 If you say so. Bisexual people are the poster child for stds. Unlike you I am not confused about what I want.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 I'm not confused either...Pussy is better than male ass but some stupid gay twink ass will do in a pinch as long as it's smooth. But in the end real men might have some fun with your homo ass but you get tossed on the pile. You didn't really think a real man would spend his life with you, did you? And as for STD's it's bottoms who spread that and ALL homo males are bottoms, obviously.
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 I don't have any stds and neither do any of my bi friends. I do, however know a number of homosexual gay men living with HIV, AIDS, herpes, hepatitis A and B. Funny how reality flies in the face of your statement! I know several healthy bisexual males and many ill and sick homosexual males. Those hospices are full of gay men...not lesbians or bi men...your guilt is on your own heads.
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 And to think...you vain and shrill and narcissistic idiot gay males might have had us as allies but you were too caught up in your own nasty jealousies and pettiness to see us for the friends we bisexuals tried to be to you before you shunned us in your nasty way, pretending to be women while we LAUGHED at you for that! Fuck you too, gay males...We tried to help you and you bit us in the face...We abandon you now!
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@watchout8433 You doing us a favor. Us gay men don't want your nasty asses anyway. Like I said bisexual men are nothing but walking std's. Trust ,me no one is jealous of bisexual people.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 Your gay male elitism, prejudice and hatred are showing through loud and clear! I don't need people to be "jealous" of me...Only vain and arrogant homo males place any value on nonsense like that. LOL
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 I think you meant to say..."You're doing us a favor", didn't you idiot?
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 OH! WE KNOW you don't want our asses...what you want is our COCKS! you slobber and drool and beg for straight and bi penis, exposing your own hatred for your own kind...The NUMBER ONE genre in gay male porn is "straight guys gone gay"...Why is that? It's because all of you gay guys hate eachother and wish some hetero guy would mistake you for a girl some day...You are PATHETIC!
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
@watchout8433 Whatever. Don't pee on my leg and tell me it's raining.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
@uky1985 Nice slogan memorizing, faggot. I bet you have all the jingles memorized for the pride parade too....you're pathetic.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
@watchout8433 You are full of shit.
uky1985 3 weeks ago
@uky1985 Gee, you must be the captain of your "special" high school debating team with well thought out arguments and points like that....retard.
watchout8433 3 weeks ago
How come every time Dan Savage demands proof for anything the "proof" always involves sucking his dick. Gay guys don't even realize what sex-sick DOUCHEBAGS they really are! PIGS! Any straight guy who conducted himself like this creepy, gross pervert would have a permanent handprint from all the slaps in the face. I KNOW what I am, you stupid, creepy, GROSS CREEP! I don't need to put your skinny bad breath face penis in my mouth to prove anything to you.He's so GROSS!Clear your throat Dan
watchout8433 1 month ago
Lol, will you all shut up? Yeah just like he said! They're many people who identify as bisexual as a leeway into realizing that they're homosexual. Just like they're many people who identify as bisexual, forever. All these people attacking him saying 'I decided I was bisexual when I was ___ . derp derp derp, haven't changed my mind yet' well clearly you don't know that much about sexual orientation. You don't decide your bi. You are. Just like how your eyes are brown.
sgirl2233 1 month ago
@sgirl2233 The underlined problem with that is alot of gay people first come out as bi. It degrades us real bis. They were always gay, but instead of giving themselves time to mature they felt the need to slap a label on themselves ASAP.
Not that I can talk. I first came out as gay. 8D
Tatsuyoujo 1 month ago
@Tatsuyoujo
Same. I came out as bi first... then as gay... then as straight. I came back full circle to bi again two years ago. What's so wrong about changing your sexual identity? If it confuses and frightens others so much it's their problem, not mine. I know who I am, and I know that will change. Why are people so afraid of accepting that people can change?
koishiou 1 month ago
Wtf is with this guy? He basically said "When bisexuals get into committed relationships they're not bisexual anymore." Fuck this guy! I've known I was bi since I was a kid. My bi isn't going anywhere, and I'll only be in committed relationships!
Tatsuyoujo 1 month ago
@Tatsuyoujo
Jesus, get off your fucking soap box. He says that a lot of bisexuals "move away from the LGBT community" when they get into opposite sex relationships. He doesn't imply that your sexuality has changed. Just that your social identity is perceived by a stranger that sees you with your opposite sex partner in the street to think "look at those straight people". Or if you were with a same sex partner "look at those gays". It's about invisibility, not about your changing.
koishiou 1 month ago
@koishiou I'm not getting off my soap box, as fuck off! I heard what the fuck he said. Fuck him, AND fuck you!
It's already been said: The reason why alot of bis go into hetero relationships is because of gays like him treating us like shit! There's too many of them!
Tatsuyoujo 1 month ago
@Tatsuyoujo
Thank you for that last comment. Your rampant homophobia is dually noted.
I love that people make uneducated remarks about shows or columns based very little review of first hand source material. Judging from your flagrant disregard for what he is literally saying and I have requoted, and things he has said in the past, I'd say this is less about Dan's opinion and more about some of your own failed dating history.
koishiou 1 month ago
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watchout8433 1 month ago
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@koishiou DUELY noted. If you're going to play pseudo intellectual then don't fuck up and embarrass yourself with your colloquiallisms and grammar errors, you laughable FOOL!
watchout8433 1 month ago
@koishiou HAHAHAHAHAHA! "Dually noted" HAHAHAHAHA! Does that mean two people noted it? You don't read many books do you, idiot???
watchout8433 1 month ago
@watchout8433
It does in fact. Myself and my invisible friend.
koishiou 1 month ago
@watchout8433
Also, in your original reply which I noticed you've erased here you also misspelled it. It's "duly", not duely, which I'm sure you realized right after your posted it.
If you're going to insult someone online, at least look up the word in the dictionary. Although I'm actually laughing now. That brightened my day right up.
koishiou 1 month ago
Typical gay male narcissism and vanity. "Only I really exist, everybody is full of shit". Fuck you.
watchout8433 1 month ago
@watchout8433 did you watch this video, he was not claiming that all bisexuals are really just gays that do not want to "go all the way gay" just that some gay people take on that identity faulsly because the idea of loving the person more then there gender is appealing. Bisexuals exist but espically when you are young not all people that claim to be bisexual really are. There are real honest to god bisexuals out there, just not all that claim to be so are.
Fireflygamer 1 month ago
@watchout8433
When did he say that?
How does it make you a better person to discriminate against him based on his sexual identity, sex or gender?
koishiou 1 month ago
@koishiou When did I say I was trying to be "better" than anyone else. My goal is to be just as hateful, opinionated and exclusionary as people like Savage and see how they like it. Only egomaniacs and vanity cases like you think it's their obligation to try to be "better" than others. Get over yourself, you're not sent to save the world so stop pretending to be better than me.
watchout8433 1 month ago
@watchout8433
Maybe it's my fault for assuming that you weren't a sociopath, though. I'm very sorry. For the people around you, that is, not you.
koishiou 1 month ago
I decided I was bi at 15. 22 and it still hasn't passed. Hmm...
lisambofoh 1 month ago
the man says 'SOME' people are like that not all. I don't see any generalization or 'bullying'. he could give more credit to the hardships of being a real bi... People are hard to accept bisexuality because the instance a person gets in a (monogamous) relationship (s)he is either gay or straight. His/her preference for both sexes isn't very apparent any more.
redbarahime 1 month ago
Here's the deal, Dan Savage is for one group of people and one group of people only: white middle class monosexual cis-gendered able-bodied thin gay men who have never been raped or abused. Other words, Dan Savage supports Dan Savage, and no one else.
Don't be fooled, this douche is not working for our community. He's working for himself.
FleetingWispsOfGlory 2 months ago
@FleetingWispsOfGlory is no one actually watching this video, he never said all bisexuals are really gays scared to be completely gay or straights looking to experiment, just that the identity is appealing and some people unfairly latch onto it. there are real honest to god bi people out there, the point that dan was making is that not everyone that claims to be bi is in fact by epically when they are still young and sorting out their identities.
Fireflygamer 1 month ago
Not everyone claims they are bi for attention. A lot of people, especially in their college years, use the identity "bi" because they like the idea. They realize on a larger scope having sex or a relationship with one gender or sex isn't that much different from having it with another. We all have attractive qualities. However, as we get a better grip on our preferences many realize they are almost all found in one sex, and therefore they drift away from the other sex and the gay community.
cgottschify 2 months ago
Maybe the reason many bi people drift away from the LGBTI "community" is that there are so many douchebags within it keeping them at arms length and telling them that they're "going through a phase" or that they have to "pick a side".
Prenna23 2 months ago 11
@Prenna23 Or maybe the gay community is tired of all the bisexual backstabbers who always end up in opposite sex relationships? The bis are the reals douchebags in this story, stop playing the victim card, ass*ole. Too many gay people around the world suffered because of cruel bisexuals, me and a LOT of my friends included. And then these very bisexuals had the NERVE to call gay people douchebags!! What a fcking hypocrisy.
jodelleferlandfan1 1 month ago
@jodelleferlandfan1 Nobody owes you their life, you needy fuck. Nobody is stabbing you in the back by falling in love with someone of the opposite. What a disgusting mind you have.
watchout8433 1 month ago
@jodelleferlandfan1
.... yeah you know what. Bisexuals aren't essentially evil. Neither are gay people. Like.. we aren't two little camps that are fighting one another. Some bi people are douchebags, just like you, a gay person are a douchebag. But I know many nice non-douchebaggy people from columns of each.
koishiou 1 month ago
@Prenna23 Nope its because all bisexual people do is cheat period end of story. Bisexual people are nothing but walking std's. They are a bunch of nasty asses.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
Yet another example of why Dan Savage is generally not acceptable to me. He's offended me so many times that he's really no better than some of those religious groups and politicians spreading lies and propaganda.
I mean, I wish Dan could wrap his mind around his failings, but he really opposes any efforts to get him to realize them
fluffywalrus 2 months ago
I understand what he's saying. I think that's the case with a lot of those "gay for pay" porn stars. On the whole though, I was taken aback by his ridiculous generalization. As a gay man myself, I will NOT speak for bisexuals or how they feel because I'M NOT ONE. That's the problem with so much of the world. Straights think they can speak to the gay experience. Men think they can make choices about women's bodies. Whites speak to black issues. MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS and love our differences.
lcowles 2 months ago
@lcowles I agree with what you are saying completely. As human beings, we can surely empathize with others, but we do not have the right to judge others and place them into categories. It is for ourselves as individuals to find our own places in life.
Personally, I think it is healthy for people to experience different ways of life so that they may have time to think upon and choose the type of life they want to live.
marcjosh91 1 month ago
Well both turn me on sooo yepp I don't think it's a Phase. Oh and bi's end up in straight relationships cuz there are more straight ppl than gay/bi ppl so they usually end up with the opposite gender...
Instrumental1st 2 months ago
I've known I was bi for as long as I've been aware of my sexuality. I'm kinda surprised to see his response to this question. Having known very few gay or bi friends I simply haven't seen the "bi phase" side of things. I trust that what he says is true but can't understand why anyone would claim to be bi when they are not. If you are gonna lie, why not just make your life easier and claim to be straight?
maarakailet1 2 months ago
Listen, the main reason bisexuality isn't taken seriously is because tons of idiotic straight girls have been known to claim they're bi in order to titillate and attract guys, because they know most straight guys think that's "hot." You constantly see straight girls kissing other girls to get attention from guys. So, for several years now it's become almost "cool" for a hetero chick to claim she's bi... when she's really not.
Yrhp8268 3 months ago
the best thing that queers have going for them is Stewie Griffin....
KillinDaWelfareMCs 3 months ago
if some1 is bisexual i dont see why they would want to have a gay relationship instead of a straight 1. bisexuals have a choice in what GENDER they like, but not the PERSON they like cos they cant help it.
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lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
Any GLBT community around world emphasizes being honest with yourself and live out your true identity. Be who you truly are. Well why is that Gays and Straights alike seem to discriminate that Bisexuality is fake? Bisexuals are not going to be forced into the closet and pretend to be exclusively Homosexuals in bed with Gays, or pretend to be exclusively Heterosexual when in bed with Straights. That's dishonesty, and living a lie. Bisexualit DOES exist. Go watch Bi-porn and witness the evidence
jusitke07 3 months ago 3
I agree that some people actually do know they're gay but use bisexuality as a stepping stone.A bisexual person is attracted to both men and women but it doesn't mean it is always 50/50. Some lean more towards one gender and others feel it is actually pretty 50/50. The thing is that when a bisexual dates the opposite sex it doesn't mean they are moving away from the LGBT community. We are not gay and we are not straight. We don't have to be with the same sex all the time to be considered bi.
MuayThaiBoxing93 4 months ago 5
Mr. Savage,
I understand the 'war' you are in, and truly appreciate all the profound things you do for the LGBT rights. However, not every gay or bi person feel like they need to be a part of some 'community'. They simply don't care, especially the new generation gays. Hence the gay Republicans... who only care about paying less taxes and spending that money they'll get to keep on clothes, parties and vacations.
So not every gay or bi person feels they need to be part of this 'fraternity'.
calaftheeast 4 months ago
@calaftheeast
Oh, and most gays do not give a fuck about getting married also.
Ever.
They are not fighting some marriage equality war that every gay activist wishes to believe that all gay people will feel obligated to do. The life of a gay person is tough as it is. They may just want some peace and quiet and not to be objectified and gawked at at least once in their lives.
calaftheeast 4 months ago
I'm bi, and I understand Dan's POV. He's not talking about what people ACTUALLY are, but what they identify as. A closeted person will identify as straight, even though they're not. A gay person may identify as bisexual, even though they're not. So it's not that he's saying "bi people will change and become gay when they accept it" but rather "bi-identified people may change to gay-identified when they accept it". it's about self-perception. he's NOT saying that bisexuality doesn't exist.
tokoshie 4 months ago 6
I think what Mr. Savage is failing to understand is that yes, some gay people do use bi as a shield or a stepping stone when they first come out. BUT then you others of us who really are bisexual. I'm bi and I've know that since I was in my teens. It wasn't a phase for me, I find both gender's equally attractive. But I've also gotten criticism from both sides of the spectrum of straight and gay and trust me it is much worse when it comes to being criticized by the gay community.
alicewater2003 4 months ago 4
But the thing is, people who identify as bisexual who know they aren't should not be grouped with the bisexuals who truly ARE bi. It's not fair to call those who use it as a cover-up for their homosexuality "bisexual". It's also not fair to imply they're getting into opposite sex relationships because it's easier -- bisexuality MEANS you're fine with same- or opposite-sex relationships, not that you have an obligation to the LGBT comm to only date the same gender. I'm 13, I identify as bi, will
bobbyrayfans 4 months ago 2
The fact of the matter is that we all have the choice to come out as whatever we feel comfortable with, and nobody has the right to doubt what we say, no matter how honest with ourselves we're being. But Dan's right - people will always doubt bisexuals, and we can work to change that, but it's hard to get away from. We have to accept that there will always be somebody who'll roll their eyes at us, and we have to learn to put up with that.
ArtemisRampant 4 months ago
Fuck you.
Emiello 4 months ago
He is kind of right.ALOT gays come out as bi because they feel it is easier to accept.However,ALOT of people come out as bi because they GENUINELY ARE.What some gays don't know is that bi people are more unnacepted than gays.So in reality,coming out as gay would be better because you would only get crap from heteros.However,bi people get it from straights and gays alike.Not to mention trans people who get it from straights,gays,AND bisexuals.
tripeandbean 4 months ago
I'm a 32 year old bisexual male. I've come to embrace it after years of not knowing how. I am still very attracted to women, however, over the last two years, I have been exploring and getting comfortable with my same-gender attractions. Does that mean that I'm totally gay, or am I still confused, Mr. Savage?
brentduanefoster 4 months ago
@brentduanefoster You're just disgusting that's all.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
Why do most bisexuals end up in opposite-sex relationships? Because there are more straight people out there than gay people, so there are simple more opportunities to get with people of the opposite sex. It only makes sense. It's not self-inflicted homophobia, and it's not necessarily because bisexuality was a phase.
sporks811 4 months ago 47
@sporks811 I think its more biological than that. physically, our bodies and minds desire a compliment, both in physicality and personality. it just so happens that male females tend to form compliments.
vtran31 2 months ago
@sporks811 That's why I've dated more guys than girls.
maarakailet1 2 months ago
@sporks811 U mad, gay guys? LOL!!!!
watchout8433 4 weeks ago
to me, i think sexuality is much more fluid than we think. i think it works like handedness, where most people are rights handed and a small minority are left handed, and only a few are ambidextrous. but if someone practices with their hand their not good in, they'll eventually become ambidextrous, just like if someone has sexual relations with someone they arent attracted to, they'll eventually be attracted to them, but the attraction will stop as as the relation stops, and be monosexual again
totallysickawesome 5 months ago
I love the message behind the It Get's Better project, but how can I support it when the man who founded it is so hateful to OVER HALF of the LGBTQ community (Savage has also made some transphobic comments, not to mention he thinks all questioning people are straight.)?
He sets our community back. Think about it-Savage started a compain to help kid's who are a part of a community that is supposed to be accepting, safe, understanding, and loving. He is none of these things to bi's or trans+.
FleetingWispsOfGlory 5 months ago
Study Shows that BisexualMen Exist, but that does not mean your attracted to both equally fact im bisexual so i know but i will never suck off Dan Savage he's ugly but he's a smart guy
FIGHTFANNERD3 5 months ago
I'm not sure why people are getting so upset. He clearly said he believes bisexuals exist, and he also said that a lot of gay people use it is a stepping stone for coming out. That is completely true, I was one of those people and I'm ashamed that I might have hurt real bisexuals. All his points were valid, and at no point did he deny the existence of bisexuality. He wasn't saying you choose to be bisexual, he said a lot of gay people choose to just say that they are. What's wrong with that?
AveryViper 5 months ago 6
Probably, the explanation for why Mr Savage obviously dislikes bisexuality (while having no problem with all kinds of sexual "deviation" on the other side) is annoyingly easy and might sound dumb, although it isn't: he must be a closeted bi himself. Quite so.
But sadly, his narrow-mindedness is hardly to be corrected because as i could see on the internet there is a plethora of cheering for this utterly narcissistic and hopelessly stupid "icon". Why do people always admire assholes, i ask?
soccerlover1980 5 months ago
Well I've been waiting 23 years to get over my Bi phase. Maybe in a few more years I will magically become gay or straight.
skyspiral77 5 months ago 42
@skyspiral77 exactly! I so agree w you. Im so sick of ppl telling me im confused or im going tru a phase -____- STRAIGHT PPL need to stay out of it.
NermaCausevic 3 months ago
@skyspiral77 I don't think he means all bisexuals are going through a phase, just that some for some gay are scared to be fully gay and even straight people that want to experiment use that identity when its not really them. after 23 years i don't think its a phase but when your young its might be more appealing even if its not who you are. I wished for a long time i was, but the reality is that I'm a lesbian, not bi. that dose not mean that you are not bi, just that i am not.
Fireflygamer 1 month ago
Well I've been waiting 23 years to get over my Bi phase. Maybe in a few more years I will magically become gay or straight.
skyspiral77 5 months ago
Bisexuality isn't a phase or the ability to ge between straight and gay. Some people do say their bi when they're not, perhaps because they're in denial or confused or because sexuality is a spectrum and you may identify as straight but find someone of the same gender attractive. However many people are just bisexual and are attracted to both genders at the same time. Its horrifying that some gay rights supporters think that being gay is real and okay but being bisexual isn't. It makes me sad :(
SkyStained 5 months ago
@SkyStained At no point in time did he say that it's just a phase. He said that for some people it is nothing more than a stepping stone - as was the case with him. At no point was it implied that this is always the case. At the end of the video he even clearly says, "Yes, bi people exist." Stop being horrified or sad. Everything is okay!
wingsofindifference 5 months ago
even if you are bi, you are probably going to settle down with one person at some point. During that relationship being bi is probably going to be a fairly moot point for the most part. according to how I understand the Kinsey report, most people are bi to some degree. when I was a kid, I wanted to be bi, but I knew it was a lie since I have no interest in women.
roopj002 6 months ago
This guy is so rape-y in his attitude to people who don't share his loose sexual morality. Sex is basically animalistic and pathetic (like violence). Deal with it.
TerryMalick 6 months ago
it's all about what you feel comfortable calling yourself. I use to say i was bi then i realized that i'm actually a lesbian because i don't want to be in a relationship with a man, it just doesn't make sense to me and it kind of grosses me out. i feel more comfortable saying i'm gay than i did bi. not that being bi isn't real it is. i use to get mad at him but now i'm biting my tongue! he was right on some level or at least about me! again not all bis end up gay or straight some truly are bi!
sillykatz 6 months ago in playlist Dan Savage 3
I'm bisexual but I prefer women, only because I've lost my trust for men. But I do find them attractive as much as women.
SexyRaww 6 months ago
@SexyRaww You lost your trust for men because you are nothing but a cheater.
uky1985 4 weeks ago
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TreatyOfTripoli 6 months ago
oh blow me savage.....FUUUUCK YOU
bluefox4000 6 months ago
Holy shit everybody, hes just making his point. this is his opinion, and if you dont like it, then dont watch it. If you watch it, then bitch about it, it just proves you have nothing better to do with your time but complain about things that arent going to change.
SoliderOfTheOddLife 6 months ago
You know what's funny is this dirty faggot thinks he's actually being a turn on when he talks about his grotesque dick that has been up men's shitty assholes for decades. VOMIT!
TruthSpeaker1010 6 months ago
@TruthSpeaker1010 Wow....are you a closet case, a militant fag, a homophobe or just a troll?
pseudonym32 6 months ago
What a fucking disgusting fucking pervert embarrassment. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU PIG! He is an embarrassment to gays everywhere. Fucking deviant.
TruthSpeaker1010 6 months ago
Here, let me tell you the truth about faggots. They love young boys and are pedophiles just like straight men. Yes, that's the truth.
TruthSpeaker1010 6 months ago
What the fuck does this inarticulate white hypocrite faggot know about bisexuality? Please shut the fuck you piece of hypocritical misogynist shit. "Boohoooooo I'm a faggot I don't have the right to marry, where's my white Irish privilege?!!!" This guy is so full of disgusting hate of women b/c he doesn't have a vagina. This 55 yo asshole retard "sex columnist" hacks off people who are smart & repeats it. Wow dude, how white of you. What a fucking hack.
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chiodo113 6 months ago
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chiodo113 6 months ago
Kinsey Scale. People slide around it like an ice rink. Stop worrying people just do whatever you want and dun worry about gender. Whatever turns you on xD
...should be a Kinsey bush now....
Darthmas2242 6 months ago
And is Dan assuming that just because you're bisexual and you date someone of the opposite sex,that you stop being bisexual? What a fuck nugget. Dan, sure it's a phase for some people. But it's not for everyone. Some identify as such as a steping stone to come out as gay, but many are legitimately bisexual. So are those people fakers and non-existant? Just because I date someone of the opposite sex, it doesn't mean I stop having feelings for people of the same sex.
TheElectricDreamer93 6 months ago
i don't understand why people insist on berating dan savage for his "biphobia" when i found there was no language in this video that could even be perceived as phobic, or hateful... dan is first and foremost a realist on issues concerning sexuality, and if people don't realize that what he's saying is truthful: many gays, myself included, come out as bisexual and later develop or realize that out sexuality is much "gayer" on the spectrum... he says right off bisexuality exists so
riidzxcv 6 months ago 3
i'm pretty sure he said for many its a phase. god we're on the cusp of something epic stop hating people for mistakes! he may be wrong about some things but jesus christ love the guy for doing what he does and for trying.
all you bi people cry while you don't even understand people with intersex conditions. they don't even have a true place within the LGBT community atm
take a moment and appreciate the fact that gays can marry in NY now.
x3somevanillasex 6 months ago
fuck you dan savage. i'm bisexual. i tried being 100% gay for a month. didn't work out. bisexuality exists mmk?
drummerchick435 6 months ago 6
@drummerchick435 Yes, and he says that twice. He just also happens to say that it is a phase for a lot of people.
exaserbate 6 months ago
@exaserbate He should have made it more clear then.
drummerchick435 6 months ago
@drummerchick435 He never says its doesn't exist. It just so happens that when a lot of people come out, its easier to say "I'm Bi" over being just gay. I know that's how i went through all of high-school and my freshman year of college. So, of course bisexuality exists, but there is a big asterisk by the number of bisexuals.
pseudonym32 6 months ago 4
I don't get it. He said he thinks it exists, he says how most people who identify as bi use it as a stepping stone, he says how most do end up in opposite sex relationships, all of which are true. I was about to rant on this video from seeing the comments but after watching it, I don't see why people are so mad at him.
thedementedpianist 6 months ago
Ok so duude. I except your opinion, But i mean really. Bisexuallity doesnt mean bi's like both genders equally. It just means we are attracted to both. And not completely gay. Obviously you werent bi. YOU. Were confused.
ScenebeasyxX 6 months ago
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AirplaneRadio 6 months ago
Fuck you, Dan Savage. You should fucking know better.
AkiKaza3829 6 months ago 2
As a bisexual I say fuck you to Dan Savage.
Killur10 6 months ago 6
In my opinion, bisexuals are twice as likely to cheat. That's why I'll never date a bisexual.
EliteDarknessScyther 6 months ago
@EliteDarknessScyther Well, thankfully, that's just your opinion and not a proven fact. I'm gay but I'd defnitely date or spend the rest of my life with a bi guy if we were compatible.
AlxMar5 6 months ago
Yet you make no mention of people who indeed identify as bi with the certainty that you do as gay. Instead of properly answering the question, you rant about how many poeple use it as a temporary label without acknowledging the presence of bi people in the LGBT community.
AlxMar5 6 months ago
@AlxMar5 I guess you missed the part where he said "Yes, they exist" at the very end? It seems that most people are missing this part too.
wingsofindifference 6 months ago
@wingsofindifference I never said he dismisses the existence of bi people. I said that he should be doing a better job representing them instead of using the popular theory that bi people are confused gay or straight people. To me it sounds more like the equivalent of saying "yes, gay people exist, BUT many of them are confused and actually straight". I don't think Dan would let a comment like that just pass without some scrutiny and I certainly wouldn't.
AlxMar5 6 months ago
Here's what I got from what he was saying here...
1) Lots of young people who identify as bi are actually gay/lesbian and by saying they were "bi" it was sort of a transition towards coming out. This was, at the very least, true in his own personal experience.
2) Lots of times bi people end up with partners of the opposite gender. And while they are still bisexual, they no longer are directly affected by any of the legal and social oppression that other LBGT experience.
Settle down folks.
wingsofindifference 6 months ago 7
Dan, what the hell is wrong with you? How can you try to tell LGBTQ youth that it gets better, yet your history of being biphobic and transphobic is coming to light. How fucking dare you. Stop treating us like we're below you in the community. Just because you're gay, it doesn't mean you're better than the rest of us. We exist, and we are as loud as the G and L. We are NOT SILENT.
- Pansexual FTM Teen.
TheElectricDreamer93 6 months ago 6
@TheElectricDreamer93 Here here! Dan Savage is biphobic, no matter what he tries to say! How can he ask for the gay community to have equality then in the same breath slate the Bi community? Dan Savage you are a hypocrite and a tool!
justme6263 6 months ago
@justme6263 YES.
TheElectricDreamer93 6 months ago
Bisexuality isn't a box, it's a spectrum. Some lean more to the gay side, and others lean more to the straight side; or some are in the middle. It's fucking bullshit that we as bisexuals/pansexuals have to put up with hate from the straight community. It's more fucked up when we get it from people WITHIN the LGBT community. The B and the T are not fucking SILENT, stop acting like it is.
TheElectricDreamer93 7 months ago 81
@TheElectricDreamer93 THANK YOU!
alicewater2003 4 months ago
@alicewater2003 :)
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geppegep 3 months ago
@geppegep ???
TheElectricDreamer93 3 months ago
this is a bad opinion, mr. savage, and you should feel really bad.
marleysmithjones 7 months ago 6
He said that bisexuality is some high school thing that you grow out of. I identified as bisexual in middle school, in high school started identifying as lesbian for many years, and at age 24 went back to calling myself bisexual (or more specific, pansexual) again. Why? Because of douchebags like this. I was afraid to tell people that I liked more than one gender and then not being taken seriously.
Finntroll17 7 months ago 5