Personal favorite on this duet is Gedda, that being said Kaufmann and Hvorostrovsky are doing a great job with the duet. Like many here I have a favorite but you cannot call these voices terrible. Great job to both!
Not really.... the efforts of the tenor to sing "sul fiato" don't work... the voice is definitelly not free here, and is actually tied and placed to far back....
Piano singing is an art, which is necesseary for French Opera lyrique. And both singers don't know this art. Kaufmann can not sing piano. He is singing narrow but NOT piano! His voice is dark and sound not free. And they don't sing TOGETHER. In their version it's not an duet it's an duel.
Este dueto me emocionó. Acoge el espíritu de la obra de Bizet. Es agradable a la escucha y esto es suficiente para el oyente. Lo demás que quede para los odiosos críticos ortodoxos.
NON, NON, NON Malgré la magnifique voix de Kaufmann, ce n'est pas ça, pas du tout. Hvorostovsky se croit dans un opéra de Wagner. Et le chef ? A-t-il appris à diriger ????
His sound seems too constricted, the tenor of course. That technique will ruin his voice, and will require some surgery, as it happened with Pavaroti.
@lty2k84 Youre talking about things which you dont know nothing about them. Pavarotti had, beside from Carlo Bergonzi, one of the rock-solidest and perfectest technique ever! His technique was unique. Perfection! Kaufmann is also currently the best tenor. Why do think he became so much Engagements at the Met or in Vienna or Bayreuth and Salzburg? Because his voice is pure greatness. With his repertoire you need normally 4 tenors. He can sing nearly everything, Wagner, Puccini, Bizet...
@MrLoveopera We are basing our opinions. No need to be so harsh towards each other. Right? I do know what I am talking about, as you do too. We have different tastes, and just that.
Bizet fut généreux pour les chanteurs. Malheureusement, ces chanteurs n'ont rien à faire de sa générosité. Voilà l'école de chant moderne. Une question de goût.
Re DH's tongue position on certain notes (also JK's): Many, many good singers project a technique that according to pedagogy, just can't be right. For example, flutter tongue, jaw dropped too far back, chin tucked, etc. And many, many of them sing successfully for years. VERY much so. With sites like YouTube, and the many live broadcasts/recordings out there now, we have the chance to see and study these things not just with our ears, but our eyes. Use the knowledge!
Whenever I watch Hvorostovsky on youtube I can't help reading the comments and I get pissed off almost every time! People discussing how well or badly he interprets pieces or even his voice and technique... he's voice is not huge, he doesn't do this or that in the right way. Excuse me but to discuss such a greatness as Hvorostovsky one must be at LEAST on that level (I don't say more because no one is or will be) Who of you is on the level of Hvorostovsky or half way up there?
@harutuniananna criticize can everybody, but almost nobody can sing like Hvorostovsky :) but according to some comments on his singing one would think they would employ him only in an provincial theater if he is lucky enough , but he sings at the MET and similar houses with big success. are all these people listening to him deaf :)? the same with kaufmann and his critics.
I totaly agree with you!! I only recently discoverd mr Hvorostovsky and i just love his voice and his whole performance. I think mr Hvorostovsky is avery gifted man.
That is ignorant and illogical. If you are a master chef, and a person completely uneducated in cooking says your food is the most incredible she's ever tasted, it means nothing because the person has no education or credentials by which to measure the true value of what you've done. As an amateur, you have no more right to declare his "greatness" than I do his lack of greatness.
@jaketaz I'm not sure I understand your explanation... so you mean that you're educated or professional enough to declare that he hasn't the greatness, which he actually has? Who has give you the right? - and don't say that it is your opinion, it has nothing to do with an "opinion" when you set it up as a "fact". And who did ever tell you that I am an amateur?
I never said anything about whether he is great. I said that it makes no sense for you to say that only someone on his level can say he's not great, and yet you (who are not on his level) have the right to say that he IS great. It's completely contradictory. It's stupid to say no one gave me the right to say he isn't great, because no one gave you the right to say that he IS great.
@jaketaz I never said only people on his level can say he's not great because people on that level will never say such stupidity. What I meant was who are you to decide whether he's great or not?
Of course I'm not on his level, only that gives me no right to critisize him because I have a LONG way to go to get there, which a lot of people dare to do! It's not contradictory when I'm the one who learns from him and not the other way round too. So you won't go anywhere with me with your philosophy!
If you can say what is good, then you can say what is bad. That means that I can say what is good, and what is bad. You believe you have the right to make statements about how good he is, and I believe I have the same right, because I do.
FRIENDS OF MINE TELL ME HE WILL NOT SING OTELLO FOR MANY YEARS AND THEY ARE IN THE LOOP! HE WILL SING LESCAUT IN A FEW YEARS. I WOULD CONSIDER HIM A SPINTO, BUT NO--MANY SAY A LYRIC SPINTO?? SOUNDS VERY SPINTO TO ME WITH DRAMATIC COLOR.
@8X8 Ma Verick8X8 I have heard Hvrostovsky in the opera house, you asked about size of voice, well his voice is not a really a big voice like Warren or Mac Neil (who I heard also) but was easily heard in the very large Chicago house.
Very interesting to hear a dramatic spinto voice like Kaufmann sing this as with Bjorling/Merrill whose voices matched so well. This has great Blend which I like . Kaufmann is an excellent singer who manages to scale it down and be lyric in spite of his dark sound. I heard Tucker do it in English, a live Rec. 1946 with Weede, later with Merrill in 1973 live, but his blend would have been even greater with Warren who was more dramatic like RT. Merrill was so beautiful and lyric with Bjorling
In the first 2/3, they really deliver the gentle introspection the duet needs. It's a reverie of friends emotionally parted for the first time by a beautiful woman who also = priestess Too many singers bawl it all out like steers lowing for feed. Interesting that JK's eyes flick to the score so much; in the house, probably not noticeable. Neither, probably, is their physical stiffness: the camera curses here as well as helps. Can't help wondering how much rehearsal there was for this ...
@dbpower43 Don't get me wrong, they both sang beautifully. It's just that, despite one being a tenor and one a baritone, to the ear their voices don't provide enough contrast. Towards the end it sounded almost like one voice where I expect to hear two. I'm German and love to see Kaufmann doing so well and I would hate to see him chose anything but the best parts for his voice.
@bloedel123 That's a very interesting analysis. I think one could argue that there voices being so similar in timbre as well as overall depth and quality make them a perfect match to sing this duet. Especially when they are singing together, I think they achieve an almost choral-like blend while maintaining the dramatic intensity of opera. But I appreciate your comment. It made me go back and listen once more with a different set of ears, which is great practice for any musician.
@dbpower43 Yes, I had also considered looking at it the way you do, but in the end decided it is not what I expect from a duet. I need to hear two distinct voices, which are different yet compliment one another.
@bloedel123 Yeah it's tough. At the end especially I was noticing how tense they both were and it came out in the singing. They're great voices, and hearing them together is great. Better than two bad singers put together for a duet, but stylistically, it's not a complimentary arrangement. Whether that's interpretation and the two could do it better if they rethought it or not... who knows?
some of you may not realize: but Kaufmann is a dramanic tenor which carries many baritone qualities as well as ability to obtain the high notes with a more heavy approach then the lyric tenor.
esto es BIZET, y no VERDI, señores, la voz de Kauffmann en este duo es improcedente, va totalmente engolado... KRAUS-McDANIEL . ó BJÖRLIN-MERREIL, DOS EJEMPLOS DE VOCES MAGNÍFICAS Y ADECUADAS , PARA ESTE BELLÍSIMO DUO
Et pourtant c'est très bon ténor, Kauffmann, et je vais l'écouter à la salle Pleyel avec plaisir! Quant à Dimitri il est magnifique! Il avait 29 ans quand je l'écouté pour la premier fois. C'est l’un des plus grands barytones de notre époque. On sera ravi de l'écouter le 21 mai 2012 au théâtre du Châtelet à Paris. Merci à tour les deux.
Exotique, certes, mais idoine au style français, pas du tout. Une fois de plus, je ne parviens pas à adhérer à l'admiration générale pour la voix de Jonas Kaufmann qui, à mes oreilles, sonne comme celle d'un vieux ténor; métallique et engorgée. Et le tempo est soporifique.
Hvorostovsky sounds great but Kaufmann's voice is too dark and covered. Also he is unable to sustain the line comfortably. This needs a much brighter, more forward voice than Kaufmann shows here.
I was trying to put my finger on why Kaufman's voice seems strange, i suspect he is trying to lighten up to play the part and is ending up sounding a bit like kermit. I'm now trying to imagine Giacomini (see 'si pel ciel) singing this!
should be a light tenor with a big baritone. bryn terfel and andrea bocelli have a nice version.
Yes the tempo is way too slow, and I dream of Rolando Villazon in this part instead of Jonas Kaufmann. But anyway thank you very much for posting this gem!
@Luck1au Ironically, you are the one who seems to need a life, or you would not have such a neurotic reaction to a simple statement. And yeah, some people prefer greatness to mediocrity, even when mediocrity has a later calendar date.
Warum tut sich das Hvorostovsky nur an? Kaufmann hoert sich hier, wie ein mit dem Bauch nach oben liegender Fisch im Aquarium an, der nach der letzten Luft schnappt, nach dem die Sauerstoffpumpe ueber Nacht ausfiel!
Kaufmann è sempre stupefacente...qualunque cosa canti...ne sono ammaliato...un canto sensato, tecnicamente ferratissimo, il colore è stupendo (e la si smetta di dire che è un baritono!!!E' un tenore con una voce meravigliosamente virile con uno squillo da sballo!!!Per carità!).Hvorostovsky è altrettanto superlativo! Grazie a chi ha messo questo video!!
Strange to hear two baritones singing this duet ..... Kaufmann is technically just a high baritone. Sometimes he sounds extremely beautiful in the tenor repertoire, but in this duet he struggled with the top notes and it was not a beautiful sound at all. I have to say that Bjorling and Merrill remain the kings of the tenor/baritone duet recordings.
@MrAndredekock Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the classification of a singer purely based on their range and not the colour of their voice? Kaufman quite easily soars up to the a C! I cant say I know many Baritones go up to that height! Sure he has a lot of baritonal quality to his voice but can you really call him that when he is performing so many huge tenor roles in opera at the moment?
@MrAndredekock you're perfecly right. Sometimes if you don't look at the video, you don't know who is singing, the tenor or the baryton. I agree too about Björling and Merrill, of course !
I must say I don't find it so exciting how DH "loves the camera" instead of expressing what he's singing about, and JK pulls his voice far too much into his throat, but in the passages they sing together they do have an amazing sound, mostly because DH manages to blend so well, never covering the tenor without ever disappearing, whispering or groveling as so many baritones do in this duet. And JK doesn't shout him out (to be a little evil, I don't think he could). Overall quite enjoyable.
A mi me encantan estos dos cantantes, aunque sus voces se asemejan bastante, pienso que ambos tienen una imponente voz dificil de igualar...me gustan mucho!
Por lo visto aca se despliegan muchos comentarios a favor y en contra....lo importante es que hablen, bien o mal....
This, along with the "Forza" duet from the same concert, is my favorite Jonas YouTube live concert snippet; thank you soo much for posting it! He Hvorotstovsky complement one another so well vocally (and clearly enjoy the collaboration!) The feeling Jonas puts into his singing is so palpable, even in a mega-event setting like this. Also, he can go from soft and sweet to full-force fortissimo so fabulously. Plus, the slow tempo of this version really draws out the full beauty of the duet.
Gracias a quien haya colgado este concierto, qué maravilla que este medio me dé la oportunidad de escucharlos desde estas lejanas tierras donde es muy dificil que ellos vengan a canta. Vivo en Lima, Peru, tierra de Juan Diego Flores.
PARTE 1ª: Interpretación muy interesante, aunque las características vocales de Kaufmann (que, como casi siempre, está bastante correcto y canta con gusto) impiden el juego de dinámicas tan acentuado que el dúo requiere. En mi modesta opinión, para sacarle todo el jugo a esta pieza es necesario que se de un juego de contrastes muy marcado entre la voz del tenor (que debe ser mucho más lírica que la de Kaufmann) y el barítono.
PARTE 2ª: Hay dos excelentes ejemplos de lo que digo en las interpretaciones de Björling-Merrill y Kraus-B. MacDaniel. La de Vanzo-Bacquier también podría valer para ejemplificar lo que quiero decir. Todas ellas pueden encontrarse aquí, en Youtube.
He aqui a dos magnificos cantantes...Kaufmann y Hvorovstovsky, que ademas de tener voces excelentes, poseen una galanura y atractivo que seduce....¡¡un deleite al oido y a la vista!!
This is an excellent performance but does not erease or surpass the performances of Gigli/De Luca and Bjoerling /Merrill which IMO are even more suave and the voices IMO more beautiful..
That's the epitome of the actually two best male voices of the world! Jonas is simply the best; hope he has enough time in business to take care of his voice (compared with Rolando, who has lost his...) and Dmitri is the best since a decade or even more! The two together: amazing! Thank you for having posted this!
Creo que es una interpretación de ambos de lo mejor, pero los pondría en duda contra un Enrico Caruso y un Titta Ruffo Cafiero que para mi gusto fueron los mejores. Kaufmann tiene una excelente voz de spinto, pero tiene la flexibilidad para cantar obras románticas como pescadores. Dimitri es inigualable hoy día.
Thank you so much for posting this! Is this concert on DVD? Incredible combination...IMO Dmitri is the best baritone I've ever heard and my listening experience goes back to the late 1950's. Kaufman was and is a beautiful voice. Again thank you!
@EddieJJ Have you heard Hvorostovsky live? His voice is, of course, beautiful, but I've been told it's small in the house, especially perhaps for some of his repertoire. I'd like to learn more about that.
I love Kaufmann and think he is an artist par excellance.
However, in this clip he seems to be lost in Hvorostovsky's voice, as if he can't find his own sound.His normally lustrous top end is gone and his lower notes are swallowed. If you close your eyes and listen, towards the middle of the song, you can't really tell who which one is singing.
@our2howdy - Have to agree, though I like Kaufmann, This one is not for me. I like the one ROBERTO ALAGNA: PEARL FISHERS DUET "AU FOND DU TEMPLE SAINT" with Mr. Schaidenbrand.
will everyone PLEASE stop talking about the 'good old days' of singing. There are only 'good old days' in hinesight, and you most likely werent even there.
Sadness..... I have heard Kaufmann deliver some really goodd singing. And then this.... Strained, hollow.... It's like he is singing with three different voices....
I agree with Operasinger 91's commentary. J.Kaufmann sounds tired or poorly rehearsed in this duet. But anyway those 2 goodlooking men are good to be heard. Alguso
I would say that you are the one who is tone deaf as we dont have a singel voice today which can even be compared to the singers of the past. Sadly, the art of bel canto seems to be forgoten. But i agree with Luck1au, the singers of today are better actors and so on.
@ForAll23 Am I reading you right: Gay men have no balls? Whether Hvorostovsky - or indeed Kaufmann - is gay or not, I do not know, but I should think they'd have four between them, no more, no less.
Je suis un fan de Hvorostovsky et je conseille à tous son disque d'airs italiens ( où il donne un si bémol à faire enrager certains ténors...), mais là, je dois dire que son français est inaudible. Kaufman prononce bien mieux mais j'ai toujours autant de mal avec son émission fluctuante, de très beau à très laid; étrange. Pour une leçon extraordinaire de style et de contrôle vocal, voir VANZO / BACQUIER.
People, how can you even think about discussing Hvorostovsky's voice? His voice is a gift from heaven to the human race! So if you cannot just enjoy it at least be quite!
@GERMANYFrankie I've heard Kaufmann sing other songs and sound wonderful, but to make such a huge change and be this throaty...could be the end of his career if it doesn't change soon
@Operasinger91 I was thinking just the same thing. I have heard a wonderful recording of "In fernem Land", Lohengrin, Bayreuth 2010, where he sounds absolutely mesmerizing. And now this! Throaty, strained, insecure intonation, no power (and no match for Hvorostovsky). I hope he's not taking on too much as I have enjoyed his work so far.
I really do love Hvorostovsky's sound, but I just can't get over Kaufmann...I've never heard a tenor sooo throaty! It just sounds weird in my opinion - like his tongue is almost caught in the back of his throat at some parts...at other parts I love his sound, but normally I just don't like his tone. But again, just my opinion.
@Operasinger91 ...? You did? I sure didn't see anything close to my comment from you - the only one I'm seeing is that you've never heard a more beautiful Baritone. And my comment was made long before yours.
DH is totally impressing! The sound, so equal all through. A voice that carries effortless!
JK - hmmmm..... Maybe this is not really his home street? I think he is a great singer, but here he is setting the notes in an awkeard way. I feel pressure....
Hvorostovsky & Kaufmann do a fine job, however, on this recording, Hvorostovsky shines with much more resonance. Kaufmann sounds a bit insubstantial in comparison, and together Hvorostovsky seems much more solid. I've heard earlier recordings of Kaufmann, they were more resonant without the "beats" in the voice and obvious tension. Perhaps Jonas needs to take some pressure off the chords. I do like his sound though - beautiful!
they picked the wrong aria,especially for kaufmann.......
don't get me wrong,they're both great singers but maybe not in this aria.
this aria meant for lyric tenors..
ka2shi7 10 hours ago
Personal favorite on this duet is Gedda, that being said Kaufmann and Hvorostrovsky are doing a great job with the duet. Like many here I have a favorite but you cannot call these voices terrible. Great job to both!
Watermage87 5 days ago
Awful !! Kaufmann is dreadful and Hvorostovsky just bellows
dziady1 1 week ago
How I wish I were 30 years younger. That goes for both of them and their voices!
phoenix4165 1 week ago
Not really.... the efforts of the tenor to sing "sul fiato" don't work... the voice is definitelly not free here, and is actually tied and placed to far back....
colonia3059 1 week ago
too slow and sleepy
bramoditrionfar 2 weeks ago
two great artists one great aria,
tatters1232006 4 weeks ago
Piano singing is an art, which is necesseary for French Opera lyrique. And both singers don't know this art. Kaufmann can not sing piano. He is singing narrow but NOT piano! His voice is dark and sound not free. And they don't sing TOGETHER. In their version it's not an duet it's an duel.
Fliegenfaenger11 1 month ago
AMAZING!!!!!! WONDERFUL!!!!!! CONGRATULATION!!!!!
One great tenor, and one great baritone! :))) COOOOOOOL!!!! BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVIIIIIIIIIIII!
victoriusBP 1 month ago
Bravo!!
mufasa2823 1 month ago
great tenor + great bariton + great duet = priceless
roloro220392 1 month ago 2
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roloro220392 1 month ago
BRAVO::!!!
corzoidor 1 month ago
Bravo Jonas!!!!!!!!
Siegmund96 2 months ago
Este dueto me emocionó. Acoge el espíritu de la obra de Bizet. Es agradable a la escucha y esto es suficiente para el oyente. Lo demás que quede para los odiosos críticos ortodoxos.
jesusmaful 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
Kaufmann ist leider kein ebenbürtiger Partner des grandiosen Hvorovskij
Mr27111922 2 months ago
One of the most beautifull duetos I've ever heard. Thanks for placing the text in french. Very well sung. Alguso
alguso 2 months ago
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corzoidor 2 months ago
NON, NON, NON Malgré la magnifique voix de Kaufmann, ce n'est pas ça, pas du tout. Hvorostovsky se croit dans un opéra de Wagner. Et le chef ? A-t-il appris à diriger ????
Allez écouter ALAGNA et TERFEL, 10 000 fois mieux
GerarddeToulouse 2 months ago
@GerarddeToulouse ...Better with No-Alagna tenor!
corzoidor 1 month ago
wow ...le sourire de Dmitri....
operafy 2 months ago
His sound seems too constricted, the tenor of course. That technique will ruin his voice, and will require some surgery, as it happened with Pavaroti.
lty2k84 2 months ago
@lty2k84 Youre talking about things which you dont know nothing about them. Pavarotti had, beside from Carlo Bergonzi, one of the rock-solidest and perfectest technique ever! His technique was unique. Perfection! Kaufmann is also currently the best tenor. Why do think he became so much Engagements at the Met or in Vienna or Bayreuth and Salzburg? Because his voice is pure greatness. With his repertoire you need normally 4 tenors. He can sing nearly everything, Wagner, Puccini, Bizet...
MrLoveopera 2 months ago
@MrLoveopera We are basing our opinions. No need to be so harsh towards each other. Right? I do know what I am talking about, as you do too. We have different tastes, and just that.
lty2k84 2 months ago
Bizet fut généreux pour les chanteurs. Malheureusement, ces chanteurs n'ont rien à faire de sa générosité. Voilà l'école de chant moderne. Une question de goût.
vautour23 2 months ago
the best version i have heard of this.
NourNZ 3 months ago 2
Re DH's tongue position on certain notes (also JK's): Many, many good singers project a technique that according to pedagogy, just can't be right. For example, flutter tongue, jaw dropped too far back, chin tucked, etc. And many, many of them sing successfully for years. VERY much so. With sites like YouTube, and the many live broadcasts/recordings out there now, we have the chance to see and study these things not just with our ears, but our eyes. Use the knowledge!
14unionst 3 months ago
Whenever I watch Hvorostovsky on youtube I can't help reading the comments and I get pissed off almost every time! People discussing how well or badly he interprets pieces or even his voice and technique... he's voice is not huge, he doesn't do this or that in the right way. Excuse me but to discuss such a greatness as Hvorostovsky one must be at LEAST on that level (I don't say more because no one is or will be) Who of you is on the level of Hvorostovsky or half way up there?
harutuniananna 3 months ago 12
@harutuniananna criticize can everybody, but almost nobody can sing like Hvorostovsky :) but according to some comments on his singing one would think they would employ him only in an provincial theater if he is lucky enough , but he sings at the MET and similar houses with big success. are all these people listening to him deaf :)? the same with kaufmann and his critics.
eurydike 3 months ago
@eurydike Yea well I don't know... I just think that all these critics are very stupid and meaningless.
harutuniananna 3 months ago
@harutuniananna
I totaly agree with you!! I only recently discoverd mr Hvorostovsky and i just love his voice and his whole performance. I think mr Hvorostovsky is avery gifted man.
joke0257 2 months ago in playlist Dmitri Hvorostovsky
@harutuniananna
That is ignorant and illogical. If you are a master chef, and a person completely uneducated in cooking says your food is the most incredible she's ever tasted, it means nothing because the person has no education or credentials by which to measure the true value of what you've done. As an amateur, you have no more right to declare his "greatness" than I do his lack of greatness.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@jaketaz I'm not sure I understand your explanation... so you mean that you're educated or professional enough to declare that he hasn't the greatness, which he actually has? Who has give you the right? - and don't say that it is your opinion, it has nothing to do with an "opinion" when you set it up as a "fact". And who did ever tell you that I am an amateur?
harutuniananna 2 months ago
@harutuniananna
I never said anything about whether he is great. I said that it makes no sense for you to say that only someone on his level can say he's not great, and yet you (who are not on his level) have the right to say that he IS great. It's completely contradictory. It's stupid to say no one gave me the right to say he isn't great, because no one gave you the right to say that he IS great.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@jaketaz I never said only people on his level can say he's not great because people on that level will never say such stupidity. What I meant was who are you to decide whether he's great or not?
Of course I'm not on his level, only that gives me no right to critisize him because I have a LONG way to go to get there, which a lot of people dare to do! It's not contradictory when I'm the one who learns from him and not the other way round too. So you won't go anywhere with me with your philosophy!
harutuniananna 2 months ago
@harutuniananna
It's not philosophy, it's logic.
If you can say what is good, then you can say what is bad. That means that I can say what is good, and what is bad. You believe you have the right to make statements about how good he is, and I believe I have the same right, because I do.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@jaketaz And you still don't get anywhere with it. If you don't like him, what are you doing here?
harutuniananna 2 months ago
@harutuniananna
I never said I don't like him.
Sometimes I get somewhere with it, but that won't be happening this time.
Best of luck with your singing.
jaketaz 2 months ago
@harutuniananna cuz they're jelous
Milylily4Ever 1 month ago
@harutuniananna Well, don't read the dumb comments! :-)
henrycate 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
The two most gorgeous men in opera singing the most gorgeous music! THANK YOU for posting this!!!
KathrynARyder 3 months ago 2
FRIENDS OF MINE TELL ME HE WILL NOT SING OTELLO FOR MANY YEARS AND THEY ARE IN THE LOOP! HE WILL SING LESCAUT IN A FEW YEARS. I WOULD CONSIDER HIM A SPINTO, BUT NO--MANY SAY A LYRIC SPINTO?? SOUNDS VERY SPINTO TO ME WITH DRAMATIC COLOR.
SHICOFF1 4 months ago
Breathtakingly beautiful and an answer to anyone who claims we do not have great singers in the current era.
gaytenor 4 months ago 7
@8X8 Ma Verick8X8 I have heard Hvrostovsky in the opera house, you asked about size of voice, well his voice is not a really a big voice like Warren or Mac Neil (who I heard also) but was easily heard in the very large Chicago house.
SHICOFF1 4 months ago 2
Very interesting to hear a dramatic spinto voice like Kaufmann sing this as with Bjorling/Merrill whose voices matched so well. This has great Blend which I like . Kaufmann is an excellent singer who manages to scale it down and be lyric in spite of his dark sound. I heard Tucker do it in English, a live Rec. 1946 with Weede, later with Merrill in 1973 live, but his blend would have been even greater with Warren who was more dramatic like RT. Merrill was so beautiful and lyric with Bjorling
SHICOFF1 4 months ago
Me gusto bastante. El de jussi bjoerling y merril es mejor, pero..... este esta muy bien.
maragato23 4 months ago
In the first 2/3, they really deliver the gentle introspection the duet needs. It's a reverie of friends emotionally parted for the first time by a beautiful woman who also = priestess Too many singers bawl it all out like steers lowing for feed. Interesting that JK's eyes flick to the score so much; in the house, probably not noticeable. Neither, probably, is their physical stiffness: the camera curses here as well as helps. Can't help wondering how much rehearsal there was for this ...
Tarcisius53 4 months ago
Ils découvrent la partition et le texte où quoi?!?
Julientenor 4 months ago
Many thanks frufruJ.
Peace
Cali
MotoGuzziCali 4 months ago
Hi guys, does anyone know the conductor?
Peace
Cali
MotoGuzziCali 4 months ago
@MotoGuzziCali Constantine Orbelian
frufruJ 4 months ago
kaufmann could be a great zurga... :)
alexninko 4 months ago
@jofjonesboro And Bjorling and Merrill
nickbigd 4 months ago
Wow, not putting Kaufmann down or anything, but his voice sounds wimpy next to Hvorostovsky's. Hvorostovsky just has such a huge voice!
RowboCaup 4 months ago
Definitely prefer Kaufmann in the Walkure !!!
MrSjoback 4 months ago
I really wanted to like this. Two beautiful voices... but this wasn't working at all.
bloedel123 4 months ago 2
@bloedel123 Please elaborate. What made you feel this way?
dbpower43 4 months ago
@dbpower43 Don't get me wrong, they both sang beautifully. It's just that, despite one being a tenor and one a baritone, to the ear their voices don't provide enough contrast. Towards the end it sounded almost like one voice where I expect to hear two. I'm German and love to see Kaufmann doing so well and I would hate to see him chose anything but the best parts for his voice.
bloedel123 4 months ago
@bloedel123 That's a very interesting analysis. I think one could argue that there voices being so similar in timbre as well as overall depth and quality make them a perfect match to sing this duet. Especially when they are singing together, I think they achieve an almost choral-like blend while maintaining the dramatic intensity of opera. But I appreciate your comment. It made me go back and listen once more with a different set of ears, which is great practice for any musician.
dbpower43 4 months ago
@dbpower43 Yes, I had also considered looking at it the way you do, but in the end decided it is not what I expect from a duet. I need to hear two distinct voices, which are different yet compliment one another.
bloedel123 4 months ago
@bloedel123 (cough) It might be even better if they complemented one another instead.
bloedel123 4 months ago
you are so right ! they sound as if they are singing two solos instead of one duet. (cough) :)
telemann11 3 months ago
@bloedel123 Yeah it's tough. At the end especially I was noticing how tense they both were and it came out in the singing. They're great voices, and hearing them together is great. Better than two bad singers put together for a duet, but stylistically, it's not a complimentary arrangement. Whether that's interpretation and the two could do it better if they rethought it or not... who knows?
8x8MaVerick8x8 4 months ago
Two beautiful men singing great, beautiful music!
mensabs 4 months ago
some of you may not realize: but Kaufmann is a dramanic tenor which carries many baritone qualities as well as ability to obtain the high notes with a more heavy approach then the lyric tenor.
wljmrbill 4 months ago
They could probably switch parts and be fine!
baritonebynight 4 months ago
Hvorostovsky looks and sounds terrific. I don't like the tenor at all.
CandyHaleLinton 4 months ago
@jofjonesboro
I agree in the terfel/bocelli version there is far too much editing.
jamesgatward1985 5 months ago
Kuulostaa Björlingin&Merrillin ja Domingon&Villazonin jälkeen hieman takakireältä...
roadrunner27774 5 months ago
This tenor is dragging the tempo so much it has ruined it for me!
djhooten 5 months ago
I agree Baritanist, the throathy couple!
mark6230 5 months ago
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Kaufmann bad, bad, bad, even ridiculous. A disaster.
mark6230 5 months ago
Yes, the THROATY couple.
Baritanist 5 months ago
It seems a bit too slow for me, or maybe I'm getting old. Compare with Bjoerling and Merrill - the definitive version.
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tacfoley 5 months ago
esto es BIZET, y no VERDI, señores, la voz de Kauffmann en este duo es improcedente, va totalmente engolado... KRAUS-McDANIEL . ó BJÖRLIN-MERREIL, DOS EJEMPLOS DE VOCES MAGNÍFICAS Y ADECUADAS , PARA ESTE BELLÍSIMO DUO
Maripudelmonaco 6 months ago
The throath Duo....horrible!!!!
edmanetti 6 months ago
Et pourtant c'est très bon ténor, Kauffmann, et je vais l'écouter à la salle Pleyel avec plaisir! Quant à Dimitri il est magnifique! Il avait 29 ans quand je l'écouté pour la premier fois. C'est l’un des plus grands barytones de notre époque. On sera ravi de l'écouter le 21 mai 2012 au théâtre du Châtelet à Paris. Merci à tour les deux.
Mmorochka 6 months ago
Exotique, certes, mais idoine au style français, pas du tout. Une fois de plus, je ne parviens pas à adhérer à l'admiration générale pour la voix de Jonas Kaufmann qui, à mes oreilles, sonne comme celle d'un vieux ténor; métallique et engorgée. Et le tempo est soporifique.
bpicaud1 6 months ago 2
beh Kaufmann è orribile...... che schifo.....
franztenor 6 months ago
@franztenor di solito non lo direi...ma qui sembra che stia facendo un'auto-parodia
pipposback2 6 months ago 2
Дмитрий Хворостовский и Чарльз Кастроново поют божественно. Их хочется слушать и слушать. От их пения на душе становится очень хорошо.
13425613 6 months ago
Извините это поет не Чарльз Кастроново ,а Кауфман.Он поет с Дмитрием Хворостовским .Они поют божественно.
13425613 6 months ago 2
Hvorostovsky sounds great but Kaufmann's voice is too dark and covered. Also he is unable to sustain the line comfortably. This needs a much brighter, more forward voice than Kaufmann shows here.
UncleNathan 6 months ago
einfach herrlich diese beiden stimmen.....hoffentlich auch einmal auf cd
turriduful 6 months ago
Tempo-slow
Baritone-proper voice for the piece
Tenor-way too dark for this duet (could sing Otello)
TheMuerdago 6 months ago
@TheMuerdago
I was trying to put my finger on why Kaufman's voice seems strange, i suspect he is trying to lighten up to play the part and is ending up sounding a bit like kermit. I'm now trying to imagine Giacomini (see 'si pel ciel) singing this!
should be a light tenor with a big baritone. bryn terfel and andrea bocelli have a nice version.
jamesgatward1985 6 months ago
Yes, it is a bit slow, but who cares. Has anyone heard this one sung by Villazon and ...
better believe it.......Domingo in the baritone part?? Very interesting.
MyNatalie31 6 months ago
Yes the tempo is way too slow, and I dream of Rolando Villazon in this part instead of Jonas Kaufmann. But anyway thank you very much for posting this gem!
Odeceixelove 6 months ago
HEAVENLY VERSION: Matthew Polenzani & Simon Keenlyside.
harapalb100 6 months ago
Bedre kan det neppe gjøres. Overgår Jussi og Robert!
jan39able 6 months ago
@Luck1au Ironically, you are the one who seems to need a life, or you would not have such a neurotic reaction to a simple statement. And yeah, some people prefer greatness to mediocrity, even when mediocrity has a later calendar date.
saraberlin91 6 months ago
Wonderful duet, bravo!!!!! Dimitri and Jonas.... <3
sisifus100 7 months ago
Warum tut sich das Hvorostovsky nur an? Kaufmann hoert sich hier, wie ein mit dem Bauch nach oben liegender Fisch im Aquarium an, der nach der letzten Luft schnappt, nach dem die Sauerstoffpumpe ueber Nacht ausfiel!
GERMANYFrankie 7 months ago
@GERMANYFrankie
Neidisch?
Sylt1954 6 months ago
@Sylt1954 Keine Spur!
GERMANYFrankie 6 months ago
Few singers can sing falsetto beautifully - Kaufmann is not one of them. Hvorostovsky, on the other hand, sings this piece like a god.
zaninif 7 months ago
@zaninif I agree so much!
rabmirja 7 months ago
@zaninif I agree!
GERMANYFrankie 7 months ago
My favorite duet. God bless both men. Amazing talent.
sebastianpellegrene 7 months ago 2
Kaufmann è sempre stupefacente...qualunque cosa canti...ne sono ammaliato...un canto sensato, tecnicamente ferratissimo, il colore è stupendo (e la si smetta di dire che è un baritono!!!E' un tenore con una voce meravigliosamente virile con uno squillo da sballo!!!Per carità!).Hvorostovsky è altrettanto superlativo! Grazie a chi ha messo questo video!!
molismensis 7 months ago
Strange to hear two baritones singing this duet ..... Kaufmann is technically just a high baritone. Sometimes he sounds extremely beautiful in the tenor repertoire, but in this duet he struggled with the top notes and it was not a beautiful sound at all. I have to say that Bjorling and Merrill remain the kings of the tenor/baritone duet recordings.
MrAndredekock 7 months ago
@MrAndredekock Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the classification of a singer purely based on their range and not the colour of their voice? Kaufman quite easily soars up to the a C! I cant say I know many Baritones go up to that height! Sure he has a lot of baritonal quality to his voice but can you really call him that when he is performing so many huge tenor roles in opera at the moment?
nochain2011 7 months ago 2
@MrAndredekock you're perfecly right. Sometimes if you don't look at the video, you don't know who is singing, the tenor or the baryton. I agree too about Björling and Merrill, of course !
jefgong 7 months ago
I must say I don't find it so exciting how DH "loves the camera" instead of expressing what he's singing about, and JK pulls his voice far too much into his throat, but in the passages they sing together they do have an amazing sound, mostly because DH manages to blend so well, never covering the tenor without ever disappearing, whispering or groveling as so many baritones do in this duet. And JK doesn't shout him out (to be a little evil, I don't think he could). Overall quite enjoyable.
volkerysilvia 7 months ago 2
A mi me encantan estos dos cantantes, aunque sus voces se asemejan bastante, pienso que ambos tienen una imponente voz dificil de igualar...me gustan mucho!
Por lo visto aca se despliegan muchos comentarios a favor y en contra....lo importante es que hablen, bien o mal....
Jonas y Dmitri dos hermosos caballeros!!!
betylu18 8 months ago
Terrific duo !! But Bjorling and Merrill own this duet----the best it's ever been performed. Before anyone gets all amped up, it's my opinion.
snivelinjack 8 months ago
This, along with the "Forza" duet from the same concert, is my favorite Jonas YouTube live concert snippet; thank you soo much for posting it! He Hvorotstovsky complement one another so well vocally (and clearly enjoy the collaboration!) The feeling Jonas puts into his singing is so palpable, even in a mega-event setting like this. Also, he can go from soft and sweet to full-force fortissimo so fabulously. Plus, the slow tempo of this version really draws out the full beauty of the duet.
belqis777 8 months ago 2
Gracias a quien haya colgado este concierto, qué maravilla que este medio me dé la oportunidad de escucharlos desde estas lejanas tierras donde es muy dificil que ellos vengan a canta. Vivo en Lima, Peru, tierra de Juan Diego Flores.
abustossbb 8 months ago
PARTE 1ª: Interpretación muy interesante, aunque las características vocales de Kaufmann (que, como casi siempre, está bastante correcto y canta con gusto) impiden el juego de dinámicas tan acentuado que el dúo requiere. En mi modesta opinión, para sacarle todo el jugo a esta pieza es necesario que se de un juego de contrastes muy marcado entre la voz del tenor (que debe ser mucho más lírica que la de Kaufmann) y el barítono.
AlberichNibelungo 9 months ago
PARTE 2ª: Hay dos excelentes ejemplos de lo que digo en las interpretaciones de Björling-Merrill y Kraus-B. MacDaniel. La de Vanzo-Bacquier también podría valer para ejemplificar lo que quiero decir. Todas ellas pueden encontrarse aquí, en Youtube.
AlberichNibelungo 9 months ago
¡¡¡MAGNIFICO, MUY HERMOSO, DOS GRANDES DE LA LÍRICA ACTUAl!!! ¡¡¡BRAVO POR LOS DOS!!!. Gracias "frufruJ"
pieritlyon 9 months ago
uno de los duos mas hermosos de todo lo que se escribio para la opera, en dos hermosisimas voces y talentosos cantantes, muchas gracias!!!!
acitipo 9 months ago
He aqui a dos magnificos cantantes...Kaufmann y Hvorovstovsky, que ademas de tener voces excelentes, poseen una galanura y atractivo que seduce....¡¡un deleite al oido y a la vista!!
betylu18 9 months ago
@Luck1au
This is an excellent performance but does not erease or surpass the performances of Gigli/De Luca and Bjoerling /Merrill which IMO are even more suave and the voices IMO more beautiful..
65attila 10 months ago
That's the epitome of the actually two best male voices of the world! Jonas is simply the best; hope he has enough time in business to take care of his voice (compared with Rolando, who has lost his...) and Dmitri is the best since a decade or even more! The two together: amazing! Thank you for having posted this!
brunosilvershadow 10 months ago
Creo que es una interpretación de ambos de lo mejor, pero los pondría en duda contra un Enrico Caruso y un Titta Ruffo Cafiero que para mi gusto fueron los mejores. Kaufmann tiene una excelente voz de spinto, pero tiene la flexibilidad para cantar obras románticas como pescadores. Dimitri es inigualable hoy día.
Saludos desde San Luis Potosí, México
hugonegall 10 months ago
@hugonegall Por favor! estas hablando de cantantes de hace 100 años¿?¿?¿?
Te voy a decir que para mi estos superan a l muchisimos de los antiguos aunque sea Caruso!
acitipo 9 months ago
It's the duet that's beautiful. The singing is atrocious!
mrantiquedealer 10 months ago
omg
junehilde 10 months ago
Thank you so much for posting this! Is this concert on DVD? Incredible combination...IMO Dmitri is the best baritone I've ever heard and my listening experience goes back to the late 1950's. Kaufman was and is a beautiful voice. Again thank you!
EddieJJ 10 months ago 6
@EddieJJ Thank you for your comment and for subscribing. Unfortunately, this concert has not been released on DVD.
frufruJ 10 months ago
@EddieJJ Thanks for posting tose videos from this concert.
prince2000ful 9 months ago
@EddieJJ Have you heard Hvorostovsky live? His voice is, of course, beautiful, but I've been told it's small in the house, especially perhaps for some of his repertoire. I'd like to learn more about that.
8x8MaVerick8x8 4 months ago
Interesting that on the final high note Hvorostovsky pulls his tongue back.
8x8MaVerick8x8 4 months ago
omg. :34 weird. and why are their tongues black? were they kissing each other while sucking on a blue jolly rancher?
WorldCupSeoul 11 months ago
I love Kaufmann and think he is an artist par excellance.
However, in this clip he seems to be lost in Hvorostovsky's voice, as if he can't find his own sound.His normally lustrous top end is gone and his lower notes are swallowed. If you close your eyes and listen, towards the middle of the song, you can't really tell who which one is singing.
And the tempo's are funereal.
our2howdy 11 months ago 2
@our2howdy - Have to agree, though I like Kaufmann, This one is not for me. I like the one ROBERTO ALAGNA: PEARL FISHERS DUET "AU FOND DU TEMPLE SAINT" with Mr. Schaidenbrand.
adeeo 8 months ago
will everyone PLEASE stop talking about the 'good old days' of singing. There are only 'good old days' in hinesight, and you most likely werent even there.
Operaandchant90 11 months ago
Kaufman should have never moved into dramatic repertory.
Rodolpho262 1 year ago
Sadness..... I have heard Kaufmann deliver some really goodd singing. And then this.... Strained, hollow.... It's like he is singing with three different voices....
PEAinSwe 1 year ago
I agree with Operasinger 91's commentary. J.Kaufmann sounds tired or poorly rehearsed in this duet. But anyway those 2 goodlooking men are good to be heard. Alguso
alguso 1 year ago
I like!
elliebagshawe 1 year ago
Terrible, horrible....
rosaponselle2009 1 year ago
Whatever critics say, it is still superb!!!
sandrik100 1 year ago 2
@Luck1au
I would say that you are the one who is tone deaf as we dont have a singel voice today which can even be compared to the singers of the past. Sadly, the art of bel canto seems to be forgoten. But i agree with Luck1au, the singers of today are better actors and so on.
Ariero22 1 year ago
when i firt saw this title... i was like this is going to be EPIC!! two Huge voices
qwertyoop 1 year ago
@Luck1au I agree with you 100%.
Truisdfuif 1 year ago
this is a very pale performance. Kaufmann has a poor timbre here.
bourbakis 1 year ago
I don't know why I got the feeling they were competing instead of working together. Nonetheless they are two of my favorite singers of today.
rayclentchris 1 year ago
Kaufmann is a lovely tenor. However, these two men, have no balls when they sing this duet. Maybe it because of Hvorostovsky. Is he gay?
On the other hand, there are only a two who can sing this duet, so your hair stands on the arms, namely Jussi Björling & Robert Merrill.
Almost forgot, it's not just the hair that stands up.
ForAll23 1 year ago
@ForAll23 Am I reading you right: Gay men have no balls? Whether Hvorostovsky - or indeed Kaufmann - is gay or not, I do not know, but I should think they'd have four between them, no more, no less.
hardtimesincountry 1 year ago
@hardtimesincountry
You are probably right :-)
Actually I'm not so fond of my comment. I usually use my words in a more civilized
manner.
However I am, as you can imagine, less happy with this performance.
ForAll23 1 year ago
Can't these guys dress up a little for a concert?.... and shave?
gferrick 1 year ago
Can't these guys dress up a little for a concert?
gferrick 1 year ago
Another great find .. Not perfect duet -- but what is perfection ??
I am very impressed .. Bless them both . xx
YORKIEYORKYORK 1 year ago
Kauffman really sounds like a baritone
elotello 1 year ago
Oh wow! I didn't know there were so many damned experts on proper Italian singing technique commenting on Youtube videos. Oh wait! There aren't.
kgunby 1 year ago 2
If you think this is good, try listening to Gigli and DeLuca here on Youtube.
Matt75003 1 year ago
Je suis un fan de Hvorostovsky et je conseille à tous son disque d'airs italiens ( où il donne un si bémol à faire enrager certains ténors...), mais là, je dois dire que son français est inaudible. Kaufman prononce bien mieux mais j'ai toujours autant de mal avec son émission fluctuante, de très beau à très laid; étrange. Pour une leçon extraordinaire de style et de contrôle vocal, voir VANZO / BACQUIER.
bpicaud1 1 year ago 2
People, how can you even think about discussing Hvorostovsky's voice? His voice is a gift from heaven to the human race! So if you cannot just enjoy it at least be quite!
harutuniananna 1 year ago 2
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harutuniananna 1 year ago
How Kaufmann sings here is a shame for the entire german country!
He had such a good voice and changed his technique to a dark neck-voice, using all available muscles.
His teacher needs a punishment!
I'm not a professional singer but I sing this here much better!
GERMANYFrankie 1 year ago
@GERMANYFrankie I've heard Kaufmann sing other songs and sound wonderful, but to make such a huge change and be this throaty...could be the end of his career if it doesn't change soon
Operasinger91 1 year ago
@Operasinger91 I was thinking just the same thing. I have heard a wonderful recording of "In fernem Land", Lohengrin, Bayreuth 2010, where he sounds absolutely mesmerizing. And now this! Throaty, strained, insecure intonation, no power (and no match for Hvorostovsky). I hope he's not taking on too much as I have enjoyed his work so far.
hardtimesincountry 1 year ago
I've never heard a more beautiful baritone from 1:42-2:43. No doubt there it's ridiculous I can't stop listening
Operasinger91 1 year ago
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Operasinger91 1 year ago
i wonder if Kaufman would ever sing Tonio from La Fille du Rugiment
elotello 1 year ago
I really do love Hvorostovsky's sound, but I just can't get over Kaufmann...I've never heard a tenor sooo throaty! It just sounds weird in my opinion - like his tongue is almost caught in the back of his throat at some parts...at other parts I love his sound, but normally I just don't like his tone. But again, just my opinion.
PianistandFencer 1 year ago
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Operasinger91 1 year ago
@Operasinger91 ...? You did? I sure didn't see anything close to my comment from you - the only one I'm seeing is that you've never heard a more beautiful Baritone. And my comment was made long before yours.
PianistandFencer 1 year ago
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Operasinger91 1 year ago
I was lucky to see Dimitri at the met, spectacular
vivaverdi1 1 year ago
DH is totally impressing! The sound, so equal all through. A voice that carries effortless!
JK - hmmmm..... Maybe this is not really his home street? I think he is a great singer, but here he is setting the notes in an awkeard way. I feel pressure....
PEAinSwe 1 year ago
Hvorostovsky & Kaufmann do a fine job, however, on this recording, Hvorostovsky shines with much more resonance. Kaufmann sounds a bit insubstantial in comparison, and together Hvorostovsky seems much more solid. I've heard earlier recordings of Kaufmann, they were more resonant without the "beats" in the voice and obvious tension. Perhaps Jonas needs to take some pressure off the chords. I do like his sound though - beautiful!
twarren10r 1 year ago
I love how they held back at 2:32
calafsdream 1 year ago
fürchterliches Geknödel!
Wer hat JK diese schreckliche Technik(!!?????!!) beigebracht. es ist bei beiden nichts gestützt
Schade
lecksiekon 1 year ago
Bravo! Better and more emotional it can't be sung!!!
brunosilvershadow 1 year ago
2:02-2:50 is as good as any pearl fishers duet
ElSalvador50 1 year ago
No real spirit.
So far has no couple been able to achieve Jussi Björling and Robert Merrill´s high quality performance of this duet.
ForAll23 1 year ago
mamma mia, here are two opera divi Hvorostovsky and Kaufmann.
they are perfect, beautiful, splendid. i cannot tell anything anymore
harvinsky 1 year ago