@Packerd01 You'Re kidding right ? the guy that explain the tax break is making many mistakes. His logic is not working in reality. Example : Exxon Mobil in 2010 BECAUSE of tax break and tax lifting paid absolutely 0$ tax but actually got returns, because of tax break not the contrary.
@gunsite308 so using that logic Fed beat the Nazis and brought about the greatest economic expansion in wealth in history? and is responsible for the wealthiest nation on the planet???
The huckster bible thumpers never new how to be Christ like in the Least : { They are like filthy lucre in the treasury --scribes, pharisees and Sadducee collusion ; and their deeds hate Christ like deeds } { You Will no them by their leavened Ways } I say let the buyer be-ware :
@BarackObama : You are a ONE TERM president. Save the 2012 campaing money and start Fulfilling your promises. What are you waiting for... another supermajority in the legislative branch?
I am from Vermont and have voted for Bernie Sanders in every election he has run in! He is asking questions the rock dwellers cannot answer because they don't have an answer that will hold up in court! Watch the reptiles(starts with an R!) squirm while they look into their heads for a decent mistruth that will get him off their back?Amazing some of the performances they are putting on! DOUBLETALK! White man speak with forked tongue! Man those Indians must have gotten mad at us? NOT-LOL!
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Bernie, you’re a twisted freak of nature and it’s fitting that the twisted freak policies you ascribe to are the most time proven failures in the history of the world.
You are a thief and a loser as was your idol Karl Marx.
@Lentenlands I wish to hell all of you low IQ white trash red neck twits would just stay off of the internet . Go find videos of your iconic hero George Bush and leave the TRUTH to the thinking men and woman .
Bernie is a national treasure -- one of only a handful of people in congress that is actually looking out for the vast majority of Americans. If you enjoyed this, try looking up Noam Chomsky or John Perkins.
thezepp68, tuffishlover, and all the others who share their views--you just don't know enough about the subject to be making the statements you are. Frankly, it is obvious to any observer who reads and can think critically on a middle school level that you pull those opinions out of your a*@.
Al Franken uh uh uh um um, Sorry but this is distracting. He can't even read. It's like the Rob Schneider delivery guy character in "Big Daddy" " hipp pop hip pop potonumus!!! It's not fair he gets all the easy ones!!!!!"
Douchebag Sanders just sabotaged RP's effort to audit the Fed. He scratched provisions which expose the Open Market Committee and deals with foreign countries.
Video:
"Senate Sellout Threatens Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill"
We're probably bailing-out Socialist Greece (its private investors, actually), but thanks to Sanders we might never know how much.
Right and Bush giving each person 500 dollars helped so well we should keep doing it. and Bush was the one who started the bailout of corporations and banks with no stipulations to the money. I agree that did not work out well either. Reregulation and stipulations to that money that must be paid back is what I think should be done. Government has been hijacked by corporations. The people are no longer represented. Free trade is a joke and we better work together or we will never get it back
@cultfighter Just giving people money doesn't work, the Conservatives in Canada did it here and gave our rebates to people and than jacked up our taxes. The arbitrary checque in your mailbox has to come from somewhere
@cultfighter Its funny because those rebates were essentially bribes, and they worked. A large number of people sacrificed their rationality and threw ethical considerations to the wind because W. put 500 bucks in their pocket. It is truly sad.
The statement "librals hate this country" is idiotic to say the least. My instinct is to replace libral with conservative and a whole lot more people would agree with my statement because they are living through the Republican Recession. They see Republicans refuse to help fix their own mess as they vote NO in mass on every peice of legislation and hold up over 100 bills in the Senate. You teabaggers need to turn off FOX misinformation - back away from the TV and stop being such Beckerheads
I have to say as an outsider..looking at your nation, it is very clear that the public of the USA don't assign a particular party with the economic woes, rather they blame government giving special treatment to big businesses in exchange for them acting as proxies for government goals and aims.
Canada is doing far better then the USA is today because our banking system, was less regulated and the regulations in place were not for government purposes.
@Theelibralsfuck1 Actually no . I just fucked ypour mother because YOU can't get it up for her, gayboy She's coming over again tonight and we're running a train on her at her request HAHAHA
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liberals hate this country so much they wanna change it into a socialist one.. they believe in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.. they wanna take from those hard working citizens who make good money and 'share the wealth'.. and half of America is too stupid to realize it
wrong, even though im not a liberal, there not destorying this country at all. Large greedy bastards like corporations and Banks are destroying this country thanks to politcians selling them selves out to the american ppl
they are making us wait so long for healthcare reform and have bombarded us with so much media coverage that they have tired us. i'm just thinking i don't care anymore just pass something already. it is definitely the wrong attitude, but i am aware of this feeling.
like i said most of the left will not listen to reason they are to blind to alot the truth, the thumbs down on my comment only shows your own ignorance and that my comment it correct.
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All of you leftwingers are so confused , keep listening to theyoungturks anti-american bullshit. These people were not marching on washington to stop obama, they did it to stop big government. Us real americans are tired of being over taxed and not having a say as to what the government does with our money. I dont like the republicans or democrats in washington. they are all corrupt and if you dont think so you are only fooling yourselves. so keep giving me thumbs downs ignorant fools.
But conservatives are much angrier now as they were when Bush was in power. The two Bushes and Ronald Reagan presided over gigantic federal spending. Almost 3/4ths of the current deficit comes from spending by the last 3 Republican presidents.
As far as taxes go, 25% of George W. Bush's tax cuts went to the top 1% of income earners. Most of Obama's tax hikes are going to these people. Isn't it redistributing wealth to cut taxes more for the rich like Republicans do? So why the anger now?
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listen kid , stick with comedy and stay off politics cause you really dont know the facts or what your talking about. Check em cause its the truth that you wont hear from your douchebag left wing brainwashing college professors
Feel free to let emotion run your mouth. It just furthers my observation that extremists on the right suffer from a high functioning version of tourettes.
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lmao @ you, im really not extreme rite, just sick of young turks anti-american bullshit. You know what i am, not rite wing or left, im anti-big government pro-american freedom extreme!
The people that are runing this country and the people that own the federal reserve because it not us, Also, research the masons and freemasons exposed and you find the answers you seek
Well I do not know if you know but it is a secret society, so he would not tell you things that goes on, because he sore an oath of secrecy. The reason I know is that I have read things that former masons wrote about it and what actual masons said them, have you heard of Albert Pike or Aleister Crowley people that I do not think are upstanding people
Also, look things yourself, look up who own Federal Reserve and you will find out it is not America, and the truth is hard to swallow
You mention God twice in 2 sentences. If the Real Americans are the Glenn Beck fans who are protesting the government, and God has something to do with this, why did God let Barack Obama become president in the first place? Why did God chose for fake Americans to run the government?
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blah blah blah, young turks stfu, i am so sick of hearing your dribble. Move to fucking north korea, after all you want all their policies to be imposed here in the USA.
I agree convertibleboy! Why should our representatives get some balls and listen to us instead of trying to deal with the group of "NO", called the GOP! Just because they lost the election why shouldn't they get their way? They are the true PATRIOTS, aren't they? I know, us Obama supporters are stupid and let the government control our thoughts and our kids. We'll march like the North Koreans to show you how RIGHT you are! It's okay, watch Glenn Beck, he speaks your language.
no one is forcing you to watch TYT convertible. So why don't you pull your head out of your ass, and go watch some conservative run bullshit of a program.
Your GOP railed for up and down votes all the time. And they had a good point. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly you don't want a vote. Elections have consequences. Win some, and you'll have more of a voice.
You obviously don't understand what North Korea is all about (it's not actually Communist like you're implying, it's Totalitarian, but called a Communist government, and they call themselves The People's Republic).
Second of all, you're going out of your way to hear TYT, so if you don't want to hear it, it's pretty easy to avoid.
Americans do not want a single payer plan. The healthcare in the UK and Canada is terrible compared to the US. Most of the medical innovation happens in the US. Obama's plan would intentional slow medical innovation resulting in a greater number of unnecessary deaths among the elderly.
Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending. Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they're "associated with longer waits" and "reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices" (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). Of all the thousands of doctors he could have chosen as advisors, Obama picked Ezekiel Emanuel and David Blumenthal. Worry!
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel, is health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. Emanuel says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96).
Obama's chief healthcare advisors are promoting ideas that would have been welcomed by the Nazis. If you don't know why I say this, you are uninformed. Read some columns by Betsy McCaughey who has quoted them extensively. Both Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel and Dr. David Blumenthal think age discrimination is not evil and that old people should wait at the end of the line for medical care. They also think medical innovation should be slowed to save money.
If anyone wants to see how good the Canadian health care system is, see YouTube video watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw Crowder takes a video camera to the clinics and hospitals to find out what it is like to get health care in Canada. What a nightmare! Please see the video so you can learn for yourself. Healhcare is not just about the money. We want good healthcare, not long waits like in Canada.
The public option is not the same as single payer. But Obama plans to move from public option to single payer quickly. I know Obama has denied this, but he lies. See watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk If anyone wants to see how good the Canadian health care system is, see watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw Crowder takes a video camera to the clinics and hospitals to find out what it is like to get health care in Canada. What a nightmare! Please see the video so you can learn for yourself.
Hmmm I need to change my outlook on this. Either the public option passes like I want it to and I'm happy or it fails and I soften my disappointment with the money I could make by investing in the insurance companies at the same time that many people would sell stock in them.
You catch wild pigs by finding a place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
When I scan the viewer responses and see Bible quotations, I know we've fallen off the Health Care or Bernie Sanders topic. Can you guys take it to a religious blog?
How do you figure? My argument is that "public healthcare" is an expansion of the state, that the evidence of marxist subversion in our government is clearly visible to the trained eye and all of this reinforces and confirms scripture.
And my argument was do we let partisian politics, idiologies, dogma and irrational fear stand in the way of providing something as important as health care to our citizens, many of which would not , otherwise, be able to afford it.
The argument that a heath care bill that clearly usurps freedom of choice should be passed because some cannot afford health care is not credible. Government can, at any time set up shop for all those who cannot afford health care.
Cool, you are Pro-Choice, I didn't realize that. You are arguing that the bill that could offer a choice to 30 million Americans without health care usurps freedom of choice. As for those with health care, it would simply add another choice to the marketplace for those that would prefer it to their current provider.
The only way that happens is if it is so effective that everyone chooses it over the private sector plans. Slippery slope logic...that's like those that say it will "kill old people." Just another baseless argument to scare people into accepting the status quo.
Really? Then why does page 145, line 15-17 require all employers to enroll all new employees in the government system, no choice whatsoever? How about page 149, lines 16-24 imposing an 8% payroll tax penalty for any employer making over $400,000 who fails to force his employees onto government insurance? And page 167, lines 18-23 imposing a 2.5% income tax penalty on any privately-insured individual who fails to get "adequate" private insurance?
LOL if one more person quotes that bogus website I am going to scream...THIS IS NOT THE FINAL BILL, this is bogus...THESE ARE SCARE TACTICS, nothing more. I know people don't want to hear that because of pressure from the right as well as the millions daily that insurance companies are spending in order to misinform the public but at some point people need to wake up!!! I know fear and mistrust is rampant when the "other" party is in power but people need to think for themselves.
The issue is blanket mistrust, just like blanket trust is equally foolish. There are a number of sites who has either put up forms of the bill that are either outright lies or twisted the wording to the point of ridiculous. Saying things like the gov't will take money from peoples bank accounts when the sited paragraph is clearly referring to drafts insurance companies. Again, all this when a final bill hasn't been constructed yet.
Blanket mistrust? Have you watched the legislation rammed through Congress in just the last year? Not even read! Have you studied the history of Congress and the sheer number of times the American people were assured fears would never come to pass? They even put Communist goals - into the Congressional Record in 1963 and look how well that went! Do you have any idea the treason these schmucks have committed against the backdrop of the Constitution? Everything else is just a distraction!
I was saying the same thing with the Patriot Act...anyway the administration is in a no-win situation, if they move too fast people accuse them of sneaking in legislation and move too slow and they are accused of being inept. I'm sure they'd rather had taken their first 7 months off like the previous administration but it didn't work out that way.
We agree on the Patriot act, but as was noted by Ron Paul the bailout and stimulus bills were made available to congressman only hours before the vote. 1000's of pages these bills were impossible for anyone to have read! I remember Paul calling it a sad day in history after the last stimulus was passed in January. You are not aware this administration has an agenda they are pushing through at warp speed? Our government models after the marxist EU, in pushing bills, stimulus and harmonization.
That's what it says under "Goals for Financial and Administrative Transactions" Page 59 Where is it clearly referring to insurance companies? Show me!
God is always CONSISTENT with his character. He must always be just. He cannot be inconsistent with His character. He cannot tolerate evil in His presence.
"What fool would go along with these jokers when all they do is a cheap card trick"
I'm assuming of course that you are referring to the Republicans, a one-trick-pony cadre of hucksters if ever there was one. Their oft-repeated mantra of "let the market reign unfettered" is what has largely contributed to this mess. Bush's performance re: the economy was indefensibly deplorable. So by all means go on with your anti-Socialist rantings. Meanwhile, we'll be here trying to accomplish something.
I'm sure you are for what's mine is your and what's yours is yours right?
And what is it that you are accomplishing? Regime change? The greatest theft of the treasury and American public? The hijacking of the US Constitution by democrats and republicans alike? The allowance of a non-US Citizen to run for the presidency and win? Please enlighten us all!!!
"The allowance of a non-US Citizen to run for the presidency and win?"
Your tin foil hat is awfully shiny. Tell me, do you nuts get your talking points from the same place, or is there more than one drone that makes this stuff up for you?
"he's shown no one but a communist group his "certificate""
Plenty of people have seen it, including the Republican governor of Hawaii. So whether or not Obama is a citizen isn't a question open for debate--not that it ever was. But you knew this, of course. I know that it can be hard to accept that America elected a black man with a furen' soundin' name, but we at least try to cloak our racism a bit more these days than we did in the 50s.
"but a communist like yourself only thinks of himself."
LOL, seriously? Why do you even continue responding? You're like a lost sheep, just grasping at whatever spoon-fed talking points you can. Look, I'm sorry that we elected a black man as president, I know it must be hard for you. But really, I can see why you guys lost the election. Enjoy the next eight years of chasing conspiracy theories.
mn8aol, how many times are you going to copy and paste the same stolen-from-the-Republicans talking point? Get some new material, and an original thought.
Bernie Sanders is a cheap card trick who only wants to expand the state. Scam? It is government alone that has raised the cost of health care. Charlatan Sanders and government need to stop the semantic deception and call federal programs administered by the state what they are, call it "collectivist hospital plan" or "hospital care based on the soviet system" or "transformational marxist care."
If there was no conspiracy our government and media would not join Chavez, Castro and Ortega in returning Zelaya to power in Honduras. A clear case of a people defending their freedom and these charlatans who are always lauding "freedom" and "democracy" are in there trying to get this dictator back in power. Can you tell me what the Hegelian-Dialectic is and how it used to trespass boundaries both national and individual? Never in history have defenses left so many boundaries unguarded.
"It is government alone that has raised the cost of health care."
Are you suggesting that this is done through the FDA? Or by limiting the availability of foreign competition? I don't understand where you are going with this statement.
They have their hands in there distorting the market in every part of the industry whether it be direct influence or indirect influences like education, even the attack on traditional moral values over the last 40 years has played an important role in increased costs! Not mention government is the number one cause of inflation in our country. How do you call it foreign "competition" when the U.S. makes up the difference in what those country don't pay?
The foreign competition comment was a question, but your statement was largely off the mark when it comes to the effect of medicines on health care. It is widely known that medicines would be cheaper coming from Canada, which, by the way has a system of socialized medicine. But our laws prohibit US citizens from purchasing from Canadian vendors due largely to the fact that it would hurt sales here. Seems that the "free" market would be able to correct that without govt. interference.
Medicines are cheaper in Canada because they buy in quantity Wal-Mart style representing one buyer and the U.S. makes up the difference that drug companies have to have for Research and Development and regulation. A large share of the cost of drugs go to U.S. regulation. Canada benefits freely from the R & D & regulation that we pay for.
The same is true for medicines available here as well....Yes I'm aware they have a single payer plan similar to what is being debated here...with the generic medicines the R&D has already been done...we are paying for payouts, commercials and other marketing among other things.
I am well aware that Canada had socialized medicine. I also know that communists know that socialism is just a step to communism. I know that Stalin said that world dictatorship could be obtained through a victory of socialism of various countries and then creating regional unions, which is exactly what we see in the EU, South America and Africa. I know the intent of free trade and "climate change" is to create conditions that will require supranational legislation usurping our constitution.
Yawn....socialism is a step to communism and skittles are a step to crystal meth....these fear tactics and "slippery slope" arguments are just a distraction.
Countries working together for the common interests...that is just friggin scary...Very damaging to the ego and inflated self image that we have become so accustomed to.
Working for "common interests" is just the marxist way of trespassing boundaries through the Hegelian-Dialectic without having to resort to tanks. It is evil. You lose my respect from the start because I know the cowards don't dare come out and TELL the people what they are doing. So it is done by deception the same way the "common market" was sold to the EU, knowing it would lead to a supranational parliament that would then work toward usurping the sovereignty of the member nations.
Did we as a country consume a fraction of the drugs 50 years ago that we do today? Who creates the perception that we need a prescription drug for everything from the dubious "Attention Deficit Disorder" to sexual dysfunction. What, half the country is on anti-depressants? Why? Name the largest facilitator of public perception (aka "paradigm shift" ) in our country? Who funds changes in perception?
Those who have the most to gain...namely the drug companies....why else would they market their drugs on television and inform you to "ask your doctor if it's right for you" when many times they don't even tell you what it's for. The Drug and Insurance companies are the ones that "lose" with universal health care and a single payer system. We, as Americans will benefit. I know that is a frightening though to these corporate news hounds but they will survive as always.
Any notion that an ever expanding government is working in your interest that it might save you from the those evil corporations is mistaken. It is the same cheap card it has always been.
I know, I know...Corporations will one day become self regulating...that is a harder pill to swallow....maybe one day responsibility will positively affect the bottom line, but until that day government will have a role to play. I never said corporations were evil, they simply are "self perpetuating"...they exist to expand their bottom link and in this current era, irresponsibility is more feasible.
The STATE is self-perpetuating and exists to expand until every aspect of the lives of the people are controlled. Corporations merely work in tandem with the state to acheive that goal. You will be told where to live, where to work, you will in live in L.A., your children will live in Chicago and your wife will live in Atlanta and you will get together once a year for a couple of weeks. Your whole life will come under surveillence with lofty semantics like working for the "common good."
Don't get me wrong, I've heard about the CFR, the Global 2000 report, the Club of Rome, the Illuminati, the Builderburgers and the other apparatus, whether sinister or otherwise who are believed to be a party to the control apparatus ushering the New World Order. I am familiar with both sides of the argument and remain skeptical of the desires of both thoughtforms. I don't believe that we can sustain our current way of life, at the same time I don't believe, totalitarianism is the answer.
Or apparachic. Well that goes back to the Hegelian-Dialectic; not believing that we can sustain our current way of life. Transformational marxists work to change public perception, because the goal is get you to give up your rights. Surely you don't think the oil industry is stupid enough to make everything out plastic, if the planet is running out of oil? If you believe in God, then you know the future is sustainable. If you don't, well then these charlatans are going to play on your fears.
I don't think that believing in God and human sustainablilty are mutually exclusive. Species go extinct all the time. Again, my beliefs are different. As far as the oil companies go, they are about the bottom line, they will produce whatever is in their power to produce, that's why they are beginning to explore alternative fuels, sustainability. They want to be in position to control the next consumable product, whether hydrogen, electric or bio fuel.
Sorry, they want to be in position where they have all the Suburbans, Humvees and tanks and the rest of us are driving small electric cars. There is Saudi size oil (opened and capped) under the North Slope. Scientists are ever the prostitutes you make the oil companies out to be, they chase funding and there are few legitimate funding sources that exist today. I know the environmental crisis is deceit, because I have studied marxism and they were trying long before the 70's to fake a "crisis."
I understand your position, and I know about oil reserves here. Also I want you to realize that I wasn't letting scientists off the hook. Greed isn't limited to the oil companies. As far as it being a "fake" crisis, I believe that the motivations of those that seek complete power is manufactured. Just as small cancer or viral cells are able to destroy a much larger organic body, we too, are able to destroy a much larger earth. That may be my issue with religion, it colors us in many ways.
If you read scripture from a perspective of boundaries, good and evil, you will find that God has an amazing underlying order that few men see but none-the-less have followed unwittingly throughout history. What is happening today is that the defenses are being brought down all around the world and a trap is being setup for that cancer you are talking about.
The trap is that we have moved away from natural law and created an illusion of "happiness through materialism" We have either been stripped of, or in some cases willfully surrendered our understanding and replaced it with dogma. We have cut ourselves off from spirituality and received religion. All these things and more have led us to the point of self-destruction in that a reality built upon illusion has no stability or sustainablity.
Cities were walled and defended 4000 years ago long before science understood how antibodies act as a bodily defense. The trap is the creating the perception that all the nations of the world can let down their defenses. Materialism is a marxist concept at its root. They believe we all animals.
Reality doesn't begin with understanding. Even 4000 years ago, there were those that sought unyielding power and influence over others. It isn't about letting down defenses, it is about understanding that the way our psyche reacts to fear creates a reality where that fear is manifested.
Good and Evil are illusions....the reality is we either embody, thus act out of, love or fear. When we see ourselves as strictly material beings, yes fear creates situations where both boundaries and defenses are necessary. Understanding the Natural Order/Laws of God/The Tao renders that mindset obsolete. That is the significance of the next age.
What is the connection between pain and good and evil. Again there is nothing to fear, fear is our enemy...our only enemy. It has been "antropomorphised" in many forms throughout the ages...always as an enemy to God (Love)
In what verifiable context, what is considered evil...children being molested, children being blown up in the WTC or the Murrow Building? I don't think this understanding of what "God" is, is a valid understanding....the contradictions in that view are proven each and every day,
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
Not really necessary, except to say that I believe that man has created that version of "God" out of many of our worst characteristics because that was the extent of our capacity to understand something beyond our comprehension. We understand fear but have yet to grasp the immenseness of Love. We accept these stories as reality out of fear, without question or examination. We reject reason when it contradicts one of our sacred myths.
You don't have God delivering Israel from bondage to a promised land and then years later have Jesus come as prophesied as the Christ and parallel that deliverance from the bondage of sin to eternal life and out of some of aborrition of men. It's just not going to happen.
Sure, man is a literary being. We have always passed along great stories of our desires, aspirations and conquests. The vast majority of the time they have been highly embellished, but that's what makes for great drama.
I wish Bernie Sanders was President. He has the most common sense.
TheBetty1949 2 months ago
Sanderd is one of the banker whores. He is a globalist cunt. Don't trust a single word what he says.
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/watch?v=tGk5ioEXlIM
Watch these first and follow the constitution. Sanders is dangerous.
Packerd01 3 months ago
@Packerd01 no you missed a point there, he is attacking the bankers and the wealth of the richers, he certainly do not fit the bankers way of life.
ManOWar2Red 2 months ago
@Packerd01 You'Re kidding right ? the guy that explain the tax break is making many mistakes. His logic is not working in reality. Example : Exxon Mobil in 2010 BECAUSE of tax break and tax lifting paid absolutely 0$ tax but actually got returns, because of tax break not the contrary.
ManOWar2Red 2 months ago
@gunsite308 so using that logic Fed beat the Nazis and brought about the greatest economic expansion in wealth in history? and is responsible for the wealthiest nation on the planet???
malechauvinistxy 4 months ago
@gunsite308 r.i.p.
MrJeanSarkozy 5 months ago
The huckster bible thumpers never new how to be Christ like in the Least : { They are like filthy lucre in the treasury --scribes, pharisees and Sadducee collusion ; and their deeds hate Christ like deeds } { You Will no them by their leavened Ways } I say let the buyer be-ware :
RELATEDXXX 5 months ago
@BarackObama : You are a ONE TERM president. Save the 2012 campaing money and start Fulfilling your promises. What are you waiting for... another supermajority in the legislative branch?
jorgedude888 6 months ago
KOCH MONEY BUYS GOP ! AMERICA FOR SALE ?
kn9ioutom 6 months ago
I am from Vermont and have voted for Bernie Sanders in every election he has run in! He is asking questions the rock dwellers cannot answer because they don't have an answer that will hold up in court! Watch the reptiles(starts with an R!) squirm while they look into their heads for a decent mistruth that will get him off their back?Amazing some of the performances they are putting on! DOUBLETALK! White man speak with forked tongue! Man those Indians must have gotten mad at us? NOT-LOL!
MrReymoclif714 7 months ago
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this guy should get a job on a major network
TheArguseyes 7 months ago
WHAT BIBLE SAYS ABOUT RICH IS TRUE! GOP ARE VERY CRUEL !
kn9ioutom 9 months ago 2
The Muslems Need to get stop by someone we Christian from Egypt need America & United Kingdom
we wish from the administration to find a way to send our voice to America & the united kingdom as soon as pssible
ownertrade 9 months ago
We must worship Obama... love and honor him, it is the only way
angryscowl 10 months ago
@angryscowl i dont know any liberal who thinks anything even close to that. why do you even waste syllable propagating that fabrication?
BeingNobody1956 9 months ago
RONALD WILSON REAGAN COUNT THE LETTERS IN EACH WORD ! 666
k9kmc 11 months ago
GOP AND BANKSTERS FIX AMERICAN ECONOMY ? CAN PIGS FLY ?
k9kmc 1 year ago
Jim Rogers for Secretary of the Economy. And Bernie Sanders for President in 2012.
whereismybailouttv 1 year ago 2
@whereismybailouttv off bernie scumbucket , a true idiot
biggerturtle 11 months ago
@biggerturtle Are you a democratic shill ?? Why come on here to make conservatives look gay? Or are you 12 years old?
nancypelozithecunt 11 months ago
@biggerturtle I have gaydar raydar and am sure you get your fudge packed every day
togumsack 11 months ago
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@togumsack Learn to write proper English idiot. Then suck all those little boy's dicks like you do each day . Pedophile !!
biggerturtle 11 months ago
Bernie Sanders for President!
dovespin1 1 year ago 8
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Bernie, you’re a twisted freak of nature and it’s fitting that the twisted freak policies you ascribe to are the most time proven failures in the history of the world.
You are a thief and a loser as was your idol Karl Marx.
Pathetic. Un-American. Traitor.
Lentenlands 1 year ago
@Lentenlands I wish to hell all of you low IQ white trash red neck twits would just stay off of the internet . Go find videos of your iconic hero George Bush and leave the TRUTH to the thinking men and woman .
Angryconsumernerd 1 year ago
@Lentenlands you are truly a moron.. try watching actual news and not the garbage that sheep like you believe that fox tells you
pinkfloyd41380 1 year ago
Bernie is a national treasure -- one of only a handful of people in congress that is actually looking out for the vast majority of Americans. If you enjoyed this, try looking up Noam Chomsky or John Perkins.
GreggTheEgg 1 year ago 3
Haha you said "cock us"
ImmortalDestructor 1 year ago 2
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Quote your commie leader you low life.
sickofcommies 1 year ago
@sickofcommies Hey piece of shit. It would be awesome to see you get hit by a bus.
humanills 1 year ago 2
@humanills awe, how sweet...
sickofcommies 1 year ago
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AndrewCWillis 1 year ago
thezepp68, tuffishlover, and all the others who share their views--you just don't know enough about the subject to be making the statements you are. Frankly, it is obvious to any observer who reads and can think critically on a middle school level that you pull those opinions out of your a*@.
ethangirlsmom 1 year ago
Al Franken uh uh uh um um, Sorry but this is distracting. He can't even read. It's like the Rob Schneider delivery guy character in "Big Daddy" " hipp pop hip pop potonumus!!! It's not fair he gets all the easy ones!!!!!"
tuffishlover 1 year ago
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Douchebag Sanders just sabotaged RP's effort to audit the Fed. He scratched provisions which expose the Open Market Committee and deals with foreign countries.
Video:
"Senate Sellout Threatens Ron Paul's Audit the Fed Bill"
We're probably bailing-out Socialist Greece (its private investors, actually), but thanks to Sanders we might never know how much.
LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
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LibertaerUeberAlles 1 year ago
Right and Bush giving each person 500 dollars helped so well we should keep doing it. and Bush was the one who started the bailout of corporations and banks with no stipulations to the money. I agree that did not work out well either. Reregulation and stipulations to that money that must be paid back is what I think should be done. Government has been hijacked by corporations. The people are no longer represented. Free trade is a joke and we better work together or we will never get it back
cultfighter 2 years ago 39
@cultfighter Just giving people money doesn't work, the Conservatives in Canada did it here and gave our rebates to people and than jacked up our taxes. The arbitrary checque in your mailbox has to come from somewhere
patient0Studios 1 year ago 2
@cultfighter Its funny because those rebates were essentially bribes, and they worked. A large number of people sacrificed their rationality and threw ethical considerations to the wind because W. put 500 bucks in their pocket. It is truly sad.
uniteordie1 6 months ago 2
The statement "librals hate this country" is idiotic to say the least. My instinct is to replace libral with conservative and a whole lot more people would agree with my statement because they are living through the Republican Recession. They see Republicans refuse to help fix their own mess as they vote NO in mass on every peice of legislation and hold up over 100 bills in the Senate. You teabaggers need to turn off FOX misinformation - back away from the TV and stop being such Beckerheads
cultfighter 2 years ago 91
I have to say as an outsider..looking at your nation, it is very clear that the public of the USA don't assign a particular party with the economic woes, rather they blame government giving special treatment to big businesses in exchange for them acting as proxies for government goals and aims.
Canada is doing far better then the USA is today because our banking system, was less regulated and the regulations in place were not for government purposes.
Didn't Bush try and reform F&F in 01.
EasyEs 1 year ago
@cultfighter obummer is the worst president in history It is a fact. A weak pussy who is way in over his haed What a mistake!
biggerturtle 11 months ago
@biggerturtle that comment makes you look gay
zoodle25 11 months ago
@zoodle25 No Bernie is gay
biggerturtle 11 months ago
@biggerturtle Yup you are a faggott trolling for manmeat on youtube Try a dating site
Theelibralsfuck1 11 months ago
@Theelibralsfuck1 Actually no . I just fucked ypour mother because YOU can't get it up for her, gayboy She's coming over again tonight and we're running a train on her at her request HAHAHA
biggerturtle 11 months ago
@Theelibralsfuck1 One look at your insipid channel shows who is REALLY a faggot. MY GOD !!!
What A MORON.
biggerturtle 11 months ago
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liberals hate this country so much they wanna change it into a socialist one.. they believe in equal outcome, not equal opportunity.. they wanna take from those hard working citizens who make good money and 'share the wealth'.. and half of America is too stupid to realize it
Kurupted8487 2 years ago
wrong, even though im not a liberal, there not destorying this country at all. Large greedy bastards like corporations and Banks are destroying this country thanks to politcians selling them selves out to the american ppl
atl881 2 years ago 2
@Kurupted8487 Actually, the only people who've introduced regressive taxes lately would be Republicans, in Bush's tax cuts that he hammered through.
SnowsterSC 2 years ago
The (lack of) background is because this is meant to be a radio show...not a TV show. They just have a web stream / YouTube as an addition. :]
kidmajick 2 years ago 3
they are making us wait so long for healthcare reform and have bombarded us with so much media coverage that they have tired us. i'm just thinking i don't care anymore just pass something already. it is definitely the wrong attitude, but i am aware of this feeling.
bcw324 2 years ago
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Wayne's World meets C-SPAN.
conservativo 2 years ago
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Nice background set.... is it in your parents' basement?
Jdlifsey 2 years ago
sanders 2012
leftbehind81 2 years ago 3
like i said most of the left will not listen to reason they are to blind to alot the truth, the thumbs down on my comment only shows your own ignorance and that my comment it correct.
convertibleboy 2 years ago
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All of you leftwingers are so confused , keep listening to theyoungturks anti-american bullshit. These people were not marching on washington to stop obama, they did it to stop big government. Us real americans are tired of being over taxed and not having a say as to what the government does with our money. I dont like the republicans or democrats in washington. they are all corrupt and if you dont think so you are only fooling yourselves. so keep giving me thumbs downs ignorant fools.
convertibleboy 2 years ago
But conservatives are much angrier now as they were when Bush was in power. The two Bushes and Ronald Reagan presided over gigantic federal spending. Almost 3/4ths of the current deficit comes from spending by the last 3 Republican presidents.
As far as taxes go, 25% of George W. Bush's tax cuts went to the top 1% of income earners. Most of Obama's tax hikes are going to these people. Isn't it redistributing wealth to cut taxes more for the rich like Republicans do? So why the anger now?
EricTerman 2 years ago
Please , dont insult my intelligence Obama has spent more more in his first 100 days then all US president combined, so please save it.
convertibleboy 2 years ago
That is one of the most stubbornly ignorant things I've ever read. This is pointless. I'm done with this conversation.
EricTerman 2 years ago
does the truth hurt? check your facts its true. I guess next your ganna say obama had nothing to do with acorn, your the ignorant 1.
convertibleboy 2 years ago
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listen kid , stick with comedy and stay off politics cause you really dont know the facts or what your talking about. Check em cause its the truth that you wont hear from your douchebag left wing brainwashing college professors
convertibleboy 2 years ago
Thumbs down for referring to others as ignorant fools rather than putting together a cogent and rational argument to make your point.
Xtraeme 2 years ago
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lmao, i know there is no reasoning with the left wingers they cannot be reasoned with. liberalism is a brain malfunction. lmao
convertibleboy 2 years ago
Feel free to let emotion run your mouth. It just furthers my observation that extremists on the right suffer from a high functioning version of tourettes.
Xtraeme 2 years ago
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lmao @ you, im really not extreme rite, just sick of young turks anti-american bullshit. You know what i am, not rite wing or left, im anti-big government pro-american freedom extreme!
convertibleboy 2 years ago
idiot.
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hollaboutit 2 years ago
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thank god the real americans marched on washington today. God bless the USA!
convertibleboy 2 years ago
What do you mean real? What are fake americans?
BMBaccount 2 years ago
The people that are runing this country and the people that own the federal reserve because it not us, Also, research the masons and freemasons exposed and you find the answers you seek
SaintJohn86 2 years ago
my grandpa was a freemason, the theories are a fucking joke.
BMBaccount 2 years ago
Well I do not know if you know but it is a secret society, so he would not tell you things that goes on, because he sore an oath of secrecy. The reason I know is that I have read things that former masons wrote about it and what actual masons said them, have you heard of Albert Pike or Aleister Crowley people that I do not think are upstanding people
Also, look things yourself, look up who own Federal Reserve and you will find out it is not America, and the truth is hard to swallow
SaintJohn86 2 years ago
You mention God twice in 2 sentences. If the Real Americans are the Glenn Beck fans who are protesting the government, and God has something to do with this, why did God let Barack Obama become president in the first place? Why did God chose for fake Americans to run the government?
EricTerman 2 years ago
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convertibleboy 2 years ago
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hey stoptherightwing, your just upset that acorn got busted. Oh and i forgot according to the left obama has no affiliation with acorn.
convertibleboy 2 years ago
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blah blah blah, young turks stfu, i am so sick of hearing your dribble. Move to fucking north korea, after all you want all their policies to be imposed here in the USA.
convertibleboy 2 years ago
I agree convertibleboy! Why should our representatives get some balls and listen to us instead of trying to deal with the group of "NO", called the GOP! Just because they lost the election why shouldn't they get their way? They are the true PATRIOTS, aren't they? I know, us Obama supporters are stupid and let the government control our thoughts and our kids. We'll march like the North Koreans to show you how RIGHT you are! It's okay, watch Glenn Beck, he speaks your language.
stoptherightwing 2 years ago 2
couldnt have put it better myself , thanx
convertibleboy 2 years ago
no one is forcing you to watch TYT convertible. So why don't you pull your head out of your ass, and go watch some conservative run bullshit of a program.
BellamyBros 2 years ago
and tyt is a liberal run bullshit of a program
convertibleboy 2 years ago
Your GOP railed for up and down votes all the time. And they had a good point. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, suddenly you don't want a vote. Elections have consequences. Win some, and you'll have more of a voice.
rushnut1958 2 years ago
You obviously don't understand what North Korea is all about (it's not actually Communist like you're implying, it's Totalitarian, but called a Communist government, and they call themselves The People's Republic).
Second of all, you're going out of your way to hear TYT, so if you don't want to hear it, it's pretty easy to avoid.
dEdGrimley 2 years ago
You love Hugo Chavez because he is a MARXIST AS WELL , thankyou COMRADE, CZARS...so soviet union ya!?
Crusader4ever1 2 years ago
Bernie For President
robb1031 2 years ago
Public option will not pass because it is a trojan horse for single payer. Obama lies about this but he has been caught. See watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk
roncram 2 years ago
It's a step towards single player, which is progress.
djacobox372 2 years ago
Americans do not want a single payer plan. The healthcare in the UK and Canada is terrible compared to the US. Most of the medical innovation happens in the US. Obama's plan would intentional slow medical innovation resulting in a greater number of unnecessary deaths among the elderly.
roncram 2 years ago
Dr. David Blumenthal, another key Obama adviser, recommends slowing medical innovation to control health spending. Blumenthal has long advocated government health-spending controls, though he concedes they're "associated with longer waits" and "reduced availability of new and expensive treatments and devices" (New England Journal of Medicine, March 8, 2001). Of all the thousands of doctors he could have chosen as advisors, Obama picked Ezekiel Emanuel and David Blumenthal. Worry!
roncram 2 years ago
Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel, brother of Rahm Emanuel, is health-policy adviser at the Office of Management and Budget and a member of Federal Council on Comparative Effectiveness Research. Emanuel says medical care should be reserved for the non-disabled, not given to those "who are irreversibly prevented from being or becoming participating citizens . . . An obvious example is not guaranteeing health services to patients with dementia" (Hastings Center Report, Nov.-Dec. '96).
roncram 2 years ago
Obama's chief healthcare advisors are promoting ideas that would have been welcomed by the Nazis. If you don't know why I say this, you are uninformed. Read some columns by Betsy McCaughey who has quoted them extensively. Both Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel and Dr. David Blumenthal think age discrimination is not evil and that old people should wait at the end of the line for medical care. They also think medical innovation should be slowed to save money.
roncram 2 years ago
If anyone wants to see how good the Canadian health care system is, see YouTube video watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw Crowder takes a video camera to the clinics and hospitals to find out what it is like to get health care in Canada. What a nightmare! Please see the video so you can learn for yourself. Healhcare is not just about the money. We want good healthcare, not long waits like in Canada.
roncram 2 years ago
The public option is not the same as single payer. But Obama plans to move from public option to single payer quickly. I know Obama has denied this, but he lies. See watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk If anyone wants to see how good the Canadian health care system is, see watch?v=q2jijuj1ysw Crowder takes a video camera to the clinics and hospitals to find out what it is like to get health care in Canada. What a nightmare! Please see the video so you can learn for yourself.
roncram 2 years ago
up or down vote means everyone votes YAY or NAY. its a way to get around republican obstructionism. the repubs tried it alot back in the bush era.
thisoldhate 2 years ago
What is an up and down vote?
Tones4me1 2 years ago
Hmmm I need to change my outlook on this. Either the public option passes like I want it to and I'm happy or it fails and I soften my disappointment with the money I could make by investing in the insurance companies at the same time that many people would sell stock in them.
draconian139 2 years ago
Bernie Sanders is considered an Independent.
ekmnproductions 2 years ago
You catch wild pigs by finding a place in the woods and putting corn on the ground. The pigs begin to come everyday to eat the free corn. When they are used to coming every day, you put a fence down one side of the place where they are used to coming. When they get used to the fence, they begin to eat the corn again and you put up another side of the fence. They get used to that and start to eat again. You continue until you have all four sides of the fence up with a gate in the last side.
mn8aol 2 years ago
When I scan the viewer responses and see Bible quotations, I know we've fallen off the Health Care or Bernie Sanders topic. Can you guys take it to a religious blog?
ghost1946 2 years ago
How do you figure? My argument is that "public healthcare" is an expansion of the state, that the evidence of marxist subversion in our government is clearly visible to the trained eye and all of this reinforces and confirms scripture.
mn8aol 2 years ago
And my argument was do we let partisian politics, idiologies, dogma and irrational fear stand in the way of providing something as important as health care to our citizens, many of which would not , otherwise, be able to afford it.
nduri2 2 years ago
The argument that a heath care bill that clearly usurps freedom of choice should be passed because some cannot afford health care is not credible. Government can, at any time set up shop for all those who cannot afford health care.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Cool, you are Pro-Choice, I didn't realize that. You are arguing that the bill that could offer a choice to 30 million Americans without health care usurps freedom of choice. As for those with health care, it would simply add another choice to the marketplace for those that would prefer it to their current provider.
nduri2 2 years ago
Oh come on, this bill intends to phase out private insurance.
mn8aol 2 years ago
The only way that happens is if it is so effective that everyone chooses it over the private sector plans. Slippery slope logic...that's like those that say it will "kill old people." Just another baseless argument to scare people into accepting the status quo.
nduri2 2 years ago
Really? Then why does page 145, line 15-17 require all employers to enroll all new employees in the government system, no choice whatsoever? How about page 149, lines 16-24 imposing an 8% payroll tax penalty for any employer making over $400,000 who fails to force his employees onto government insurance? And page 167, lines 18-23 imposing a 2.5% income tax penalty on any privately-insured individual who fails to get "adequate" private insurance?
mn8aol 2 years ago
LOL if one more person quotes that bogus website I am going to scream...THIS IS NOT THE FINAL BILL, this is bogus...THESE ARE SCARE TACTICS, nothing more. I know people don't want to hear that because of pressure from the right as well as the millions daily that insurance companies are spending in order to misinform the public but at some point people need to wake up!!! I know fear and mistrust is rampant when the "other" party is in power but people need to think for themselves.
nduri2 2 years ago
Which bogus website is that? Mistrust the government? Why I would never dream of such a thing!
mn8aol 2 years ago
The issue is blanket mistrust, just like blanket trust is equally foolish. There are a number of sites who has either put up forms of the bill that are either outright lies or twisted the wording to the point of ridiculous. Saying things like the gov't will take money from peoples bank accounts when the sited paragraph is clearly referring to drafts insurance companies. Again, all this when a final bill hasn't been constructed yet.
nduri2 2 years ago
Blanket mistrust? Have you watched the legislation rammed through Congress in just the last year? Not even read! Have you studied the history of Congress and the sheer number of times the American people were assured fears would never come to pass? They even put Communist goals - into the Congressional Record in 1963 and look how well that went! Do you have any idea the treason these schmucks have committed against the backdrop of the Constitution? Everything else is just a distraction!
mn8aol 2 years ago
I was saying the same thing with the Patriot Act...anyway the administration is in a no-win situation, if they move too fast people accuse them of sneaking in legislation and move too slow and they are accused of being inept. I'm sure they'd rather had taken their first 7 months off like the previous administration but it didn't work out that way.
nduri2 2 years ago
We agree on the Patriot act, but as was noted by Ron Paul the bailout and stimulus bills were made available to congressman only hours before the vote. 1000's of pages these bills were impossible for anyone to have read! I remember Paul calling it a sad day in history after the last stimulus was passed in January. You are not aware this administration has an agenda they are pushing through at warp speed? Our government models after the marxist EU, in pushing bills, stimulus and harmonization.
mn8aol 2 years ago
That's what it says under "Goals for Financial and Administrative Transactions" Page 59 Where is it clearly referring to insurance companies? Show me!
mn8aol 2 years ago
God is always CONSISTENT with his character. He must always be just. He cannot be inconsistent with His character. He cannot tolerate evil in His presence.
mn8aol 2 years ago
berrrrrrrrrnie, i looooooooooove youuuuuuu
slut4berniesanders 2 years ago 2
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is my free ride here yet?
work sux.
I want to live on the backs of others.
803honda 2 years ago
yeah your free ride is here....little yellow bus? right?
nduri2 2 years ago
"What fool would go along with these jokers when all they do is a cheap card trick"
I'm assuming of course that you are referring to the Republicans, a one-trick-pony cadre of hucksters if ever there was one. Their oft-repeated mantra of "let the market reign unfettered" is what has largely contributed to this mess. Bush's performance re: the economy was indefensibly deplorable. So by all means go on with your anti-Socialist rantings. Meanwhile, we'll be here trying to accomplish something.
ultrapop101 2 years ago
I'm sure you are for what's mine is your and what's yours is yours right?
And what is it that you are accomplishing? Regime change? The greatest theft of the treasury and American public? The hijacking of the US Constitution by democrats and republicans alike? The allowance of a non-US Citizen to run for the presidency and win? Please enlighten us all!!!
whitenubian 2 years ago
"The allowance of a non-US Citizen to run for the presidency and win?"
Your tin foil hat is awfully shiny. Tell me, do you nuts get your talking points from the same place, or is there more than one drone that makes this stuff up for you?
ultrapop101 2 years ago
easy.
he's shown no one but a communist group his "certificate"
lawyers and soldiers across the states are serving him.
keep living in your dream world there yuppie
whitenubian 2 years ago
"he's shown no one but a communist group his "certificate""
Plenty of people have seen it, including the Republican governor of Hawaii. So whether or not Obama is a citizen isn't a question open for debate--not that it ever was. But you knew this, of course. I know that it can be hard to accept that America elected a black man with a furen' soundin' name, but we at least try to cloak our racism a bit more these days than we did in the 50s.
ultrapop101 2 years ago
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only a racist would claim this is about racism when it's clearly about democracy, the rule of law, and transperancy.
but a communist like yourself only thinks of himself.
nice try but no meat stick for you this time
whitenubian 2 years ago
"but a communist like yourself only thinks of himself."
LOL, seriously? Why do you even continue responding? You're like a lost sheep, just grasping at whatever spoon-fed talking points you can. Look, I'm sorry that we elected a black man as president, I know it must be hard for you. But really, I can see why you guys lost the election. Enjoy the next eight years of chasing conspiracy theories.
ultrapop101 2 years ago 3
mn8aol, how many times are you going to copy and paste the same stolen-from-the-Republicans talking point? Get some new material, and an original thought.
ultrapop101 2 years ago
You haven't said a word of substance yet, what makes you think you could an argument?
mn8aol 2 years ago
Bernie Sanders is a cheap card trick who only wants to expand the state. Scam? It is government alone that has raised the cost of health care. Charlatan Sanders and government need to stop the semantic deception and call federal programs administered by the state what they are, call it "collectivist hospital plan" or "hospital care based on the soviet system" or "transformational marxist care."
mn8aol 2 years ago
You're an idiot.
No I won't intelligently argue with you, as you have yet to display anything intelligent to argue against.
ASherbuck 2 years ago
haha. cracked me up! seriuosly, you must stop thinking there is some conspiracy about the government, or worse yet, the healthcare system.
SawViking 2 years ago
If there was no conspiracy our government and media would not join Chavez, Castro and Ortega in returning Zelaya to power in Honduras. A clear case of a people defending their freedom and these charlatans who are always lauding "freedom" and "democracy" are in there trying to get this dictator back in power. Can you tell me what the Hegelian-Dialectic is and how it used to trespass boundaries both national and individual? Never in history have defenses left so many boundaries unguarded.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Bloomberg: "TARP Special Investigator Says Bailout Total May Reach $23.7 Trillion"
It's as though they continue to raise the ruse until the last naive finally admits they have been conned.
mn8aol 2 years ago
"It is government alone that has raised the cost of health care."
Are you suggesting that this is done through the FDA? Or by limiting the availability of foreign competition? I don't understand where you are going with this statement.
nduri2 2 years ago
They have their hands in there distorting the market in every part of the industry whether it be direct influence or indirect influences like education, even the attack on traditional moral values over the last 40 years has played an important role in increased costs! Not mention government is the number one cause of inflation in our country. How do you call it foreign "competition" when the U.S. makes up the difference in what those country don't pay?
mn8aol 2 years ago
The foreign competition comment was a question, but your statement was largely off the mark when it comes to the effect of medicines on health care. It is widely known that medicines would be cheaper coming from Canada, which, by the way has a system of socialized medicine. But our laws prohibit US citizens from purchasing from Canadian vendors due largely to the fact that it would hurt sales here. Seems that the "free" market would be able to correct that without govt. interference.
nduri2 2 years ago
Medicines are cheaper in Canada because they buy in quantity Wal-Mart style representing one buyer and the U.S. makes up the difference that drug companies have to have for Research and Development and regulation. A large share of the cost of drugs go to U.S. regulation. Canada benefits freely from the R & D & regulation that we pay for.
mn8aol 2 years ago
The same is true for medicines available here as well....Yes I'm aware they have a single payer plan similar to what is being debated here...with the generic medicines the R&D has already been done...we are paying for payouts, commercials and other marketing among other things.
nduri2 2 years ago
I am well aware that Canada had socialized medicine. I also know that communists know that socialism is just a step to communism. I know that Stalin said that world dictatorship could be obtained through a victory of socialism of various countries and then creating regional unions, which is exactly what we see in the EU, South America and Africa. I know the intent of free trade and "climate change" is to create conditions that will require supranational legislation usurping our constitution.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Yawn....socialism is a step to communism and skittles are a step to crystal meth....these fear tactics and "slippery slope" arguments are just a distraction.
nduri2 2 years ago
I didn't say it, Vladimir Lenin did.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Yeah that North American Forum on Integration in Montreal working on a "model legislature" for the U.S., Mexico and Canada is just a distraction.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Countries working together for the common interests...that is just friggin scary...Very damaging to the ego and inflated self image that we have become so accustomed to.
nduri2 2 years ago
Working for "common interests" is just the marxist way of trespassing boundaries through the Hegelian-Dialectic without having to resort to tanks. It is evil. You lose my respect from the start because I know the cowards don't dare come out and TELL the people what they are doing. So it is done by deception the same way the "common market" was sold to the EU, knowing it would lead to a supranational parliament that would then work toward usurping the sovereignty of the member nations.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Did we as a country consume a fraction of the drugs 50 years ago that we do today? Who creates the perception that we need a prescription drug for everything from the dubious "Attention Deficit Disorder" to sexual dysfunction. What, half the country is on anti-depressants? Why? Name the largest facilitator of public perception (aka "paradigm shift" ) in our country? Who funds changes in perception?
mn8aol 2 years ago
Those who have the most to gain...namely the drug companies....why else would they market their drugs on television and inform you to "ask your doctor if it's right for you" when many times they don't even tell you what it's for. The Drug and Insurance companies are the ones that "lose" with universal health care and a single payer system. We, as Americans will benefit. I know that is a frightening though to these corporate news hounds but they will survive as always.
nduri2 2 years ago
Any notion that an ever expanding government is working in your interest that it might save you from the those evil corporations is mistaken. It is the same cheap card it has always been.
mn8aol 2 years ago
I know, I know...Corporations will one day become self regulating...that is a harder pill to swallow....maybe one day responsibility will positively affect the bottom line, but until that day government will have a role to play. I never said corporations were evil, they simply are "self perpetuating"...they exist to expand their bottom link and in this current era, irresponsibility is more feasible.
nduri2 2 years ago
The STATE is self-perpetuating and exists to expand until every aspect of the lives of the people are controlled. Corporations merely work in tandem with the state to acheive that goal. You will be told where to live, where to work, you will in live in L.A., your children will live in Chicago and your wife will live in Atlanta and you will get together once a year for a couple of weeks. Your whole life will come under surveillence with lofty semantics like working for the "common good."
mn8aol 2 years ago
Don't get me wrong, I've heard about the CFR, the Global 2000 report, the Club of Rome, the Illuminati, the Builderburgers and the other apparatus, whether sinister or otherwise who are believed to be a party to the control apparatus ushering the New World Order. I am familiar with both sides of the argument and remain skeptical of the desires of both thoughtforms. I don't believe that we can sustain our current way of life, at the same time I don't believe, totalitarianism is the answer.
nduri2 2 years ago
Or apparachic. Well that goes back to the Hegelian-Dialectic; not believing that we can sustain our current way of life. Transformational marxists work to change public perception, because the goal is get you to give up your rights. Surely you don't think the oil industry is stupid enough to make everything out plastic, if the planet is running out of oil? If you believe in God, then you know the future is sustainable. If you don't, well then these charlatans are going to play on your fears.
mn8aol 2 years ago
I don't think that believing in God and human sustainablilty are mutually exclusive. Species go extinct all the time. Again, my beliefs are different. As far as the oil companies go, they are about the bottom line, they will produce whatever is in their power to produce, that's why they are beginning to explore alternative fuels, sustainability. They want to be in position to control the next consumable product, whether hydrogen, electric or bio fuel.
nduri2 2 years ago
Sorry, they want to be in position where they have all the Suburbans, Humvees and tanks and the rest of us are driving small electric cars. There is Saudi size oil (opened and capped) under the North Slope. Scientists are ever the prostitutes you make the oil companies out to be, they chase funding and there are few legitimate funding sources that exist today. I know the environmental crisis is deceit, because I have studied marxism and they were trying long before the 70's to fake a "crisis."
mn8aol 2 years ago
I understand your position, and I know about oil reserves here. Also I want you to realize that I wasn't letting scientists off the hook. Greed isn't limited to the oil companies. As far as it being a "fake" crisis, I believe that the motivations of those that seek complete power is manufactured. Just as small cancer or viral cells are able to destroy a much larger organic body, we too, are able to destroy a much larger earth. That may be my issue with religion, it colors us in many ways.
nduri2 2 years ago
If you read scripture from a perspective of boundaries, good and evil, you will find that God has an amazing underlying order that few men see but none-the-less have followed unwittingly throughout history. What is happening today is that the defenses are being brought down all around the world and a trap is being setup for that cancer you are talking about.
mn8aol 2 years ago
The trap is that we have moved away from natural law and created an illusion of "happiness through materialism" We have either been stripped of, or in some cases willfully surrendered our understanding and replaced it with dogma. We have cut ourselves off from spirituality and received religion. All these things and more have led us to the point of self-destruction in that a reality built upon illusion has no stability or sustainablity.
nduri2 2 years ago
Cities were walled and defended 4000 years ago long before science understood how antibodies act as a bodily defense. The trap is the creating the perception that all the nations of the world can let down their defenses. Materialism is a marxist concept at its root. They believe we all animals.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Reality doesn't begin with understanding. Even 4000 years ago, there were those that sought unyielding power and influence over others. It isn't about letting down defenses, it is about understanding that the way our psyche reacts to fear creates a reality where that fear is manifested.
nduri2 2 years ago
Where ever there exists both good and evil would you not agree there should also exist boundaries and defenses?
mn8aol 2 years ago
Good and Evil are illusions....the reality is we either embody, thus act out of, love or fear. When we see ourselves as strictly material beings, yes fear creates situations where both boundaries and defenses are necessary. Understanding the Natural Order/Laws of God/The Tao renders that mindset obsolete. That is the significance of the next age.
nduri2 2 years ago
If sanctification comes through pain, how can good and evil be an illusion? I would run as fast as I could from the eastern/new age religions.
mn8aol 2 years ago
What is the connection between pain and good and evil. Again there is nothing to fear, fear is our enemy...our only enemy. It has been "antropomorphised" in many forms throughout the ages...always as an enemy to God (Love)
nduri2 2 years ago
One that you cannot see obviously. Should you fear God?
mn8aol 2 years ago
Fear is fear....should we fear "the Devil" as well...I don't believe that God wants our fear... that is a desire of the ego.
nduri2 2 years ago
If you prick your finger while picking a rose, you will feel pain, does that make the rose bush evil?
nduri2 2 years ago
God protects the good from the evil.
mn8aol 2 years ago
In what verifiable context, what is considered evil...children being molested, children being blown up in the WTC or the Murrow Building? I don't think this understanding of what "God" is, is a valid understanding....the contradictions in that view are proven each and every day,
nduri2 2 years ago
God is holy. God's holiness is most exposed when placed against the backdrop of man's depravity!
mn8aol 2 years ago
23 From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" 24 He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
nduri2 2 years ago
Going somewhere with this my friend?
mn8aol 2 years ago
Not really necessary, except to say that I believe that man has created that version of "God" out of many of our worst characteristics because that was the extent of our capacity to understand something beyond our comprehension. We understand fear but have yet to grasp the immenseness of Love. We accept these stories as reality out of fear, without question or examination. We reject reason when it contradicts one of our sacred myths.
nduri2 2 years ago
You don't have God delivering Israel from bondage to a promised land and then years later have Jesus come as prophesied as the Christ and parallel that deliverance from the bondage of sin to eternal life and out of some of aborrition of men. It's just not going to happen.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Sure, man is a literary being. We have always passed along great stories of our desires, aspirations and conquests. The vast majority of the time they have been highly embellished, but that's what makes for great drama.
nduri2 2 years ago
You're not understanding what I am saying.
mn8aol 2 years ago
Ok, break it down for me.
nduri2 2 years ago