Do you know the name about that family? I mean, I remember seeing a program where a family chose to have kids even that they knew they had I don't know like a 50% of having retard children, they had 5 kids, 2 retarded and one mild retarded and 2 healthy. I just can't find where I saw that program or their name. They are the perfect example of how unfair would be to make incest illegal, unless all sex becomes regulated to make sure there is no defects (eugenics)
If children is the reason for tax breaks, why are we incentivizing people to have children when they otherwise couldn't afford them? What's one of the big reasons for crime? Having a bad childhood. What's one of the big reasons for having a bad childhood? Parental instability. What's one of the big reasons for parental instability? Financial instability! Thus, by offering tax breaks, we are incentivizing the growth of a new generation of criminals.
. . . So then limit tax breaks between only two spouses, and if they want more spouses, no more tax breaks . . . . ?
Why offer tax breaks to any married individuals in the first place? The fact that they are combining their productivity automatically reduces their expenses by half. Instead of each having to pay for their own comforts and shelter, they only need to pay once for both of them. Married couples are financially better off than single people. So why give them more money?
Aside from economic stability, there are more reasons to think polygamy is harmful. There's only a 1:1 ratio of men to women. In polygamy, men are the one's with more than one partner(typically). Young men in polygamous communities are often banished. If society at large were polygamous, it's not hard to imagine the level of competition for women, which would of course include violence. Underage marriage's occur in polygamous communities(due to the high competition for partners?)
A bit of an old topic, but wanted to say that your not basing your of polygomy on reality even though we have plenty of current culture and history to look to.
I have seen it put forth that polygomous cultures are more violent, but against outside cultures, not their own culture.
At least some polygomous cultures have lower crime than we do.
There isnt so much competition for women that end in violence because the culture creates rules to deal with that.
I'd like to say that I agree with everything except your comments on polygamy... well it depends on the situation. If the guy is having a lot of kids it really needs to be frowned upon. Children need A LOT of attention from their parents. When you have too many kids this need is not met and problems arise. Of course this goes for couples who have seven kids themselves.
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LifeLibertyLove, for being such a hateful homophobe, you sure post a lot on video clips dealing with same sex issues. Miss LifeLibertyLove also posted on FatLibertarian's video response "Against Gay Marriage" (click on the related video on the right). Miss LifeLibertyLove posted so many (contradictory, hypocritical, homophobic, pseudo intellectual, ignorant) comments similar to this one. Truly hilarious.
Anyways, thanks for being consistent. A lot of feminists that I have conversed with want to allow same-sex marriage but limit polygamy. As anyone can see, it seems to be hypocritical to do so on purely "moral" grounds.
Hey, that was a good video. I don't really have enough to say to warrant a video response, but I probably would say that economic factors would not justify limiting marriage rights to polygamists given the nature that we do not try to limit family size as it is already. One can now have as many kids as they would like with no restriction from the government.
I'm really glad you made these points. When people bring up the whole polygamy issue they always ask why we shouldn't allow polygamy marriages if we were to allow same sex marriage. You brought up the point that i always made about the economic and financial concerns that come with a union of many people. Thanks again for the video, nicely thought out!
I think a good thing you forgot to mention was the bad sides of Polygamy ;p Although I'm not generally against it, it's perfectly fine if there is a limit to how many XD
But anyway, Some things to consider are the legal re precautions of it, such as divorce, can you imagine how much legal limbo it would cause? XD
Do you know the name about that family? I mean, I remember seeing a program where a family chose to have kids even that they knew they had I don't know like a 50% of having retard children, they had 5 kids, 2 retarded and one mild retarded and 2 healthy. I just can't find where I saw that program or their name. They are the perfect example of how unfair would be to make incest illegal, unless all sex becomes regulated to make sure there is no defects (eugenics)
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 days ago
Very insightful.
Madfoot713 1 year ago
If children is the reason for tax breaks, why are we incentivizing people to have children when they otherwise couldn't afford them? What's one of the big reasons for crime? Having a bad childhood. What's one of the big reasons for having a bad childhood? Parental instability. What's one of the big reasons for parental instability? Financial instability! Thus, by offering tax breaks, we are incentivizing the growth of a new generation of criminals.
JacobSpinney 2 years ago
You'd have to make the objective argument that people are having kids solely for the tax-break.
That would take some work.
Though I see your point.
JasperAvi 2 years ago
. . . So then limit tax breaks between only two spouses, and if they want more spouses, no more tax breaks . . . . ?
Why offer tax breaks to any married individuals in the first place? The fact that they are combining their productivity automatically reduces their expenses by half. Instead of each having to pay for their own comforts and shelter, they only need to pay once for both of them. Married couples are financially better off than single people. So why give them more money?
JacobSpinney 2 years ago
Keep in mind I made it very clear that if the economic issues are nonsensical or non-issue, then I am COMPLETELY for polygamous marriages.
JasperAvi 2 years ago
Aside from economic stability, there are more reasons to think polygamy is harmful. There's only a 1:1 ratio of men to women. In polygamy, men are the one's with more than one partner(typically). Young men in polygamous communities are often banished. If society at large were polygamous, it's not hard to imagine the level of competition for women, which would of course include violence. Underage marriage's occur in polygamous communities(due to the high competition for partners?)
gentry529 2 years ago
A bit of an old topic, but wanted to say that your not basing your of polygomy on reality even though we have plenty of current culture and history to look to.
I have seen it put forth that polygomous cultures are more violent, but against outside cultures, not their own culture.
At least some polygomous cultures have lower crime than we do.
There isnt so much competition for women that end in violence because the culture creates rules to deal with that.
waltermh111 2 years ago
Instead those restless men lash out at other cultures.
This isnt guaranteed, but its apparently historically above average.
Still, thats in cultures where polygomy is encouraged / expected.
Where women are property or arranged marraiges are performed.
There are very peaceful cultures that have polygomy though, such as mormons.
There are couples around the world that are polygamic even in societies that dont accept it, being quite happy
Making polygomy legal is not the same as encouraging it
waltermh111 2 years ago
You simply legalise it, but have no dogma encouraging it, and you will find it rare that people choose that route.
But why punish people that choose that route.
As long as if of their free will, it is not harmful and too uncommon to cause harm at large.
The idea of the genders being 1-1 is irrelevent because theres plenty that die single willingly or through never finding the right person.
If everybody married then you may have a problem with 1-1 issue
waltermh111 2 years ago
I'd like to say that I agree with everything except your comments on polygamy... well it depends on the situation. If the guy is having a lot of kids it really needs to be frowned upon. Children need A LOT of attention from their parents. When you have too many kids this need is not met and problems arise. Of course this goes for couples who have seven kids themselves.
UnschoolingEagle 2 years ago
I'm starting to think our minds really are pretty damn synced up....wow....Have you been stalking my thoughts?!?! :O How dare you.... ;D
Jillersaurus 2 years ago
Redundant family, I like it :P:
xNAgff 2 years ago
Thanks for immortalizing me on your page. Please, continue to worship me. LifeLibertyLove (take a look on her page) has chosen to express her frustration at failing, time after time, to form lucid, logical, non hypocritical, non homophobic, intelligent comments. Thank you for proving me right and validating everything I have stated. You're in love with me, huh, miss LifeLibertyLove?
jaa808 3 years ago
LifeLibertyLove is acting out feelings of frustration for always being the "taker". By all means miss LifeLibertyLove, block me. Once again, you've been owned.
jaa808 3 years ago
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Homosexuals should be executed.
LifeLibertyLove 3 years ago
LifeLibertyLove, for being such a hateful homophobe, you sure post a lot on video clips dealing with same sex issues. Miss LifeLibertyLove also posted on FatLibertarian's video response "Against Gay Marriage" (click on the related video on the right). Miss LifeLibertyLove posted so many (contradictory, hypocritical, homophobic, pseudo intellectual, ignorant) comments similar to this one. Truly hilarious.
jaa808 3 years ago 2
hahaha i'm blocking you troll. Go hide under your bridge.
LifeLibertyLove 3 years ago
I will. Tell your mother to make room for me. Still with the "hahaha", repetitive retard? Buy a thesaurus.
jaa808 3 years ago 2
Wasn't it looked down upon in Greek and Roman culture though for a man to take it instead of giving it to another guy?
overmind25 3 years ago
It was under the circumstance that the man was the elder or mentor in the relationship.
JasperAvi 3 years ago
Otherwise it wasn't looked down upon?
overmind25 3 years ago
No.
The younger of the individuals and the trainees in apprenticeships/armed forces were recognized as submissive and thus they were the takers.
JasperAvi 3 years ago
Anyways, thanks for being consistent. A lot of feminists that I have conversed with want to allow same-sex marriage but limit polygamy. As anyone can see, it seems to be hypocritical to do so on purely "moral" grounds.
bic312 3 years ago
I appreciate the exchange...
Anytime you feel like continuing this one or starting another one, I openly welcome it.
JasperAvi 3 years ago
Hey, that was a good video. I don't really have enough to say to warrant a video response, but I probably would say that economic factors would not justify limiting marriage rights to polygamists given the nature that we do not try to limit family size as it is already. One can now have as many kids as they would like with no restriction from the government.
bic312 3 years ago
Hey Avi, can you post a link to the video you're responding to in the description please, it doesn't look like it's been accepted yet.
brouhajoe 3 years ago
Done, thanks for the tip.
JasperAvi 3 years ago
I'm really glad you made these points. When people bring up the whole polygamy issue they always ask why we shouldn't allow polygamy marriages if we were to allow same sex marriage. You brought up the point that i always made about the economic and financial concerns that come with a union of many people. Thanks again for the video, nicely thought out!
chrisfrost103 3 years ago
Glad I could be a medium through which others' thought are transferred.
This is the beauty of YouTube, isn't it? :)
JasperAvi 3 years ago
I think a good thing you forgot to mention was the bad sides of Polygamy ;p Although I'm not generally against it, it's perfectly fine if there is a limit to how many XD
But anyway, Some things to consider are the legal re precautions of it, such as divorce, can you imagine how much legal limbo it would cause? XD
mewimi 3 years ago
I made very clear the biggest problem with it would be that of an economic nature. That falls right under that area of critique.
JasperAvi 3 years ago
You didn't really specify anything regarding it, you should of, thats all I'm saying ;o
mewimi 3 years ago
This is true.
Would you have preferred a 12 minute video? :) lol
JasperAvi 3 years ago
HECK YES =3
mewimi 3 years ago