@aggroman7 well answer the question then. Also what about people who live in places like Bermuda and the Falklands, if Scotland breaks away whose passports will they hold? Also, why don't the SNP think of the benefits that come from being in a country as awesome as the UK? surely it's worked out for them?
@KeepEuropeWhite I will reply in KISS for you:- £35 billion income to the exchequer from scotland - but public spending was around £78 billion. Meaning a subsidy from Westminster of approximately £43 billion. We English taxpayers fund that you ingrate! And 58 per cent of economic activity in Scotland flowed from public spending, compared with 41 per cent across the England, Wales and NI. Shall I go on?
@MrMickroach GERS Report Shows Scotland subsidises UK, says Professor Andrew Hughes Hallett
scotlands economy 91billion with 18.6 billion in trade and guess what scotland is making profit how is the uk doing with its erm debt of over 900 billion
powers this 1 is obvious england has a say in scottish affairs and the wars it gets involved in erm iraq
unfair union - the tories take scotlands oil margeret thatcher the tories take scotlands budget david cameron
@MrScottishJamie Another rant about how the oil that is brought ashore in Scotaldn belings to them, without that there would be nothing. Scotland has no industrty, Scotland has now ealth generators to speka of, so when hallet removes the oil, Scotland is bankrupt and dependant as always, on the ENGLISH taxpayer. The numbers I have given are numbers right from the OECD. So stop stroking yourself jock, as a Union Scotland has a future, without it, it will be bankrupt within two years!
@MrMickroach blommin hell more jock bashing from a englisman who cannot spell lol . england has control of oil 10% and the scottish oil 25% and the welsh and irish oil and my numbers r straight from the GERS REPORT england is bankrupt and dependent on the scottish balance england does not subidise scotland because scotland does not have full devolution then extra from england dont call me jock ever its racist drop the scotophobia
@MrMickroach keep your anglo nose out our affairs and money then scotland has a lot of INDUSTRY such as medicals drinks and food and oil and green energy what is 18.6 billion a year scotlands
@MrMickroach i heard the english wont be getting a vote on the independence good u dont deserve a say this is a issue for the scots and the ? is westminster got a right in scotland
@MrScottishJamie If thats what you twerps want, it will be a pleasure to watch the drip stop and you lot grubbing around whinging about money! Just remember, we give you greedy and ingrate "people" £44 billion....Are you worth it?? Hell no! Best remember sonny, there are 50 million people in England and only just over 4 million "up there". Like 1698 you will all conspire to fuck it up!
@MrMickroach u need to ask yourself a ? if england does subidise scotland why e the lib lab con wanted no referendum does norway whine about money no neither will scotland is the scottish lord a traitor hell yes
how the union was formed 1 scottish lord said yes but because there was so many english lords and it was based on the uk and not each country the union was formed if it was modern democracy it would be a no vote from scotland . scotland was independent for 500 years before the union
@MrMickroach greedy ? coming from the westminster and the tories who take and take of scotland and scotland just gives and gives blindly scotland should protest to give england not 1 pound and we dont want any dirty money from england either
@MrScottishJamie Take and Take just WHAT from Scotland? There is fuc all there to take old son, are you barmy or what? 40% of the workforce in Scotland, work for the Government. However what you are saying, you dont want to take that £44 billion any more. So how will pick up the shortfall??? The tooth fairy?
@MrMickroach well margeret thatcher the oil and now david cameron scottish budget cut . scotland gives money to westminster and gets pocket change back day light robbery on englands side laughing its way to there dodgy banks where do u get the 44 billion from heres a small guess the 90 billion we give you next the tories want our water greedy bastards . will scotland be better of with 44 billion staying in the uk or 90 billion leaving do the math man dont beg for money which is not yours ok !
@MrScottishJamie You dont get it do you, it is not Scottish oil, it is only brought ashore in Scotland you twerp. England, Wales and NI also pay into the kitty, but per head, we all get £1200 less in subsidy than the jocks. In revenue Scotland raises $ 35 billion for the exchequer and takes £78 billion in return, so stop believing the rhetoric you are being fed by the fascist Salmond and his blue shirts. Scotland is almost bankrupt now, without the English taxpayer, it will be a basket case
@MrMickroach scotland is not bankrupt the scottish oil all paid into the english kitty by margeret thatcher its a shame english control the scottish powers the teleqraph let out the info of the economy in scotland at 90 billion look up in bbc where power lies alex salmond a fascist he is not 1 he wants scots to have control of things in scotland instead of the english having a say in scotland the real fascists r the white supremist nigel farage and nick griffin so the fascist r far right
@MrMickroach england will be very much in debt without scotland bailing them out happy nuke building to even bigger debt its a shame england does not have a real that look after its people instead heavy taxes and pay for everything lol oh well oh well
@MrScottishJamie You are hung up on this silly apocrypha about Scotland, 40% of the workforce are public servants.....there is no indigenous industry in Scotland, and if we didnt have to dib the jocks on, we would be £44 billion better off, and no fucking whinging from you either!
@MrMickroach keep dreaming that. thats just info that the union parties made up to tell scots be happy what u have and to tell them we english like controling you most work force is in the trade area Professor Andrew Hughes Hallett knows what the economy of scotland is and the union tried to hide the mcrone report most of the industry mostly was closed by the fascist tories. but scotland still has over 12 billion in trade
@MrScottishJamie I bet it was a shock to have an English person tell you what they think about you lot. In your insular little jock world, you constantly whinge and yet the English taxpayer quietly accepts that they subsidise you ingrates tp the tune of 3 to one. It is coming, but we English are getting sick you you minority gobshotes always claiming that "its Scotlands oil" and that you support the English. The truth shows just how deluded and fanciful your fantasy
@MrMickroach it was scotlands oil before margeret thatcher took it all so we subidise you in the ways of oil yet u get to vote for things in scotland mad huh thats why the union parties dont want scotland independence because of scotland pulls out uk economy drops dramaticly how ever scotlands economy would be as powerful as or more than norway
mrcrone report is leaked out . the mcrone report is a report on how much scotland gives to the uk in the case of oil and its very high
@MrScottishJamie No it wasnt you tube! Scotland subsidises fuck all, it takes, takes and then takes ome more. There is no indigenous industry in Scotland that would sustain it through partition, and if you believe that fascist ranting from salmond, you are cunt! If Scotland pulls out of the UK, Glenrothes would die...all of the hi tech would shut down, all of the Governemnt agencies would close. Are you really that stupid? Scotland, I gives nothing, repeat nothing, it only takes
@MrMickroach well the mcrone report which the english tried to hide tells other wise scotland has oil just because it is now british does not mean all of it belongs to england all trade money of scotland goes to england when it should stay in scotland it would be intresting to know what the english economy would be if scotland pulled out my guess bigger debt right now 900 billion in debt and scotland shock is in credit
@MrMickroach england is fascist it just takes and takes and moans about irish debt when erm the uk debt is higher look up the uk debt clock and scotland is in surplus why because scotland gets a fixed budget then holyrood decided what to do with the money yet england still moans about the small lump they give us while they get the large chunk of scottish money and oil if it was the other way about the englsh would moan like fuck got an idea we have westminster u have a fixed budget lol
@MrScottishJamie The UK debt is high because of the jockenese mafia of Bliar and Mrs Broon creating none jobs in Scotland, 40% of the jockenese workforce are publice servants! And Scotland spends £78 billion and generates only £35 billion in exchequer revenue, The rest of us have to give the jocks another £44 billion for their creaking little empire.
@MrMickroach the scots vote english labour to stop the english tories taking from scotland and closing scottish industry which is dumb way to stop the tories in my opinion the best way is scottish independence that way no one subsidies anyone and no one can about it blair and brown r british nationals alex salmond tommy sheridan is scottish nationals . Labour betrayed scotland to help england good it might encourge people to vote snp instead of your english communist labour .
@MrMickroach iam not a labour guy i dislike labour as much as you maybe even proberly even more the labour does nothing for the scots just stop the tories which is downward race to the bottem
english parties r labour tories bnp ukip libdem
scottish parties r ssp snp solidarity scottish green
@MrScottishJamie Of course you hate Labour, you are SNP, a fascist, a nazi. the SNP are no different from the BNP, Plyd Cymru and Sinn Fein..all nazis in their own little way. the SNP is more right wing than the Tories.. When I was a serviceman, I had to lock up a drunken and violent Jock lout from the Black Watch, his best insult was, "see you pal, see your mither, shes a fuckin tory".
@MrMickroach right wing groups r nazis your a typical english saxon toff just because a group believes in independence does not mean they r fascist . SNP Dont disciminate they treat the english like the irish and welsh but the tories r fascist because they cant stop thinking about closing scottish businesses SNP More right wing than the tories SNP r centre left the tories r self admited right wing .
@MrScottishJamie There you go, Ein Volk, Ein Reich Ein Fuhrer! Just as Alex wants it! And thats what scares the majority of jocks. Tell me, which part of Caledonia are you from?
@MrScottishJamie Hitler hid behind democracy until he was in power. You watch Salmond! He is the most ungracious and racist creature in politics today, far,far worse than Nick Griffin
@MrMickroach why because he is against the english supremist punish the scots tory full devolution or independence would be good having better economy than 900 billion should not be to hard lol
@MrMickroach here you go, Ein Volk, Ein Reich Ein Fuhrer! Just as david cameron wants it! And thats what the majority of english like. Tell me, which part of england are you from?
@MrScottishJamie Sorry old son..we believe in democracy, you see there is this magic book called the Magna Carta, ever heard of that? I am from Tyneside, I live in Kent and have served in the military...my grandmother was a Colquhoun, a daughter of The Colquhoun...and I am a very proud British subject! Quite obviously you so fvar, have done fuck all for your country!
@MrMickroach u dont know what i have done proud to be british . british and english empire is the same thing we scots get it rough while u get nice big homes paid by the goverment and £500 a month dole. tories will never win in scotland u bad loser . SNP win by 69 Seats scotland so erm thats democracy . maybe the scots would not leave if the tories did not treat them terribly by closing scottish dockyards steel works taking scottish oil u greedy pigs have ruined the union
@MrMickroach the last good lm was winston churchhill then came thatcherism (punish the scots ) and england think it is divine right to dicate and bully the scots if u dont like scotland go home to england
@MrScottishJamie What bullshit....we have Westminster, the British parliament..we dont have the luxury, like the scots, of our own..so we get fucking scottish MPs voting on English matters and you tell me that the scots are punished? Blair brought 150 MPs fron Scotland into both scattish and English constituencies, so the scots had a more than fair share of representation and still you fucks whine. Then you get the lions share of the dibs, £1200 more than the Welsh and English and still you moan
@MrMickroach england votes on things on scotland with the powers of the union . This is because westminster is 80% english with full devolution england would have its own parliment scotland its own wales its own ireland its own and noone would moan well maybe the dicating english
@MrMickroach scottish mps voting on english matters is part of the union because english vote on our affairs if this was not the case the union would be very biased
@MrScottishJamie Quite obviously you dont understand devolution, English MPs cannot vote for any Scottish law apart from tax! It is extremely biased in favour of the jocks. For example, Englsih students have to pay student fees and have to take loans, now guess where the Labour government established the ENGLISH Student loan company?? In fucking glasgow with a bunch of jocks overseeing English students finances.talk about fair?? Dont give me fair, give to the scots and they still want more.
@MrMickroach Westminster is responsible for the wider economy, but Holyrood agrees a separate Budget for Scotland to cover all devolved policy areas, based on the three-year settlement received from the Treasury under the Barnett funding formula. found this under bbc where power lies u should check it out
Science policy is reserved to Westminster
Policy-making on defence and international relations is not devolved
health policy, such as abortion and embryology, are not devolved.
@MrMickroach english mps control most of scotland because of minor devolution u know nothing of modern studies i told u not to use the word jock u typical grumpy englishman . if we r meant to be united it means respecting both hollyrood and westminster and right now the english people dont respect holyrood at all
@MrScottishJamie And do you not understand why Englsih despise holyrood? Its because the English taxpayer is funding it....go and look it up in the OECD figures. Scoytland has a 9% unemployment rate, England has 6.5%. The biggest employer in Scitalnd is the Scottish NHS and we English pay for that, not holyrood. Now go and find out, then come back and aplogise.
@MrMickroach scotland has smaller population but we bring more to the uk coffers than england thats why we have higher spending per head learn how to spell you half wit u apologize for your awful spelling go back to primary school and learn how to spell
@MrMickroach england unemployment rate is very high scotlands problem og unemplyment is caused by the tories closing our steel works people cant work if there is no businesses becuase the the english close the scottish businesses to make stuck up engish pricks like u smile
@MrScottishJamie No, the numbers speak fopr them,selves, the unemployment rate in Scotland is far bigger than England and will get worse. The Scottish closed their own stell works and shipyards by the Unions pricing them out of business. So you can blame inate greed as the reason why they all closed....
@MrMickroach margeret thatcher and david cameron closed the work areas in scotland now uk has higher debt than ireland and russia and the dent went up when david cameron got it and put trident though
@MrScottishJamie No sonny, the Scottish unions closed scottish industry, Cameron hasnt been in office long enough to make a difference and Maggie did nothing, all she said if it doesnt make a profit, close it! Standard business me old china!
@MrMickroach Yes and who forced the scottish unions to make such drastic actions . The postive side of maggie is that r anti scottish view caused devolution and now snp in majority so soon the english cant close scotland jobs when they feel like it and now scottish people r the most employed in the uk .
@MrScottishJamie Er no, it was Maggs who created the silicon glen which encouraged hi tech industry to move to Scotland, and the jock unions shagged that as well! So now there are vast indusrial areas that have tumbleweed blowing down the streets. There are 7.5 million Scots in the UK and only 4.2 million live in Scotalnd. The Exchequer raises 35 billion from revenue in Scotland and yet, the jocks spend 78 billion, and who pays, well the English of course, Gratitude sonny, gratitude!
@MrMickroach lol the anti scottish argument does not stop from the little englander who cant even spell scotland lol keep it up your anti scottish banter will make us all the more ditch the uk and be a nation again and who pays for the english jobs the scots do because of old maggie and our oil . Tell me when england has only its resources to use what will england do then get a imf bailout no doubt haha .
@MrScottishJamie Well, it is not Scottish oil you fuckwit. Funny how you jockenese morons seem to rant about that. Now look at the sums old son, the English pay Scotland 43 billion so that fuckwits like you can whinge about misdeeds that never were. tell me, are you by any chance a catholic? If you want the tea leaves read, try history first and why the Act of Union 1707 happened...then like now, the jocks went bankrupt!
@MrMickroach yes there is south sea oil which is englands but its only 10% the major owners of the oil is scotland wales ireland and the eu iam not catholic u sectarian twit . yes lets try history the act of the union there was no referendum on joining and our economy was low because u bastards put a trade embargo on us. Now fuck off u englishstainy twit ok
@MrMickroach if u dont live in scotland it has nothing do with u ok and u wont get to vote on scottish affairs iam not catholic iam atheist . the reason iam atheist is because of relgious hatred such as the type of hatred
@MrMickroach its funny and annoying that david camerons big society is hating the scots at the same time wanting us all together every time a tory boy gets in power snp power rises and gains more power and more reasons for independence so get to fuck u anti scottish racist stop drinking the cider its not making u think straight lol lol
they did fight agianst us,but i,m sure any reasonable person would admit that we handled the 1916 thing the wrong way , almost criminally so.We brought in artillery and shot guys some of whom were hardly out their teens. They had no credibility before all that happend, and were a bit of a joke amongst the dubliners at that time. All that changed cos of our heavy handedness and needless brutality. We made them into Martyrs and in no time had the whole country agianst us.
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Who says we.ll al wave we flags?and then have a look at people playin the bagpipes...oooh it.ll be great!Then we,ll awe say"Scotland needs a champion"Then we.ll awe watch a wee film supposed tobe aboot things that happend800YEARS AGO!!...Then we,ll awe say"the bloody English".....well then we,llsay "the english" are to blamefor EVERYTHING",,Then we,ll awe tell a few porkies( aboot England) then we,ll waffle oan n oan aboot mytholgy and fantasy,s...SOUNDS ..DAFT.AND IT IS!!But not if yur theSNP!
This so called "scottish" "national" Party has FILLED SCOTTISH TOWNSAND CITYS with NON white , MOSTLY ISLAMIC Immigrants!!!AND then BEGS the same people for VOTES!! THIS "national"!!PARTY.let a convicted MASS MURDERER out of prison ,mso it could get ISLAMIC VOTES!! These EVILSEPRATIST BUFFOONS., preach hatred and distrust towards our fellow WHITE ,cousins. OUR forefathers builtBritian from nothing.using only their own industry, their own determination. . the sepratists have nothing to offer.
@Irishmen and Dubliners cant believe what has happened to their city and country.thru Non White immigration.Same for Glasgow and rest of Scotland and Britian. there is NO Difference between the indigenous White Nordic Races that make up the British people as a whole.The SEPRATISTS get all misty eyed and sentimental about so called "Kings "(Gangsters actually) thatlived 800!!YEARS AGO!!I........I ,,and people like me,desire the unity of the WHOLE of the British people,and thats no FANTASY.....
The people here who are banging on about "independence" are deluded if they think that Scotland is better off by destroying the UK. Really come on guys don't fall for this populist bullshit. We are more than the sum of our parts Alex Salmond is a populist bullshitting bigot. Fuck the SNP, united we stand!
@aggroman7 Well i suppose the supply of gas and oil is an advantage, but scotland also has benifits over then taxes and more taxes, scotland has 10% more spent on its citys then citys in england and wales, obviousely because im english i want scotland to remain part of the uk, i just think theres to much history involved, i mean wales was conquered almost 700-800 years ago but there identity is still welsh, its still wales not england, the same with scotland.
@topmarkms So you think its ok to conquer and ocupy other peoples country,s ?,and yous wonder why the scots want freedom! and why youre nation is not poular around the world!
@topmarkms No country has the right to conquer,and ocupy another no matter how the people are treated afterwords.We faught the germans for doing the same thing.
@1966thewallace Funny how such a racist cretin as you has the front to comment about a race not being popualr, when it is obvious to the meanest intelligence that the furthets you have been overseas is to the Isle of Bute!
@MrMickroach How am am i a racist ya prick!! ive obviously hit a nerve , but ask just about every country in europe ,the middle east, ireland, wales,australia if you,s are not popular.Ive been a wee bit further than the isle of bute,serving the uk over the years fighting its wars, so FUCK YOU !!! ya silly wee boy, go run home to mummy.
@1966thewallace The only fucking wars you have enjoyed is with the palm of your hand and your dick, you lying twat! So stop your fantasy you cunt, thats from one who knows better!
@MrMickroach So youre changing youre tune?d oesent change the fact that youre own king !!!! was a traitor .English nazi loving scum bag!!!! bet you he wasnt happy we were fighting his freinds eh??.
@1966thewallace No sonny, but the British King and his Scottish wife led this country through WW2 totally opposed to Hitler. And now we have Scottish nationalists, the last bastion of nazis in Europe.
@MrMickroach You have no answer to my last point, do u sonny!!? no matter how you try and worm youre way out of it, you cant defeat the truth!!!!. His brother and his scottish wife taking over doesent change the fact that the,future king the pinnacle of the british establishment was a dirty wee nazi loving traitor!!!!!! .
@MrMickroach Yes i know it is ya dick,the sight of all those royals standing in their shiny uniforms ,with more medals on their chest than a russian general.Makes us veterans laugh ! they must have seen some amount of action to get all those.
@1966thewallace Prince Andrew, a decirated pilot of Operation Corporate...The Duke of Edinburgh, a highly decorated naval oficer of WW2 who saw action in the Operation Dynamo, the Med, Overlord and was present at the Jap surrender. Oh yes, and then we have a twat like you who is nothing more than a walt, a fucking wanabe hero whose only acquaintance with a uniform is the one that locks you up every sauirday night for drunken fighting. You filthy liar
@MrMickroach How many medals did he get for the falklands ? 1 campain medal .What battles did phil the greek fight in? big deal he was at the jap surrender on the missouri that proves nothing, was he in jungle mud with the jocks?? thaught not ya scummy english bastard!!!!! the only liars are youre plastic warrior royals, stuck in the rear with the gear.PSlearn to spell dickhead!!.
@1966thewallace Oh yes, and you have the MC I suppose? Or is it the DFC maybe?? You lying piece of FRISP shit! Walts like you are a joke....you never wore a uniform and you stand on the graves of those who have died serving, you disgusting window sucking mong!
@MrMickroach Sorry pal i dont have any of those medals just some tour medals and one for operation granby,didnt do it for the medals but ithink mine were better earned than youre poxy royals!! KNOBEND THAT YOU ARE!!!
@1966thewallace There you go..now you didnt do it for the medals, so what did you do it for? Why did you swear an oath of allegiance to HM the Queen Her Heirs and successors??? Did you fuck you walt!
@scotland638 The clue sherlock, is in the fucking name, like the BNP, Sinn Fein and Plyd Cymru, they are nationalists, therefore nazis you fuckwit. Cor give us strength
@MrMickroach Are you realy that stupid ? The SNP ... Scotland's pro-independence moderate left-of-centre party,doesn't sound like nazis ya fcking idiot does it ? before you continue to make a complete cunt of yourself you should make sure you know what the fck you are talking about.
@scotland638 Courtney, the clue is in the name "NATIONAL" party. Exactly the same as BNP, Sinn Fein and Ply Cymru. Fascists! Now bugger off you pathetic FRISP!
@MrMickroach You really are that stupid,the name "NATIONAL" in the SNP's name does not mean they are fascists,they are nothing like the BNP,before you start throwing accusations around try looking at what the party stands for.You're typical of the idiots on YT now.
@scotland638 Oh for fucks sake, what is the whole reason for life of the SNP?? Scottish nationalism...therefore nazis, therefore Scotland for the Scots. Ein Reich, Ein Volk Ein Fuhrer!"
@MrMickroach What is the whole reason for the SNP ? independence ya idiot.Scotland welcomes all nationalities and religions,even dumb Englishmen like yourself,unfortunately.
@scotland638 I care not about what Scotland does, I just dont expect our money from England to be used to fund it! You want to go it alone, you fucking well pay for it, and then it will not be long ebfore there is another Acts of Union like 1707. Most jocks who want the SNP are council house scum who for some inexplicable reason think they will become rich.
@MrMickroach Ha ha usual shite Engaylish propaganda,believe me if England subsidised us you cunts would have cut us loose long ago,we more than pay our way,hence the reason i want away from the bloody english dragging us down.And you can keep our oil,it's a small price to be rid of you.
Boris Johnson wants our water lol he can go fuck himself,let england solve it's own drought problem without us.
This video is retarded! There are so many problems with it, i dont know what to comment on first? The majorty of comments on this video are just as retarded and the people commenting on them really need to leanr there history and politics before making a ignorant comment or attempting to spread hate across the UK.
The majority of Rangers fans are Scottish and i only hope they support Scottish Independence. The SNP gained seats in the central belt of Scotland which has the majority of Rangers fans.
Also, what most people are beginning to realise is that Scottish independence means the end of the political union and NOT the end of the Royal Union.
We will still have Queen Elizabeth as head of state.
The bigots can still shout " God Save The Queen " at their football games.
i am not the english or scottish, but i think both these two countries would be foolish to throw away what you already have. you achieved more together then you ever would apart. the uk is one of the few suceess stories of history , european union has failed
look at irelands failing economy as an example, its a new world world we live in now, scotland will not last long and as geetarwanabe said, you will just become a bitch of the eu whats even worse!,scotlands still scotland it always will be, but its better off being a partner with england.
I wonder how many of you inbreds have an image of william wallace shouting "FREEDOME", this guy is going to ruin our economy, we will go on the euro and be germanies bitch as a "new" country into the EU rather than apart of the UK.
We need england, wither you want to admit it or not.
& STAND UP TO THE ISRAEL/AMERICA PACT OVER PALESTINE!
Palestinians have to live on only 15% of regular supplies DUE TO THE ILLEGAL ISRAELI BLAOCKADE WHICH HAS STOOD FOR DECADES. Or are we just another U.S. lap dog state now?
Alex Salmond, you are the finest politician of our times.
Stay true to your word and do Scotland justice, make us proud.
May 6th will truly be a monumental day for Scotland.
Independence may not be immediate, but it will happen, such is the will of the Scottish people since time immemorial.
If Scotland does not get her independence, do not point the finger at England, but point it at Westminster. Far too long have they gone about their cloaks and daggers business.
Dr Finlay claims: "Gibb believed Scotland had done more than its fair share of founding the British Empire, but he also thought the English were benefiting more than the Scots.
"He saw communism as more of a menace than Nazi Germany.
"Those who felt working with the Nazis would secure home rule were not stooges - they wanted independence in Scotland. The Germans had fairly wide knowledge of the independence movements because they had infiltrated them.
A FOUNDING father of the SNP plotted with the Nazis in the hope they could help Scotland gain independence.
Andrew Dewar Gibb QC, who was one of the country's top lawyers, met messengers from Hitler's regime keen to ally themselves with Scotland, a new book claims.
Dewar Gibb, who was a known admirer of right-wing leaders such as the Italian fascist dictator Mussolini, became chairman of the newly- formed Scottish National Party in 1936 and held the post until 1940
@1966thewallace Soppy twat. He wasnt allowed to be King because as head of the Church, he was marrying a none Commonwealth adulteress! Funny how you pathetic cretins like to chnage history to fit with your warped mindset!
@MrMickroach Say what you like ya english prick!! you cant change the fact that he was a hitler and nazi fan !!! watch the discovery channell if you dont beleive me.
@1966thewallace The fact that he was in league with Hitler is not a secret, nor is it a secret that Ireland jumped into bed with Hitler as did the Scottish nationlists in 1938, the most rampant being interned for the duration, the filthy treasonous cunts.
(1) WHAT CONSTITUTES A WINNNING MAJORITY-IS IT 50 % PLUS 1 PERSON
OR A CERTAIN HIGHER LEVEL (2/3)? HOW WILL QUESTION BE WORDED- FULL INDEPENCE-SOVERNIGTY- ASSOCIATION, COMMMON MONARCH?
(2) DO PARTS OF SCOTLAND HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN IN THE UNION? EXAMPLE FROM U.S. HISTORY -VIRGINIA VOTES TO LEAVE UNION BUT WESTERN COUNTY REFUSE SECEESION- HENCE THE CREATION OF WEST VIRGINIA
(3) IN 1933 REFEREDUM IN AUSTRIALA-WESTERN AUSTRILLIA VOTES TO SECEDE- VOTE WAS NULLIFIED
@segeno1--You act if you had already won the referendum. Most Scots like myself want a degree of autonomy but not full independence. Besides, Scotland would have to be part of EU-Hence Brussels would still call the shots.
Lets keep this debate professional-when you start name calling and using obscene language -it shows the weakness in your arguments
@ segeno1. The Shetlands were once an independent nation until the 12 century. Shall you allow the people of the Shetlands to hold a vote to regain their nationhood?
What about Ulster Scots in Northern Ireland? They need the support of the United Kingdom.
Your rude, unprofessional comments "stinky smelly unionist" show a lack of maturity in your debate and reasoning.
United we stand- divided we fail. More autonomy / self government . Yes!
@xingichaun007 Wrong, the Shetlands was always part of Scotland from the beginning, the Scottish Picts were the original inhabitants of the land until it was invaded and taken over by Vikings, hence why for a while it become a Norweigian territory, until Scotland gained it back in the 14th century.
Only cancerous unionist disease ridden disastrous unionists would say other wise as it suits and helps their political views on union.
@xingichaun007 Keep trying to bring up new pathetic excuses as to why Scotland should not govern itself, it's pathetic as fuck, the union with these southern foreigners down south is a cancerous disease ridden disaster, there is no denying that fact now.
More Autonomy will suffice for Scotland for now, but independence is a question of 'When' not ' 'if', and nothing will change that.As for Shetland wanting independence? they can have it if they want, but none would, as they know who they are.
if snp recieved a Huge amount of money from wherever then it could be debated but 1947? what are we talking about here 300 million pounds or 2,000 pounds from an unknown source at the time? snp is loyal to scotland not england and that maks a problem for downing st.
so what if their really is some record of "funds recieved" from Any extremist organization Anywhere its plain as bnp being wholly racist that SNP is the polar Opposite of Hatred its about breaking away from a country that is holding another country back! always a weak english argument somewhere in these posts!
UNITED KINGDOM-STAY UNITED. A 100 years ago this debate would never happen. Scots beware of separatism..yes more autonomy etc.etc. but no outright separation
that is true over the founder of the SNP and the money given by the NAZI party.
also how can Alex Salmond be buckie born and bread which is what he said to get elected in the first place and also the last election from Linlithgow. both claims he has made.
as well his constituents pay the second highest council tax in the uk and Aberdeenshire have a large majority snp council in Scotland how does he hide these facts from people
i know how put snp on a sheep and the Rtards will vote for it
i find it odd how they try to hide their parties past in helping German POW's to escape and the founder of the SNP received moneys off the NAZI party the same as the Irish in the 1930's.
and to top it off the founder was anti Jewish as well, which is odd that a person of Jewish ancestry is now the leader of the SNP
@peacefrog1916 why would i be having a laugh, it is all out there just type in a google founder of the snp and the nazis there's about 24000 pages take your pick. there are some a bit egsadurated but its true.
also type in Neil MacCormick and the nazis
i can not be bothered arguing its not worth my time
I was listening to the radio this morning about a Scottish member of parliament contemplating departure from the Union with the UK, as their budget deficit would be like 3 billion GBP as opposed to the other. Scotland is like northern Ireland now wanting to leave the UK....?
There is absolutely no difference between the people who live in different sides of Great Britain. It is perfectly possible to live happily together as a single, prosperous, country.
To achieve Independence, you'd have to get out of Europe (won't happen), break away from Brussels (won't happen) and get Arabs to sell you back your land (again won't happen). Then you'll complain about the SNP's soft-touch jail system, no justice rights, immigration, etc. Good luck with that. :L
Hey runrome, all those handouts from westminster and you still can't spell!! As for 1scot4scotland, England's problem IS Scotland. We support you with subsidies from London and you still bloody complain!! You wouldn't survive on your own, maybe Libia could help.... they like you now! Did you enjoy seeing the St Andrew's cross flying in Tripoli??
@garth04 Scotland has a net input into the Treasury. Scotland has 62.4% of the EU's oil reserves, 12% gas; 69% of the UK's coal reserves; and around 25% of Europe's wave, tidal, and wind renewable energies. Scotland's called the Saudi Arabia of Europe for good reason.
As for spelling... (if we're writing in English) where exactly is Libia? You possibly meant Libya, rather than labia? I realise, you being English, knowledge of foreign countries might not be your strong point.
im english & i know a lot of people who would love to vote for the snp if we were allowed, im all for a total break up of the u.k. england for the English, scotland for the scottish etc, cant wait!
@danielthomasslade Agreed. I say bring it on too. That's not to say I harbour any ill feeling towards England. On the contrary it's a great country and I love visiting. However as I'm sure you'll appreciate this "union" does not work for anyone except the politicians. "Le
Saor Alba!!!
roccosilverstar 2 weeks ago
worst thing that will ever hapen to scotland
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ScottishRepublican 3 weeks ago
STICK IT UP YOUR HAGGIS COATED ASS! FUCK THE SNP-
VOTE NO ON INDEPENDENCE! it will be like living next door to iran!
TheJaaysog 1 month ago
Vote NO for independence, it'll be the Scottish equivalent of the Third Reich
jamie24cfc 2 months ago
FUCK THE SNP
jamie24cfc 2 months ago
the snp are cultural marxists
billybob7ful 3 months ago
@aggroman7 well answer the question then. Also what about people who live in places like Bermuda and the Falklands, if Scotland breaks away whose passports will they hold? Also, why don't the SNP think of the benefits that come from being in a country as awesome as the UK? surely it's worked out for them?
thelastamericandude 4 months ago
The surname Salmond is of Anglo-Saxon origin. Your leader is a Sassenach! AHAHHAHAHAHA! Oh the irony of it! Priceless!
whitbyjet65 6 months ago
@KeepEuropeWhite I will reply in KISS for you:- £35 billion income to the exchequer from scotland - but public spending was around £78 billion. Meaning a subsidy from Westminster of approximately £43 billion. We English taxpayers fund that you ingrate! And 58 per cent of economic activity in Scotland flowed from public spending, compared with 41 per cent across the England, Wales and NI. Shall I go on?
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach GERS Report Shows Scotland subsidises UK, says Professor Andrew Hughes Hallett
scotlands economy 91billion with 18.6 billion in trade and guess what scotland is making profit how is the uk doing with its erm debt of over 900 billion
powers this 1 is obvious england has a say in scottish affairs and the wars it gets involved in erm iraq
unfair union - the tories take scotlands oil margeret thatcher the tories take scotlands budget david cameron
MrScottishJamie 7 months ago
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MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Another rant about how the oil that is brought ashore in Scotaldn belings to them, without that there would be nothing. Scotland has no industrty, Scotland has now ealth generators to speka of, so when hallet removes the oil, Scotland is bankrupt and dependant as always, on the ENGLISH taxpayer. The numbers I have given are numbers right from the OECD. So stop stroking yourself jock, as a Union Scotland has a future, without it, it will be bankrupt within two years!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach blommin hell more jock bashing from a englisman who cannot spell lol . england has control of oil 10% and the scottish oil 25% and the welsh and irish oil and my numbers r straight from the GERS REPORT england is bankrupt and dependent on the scottish balance england does not subidise scotland because scotland does not have full devolution then extra from england dont call me jock ever its racist drop the scotophobia
MrScottishJamie 7 months ago
@MrMickroach keep your anglo nose out our affairs and money then scotland has a lot of INDUSTRY such as medicals drinks and food and oil and green energy what is 18.6 billion a year scotlands
MrScottishJamie 7 months ago
@MrMickroach i heard the english wont be getting a vote on the independence good u dont deserve a say this is a issue for the scots and the ? is westminster got a right in scotland
MrScottishJamie 7 months ago
@MrScottishJamie If thats what you twerps want, it will be a pleasure to watch the drip stop and you lot grubbing around whinging about money! Just remember, we give you greedy and ingrate "people" £44 billion....Are you worth it?? Hell no! Best remember sonny, there are 50 million people in England and only just over 4 million "up there". Like 1698 you will all conspire to fuck it up!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach u need to ask yourself a ? if england does subidise scotland why e the lib lab con wanted no referendum does norway whine about money no neither will scotland is the scottish lord a traitor hell yes
how the union was formed 1 scottish lord said yes but because there was so many english lords and it was based on the uk and not each country the union was formed if it was modern democracy it would be a no vote from scotland . scotland was independent for 500 years before the union
MrScottishJamie 7 months ago
@MrMickroach greedy ? coming from the westminster and the tories who take and take of scotland and scotland just gives and gives blindly scotland should protest to give england not 1 pound and we dont want any dirty money from england either
MrScottishJamie 7 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Take and Take just WHAT from Scotland? There is fuc all there to take old son, are you barmy or what? 40% of the workforce in Scotland, work for the Government. However what you are saying, you dont want to take that £44 billion any more. So how will pick up the shortfall??? The tooth fairy?
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach well margeret thatcher the oil and now david cameron scottish budget cut . scotland gives money to westminster and gets pocket change back day light robbery on englands side laughing its way to there dodgy banks where do u get the 44 billion from heres a small guess the 90 billion we give you next the tories want our water greedy bastards . will scotland be better of with 44 billion staying in the uk or 90 billion leaving do the math man dont beg for money which is not yours ok !
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie You dont get it do you, it is not Scottish oil, it is only brought ashore in Scotland you twerp. England, Wales and NI also pay into the kitty, but per head, we all get £1200 less in subsidy than the jocks. In revenue Scotland raises $ 35 billion for the exchequer and takes £78 billion in return, so stop believing the rhetoric you are being fed by the fascist Salmond and his blue shirts. Scotland is almost bankrupt now, without the English taxpayer, it will be a basket case
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach scotland is not bankrupt the scottish oil all paid into the english kitty by margeret thatcher its a shame english control the scottish powers the teleqraph let out the info of the economy in scotland at 90 billion look up in bbc where power lies alex salmond a fascist he is not 1 he wants scots to have control of things in scotland instead of the english having a say in scotland the real fascists r the white supremist nigel farage and nick griffin so the fascist r far right
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach scotland is getting fed up of being told no by westminster when the scots want to say yes
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach england will be very much in debt without scotland bailing them out happy nuke building to even bigger debt its a shame england does not have a real that look after its people instead heavy taxes and pay for everything lol oh well oh well
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie You are hung up on this silly apocrypha about Scotland, 40% of the workforce are public servants.....there is no indigenous industry in Scotland, and if we didnt have to dib the jocks on, we would be £44 billion better off, and no fucking whinging from you either!
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach keep dreaming that. thats just info that the union parties made up to tell scots be happy what u have and to tell them we english like controling you most work force is in the trade area Professor Andrew Hughes Hallett knows what the economy of scotland is and the union tried to hide the mcrone report most of the industry mostly was closed by the fascist tories. but scotland still has over 12 billion in trade
Professor Andrew Hughes Hallett
mcrone report
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach STOP calling me a jock you saxon german
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie FRISP is more apt...that is the name used by the Royal Navy to describe one of your breed!
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach and your breed is greedy english neds
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie I bet it was a shock to have an English person tell you what they think about you lot. In your insular little jock world, you constantly whinge and yet the English taxpayer quietly accepts that they subsidise you ingrates tp the tune of 3 to one. It is coming, but we English are getting sick you you minority gobshotes always claiming that "its Scotlands oil" and that you support the English. The truth shows just how deluded and fanciful your fantasy
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach it was scotlands oil before margeret thatcher took it all so we subidise you in the ways of oil yet u get to vote for things in scotland mad huh thats why the union parties dont want scotland independence because of scotland pulls out uk economy drops dramaticly how ever scotlands economy would be as powerful as or more than norway
mrcrone report is leaked out . the mcrone report is a report on how much scotland gives to the uk in the case of oil and its very high
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie No it wasnt you tube! Scotland subsidises fuck all, it takes, takes and then takes ome more. There is no indigenous industry in Scotland that would sustain it through partition, and if you believe that fascist ranting from salmond, you are cunt! If Scotland pulls out of the UK, Glenrothes would die...all of the hi tech would shut down, all of the Governemnt agencies would close. Are you really that stupid? Scotland, I gives nothing, repeat nothing, it only takes
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach well the mcrone report which the english tried to hide tells other wise scotland has oil just because it is now british does not mean all of it belongs to england all trade money of scotland goes to england when it should stay in scotland it would be intresting to know what the english economy would be if scotland pulled out my guess bigger debt right now 900 billion in debt and scotland shock is in credit
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach england is fascist it just takes and takes and moans about irish debt when erm the uk debt is higher look up the uk debt clock and scotland is in surplus why because scotland gets a fixed budget then holyrood decided what to do with the money yet england still moans about the small lump they give us while they get the large chunk of scottish money and oil if it was the other way about the englsh would moan like fuck got an idea we have westminster u have a fixed budget lol
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie The UK debt is high because of the jockenese mafia of Bliar and Mrs Broon creating none jobs in Scotland, 40% of the jockenese workforce are publice servants! And Scotland spends £78 billion and generates only £35 billion in exchequer revenue, The rest of us have to give the jocks another £44 billion for their creaking little empire.
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach the scots vote english labour to stop the english tories taking from scotland and closing scottish industry which is dumb way to stop the tories in my opinion the best way is scottish independence that way no one subsidies anyone and no one can about it blair and brown r british nationals alex salmond tommy sheridan is scottish nationals . Labour betrayed scotland to help england good it might encourge people to vote snp instead of your english communist labour .
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach iam not a labour guy i dislike labour as much as you maybe even proberly even more the labour does nothing for the scots just stop the tories which is downward race to the bottem
english parties r labour tories bnp ukip libdem
scottish parties r ssp snp solidarity scottish green
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Of course you hate Labour, you are SNP, a fascist, a nazi. the SNP are no different from the BNP, Plyd Cymru and Sinn Fein..all nazis in their own little way. the SNP is more right wing than the Tories.. When I was a serviceman, I had to lock up a drunken and violent Jock lout from the Black Watch, his best insult was, "see you pal, see your mither, shes a fuckin tory".
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach right wing groups r nazis your a typical english saxon toff just because a group believes in independence does not mean they r fascist . SNP Dont disciminate they treat the english like the irish and welsh but the tories r fascist because they cant stop thinking about closing scottish businesses SNP More right wing than the tories SNP r centre left the tories r self admited right wing .
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie I see just like any other cretin of your ilk, you have banned me from commenting on your oage. You bloody coward
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach SNP r CENTRE LEFT the tories - right wing
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach the scot was proberly right all english r tories lol a 1 party country
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie There you go, Ein Volk, Ein Reich Ein Fuhrer! Just as Alex wants it! And thats what scares the majority of jocks. Tell me, which part of Caledonia are you from?
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach u should know what a nazi is the english r saxons off spring of the germans !
a party would have to be right wing to be nazi the snp r left wing the tories r right wing
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach so u r the nazi not me
snp won majority so quit moaning its democracy
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Hitler hid behind democracy until he was in power. You watch Salmond! He is the most ungracious and racist creature in politics today, far,far worse than Nick Griffin
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach why because he is against the english supremist punish the scots tory full devolution or independence would be good having better economy than 900 billion should not be to hard lol
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach here you go, Ein Volk, Ein Reich Ein Fuhrer! Just as david cameron wants it! And thats what the majority of english like. Tell me, which part of england are you from?
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Sorry old son..we believe in democracy, you see there is this magic book called the Magna Carta, ever heard of that? I am from Tyneside, I live in Kent and have served in the military...my grandmother was a Colquhoun, a daughter of The Colquhoun...and I am a very proud British subject! Quite obviously you so fvar, have done fuck all for your country!
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach u dont know what i have done proud to be british . british and english empire is the same thing we scots get it rough while u get nice big homes paid by the goverment and £500 a month dole. tories will never win in scotland u bad loser . SNP win by 69 Seats scotland so erm thats democracy . maybe the scots would not leave if the tories did not treat them terribly by closing scottish dockyards steel works taking scottish oil u greedy pigs have ruined the union
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach the last good lm was winston churchhill then came thatcherism (punish the scots ) and england think it is divine right to dicate and bully the scots if u dont like scotland go home to england
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie What bullshit....we have Westminster, the British parliament..we dont have the luxury, like the scots, of our own..so we get fucking scottish MPs voting on English matters and you tell me that the scots are punished? Blair brought 150 MPs fron Scotland into both scattish and English constituencies, so the scots had a more than fair share of representation and still you fucks whine. Then you get the lions share of the dibs, £1200 more than the Welsh and English and still you moan
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach england votes on things on scotland with the powers of the union . This is because westminster is 80% english with full devolution england would have its own parliment scotland its own wales its own ireland its own and noone would moan well maybe the dicating english
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach scottish mps voting on english matters is part of the union because english vote on our affairs if this was not the case the union would be very biased
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Quite obviously you dont understand devolution, English MPs cannot vote for any Scottish law apart from tax! It is extremely biased in favour of the jocks. For example, Englsih students have to pay student fees and have to take loans, now guess where the Labour government established the ENGLISH Student loan company?? In fucking glasgow with a bunch of jocks overseeing English students finances.talk about fair?? Dont give me fair, give to the scots and they still want more.
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach Westminster is responsible for the wider economy, but Holyrood agrees a separate Budget for Scotland to cover all devolved policy areas, based on the three-year settlement received from the Treasury under the Barnett funding formula. found this under bbc where power lies u should check it out
Science policy is reserved to Westminster
Policy-making on defence and international relations is not devolved
health policy, such as abortion and embryology, are not devolved.
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach english mps control most of scotland because of minor devolution u know nothing of modern studies i told u not to use the word jock u typical grumpy englishman . if we r meant to be united it means respecting both hollyrood and westminster and right now the english people dont respect holyrood at all
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie And do you not understand why Englsih despise holyrood? Its because the English taxpayer is funding it....go and look it up in the OECD figures. Scoytland has a 9% unemployment rate, England has 6.5%. The biggest employer in Scitalnd is the Scottish NHS and we English pay for that, not holyrood. Now go and find out, then come back and aplogise.
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach scotland has smaller population but we bring more to the uk coffers than england thats why we have higher spending per head learn how to spell you half wit u apologize for your awful spelling go back to primary school and learn how to spell
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrMickroach england unemployment rate is very high scotlands problem og unemplyment is caused by the tories closing our steel works people cant work if there is no businesses becuase the the english close the scottish businesses to make stuck up engish pricks like u smile
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie No, the numbers speak fopr them,selves, the unemployment rate in Scotland is far bigger than England and will get worse. The Scottish closed their own stell works and shipyards by the Unions pricing them out of business. So you can blame inate greed as the reason why they all closed....
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach margeret thatcher and david cameron closed the work areas in scotland now uk has higher debt than ireland and russia and the dent went up when david cameron got it and put trident though
MrScottishJamie 6 months ago
@MrScottishJamie No sonny, the Scottish unions closed scottish industry, Cameron hasnt been in office long enough to make a difference and Maggie did nothing, all she said if it doesnt make a profit, close it! Standard business me old china!
MrMickroach 6 months ago
@MrMickroach Yes and who forced the scottish unions to make such drastic actions . The postive side of maggie is that r anti scottish view caused devolution and now snp in majority so soon the english cant close scotland jobs when they feel like it and now scottish people r the most employed in the uk .
MrScottishJamie 4 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Er no, it was Maggs who created the silicon glen which encouraged hi tech industry to move to Scotland, and the jock unions shagged that as well! So now there are vast indusrial areas that have tumbleweed blowing down the streets. There are 7.5 million Scots in the UK and only 4.2 million live in Scotalnd. The Exchequer raises 35 billion from revenue in Scotland and yet, the jocks spend 78 billion, and who pays, well the English of course, Gratitude sonny, gratitude!
MrMickroach 4 months ago
@MrMickroach lol the anti scottish argument does not stop from the little englander who cant even spell scotland lol keep it up your anti scottish banter will make us all the more ditch the uk and be a nation again and who pays for the english jobs the scots do because of old maggie and our oil . Tell me when england has only its resources to use what will england do then get a imf bailout no doubt haha .
MrScottishJamie 4 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Well, it is not Scottish oil you fuckwit. Funny how you jockenese morons seem to rant about that. Now look at the sums old son, the English pay Scotland 43 billion so that fuckwits like you can whinge about misdeeds that never were. tell me, are you by any chance a catholic? If you want the tea leaves read, try history first and why the Act of Union 1707 happened...then like now, the jocks went bankrupt!
MrMickroach 4 months ago
@MrMickroach yes there is south sea oil which is englands but its only 10% the major owners of the oil is scotland wales ireland and the eu iam not catholic u sectarian twit . yes lets try history the act of the union there was no referendum on joining and our economy was low because u bastards put a trade embargo on us. Now fuck off u englishstainy twit ok
MrScottishJamie 4 months ago
@MrMickroach scotland has nothing to do with u
MrScottishJamie 4 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Oh but it does old son, it does indeed have everything to do with me you pathetic clown! Again, are you a catholic?
MrMickroach 4 months ago
@MrMickroach if u dont live in scotland it has nothing do with u ok and u wont get to vote on scottish affairs iam not catholic iam atheist . the reason iam atheist is because of relgious hatred such as the type of hatred
MrScottishJamie 4 months ago
@MrScottishJamie Like the hatred of the English? You silly child! Come back when your voice breaks!
MrMickroach 4 months ago
@MrMickroach its funny and annoying that david camerons big society is hating the scots at the same time wanting us all together every time a tory boy gets in power snp power rises and gains more power and more reasons for independence so get to fuck u anti scottish racist stop drinking the cider its not making u think straight lol lol
MrScottishJamie 4 months ago
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2BarKawi 7 months ago
Please by all means, have a referendum, and fuck off.
2BarKawi 7 months ago
Listen ya fuckin english prick!!! how the fuck am i lying, you dont know me or what ive don.What the fuck do you know anyway?PRICK!!!!
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace Walt what the fuck do u think you are ya prick, you dont know me or what ive done so fuck you .
1966thewallace 7 months ago
they did fight agianst us,but i,m sure any reasonable person would admit that we handled the 1916 thing the wrong way , almost criminally so.We brought in artillery and shot guys some of whom were hardly out their teens. They had no credibility before all that happend, and were a bit of a joke amongst the dubliners at that time. All that changed cos of our heavy handedness and needless brutality. We made them into Martyrs and in no time had the whole country agianst us.
NOVATICANWARS 7 months ago
AWe Hoots MON! Bliddy Ungleish .help ma boab! jings ye kenthiv bin keepiniz doon fur 1500yrs hoots mon! blidy pus.rakuted uz so the bliddy well did HOOTS mon help ma boab, Brrrraa.pp brrraappblidy kanageta blidy Joab ura burd blddy unglish iiz goat thim awe Hoots mon! Jingz ...n awe that ye ken!
NOVATICANWARS 7 months ago
Who says we.ll al wave we flags?and then have a look at people playin the bagpipes...oooh it.ll be great!Then we,ll awe say"Scotland needs a champion"Then we.ll awe watch a wee film supposed tobe aboot things that happend800YEARS AGO!!...Then we,ll awe say"the bloody English".....well then we,llsay "the english" are to blamefor EVERYTHING",,Then we,ll awe tell a few porkies( aboot England) then we,ll waffle oan n oan aboot mytholgy and fantasy,s...SOUNDS ..DAFT.AND IT IS!!But not if yur theSNP!
NOVATICANWARS 7 months ago
This so called "scottish" "national" Party has FILLED SCOTTISH TOWNSAND CITYS with NON white , MOSTLY ISLAMIC Immigrants!!!AND then BEGS the same people for VOTES!! THIS "national"!!PARTY.let a convicted MASS MURDERER out of prison ,mso it could get ISLAMIC VOTES!! These EVILSEPRATIST BUFFOONS., preach hatred and distrust towards our fellow WHITE ,cousins. OUR forefathers builtBritian from nothing.using only their own industry, their own determination. . the sepratists have nothing to offer.
NOVATICANWARS 7 months ago
@NOVATICANWARS You are full of shit ,you racist twat.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@Irishmen and Dubliners cant believe what has happened to their city and country.thru Non White immigration.Same for Glasgow and rest of Scotland and Britian. there is NO Difference between the indigenous White Nordic Races that make up the British people as a whole.The SEPRATISTS get all misty eyed and sentimental about so called "Kings "(Gangsters actually) thatlived 800!!YEARS AGO!!I........I ,,and people like me,desire the unity of the WHOLE of the British people,and thats no FANTASY.....
NOVATICANWARS 7 months ago
The people here who are banging on about "independence" are deluded if they think that Scotland is better off by destroying the UK. Really come on guys don't fall for this populist bullshit. We are more than the sum of our parts Alex Salmond is a populist bullshitting bigot. Fuck the SNP, united we stand!
johnnystoppard 8 months ago
@aggroman7 Well i suppose the supply of gas and oil is an advantage, but scotland also has benifits over then taxes and more taxes, scotland has 10% more spent on its citys then citys in england and wales, obviousely because im english i want scotland to remain part of the uk, i just think theres to much history involved, i mean wales was conquered almost 700-800 years ago but there identity is still welsh, its still wales not england, the same with scotland.
topmarkms 8 months ago
@topmarkms So you think its ok to conquer and ocupy other peoples country,s ?,and yous wonder why the scots want freedom! and why youre nation is not poular around the world!
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace That all depends on how you treat them.
topmarkms 7 months ago
@topmarkms No country has the right to conquer,and ocupy another no matter how the people are treated afterwords.We faught the germans for doing the same thing.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace Funny how such a racist cretin as you has the front to comment about a race not being popualr, when it is obvious to the meanest intelligence that the furthets you have been overseas is to the Isle of Bute!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach How am am i a racist ya prick!! ive obviously hit a nerve , but ask just about every country in europe ,the middle east, ireland, wales,australia if you,s are not popular.Ive been a wee bit further than the isle of bute,serving the uk over the years fighting its wars, so FUCK YOU !!! ya silly wee boy, go run home to mummy.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace The only fucking wars you have enjoyed is with the palm of your hand and your dick, you lying twat! So stop your fantasy you cunt, thats from one who knows better!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach So youre changing youre tune?d oesent change the fact that youre own king !!!! was a traitor .English nazi loving scum bag!!!! bet you he wasnt happy we were fighting his freinds eh??.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace No sonny, but the British King and his Scottish wife led this country through WW2 totally opposed to Hitler. And now we have Scottish nationalists, the last bastion of nazis in Europe.
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach You have no answer to my last point, do u sonny!!? no matter how you try and worm youre way out of it, you cant defeat the truth!!!!. His brother and his scottish wife taking over doesent change the fact that the,future king the pinnacle of the british establishment was a dirty wee nazi loving traitor!!!!!! .
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace The only worm is one who claims to have been in uniform, but never was. You fucking walt!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach Yes i know it is ya dick,the sight of all those royals standing in their shiny uniforms ,with more medals on their chest than a russian general.Makes us veterans laugh ! they must have seen some amount of action to get all those.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace Prince Andrew, a decirated pilot of Operation Corporate...The Duke of Edinburgh, a highly decorated naval oficer of WW2 who saw action in the Operation Dynamo, the Med, Overlord and was present at the Jap surrender. Oh yes, and then we have a twat like you who is nothing more than a walt, a fucking wanabe hero whose only acquaintance with a uniform is the one that locks you up every sauirday night for drunken fighting. You filthy liar
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach How many medals did he get for the falklands ? 1 campain medal .What battles did phil the greek fight in? big deal he was at the jap surrender on the missouri that proves nothing, was he in jungle mud with the jocks?? thaught not ya scummy english bastard!!!!! the only liars are youre plastic warrior royals, stuck in the rear with the gear.PSlearn to spell dickhead!!.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace Oh yes, and you have the MC I suppose? Or is it the DFC maybe?? You lying piece of FRISP shit! Walts like you are a joke....you never wore a uniform and you stand on the graves of those who have died serving, you disgusting window sucking mong!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach Sorry pal i dont have any of those medals just some tour medals and one for operation granby,didnt do it for the medals but ithink mine were better earned than youre poxy royals!! KNOBEND THAT YOU ARE!!!
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace There you go..now you didnt do it for the medals, so what did you do it for? Why did you swear an oath of allegiance to HM the Queen Her Heirs and successors??? Did you fuck you walt!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach The Scottish nationalists ain't nazis you idiot,unlike some former members of the royal family.
scotland638 7 months ago
@scotland638 The clue sherlock, is in the fucking name, like the BNP, Sinn Fein and Plyd Cymru, they are nationalists, therefore nazis you fuckwit. Cor give us strength
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach Are you realy that stupid ? The SNP ... Scotland's pro-independence moderate left-of-centre party,doesn't sound like nazis ya fcking idiot does it ? before you continue to make a complete cunt of yourself you should make sure you know what the fck you are talking about.
scotland638 7 months ago
@scotland638 Courtney, the clue is in the name "NATIONAL" party. Exactly the same as BNP, Sinn Fein and Ply Cymru. Fascists! Now bugger off you pathetic FRISP!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach You really are that stupid,the name "NATIONAL" in the SNP's name does not mean they are fascists,they are nothing like the BNP,before you start throwing accusations around try looking at what the party stands for.You're typical of the idiots on YT now.
scotland638 7 months ago
@scotland638 Oh for fucks sake, what is the whole reason for life of the SNP?? Scottish nationalism...therefore nazis, therefore Scotland for the Scots. Ein Reich, Ein Volk Ein Fuhrer!"
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach What is the whole reason for the SNP ? independence ya idiot.Scotland welcomes all nationalities and religions,even dumb Englishmen like yourself,unfortunately.
scotland638 7 months ago
@scotland638 I care not about what Scotland does, I just dont expect our money from England to be used to fund it! You want to go it alone, you fucking well pay for it, and then it will not be long ebfore there is another Acts of Union like 1707. Most jocks who want the SNP are council house scum who for some inexplicable reason think they will become rich.
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach Ha ha usual shite Engaylish propaganda,believe me if England subsidised us you cunts would have cut us loose long ago,we more than pay our way,hence the reason i want away from the bloody english dragging us down.And you can keep our oil,it's a small price to be rid of you.
Boris Johnson wants our water lol he can go fuck himself,let england solve it's own drought problem without us.
scotland638 7 months ago
This video is retarded! There are so many problems with it, i dont know what to comment on first? The majorty of comments on this video are just as retarded and the people commenting on them really need to leanr there history and politics before making a ignorant comment or attempting to spread hate across the UK.
david21085 8 months ago
Scottish Independence is inevitable !
' Aye for INDEPENDENCE '
glasgow1234 8 months ago
what will rangers fans do if scotland becomes independent?
Liam2621 8 months ago
@Liam2621
The majority of Rangers fans are Scottish and i only hope they support Scottish Independence. The SNP gained seats in the central belt of Scotland which has the majority of Rangers fans.
Also, what most people are beginning to realise is that Scottish independence means the end of the political union and NOT the end of the Royal Union.
We will still have Queen Elizabeth as head of state.
The bigots can still shout " God Save The Queen " at their football games.
glasgow1234 8 months ago
i am not the english or scottish, but i think both these two countries would be foolish to throw away what you already have. you achieved more together then you ever would apart. the uk is one of the few suceess stories of history , european union has failed
dmax631 8 months ago
come on Scotland! Time for small nations independence is coming, next us the Basques, our party's been legaliced today, our finest hour is coming!!
tripitrapu 8 months ago
look at irelands failing economy as an example, its a new world world we live in now, scotland will not last long and as geetarwanabe said, you will just become a bitch of the eu whats even worse!,scotlands still scotland it always will be, but its better off being a partner with england.
topmarkms 8 months ago
@topmarkms well you could also use norway as an example and they have a much higher living standard than brits
FightTh3P0wer 8 months ago
I wonder how many of you inbreds have an image of william wallace shouting "FREEDOME", this guy is going to ruin our economy, we will go on the euro and be germanies bitch as a "new" country into the EU rather than apart of the UK.
We need england, wither you want to admit it or not.
geetarwanabe 8 months ago
@geetarwanabe i dont i just want england out of scotlands say on powers and money
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BlackRoof 9 months ago
Alex Salmond, you are the finest politician of our times.
Stay true to your word and do Scotland justice, make us proud.
May 6th will truly be a monumental day for Scotland.
Independence may not be immediate, but it will happen, such is the will of the Scottish people since time immemorial.
If Scotland does not get her independence, do not point the finger at England, but point it at Westminster. Far too long have they gone about their cloaks and daggers business.
For a free and just Scotland!
Zaijino 9 months ago 3
@Zaijino Inspirational words.
killerdeen13 9 months ago
SCOTLANDDDDDD! proud to be Scottish! wouldnt change that for the world
beverage2008 9 months ago
Gaun yerself alex!!!!!!!
Upeter2 9 months ago
Last few years SNP have done a good job, I will vote for the party that's best for where I live.
Hope you win by majority & remember do what you said, you will get the next one as well.
kingkeong1 9 months ago
God Bless Alex Salmond
TheScottishChristian 10 months ago
Scotland reminds me of a young teenager constantly threatening his parents he will leave home but never actually having the balls to do it.
magrev69 10 months ago
So who does the SNP consider Scottish and not Scottish? Are Muslims currently residing in Scotland to be counted as Scots?
thelastamericandude 10 months ago
Dr Finlay claims: "Gibb believed Scotland had done more than its fair share of founding the British Empire, but he also thought the English were benefiting more than the Scots.
"He saw communism as more of a menace than Nazi Germany.
"Those who felt working with the Nazis would secure home rule were not stooges - they wanted independence in Scotland. The Germans had fairly wide knowledge of the independence movements because they had infiltrated them.
xingichaun007 10 months ago
A FOUNDING father of the SNP plotted with the Nazis in the hope they could help Scotland gain independence.
Andrew Dewar Gibb QC, who was one of the country's top lawyers, met messengers from Hitler's regime keen to ally themselves with Scotland, a new book claims.
Dewar Gibb, who was a known admirer of right-wing leaders such as the Italian fascist dictator Mussolini, became chairman of the newly- formed Scottish National Party in 1936 and held the post until 1940
xingichaun007 10 months ago
@xingichaun007 Edward the 7th the future king was a known hitler fan,and nazi sympaphisor .One of the reasons he had to abdicate.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace Soppy twat. He wasnt allowed to be King because as head of the Church, he was marrying a none Commonwealth adulteress! Funny how you pathetic cretins like to chnage history to fit with your warped mindset!
MrMickroach 7 months ago
@MrMickroach Say what you like ya english prick!! you cant change the fact that he was a hitler and nazi fan !!! watch the discovery channell if you dont beleive me.
1966thewallace 7 months ago
@1966thewallace The fact that he was in league with Hitler is not a secret, nor is it a secret that Ireland jumped into bed with Hitler as did the Scottish nationlists in 1938, the most rampant being interned for the duration, the filthy treasonous cunts.
MrMickroach 7 months ago
I have a few things to ask
(1) WHAT CONSTITUTES A WINNNING MAJORITY-IS IT 50 % PLUS 1 PERSON
OR A CERTAIN HIGHER LEVEL (2/3)? HOW WILL QUESTION BE WORDED- FULL INDEPENCE-SOVERNIGTY- ASSOCIATION, COMMMON MONARCH?
(2) DO PARTS OF SCOTLAND HAVE THE RIGHT TO REMAIN IN THE UNION? EXAMPLE FROM U.S. HISTORY -VIRGINIA VOTES TO LEAVE UNION BUT WESTERN COUNTY REFUSE SECEESION- HENCE THE CREATION OF WEST VIRGINIA
(3) IN 1933 REFEREDUM IN AUSTRIALA-WESTERN AUSTRILLIA VOTES TO SECEDE- VOTE WAS NULLIFIED
xingichaun007 10 months ago
@segeno1--You act if you had already won the referendum. Most Scots like myself want a degree of autonomy but not full independence. Besides, Scotland would have to be part of EU-Hence Brussels would still call the shots.
Lets keep this debate professional-when you start name calling and using obscene language -it shows the weakness in your arguments
xingichaun007 11 months ago
@ segeno1. The Shetlands were once an independent nation until the 12 century. Shall you allow the people of the Shetlands to hold a vote to regain their nationhood?
What about Ulster Scots in Northern Ireland? They need the support of the United Kingdom.
Your rude, unprofessional comments "stinky smelly unionist" show a lack of maturity in your debate and reasoning.
United we stand- divided we fail. More autonomy / self government . Yes!
Independence -NO
More autonomy and self
xingichaun007 11 months ago
@xingichaun007 Wrong, the Shetlands was always part of Scotland from the beginning, the Scottish Picts were the original inhabitants of the land until it was invaded and taken over by Vikings, hence why for a while it become a Norweigian territory, until Scotland gained it back in the 14th century.
Only cancerous unionist disease ridden disastrous unionists would say other wise as it suits and helps their political views on union.
segano1 11 months ago
@xingichaun007 Keep trying to bring up new pathetic excuses as to why Scotland should not govern itself, it's pathetic as fuck, the union with these southern foreigners down south is a cancerous disease ridden disaster, there is no denying that fact now.
More Autonomy will suffice for Scotland for now, but independence is a question of 'When' not ' 'if', and nothing will change that.As for Shetland wanting independence? they can have it if they want, but none would, as they know who they are.
segano1 11 months ago
if snp recieved a Huge amount of money from wherever then it could be debated but 1947? what are we talking about here 300 million pounds or 2,000 pounds from an unknown source at the time? snp is loyal to scotland not england and that maks a problem for downing st.
troddsy 1 year ago
so what if their really is some record of "funds recieved" from Any extremist organization Anywhere its plain as bnp being wholly racist that SNP is the polar Opposite of Hatred its about breaking away from a country that is holding another country back! always a weak english argument somewhere in these posts!
troddsy 1 year ago
Britain out of Ireland, Independence for Scotland and Wales!!
DHSEASON4 1 year ago
its all yer falt yer english bastards ye
magrev69 1 year ago
UNITED KINGDOM-STAY UNITED. A 100 years ago this debate would never happen. Scots beware of separatism..yes more autonomy etc.etc. but no outright separation
xingichaun007 1 year ago
@xingichaun007 The union is a cancer to Scotland, and why do you stinking scummy outdated unionists keep calling nationalists as "Separatists"?
Scotland is a nation and was a nation long long before this unelected rancid union was created.
It's not separatism, it's rightful independence for Scots to create their own future and decisions.
We have more right to call you unionists as "annexers" more than you can call us nationalists as "separatists".
segano1 11 months ago
@segano1 Scotland is a nation and was a nation long long before this unelected rancid union was created
Ironic since it was created by a "stinking scummy outdated unionist Scot.
millard27 11 months ago
@millard27 Indeed it was, and it was a nation state long before Engayland was too.
Engayland wanted this union more than the Scots did, so that it gave them security for their northern borders.
segano1 11 months ago
@segano1
Haha more SNP bullshit. Calling it Engayland shows your level of intelligence. Pathetic really.
millard27 11 months ago
that is true over the founder of the SNP and the money given by the NAZI party.
also how can Alex Salmond be buckie born and bread which is what he said to get elected in the first place and also the last election from Linlithgow. both claims he has made.
as well his constituents pay the second highest council tax in the uk and Aberdeenshire have a large majority snp council in Scotland how does he hide these facts from people
i know how put snp on a sheep and the Rtards will vote for it
thuggie1 1 year ago
i find it odd how they try to hide their parties past in helping German POW's to escape and the founder of the SNP received moneys off the NAZI party the same as the Irish in the 1930's.
and to top it off the founder was anti Jewish as well, which is odd that a person of Jewish ancestry is now the leader of the SNP
GwLDS 1 year ago
@GwLDS Where the hell did you read that the SNP received money from Nazis? You must be having a laugh.
peacefrog1916 1 year ago
@peacefrog1916 why would i be having a laugh, it is all out there just type in a google founder of the snp and the nazis there's about 24000 pages take your pick. there are some a bit egsadurated but its true.
also type in Neil MacCormick and the nazis
i can not be bothered arguing its not worth my time
GwLDS 1 year ago
I was listening to the radio this morning about a Scottish member of parliament contemplating departure from the Union with the UK, as their budget deficit would be like 3 billion GBP as opposed to the other. Scotland is like northern Ireland now wanting to leave the UK....?
Highwaycrazy 1 year ago
snp are a joke, they didnt even vote in the european parliment when the EU are trying to grab a massive chunk of scotlands natural gas supplies
1RollDeep 1 year ago
its all yer falt yer english bastards ye
magrev69 1 year ago
@magrev69 LOL
EagleDeal 1 year ago
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There is absolutely no difference between the people who live in different sides of Great Britain. It is perfectly possible to live happily together as a single, prosperous, country.
Phoenixchaser1 1 year ago
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Phoenixchaser1 1 year ago
the call of freedon grows louder and louder
stanleymaiden 1 year ago
Independence for Scotland!
TheNicholas0202 1 year ago 18
@TheNicholas0202
To achieve Independence, you'd have to get out of Europe (won't happen), break away from Brussels (won't happen) and get Arabs to sell you back your land (again won't happen). Then you'll complain about the SNP's soft-touch jail system, no justice rights, immigration, etc. Good luck with that. :L
AesWolf 10 months ago
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MegaLolburger 1 year ago
The SNP lost me when they started taking money from people like the religious extremist and union-hater Brian Souter.
There is a very nasty reactionary under-current in the SNP.
Just wait for some of the responses to this post, you'll see exactly what I mean......
asubjectiveopinion 1 year ago
ye have support from ireland
XxXIRISHSNIPER 1 year ago
Hey runrome, all those handouts from westminster and you still can't spell!! As for 1scot4scotland, England's problem IS Scotland. We support you with subsidies from London and you still bloody complain!! You wouldn't survive on your own, maybe Libia could help.... they like you now! Did you enjoy seeing the St Andrew's cross flying in Tripoli??
garth04 1 year ago
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@garth04 Scotland has a net input into the Treasury. Scotland has 62.4% of the EU's oil reserves, 12% gas; 69% of the UK's coal reserves; and around 25% of Europe's wave, tidal, and wind renewable energies. Scotland's called the Saudi Arabia of Europe for good reason.
As for spelling... (if we're writing in English) where exactly is Libia? You possibly meant Libya, rather than labia? I realise, you being English, knowledge of foreign countries might not be your strong point.
scotchprofessor 1 year ago
SNP trailing Labour by 15 points in the polls (ouch). 9 months still to go - everything to play for though.
Rascasseman 1 year ago
im english & i know a lot of people who would love to vote for the snp if we were allowed, im all for a total break up of the u.k. england for the English, scotland for the scottish etc, cant wait!
danielthomasslade 1 year ago
@danielthomasslade Agreed. I say bring it on too. That's not to say I harbour any ill feeling towards England. On the contrary it's a great country and I love visiting. However as I'm sure you'll appreciate this "union" does not work for anyone except the politicians. "Le