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Hi everyone who's reading this, I might not know a lot about wars, but I know that nobody likes death nor hate and I don't understand how people throwing daggers at each other because of what now is the past will change the fact that those deaths can't be changed. Why do you have to lose your time, hating and insulting others because of their nationalities? You should stop cursing the past and start working for a better present and future. Vive la France! Vive le monde! ~Brazil
@BinhaAbbondati Do a little more reading of history. War in Europe is a way of life going back a thousand years. This song celebrates that bloody past and glorifies death, conquest and hate. I will stop cursing it when they stop singing it.
@pine829 Well, you know, being angry and hating something that can't and won't be changed is the same thing as drinking poison and expect the others to fall isn't it?
@BinhaAbbondati Your assumption is that it cannot be changed. I do not share this view. Rather, I believe in pointing out problems when I see them. I do not expect or want others to fall, I am hoping that perhaps a minority...even a single individual, might reflect and then change.
I do not hate it, I am repulsed by it.
The world, especially Europe and the US, believes in the glory of war. This is both sad and dangerous
@pine829 Well, I think it's just hard for it to change... But if you believe it can, I hope you don't get disappointed. I know, it's so horrible that people think that killing others for such stupid reasons as power, revenge, territory or even money is something nice... Just for curiosity (don't worry I'm not going to criticize you for your nationality, I hate when people do that), but where are you from?
France is one of the small number of nations that include the US, Briton, Austria, Germany, Russia, China and Japan that has caused most of the bloodshed in the last centuries. It is a nation of impenitent spite and perpetual war. This anthem is testimony to their past blood-lust. Today, that blood-lust is tempered by their military and economic weakness, but under that veneer of civility is a desire to be another Rome.
@pine829 :-) Well, one of the things France should not be proud of is the fact that they bankrupted themselves fighting for your right to continue slavery and carry out the genocide of the Native Americans (aka "the War of Independence") because even after 8 years, with all equipment and men shipped 3000 miles in wooden boats you couldn't beat the Brits. And you defaulted on your debt to them. Oh and... btw... you never declared war on Nazi Germany, perhaps because you'd financed it's set-up..
Other than that, in terms of lifestyle, democracy, intelligence, contribution to world culture, care of it's people, and, oh, superiority in just about anything else you can name except obesity and gun deaths, France is so far superior to you you probably couldn't even begin to comprehend. Go and chomp on a burger; you'll feel better.
@Goldengirl19601 The lifestyle of the average Frenchman is not so different from that of the average American. The average Frenchman has no more basic "culture" than the average American.
Superiority is a relative thing.
I do agree with you about the trend of obesity, but in the considerable time I have spent in America, Europe and Asia, I must tell you that I don't see much of a difference. The whole world is getting fat.
@pine829 Setence one: yes it is. Sentence two: yes they do. And in France I have only seen one obese French person. People here walk, or cycle, for one thing, which might be why the average European uses half the world resources which the average American does. I have heard the Brits and French call each other "best enemies" - meaning that it's OK for us to kick the hell out of each other, but we wade in with all guns blazing when someone else does. I hope you're getting my drift.
@Goldengirl19601 You are way overplaying what you think your hand is. I've been there many times on business. I was in Paris and Grenoble again last month. I interact with them on a weekly basis, I know them socially and have been to their homes. People all over the world are not that different. If you spend all your time in a major city you get a character not so different from that of New York, Boston or San Francisco. "Culture" is a bigger part of their lives.
@pine829 Talking of what you think your hand is - you've been to a couple of business meetings in bland hotel chains in a couple of cities and had apero before dinner and talked on the phone once per week. Try - as I do - living in a country for many years and having duel citizenship before you comment. And you are using the word "culture" with all the snobbery which is usual to Americans who are excited because they once visited the Louvre. In France, it is simply part of life.
@Goldengirl19601 With all respect, unless one of the citizenships you hold is from the United States it would seem that you are guilty of the same charge you are leveling. The fact is that you have a cartoon view of the US. As 2 of my business partners are Brits, I know how cartoonish this can be for Europeans. Your whole earlier mocking tirade about orange suited fat guys what typical of this. Be honest, have you ever been here....other than Disney Land, NY or LA?
@Goldengirl19601 Does having the Louvre in France have some sort of osmotic effect bestowing culture on all of France? Do you believe that the France possess some DNA that produces "culture". This is nothing but snobbery
When I travel in France, I see the same things I see in the rest of Europe, in the US, and in China. People are more the same than different.
In France I do detect a vague haughtiness among some that is virtually absent in other countries.
@pine829 By the way, just out of interest: why do Americans view the French National anthem and pass offensive comments about the French? Don't you have better things to do? (Like organising a fair, just and caring welfare state, for example...?)
@Goldengirl19601 Better check your eyeglass prescription. The present obesity rates for France are as follows: 39% of men and 26% of women are overweight. 11% are obese. The number has doubled in the last decade. The far north is the fattest at just over 50%. Childhood levels (<12) are virtually identical to the US.
The problem with Europe is that it loves war. A thousand years of it is proof.
@Goldengirl19601 The gun deaths in America come from the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. The purpose of this Amendment is to prevent the creation of a federal dictatorship. So far, it has worked.
Gun deaths is a trade I willingly make for the preservation of my Rights and liberty. The fact is that virtually all of the gun deaths in the US are caused by the drug trade. If we legalized both consumption and production, these deaths would drop to near zero almost overnight
@pine829 Oh do look around you! the only purpose of owning a gun is to have the potential to kill. Sane people don't do that, hence the Occupy movement have not done so. You HAVE a dictatorship! You are as brainwashed as any Korean. You have even been convinced that it is a sign of freedom to do without a health service! I have met many Americans, and never known people whose government shits on them so profusely, but who are so ludicrously patriotic and impressed by authority.
@Goldengirl19601 You make a number of errors. You are correct, the only purpose of having a gun is to kill. The 2nd Amendment of our Constitution holds this right specifically to give people the ability to overthrow a dictator. This has some problems that you are aware of.
No, we have a Republic
You watch too much TV news, virtually no one goes without health care in the US. Anyone can show up at virtually any hospital and get care. The issue here is the payer
Most of the hospitals in the US are "non-profit" corporations. Many started long ago by religious institutions. Part of their charter is to provide this care to anyone who walks in the door, which they do. These people get free care. Since the hospitals get no revenue from this, these costs are then shifted to people who can pay...mostly through insurance companies. This then drives up healthcare costs for anyone who isn't getting it for "free".
The issue has nothing to do with getting care, US healthcare is the best and most freely available care in the world for anyone who is here. BTW it is also free even if you are not a citizen. The issue is the cost of insurance.
Our government is attempting to get involved as a payer for the folks getting it for free now.l The problem is that they are willing to only pay a small fraction of the actual costs so the system of cost shifting still exists.
I am very familiar with the European health system and it problems. Where I live there is a hospital that specializes in heart care. There is an entire wing of this hospital that deals with nothing but well heeled European patients who have been turned down by their State systems (to old, bad risk etc) and who come here so they won't die.
The European healthcare model has serious flaws. We do not want to recreate that here.
You talk about Occupy. Is your mental model that Americans walk around with six guns strapped on their hip?...such that these protesters not having guns is noteworthy?
The Founders of this country wanted a very small and limited central government. The more it has evolved to look like the European imperial nanny-state, the worse it has gotten...more taxes, less freedom, less safety, less morality, less fun
@pine829 Please, Mr Brainwashed Yank, read what you have written, and then translate it into normal speech patterns. You have no universal healthcare provision. You consider that a price tag can be put on human life. Do you not realise how repellent that is? Europeans are not "turned down" (although Americans are, by their insurers); frequently "well heeled" Europeans choose private care so as not to burden the state, because they have consiences, and combine a cheap holiday with treatment.
No we do not have a government "universal care" program. However, we do have universal care. No one who wants care in the US is denied care. That care is more freely available than that available in Europe. I know what the European system delivers. Our wait times are days, yours are weeks. Look at the data. In fact the European system uses a cost/benefit analysis to determine care. You are probably just not old enough to appreciate the limitations...you will eventually.
No, many of the people seeking heart health care in the US do not have that treatment available to them there. They come here because they can buy it here. They cannot buy it at home. I know this irritates your ideal of a socialist utopia, but the whole system both there and here is about the money. The "well-heeled" Europeans come here to get what their politics WILL NOT deliver because they can. Those who cannot afford to do this die in Europe.
@pine829 :-) Your government tell you that - as i said, you are brainwashed. Do you know the Russians in the 70s were told that people came from all over the world to enjoy the benefits of the marvellous soviet healthcare system? All oppressive governments lie. And please, please don't talk about Socialism. You don't know what it is. You are told it is a bad thing and therefore to call someone a "socialist" makes them into an object of fear, a cultural enemy.
@Goldengirl19601 No. I am very familiar with the systems. I am not debating what any government says about their systems. I am talking about what they actually deliver.
I already live in a socialist governed nation, so I do know what it is like to live in one. Every socialist nation on the face of the planet is presently going broke (or into a slow death slide of debt) attempting to deliver benefits it cannot sustain. France is just further down the path than the US
@pine829 Socialism is piling up debt for your children, taking on debt from institutions and nations who will eventually own you, your land and your politicians, sacrificing your long term freedoms for "right now" comfort.
You are being over-run with immigrants who do not share your culture or your history and your low reproductive rate will make your children a minority in their own country in two generations.
Socialism is destroying France and the rest of Europe.
@pine829 I have grown up children, I am old enough to have grandchildren, and have known my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents all treated by the NHS in the UK. Without restrictions. Six generations. None of us have ever had to count the cost of illness. some things are beyond price. You don't know anything about EU healthcare; you know what your government tell you. You are the ONLY developed country which does not provide care. Why do you think that is?
@Goldengirl19601 I know that the UK health system is vastly behind the present state of the art. I know that many procedures and treatments are simply unavailable if you are outside of the "target" demographic. I know this because I know about the "refuges" from your system. This is not altruism on their part, it is survival.
@pine829 The reason this is so is that historically Americans have been suspicious of big government anything. Sadly, this is no longer the case. We are in the process of installing a European style socialism and are culturally developing a taste for the addictive but toxic milk that a State teat delivers
We have already acquired a European style taste for imperialism
I expect that the US will follow the Europeans down the drain economically, socially, culturally and morally
Americans don't walk around with guns. Your TV lies.
My government and your government puts a price on human life every day. This is how they make their decisions. This is why you have waiting lists and I don't. This is why the US performs heart bypass operations at a rate 5 times higher per capita than the UK.. Cost is always king.
@pine829 Please, Mr Brainwashed Yank, read what you have written, and then translate it into normal speech patterns. You have no universal healthcare provision. You consider that a price tag can be put on human life. Do you not realise how repellent that is? Europeans are not "turned down" (although Americans are, by their insurers); frequently "well heeled" Europeans choose private care so as not to burden the state, because they have consiences, and combine a cheap holiday with treatment.
As for you having the best healthcare in the world, you should check your facts (but won't, because you are afraid to criticise America). 50% of all money is spent on the richest 5% of the population, and you have higher infant mortality, shorter lifespan, poorer prognosis in case of illness, than in Europe or Canada. 47 million US citizens have no healthcare provision whatsoever. You are the ONLY developed country not to provide this. And yet you still think people want to emulate you.
In other words, any waste of space who happened to fall out of a whore who shagged a rich old bastard is actually considered more valuable than the children of a poor family. Absolutely disgusting! oh, and by the way, although the kids of the rich your side of the pond have had so much ridiculous cosmetic work done that they look as if they are trying to swallow a piano keyboard, 30% of Americans over the age of 45 have none of their own teeth left.
@pine829 I don't watch very much TV at all, and strangely enough, usually there are topics other than America. I do however know a lot of Americans (400,000 of them escaped here) and, backed by facts which you can easily trace (mine come from the CIA, actually) get my information from them. Having said that, since they are civilised people who dislike the American ethic which says life is good if you have money, a Bible and the right to bear arms, they may be biased.
I must say though, having worked in a major tourist installation in the UK, I did get very tired of the sound of American women. (The men normally walked behind carrying everything and looking beaten.) If there is ever an American woman within half a mile, it's possible to hear her yowling like someone treading on a cat's tail as she bellows about what she has bought. A recent trip on Eurostar was almost ruined by four of them until a Frenchman told them to "stop that horrible noise."
Ha ha ha. This is a regional thing. It's not universal. The US east coast is by far the worst. Nothing is louder and more irritating than either a bunch of New Jersey socialite women or New York Jews. It sounds exactly as you describe. Sorry about that.
Although it is funny for me to watch European tourist here.One of the funniest was watching a French family complain to each other about the food at Disney World.
As the French say about American food "good color"
@Goldengirl19601 Good answer. Your retelling of history is a bit flawed, but still has some truth to it. Germany declared war on the US because it had an agreement with Japan requiring it to do so. Thus when the US declared war on Japan we essentially knew that we would also be in a war with Germany.
You are correct about American funding of Nazi's.
The fact is that the US entered WW2, not because of a defensive need, but rather to build its empire.
One of the present problems with the US is that it has devolved from the rather isolationist views of its Founders and has become the largest Imperialistic state ever to exist.
As an American, I am sickened at our own blood-lust and the cavalier way in which we, as a nation, meddle in the affairs of other nations and people.
We count millions of dead on the path of our empire. I frankly wish that France would have the courage to object, but your own politicians are of like mind.
@Goldengirl19601 What?! Not 2 weeks ago Alain Juppe France's foreign minister was forcefully calling for harsher sanctions, both an oil embargo and an asset freeze, on Iran? Do you think that the US, the Brits the other Europeans, the Russians and the Chinese didn't see the speech. For God's sake, it was all over our news. Where do you think sanctions are leading, a tea party? An embargo is economic war...usually a precursor to a shooting war.
Do you not see that the war with Iran has already started?
Take a look at how many people, particularly children, died as a result of the embargo on Iraq. French complicity in this resulted in the death of 500,000 children. Do you think that the blood is washed from your hands just because it wasn't on a gun?
The French nation needs to decide if it is going to enable the destruction of yet another country and whether it is going to sacrifice more French blood for rich old men.
@pine829 Not flawed - fact. Britain and France - knew their necks were on the line, France had lost half of all able bodied men and the land was still decimated. To declare war on Nazi Germany with only the weapons they had used in WW1 because, while America had funded the Nazis, France had had no reparations, and to fight a savage neighbour with a long shared land border, for nearly a year, was suicidally courageous. But then, the French ARE courageous. You should learn about them.
@Goldengirl19601 It is more complex than your explanation. The Treaty of Versailles was the single biggest cause of WW2. The crushing provisions thereof created the soil in which Nazism grew. France was part of creating this problem.
France has had its own history of savagery. In fact, Thomas Jefferson was right when he said that Europe was populated by nations of impenitent spite and perpetual war.
You guys have been at each others throat since the beginning of time
@pine829 Bollocks to the Treaty of Versailles. Wouldn't you want reparations and revenge if for no reason your neighbour devastated your land, cities, industries, and population? And bugger the soil in which Naziism flourished. Look closer to home; it would have been poor soil indeed without funding from American banks and such heroes of capitalism as Henry Ford.
@pine829 because you don't want to rock the boat? Not brave! It was the Nazi soil which was enriched by Ford and the US banks. And as a European, while those thousands of young Americans are a tragedy, the greater tragedy was that America effectively sat back for almost two and a half years, watching the rape and murder of my continent, then walked in half way through to claim all credit, sneer at France, give Britain the coup de grace, suppress "unAmerican" politics, and pick over the bones.
France should investigate its own "dirty and bloody history instead of other nations!! hey listen scum bag sarkooz what i"m saying Armanian genocide big fucking lie come and arrest me.
France should investigate its own "dirty and bloody history instead of other nations France was responsible for the deaths of 45,000 people in Algeria in 1945 and for the massacre of up to 800,000 people in Rwanda in 1994.PLEASE CHECK WIKIPEDIA
France should investigate its own "dirty and bloody history instead of other nations France was responsible for the deaths of 45,000 people in Algeria in 1945 and for the massacre of up to 800,000 people in Rwanda in 1994.PLEASE CHECK WIKIPEDIA
@Cronos77267 Oh, the obligatory obese American idiot who knows nothing about anything except putting on an orange vest and waddling into the woods to shoot small animals. You tube is full of them; I am sure the mentally ill in America spend their time online in place of the meds they can't afford, as the USA doesn't have healthcare yet. Go away and read a book, lard-arse. And don't bother replying; because I won't. You can just sit and froth your stupidity for hours on your own.
@Goldengirl Oh, the obligatory self-important European or European wannabe with more arrogance than intellect who knows nothing about the world except what they see from the comfort of the State teat on which they suckle. Paris is full of them: tight panted, cigarette smoking, nose raising, rude little twerps. Golden, Germany was beaten when they decided to invade Russia. Had the US not entered the war, Paris would speak Russian. 300,000 of my people died for your croissant.
@pine829 Unfortunately, they didn't start doing so until Britain (where I come from) had led the fort for 2 years after France (where I live) had been defeated after nearly a year fighting a ferocious neighbour (having lost 3000 men per day, for four years, in the previous war which was fought on their land.) You don't know what courage is - you can't even get your own government in order. Piss off and grow a brain cell.
@Goldengirl19601 My, we do have a potty mouth don't we. I hope you are a little more refined face to face.
I do know what courage is. I have seen it personally.
Frankly, what I hope for is that my government develops both the morals and the courage to stay out of other countries/wars/conflicts, and let you Europeans go back to killing each other as you have for a thousand years. If I get my way, you best brush up on your Russian.
@pine829 Tell me, are you writing from 1986? The Russians aren't going anywhere - except on luxury yachts, as I can see from my window. And if you want to consider a comparison between the American mindset and the defunct Soviet one, please explain the difference between "believing the state has the right to tax you but only to provide fat cops to shoot you and you are scum if you are poor" and "believing the state has the right to make you work on absurd five-year plans." All brainwashing..
@Goldengirl19601 "...how every nation should be..." What?...arrogant of presentation, weak of will, cowardly of deed, greedy of nature, convoluted of politics, lazy of character, unwashed of body, taxed to death, broke, with dogsh!t on every sidewalk.
Good food though. And the art ain't so bad neither.
@pine829 I take it you gained your knowledge of France from National Lampoon's European Vacation. How typical. But then, you do come from the vast lavatory in which Glenn Beck and Dr Phil are considered to be intellectuals.
After a thousand years of the Brits and French beating each other up we are now friends with our nearest neighbour. I wish the British national anthem was as stirring as France's La Marseillaise, if it was we may still be in the 2011 Rugby World Cup and would have won the football (soccer for you Americans out there) World Cup again.
Not only do some liberal idiots criticize the Marseillaise, but they complain about the US National Anthem and there is a large active group of liberals in the US who want to do away with the National Anthem of the US, because they say it is barbaric.
I love the Marseillaise, because it is the most upbeat anthem and I also love our own National Anthem. The Hungarian National Anthem is nice too, almost a prayer and for musical score, the Russian anthem is great.
Je vois des drapeaux suisses, Allemands, Aux USA dans le jardin des maisons de leurs pays respectifs, ils sont fiers de leur pays, on peu ne pas etre d'accord avec cet affichage de nationalisme mais c'est comme ça mais en France on en est toujours a se flageller avec cela comme si arbhorer le drapeau Francais c'était la honte et que seul l'extrème droite en avait le droit, nous les démocrates nous devons etre fiers de notre hymne, de notre drapeau et de notre pays VIVE LA FRANCE et vive l'EUROPE
That old black and white photo of "Gen. DeGaule's Free French Army" looked indeed to be of mostly Black, presumably Senegalese Soldiers. Let no one forget that the Black and Berber Soldier's are who fought for France against Fascism, many laying their lives down for the Republique!
I love FRANCE, its people and its language. The world owes a debt to the french that can never be repaid. There is no city like PARIS. GOD BLESS FRANCE!!!!!
I think it's good that they have "aux armes citoyen" seeing as the average French man is fond of deserting surrendering and collaborating when it comes to military matters
that song soundd wrong in my opinion, glory, killing, defense, and then glory for paris. it seems more a challenge to war in some areas and down right murder, whenit come to watering the furrows, i know its hypercritical but i do have few question about the wether the french could live up to it now, considering the past century
Aussi l'Amérique suce, suce-Bretagne, Germay suce, suce la Russie au Moyen-Orient aspire., jamais dernier d'entre eux a eu un empire prises loin d'eux, jusqu'à ce qu'une nation est capable de maintenir son empire que vous n'avez pas le droit d'être mise à d'autres nations que vous paysanne
C'est ma seule opinion. L'hymne français a été écrit à une époque de guerres, troubles civils et le général américain mayhem.The hymne a été writtin pendant une à part entière war.The civile de l'humeur et l'époque de chaque hymne est différente et reflète la vision de chaque écrivains de leur musique.
@TyberZane certes c ton opinion mais le coup des paroles violentes on nous l'a déjà fait, l'essentiel est de respecter ceux qui sont morts pour la liberté et la démocratie pour que n'importe quel citoyen dans ce pays puisse s'exprimer voila ce qui est important ,les paroles sont se quelles sont pas de raison de changer sinon pourquoi pas les adapter en disco ou r'n'b. Faudrais voir à etre sérieux maintenant que les Ricains viennent nous dire que c violent défense de rire: les USA sont violents.
The french helped us win the revolutionairy war but we would of won anyway by that time.. Just would of taken longer. : ) and france was a very current
@SaturnAndItsRings you can't understand this song because it depends on the context. your country is young contrary to France. read the story of this anthem and you'll understand the lyrics.
@SaturnAnditsRings America ist the most shitty Country in the world , dude . I In no other country, the criminality rate is greater than in America. And there more gays in America then in any other country get it!
The soldiers at the Arc De Triumphe are British or Commonwealth troops - it was their sacrifice that allows the French to bask in their reflected glory today. Britain lost her commonwealth to join the EU - never let us forget
I disagree. The French National anthem is bloody. It sounds like a Muslim fundamentalists terrorist exhorting the patriots to go out and kill everyone in the name of France! That's why I love the "Star Spangled Banner". It watches our flag and hopes through the rockets and the bombs bursting (the troubles and trials of life) that our great nation can still survive it all. It asks each generation if it "yet waves O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?" Ours is the best!
@hairymelen so you didn't understand the meaning of the french anthems, it's all about defending our country against kings/fascist. not about killing those who don't think like us
@hairymelen This anthem was written during the French revolution when the whole Europe has declared the war against France in order to support our king. They did an invasion of our country. In the end, we beat them all Austrian, Prussian etc...and we cut the heard of our royal familly. it's the beginning of the French democracy.
btw, the US anthem is boring and I don't like the song.
@jackzero Ok go back to learn the history of your own country and then, come to speak with me about France...
The French revolutionnary wars (1792-1802) was a FRENCH VICTORY against the others EU countries, (Treaty of Lunéville and Treaty of Amiens)
You speak about Napoleon, the Napoleon wars began in 1803 until 1815, 14 years after the French revolution, France fought against many coalitions, in this time it's France who declared the wars in order to extend his territory in Europe,
Je suis américain, mais j'adore la France et tout autour d'elle! Je viens "Home" comme le disent certains en Amérique. Je vous aime, même si je ne vous le savez! VIVE LE FRANCE! allez Paris Saint-Germain!
@Hadrien06100 My best friend was born in Nice. She told me all about Mardi Gras and I was like.. "Momma, instead of New Orleans this year, can we go to the real deal". she was like "Sure". I am coming france!!!! Live long!
i prendre des cours en français, mais j'ai envie de parler en français est appropriot en ce moment et cet hymne est awesome.LONG LIVE LE FRANÇAIS ET AMERICAINS!
Les américains me font trop rire. " the lyrics are so violents" Mais bien sur que c'est violent, l'hymne n'a pas étée écrite par les bisounours. Peuple américains respecté notre hymne, une chanson plus vieille que votre pays. Merci.
@lenny89100m J'adore ton com !!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD "par des bisounours" !!!!! j'ai eu un gros beug , je me suis imaginer Rouget de lisle façon bisounours =p
@lenny89100m Les versets du l'hymne americaine sont plus violents que les versets de la Marseillaise, parce qu'il parle des bombes qui explodent dans le ciel, des fusees.
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glasgow1234 1 week ago
im proud to be french
Samueldorian90 1 week ago 2
Hi everyone who's reading this, I might not know a lot about wars, but I know that nobody likes death nor hate and I don't understand how people throwing daggers at each other because of what now is the past will change the fact that those deaths can't be changed. Why do you have to lose your time, hating and insulting others because of their nationalities? You should stop cursing the past and start working for a better present and future. Vive la France! Vive le monde! ~Brazil
BinhaAbbondati 2 weeks ago
@BinhaAbbondati Do a little more reading of history. War in Europe is a way of life going back a thousand years. This song celebrates that bloody past and glorifies death, conquest and hate. I will stop cursing it when they stop singing it.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Well, you know, being angry and hating something that can't and won't be changed is the same thing as drinking poison and expect the others to fall isn't it?
BinhaAbbondati 2 weeks ago
@BinhaAbbondati Your assumption is that it cannot be changed. I do not share this view. Rather, I believe in pointing out problems when I see them. I do not expect or want others to fall, I am hoping that perhaps a minority...even a single individual, might reflect and then change.
I do not hate it, I am repulsed by it.
The world, especially Europe and the US, believes in the glory of war. This is both sad and dangerous
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Well, I think it's just hard for it to change... But if you believe it can, I hope you don't get disappointed. I know, it's so horrible that people think that killing others for such stupid reasons as power, revenge, territory or even money is something nice... Just for curiosity (don't worry I'm not going to criticize you for your nationality, I hate when people do that), but where are you from?
BinhaAbbondati 2 weeks ago
Good song Frenchies! -American-
Bkilla24octopus 2 weeks ago
300,000 people died for your croissant no offense but haahaa
Kitsune1227 3 weeks ago
France is one of the small number of nations that include the US, Briton, Austria, Germany, Russia, China and Japan that has caused most of the bloodshed in the last centuries. It is a nation of impenitent spite and perpetual war. This anthem is testimony to their past blood-lust. Today, that blood-lust is tempered by their military and economic weakness, but under that veneer of civility is a desire to be another Rome.
pine829 3 weeks ago
@pine829 jealousy will get you nowhere....
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 France is a nation who's national pride has always been larger than its accomplishments and who's mouth works better than its fists.
Dump the bloodthirsty anthem and sing about something France can be proud of.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 :-) Well, one of the things France should not be proud of is the fact that they bankrupted themselves fighting for your right to continue slavery and carry out the genocide of the Native Americans (aka "the War of Independence") because even after 8 years, with all equipment and men shipped 3000 miles in wooden boats you couldn't beat the Brits. And you defaulted on your debt to them. Oh and... btw... you never declared war on Nazi Germany, perhaps because you'd financed it's set-up..
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
Other than that, in terms of lifestyle, democracy, intelligence, contribution to world culture, care of it's people, and, oh, superiority in just about anything else you can name except obesity and gun deaths, France is so far superior to you you probably couldn't even begin to comprehend. Go and chomp on a burger; you'll feel better.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 The lifestyle of the average Frenchman is not so different from that of the average American. The average Frenchman has no more basic "culture" than the average American.
Superiority is a relative thing.
I do agree with you about the trend of obesity, but in the considerable time I have spent in America, Europe and Asia, I must tell you that I don't see much of a difference. The whole world is getting fat.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Setence one: yes it is. Sentence two: yes they do. And in France I have only seen one obese French person. People here walk, or cycle, for one thing, which might be why the average European uses half the world resources which the average American does. I have heard the Brits and French call each other "best enemies" - meaning that it's OK for us to kick the hell out of each other, but we wade in with all guns blazing when someone else does. I hope you're getting my drift.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 You are way overplaying what you think your hand is. I've been there many times on business. I was in Paris and Grenoble again last month. I interact with them on a weekly basis, I know them socially and have been to their homes. People all over the world are not that different. If you spend all your time in a major city you get a character not so different from that of New York, Boston or San Francisco. "Culture" is a bigger part of their lives.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Talking of what you think your hand is - you've been to a couple of business meetings in bland hotel chains in a couple of cities and had apero before dinner and talked on the phone once per week. Try - as I do - living in a country for many years and having duel citizenship before you comment. And you are using the word "culture" with all the snobbery which is usual to Americans who are excited because they once visited the Louvre. In France, it is simply part of life.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 With all respect, unless one of the citizenships you hold is from the United States it would seem that you are guilty of the same charge you are leveling. The fact is that you have a cartoon view of the US. As 2 of my business partners are Brits, I know how cartoonish this can be for Europeans. Your whole earlier mocking tirade about orange suited fat guys what typical of this. Be honest, have you ever been here....other than Disney Land, NY or LA?
pine829 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 Does having the Louvre in France have some sort of osmotic effect bestowing culture on all of France? Do you believe that the France possess some DNA that produces "culture". This is nothing but snobbery
When I travel in France, I see the same things I see in the rest of Europe, in the US, and in China. People are more the same than different.
In France I do detect a vague haughtiness among some that is virtually absent in other countries.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 By the way, just out of interest: why do Americans view the French National anthem and pass offensive comments about the French? Don't you have better things to do? (Like organising a fair, just and caring welfare state, for example...?)
Goldengirl19601 1 week ago
@Goldengirl19601 Better check your eyeglass prescription. The present obesity rates for France are as follows: 39% of men and 26% of women are overweight. 11% are obese. The number has doubled in the last decade. The far north is the fattest at just over 50%. Childhood levels (<12) are virtually identical to the US.
The problem with Europe is that it loves war. A thousand years of it is proof.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 The gun deaths in America come from the 2nd Amendment to the Constitution. The purpose of this Amendment is to prevent the creation of a federal dictatorship. So far, it has worked.
Gun deaths is a trade I willingly make for the preservation of my Rights and liberty. The fact is that virtually all of the gun deaths in the US are caused by the drug trade. If we legalized both consumption and production, these deaths would drop to near zero almost overnight
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Oh do look around you! the only purpose of owning a gun is to have the potential to kill. Sane people don't do that, hence the Occupy movement have not done so. You HAVE a dictatorship! You are as brainwashed as any Korean. You have even been convinced that it is a sign of freedom to do without a health service! I have met many Americans, and never known people whose government shits on them so profusely, but who are so ludicrously patriotic and impressed by authority.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 You make a number of errors. You are correct, the only purpose of having a gun is to kill. The 2nd Amendment of our Constitution holds this right specifically to give people the ability to overthrow a dictator. This has some problems that you are aware of.
No, we have a Republic
You watch too much TV news, virtually no one goes without health care in the US. Anyone can show up at virtually any hospital and get care. The issue here is the payer
pine829 2 weeks ago
Most of the hospitals in the US are "non-profit" corporations. Many started long ago by religious institutions. Part of their charter is to provide this care to anyone who walks in the door, which they do. These people get free care. Since the hospitals get no revenue from this, these costs are then shifted to people who can pay...mostly through insurance companies. This then drives up healthcare costs for anyone who isn't getting it for "free".
pine829 2 weeks ago
The issue has nothing to do with getting care, US healthcare is the best and most freely available care in the world for anyone who is here. BTW it is also free even if you are not a citizen. The issue is the cost of insurance.
Our government is attempting to get involved as a payer for the folks getting it for free now.l The problem is that they are willing to only pay a small fraction of the actual costs so the system of cost shifting still exists.
pine829 2 weeks ago
I am very familiar with the European health system and it problems. Where I live there is a hospital that specializes in heart care. There is an entire wing of this hospital that deals with nothing but well heeled European patients who have been turned down by their State systems (to old, bad risk etc) and who come here so they won't die.
The European healthcare model has serious flaws. We do not want to recreate that here.
pine829 2 weeks ago
You talk about Occupy. Is your mental model that Americans walk around with six guns strapped on their hip?...such that these protesters not having guns is noteworthy?
The Founders of this country wanted a very small and limited central government. The more it has evolved to look like the European imperial nanny-state, the worse it has gotten...more taxes, less freedom, less safety, less morality, less fun
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Please, Mr Brainwashed Yank, read what you have written, and then translate it into normal speech patterns. You have no universal healthcare provision. You consider that a price tag can be put on human life. Do you not realise how repellent that is? Europeans are not "turned down" (although Americans are, by their insurers); frequently "well heeled" Europeans choose private care so as not to burden the state, because they have consiences, and combine a cheap holiday with treatment.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
No we do not have a government "universal care" program. However, we do have universal care. No one who wants care in the US is denied care. That care is more freely available than that available in Europe. I know what the European system delivers. Our wait times are days, yours are weeks. Look at the data. In fact the European system uses a cost/benefit analysis to determine care. You are probably just not old enough to appreciate the limitations...you will eventually.
pine829 2 weeks ago
No, many of the people seeking heart health care in the US do not have that treatment available to them there. They come here because they can buy it here. They cannot buy it at home. I know this irritates your ideal of a socialist utopia, but the whole system both there and here is about the money. The "well-heeled" Europeans come here to get what their politics WILL NOT deliver because they can. Those who cannot afford to do this die in Europe.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 :-) Your government tell you that - as i said, you are brainwashed. Do you know the Russians in the 70s were told that people came from all over the world to enjoy the benefits of the marvellous soviet healthcare system? All oppressive governments lie. And please, please don't talk about Socialism. You don't know what it is. You are told it is a bad thing and therefore to call someone a "socialist" makes them into an object of fear, a cultural enemy.
Goldengirl19601 1 week ago
@Goldengirl19601 No. I am very familiar with the systems. I am not debating what any government says about their systems. I am talking about what they actually deliver.
I already live in a socialist governed nation, so I do know what it is like to live in one. Every socialist nation on the face of the planet is presently going broke (or into a slow death slide of debt) attempting to deliver benefits it cannot sustain. France is just further down the path than the US
pine829 1 week ago
@pine829 Socialism is piling up debt for your children, taking on debt from institutions and nations who will eventually own you, your land and your politicians, sacrificing your long term freedoms for "right now" comfort.
You are being over-run with immigrants who do not share your culture or your history and your low reproductive rate will make your children a minority in their own country in two generations.
Socialism is destroying France and the rest of Europe.
pine829 1 week ago
@pine829 I have grown up children, I am old enough to have grandchildren, and have known my parents, grandparents, and great grandparents all treated by the NHS in the UK. Without restrictions. Six generations. None of us have ever had to count the cost of illness. some things are beyond price. You don't know anything about EU healthcare; you know what your government tell you. You are the ONLY developed country which does not provide care. Why do you think that is?
Goldengirl19601 1 week ago
@Goldengirl19601 I know that the UK health system is vastly behind the present state of the art. I know that many procedures and treatments are simply unavailable if you are outside of the "target" demographic. I know this because I know about the "refuges" from your system. This is not altruism on their part, it is survival.
pine829 1 week ago
@pine829 The reason this is so is that historically Americans have been suspicious of big government anything. Sadly, this is no longer the case. We are in the process of installing a European style socialism and are culturally developing a taste for the addictive but toxic milk that a State teat delivers
We have already acquired a European style taste for imperialism
I expect that the US will follow the Europeans down the drain economically, socially, culturally and morally
pine829 1 week ago
@Goldengirl19601 OK, I'll translate into something simpler:
Americans don't walk around with guns. Your TV lies.
My government and your government puts a price on human life every day. This is how they make their decisions. This is why you have waiting lists and I don't. This is why the US performs heart bypass operations at a rate 5 times higher per capita than the UK.. Cost is always king.
Socialism doesn't work - there or here.
pine829 1 week ago
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@pine829 Please, Mr Brainwashed Yank, read what you have written, and then translate it into normal speech patterns. You have no universal healthcare provision. You consider that a price tag can be put on human life. Do you not realise how repellent that is? Europeans are not "turned down" (although Americans are, by their insurers); frequently "well heeled" Europeans choose private care so as not to burden the state, because they have consiences, and combine a cheap holiday with treatment.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
As for you having the best healthcare in the world, you should check your facts (but won't, because you are afraid to criticise America). 50% of all money is spent on the richest 5% of the population, and you have higher infant mortality, shorter lifespan, poorer prognosis in case of illness, than in Europe or Canada. 47 million US citizens have no healthcare provision whatsoever. You are the ONLY developed country not to provide this. And yet you still think people want to emulate you.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
In other words, any waste of space who happened to fall out of a whore who shagged a rich old bastard is actually considered more valuable than the children of a poor family. Absolutely disgusting! oh, and by the way, although the kids of the rich your side of the pond have had so much ridiculous cosmetic work done that they look as if they are trying to swallow a piano keyboard, 30% of Americans over the age of 45 have none of their own teeth left.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@pine829 I don't watch very much TV at all, and strangely enough, usually there are topics other than America. I do however know a lot of Americans (400,000 of them escaped here) and, backed by facts which you can easily trace (mine come from the CIA, actually) get my information from them. Having said that, since they are civilised people who dislike the American ethic which says life is good if you have money, a Bible and the right to bear arms, they may be biased.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
I must say though, having worked in a major tourist installation in the UK, I did get very tired of the sound of American women. (The men normally walked behind carrying everything and looking beaten.) If there is ever an American woman within half a mile, it's possible to hear her yowling like someone treading on a cat's tail as she bellows about what she has bought. A recent trip on Eurostar was almost ruined by four of them until a Frenchman told them to "stop that horrible noise."
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
Ha ha ha. This is a regional thing. It's not universal. The US east coast is by far the worst. Nothing is louder and more irritating than either a bunch of New Jersey socialite women or New York Jews. It sounds exactly as you describe. Sorry about that.
Although it is funny for me to watch European tourist here.One of the funniest was watching a French family complain to each other about the food at Disney World.
As the French say about American food "good color"
pine829 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 Good answer. Your retelling of history is a bit flawed, but still has some truth to it. Germany declared war on the US because it had an agreement with Japan requiring it to do so. Thus when the US declared war on Japan we essentially knew that we would also be in a war with Germany.
You are correct about American funding of Nazi's.
The fact is that the US entered WW2, not because of a defensive need, but rather to build its empire.
pine829 2 weeks ago
One of the present problems with the US is that it has devolved from the rather isolationist views of its Founders and has become the largest Imperialistic state ever to exist.
As an American, I am sickened at our own blood-lust and the cavalier way in which we, as a nation, meddle in the affairs of other nations and people.
We count millions of dead on the path of our empire. I frankly wish that France would have the courage to object, but your own politicians are of like mind.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Clearly you haven't been listening....
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 What?! Not 2 weeks ago Alain Juppe France's foreign minister was forcefully calling for harsher sanctions, both an oil embargo and an asset freeze, on Iran? Do you think that the US, the Brits the other Europeans, the Russians and the Chinese didn't see the speech. For God's sake, it was all over our news. Where do you think sanctions are leading, a tea party? An embargo is economic war...usually a precursor to a shooting war.
Not listening. I wish
pine829 2 weeks ago
Do you not see that the war with Iran has already started?
Take a look at how many people, particularly children, died as a result of the embargo on Iraq. French complicity in this resulted in the death of 500,000 children. Do you think that the blood is washed from your hands just because it wasn't on a gun?
The French nation needs to decide if it is going to enable the destruction of yet another country and whether it is going to sacrifice more French blood for rich old men.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Not flawed - fact. Britain and France - knew their necks were on the line, France had lost half of all able bodied men and the land was still decimated. To declare war on Nazi Germany with only the weapons they had used in WW1 because, while America had funded the Nazis, France had had no reparations, and to fight a savage neighbour with a long shared land border, for nearly a year, was suicidally courageous. But then, the French ARE courageous. You should learn about them.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 It is more complex than your explanation. The Treaty of Versailles was the single biggest cause of WW2. The crushing provisions thereof created the soil in which Nazism grew. France was part of creating this problem.
France has had its own history of savagery. In fact, Thomas Jefferson was right when he said that Europe was populated by nations of impenitent spite and perpetual war.
You guys have been at each others throat since the beginning of time
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Bollocks to the Treaty of Versailles. Wouldn't you want reparations and revenge if for no reason your neighbour devastated your land, cities, industries, and population? And bugger the soil in which Naziism flourished. Look closer to home; it would have been poor soil indeed without funding from American banks and such heroes of capitalism as Henry Ford.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 Yes I would, but given what I know now about what happens when you do this kind of thing I would be smart and not do it.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 because you don't want to rock the boat? Not brave! It was the Nazi soil which was enriched by Ford and the US banks. And as a European, while those thousands of young Americans are a tragedy, the greater tragedy was that America effectively sat back for almost two and a half years, watching the rape and murder of my continent, then walked in half way through to claim all credit, sneer at France, give Britain the coup de grace, suppress "unAmerican" politics, and pick over the bones.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
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France should investigate its own "dirty and bloody history instead of other nations!! hey listen scum bag sarkooz what i"m saying Armanian genocide big fucking lie come and arrest me.
edcboatman 3 weeks ago
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usa and uk forever.....now lets go and nuke the frenchies
MrBillbonkers 1 month ago
I'm from Paris,France. But it's a bad thing I'm a Filipino-French.
Amandamae1231 1 month ago
@Amandamae1231 what's bad about that? just curious.
xefbaldoque 1 month ago
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France should investigate its own "dirty and bloody history instead of other nations France was responsible for the deaths of 45,000 people in Algeria in 1945 and for the massacre of up to 800,000 people in Rwanda in 1994.PLEASE CHECK WIKIPEDIA
edcboatman 1 month ago
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France should investigate its own "dirty and bloody history instead of other nations France was responsible for the deaths of 45,000 people in Algeria in 1945 and for the massacre of up to 800,000 people in Rwanda in 1994.PLEASE CHECK WIKIPEDIA
edcboatman 1 month ago
Every time I see this anthem translated, the lyrics make me sick!
moshehim 1 month ago
@moshehim ... and that trumpet is seriously annoying, too.
moshehim 1 month ago
Deutchland ubber allle, hang the traitor Sarkozy!
Slamdumb020 1 month ago
VIVE LA FRANCE! Greek greetings from the USA! ^_^
Evzone1821 1 month ago
VIVE LA FRANCE!
TheJuzMii 2 months ago 2
so proud to live in France - how every nation should be, but can't!
Goldengirl19601 2 months ago
@Goldengirl19601 yeah if every country gave up to germany in the ww's we would all speak german
Cronos77267 2 months ago
@Cronos77267 Oh, the obligatory obese American idiot who knows nothing about anything except putting on an orange vest and waddling into the woods to shoot small animals. You tube is full of them; I am sure the mentally ill in America spend their time online in place of the meds they can't afford, as the USA doesn't have healthcare yet. Go away and read a book, lard-arse. And don't bother replying; because I won't. You can just sit and froth your stupidity for hours on your own.
Goldengirl19601 2 months ago
@Goldengirl Oh, the obligatory self-important European or European wannabe with more arrogance than intellect who knows nothing about the world except what they see from the comfort of the State teat on which they suckle. Paris is full of them: tight panted, cigarette smoking, nose raising, rude little twerps. Golden, Germany was beaten when they decided to invade Russia. Had the US not entered the war, Paris would speak Russian. 300,000 of my people died for your croissant.
pine829 3 weeks ago
@pine829 Unfortunately, they didn't start doing so until Britain (where I come from) had led the fort for 2 years after France (where I live) had been defeated after nearly a year fighting a ferocious neighbour (having lost 3000 men per day, for four years, in the previous war which was fought on their land.) You don't know what courage is - you can't even get your own government in order. Piss off and grow a brain cell.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Goldengirl19601 My, we do have a potty mouth don't we. I hope you are a little more refined face to face.
I do know what courage is. I have seen it personally.
Frankly, what I hope for is that my government develops both the morals and the courage to stay out of other countries/wars/conflicts, and let you Europeans go back to killing each other as you have for a thousand years. If I get my way, you best brush up on your Russian.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 Tell me, are you writing from 1986? The Russians aren't going anywhere - except on luxury yachts, as I can see from my window. And if you want to consider a comparison between the American mindset and the defunct Soviet one, please explain the difference between "believing the state has the right to tax you but only to provide fat cops to shoot you and you are scum if you are poor" and "believing the state has the right to make you work on absurd five-year plans." All brainwashing..
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
@Cronos77267 haha, fucking idiot. Have some more respect for the French, you Americans were gonna lose to the Brits in 1776, and they saved your arse
wedgy4life 2 months ago
@Goldengirl19601 "...how every nation should be..." What?...arrogant of presentation, weak of will, cowardly of deed, greedy of nature, convoluted of politics, lazy of character, unwashed of body, taxed to death, broke, with dogsh!t on every sidewalk.
Good food though. And the art ain't so bad neither.
pine829 2 weeks ago
@pine829 I take it you gained your knowledge of France from National Lampoon's European Vacation. How typical. But then, you do come from the vast lavatory in which Glenn Beck and Dr Phil are considered to be intellectuals.
Goldengirl19601 2 weeks ago
Chorus (basically):
we will slit the throats of our enemies and have it water our fields XDD
crunchkinsbigsister 2 months ago
You pointed a microphone at a speaker to get this song, you complete idiot!
CaptainSiberia 2 months ago
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FRANCO-REPTILIANS, BROTHERS OF GERMANO-BARBARIANS
unfukkkmee 2 months ago
After a thousand years of the Brits and French beating each other up we are now friends with our nearest neighbour. I wish the British national anthem was as stirring as France's La Marseillaise, if it was we may still be in the 2011 Rugby World Cup and would have won the football (soccer for you Americans out there) World Cup again.
gh4947 3 months ago
@gh4947 IM african french german jewish italian norman latin greek czech south indian spanish hebrew welsh british english Galiec and more
apewrathful 3 months ago
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@apewrathful DEATH TO BARBARIC LITTLE Britain
unfukkkmee 2 months ago
I think this song should be turn into a heavy metal song. it has the lyrics already it just need some guitar and drums!
punctuationgamer636 3 months ago
@punctuationgamer636 Wish granted.
Google video: la Marseillaise Metal Rock Punk French National Anthem Inophis
pine829 2 weeks ago
Not only do some liberal idiots criticize the Marseillaise, but they complain about the US National Anthem and there is a large active group of liberals in the US who want to do away with the National Anthem of the US, because they say it is barbaric.
I love the Marseillaise, because it is the most upbeat anthem and I also love our own National Anthem. The Hungarian National Anthem is nice too, almost a prayer and for musical score, the Russian anthem is great.
Best regards from Oklahoma.
justcruisingby 3 months ago
Dude, I'm from Malaysia and I love this anthem =)
If I visit France one day, I'm sure I'll have lots of fun.
It's a really beautiful country.
GillianGerardSingh 3 months ago
Wow this anthem is really long. but I like the meaning of it. Go France!!!
PinkCurtainable 3 months ago
France et Vietnam sont amis
nduy92 3 months ago
Respetando el himno frances, y tambien el de Estados Unidos... Con todo respeto, los dos son violentos. Merci.
kalilaxxx 3 months ago
:) Allez les bleus!!!!!! <3
italianstallion71 4 months ago
Awesome anthem from an Awesome country!
Stay Awesome!
<3 From Serbia :)
AnimationWords 4 months ago 12
@AnimationWords song gay
dvfendler 1 month ago
blood watered fields? ... Okay ... that's slightly off putting ...
WTFDOORFACE 4 months ago
i lived in France this summer. And now i really regret not being around for Bastille. Next yearrr!!!!
stxnlaxismaluvv6 4 months ago
most badass anthem lyrics evaaaaaaaar
TheDrev 4 months ago
Yeah baby! Our oldest and best friend, we have let her down miserably.
7mmike7 4 months ago
L'hymne le plus puissant au monde. VIVE LA FRANCE !
TheWhiteFaction 4 months ago
haha! even Canada's anthem beats the crap outta this!
blackwolfkodi 4 months ago
@blackwolfkodi the boring ass Canadian anthem doesn't hold a half broken candle stick to this!
bh5496 4 months ago
This Anthem is terrible.
It is all about that bloody French revolution.
Luftwaffe1941 5 months ago
Je vois des drapeaux suisses, Allemands, Aux USA dans le jardin des maisons de leurs pays respectifs, ils sont fiers de leur pays, on peu ne pas etre d'accord avec cet affichage de nationalisme mais c'est comme ça mais en France on en est toujours a se flageller avec cela comme si arbhorer le drapeau Francais c'était la honte et que seul l'extrème droite en avait le droit, nous les démocrates nous devons etre fiers de notre hymne, de notre drapeau et de notre pays VIVE LA FRANCE et vive l'EUROPE
chrisgigi67 5 months ago 2
I'm Scottish but I want to live in France someday, hopefully Paris! Long live France!
UltraDefender84 5 months ago 5
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@UltraDefender84 you are fake scot
Pirv3la 1 month ago
@UltraDefender84 Traitor
Agorsan 1 month ago
the american are in Afganistan , the french are in libya. now i see why.,,,,both countries national anthem is about war!
ucheHapers 5 months ago
listern to the best national athem. type ''BEYONCE SINGS NIGERIA NATIONAL ATHEM.
lexyskiny 5 months ago
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VIVE LA FRANCE!!!
alexalexalex5050 5 months ago
Epic Anthem.
345matrim 6 months ago 2
That old black and white photo of "Gen. DeGaule's Free French Army" looked indeed to be of mostly Black, presumably Senegalese Soldiers. Let no one forget that the Black and Berber Soldier's are who fought for France against Fascism, many laying their lives down for the Republique!
wer58wit 6 months ago
the time when the nationl antem was written was nat so plesant there were war days so the anthem seems voilent !!
charmingshivangi1990 6 months ago
I know allmost nothing in french but im pretty sure i can sing this song without accent.
TheIcelandicPatriot 6 months ago
happy nasty cheese anniversary !!!
chafikooo81 6 months ago
tomorrow i will visit cote d'azur france :D cheers from roumania
VSOctavian 6 months ago
LATIN EUROPE, THE BEST
davlor86 6 months ago
so much hatred and violence in a song which defines the identity of a nation...
priyochatterjee1 6 months ago
Love it..the French flair..belongs only to the French..marvelous!!
bendvd6 6 months ago
I love this song, france, and the french culture and language. I hope I can visit it someday
truthseeker370 7 months ago
I had to write all the lyrics for homework, .... My arm died a slow painful death...
Still it's a great anthem, i now know a couple of verses :D
Blizzardwizard11 7 months ago
I love FRANCE, its people and its language. The world owes a debt to the french that can never be repaid. There is no city like PARIS. GOD BLESS FRANCE!!!!!
macbeebee 7 months ago
I think it's good that they have "aux armes citoyen" seeing as the average French man is fond of deserting surrendering and collaborating when it comes to military matters
commander07 7 months ago
@commander07 read a book that's not bullshit to learn how the french really fought during WWII. if anyone it's the ITALIANS people should rag on.
bh5496 4 months ago
Wow, what a piece of shit national song... like anyone else. Good work on the translation though:)
Remman 7 months ago
If the french had not helped George Washington during the revolution there never would have been an America you dumb moron.
macbeebee 7 months ago 2
@macbeebee Man, I have no idea why I wrote that, but I apperently did... drunk as hell and bitter probably:S I really like it=)
Remman 7 months ago
I like France's anthem, I'm Mexican and I love our anthem too, its very revolutionary
mujerazteca18 7 months ago
I'm Australian and love your national anthem. You can feel the passion in the lyrics of the revolutionary spirit.
euromellows 7 months ago
America has the best anthem! No offense :/
2murphygirls 7 months ago
@2murphygirls not to be mean or racist or anything bad but i find usa national anthem kinda boring
DreamzMoneyCanBuy202 7 months ago
that song soundd wrong in my opinion, glory, killing, defense, and then glory for paris. it seems more a challenge to war in some areas and down right murder, whenit come to watering the furrows, i know its hypercritical but i do have few question about the wether the french could live up to it now, considering the past century
WintersFinalstand 8 months ago
Aussi l'Amérique suce, suce-Bretagne, Germay suce, suce la Russie au Moyen-Orient aspire., jamais dernier d'entre eux a eu un empire prises loin d'eux, jusqu'à ce qu'une nation est capable de maintenir son empire que vous n'avez pas le droit d'être mise à d'autres nations que vous paysanne
TyberZane 8 months ago
C'est ma seule opinion. L'hymne français a été écrit à une époque de guerres, troubles civils et le général américain mayhem.The hymne a été writtin pendant une à part entière war.The civile de l'humeur et l'époque de chaque hymne est différente et reflète la vision de chaque écrivains de leur musique.
TyberZane 8 months ago
@TyberZane certes c ton opinion mais le coup des paroles violentes on nous l'a déjà fait, l'essentiel est de respecter ceux qui sont morts pour la liberté et la démocratie pour que n'importe quel citoyen dans ce pays puisse s'exprimer voila ce qui est important ,les paroles sont se quelles sont pas de raison de changer sinon pourquoi pas les adapter en disco ou r'n'b. Faudrais voir à etre sérieux maintenant que les Ricains viennent nous dire que c violent défense de rire: les USA sont violents.
chrisgigi67 5 months ago
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Send all those middle easterners back to their own country also... they are trying to take over...
Terminatorfy 8 months ago
The french helped us win the revolutionairy war but we would of won anyway by that time.. Just would of taken longer. : ) and france was a very current
Violent country.
Terminatorfy 8 months ago
Lol why is it that so many of us americans are so rude?
Terminatorfy 8 months ago
thats one gay anthem.....America's IS BETTER FRENCH FRIES
SaturnAndItsRings 9 months ago
@SaturnAndItsRings lol I think that there are more gays in your country than in France.
garsdusud1 9 months ago
@garsdusud1 but your anthem sounds like crap!
SaturnAndItsRings 9 months ago
@SaturnAndItsRings you can't understand this song because it depends on the context. your country is young contrary to France. read the story of this anthem and you'll understand the lyrics.
garsdusud1 9 months ago
@garsdusud1 No, if someone doesn't understand it, more likely because of a horrible translation, not historical ignorance.
Non. Si quelqu'un ne le comprend pas (en anglais), il est plus probable que c'est à cause d'une erreur de traduction, pas l'ignorance historique.
macornelius 9 months ago
@SaturnAnditsRings America ist the most shitty Country in the world , dude . I In no other country, the criminality rate is greater than in America. And there more gays in America then in any other country get it!
MrCedric3532 8 months ago
@MrCedric3532
The criminality rate in france is great too.. look at the ghettos.
Obviously, you have a problem with gay people, retarded?
Vance96 8 months ago
@Vance96 man lock at the ghetto's in america . 15.000 people are dead cause of that gang shit. And no, i don't. When i sayed that ???
MrCedric3532 8 months ago
I wish the American anthem was as beutiful
bassbass99able 9 months ago
i like french cheese
WiiAhoy 9 months ago
im english, but i love this anthem and love france! :)
Greetings from England!
sharlay123 9 months ago
@sharlay123 I love your anthem too, Great Britain and France are two great countries !!
garsdusud1 9 months ago
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Deutschland Deutschland über alles.....
Riuk881 9 months ago
tune
oberowns 10 months ago
The soldiers at the Arc De Triumphe are British or Commonwealth troops - it was their sacrifice that allows the French to bask in their reflected glory today. Britain lost her commonwealth to join the EU - never let us forget
hughjoseph1 10 months ago
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Phenomenal anthem.
tallshipman 10 months ago
Phenomenal anthem.
tallshipman 10 months ago
Viva la France,
STEALTH1USA 10 months ago
Best anthem by far!
It rules!!!!!!
nuage7777 10 months ago 15
I disagree. The French National anthem is bloody. It sounds like a Muslim fundamentalists terrorist exhorting the patriots to go out and kill everyone in the name of France! That's why I love the "Star Spangled Banner". It watches our flag and hopes through the rockets and the bombs bursting (the troubles and trials of life) that our great nation can still survive it all. It asks each generation if it "yet waves O'er the land of the free, and the home of the brave?" Ours is the best!
hairymelen 3 months ago
@hairymelen so you didn't understand the meaning of the french anthems, it's all about defending our country against kings/fascist. not about killing those who don't think like us
bingofioul 3 months ago
@hairymelen This anthem was written during the French revolution when the whole Europe has declared the war against France in order to support our king. They did an invasion of our country. In the end, we beat them all Austrian, Prussian etc...and we cut the heard of our royal familly. it's the beginning of the French democracy.
btw, the US anthem is boring and I don't like the song.
minhounou 3 months ago
@minhounou The French revolution resulted in thousands of innocent people being beheaded and Napoleon, with the defeat of France
jackzero99 3 months ago
@jackzero Ok go back to learn the history of your own country and then, come to speak with me about France...
The French revolutionnary wars (1792-1802) was a FRENCH VICTORY against the others EU countries, (Treaty of Lunéville and Treaty of Amiens)
You speak about Napoleon, the Napoleon wars began in 1803 until 1815, 14 years after the French revolution, France fought against many coalitions, in this time it's France who declared the wars in order to extend his territory in Europe,
minhounou 3 months ago
GERMANY RULES
huntercross14 11 months ago
Je suis américain, mais j'adore la France et tout autour d'elle! Je viens "Home" comme le disent certains en Amérique. Je vous aime, même si je ne vous le savez! VIVE LE FRANCE! allez Paris Saint-Germain!
TheJordanAntibellum 11 months ago
@TheJordanAntibellum
thank you so much for this kind message. We love you also very much even if we do not always agree with you
Hadrien06100 10 months ago
@Hadrien06100 My best friend was born in Nice. She told me all about Mardi Gras and I was like.. "Momma, instead of New Orleans this year, can we go to the real deal". she was like "Sure". I am coming france!!!! Live long!
TheJordanAntibellum 10 months ago
@TheJordanAntibellum
Non, Allez Le Mans FC :D
GarreauQuentin72 5 months ago
Precioso himno!
Saludos desde Mexico hasta Francia!
LEGIONARIO1970 11 months ago
haha idk waht this song is saying lol
scootiebabie 11 months ago
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i prendre des cours en français, mais j'ai envie de parler en français est appropriot en ce moment et cet hymne est awesome.LONG LIVE LE FRANÇAIS ET AMERICAINS!
joyfullxbox 11 months ago
Les américains me font trop rire. " the lyrics are so violents" Mais bien sur que c'est violent, l'hymne n'a pas étée écrite par les bisounours. Peuple américains respecté notre hymne, une chanson plus vieille que votre pays. Merci.
lenny89100m 11 months ago 24
@lenny89100m J'adore ton com !!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD "par des bisounours" !!!!! j'ai eu un gros beug , je me suis imaginer Rouget de lisle façon bisounours =p
narusasusaku87 11 months ago
@lenny89100m Les versets du l'hymne americaine sont plus violents que les versets de la Marseillaise, parce qu'il parle des bombes qui explodent dans le ciel, des fusees.
DarkAncientZ 6 months ago
@DarkAncientZ Can you get some one to translate tht for me to english
neverboy916 6 months ago
@neverboy916 I said that the american anthem's lyrics are more violent than the french's one, because of the "the bombs bursting in air" part.
DarkAncientZ 6 months ago