people in south east asia are doom to hell is guess..because they are musical people..islam is spread and excelerate the conversion by using music..and is not just using tamborine..a lot local instrument like gamelan..wich is a gong esemble..since arab dont know this thing..is it haram too..because daawa is spread in south east asia by music, art and trade not war or conquest like most of the middle east
quote: 39:23--> in summary: "Allah has sent down the best of the books". true, no question about it. Quote: 6:114--> Summary "Bleive in Allah's book only". Also true. Never questioned it. Of course all muslims believe that. There was no mentioning of not relying on the hadith. We use hadiths because not everything is mentioned in the quraan 18:109. We simply use the hadiths to allow us to understand the quran and other live matters. Most of the tafseer comes from the hadiths. We don't worship it
@hazemalsaadi and I classified you because i know from my shia friends that a lot don't believe in hadiths. no harm nor disrespect intended. But what I said earlier stands true. There are a lot of differences and unfortunately the label had to exist
@hazemalsaadi I am not shia, not sunni or anything. I am MUSLIM. Quran says it is consistent in itself (39:23, 6:114). So you "using hadiths to understand quran" reasoning is wrong.
By the way labels exist because people like you started to deviate quran and look for other sources.
My friend, I mean no offence. Just try to read Quran with sincere, pure heart. QURAN DOES NOT CONTAIN scripts of dead cultures. IT IS MORE THAN SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. PEACE
music is not haram. if it was then why does god allow it in heaven? the qur'an is supposed to be a perfect book. right? so if it was harram then it would say so in the qur'an. believe the book of god before you believe a book written by man.
@tribalwarriorgirl so you want to tell me its ok to hear music its not haram ? well you go hear and dance and enjoy your time with the kufar but we will see you in the judgment day going to hell because , you said its halal while its not , and why you dont now that its not music in heaven its singing which means without using a guitar or piano or any tool because these tools are made by demons we dont have these in the deen of allah .
when they say that music is the instrument of Satan, IT IS 100% TRUE! just look at the 60s, heck look at the world BEFORE the invention of the guitar, or even jazz; and now look at the world, all these silly "goths", or "gangsta" rap and crap, or mindless pop; all of it makes doing drugs, having sex like crazy, etc. SOCIAL NORMS....and you know its true, just look at the youth and society, they all think that sinful behavior is COOL!
inshallah, musiclovers and addicts who have to give up the "drug" willl do so; but don't leave the faith, if you are muslim, just so you can go listen to nonsense music; be patient and inshallah you find it more than easy and bearable to go about not listening to music, trust me as a former music addict
@Ogou123 right on dude; When i first heard that music was haram, i was in a state of shock; I LOVED playing and hearing music, jazz, classical, and rock; and i would play them whenver i did anything, homework, chores, reading, sleeping; and i would literally hear songs in head too, day and night; i loved and almost "idolized" certain musicains, making them my heros and role models; and sometimes, when i heard music, i would get into this state of ectasy, like the feeling you get in concerts
@risbysarwar but when i heard about the truth behind the music industry, the harmful effects music has on people, how it shapes opinions and controls, how it lowers your inhibitions and makes you want to emulate the rockstars and people who lead very sick, disgusting lives (hardcore drugs, sex, etc.), the more i realized the that islam making music haram is such a logical, and beneficial law that protects us, keeps us free from the mindcontrol of music, and keeps us pure and clear-headed
after hearing many schloars reiterate the same thing that music is haram, my state of shock, anger, and resentment gave way to coming to appreciate Islam much more; music is a waste of time, sure its enjoyable, but really, its not vital and we do not HAVE to have it; you can say classical music is intelligent, but nevertheless, it takes up your time and deviates you from REAL life; if you were a hardcore music lover like me, then know this that truly what the quran and hadiths say is best
@Ogou123 this is the most funniest top 5 ive ever read.... Where did you get anger and denial ...i mean seriously how on earth can you sit there and judge millions of people ...this shows your ignorance of knowing god and mankind. ...
@MegaMrname correction: The sources of Islam are: Quran and Hadiths. Quran says many times to listen to the prophet and thats why Hadiths are also a source
@hazemalsaadi Quran says listen to the prophet. Hadiths are written after the death of Muhammad. It means that whatever these hadithers did were a vain attempt to reach prophecy. I believe Muhammad is the last prophet not Bukhari. In addition Listen to the prophet doesn't indicate to listen to hadiths. By the way verses 39:23, 6:114 warns us against non-quranic resources. Hadiths change because some of them are considered weak or strong by today's people. Quran never changes.
@MegaMrname Rest assured my friend. Although the hadiths were collected after the prophet (PBUH), the ones classified as true are indeed true. People cared about memorizing hadiths just as much as they cared for the quran. You should leave this matter to people who study hadiths and are capable of distinguishing the right ones from the wrong ones. There are people who spend their whole lives learning it. If you were a carpenter, you wouldn't question a surgeon about a surgery, correct?
@hazemalsaadi NO this view is wrong. There is a clear verse CLAIMING that you need quran only. Hadithers told that you cannot pray using quran I found more than 50 verses in Quran. No no this is not all. Quran is consistent with itself.
@MegaMrname The quraan makes it clear to listen to the prophet. Also, hadith collectors didn't ever say not to use the quran. The quran says numerous times to listen to the prophet and therefor we include the hadiths as well. Now you tell me why do you deny the truths to the hadiths, while hadith scholars have classified them into strongly correct and so on? No one said Bukhari is a prophet. He simply collected the sayings people memorized and put the them in a book.
@hazemalsaadi Quran tells listen to prophet. "People memorized" that's a good one. How do you know people didn't lie? Quran is not a fairy tale where you memorize and pass to next generation. QURAN NEVER SAYS LISTEN TO HADITHS.
Ok, can you tell me please there is anything in Quran what do you need these hadiths for?
@MegaMrname ok mr shia. i am not. there is not enough room on youtube to explain to your illiterate mind. you have basically no degree what so ever in religious studies and now you're questioning me with things that don't make sense and quotes you misinterpret and analyze to your liking. how do i know you have no religious degrees to qualify you to make decisions? because the arguments you use are irrelevant and not something to debate on.
@hazemalsaadi Looks like you are more illiterate than i am. Keep worshipping "scholars". Ignore Quranic facts. You are a true muslim. That's why you are labeled as shia, sunni and whatever. PEACE
@hazemalsaadi there are multiple proofs the hadiths you question are true, same with the quraan. Problems arise when knowledg-less people question a whole topic in which they have no background in. Like I said, if you don't know surgery, you won't be questioning surgery, you'd in fact let the real surgeon worry about that topic. same thing for religion. Hadith scholars worry about this topic. With "Illiterate", I simply implied it to hadiths; not generally speaking.
That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "Musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." - I found this on the net, anyone knows how this all fits together?
This guy is so brainwashed it's scary. Music is part of who we are, ignorance towards something so close our heart is so upsetting. Every single person on this plant appreciates music IF they haven't been manipulated into thinking it's hell-worthy D:
Im not really sure what you meant by any of that, and you missed my point completely. Im not a scholar but I am smart enough to know that people do lie and people are not perfect, not even the precious scholars. I do not know what you are talking about, about a rap video about Islam, but I am done debating. I just want people to think for themselves; and that I do not believe everything people tell me. Thats all. Peace brother.
Some scholars say it is haraam some say it is not.. I am not too concerned with what scholars say. Scholars CAN be wrong too; They are not perfect. I have corrected professors who were wrong in my college classes. If I had not questioned there teachings, and did the research for myself, myself and the entire class would have been misinformed and still believed the wrong information to this day. Always question things; if you do, then you can never be fooled.
@FortnerEntertainment ok mr researcher.. u reach a scholar status maybe then ill listen to ur questions... its not a joke reaching scholar status u know... much better than making a rap video about islam.... rap was inpsired by the likes of tupac etc etc are they our role models?
@adilg89 The Quran does not say it is haraam, but scholars do? Yes, I do question the scholars because the scholars are normal men, not prophets. It is dangerous not to question things; that is how people are led astray brother..by putting that much faith into man. How do you think people believe some of the crazy things they do?....because that have that mindset of, "don't question him; he is a scholar". I am not going to live by something just because scholars say to. That is ignorance.
@FortnerEntertainment do u question the doctor when he gives u medicine? do u go and make ur own medicine?NO... so why question the scholars... who have no personal gain out of 'leading peaple astray'
I really feel sorry for any of you who believe this nonsense. Fear of Hell? So this all loving God will send his most "loved" creation to Hell for listening to music? Come on, this is ridiculous. How can any of you in the civilized world believe this medieval crap which uses fear, yes FEAR as its main cause of justification. And the guy doing this video is a hypocrite. He made millions in the music industry? I doubt he gave any of that money away did he after being soo sinful. You only live once
First of all we should be polite in our discussion and discourses, weather this guy has donated or not is not my issue. My problem is being fair and reasonable as you said most loving God will burn people because they heard music, please pray for my that' I could continue to be on balanced path, I believe it's not the content rather what you do with.
@adamsports What is really fair here? The fact that people are so brainwashed by this nonsense, that they waste their lives believing and living life in such a way? Life would be a very dull one without music, yet you have this hypocrite stating the punishment could be an eternity in hell! If God was really all loving universal salvation would be a possibility, but that is not the case in Islam. Islam has no idea how to fit into the 21st century. Im not talking about individual Muslims but Islam
@EazyBone5150 weve been put on this earth for on purpose... worship the one true god... im sure u agree..
not to listen to music... muslim has subliminal messages.... it wastes ppelaes times... it also decreases ur concentration whilst doing things...just all negatives
I'm not looking for music licence but good sound information, the problem is that person starts talking about music and move in different areas connecting dots, for example i heard in this video that said It's is allowed in Islam to play music such as sheik said daf and he said Prophet (sa) liked that, why because according to the tradition he the Prophet (sa) allowed it but shiek said with lots of restrictions having no bells etc but again that is what speaker is saying and just unbalanced info
ASAK, How can music be haram when ALLAH (swt) gave it as a revelation to Prophet Dawud in the Zabur (Psalms), where Prophet Dawud's singing voice and ability on the harp were from ALLAH (swt).
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YUSUFALI: And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We did bestow on some prophets more (and other) gifts than on others: and We gave to David (the gift of) the Psalms."
Surely a revelation would not come in a fashion that was haram.
There's no false/errors in the Quran. but you can misunderstand it if you read the transelation, becuase one arabic word means few things, and the btw music is not haram, Nasheeds are not haram, good speech (about peace) is NOT haram, I SWEAR.
but if you listen to like nigger nigger nigger sexy big noob fail fool cheese bighead, something like this, This is not allowed! because it's idle talk, No meaning, away from path of god.
i m simply unable to understand that why the fck am i able to see comments from my account that i have never posted , sing ,dance , dope , go for war , go for peace , nuke the world , do what ever the fck u all want leave me fkin alone , m sick and tired of these comments from my account that generate a new response for me every day.....
I have to be honest since i stopped listening to music , i feel much better in myself, i used to get alot of negative thoughts which have stopped. Before i stopped listening to it, i knew there was something negative in it, if you search topics such as illuminati and freemason music you will realise the basis for it. even real christians know music is sorcery and satanic. My heart is so calm since listening to quran and shunning music. Islam is the best!!.
I CANNOT stand music, its the work of the devil. KaonNeutre i pity people like you who can't tell the difference between birds singing and musical instruments!. Birds singing is halal, however listening to filthy music is haram. Since listening to the quran i become annoyed when i listen to music alhumdulillah which is a good sign. May Allah guide us all and destroy the hypocrites, ameen.
i listen to music but it dont astray away from god im always praying my namaz and allah is alwayz on my mind when im at home and when im out everyday i thank him all that he has given me but when i listening to music it makes me happy and it dont really say in the quran that its not allowed
@alonsomaldonado Music takes a person away from God because the beat and the person singing makes your body instantly want to sing and dance along allowing you to want to constantly hear it but then you listen to it so much that you forget religion slowing without realizing it thereby before one dies they dont want to hear Gods words rather to something that made them feel better ,music, here this temporary life an this causes them to go astray from God......I hope this helps :)
@DreamingBig106 Yes please send me more information. I am trying to distinguish were is the line between superstition and an honorable religion. For example please let me know how this music takes me away from god (watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M)
@alonsomaldonado i did not get the link for that url that you wanted me to see it doesnt send me anywhere and what I can tell you is that Music is Haram but only to an extent like one can not listen to is all the time only certain times like partys or celebration thats what its meant for
@alonsomaldonado but another good point is that a man or womans voice when singing becomes more attractive to another person and it creates corruption like a married man wanting to hear JLO rather then his beloved wife. But that is one of the many example I can tell you but I will be sending more info soon :)
Apparently you're following your conventions, but unfortunately in Islam it doesn't work that way if "Mohammed PBUH " said it's forbidden then it's forbidden and there is no chance for anyone to make himself a profit claming whatever he wants!
@yharara88 But are these hadiths authenticated? And even if they are, did'nt the prophet say that music is fine on special occasions (i.e marriage?) I don't listen to evil, blasphemous trash, and I've seen music help people strengthen their faith. Plus the Quran (the verbatum word of God!) does not prohibit music. So long as it is not against god and does not include lewdness and blasphemy, were is the evil in it?
The only answer that you could be answered is what is authenticated about Profit Mohammed PBUH: There will be people from my nation who claim zina, silk, lewdness , and music to be permitted calling them with other names.
SHeikh Yusuf Estes already said that the duff is only permitted on marriage occasions, not all the time.
I don't really get why are you insisting that Quran doesn't prohipt music although Quran explicitly say that whatever the Profit orders , you must take, and what ever he prohibits is prohibited.
Hearing you talking that way makes me feel that you aren't a Muslim or you have a problem with understanding how Mohammed is your Profit.
I want you to imagine him PBUH telling you face to facethat music is prohibited, would you ask him,if that was an order or not.
Apparently you're following your conventions, but unfortunately in Islam it doesn't work that way if "Mohammed PBUH " said it's forbidden then it's forbidden and there is no chance for anyone to make himself a profit claming whatever he wants!
Microwaving your food is really bad for your health because microwave ovens emmit radiation as like rediation is emiitted by nuclear reactors, but having a lower radiation signature. This man has no clue what are the complexities in living in the age of dajjal. Microwave your water and give it to your plant it will degenerate at an increasing rate overtime and die. Microwave should be declared haram,if not this haram concept fallible
May Allah guide you with the internal reality of things.
Anyone that doesn't submit to the will of God will burn in the hellfire. Thats a fact. People have no discipline and self control. Islam is not an Arabic religion, its THE religion for humanity , for the rich, for the poor, and all colors that Allah created. Allah is the only God and Prophet Muhammad (saw) is His last and final messenger. This is also a fact. I love all of you believers who pray and remember Allah as much as you can. Music = Sourcery = Evil= Hellfire
@Youngchiza5 give me a date, i'll mark my calendar.
why are you waiting by the way? go kill yourself if you want to die. you won't be missed and the world will be a better place. just don't blow yourself up on a bus like most muslims like you do, leave normal people out of it.
@karlsmith00 Don't say you weren't warned on the day of judgment. And in the grave you'll see that Muhammad (saw) is a true prophet. Time will tell for you.
@Youngchiza5 don't say nobody told you that you're a dumb fucking muslim with no common sense, when you die and realize nothing happens. you're going to rot just like anybody else. you aren't getting any virgins.
muhammad was a child fucking terrorist who should have been kicked in the balls for being a pedophile. MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA. you don't belong here.
The Bible is filled with singing in faith and hymns and... oh, it's just so beautiful. People have always, since the beginning of time, sung not only to give praise and thanks to God, but to feel spiritually healthier and to celebrate wonderful events, etc. A lot of types of music are good for the mind and soul, as they have been since the beginning. Shame on Mohammad for restricting it and filling people with fear of hell for doing something that God meant for us to enjoy. I'm sickened by this.
@rosemary7913 Music without Instruments or Music with those Instruments that are allowed in Islam. Music that is prohibited is Rock, Metal, Guitar or any other musical instrument. Singing in faith is just like reciting the Holy Quran with proper tarteel. And there are naats that use allowed instruments or no instrument. Sound Effects are created using human voice. This is allowed in Islam. And Regarding Fear of Hell. Islam never says that you will go to hell by listening to prohibited music....
@rosemary7913 What islam says is that if you listen to prohibited Music, then music will take you towards Sin and will make you addicted to it. And Once you are addicted it gets very difficult to get out of it. And this addiction will cause you to do other Sins and gradually increasing the level of your sins. If a person does not repents then a time will come that that person will be filled up with so many Sins, that the person will be led towards Hell. It may take several years but this will ..
@rosemary7913 ...spread like bacteria in heart. Islam warns beforehand about the dangers that lie ahead or the traps of Satan. God has allowed us to enjoy but within the limits that are prescribed by Him.
@Y3DXGL90 LOL that's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. As I said, music in several forms is good for the heart. And I've read a hadith where Mohammad said that the bell is the instrument of Satan! I suppose Christians that use bells to call people to Church are from Satan too? I suppose the concert band in which I play the flute (that I've played for 10 years) that produces beautiful, classical, emotionally moving pieces of music leads to sin? If anything, it leads to spiritual enlightenment.
@Y3DXGL90 Just because Mohammad didn't like the sound of the bell and was against music himself, doesn't mean everyone else should live repressed lives "in the name of God." Shame on Mohammad for making people believe and become devout to such horrible lies as this.
@rosemary7913 Well i guess this was too heavy for you. In Islam, things do not immediately become obligatory. For example, if i am addicted to something then Islam allows me to take my time and use my sincerity to get out of that Addiction. because when a person is traped in something, then it takes time to get out of it. So Islam allows us to do that. It may take several years and the time allowed to repent is your whole life. Christians are not from satan at all. do not take things out of ...
@rosemary7913 ...context. Just remember that if you want to study a book. You will start reading that book from the beginning that is the very first chapter, you will not directly jump to chapter 14 else you will be led into a confusion. So study islam from very first chapter, that is the Concept of GOD. And then proceed ahead.
@Y3DXGL90 I've already done that, and either way, forbidding (even restricting) music is ridiculous and sick. And using your addiction example was not very intelligent, as music is not a bad thing. It is an integral part of life to so many people. I thank God that Christianity embraces and encourages music. And then what does Mohammad do? Centuries later, he comes around and tries saying that it leads to sin! If anything, it can keep people from sin, so even saying something like that is sin.
My scriptures say, use everything is the service of God. If you have music sing the glories of the Lord beautifully by using all the instruments you have. Everything belongs to God so offer it to Him everything beautiful with sincerity. Banning something is not a solution, redirecting it in an appropriate manner is the way.
That he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saying, “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider zina (fornication/adultery), the wearing of silk [for men], the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the ""use of musical instruments, as lawful""…” [Bukhari: Book 7: Volume 69: Hadith 494]
No music instruments in Islam? Music is prohibited in Islam???
I know many scientific errors in quran, many things I find morally unacceptable... But prohibiting music is beyond my understanding. If I were christian I would say it comes directly from the devil.
Music is one of the greatest and poetic creation of the human brain... and it is Haram in Islam? Can muslims appreciate the beautiful bird's singing? The soft chant of whales?
I am shocked and disgusted! I pity muslims... deeply.
@KaonNeutre Did know listen to the video, for you made up your mind before listening? Music is okay in Islam, but not all knid of music i.e. swearing and the iikes are not allowed. What Islam does is make you think about the kind of music you listen to and then chosen. Hope this makes it like.
@KaonNeutre Sorry, " Did you listen to the video, or you made up your mind before listening? Music is okay in Islam, but not all knid of music i.e. swearing and the iikes are not allowed. What Islam does is make you think about the kind of music you listen to and then chosen. Hope this makes it like.
@KaonNeutre Most definitely do not need your pity. Think about music today,majority of music has lyrics that are corrupt...Lil boys n girls in barely any clothing gyrating and singing about getting high etc...Wht r the Scientific errors you talk about? Are you a Science professor? And who said Music is 1 of our greatest creations? When Allahswt himself has warned that Shaytaan will use our natural disposition towards music to corrupt (music business) and cause us to stray from our true purpose,
@MrsTArshad "do not need your pity" I know... It's stronger than me... I feel like that.
"majority of music has lyrics that are corrupt" Yes, there is bad lyrics in some musics. The real way to deal with it is to educate your child to be critic about that music. A proper education is the best natural barrier... much better than prohibition.
"Science professor?" I'm a scientist yes.
"who said Music is 1 of our greatest creations?" Many peoples. Me the first.
@MrsTArshad "Allahswt himself has warned that Shaytaan will use our natural disposition towards music"
Hum.. no... Actually, Allah never spoken "himself" because everybody would have eared it. It's Muhammad that pretend to have been spoken by Allah. You've choose (or have been taught) to believe muhammad. Not Allah himself. That is a false statement...
Oh yeah? Multiply your feeling by 4209542334 and you will have a glimpse on how shocked I am to see people living in a world modern enough to use a computer, but still believe that music is sorcery. I mean, I can't barely imagine that you are not kidding!!
@DontBeSleeper Why religious people don’t like beautiful thing, it seem they are afraid of them self by loosing self-control. These god rules are bullshit that coming from human. Why taking information from stupid book like coran and bible when the nature is there to answer to question. Science and objectivity is the best way to evolve out of darkness. From this you will wake up and understand who is stupid to make rules like banish music! Finaly YOU ARE DEEPLY SLEEP
@TheVermettov hmmm let us see...u do not believe in God cas u can not see ,hear ,touch,smell,taste God??? well tell me,can u : taste,smell,see,hear,touch Time???? but still it is there,isn't it....re consider who is deeply asleep again
We all can feel time on going! We don't need to taste,smell,see,hear,touch things to believe in it. But we must have some clues! You act as if you know something we don'T know... But you are an atheist too. Do you believe in Vishnu? In Zoroastrian?!? A lot of people "feel" them too... but they can listen to music. Why don't you realize how subjective your faith is!?
@KaonNeutre we all have feel that God exists as well, we dont need taste,smell,see,hear,touch to believe in Him. thanks for proving point
okay science proved that earth is old as much...but qur'an never claimed that it is younger? if humans came from evolution then tell me from where did cromagnonian evolved,name the pre specie which evolved INTO cromagnonian
No I'm not... You misread my post. I told you "we" including you and me. I don't feel anything about allah. I don'T feel fear or anything about not believing in what muhammad said. You don't feel guilty about not believing in zoroastrian which is not a "polytheist deity". You are an atheists about Zoroastrian.
Why are you talking about evolution? Why don't you try to prove adam and eve instead? You believe that you don't have to?
@TheVermettov and speaking of science,science actually never did nor tried to refute existance of God,science only explores things irrelevantly of who is creator of existance..if ur calling urself upon science u should know that much atleast
@DontBeSleeper "Science actually never did nor tried to refute existance of God"
It depends on your definition of God... Science PROVE that earth is around 4 billion years old. Science PROVE that living creature are linked by heredity. Science shown many things that is wrong in your "holy" book. The only thing you can do in "reinterpret" the meaning in a twisted manner so the problematic verses will fit modern discoveries. How long will you do that?!?
@KaonNeutre hmmm when was that? which verse did science prove wrong in qur'an? i dont know of any..but i will show u few which science confirmed 21:30 (something similar to theory of big bang) , quran 51:47 about expansion of universe, quran 41:11 about in which form was mattery before forming universe etc etc. and i see u have difficulties understanding terms atheist and polytheist...atheist is one who denies existance of God,but one who believes in many Gods is polytheist
if i refuse to believe in polytheistic ''dieities'' such r vishnu that does not make me atheist but antipolytheist which easily can be said ''monotheist''
@DontBeSleeper And according to your reasoning, explain me why polytheist believe is not better than monotheist. I suppose that your argument will not be based on reason and observation.
@DontBeSleeper Time can be measured precisely and we also know that speed of light is a limit. So notion of time is a concept resulting from well quantified observations. In a scientific point of view, question of excistence of god cannot be applied because no observation leads to this hypothesis. From your coran, you can only match scientific observations with interpretation of unclear sentences. Sorry, you cannot denied that :)
@DontBeSleeper You don't care about the numerous errors of the quran which obviously comes from a human(s). As an example, in some verses Allah says He created Adam from dust (3:59), from wet clay (38:71), from black burnt clay (aged mud, potter's clay) (15:26), from mud (6:2), from dirt of earth (20:55), out of nothing (19:9, 52:35), (every living creature) from water (24:45).
And there is many more errors... It's not even a well made human lie!!!
@DontBeSleeper If I would speak arabic, I would not be so much more intelligent and acknowledgeable than the so-called scholars (most of the time native arabs) that have translated the quran in a similar way. Your problem is not that the quran is written in arabic, it's that the verses are so fuzzy that you can't interpret them correctly. Moreover, you can't take the literal meaning which should be the real objective unbiased meaning ; in that way, YOU would find quran and hadith unacceptable!!!
@DontBeSleeper " name specie from which cromagnonian evolved? "
lol... fish. You have branchia in your fetus development! Did you knew that? If you hinder yourself to learn anything you will feel wise...
"how could ilitrate man know all that which i showed u?"
You didn'T show me anything else than a guy that "subjectively choose" the meaning of very fuzzy verses. How can you even try to interpret those fuzzy verses while there is much mistakes in the quran?!? My guess: you CAN'T be objective.
@DontBeSleeper Hey DontBeSleeper, I was speaking seriously, if my way to understanding the world through science is false, tell me how, don’t avoid to comment my remark. But please, use rationals arguments that can be used for all religions.
@TheVermettov 1st, science never did,nor tried to refute existance of God,science only explores nature and consenquences and past irrelevantly if it is created by God or not. seconld is tool for explaining religions,but also can be tool for confirm religions,depending from stances of that religion(if science proves them true or false) . furthermore science itself is attempting to be trutfull but it can be wrong as well.
@DontBeSleeper "Science actually never did nor tried to refute existance of God"
Science PROVE that sperm doesn't come from between rib and back bones (as quran says). It PROVE that living creature are linked by heredity. It show how the wind is the consequence of the sun heating and the rotation of the earth (not your prayer to allah). The only thing you can do is "reinterpret" the quran in a twisted manner so the problematic verses will fit modern discoveries. How long will you do that?!?
@DontBeSleeper Science do not try to refute god. You are right on that. However, science shows clearly that quran has nothing to do with neither god nor the cause of universe... It is man-made...
@KaonNeutre then check those verses which i showed u how could ilitrate man know that on his own?for example that universe is expanding,that living beings r (mostly) made from water,that earth and sky were one before they got separated(something as big bang theory) etc etc?
@DontBeSleeper This verse says that "He separate the earth and the sky". That means Allah (or muhammad) believe the sky is something material separated from the earth. The fact is that the earth was a cloud of atoms (gas and dust) that collapse into the solar system. The "sky" is only the gaseous part of that dust. YOU interpret it the way it please you...
Most of people was illiterate in the time of muhammad. Muhammad has physician, christians and Jews friends and neighbors.
@KaonNeutre no i do not interpret it on my own,please read this verse Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly." 41:11 is this not what u speak of also?
@DontBeSleeper "is this not what u speak of also?" no, it's not... Do heaven a part of this world? *sight*
"so which possible science did qur'an addopt from jews or christians?"
Well, quran say that earth is flat too... according to quran, you can reach where the sun sets (18:86) and where it rises (18: 90). But you can't be objective enough to face the truth: the quran is inspired by other holy books (as the bible) and not genuinely revealed by the creator of the universe...
@DontBeSleeper Does greeks was inspired by god by predicting atoms? By measuring the size of the earth and the distance moon-earth? You are a fool. Your so-called miracle only come from you twisted interpretation of extremely fuzzy and vague verses while you completely neglect the numerous errors and contradiction in the quran... wake-up buddy!
@KaonNeutre and no personal insults,scientists do not need them.. as for christians and jews and science from their books,bible says that earth is circle,and says that every kingdom on earth can be seen from 1 mountain (that earth is flat)- flat circle,and that was stance of early church for centuries,and people were burnt on stakes for saying opposite..so which possible science did qur'an addopt from jews or christians? as for greeks,qur'an says that every comunity had a warner-prophet
@DontBeSleeper Ok, if science cannot be applied to religion, what else can do it, your intuition? If it is your faith in a book, for me it not acceptable arguments. Why we cannot simply accept our ignorance for these fundamental questions. This way is not so bad when we consider that knowledge is some thing that you have to work hard to get it.
@DontBeSleeper Big bang: Science doesn't "confirm" the quran. YOU changed the meaning of the verse to fit it the modern knowledge. This verse says that "He separate the earth and the sky". That means Allah (or muhammad) believe the sky is something material separated from the earth. The fact is that the earth was a cloud of atoms (gas and dust) that collapse into the solar system. The "sky" is only the gaseous part of that dust. YOU interpret it the way it please you...
@DontBeSleeper 41;11 : "Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."
You cannot interpret this vague and fuzzy verse else than subjectively!!!
@DontBeSleeper The only thing science is not proving false or wrong is that universe has a cause (or a beginning). But that "cause" have nothing to do with the man(men?)-made god of the quran...
@KaonNeutre u think in this time the with dancing girls are halal or good ,,,just think about it then u can judge by ur self ,,, allah guide u ...inshallah
Islam only disallows musical instruments to be played because that carries you away from Allah. However the duff(one-sided drum) is allowed and women can even sing and play the duff in weddings and during other celebrations like the Eids. Islamic channels use softwares with natural sounds like gushing of the water, the birds chirping, the wind blowing and different natural aspects that allure you towards Allah along with beautiful human voice for islamic songs :)
@woundedaggression "musical instruments to be played because that carries you away from Allah."
How? and why?
"natural sounds like gushing of the water" A violin is made of wood and metal ropes. Everything is natural. Music is what you choose to do with. Rap and metal haven't the monopoly of music. What about opera? classic symphony? traditional chinese music? New age? etc..
@KaonNeutre Musical instruments mean that are designed purposely for music, that is what is haram, strings etc. No matter if they are made from wood or from whatever natural stuff. Even wine is made from fruits that doesn't mean wine is allowed. Natural SOUNDS are permitted. You should know the difference at least please. And I'm not well learnt about music and its genres, so I'm unable to comment about opera and others. However, halal music for praising a girl is also disallowed. Vanity talking
@KaonNeutre The Muslims all over the world are supposed to recite the Quran in a melodious manner that melts down your heart and moves you spiritually. The Meuzzins are supposed to give out the Azan in the most beautiful fashion so that people are allured to prayers. You can see how Islam turns negligence derived from music like metal, hip hop which insults women and treats them worst than mere objects for pleasure to something really fruitful and pure :)
@woundedaggression I think music instruments are prohibited in islam because it's a way to make muslims not mix with other tribes. It's a war strategy...
I'm pretty sure you don't even know why music carry you away from allah. The reasons you could find for any music instruments will be applicable to a human singing or a duff. You have been taught to not question yourself about that and about everything else supposedly coming from the creator of the universe.
@KaonNeutre Muslims do not refrain from music because of the so called "war strategy" against non-muslims, that would mean we can listen to music anytime except in the time war. That's completely false and your own words. In fact the mushriks of Arabia used to use the duff when marching, and muslims could use the duff, how is that then bein different from them or a war strategy ? I don't even get how not permitting music is even a war strategy ?
@woundedaggression "I don't even get how not permitting music is even a war strategy ?" It's a way to create a community that separate from "the others". You don'T listen others musics, you don'T mix. I guess pagans of the past were listening musics.
Anyway, you still didn'T answered my question: Why music is haram? Don't tells me "allah said so", it would mean you have no idea...
What is bad about dancing??? What is bad bout having fun? That doesn't mean spend a whole life to fun.
@KaonNeutre And I'm sure ! I have experienced how life is different and more peaceful without haram music, I used to rap myself. Not that rapping is haram but music is. And now when I listen to Islamic Nasheeds and praises of Allah and His Prophet(pbuh), that is more soothing and soft music is what I like now. So you see I was never stopped or enforced by someone to not listen to music rather I tried surrendering to Allah's Wisdom WITH my own CHOICE ! And found it as the better half :)My Choice!
@KaonNeutre Besides, haram music did turn me away from Allah, I didn't feel like praying or even hearing the Qur'an (God-forbid) or getting annoyed at the Azan(Call for prayers) whilst listening to music, so I know how that sways me away from Allah and how its as good as intoxicating yourself, when you lose control over yourself and start dancing and the adrenaline rush perhaps that DOES have affect on your consciousness.
@woundedaggression " start dancing and the adrenaline rush perhaps that DOES have affect on your consciousness."
Sure, it relax you and take off the excess of stress. It's good for your health. Balance of every sphere of your life is a good way. Not spending your life behind afraid of everything and having no idea why!
@KaonNeutre And I thought you had problem with Islam not allowing natural sounds and appreciating its beauty. Now that you know it is halal don't try to find baseless arguments and be convinced over your misconception now cleared. Stop being a typical Islam hater who has to make futile attempts in order to prove Islam wrong ! Islam does appreciate natural beauty of music, wasn't that your only concern ? Now appreciate Islam when it does so, stop this ruthless bias !
@woundedaggression "to prove Islam wrong ! " Islam doesn't need my help to prove itself wrong.
" stop this ruthless bias" Sorry... I don'T think you can judge if I'm biased or not since you can't evaluate yourself. If you are biased yourself, you will perceive anyone against your faith as biased...
" I'm not well learnt about music and its genres, so I'm unable to comment" You're then unable to explain me (and to your own consciousness) why it is haram...
people in south east asia are doom to hell is guess..because they are musical people..islam is spread and excelerate the conversion by using music..and is not just using tamborine..a lot local instrument like gamelan..wich is a gong esemble..since arab dont know this thing..is it haram too..because daawa is spread in south east asia by music, art and trade not war or conquest like most of the middle east
nicofriday 1 month ago
yusuf estes is so knowledgeable and hes a very cool guy and a good scholar
abdi2man 1 month ago
quote: 39:23--> in summary: "Allah has sent down the best of the books". true, no question about it. Quote: 6:114--> Summary "Bleive in Allah's book only". Also true. Never questioned it. Of course all muslims believe that. There was no mentioning of not relying on the hadith. We use hadiths because not everything is mentioned in the quraan 18:109. We simply use the hadiths to allow us to understand the quran and other live matters. Most of the tafseer comes from the hadiths. We don't worship it
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi and I classified you because i know from my shia friends that a lot don't believe in hadiths. no harm nor disrespect intended. But what I said earlier stands true. There are a lot of differences and unfortunately the label had to exist
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@hazemalsaadi I am not shia, not sunni or anything. I am MUSLIM. Quran says it is consistent in itself (39:23, 6:114). So you "using hadiths to understand quran" reasoning is wrong.
By the way labels exist because people like you started to deviate quran and look for other sources.
My friend, I mean no offence. Just try to read Quran with sincere, pure heart. QURAN DOES NOT CONTAIN scripts of dead cultures. IT IS MORE THAN SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. PEACE
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@Islamtalk100 So you believe religion doesn't control? Musical instruments are inanimate it's the musician which is good/evil.
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smudgek3 4 months ago
music is not haram. if it was then why does god allow it in heaven? the qur'an is supposed to be a perfect book. right? so if it was harram then it would say so in the qur'an. believe the book of god before you believe a book written by man.
tribalwarriorgirl 5 months ago
@tribalwarriorgirl so you want to tell me its ok to hear music its not haram ? well you go hear and dance and enjoy your time with the kufar but we will see you in the judgment day going to hell because , you said its halal while its not , and why you dont now that its not music in heaven its singing which means without using a guitar or piano or any tool because these tools are made by demons we dont have these in the deen of allah .
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tribalwarriorgirl 5 months ago
Are allowed to listen to music when working out?
RZ4HED23Q 5 months ago
How the heck can Muhammad p.b.u.h. say "there will be" if he does not know the future?Read the verse in the Qur'an 46:9,7:188
muded111 5 months ago
when they say that music is the instrument of Satan, IT IS 100% TRUE! just look at the 60s, heck look at the world BEFORE the invention of the guitar, or even jazz; and now look at the world, all these silly "goths", or "gangsta" rap and crap, or mindless pop; all of it makes doing drugs, having sex like crazy, etc. SOCIAL NORMS....and you know its true, just look at the youth and society, they all think that sinful behavior is COOL!
risbysarwar 6 months ago
@risbysarwar to some extent you are right and to some your wrong . Water is HALAL unless its mixed with ALCOHOL
mcgrawaddict 3 months ago
inshallah, musiclovers and addicts who have to give up the "drug" willl do so; but don't leave the faith, if you are muslim, just so you can go listen to nonsense music; be patient and inshallah you find it more than easy and bearable to go about not listening to music, trust me as a former music addict
risbysarwar 6 months ago
Stages before accepting the fact that music is haram:
1. Anger
2. Denial
3. Bargaining
4. Research reliable sources
5. Acceptance
Ogou123 6 months ago 14
@Ogou123 right on dude; When i first heard that music was haram, i was in a state of shock; I LOVED playing and hearing music, jazz, classical, and rock; and i would play them whenver i did anything, homework, chores, reading, sleeping; and i would literally hear songs in head too, day and night; i loved and almost "idolized" certain musicains, making them my heros and role models; and sometimes, when i heard music, i would get into this state of ectasy, like the feeling you get in concerts
risbysarwar 6 months ago
@risbysarwar but when i heard about the truth behind the music industry, the harmful effects music has on people, how it shapes opinions and controls, how it lowers your inhibitions and makes you want to emulate the rockstars and people who lead very sick, disgusting lives (hardcore drugs, sex, etc.), the more i realized the that islam making music haram is such a logical, and beneficial law that protects us, keeps us free from the mindcontrol of music, and keeps us pure and clear-headed
risbysarwar 6 months ago
after hearing many schloars reiterate the same thing that music is haram, my state of shock, anger, and resentment gave way to coming to appreciate Islam much more; music is a waste of time, sure its enjoyable, but really, its not vital and we do not HAVE to have it; you can say classical music is intelligent, but nevertheless, it takes up your time and deviates you from REAL life; if you were a hardcore music lover like me, then know this that truly what the quran and hadiths say is best
risbysarwar 6 months ago
@Ogou123 lmao so true
TheGateway7861 5 months ago
@Ogou123 this is the most funniest top 5 ive ever read.... Where did you get anger and denial ...i mean seriously how on earth can you sit there and judge millions of people ...this shows your ignorance of knowing god and mankind. ...
mcgrawaddict 3 months ago
@Ogou123 There is no source for Islam except Quran. There wasn't anything against music in Quran. Sorry
MegaMrname 2 months ago
@MegaMrname correction: The sources of Islam are: Quran and Hadiths. Quran says many times to listen to the prophet and thats why Hadiths are also a source
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi Quran says listen to the prophet. Hadiths are written after the death of Muhammad. It means that whatever these hadithers did were a vain attempt to reach prophecy. I believe Muhammad is the last prophet not Bukhari. In addition Listen to the prophet doesn't indicate to listen to hadiths. By the way verses 39:23, 6:114 warns us against non-quranic resources. Hadiths change because some of them are considered weak or strong by today's people. Quran never changes.
MegaMrname 2 months ago
@MegaMrname Rest assured my friend. Although the hadiths were collected after the prophet (PBUH), the ones classified as true are indeed true. People cared about memorizing hadiths just as much as they cared for the quran. You should leave this matter to people who study hadiths and are capable of distinguishing the right ones from the wrong ones. There are people who spend their whole lives learning it. If you were a carpenter, you wouldn't question a surgeon about a surgery, correct?
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi NO this view is wrong. There is a clear verse CLAIMING that you need quran only. Hadithers told that you cannot pray using quran I found more than 50 verses in Quran. No no this is not all. Quran is consistent with itself.
MegaMrname 2 months ago
@MegaMrname The quraan makes it clear to listen to the prophet. Also, hadith collectors didn't ever say not to use the quran. The quran says numerous times to listen to the prophet and therefor we include the hadiths as well. Now you tell me why do you deny the truths to the hadiths, while hadith scholars have classified them into strongly correct and so on? No one said Bukhari is a prophet. He simply collected the sayings people memorized and put the them in a book.
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi Quran tells listen to prophet. "People memorized" that's a good one. How do you know people didn't lie? Quran is not a fairy tale where you memorize and pass to next generation. QURAN NEVER SAYS LISTEN TO HADITHS.
Ok, can you tell me please there is anything in Quran what do you need these hadiths for?
MegaMrname 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi How can you explain the verses 39:23, 6:114
How many times are you gonna avoid these question. HADITHER'S NIGHTMARE
MegaMrname 2 months ago
@MegaMrname ok mr shia. i am not. there is not enough room on youtube to explain to your illiterate mind. you have basically no degree what so ever in religious studies and now you're questioning me with things that don't make sense and quotes you misinterpret and analyze to your liking. how do i know you have no religious degrees to qualify you to make decisions? because the arguments you use are irrelevant and not something to debate on.
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi Looks like you are more illiterate than i am. Keep worshipping "scholars". Ignore Quranic facts. You are a true muslim. That's why you are labeled as shia, sunni and whatever. PEACE
MegaMrname 2 months ago
@MegaMrname the label exists because of the tremendous differences rather than the similarities.
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
@hazemalsaadi there are multiple proofs the hadiths you question are true, same with the quraan. Problems arise when knowledg-less people question a whole topic in which they have no background in. Like I said, if you don't know surgery, you won't be questioning surgery, you'd in fact let the real surgeon worry about that topic. same thing for religion. Hadith scholars worry about this topic. With "Illiterate", I simply implied it to hadiths; not generally speaking.
hazemalsaadi 2 months ago
Volume 5, Book 58, Number 268:
Narrated Aisha:
That once Abu Bakr came to her on the day of 'Id-ul-Fitr or 'Id ul Adha while the Prophet was with her and there were two girl singers with her, singing songs of the Ansar about the day of Buath. Abu Bakr said twice. "Musical instrument of Satan!" But the Prophet said, "Leave them Abu Bakr, for every nation has an 'Id (i.e. festival) and this day is our 'Id." - I found this on the net, anyone knows how this all fits together?
keeponsearchin 4 days ago
This guy is so brainwashed it's scary. Music is part of who we are, ignorance towards something so close our heart is so upsetting. Every single person on this plant appreciates music IF they haven't been manipulated into thinking it's hell-worthy D:
hmcg020 6 months ago
Im not really sure what you meant by any of that, and you missed my point completely. Im not a scholar but I am smart enough to know that people do lie and people are not perfect, not even the precious scholars. I do not know what you are talking about, about a rap video about Islam, but I am done debating. I just want people to think for themselves; and that I do not believe everything people tell me. Thats all. Peace brother.
FortnerEntertainment 6 months ago
Some scholars say it is haraam some say it is not.. I am not too concerned with what scholars say. Scholars CAN be wrong too; They are not perfect. I have corrected professors who were wrong in my college classes. If I had not questioned there teachings, and did the research for myself, myself and the entire class would have been misinformed and still believed the wrong information to this day. Always question things; if you do, then you can never be fooled.
FortnerEntertainment 6 months ago
@FortnerEntertainment ok mr researcher.. u reach a scholar status maybe then ill listen to ur questions... its not a joke reaching scholar status u know... much better than making a rap video about islam.... rap was inpsired by the likes of tupac etc etc are they our role models?
adilg89 6 months ago
@MizzzDolll doesnt matter what you beleive... hes the scholar
adilg89 6 months ago
I like listening to Christmas music and Marilyn Manson so I'm going to hell. Oh well have fun in heaven everyone.
Buntzums 6 months ago
@Buntzums .... he says its haraam which means its a sin... which means it will be counted as a bad deed on the day of judgement
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gr8word 7 months ago
Can someone please tell me where in the Quran it is said that music is haraam?
FortnerEntertainment 7 months ago
@FortnerEntertainment it doesnt... however the scholars have said its haraam... soo its haraam its as simple as that...
u dont quesiotn a doctor in his area of expertise... likewise u dont quesiton a scholar in his area of expertise
adilg89 6 months ago
@adilg89 The Quran does not say it is haraam, but scholars do? Yes, I do question the scholars because the scholars are normal men, not prophets. It is dangerous not to question things; that is how people are led astray brother..by putting that much faith into man. How do you think people believe some of the crazy things they do?....because that have that mindset of, "don't question him; he is a scholar". I am not going to live by something just because scholars say to. That is ignorance.
FortnerEntertainment 6 months ago
@FortnerEntertainment do u question the doctor when he gives u medicine? do u go and make ur own medicine?NO... so why question the scholars... who have no personal gain out of 'leading peaple astray'
adilg89 6 months ago
I really feel sorry for any of you who believe this nonsense. Fear of Hell? So this all loving God will send his most "loved" creation to Hell for listening to music? Come on, this is ridiculous. How can any of you in the civilized world believe this medieval crap which uses fear, yes FEAR as its main cause of justification. And the guy doing this video is a hypocrite. He made millions in the music industry? I doubt he gave any of that money away did he after being soo sinful. You only live once
EazyBone5150 7 months ago
First of all we should be polite in our discussion and discourses, weather this guy has donated or not is not my issue. My problem is being fair and reasonable as you said most loving God will burn people because they heard music, please pray for my that' I could continue to be on balanced path, I believe it's not the content rather what you do with.
Thank you
adamsports 7 months ago
@adamsports What is really fair here? The fact that people are so brainwashed by this nonsense, that they waste their lives believing and living life in such a way? Life would be a very dull one without music, yet you have this hypocrite stating the punishment could be an eternity in hell! If God was really all loving universal salvation would be a possibility, but that is not the case in Islam. Islam has no idea how to fit into the 21st century. Im not talking about individual Muslims but Islam
EazyBone5150 7 months ago
@EazyBone5150 weve been put on this earth for on purpose... worship the one true god... im sure u agree..
not to listen to music... muslim has subliminal messages.... it wastes ppelaes times... it also decreases ur concentration whilst doing things...just all negatives
adilg89 6 months ago
I'm not looking for music licence but good sound information, the problem is that person starts talking about music and move in different areas connecting dots, for example i heard in this video that said It's is allowed in Islam to play music such as sheik said daf and he said Prophet (sa) liked that, why because according to the tradition he the Prophet (sa) allowed it but shiek said with lots of restrictions having no bells etc but again that is what speaker is saying and just unbalanced info
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ASAK, How can music be haram when ALLAH (swt) gave it as a revelation to Prophet Dawud in the Zabur (Psalms), where Prophet Dawud's singing voice and ability on the harp were from ALLAH (swt).
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YUSUFALI: And it is your Lord that knoweth best all beings that are in the heavens and on earth: We did bestow on some prophets more (and other) gifts than on others: and We gave to David (the gift of) the Psalms."
Surely a revelation would not come in a fashion that was haram.
Marilynn33 7 months ago
There's no false/errors in the Quran. but you can misunderstand it if you read the transelation, becuase one arabic word means few things, and the btw music is not haram, Nasheeds are not haram, good speech (about peace) is NOT haram, I SWEAR.
but if you listen to like nigger nigger nigger sexy big noob fail fool cheese bighead, something like this, This is not allowed! because it's idle talk, No meaning, away from path of god.
OnyxArrow 7 months ago
many promonent singers musicians in America today worsip satan and openelysaid so
thesolimanz 7 months ago
i m simply unable to understand that why the fck am i able to see comments from my account that i have never posted , sing ,dance , dope , go for war , go for peace , nuke the world , do what ever the fck u all want leave me fkin alone , m sick and tired of these comments from my account that generate a new response for me every day.....
fck u youtube , bloody fix this glitch..!!
mohtashimiqbal 7 months ago
I have to be honest since i stopped listening to music , i feel much better in myself, i used to get alot of negative thoughts which have stopped. Before i stopped listening to it, i knew there was something negative in it, if you search topics such as illuminati and freemason music you will realise the basis for it. even real christians know music is sorcery and satanic. My heart is so calm since listening to quran and shunning music. Islam is the best!!.
aisha76uk 8 months ago
I CANNOT stand music, its the work of the devil. KaonNeutre i pity people like you who can't tell the difference between birds singing and musical instruments!. Birds singing is halal, however listening to filthy music is haram. Since listening to the quran i become annoyed when i listen to music alhumdulillah which is a good sign. May Allah guide us all and destroy the hypocrites, ameen.
aisha76uk 8 months ago
i listen to music but it dont astray away from god im always praying my namaz and allah is alwayz on my mind when im at home and when im out everyday i thank him all that he has given me but when i listening to music it makes me happy and it dont really say in the quran that its not allowed
786mino 8 months ago
damn.. sorry i was given this LINK.. this BAPTIST SCHOOL DROP OUT!! lol
what CRAP
QuranVsHadith 8 months ago
his speech makes me sick, go to hell
tomyy0101 8 months ago
What a pile of crank shaft is that Sir!
music takes you way from God.
Let those superstitious "MOHAMMED" type blow themselves up, so to be next to God.
It makes me mad, to have this superstitions make a note worthy opinion for the Islamic irritant about music.
Were are The Mother Teresa,The Daly Lama,The Gandhi, of Islam,the leader preaching LOVE, Compassion,and Tolerance,of sexual behavior?
Give the link,i really want to see that part of Islam. I want to concentrate attention on the good.
alonsomaldonado 9 months ago
@alonsomaldonado Music takes a person away from God because the beat and the person singing makes your body instantly want to sing and dance along allowing you to want to constantly hear it but then you listen to it so much that you forget religion slowing without realizing it thereby before one dies they dont want to hear Gods words rather to something that made them feel better ,music, here this temporary life an this causes them to go astray from God......I hope this helps :)
DreamingBig106 8 months ago
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@alonsomaldonado if not and you want more information or facts on this topic I can send it to you :)
DreamingBig106 8 months ago 2
@DreamingBig106 Yes please send me more information. I am trying to distinguish were is the line between superstition and an honorable religion. For example please let me know how this music takes me away from god (watch?v=SLY7yI1xV-M)
alonsomaldonado 8 months ago
@alonsomaldonado i did not get the link for that url that you wanted me to see it doesnt send me anywhere and what I can tell you is that Music is Haram but only to an extent like one can not listen to is all the time only certain times like partys or celebration thats what its meant for
DreamingBig106 8 months ago
@alonsomaldonado but another good point is that a man or womans voice when singing becomes more attractive to another person and it creates corruption like a married man wanting to hear JLO rather then his beloved wife. But that is one of the many example I can tell you but I will be sending more info soon :)
DreamingBig106 8 months ago
I'm a Muslim and I like to listen to music , some people said music is forbidden and some people said it's not forbidden. but i'm flowing my heart.
I know when I did something wrong or right .
AnasFaL 9 months ago
@AnasFaL
Apparently you're following your conventions, but unfortunately in Islam it doesn't work that way if "Mohammed PBUH " said it's forbidden then it's forbidden and there is no chance for anyone to make himself a profit claming whatever he wants!
yharara88 9 months ago
@yharara88 But are these hadiths authenticated? And even if they are, did'nt the prophet say that music is fine on special occasions (i.e marriage?) I don't listen to evil, blasphemous trash, and I've seen music help people strengthen their faith. Plus the Quran (the verbatum word of God!) does not prohibit music. So long as it is not against god and does not include lewdness and blasphemy, were is the evil in it?
NightSurgeon09 8 months ago
@NightSurgeon09
The only answer that you could be answered is what is authenticated about Profit Mohammed PBUH: There will be people from my nation who claim zina, silk, lewdness , and music to be permitted calling them with other names.
SHeikh Yusuf Estes already said that the duff is only permitted on marriage occasions, not all the time.
yharara88 8 months ago
@NightSurgeon09
I don't really get why are you insisting that Quran doesn't prohipt music although Quran explicitly say that whatever the Profit orders , you must take, and what ever he prohibits is prohibited.
Hearing you talking that way makes me feel that you aren't a Muslim or you have a problem with understanding how Mohammed is your Profit.
I want you to imagine him PBUH telling you face to facethat music is prohibited, would you ask him,if that was an order or not.
I hope you think more
yharara88 8 months ago
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@AnasFaL
Apparently you're following your conventions, but unfortunately in Islam it doesn't work that way if "Mohammed PBUH " said it's forbidden then it's forbidden and there is no chance for anyone to make himself a profit claming whatever he wants!
yharara88 9 months ago
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nabeelmerchant 10 months ago
Microwaving your food is really bad for your health because microwave ovens emmit radiation as like rediation is emiitted by nuclear reactors, but having a lower radiation signature. This man has no clue what are the complexities in living in the age of dajjal. Microwave your water and give it to your plant it will degenerate at an increasing rate overtime and die. Microwave should be declared haram,if not this haram concept fallible
May Allah guide you with the internal reality of things.
nabeelmerchant 10 months ago
Mashallah. Allahu Akbar -
Anyone that doesn't submit to the will of God will burn in the hellfire. Thats a fact. People have no discipline and self control. Islam is not an Arabic religion, its THE religion for humanity , for the rich, for the poor, and all colors that Allah created. Allah is the only God and Prophet Muhammad (saw) is His last and final messenger. This is also a fact. I love all of you believers who pray and remember Allah as much as you can. Music = Sourcery = Evil= Hellfire
Youngchiza5 10 months ago 2
@Youngchiza5 Manshalah well said! barakalhu fiik
buroali 9 months ago
@Youngchiza5 so submit to your pedophile prophet in an islamic country. you don't belong in the US
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Repent to Allah (God). If not you belong in the hellfire.
Youngchiza5 8 months ago
@Youngchiza5 there is no allah and there is no hellfire. you're a deluded piece of shit who believes in fairy tales. you're wasting your life.
take your stupid pedophile religion and get out of the US. you don't belong here and you aren't wanted here.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 I can't wait until the Day of Judgement. Insha'Allah You will repent one day.
Youngchiza5 8 months ago
@Youngchiza5 give me a date, i'll mark my calendar.
why are you waiting by the way? go kill yourself if you want to die. you won't be missed and the world will be a better place. just don't blow yourself up on a bus like most muslims like you do, leave normal people out of it.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Ok. Allahu Akbar.
Youngchiza5 8 months ago
@Youngchiza5 your god isn't great, since your god doesn't exist.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Wow, seems like you've been studying Islam a bit. If need to know more about it Let me know.
Youngchiza5 8 months ago
@Youngchiza5 like i'd ask some stupid taqiyya muslim if i wanted to know anything about your pedophile religion.
i know plenty, like your whore prophet was a lying terrorist. and there is no allah. get a life.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 Don't say you weren't warned on the day of judgment. And in the grave you'll see that Muhammad (saw) is a true prophet. Time will tell for you.
Youngchiza5 8 months ago
@Youngchiza5 don't say nobody told you that you're a dumb fucking muslim with no common sense, when you die and realize nothing happens. you're going to rot just like anybody else. you aren't getting any virgins.
muhammad was a child fucking terrorist who should have been kicked in the balls for being a pedophile. MOVE TO SAUDI ARABIA. you don't belong here.
now go kill yourself.
karlsmith00 8 months ago
@karlsmith00 I wish i could say Allah loves you but he doesn't . You'll see.
Youngchiza5 8 months ago
The Bible is filled with singing in faith and hymns and... oh, it's just so beautiful. People have always, since the beginning of time, sung not only to give praise and thanks to God, but to feel spiritually healthier and to celebrate wonderful events, etc. A lot of types of music are good for the mind and soul, as they have been since the beginning. Shame on Mohammad for restricting it and filling people with fear of hell for doing something that God meant for us to enjoy. I'm sickened by this.
rosemary7913 10 months ago
@rosemary7913 Music without Instruments or Music with those Instruments that are allowed in Islam. Music that is prohibited is Rock, Metal, Guitar or any other musical instrument. Singing in faith is just like reciting the Holy Quran with proper tarteel. And there are naats that use allowed instruments or no instrument. Sound Effects are created using human voice. This is allowed in Islam. And Regarding Fear of Hell. Islam never says that you will go to hell by listening to prohibited music....
Y3DXGL90 10 months ago
@rosemary7913 What islam says is that if you listen to prohibited Music, then music will take you towards Sin and will make you addicted to it. And Once you are addicted it gets very difficult to get out of it. And this addiction will cause you to do other Sins and gradually increasing the level of your sins. If a person does not repents then a time will come that that person will be filled up with so many Sins, that the person will be led towards Hell. It may take several years but this will ..
Y3DXGL90 10 months ago
@rosemary7913 ...spread like bacteria in heart. Islam warns beforehand about the dangers that lie ahead or the traps of Satan. God has allowed us to enjoy but within the limits that are prescribed by Him.
Y3DXGL90 10 months ago
@Y3DXGL90 LOL that's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. As I said, music in several forms is good for the heart. And I've read a hadith where Mohammad said that the bell is the instrument of Satan! I suppose Christians that use bells to call people to Church are from Satan too? I suppose the concert band in which I play the flute (that I've played for 10 years) that produces beautiful, classical, emotionally moving pieces of music leads to sin? If anything, it leads to spiritual enlightenment.
rosemary7913 10 months ago
@Y3DXGL90 Just because Mohammad didn't like the sound of the bell and was against music himself, doesn't mean everyone else should live repressed lives "in the name of God." Shame on Mohammad for making people believe and become devout to such horrible lies as this.
rosemary7913 10 months ago
@rosemary7913 Well i guess this was too heavy for you. In Islam, things do not immediately become obligatory. For example, if i am addicted to something then Islam allows me to take my time and use my sincerity to get out of that Addiction. because when a person is traped in something, then it takes time to get out of it. So Islam allows us to do that. It may take several years and the time allowed to repent is your whole life. Christians are not from satan at all. do not take things out of ...
Y3DXGL90 10 months ago
@rosemary7913 ...context. Just remember that if you want to study a book. You will start reading that book from the beginning that is the very first chapter, you will not directly jump to chapter 14 else you will be led into a confusion. So study islam from very first chapter, that is the Concept of GOD. And then proceed ahead.
Y3DXGL90 10 months ago
@Y3DXGL90 I've already done that, and either way, forbidding (even restricting) music is ridiculous and sick. And using your addiction example was not very intelligent, as music is not a bad thing. It is an integral part of life to so many people. I thank God that Christianity embraces and encourages music. And then what does Mohammad do? Centuries later, he comes around and tries saying that it leads to sin! If anything, it can keep people from sin, so even saying something like that is sin.
rosemary7913 10 months ago
My scriptures say, use everything is the service of God. If you have music sing the glories of the Lord beautifully by using all the instruments you have. Everything belongs to God so offer it to Him everything beautiful with sincerity. Banning something is not a solution, redirecting it in an appropriate manner is the way.
paricharaka 10 months ago
Thank you!
AmmarDMD 11 months ago
Narrated Abu ‘Amir or Abu Malik Al-Ash’ari:
That he heard the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) saying, “From among my followers there will be some people who will consider zina (fornication/adultery), the wearing of silk [for men], the drinking of alcoholic drinks, and the ""use of musical instruments, as lawful""…” [Bukhari: Book 7: Volume 69: Hadith 494]
shoaibiqbl 11 months ago
@AllThatKnowHow how is that when your so called prophet made it supposedly forbidden?
silentbehn180 11 months ago
No music instruments in Islam? Music is prohibited in Islam???
I know many scientific errors in quran, many things I find morally unacceptable... But prohibiting music is beyond my understanding. If I were christian I would say it comes directly from the devil.
Music is one of the greatest and poetic creation of the human brain... and it is Haram in Islam? Can muslims appreciate the beautiful bird's singing? The soft chant of whales?
I am shocked and disgusted! I pity muslims... deeply.
KaonNeutre 1 year ago 10
@KaonNeutre Did know listen to the video, for you made up your mind before listening? Music is okay in Islam, but not all knid of music i.e. swearing and the iikes are not allowed. What Islam does is make you think about the kind of music you listen to and then chosen. Hope this makes it like.
AllThatKnowHow 1 year ago
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@KaonNeutre Sorry, " Did you listen to the video, or you made up your mind before listening? Music is okay in Islam, but not all knid of music i.e. swearing and the iikes are not allowed. What Islam does is make you think about the kind of music you listen to and then chosen. Hope this makes it like.
AllThatKnowHow 1 year ago
@KaonNeutre Hey um, why does it matter to you? I mean you're not Muslim, so I don't know why you're like, ranting about it.
darkbreeze9009 10 months ago
@KaonNeutre Most definitely do not need your pity. Think about music today,majority of music has lyrics that are corrupt...Lil boys n girls in barely any clothing gyrating and singing about getting high etc...Wht r the Scientific errors you talk about? Are you a Science professor? And who said Music is 1 of our greatest creations? When Allahswt himself has warned that Shaytaan will use our natural disposition towards music to corrupt (music business) and cause us to stray from our true purpose,
MrsTArshad 10 months ago
@MrsTArshad "do not need your pity" I know... It's stronger than me... I feel like that.
"majority of music has lyrics that are corrupt" Yes, there is bad lyrics in some musics. The real way to deal with it is to educate your child to be critic about that music. A proper education is the best natural barrier... much better than prohibition.
"Science professor?" I'm a scientist yes.
"who said Music is 1 of our greatest creations?" Many peoples. Me the first.
KaonNeutre 10 months ago 2
@MrsTArshad "Allahswt himself has warned that Shaytaan will use our natural disposition towards music"
Hum.. no... Actually, Allah never spoken "himself" because everybody would have eared it. It's Muhammad that pretend to have been spoken by Allah. You've choose (or have been taught) to believe muhammad. Not Allah himself. That is a false statement...
KaonNeutre 10 months ago
@KaonNeutre birds r using their voices not guitars and pianos
i am shocked by ur reasoning
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
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@DontBeSleeper "i am shocked by ur reasoning"
Oh yeah? Multiply your feeling by 4209542334 and you will have a glimpse on how shocked I am to see people living in a world modern enough to use a computer, but still believe that music is sorcery. I mean, I can't barely imagine that you are not kidding!!
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Why religious people don’t like beautiful thing, it seem they are afraid of them self by loosing self-control. These god rules are bullshit that coming from human. Why taking information from stupid book like coran and bible when the nature is there to answer to question. Science and objectivity is the best way to evolve out of darkness. From this you will wake up and understand who is stupid to make rules like banish music! Finaly YOU ARE DEEPLY SLEEP
TheVermettov 8 months ago
@TheVermettov hmmm let us see...u do not believe in God cas u can not see ,hear ,touch,smell,taste God??? well tell me,can u : taste,smell,see,hear,touch Time???? but still it is there,isn't it....re consider who is deeply asleep again
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper "taste,smell,see,hear,touch Time?"
We all can feel time on going! We don't need to taste,smell,see,hear,touch things to believe in it. But we must have some clues! You act as if you know something we don'T know... But you are an atheist too. Do you believe in Vishnu? In Zoroastrian?!? A lot of people "feel" them too... but they can listen to music. Why don't you realize how subjective your faith is!?
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre we all have feel that God exists as well, we dont need taste,smell,see,hear,touch to believe in Him. thanks for proving point
okay science proved that earth is old as much...but qur'an never claimed that it is younger? if humans came from evolution then tell me from where did cromagnonian evolved,name the pre specie which evolved INTO cromagnonian
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper "thanks for proving point".
No I'm not... You misread my post. I told you "we" including you and me. I don't feel anything about allah. I don'T feel fear or anything about not believing in what muhammad said. You don't feel guilty about not believing in zoroastrian which is not a "polytheist deity". You are an atheists about Zoroastrian.
Why are you talking about evolution? Why don't you try to prove adam and eve instead? You believe that you don't have to?
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@TheVermettov and speaking of science,science actually never did nor tried to refute existance of God,science only explores things irrelevantly of who is creator of existance..if ur calling urself upon science u should know that much atleast
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper "Science actually never did nor tried to refute existance of God"
It depends on your definition of God... Science PROVE that earth is around 4 billion years old. Science PROVE that living creature are linked by heredity. Science shown many things that is wrong in your "holy" book. The only thing you can do in "reinterpret" the meaning in a twisted manner so the problematic verses will fit modern discoveries. How long will you do that?!?
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre hmmm when was that? which verse did science prove wrong in qur'an? i dont know of any..but i will show u few which science confirmed 21:30 (something similar to theory of big bang) , quran 51:47 about expansion of universe, quran 41:11 about in which form was mattery before forming universe etc etc. and i see u have difficulties understanding terms atheist and polytheist...atheist is one who denies existance of God,but one who believes in many Gods is polytheist
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
if i refuse to believe in polytheistic ''dieities'' such r vishnu that does not make me atheist but antipolytheist which easily can be said ''monotheist''
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
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TheVermettov 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper And according to your reasoning, explain me why polytheist believe is not better than monotheist. I suppose that your argument will not be based on reason and observation.
TheVermettov 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Time can be measured precisely and we also know that speed of light is a limit. So notion of time is a concept resulting from well quantified observations. In a scientific point of view, question of excistence of god cannot be applied because no observation leads to this hypothesis. From your coran, you can only match scientific observations with interpretation of unclear sentences. Sorry, you cannot denied that :)
TheVermettov 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper You don't care about the numerous errors of the quran which obviously comes from a human(s). As an example, in some verses Allah says He created Adam from dust (3:59), from wet clay (38:71), from black burnt clay (aged mud, potter's clay) (15:26), from mud (6:2), from dirt of earth (20:55), out of nothing (19:9, 52:35), (every living creature) from water (24:45).
And there is many more errors... It's not even a well made human lie!!!
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre actually kaon if u knew arabic u would see that those r different translations,pretty laughable
now lets get back to science...name specie from which cromagnonian evolved? and tell me how could ilitrate man know all that which i showed u?
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper If I would speak arabic, I would not be so much more intelligent and acknowledgeable than the so-called scholars (most of the time native arabs) that have translated the quran in a similar way. Your problem is not that the quran is written in arabic, it's that the verses are so fuzzy that you can't interpret them correctly. Moreover, you can't take the literal meaning which should be the real objective unbiased meaning ; in that way, YOU would find quran and hadith unacceptable!!!
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper " name specie from which cromagnonian evolved? "
lol... fish. You have branchia in your fetus development! Did you knew that? If you hinder yourself to learn anything you will feel wise...
"how could ilitrate man know all that which i showed u?"
You didn'T show me anything else than a guy that "subjectively choose" the meaning of very fuzzy verses. How can you even try to interpret those fuzzy verses while there is much mistakes in the quran?!? My guess: you CAN'T be objective.
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Hey DontBeSleeper, I was speaking seriously, if my way to understanding the world through science is false, tell me how, don’t avoid to comment my remark. But please, use rationals arguments that can be used for all religions.
TheVermettov 8 months ago
@TheVermettov 1st, science never did,nor tried to refute existance of God,science only explores nature and consenquences and past irrelevantly if it is created by God or not. seconld is tool for explaining religions,but also can be tool for confirm religions,depending from stances of that religion(if science proves them true or false) . furthermore science itself is attempting to be trutfull but it can be wrong as well.
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
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@DontBeSleeper "Science actually never did nor tried to refute existance of God"
Science PROVE that sperm doesn't come from between rib and back bones (as quran says). It PROVE that living creature are linked by heredity. It show how the wind is the consequence of the sun heating and the rotation of the earth (not your prayer to allah). The only thing you can do is "reinterpret" the quran in a twisted manner so the problematic verses will fit modern discoveries. How long will you do that?!?
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Science do not try to refute god. You are right on that. However, science shows clearly that quran has nothing to do with neither god nor the cause of universe... It is man-made...
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre then check those verses which i showed u how could ilitrate man know that on his own?for example that universe is expanding,that living beings r (mostly) made from water,that earth and sky were one before they got separated(something as big bang theory) etc etc?
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper This verse says that "He separate the earth and the sky". That means Allah (or muhammad) believe the sky is something material separated from the earth. The fact is that the earth was a cloud of atoms (gas and dust) that collapse into the solar system. The "sky" is only the gaseous part of that dust. YOU interpret it the way it please you...
Most of people was illiterate in the time of muhammad. Muhammad has physician, christians and Jews friends and neighbors.
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre no i do not interpret it on my own,please read this verse Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly." 41:11 is this not what u speak of also?
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper "is this not what u speak of also?" no, it's not... Do heaven a part of this world? *sight*
"so which possible science did qur'an addopt from jews or christians?"
Well, quran say that earth is flat too... according to quran, you can reach where the sun sets (18:86) and where it rises (18: 90). But you can't be objective enough to face the truth: the quran is inspired by other holy books (as the bible) and not genuinely revealed by the creator of the universe...
KaonNeutre 7 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Does greeks was inspired by god by predicting atoms? By measuring the size of the earth and the distance moon-earth? You are a fool. Your so-called miracle only come from you twisted interpretation of extremely fuzzy and vague verses while you completely neglect the numerous errors and contradiction in the quran... wake-up buddy!
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre and no personal insults,scientists do not need them.. as for christians and jews and science from their books,bible says that earth is circle,and says that every kingdom on earth can be seen from 1 mountain (that earth is flat)- flat circle,and that was stance of early church for centuries,and people were burnt on stakes for saying opposite..so which possible science did qur'an addopt from jews or christians? as for greeks,qur'an says that every comunity had a warner-prophet
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
once again...''Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was SMOKE...''
so how does that what u said refute qur'an? i'd say it just confirms it more seriously
DontBeSleeper 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Ok, if science cannot be applied to religion, what else can do it, your intuition? If it is your faith in a book, for me it not acceptable arguments. Why we cannot simply accept our ignorance for these fundamental questions. This way is not so bad when we consider that knowledge is some thing that you have to work hard to get it.
TheVermettov 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper Big bang: Science doesn't "confirm" the quran. YOU changed the meaning of the verse to fit it the modern knowledge. This verse says that "He separate the earth and the sky". That means Allah (or muhammad) believe the sky is something material separated from the earth. The fact is that the earth was a cloud of atoms (gas and dust) that collapse into the solar system. The "sky" is only the gaseous part of that dust. YOU interpret it the way it please you...
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
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@DontBeSleeper 41;11 : "Then He directed Himself to the heaven while it was smoke and said to it and to the earth, "Come [into being], willingly or by compulsion." They said, "We have come willingly."
You cannot interpret this vague and fuzzy verse else than subjectively!!!
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@DontBeSleeper The only thing science is not proving false or wrong is that universe has a cause (or a beginning). But that "cause" have nothing to do with the man(men?)-made god of the quran...
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre u think in this time the with dancing girls are halal or good ,,,just think about it then u can judge by ur self ,,, allah guide u ...inshallah
paradisebtq 8 months ago
@paradisebtq What the hell are you saying?!?
KaonNeutre 8 months ago
@KaonNeutre
Islam only disallows musical instruments to be played because that carries you away from Allah. However the duff(one-sided drum) is allowed and women can even sing and play the duff in weddings and during other celebrations like the Eids. Islamic channels use softwares with natural sounds like gushing of the water, the birds chirping, the wind blowing and different natural aspects that allure you towards Allah along with beautiful human voice for islamic songs :)
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@woundedaggression "musical instruments to be played because that carries you away from Allah."
How? and why?
"natural sounds like gushing of the water" A violin is made of wood and metal ropes. Everything is natural. Music is what you choose to do with. Rap and metal haven't the monopoly of music. What about opera? classic symphony? traditional chinese music? New age? etc..
KaonNeutre 7 months ago
@KaonNeutre Musical instruments mean that are designed purposely for music, that is what is haram, strings etc. No matter if they are made from wood or from whatever natural stuff. Even wine is made from fruits that doesn't mean wine is allowed. Natural SOUNDS are permitted. You should know the difference at least please. And I'm not well learnt about music and its genres, so I'm unable to comment about opera and others. However, halal music for praising a girl is also disallowed. Vanity talking
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@KaonNeutre The Muslims all over the world are supposed to recite the Quran in a melodious manner that melts down your heart and moves you spiritually. The Meuzzins are supposed to give out the Azan in the most beautiful fashion so that people are allured to prayers. You can see how Islam turns negligence derived from music like metal, hip hop which insults women and treats them worst than mere objects for pleasure to something really fruitful and pure :)
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@woundedaggression I think music instruments are prohibited in islam because it's a way to make muslims not mix with other tribes. It's a war strategy...
I'm pretty sure you don't even know why music carry you away from allah. The reasons you could find for any music instruments will be applicable to a human singing or a duff. You have been taught to not question yourself about that and about everything else supposedly coming from the creator of the universe.
KaonNeutre 7 months ago
@KaonNeutre Muslims do not refrain from music because of the so called "war strategy" against non-muslims, that would mean we can listen to music anytime except in the time war. That's completely false and your own words. In fact the mushriks of Arabia used to use the duff when marching, and muslims could use the duff, how is that then bein different from them or a war strategy ? I don't even get how not permitting music is even a war strategy ?
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@woundedaggression "I don't even get how not permitting music is even a war strategy ?" It's a way to create a community that separate from "the others". You don'T listen others musics, you don'T mix. I guess pagans of the past were listening musics.
Anyway, you still didn'T answered my question: Why music is haram? Don't tells me "allah said so", it would mean you have no idea...
What is bad about dancing??? What is bad bout having fun? That doesn't mean spend a whole life to fun.
KaonNeutre 7 months ago
@KaonNeutre And I'm sure ! I have experienced how life is different and more peaceful without haram music, I used to rap myself. Not that rapping is haram but music is. And now when I listen to Islamic Nasheeds and praises of Allah and His Prophet(pbuh), that is more soothing and soft music is what I like now. So you see I was never stopped or enforced by someone to not listen to music rather I tried surrendering to Allah's Wisdom WITH my own CHOICE ! And found it as the better half :)My Choice!
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@KaonNeutre Besides, haram music did turn me away from Allah, I didn't feel like praying or even hearing the Qur'an (God-forbid) or getting annoyed at the Azan(Call for prayers) whilst listening to music, so I know how that sways me away from Allah and how its as good as intoxicating yourself, when you lose control over yourself and start dancing and the adrenaline rush perhaps that DOES have affect on your consciousness.
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@woundedaggression " start dancing and the adrenaline rush perhaps that DOES have affect on your consciousness."
Sure, it relax you and take off the excess of stress. It's good for your health. Balance of every sphere of your life is a good way. Not spending your life behind afraid of everything and having no idea why!
KaonNeutre 7 months ago
@KaonNeutre And I thought you had problem with Islam not allowing natural sounds and appreciating its beauty. Now that you know it is halal don't try to find baseless arguments and be convinced over your misconception now cleared. Stop being a typical Islam hater who has to make futile attempts in order to prove Islam wrong ! Islam does appreciate natural beauty of music, wasn't that your only concern ? Now appreciate Islam when it does so, stop this ruthless bias !
woundedaggression 7 months ago
@woundedaggression "to prove Islam wrong ! " Islam doesn't need my help to prove itself wrong.
" stop this ruthless bias" Sorry... I don'T think you can judge if I'm biased or not since you can't evaluate yourself. If you are biased yourself, you will perceive anyone against your faith as biased...
" I'm not well learnt about music and its genres, so I'm unable to comment" You're then unable to explain me (and to your own consciousness) why it is haram...
KaonNeutre 7 months ago