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  • KKK can't get boosted by UU but PSYCHIATRY can get their cheers! The psych journal still shows image of Benjamin Rush who said Blacks skin color was caused by disease! In 1850's Sam Cartwright, psychiatrist said "drapetomania" is "illness" in which slaves want to escape! Today psych says men in skirts have "cross dressing disorder" well that only interferes with the CIVIL RIGHT to wear a style. UU are racists of different color. Psych fascists oppresses in MANY other ways besides clothing.

  • I really enjoyed watching all these videos. As an atheist I don't have any beliefs but I have always thought that if I was to join a church it would be a Unitarian one.

    Thanks again for posting these vids...I hope you post some more

  • Anyone who wants a hardcover copy of 'Unitarianism on the Pacific Coast", great oop hardcover book about the spread of the UU faith to California and beyond! Dirt cheap! Contact monadik@yahoo.com

  • Spiritual anarchy

  • There are many different trends within Unitarian Universalism and I would call these UU denominations for to make finding the title or group easier for new comers: UU Christian fellowship, Pagans, Buddhist fellwship and I worrry that if Unitarian Universalism does not seek converts with tracts of some sorts or public outreach outr religion will Die! Do you agree or disagree?? :(

  • LIES

  • @warmfuzzydeath What?

  • My mind gets clouded and my energy wavers. In this mass of continueous dogma that I get surrounded by. People believe what they are told from others, they also believe the opposite. When do we see beyond; This moment of constant supression, and drain of energy. Faith I contain, but it rarely breathes its' heart before others." It must be ready- made", or even more likely, misrepresented or dismissed. I have for so long wanted to listen to real thoughts, beyond what is expected from them.

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  • I love the concept of open source religion. I am both a Unitarian Universalist and a software engineer, so this short sermon certainly spoke to my sensibilities.

    I know it's possible to take an analogy too far, but I'd like to ask others what they think about the possible disadvantages of an open-source religion. For example, Apple is closed-source and makes superior software and hardware than Linux-based options. Are we missing out on some high quality aspects of a closed-source religion?

  • @canadaduane You've brought up an excellent point. I love Unitarian Universalism, but as a spiritual person, I sometimes miss having that aspect, something that's [more] present in a 'closed-source' religion. The beauty though, is that there's no central head or creed outside the seven principles, so each individual congregation can 'get a feel' for its own and proceed from there. :)

  • Why do universalists bother to preach? According them everyone is eventually going to be saved anyway?

    They may as well save their breath and dig the garden instead.

  • @Indigohue I believe the point is not to preach, but to share. to create an envirmoments where ideas may be freely exchanged, and enhance our lives.the point, as ive heard one member say, to not put people into heaven but put heaven into people

  • @BornAgainLiberal

    Jesus told us to preach the gospel because there is no chance to repent in the afterlife.

  • @Indigohue if i am judged at all.. it will be on my deeds to other human beings and my kindnessand respect as a person. and if a god exists..which i believe it does..it would be egoscentric for it to damn me for not getting on my knees to worship it. I was not made, we were not made to inflate some supernatural beings ego, but to live for each other and take th afterlife as it comes. that is what i believe

  • @BornAgainLiberal The "good works" of unsaved people are "dead", and are as "filthy rags" to God

  • @Indigohue then i am then filithiest of rags. and i will burn for the rest of eternity as a martyr to beileve what i believe. if god damns people in spite of the fact they are good people, i want no part of that god

  • @BornAgainLiberal

    Jesus said "I tell you most solemnly, unless a man is born again he cannot enter the Kingdom of God." We have to repent of our sins and accept Jesus as Lord and Saviour.Until we have the indwelling of the Holy Spirit through faith in Jesus, we are still doing things OUR way and NOT His.We are still wicked in His eyes because our sins have not been washed away.

    We are under Satan's control until we are spiritually reborn through faith in Jesus

  • @Indigohue so your god is a tyrant. and no matter what the tyrant demands of me, i won't comply. he demands my allegience for me to be saved so i won't be saved. ifyour argument isnt about the morality and goodness that religion brings but instead about the punishment i will face in the aftelife, i am willing to accept that punishment and be honest ith my own heart, so u cant win by instilling fear. im not afraid of your god, even if he is real

  • @BornAgainLiberal

    Satan is the tyrant, not God. There are only two masters you can serve on this earth. One is God, the other is Satan. By rejecting God you automatically serve Satan whether you are conscious of the fact or not.

    At the end of the day you have freewill to choose, as God forces no one to come to HIm.

    From personal experience I can say that when you accept Jesus into your life you gain more peace, happiness and understanding than you ever thought possible.

  • @Indigohue You asked why Universalists preach. I don't know if this will help answer the question, but many UUs come from a background of a church that taught "this is the only true church/religion/faith" and having discovered that claim was false for them, they seek out a community where traditions are still meaningful, but doctrine is not suffocating. In my case, I used to be Mormon and no longer believe that to be the only true church. I was happy to discover UUism.

  • LONG LIVE THE UU

  • BEWARE THE DEVIL WILL SET A SNARE BEFORE YOU TO ENSNARE YOU AND LEAD YOU ASTRAY THAT YOU WILL BECOME CONFUSED IN YOUR MIND

  • Hallo, im muslim, and unitarism as natural too. I respect this faith. the true face of Christianity (unitarism of God) that is what really jesus peace be upon him came for. Trinity is rubbish. Go ahead may Allah guide you

  • robin edgar is god

  • Thanks for posting. I was excited to find there are Unitarian churches in Albuquerque, I might be moving there. Though I work night morning services are impossible for me I hope you might have some in the evening.

  • I want to have Hong Kong mfr. mass produce talking doll called The Mental Health Lady push button she screams "CLINICAL MENTAL ILLNESS---MANDATORY COMPULSION---FORCEABLE DISORDER AH HA HA HA HA" and on she raves. You can find The Mental Health Lady at many UU churches as UU church replaced sin concept with mental illness concept and The Clinically Normative Ones are the New Christs who offer to "save" man (from fake disorders like women wearing pants in 1876 & men wearing skirts as men today).

  • Thumbs down shows UU refusal to admit to holding incorrect views. Before giving thumbs down explain how a "mental health professional" gets immunized from "disorders" by having some degree, whereas a REAL doctor makes no claim as to his degree giving him immunity from health issues for ex no dermatologist claims his degree immunizes him from wasp stings. ANSWER THE QUESTION before giving thumbs down. Calling a man in a skirt a cross dresser is same as calling a Black "NIGGER" uu fosters hate!

  • "But God demonstrates His own love toward us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us."

    Romans 5:8

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  • Given the inherently fallible and deceitful nature of man, I would rather find God by myself.

  • @irulehyrule2 How is that working for you?

  • @irulehyrule2 Dont you understand you yourself are a man and that the people surrounding you are the ones shaping and influencing your beleifs and opinions?

  • There are many UUs who agree with you there, and do indeed call their buildings "Fellowship Halls". Most do, in fact.

    But if you look back a bit, the Unitarian Universalist movement was a church movement.

    Attending a UU service is no different from any other church- it just doesn't teach a dogma. It offers guidance from multi-sources.

    We do seek truth, but rather than as a whole group seeking it, we seek it as induviduals. We join together for encouragement.

  • JJ: I find many beautiful verses in the bible but I also find many $%*& in it. Two seemingly innocuous verses I have found to be especially troubling are Genesis 1:28 and what appears to be one of your favorites Matthew 28: 19-20. Christians have used them to despoil and plunder the Earth & murder and maime to bring the heretic to Jesus. Shame on you!

  • johnyjamie: Your spiritual fear-mongering comments don't have any effect on the spirits watching this & other UU videos. UUs reject your simpleminded formulaic musings & reject the exclusionary rulebook you thump. You are free t/follow Jesus but cannot condemn/convert us. We've struggled w/your arguments & found them resoundingly hollow/spiritually lacking. You have no monopoly on the Way/Truth/Light. Jesus is not an idol. Take your semantic sword & pound it into a tolerant plowshare.

  • Open Source Faith. You can be theist, a polytheist, or an atheist. You can build your own personal dogma, theology, or view of the world. That is why I am a Unitarian Universalist, because it gives me the freedom to be faithful to a community and at the same time remain an individual. Customized and ready to serve the community in my own special way.

  • I'm looking for both. I'm looking for a purpose that fits the moral way to live. What is morality and where does it come from? Did man create true morality or does it come from God? And if it comes from God, then what was God's vessel to give us these rules of morality?

    I want to know what happens when I die, and what I must do to be in the best position to reach utopia?

    Reason can answer all of these questions; reason and faith are not mutually exclusive.

  • So see if I'm understanding this correctly.

    Instead of sifting through the religions of antiquity to find out which are fact or myth, I should become universal unitarian and forfeit the existence of any truth at all for the sake of my own individual interpretation of ancient scriptures, history and sociological tradition? But what if I can't read ancient greek, latin or hebrew? How could I truly interpret scriptures then since I'm relying on translations? Please help me understand!

  • I think UUism is more about heartfelt and reasonable values and less about obeying things that people write down.

  • So UUs don't write their values down? I think I just saw a video with your tennents written on it.

    Please correct me if I'm wrong, or comment if you have something to say, but it seems like UUs are just creating their own religion to reconcile their political beliefs. And the religion, by definition, cannot have any truths because any belief can be, or is, truth.

    Therefore, any belief within UU is relative to the person who holds the belief.

    Am I wrong?

  • What exactly are you searching for? I think there are things we can know and things we can't. When it comes to finding the truth, I take the "freethinker's" approach: I don't regard any "authority" other than reason. There are some things -- like the "why" of the universe -- that I don't think CAN be answered in this way, so I personally have little interest in worrying about the question. Are you looking for meaning or for a meaningful way to live?

  • you know, the Bible says man's way leads to death.

    The UU's use the Bible, but don't regard it as the authority for God's word. Why not?

    The Bible is the only book with overwhelming evidence to support it.

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  • The Bible has more evidence to support it's claims than any other so called religious book.

    You choose to ignore it. You choose to reject the way, the truth, and the life. Why?

    What is holding you back from giving your life to Jesus?

    He died for you, you know.

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  • I'll send you proof for Jesus outside the Bible in a personal message because it won't let me put the link here.

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  • thank you1

  • You're a moron.

  • You are right.

  • PeterSmeter: Change "word of God" to "words in the bible"

  • Is that what the Anglicans also said for the Puritans and for the Calvinists some three and a half centuries back and even now.

  • Not at all.

  • Well duh...the bible says alot of things...the people who wrote it are just pushing there own ideas and badmouthing all the alternatives.

    christians try to beat down all the other religions the same way microsoft hopes and trys to turn people away from Mac OS and Linux.

    Personally, i am an atheist and i dont belive in any religion. but i still think the UUs are a good idea..my mother is a UU and i go to the services once in a while with her.

  • So what

  • This "false religion" preaches that you find your own way to happiness and don't bother listening to idiots who try to tell you that you are going to Hell for believing what you think is correct... Nothing wrong with that to me.

    Of course, any religion today, even the fundamentalists, would be blasphemous and false compared to how they existed even a hundred years ago.

    Women wearing PANTS?!? TO THE STAKE!!

    I, and many of my colleagues, feel blessed that progress is not judged by a holy book.

  • shut up.

  • Actually, if you read the Bible, the phrase "Father, Son, and Holy Spirit" doesn't appear at all.

  • "Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit." Matthew 28:19

  • That's not true at all... it's mentioned plenty and plenty of times, especially in reference to the Baptism! Wow...

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  • The trinity doctrine is taught in the Bible...

    it says there's one God

    it says the Father is God

    it says Jesus is God

    it says Holy Spirit is God

    The apostles who God is...

    read 1 Tim 3:16..And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.

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  • who considered it heretical? UNbelievers? of course.

    The doctrine is there plain and simple. The Bible says what it says...

    In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us

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  • YAY FOR U.U.ism

    BOO THE FUNDIES !

  • she speaks about modernism.good

    GOD BLESS ALL!

  • Openairpreacher is THE classic example of the twisted, hateful, dispicable and dictatorial demagogue whose demented intolerant rabid foaming at the mouth is characteristic of every extreme monopolistic fundamentalist of every religious persuasion whose argument is rooted in fear and terror. His primordial sentiment is one of blunt force trauma to the reasonable and rational mind of man.

  • LMAO...daaaaaaaaaaaaaaaamn! Well stated, jereuter.

  • I have no idea what openairpreacher said because his comments are not showing up, but after this statement you make, I'm definitely curious.

    Are you UU?

    Or do you believe what the Bible says?

    Have you received Jesus as your Lord and Savior?

    Do you have assurance that if you died today, you live forever with Jesus?

  • Openairpreacher - it saddens me that you put homosexuals and spiritualists in the group with child molesters and murders - everything you say opposes this beautiful religion - I can understand you not liking it - but my mother always said, if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all!

  • nice one, toaorp. it is also written: judge not lest you be judged.  knowing the flaws we all have, why not rather focus on our neighbor's positive side than the negative 2 uproot all cause of hostility and hate?

  • openairpreacher, Wow, you know Jesus? Yeah, Jesus Martinez just got done pimping my car. He does like the salsa, but hell fire is too hot for me.

  • how can someone who claims to live through a faith of love with love, show no love at all?

  • Islam does not believe Jesus is the messiah

    wake up!

  • where do you get your info from ?

    islam teaches jesus is THE messiah and messenger and prophet of god and he was born of virgin marry

    so now you know what we believe about jesus son of marry.

  • beliefs will differ from person to person. i know a person who calls herself a 'supermarket Catholic'. she only takes what she likes.

    tradionally. Mohammad was the prophet in Islam.

  • Its amazing how much your version of Christianity sounds like a fundamentalist version of Islam too.

    I accept that this is what you believe, but I feel differently. I am a good person, I don't engage in any of those sinful activities. If my one sin is not believing in God that way the Bible says, then how is it just for me to go to hell? Because I don't see it as a literal thing...which is the most logical answer.

    I love God and Jesus too! I just understand him differently.

    Is that sin?

  • Islam has no payment for sin.

    the crime of sin must be paid..

  • Yes- but you're looking at a minor difference, and not at what makes you similar.

    For example- Islam believes in the Second Coming of Jesus, and that God provided a saviour. When we focus on what divides us, we never get to know what unites us.

    This is why I choose unitarian Universalism. It does just that.

  • "When we focus on what divides us, we never get to know what unites us". So succinctly perfect.

    I'm fascinated by UU. As someone who was raised protestant and spent as a bitter atheist, I've been looking for something like this. I need to do more research and visit some congregations, but at a glance I love it.

  • I hope all the best for your search. People need people, and ultimately, thats what UU recognises.

  • how do you know most people will go hell are you god?

    let me remind you about god attribute

    1-the forgiving

    2-the loving

    3- the helping

    and the list go on

    peace

  • Um....... You left out a few.

  • Being such a geek and aligning myself with UUism, I'm so appreciative of Rev. Christine Robinson's sermon. Usually Tech doesn't mix with Faith. Here she's beautifully held up a mirror to important technology stories to reflect a similar story as it relates to faith and UUism.

  • I really appreciate what is done at this church. It defines my beliefs and I didnt even know it. I call myself a spiritualist; however, in a sense, we are very much the same thing. I customize my own belief system because i feel differently than those around me. I am nothing like my parents in their Christian beliefs, which i might add has shunned me from them, and i will never follow their faith. I am just glad there are supportive people like you out there.

    Thanks.

  • I believe a broad mind is a good thing, but to be so open-minded that you refuse to stand for anything is not. It is not possible to be all-embracing of religious worldviews which stand in direct contradiction of one another. Most belief systems do not "impose" on the freedom of their adherents -- they are an expression of that freedom. And I think it is unfair to equate orthodox belief with intolerant, overzealous dogmatism.

    -- a trinitarian universalist.

  • UUs stand for a lot of things, they just don't have a religious creed, orthodoxy nor dogma. This is not to suggest that you do in contrast, but to point out the interfaith and religious sympathy goals of UUism and UUs in particular. It's about finding religious common ground in order to come together as a community for the common good and respect and dialog about differences.

  • We do stand for something-

    The inherent worth and dignity of every person;

    Justice, equity and compassion in human relations;

    Acceptance of one another and encouragement to spiritual growth in our congregations;

    A free and responsible search for truth and meaning;

  • The right of conscience and the use of the democratic process within our congregations and in society at large;

    The goal of world community with peace, liberty and justice for all;

    Respect for the interdependent web of all existence of which we are a part."

  • Lovely - thank you. I'm one of the YouTube Atheists but I'm also a Unitarian. I've always felt welcome by the Unitarians. I've always learned something there.

  • And just an added note. Everything that Rev. Robinson said makes perfect sense to someone with an open mind..which I've gained past month. I take back everything I said a month ago.

  • UU is a big change from many traditional religions. Lots of people either love it or hate it. What changed your mind?

  • i guess i just opened my eyes to a bigger picture, and i've learned i need to respect other's opinions and beliefs. :]

  • I just wanted to leave a comment apologizing to everyone on this page and UU. last month i posted a comment about UU and all kinds of rude comments, and since then I've changed my opinion on UU. I respect all of you and your religion and I just wanted to say I'm very very sorry for the things that I have said. The worst thing about Christians, is that we are hypocrites..and I'm more than ashamed for being one. I don't expect you to, but I hope you will forgive me.

  • @captivateddawn Jesus said this:

    Mark 8:38

    If anyone is ashamed of me and my words in this adulterous and sinful generation, the Son of Man will be ashamed of him when he comes in his Father's glory with the holy angels."

  • @captivateddawn May God richly bless and keep you.

  • OK, you win. Your understanding of God is 100 percent correct. You see it so clearly. I was so confused, thinking that religion was a human inquiry into the mystery of God, which everyone is entitled to do in his or her own way. I was wrong to try to think for myself. Forgive me.

  • No, this is what religion should be. Binding people together in human wisdom and spirituality, instead of segregating them like tribes.

  • Well said, JemyM...you hit the nail right on the coffin!!

  • Really!? 3 of the first 6 presidents of the u.s.a. were unitarians - ben franklin & abe lincoln too... harriet tubman and susan b. anthony hepled motivate the feminist/ women's right movement...when MLK marched on washington for his "I HAVE A DREAM SPEECH", there were more uu church participants on hand than that of christian faith. Shall I go on... or did chatholic school brainwash you too much? Never mind, just go away and follow your nazi pope and your dumber than forrest gump christian prez.

  • By the way dawn, there ARE:

    -christian uu's

    -buddhist uu's

    -jewish uu's

    -taoist uu's

    -hindu uu's

    -atheist/agnostic/humanists uu's

    -wiccan (witches) uu's

    By the way, if you want to find a religion that stole from other faiths, try looking at christianity/ islam first. you can also give them credit for slavery, most wars, opression of women,censorship....shall I go on!?

  • Anastasis. That was comical!

    If only you could recognize that much of what you just wrote, applies to whatever faith you follow. All religious "cults" are strange to outsiders. It's a shame you can't recognize that about your own beliefs. One doesn't have to be bound by "rules and rituals" to be spiritual. Society has enough rules and rituals to adhere to on a daily basis. I'm glad that my faith in UU doesn't have anything to do with your incorrect interpretations.

  • You should think before you rant. UU's are anything but lazy or stupid. They are extremely well-educated and well-read. They think for themselves, demanding evidence and relevance, rather than swallowing whatever load of nonsense some "real" religion is dishing out. A cult? Just the opposite. A church full of free-thinking skeptics, smart, fun, energetic and full of wisdom.

  • I think Heavy intellectualism is more beneficial to the world than heavy emotionalism.

  • I love this sermon. What a creative, wonderful way to look at religious freedom.  How right on the mark. It prompted me to look up the UU minister's web site. She has lots of other sermons on line, and each is better than the last.

  • weird

  • =]...little by little i'm becoming so interested in this faith.

  • Wonderful!

  • Who says that science can't inform religion? Excellent sermon!

  • So very cool! A wonderful reminder that altruism still exists.

  • What a cool conncetion between UUism and HTML!

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