Писмо од Гоце Делчев до Никола Малешевски од 1899 г., во кое се изjаснува како Бугарин: Действително жалко е, но що можемъ да правимъ, когато си сме българи и всички страдаме отъ една обща болѣсть! (Текст.)(македонски: Навистина е жално, но што можеме да направиме кога сме Бугари и сите страдаме од една иста болест!)
Why the "macedonians" have invented the Cyrilic ABC in 9th century, if they have already had an alphabet (as per this video, 4th century). Or you have two alphabets!
AND; MONARCHY ...of Bavarian and Danish origin. FIRST HEAD OF STATE 'Ioannis Kapodistrias'...real name Giovanni Capo d'Istria (an Italian), of Venetian nobility residing in Corfu. FIRST PRIME MINISTER Josef Ludwig von Armansperg (a German), president of Otto's Privy Council. CURRENT PRIME MINISTER Kostas Karamanlis (an ethnic Vlach from Asia Minor). LEGAL SYSTEM Georg Ludwig von Maurer (a German), devised the modern Greek penal code and civil procedure.
Blue, white colours and stripes (of Bavarian origin), and the cross (of Danish origin)...chosen to honor the fact that the modern Greek Royal family is...of Bavarian and Danish origin..
Zorba's dance...created in 1964 by Mexican American actor Anthony Quinn (Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca) 'Zorba the Greek' intoxicated attempting to dance
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...
..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these 'radical Slavic factions' decided TO LIVE WITH THEIR MYTHS AND LIES FOR THE CONSTANT AMUSEMENT OF THE REST OF THE WORLD!"
("Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)
Poor FYROMians, heavy propaganda victims, history rappers, INTERNATIONAL JOKE!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and
Read below and for your own good try to learn, FYROMians, if there is some part of your brain not damaged from the heavy propaganda that your governments feed you in order to distract you from your real problems, meaning prostitution and alcoholism! Other ways just be pathetic and swear again and again because that's the only thing you can do best, since you are jealous and hate Greece and Greeks because deeply you know very well that, since ancient times, MACEDONIAN, THEREFORE GREEK!!!
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BCE to 454 BCE:
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Greece change her freedom for slavery."
(From the speech of Alexander I of Macedon when he was admitted to the Olympic games, Herodotus, "Histories", 9.45)
Alexander the Great, king of Macedon, 356 BCE - 323 BCE:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 14, 4)
Eugene N. Borza, American historian, expert on Macedon:
"Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and 'Macedonians', cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émigrés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity." ...
..."The twentieth-century development of a "Macedonian" ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the "Macedonians", who have had no history, need one." ...
..."They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom, which has borne the Macedonian name as a region ever since and was called "Macedonia" for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language now recognized by most linguists outside Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece as a south Slavic language separate from Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, and Bulgarian." ...
..."Their own so-called "Macedonian" ethnicity had evolved for more than a century, and thus it seemed natural and appropriate for them to call the new nation "Macedonia" and to attempt to provide some cultural references to bolster ethnic survival. " ("Macedonia Redux", in "The Eye Expanded: life and the arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity", ed. Frances B Tichener & Richard F. Moorton, University of California Press, 1999)
now about the fascistic american phrase macedonia to macedonians yeah i know that great powers always want to divide the nations and the people they like to spread hates betweem them in order to make new smaller states that can be controled as they like.this is the meaning of your"macedonia to macedonians"
it is well known in christianity "the letter of saint paul to corinthians"corinthos is a greek city and the people leaving there were ethnic greeks but they could also called korinthians.there are many many examples.also the people of n.epirus we call them northern epirutes but their ethnicity is either greek or albanian
during ottoman empire and balkan wars macedonia was a term to describe a geographical region that was inhabited by ethnic greeks bulgarians turks and jews.all these people of macedonia could easily be called macedonians as like the greeks of crete can be called cretans.
Krste Misirkov, philologist and publicist, one of the founders of the "Macedonian" nation, considered a national hero in FYROM:
"We are more Bulgarian than those in Bulgaria."
"We speak a Bulgarian language".
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
("On the Macedonian Matters" - "За Македонцките Работи", Sofia 1903)
Redrougegirl you are also a midle aged madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with unemployed victims like boban is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek territory .
The shown map is from his book Macedonia — ethnography and statistics, published in Sofia in 1900, only with THE LEGEND CUT OUT. In the original the areas, shown as pink in the video, clearly represent BULGARIAN CHRISTIANS and this can be easily verified:
Athenian" Chares with 2,000 of Persian soldiers fighting against Alexander's Macedonians. Another example of Greeks fighting against Macedonia. If this was a war of revenge on Persia, Greeks have no business fighting with Persians against the Macedonians. The conclusion still remains the same: There was no Greek army with Alexander, and there was no Greek conquest.
On min 01:23 the dokument say in Bg language :Book for learning 3 languages: Sloveno-Bulgarian,Greek and Turkish. On min 01:35 in Greek :quadrolengual-Greek,Bulgarian,Vlashian,Albanian.
On min 02:03 they just cut the word Bulgarian -Folk songs. Next doks cant be readed?Why?
This is evidences collected from around the world.Or are we makeing up again?Once u hellens realize that your history books are fake,you will know that greeks have nothing to do with Macedonians!So stop stealing history or even trying to do so becouse we aint giving up...MACEDONIA FOREVER
IS Philips grave fake. Are the Ancient Macedonian Coins with Greek writing on the fake. Can you produce one piece of physical evidence supporting your claim
Your evidence is so week. You have nothing of ancient times to prove your assumptions. But the Greeks do. Coins and Philips grave with Greek writing on it. You have modern propangandist who are trying to sell books by re writing history. You slavs are theives!
The invention of "Macedonia" is only to protect the occupied teritories from 1913.
Before "macedonia" was called n.greece but after 1988 suddenly the name somehow switched into "macedonia" and everything was renamed in macedonia, you made history for 10days.
The grave is not fake but it is not found in greek but on Macedonian soil.
The grave does not proves anything. also it is not definite that that is actually phillips grave!
What are you smoking? It proves everything and yes it is Philips grave--it says so. By the way his wifes name was Olympia! Did you know that Macedonians particpated in the Olympic Games. Oh, by the way only Greeks were alowed to participate. More proof. Macedonia is Greek. You are Slavs we don't dispute your existance. We do dispute you stealing our history our names and symbols.
You greek fool. You heard something but not all the way, the macedonians were not allowed to participate in the games because they were as demostenes said "barbaric" but after Alexander the I helped them in their war against Persia they were allowed to participate, so thats how he got his nick name Phileen that means greeklover, and if i am a greek why would you call me a greeklover?
There are no Macedonians in greece they came there from asia all your government knows that!you know it too!
Sorry Nice Try. You just suppling Skopian text book propaganda. All the world knows that Macedonians are Greek. Even you former President said it best---We are Slavs we have nothing to do with Alexander and Ancient Macedonia. We came here in the 6th Century. Now come on---if one of you own people admits its why are you blind not to accept it. Macedonia is GREEK---Live with it and try to create your own identity and history.
Ако наистина имаш някакво доказателство за използването на определението Македонец като ЕТНИЧЕСКО, а не РЕГИОНАЛНО понятие покажи документите в близък план и пълен контекст.
Но предполагам няма как да го направиш, понеже имаш достъп или до добре подбрани откъси от тях или добре фалшифицирани варианти, които минават в Македония за ОРИГИНАЛИ, но нигога не биха минали пред една международна научна експертиза:)
Vasil Kanchov was was a Bulgarian geographer, ethnographer and politician, born in the Bulgarian town Vratsa in 26 July 1862. He was a Bulgarian teacher, a headmaster of Bulgarian Men's High School of Thessaloniki (18921893), а chief school inspector of the Bulgarian schools in Macedonia. After 1898 Kanchov returned to Bulgaria and went into politics. In the beginning of 1902 he became an educational minister of Bulgaria.
NOONE works against Macedonia, because we all are children of Macedonia and we love Macedonia. We are against falsification of the history made by so called pseudo yugo firom scientist who made his own people looke like zombie. Awake and stand up brothers from Vardar Macedonia.
These slavobastards are so fucked up with propaganda they look for people ignorance or even uneducated people to state their claim.
Go visit........ " Macedonia Evidence "
Then go slavofuck yourselves.
Yugoslav retards from skopia.
nmt1969 11 months ago
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Писмо од Гоце Делчев до Никола Малешевски од 1899 г., во кое се изjаснува како Бугарин: Действително жалко е, но що можемъ да правимъ, когато си сме българи и всички страдаме отъ една обща болѣсть! (Текст.)(македонски: Навистина е жално, но што можеме да направиме кога сме Бугари и сите страдаме од една иста болест!)
DSetekh 1 year ago
@Mr Balkania From where do you take these statistics? From your ass? Well nobody wants to see your ass 'couse it stiks just like you stink.
nitroflesh 1 year ago
Why the "macedonians" have invented the Cyrilic ABC in 9th century, if they have already had an alphabet (as per this video, 4th century). Or you have two alphabets!
Perigali1 2 years ago
52% Greek Macedonia
38% Slavomacedonia
8% Bulgaromacedonia
2% Albanianmacedonia
MrBalkania 2 years ago
We have Slavomakedonian´s
We have GreekMacedonian´s
Both exist´s in the modern times.
But the slavomacedonian´s they dont have any similar connect with the ancient macedonians to do.
MrBalkania 2 years ago
you speak bulgarian you write cyrilic and you are slavs!!!
you have no relation to us!!!we macedonians are a greek tribe!!
anonymosoellin 2 years ago
Macedonians were here!
Macedonians are here!
Macedonians will always be here!
Macedonia for the Macedonians
lana223344 2 years ago
@ Macedonia1913. I totaly agree , here's some facts;
GREECE: VALKANIKO TSIRKO SPANION BREEDS
Karolos Papoulias: Genuine child of the Albanian Chameria
Andreas Papandreou: Evraio-Polish-US-Bulgarian-Greek
Prokopis Pavlopoulos: Even Roma are ministers
blazingmaco 2 years ago
blazingmaco 2 years ago
AND;
NATIONAL FLAG
Blue, white colours and stripes (of Bavarian origin), and the cross (of Danish origin)...chosen to honor the fact that the modern Greek Royal family is...of Bavarian and Danish origin..
NATIONAL DRESS
The Fustanella (Albanian).
NATIONAL MUSIC
Rembetiko - Rembetiku (Turkish), Anatolian peasant music.
NATIONAL DANCE
Zorba's dance...created in 1964 by Mexican American actor Anthony Quinn (Antonio Rodolfo Quinn Oaxaca) 'Zorba the Greek' intoxicated attempting to dance
blazingmaco 2 years ago
blazingmaco 2 years ago
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1.
T.J. Winnifrith, British scholar:
"Macedonia was also an attempt at a multicultural society. Here the fragments are just about holding together, although the cement that binds them is an unreliable mixture of propaganda and myth. The 'Macedonian' language has been created, some rather misty history involving Tsar Samuel, probably a Bulgarian, and Alexander the Great, almost certainly a Greek, has been invented, and the name Macedonia has been adopted." ...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
2.
..."Do we destroy these myths or live with them? Apparently these 'radical Slavic factions' decided TO LIVE WITH THEIR MYTHS AND LIES FOR THE CONSTANT AMUSEMENT OF THE REST OF THE WORLD!"
("Shattered Eagles, Balkan Fragments", Duckworth, 1995)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Poor FYROMians, heavy propaganda victims, history rappers, INTERNATIONAL JOKE!!! Learn to be proud of your SLAVIC origin and STOP CLAIMING THAT YOU ARE MACEDONIANS!!! You had enough brainwashing, time to face the truth!! You are SLAVS and you speak a SLAVIC LANGUAGE originated from BULGARIAN but SERBIANIZED, so you can't be Macedonians, since TRUE MACEDONIANS WERE AND ARE GREEK PEOPLE, speaking GREEK SINCE ANCIENT TIMES!!! Wake up; you are fooling yourselves and
THE WORLD IS LAUGHING AT YOU!!!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
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Read below and for your own good try to learn, FYROMians, if there is some part of your brain not damaged from the heavy propaganda that your governments feed you in order to distract you from your real problems, meaning prostitution and alcoholism! Other ways just be pathetic and swear again and again because that's the only thing you can do best, since you are jealous and hate Greece and Greeks because deeply you know very well that, since ancient times, MACEDONIAN, THEREFORE GREEK!!!
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Alexander I of Macedon, king of Macedon from 498 BCE to 454 BCE:
"Men of Athens... In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all Greece; I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not willingly see Greece change her freedom for slavery."
(From the speech of Alexander I of Macedon when he was admitted to the Olympic games, Herodotus, "Histories", 9.45)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Alexander the Great, king of Macedon, 356 BCE - 323 BCE:
"Your ancestors came to Macedonia and the rest of Greece and did us great harm, though we had done them no prior injury. I have been appointed leader of the Greeks, and wanting to punish the Persians I have come to Asia, which I took from you..."
(Alexander's letter to Persian king Darius in response to a truce plea, as quoted in "Anabasis Alexandri" by Roman historian Arrian, Book II, 14, 4)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
1.
Eugene N. Borza, American historian, expert on Macedon:
"Modern Slavs, both Bulgarians and 'Macedonians', cannot establish a link with antiquity, as the Slavs entered the Balkans centuries after the demise of the ancient Macedonian kingdom. Only the most radical Slavic factions—mostly émigrés in the United States, Canada, and Australia—even attempt to establish a connection to antiquity." ...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
2.
..."The twentieth-century development of a "Macedonian" ethnicity, and its recent evolution into independent statehood following the collapse of the Yugoslav state in 1991, has followed a rocky road. In order to survive the vicissitudes of Balkan history and politics, the "Macedonians", who have had no history, need one." ...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
3.
..."They reside in a territory once part of a famous ancient kingdom, which has borne the Macedonian name as a region ever since and was called "Macedonia" for nearly half a century as part of Yugoslavia. And they speak a language now recognized by most linguists outside Bulgaria, Serbia, and Greece as a south Slavic language separate from Slovenian, Serbo-Croatian, and Bulgarian." ...
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
4.
..."Their own so-called "Macedonian" ethnicity had evolved for more than a century, and thus it seemed natural and appropriate for them to call the new nation "Macedonia" and to attempt to provide some cultural references to bolster ethnic survival. " ("Macedonia Redux", in "The Eye Expanded: life and the arts in Greco-Roman Antiquity", ed. Frances B Tichener & Richard F. Moorton, University of California Press, 1999)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
now about the fascistic american phrase macedonia to macedonians yeah i know that great powers always want to divide the nations and the people they like to spread hates betweem them in order to make new smaller states that can be controled as they like.this is the meaning of your"macedonia to macedonians"
oooACHAIANooo 2 years ago
it is well known in christianity "the letter of saint paul to corinthians"corinthos is a greek city and the people leaving there were ethnic greeks but they could also called korinthians.there are many many examples.also the people of n.epirus we call them northern epirutes but their ethnicity is either greek or albanian
oooACHAIANooo 2 years ago
during ottoman empire and balkan wars macedonia was a term to describe a geographical region that was inhabited by ethnic greeks bulgarians turks and jews.all these people of macedonia could easily be called macedonians as like the greeks of crete can be called cretans.
oooACHAIANooo 2 years ago
"Evidence of Macedonian" my ass!!
Krste Misirkov, philologist and publicist, one of the founders of the "Macedonian" nation, considered a national hero in FYROM:
"We are more Bulgarian than those in Bulgaria."
"We speak a Bulgarian language".
"And, anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?"
("On the Macedonian Matters" - "За Македонцките Работи", Sofia 1903)
Macedonia1913 2 years ago
Redrougegirl you are also a midle aged madam that needs to get a real job , spamming the net against Greece for 20 cent commision per post with unemployed victims like boban is not one , , try collecting roadkill in skopje instead for 30 cent a piece , its cleaner than what you do now and it will give you an idea of the bright future you persue by claiming Greek territory .
noaudito 2 years ago
The shown map is from his book Macedonia — ethnography and statistics, published in Sofia in 1900, only with THE LEGEND CUT OUT. In the original the areas, shown as pink in the video, clearly represent BULGARIAN CHRISTIANS and this can be easily verified:
fingercutter 3 years ago
The shown map is from his book Macedonia — ethnography and statistics, published in Sofia in 1900, only with THE LEGEND CUT OUT.
fingercutter 3 years ago
Athenian" Chares with 2,000 of Persian soldiers fighting against Alexander's Macedonians. Another example of Greeks fighting against Macedonia. If this was a war of revenge on Persia, Greeks have no business fighting with Persians against the Macedonians. The conclusion still remains the same: There was no Greek army with Alexander, and there was no Greek conquest.
momcemk 3 years ago
Откога БЪЛГАРИ МРАЗЯТ БЪЛГАРИ?
Viketsr 3 years ago
On min 01:23 the dokument say in Bg language :Book for learning 3 languages: Sloveno-Bulgarian,Greek and Turkish. On min 01:35 in Greek :quadrolengual-Greek,Bulgarian,Vlashian,Albanian.
On min 02:03 they just cut the word Bulgarian -Folk songs. Next doks cant be readed?Why?
On min 07:34 on line 8th can be read Bulgarian...
Playboytaxi 3 years ago 2
This is evidences collected from around the world.Or are we makeing up again?Once u hellens realize that your history books are fake,you will know that greeks have nothing to do with Macedonians!So stop stealing history or even trying to do so becouse we aint giving up...MACEDONIA FOREVER
DzidzoMKD 3 years ago
IS Philips grave fake. Are the Ancient Macedonian Coins with Greek writing on the fake. Can you produce one piece of physical evidence supporting your claim
skiros24 3 years ago
The grave was found on Macedonian soil(kutles) not on greek!
There are many different types of coins some are made in greek some are not, the point is that it might have depended who made them.
It is well known that the ancient macedonian langugage was different from the greek one!
macedonian 3 years ago
Your evidence is so week. You have nothing of ancient times to prove your assumptions. But the Greeks do. Coins and Philips grave with Greek writing on it. You have modern propangandist who are trying to sell books by re writing history. You slavs are theives!
skiros24 3 years ago
u greeks are idiots.
The invention of "Macedonia" is only to protect the occupied teritories from 1913.
Before "macedonia" was called n.greece but after 1988 suddenly the name somehow switched into "macedonia" and everything was renamed in macedonia, you made history for 10days.
The grave is not fake but it is not found in greek but on Macedonian soil.
The grave does not proves anything. also it is not definite that that is actually phillips grave!
macedonian 3 years ago
What are you smoking? It proves everything and yes it is Philips grave--it says so. By the way his wifes name was Olympia! Did you know that Macedonians particpated in the Olympic Games. Oh, by the way only Greeks were alowed to participate. More proof. Macedonia is Greek. You are Slavs we don't dispute your existance. We do dispute you stealing our history our names and symbols.
skiros24 3 years ago
You greek fool. You heard something but not all the way, the macedonians were not allowed to participate in the games because they were as demostenes said "barbaric" but after Alexander the I helped them in their war against Persia they were allowed to participate, so thats how he got his nick name Phileen that means greeklover, and if i am a greek why would you call me a greeklover?
There are no Macedonians in greece they came there from asia all your government knows that!you know it too!
macedonian 3 years ago
Sorry Nice Try. You just suppling Skopian text book propaganda. All the world knows that Macedonians are Greek. Even you former President said it best---We are Slavs we have nothing to do with Alexander and Ancient Macedonia. We came here in the 6th Century. Now come on---if one of you own people admits its why are you blind not to accept it. Macedonia is GREEK---Live with it and try to create your own identity and history.
skiros24 3 years ago
хахахахаха
етническа карта на македония без легенда и "автентични документи" снимани от половин метър разстояние:))))))
Защо си губите времето с безсмислени глупости бе хора?
icemannn187 3 years ago
Ако наистина имаш някакво доказателство за използването на определението Македонец като ЕТНИЧЕСКО, а не РЕГИОНАЛНО понятие покажи документите в близък план и пълен контекст.
:))))))
icemannn187 3 years ago
Но предполагам няма как да го направиш, понеже имаш достъп или до добре подбрани откъси от тях или добре фалшифицирани варианти, които минават в Македония за ОРИГИНАЛИ, но нигога не биха минали пред една международна научна експертиза:)
icemannn187 3 years ago
The ethnographic map of the region of Macedonia was created(as the video says)by Vasil Kynchov.
He was was a Bulgarian geographer, ethnographer and politician, born in the Bulgarian town Vratsa in 26 July 1862.
icemannn187 3 years ago
Vasil Kanchov was was a Bulgarian geographer, ethnographer and politician, born in the Bulgarian town Vratsa in 26 July 1862. He was a Bulgarian teacher, a headmaster of Bulgarian Men's High School of Thessaloniki (18921893), а chief school inspector of the Bulgarian schools in Macedonia. After 1898 Kanchov returned to Bulgaria and went into politics. In the beginning of 1902 he became an educational minister of Bulgaria.
icemannn187 3 years ago 2
Think logic. we were here when Asparuh brought you here so how the heck can we be bulgarians?The only way is that you can be Macedonians!
And do not deny evidence, because you are the ones who are masters of falsification
macedonian 3 years ago
NOONE works against Macedonia, because we all are children of Macedonia and we love Macedonia. We are against falsification of the history made by so called pseudo yugo firom scientist who made his own people looke like zombie. Awake and stand up brothers from Vardar Macedonia.
VMOPO 3 years ago
Smesni ste,
nemate istorija
nemate tradicija
nemate identichnost
samo kradete istorija
TodorAleksandrov 3 years ago
Samo taka napred!!!
Isprati go na bajganite!!!
Neka se nervirat mameto nivno!!!!
Makedonija pred se!!!
Sarafot 3 years ago
Macedonian till i die
Macedonia Forever !
acohipmk 3 years ago
bravo
Macedonia Forever
InternetMR 3 years ago