As much as hate to admit it, this shows that cheap labor gets things done. That said I think the Chinese are already having to pay more for labor. Some of the power tools at a certain import store I noticed are now from India not China. Hummm....
Look people, you can't impose U.S. legality and Capitalist ideas for China. During the industrial Revolution, all U.S. companies exploited the peasent workers next to nothing. People such as Rockefellar, J.P. Morgan and hosts of other top executives had slaves at their disposal. These ideas came from Rome which came from Egypt. For crying out loud, the chinese came to the U.S. only to find work putting dynamite into Rocks and blowing up earth to build the railway system.
From the looks of the tool shop, with molds on the floor, personal without eye protection, working on the molds with regular clothing, parts scattered on the tables, the looks of the molding machines, i would not want products from this in my factory! Portuguese molds are still the bests I've seen, but its only a matter of time the chinese pick up!
moraine park community college in wisconsin is training toolmakers. it doesn't have to be a dying art. it is because america regulated and taxed its way out of competition. not saying we should burn the safety glasses, but stupid regs made to destroy our manufacturing base have worked too well. can it be done right, cost effective and safe? yes. can china do it? dont see how.
Are you saying that apple doesn't use chinese manufacturing? the vast majority of apple products are manufactured by foxconn. china's largest electronics manufacturer.
The mold will not close until she closes the door though. That's where the real danger is. I suspect the worker knows from experience how hot the mold can get and doesn't try to get too close.
the worlds best toolmakers are british. unfortunately, toolmakers in britain are valued at about the same price as shelf stackers. to learn to mill , turn ,cylindrical grind , surface grind, screwcut, benchfit, polish , hydraulics, tooling design, side core ,split line etc takes YEARS to learn. to put a tin of beans on a shelf takes ten seconds to learn. both jobs have the same values in the uk.
Thats Can't compete and in the comment before its spelt Healthy.
We Can't compete with people on $10 a day simply because we have a higher cost of living....food mortgage/rent etc
One day there will be a backlash over all this and unemployment is already rising in China as we order less. Because we have got less money due to unemployment and hard times.
Too bad that one visit to china to check on your project already discounts any cost savings from using a US firm. I am not saying that you should use the U.S., but all costs need to be measured not just the cost of the mold and part.
Sad to say it but China does have the edge on mold building in my experience. We order from a few places in the USA (we are based in California) and they're all top notch builds with the exception of a few things. These things being water lines where clamps need to do, flash on the part when processed in the molding machine as good as it will go and other minor things. The molds we get from China are perfect though, always to spec and never a single problem.
Im not quite sure why you have posted this other than to wind me up.The only reason this is produced in China is to capitalise on the extremely cheap labour costs. We should cancel all orders with greedy firms who have undermined the Western economy completely.The backlash will start! Heh lets all live on $5 a day!!
@Joyriser Big problem is that if some companies don't outsource labor, they will go out of business. Everything is all screwed up in our US economy. Take for example Lego, who is the 6th largest toy manufacturer and had toys being made in the US for a long time. They lost money for 2 years and were almost out of business and had to resort to moving labor to Mexico along with other business decisions and cuts to save the company. Lego is a great educational toy too! It's a catch 22.
Yep I totally agree with what you are saying but the thing is none of them should be allowed to outsource for cheap slave labour. Yes If one does it they all have to do it. So we all buy X boxes, gizmos and clothing from China. They build up a heathly manufacturing base and we end up like Ghost towns. Its all very well getting things a bit cheaper but at what real cost? Mass unemployment in The US/UK then less money to spend on all these things.
Very true. We've really felt it hard too here in the US the amounts of jobs available is small and people are unemployed for long periods of time. We need some big changes.
Yes I was in a job then overnight they said bye bye we are moving to China.
End Of job! There are 22 million people unemployed in Europe. All the bananas telling me its a Global economy need to wake up because they dont understand whats going on. My rent alone means I can compete with someone in the far east.
Thats why we have been conned in the west. The UK is bankrupt and unemployment is rising sharply. Thats just the figures they give! We hardly make anything anymore. All imported!
I'm curious about the mold price. it seems you use the cheapest way to make mold. how much does it cost? why the operator always use spray after take off particles. why it isn't automatic? the mold design is very poor... Don't you have a better designer? 5 engineer discuss design, mold quality is still low.
What say you patriots now, all ye who gave the ultimate for you country for what, so the wealthy can get even more wealthy....
HAPPYTHELEAF 6 months ago
I'm really impressive that video
China has a lot of biggest and cheapest plants
Try this~! sungshinmetal
recjin 10 months ago
I'm really impressive that video
China has a lot of biggest and cheapest plants
recjin 10 months ago
0:11 - What design utility is he using?
Afrocanuk 1 year ago
As much as hate to admit it, this shows that cheap labor gets things done. That said I think the Chinese are already having to pay more for labor. Some of the power tools at a certain import store I noticed are now from India not China. Hummm....
Nakayama1812 1 year ago
Look people, you can't impose U.S. legality and Capitalist ideas for China. During the industrial Revolution, all U.S. companies exploited the peasent workers next to nothing. People such as Rockefellar, J.P. Morgan and hosts of other top executives had slaves at their disposal. These ideas came from Rome which came from Egypt. For crying out loud, the chinese came to the U.S. only to find work putting dynamite into Rocks and blowing up earth to build the railway system.
popcorn4two 1 year ago
From the looks of the tool shop, with molds on the floor, personal without eye protection, working on the molds with regular clothing, parts scattered on the tables, the looks of the molding machines, i would not want products from this in my factory! Portuguese molds are still the bests I've seen, but its only a matter of time the chinese pick up!
xulisse9 1 year ago
@xulisse9
lets give them a little credit, there were safety doors on the mold carriage. ... even though the worker didn't really use them.
jcastl05 11 months ago
so I gotta ask: did that place actually BUY the software???
geekworks 1 year ago 2
moraine park community college in wisconsin is training toolmakers. it doesn't have to be a dying art. it is because america regulated and taxed its way out of competition. not saying we should burn the safety glasses, but stupid regs made to destroy our manufacturing base have worked too well. can it be done right, cost effective and safe? yes. can china do it? dont see how.
geekworks 1 year ago
yeah..... lets see them make computer molds for Apple
arkannot86 1 year ago
Are you saying that apple doesn't use chinese manufacturing? the vast majority of apple products are manufactured by foxconn. china's largest electronics manufacturer.
factionxvt408x 1 year ago
This is a great piece of propaganda.
In the real world most American companies are bound by ISO-9000/TS1649 not to mention OHSAA and copyrights.
It looks like they were making a "knockoff" handwheel for a Series 1 bridgeport mill quill feed.
Nice.... how all the CNC workers and polishers had no safety glasses....thats OK just get another one if he gets hurt.
kjv1971 1 year ago
Hydraulic Interlock and drop bar. Mold will not close until door closes. Same process as I work in the states.
2wheelpiracy 1 year ago
No safety guards on doors! This lady opened door when tool was still closed.Health and safety does not existing there!!!
oscarek08 2 years ago
The mold will not close until she closes the door though. That's where the real danger is. I suspect the worker knows from experience how hot the mold can get and doesn't try to get too close.
kadathdreamques 2 years ago
@oscarek08
thats actually ok
i am a toolmaker and we have johns machines that allow the door to open while the die is still shut.
it has a minimum of 2 hydraulic interlocks,one for pressurisation and one for impulse.
but some of the other machines like boy or battenfeld
have 5 interlocks,some hydraulic,some electric.
heathirving 1 year ago
Q = Does it get the job done?
A = Yes
No contest.
waldenhouse 2 years ago
the worlds best toolmakers are british. unfortunately, toolmakers in britain are valued at about the same price as shelf stackers. to learn to mill , turn ,cylindrical grind , surface grind, screwcut, benchfit, polish , hydraulics, tooling design, side core ,split line etc takes YEARS to learn. to put a tin of beans on a shelf takes ten seconds to learn. both jobs have the same values in the uk.
dgwbuildwright 2 years ago
mould = very expensive
production = extremely cheap
cjmitz 2 years ago
The China Quotes directory is a great source for people looking to find injection moulders in China
chinaquotes 2 years ago
There are great injection mold designers here in Canada. And they can make more than plastic toys.
kadathdreamques 2 years ago
My typos are shocking....proof read Joyriser :)
Thats Can't compete and in the comment before its spelt Healthy.
We Can't compete with people on $10 a day simply because we have a higher cost of living....food mortgage/rent etc
One day there will be a backlash over all this and unemployment is already rising in China as we order less. Because we have got less money due to unemployment and hard times.
Joyriser 2 years ago
my boss would kick my ass so hard if i would work like this
My09Music 2 years ago
very tough productive people ...keep on
jakoza2 2 years ago
Ya..Cant have anything but respect for the Chinese worker-
jsmythib 2 years ago
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Poorly paid chimps working in unsafe conditions. I love it, death to them all!
constantlydoped 2 years ago
Too bad that one visit to china to check on your project already discounts any cost savings from using a US firm. I am not saying that you should use the U.S., but all costs need to be measured not just the cost of the mold and part.
VistaTekUSA 2 years ago
Sad to say it but China does have the edge on mold building in my experience. We order from a few places in the USA (we are based in California) and they're all top notch builds with the exception of a few things. These things being water lines where clamps need to do, flash on the part when processed in the molding machine as good as it will go and other minor things. The molds we get from China are perfect though, always to spec and never a single problem.
ohnoitsryan 2 years ago 7
@ohnoitsryan Who are your suppliers if I may ask ? You can PM me if you want. Thanks !
bakagajin 1 year ago
Engineering department, LOL
elvisjonesus 3 years ago
To the loosers out there: It is all relative. Why don't you start by throwing away the clothes on your back? Ok, then, welcome to the global market.
nighttime321 3 years ago
Im not quite sure why you have posted this other than to wind me up.The only reason this is produced in China is to capitalise on the extremely cheap labour costs. We should cancel all orders with greedy firms who have undermined the Western economy completely.The backlash will start! Heh lets all live on $5 a day!!
Joyriser 3 years ago 10
@Joyriser Big problem is that if some companies don't outsource labor, they will go out of business. Everything is all screwed up in our US economy. Take for example Lego, who is the 6th largest toy manufacturer and had toys being made in the US for a long time. They lost money for 2 years and were almost out of business and had to resort to moving labor to Mexico along with other business decisions and cuts to save the company. Lego is a great educational toy too! It's a catch 22.
TheFutureLooksGrimm 2 years ago
Yep I totally agree with what you are saying but the thing is none of them should be allowed to outsource for cheap slave labour. Yes If one does it they all have to do it. So we all buy X boxes, gizmos and clothing from China. They build up a heathly manufacturing base and we end up like Ghost towns. Its all very well getting things a bit cheaper but at what real cost? Mass unemployment in The US/UK then less money to spend on all these things.
Joyriser 2 years ago
Very true. We've really felt it hard too here in the US the amounts of jobs available is small and people are unemployed for long periods of time. We need some big changes.
TheFutureLooksGrimm 2 years ago
Yes I was in a job then overnight they said bye bye we are moving to China.
End Of job! There are 22 million people unemployed in Europe. All the bananas telling me its a Global economy need to wake up because they dont understand whats going on. My rent alone means I can compete with someone in the far east.
Thats why we have been conned in the west. The UK is bankrupt and unemployment is rising sharply. Thats just the figures they give! We hardly make anything anymore. All imported!
Joyriser 2 years ago
I'm curious about the mold price. it seems you use the cheapest way to make mold. how much does it cost? why the operator always use spray after take off particles. why it isn't automatic? the mold design is very poor... Don't you have a better designer? 5 engineer discuss design, mold quality is still low.
dioiao 3 years ago
pretty soon you'll see husky injection molding in this video.
tinramm 3 years ago
cool video!
4plastics411com 3 years ago
Is this in Wuhan Province? I visited a factory very similar to this one at the Huazong University of Science and Technology Park
neilutubename 3 years ago
interesting
europlastics 3 years ago
i wanna see model train process
jschmid 3 years ago
traitor
kerry1111111 3 years ago