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Christ Hedges also just stated National Socialism is Facism.
Typical marxist propaganda, and the lil brainless conformists whom parrot everything they hear from such people, simply because they assume anyone that gets paraded around on television = automatic expert, knows everything....100% truth right here..
Frankfurt School did well, really well, they warned us during the early 1920's, that the west will be beaten, to death, and then beaten some more to make sure its dead
Sorry but the only religious group anyone has to fear is international Jewry, or rather, Zionism, and its puppet western governments for the last 300+ years.
First and foremost, you talk about the subject as if you even know what facist advocate, and what their history is.
But I highly doubt you even have a clue about their history and ideology, wouldn't be surprising seeing as marxists run the public schools, and its teachers top down are influenced by the the Frankfurt School of Zionist Intellectuals in critical theory and deconstruction of the west.
Where do yo think radical feminism and political correctness comes from?...by accidence?.
Same people running the banks...expectially the central ones, now you can tax the other half of the population and the children can be remolded into critical theory, educated by the state.
as for religion being facists....spoken like a true mouth piece of the indoctrinated marxist public school board.
Communists where athiests, killed 167 million people++.
love how a degenerate will use marxists critical theory to deconstruct christians by saying "They are waging a war on science" whilst in the same breath these degenerate marxists leftist political radicals will tell you "Race does not exist"
If thats the case why do forensic officers take blood samples to find the race of the offender when their is only dna left behind, why is it I need to have someone not only my same blood type, but someone of my own race before I can have a blood trandfusion?
fascism has existed in america for a long time. it's economic. where the state and major industry work together to take money from the public. using it to describe a genocidal state is dubious, since there has been genocide under all political ideologies. this guy seems to be against what is called "bigotry" but he figures if he uses the word "fascism" it sounds fancier.
i wonder if he refined his anti-right thinking after seeing the bush-obama tag-team fascist bailouts.
@odunne2 What your describing is state capitalism. The corporatocracy has degraded our economy and democracy and when these become completely eroded that is when we are vulnerable to the threat of fascist take-over.
@WarmachineVengeance i guess you can call it state-capitalism. but i don't consider what people call state-capitalism (like china) true capitalism.
fascism is dictatorial, collectivist and anti-class. i would argue it's closer to soviet-style communism than capitalism.
Mussolini's defined fascism as the merger of state and corporate power. He also said it's revolutionary against "liberalism" (what i call capitalism) which "wants to reduce the size of the State to its necessary functions."
@odunne2 then you must know that many different organizations can be called corporations. you must also know that a corporation is "a separate legal entity created for the sole purposes of limited liability among those who are a part of it". This includes non-profit organizations, unions, churches, etc.
Knowing that, how to do manage to misinterpret such an easy quote?
@Hinrichten hah. i am aware of the legal definition of corporation. and i don't think it's even that simple. but there's the practical definition. when people talk about corporate power, they are talking about the power of the world's most powerful companies. not the power of limited liability. it just so happens that they have limited liability. but even without it, they would still have the same power. corporate power in our world today is the power of big business.
@odunne2 that wasn't a legal definition i gave you, that was almost word for word from the encyclopedia britannica. You should also know that people often misuse words, specifically corporatism (which is often confused with plutocracy).
@Hinrichten if you don't think corporatism is plutocratic, then you might as well merge your definitions of corporatism and capitalism. the difference between what happened under fascist states and what is supposed to happen under a free market is that the government took a lot of money from the people and the big corporations could bribe the government to get that money in one way or another.
@odunne2 corporatism is no where near plutocratic...
"corporatism, Italian corporativismo, also called corporativism, the theory and practice of organizing society into “corporations” subordinate to the state. According to corporatist theory, workers and employers would be organized into industrial and professional corporations serving as organs of political representation and controlling to a large extent the persons and activities within their jurisdiction."
@odunne2 I agree that fascism and stalinism had many similarities, and Leninism is to a various degree totalitarian, but USSR was in no way communist. It called itself socialist, but was practically strongly anti-socialist. Remember that Mussolini also said that fascism was socialism turned on its head. People also forget that socialism is really an offshoot of classical liberalism, and that you can just as well call Adam Smith a spokeperson for socialism as Karl Marx.
@RSFO yeah maybe. i think you and hinrichten are both using technical definitions. it reminds me of people who say that what we order at pizza hut is not pizza because true pizza is the first ever usage of the term, which is some weird looking thing they make in italy. but marx did originally support the soviet form of government. unlike others like bakunin, so if it's not communism, then you have to admit there was a flaw in marx's theories.
@odunne2 Not even Marx supported what Lenin did. Remember that the left Marxists like Rosa Luxemburg and Antonie Pannekoek were *very* critical of Lenin. Rosa Luxembourg even wrote an article in 1904 to emphasize the difference between Leninism and Marxism. Marx also became more anarchist after he wrote The Communist Manifesto. Truly this manifest was flawed. But in any ideology it is not a person that is the guide, but the scientific method.
@RSFO I don't agree with your analogy, btw. It was an honest blow against newspeak to restore the meaning of words. The meaning of words change, but they should only change when we find a better definition. We should be careful not to turn any ism into a scapegoat. That is why George Orwell told us that we should recognise the good in even fascism. Otherwise we might just exactly get everything which is bad in fascism one way or another.
@RSFO Also, I identify the scientific method within a non-dualist and evolutionary sense as Charles S. Peirce did. As quoted off from Wikipedia: "The scientific method - the method wherein inquiry regards itself as fallible and purposely tests itself and criticizes, corrects, and improves itself." I don't really care what you call it, as long as the spirit is the same. It is eternally evolutionary in any sense.
Expansionism,militarism,right-wing extremism,national romanticism,ethnocentrism (xenophobia,anti-minority,anti-immigrant,othering,hatred,discrimination,racism),assimilation,anti-internationalism,anti-Semitism,Islamophobia,homophobia,conservatism,religious extremism,religious fanaticism,traditionalism,anti-secular,excessive centralization,despotism,totalitarianism,anti-labor,collectivism,authoritarian corporatism and the dictatorship of capital = FASCISM
Facsism= The merger of corporate and state powers used to legislate law, often using alliences of religious and or military institutions to quell dissent.
Socialism=An economic model where the workers of a society control the means of production i.e.worker owned and invested companies and factories.
@Octopus0051 See: "The Obama Deception" ( All POTUS are puppets). Hear what KRS ONE and Professor Griff have to say on the subject.,
Then see "Freedom to Fascism", "The President Who told The Truth", "NWO, Secret Societies and Biblical Prophecy", "Aquarius, Age of Evil", "Juri Lina" In The Shadow of Hermes", and "THRIVE-Full Length movie".
You are way behind the pack.
BTW, Marx, Engels , Trotsky and Lenin were all practicing Satanists, not "atheists". Look it up!
@sheepOG crony capitalism leads to fascism, real capitalism is about people interacting and participating in their economy without infringement by private monopolies *and* state monopolies.
@Hinrichten Well said. What is erased from our History Books is things like John D Rockefeller's quote that "Competition is a Sin". It was taken as joke, it wasn't.
John D bribed the Politicians in Delaware and New Jersey (And set the rest of the Country to follow) all Corporations were once required to apply for re-chartering approximately every 10 years or so.
The criteria to meet for approval to renew the Charter was to prove that they were operating in the Public's best interest. Gone!
@sheepOG Well said. What is erased from our History Books is things like John D Rockefeller's quote that "Competition is a Sin". It was taken as joke, it wasn't.
John D bribed the Politicians in Delaware and New Jersey (And set the rest of the Country to follow) all Corporations were once required to apply for re-chartering approximately every 10 years or so.
The criteria to meet for approval to renew the Charter was to prove that they were operating in the Public's best interest. Gone!
I highly recommend that anyone who reads this post also read The Doctrine of Fascism. It has great philosophical depth and might change how many of you actually view Fascism. I DARE you to read that work because it blatantly counters today's conception of what fascism even is. I don't necessarily agree with fascism, but Chris doesn't even know what Fascism is. The Italian Fascists explicitly state that they want to promote art, culture AND intellectual inquiry. Mussolini wasn't racist either.
@TheDavid2222 It was Hitler that was the racist. I remember he even said the Italian people were "impure" because "their blood was tainted by negros from africa".
The anti-Comintern pact was strictly realpolitik, there was absolutely no friendship in that relationship.
@TheDavid2222 Tell it to H.I.M. Haile Sellassie I and Ethiopia. I am sure Ethiopia is interested in your views on 'fascism' - no more than greed and violence capturing supposedly democratic power. I am a fan of informed consensus and responsible authority. I see none of that in 'the west' today outside the 'fringe left'. Until 'Christians' abide by Christ's own radical socialism and overthrow the money changers nothing will change while the rich employs the poor as professional 'warriors'.
@TheDavid2222 That is true, as I had to read it for research, and it could easily be summed up as the state takes the level of a spiritual entity promoted by/through art, entertainment, all forms of service, military action, even religion.
@TheDavid2222 BLESS YOU! You have greatly spread the knowledge of what I am proud to say my Ideology! Everyone in my school respects me because they know I support true fascism and not the nazi cover up!
It can be unpleasant to expose the falsehoods exhibited by delusional minds. People become so desperate that they will succumb to fantasy, perpetuated by egomaniacs, in order to maintain some sort of control over their sanity. The leaders of the religious right are not in love with Jesus; they are in love with mammon.
The O'leary interview happened two weeks ago. And, I'm pretty sure he's not implying that Christianity is failing as a whole, he's saying that Dominionists have created something that is a distorted unreality.
This guy just chose the term Fascism instead of Authoritarian or Utopian in the title of his book for shock value. His "explanation" for the use of the term, (particularly between 1:24 and 3:00) is messy and close to the absurd. Fascism, like Communism, are ideologies with attached economical programmes, not words you should just conjure for effect.
fact - Capitalism is naturally inclined towards Fascism....it was only a matter of time.....fact - it took 80 odd years for Capitalism to direct enough state violence towards Socialism to destroy it and memory of it. But the desire to help others and organize others to do so with the state is an old idea. We shall keep trying until we get it right. Water, Food, Shelter for all. After that the answers shall unfold.
@SmileyGarrish That social democracy movement in Germany and Italy prior to the rise of fascism was just a fluke right, if it had been socialism it would have been so much better - like the Soviet union right ?
We would all be so much better off if we were socialists because that never leads to fascism:
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FACT: every case of state level fascism has come from a socialist society
@rrmackay sorry false premise on your part - typically rewriting history to feed a capitalist utopia: the social democracies were in fact 'overthrown' via violence and covert corporate control of government mechanisms as soon as their success became obvious to elites and those same elites were able to mobilize and finance their Black and Brownshirt thugs. What colour shirt do you wear?
@SmileyGarrish Let me get this straight, as soon as the social democracies were successful of what - dominating the people ? Hitler didn't need to have some major take over of the social democratic party in Germany, it was a nothing more than a shift of blame, Hitler also used "blaming the rich jews" as the central theme of his rallying cry, just like the OWS today. Zeig heil Gitler - down with the rich! I dont wear a shirt unless I am being paid to work.
@rrmackay I should add that no one here proposes destruction/violence against 'The Rich' not at all. The wealth is required. Peaceful Socialists NOW want to see sharing and caring as the government obligations they once were being reinstated to lay groundwork for responsible people helping each other free of religious bias and hatred. The rampant personal materialism must now be bridled with a 'social tax' let us face it. Without reason to support the state, no support persists - status quo.
@SmileyGarrish And you are willing to use violence and coercion against me to achieve your egalitarian ends? Are you willing to hold a gun to my head or threaten me with jail-time if I refuse to support your socialistic plans ?
@rrmackay You must view the world from a one way mirror - violence and coercion are used continually to destroy 'egalitarian ends'. People like you hold guns and tear gas and dogs over the weak, poor, sick and homeless of this world, and USE THEM whenever someone approaches the mere idea of distributing society's wealth equitably amongst all fellow humans. If you deny anyone water food and shelter you are not only fascist but inhumane. That is the world we see today. Malicious, greedy, violent.
@SmileyGarrish Violence and coercion are almost exclusively the domain of the state, the government is the only entity allowed to use violence without repercussions. Don't caste me as one of the oppressors I am certainly not one. Do you disagree that you would have government take my money with the intent of using to distribute to other s in society ? Government would take my money at the point of a gun, so you are advocating state violence towards me to achieve your concept of social justice!
@rrmackay Methinks you obsess about 'money': I am more interested in civil co operation and progressive consensus, tinged with humanity. Some call it democratic socialism.
@SmileyGarrish See: "The Obama Deception" ( All POTUS are puppets). Hear what KRS ONE and Professor Griff have to say on the subject.,
Then see "Freedom to Fascism", "The President Who told The Truth", "NWO, Secret Societies and Biblical Prophecy", "Aquarius, Age of Evil", "Juri Lina" In The Shadow of Hermes", and "THRIVE-Full Length movie".
You are way behind the pack.
BTW, Marx, Engels , Trotsky and Lenin were all practicing Satanists, not "atheists". Look it up!
@SmileyGarrish capitalism is NOT inclined towards fascism. Corporatism IS. Does capitalism have subsidies, banker bailouts (corporate welfare), tax breaks for the richest, over regulation with regulation breaks to the biggest, government involvement in buisness, and an inflationary currency.?? NO, that meats the deffinition of a corporatist economy. Which is the type of economy used by Mussolini to move Italy to fascism, and what america really has.
@paulksycki You may miss the historical context. Fascists have ruled England since the Industrial Revolution. Fascists have ruled the two headed military dictatorship call The USA since at least 1776. America is an example of rich white people combatting other rich white people to control the economy, the people and the country, and now The World. Fascism includes an intellectual disconnection at the highest offices in which the inbred rich and powerful dominate all others for their own gain.
@paulksycki Well said. What is erased from our History Books is things like John D Rockefeller's quote that "Competition is a Sin". It was taken as joke, it wasn't.
John D bribed the Politicians in Delaware and New Jersey (And set the rest of the Country to follow) all Corporations were once required to apply for re-chartering approximately every 10 years or so.
The criteria to meet for approval to renew the Charter was to prove that they were operating in the Public's best interest. Gone!
@SmileyGarrish For a "capitalist" country Fascist Italy sure as hell had a lot of control over the economy.
"Unlike the Capitalist economies, Dirigisme was implemented by the government as a permanent solution rather than a temporary one to keep the economy stable during the war. After the Great Depression, the government owned and controlled three quarters of its industry, and had no intention of relinquishing its hold IE Alfa Romeo was state owned even after the collapse of Fascist Italy."
@Iisdabest889 If you're convinced people like Franco weren't Fascist, then you are well outside the realm of accepted disagreement. You're saying Orwell, Umberto Eco, Lawrence Britt and other experts on Fascism were wrong. Your idea of Facsism sounds like one tailored to divert blame from any Christian person or belief. You missatributed quotes, and the ones that are correct are cherry-picked (for example, you ignore Mein Kampf whenever discussing Hitler).
@spartan2600 I suggest you study fascism for yourself and then study Franco's regime. There were key differences IE expansionism, relation to the Church, his conservatism and even his economic policy to a certain extent. Most MODERN historians don't consider a Franco to be a fascist anymore.
Mein-kampf wasn't a private publication. In schools it replaced the Bible.
@Iisdabest889 When Hitler arrested those Catholics, it was for dissent, not for their Catholicism. That is the key distinction- they may well have been intellectuals or bakers.
@spartan2600 Officially, it was for that. As both Nazi Germany AND Fascist Italy were NOT anti clerical states, the ideologies were. For example, the Blackshirts before Mussolini came to power targeted socialists, marxists, aristocrats and catholics alike.
Same with Occupied Poland, while the Nazis were not officially anti clerical by law, many of the clergymen were arrested under false charges or were framed (though some did resist the Nazis outright).
@Iisdabest889 The first quote you have is not from Hiter, its from Hermann Rauschning, one of Hitler's friends, but he wasn't speaking for Hitler. You are either being dishonest, or you just don't care. The other quote is in Konrad Heiden's autobiography of Hitler, but isn't backed up by any other sources.
On the other hand, Hitler cites and re-affirms the legitimacy of Christianity with quotes from the Bible, but there is no doubting that Mein Kampf was indeed Hitler's.
@spartan2600 ""You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?" -- Adolf Hitler.
So are you suggesting that what Hitler said in Public was the truth, but what he said in Private was a lie?
@Iisdabest889 Also, the nation of Germany was overwhelmingly Christian- both Lutheran and Catholic, and both churches competed with each other to see who could please Hitler more (they wanted more power over Germans, of course). I think it says something about a religion that a nation of 78 million, mostly Christian, would willingly serve the Fascist state and carry out genocide. Also, if you would suggest Francisco Franco wasn't a Fascist, you really are on the lunatic fringe.
@spartan2600 When did this happen? A lot of Church property was confiscated from the Nazis, religious education was closed down, and the Reich Church which followed positive Christianity was meant to have control over them all (sound familiar? Communist China, anyone?).
If you think Franco was a Fascist, I suggest you learn what fascism is.
@Iisdabest889 Franco's political party and his base of support were the Carlist party, which was right-wing, traditionalist and monarchist, and the Falange, which was an indisputably Fascist party. When Franco took over the Falange, he got rid of the one difference between the Falange and Mussolini-style Fascism- the Falange was originally syndicalist.
@spartan2600 Franco's PARTY, the Falange, was ORIGINALLY fascist. It called for land reforms for the peasants and redistribution of wealth, and syndicalism, but this was disbanded under Franco.
Also, fascism is a REPUBLICAN & REVOLUTIONARY form of nationalism, which in the end is meant to replace religion. Franco SUPPORTED the monarchy, was conservative, and SUPPORTED the Catholic Church.
@spartan2600 He may have been a dictator, but that did not make him a Fascist at all. Clearly, you don't know much about fascism because it is an EXPANSIONIST ideology also calling for a CULTURAL REVOLUTION. Franco believed merely that "Spain was for Spaniards" and that was that, let alone cultural conservatism.
The Lateran pact in Italy gave Mussolini support, but it also meant the Church could not speak out against his actions later on. Franco didn't worry about displeasing the Church.
@spartan2600 Hitler had the same problem with the Church, but when his actions were spoken against quite a few Catholic Convents were shut down as a result of government suppression, and church property was seized in certain areas.
all you gotta do is look at the ideology of the christian right,,the ideology is close to nazism and its also akin to sharia law,to deny science ,to deny reproductive rights or equal rights, to censor opposing ideas,to rely on goverment and military to police morality,extreme hatred and attack on diversity in society,I could go on and on
@Mcsqweezy Rubbish. Fascists hate anyone who either opposes or rivals their power. Stalin killed more Communists than Hitler did, and Stalin wasn't considered a fascist! Think of it like protestants and Catholics... in the end they're still Christian.
I mean, if you think calling fascism left wing is weird, calling it right wing is just insane! I mean, right wingers who support a controlled economy, oppose individualism, anti clericalism and anti capitalism?
@Iisdabest889 Generally the right-wing is associated with capitalism, heirarchy, traditionalism and religion, and Fascism has all those things to an extreme. Also, I don't think you can count causing some people to die from starvation to be the same as "killing." No doubt Stalin was terrible, but he didn't kill more people living in the USSR (not necessarily 'communists") than the German army. In fact, no nation lost more people during WWII than the USSR.
@spartan2600 "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." - Adolf Hitler.
The amount of Control the Fascists put over industry makes calling Fascism "capitalist" moronic.
@Iisdabest889 The Marxist definition of capitalism includes Fascist states. The only difference between typical capitalist states and Fascist ones is an *increased* cooperation between state and industry. Note I say *increased,* all capitalist ventures requires state cooperation to some degree.
Also, Hitler appealed to socialists since they were a large sector of the population.
If Hitler said he's socialist and you believe him, do you also believe Lenin when he said he was for "democracy?"
@spartan2600 The Objectivist definition of socialism includes Fascist states too.
Oh.. I don't think forcing businesses to serve the interests of the state even when it means profit loss would be considered "cooperation". The term is "coercion", which capitalism opposes. Nor do I think that forcing big businessmen to use their profits and assets to serve the state IE Krupp is exactly "cooperation".
I believe hitler was a socialist the same way you believe he is a Christian.
@Iisdabest889 Capitalism always required state control of some aspects of the economy from even before it was capitalism- the proto-capitalist mercantilism economy in England saw the cooperation between the crown and the English East India Company. If the Fascist state took control of some capitalist businesses, it was for the benefit of the whole, Hegel's organic unity. If Krupp had to give up some private control it was so that the rest of the capitalist enterprise could profit.
@spartan2600 There was no "capitalist enterprise" after the national socialists took power, it was only the state. Profit and production alike didn't serve or benefit the businessmen in anyway, which is why Germany was outproduced by the West; businessmen didn't have the incentive to work hard as they wouldn't benefit. That's one of the biggest arguments the right has against socialism, I'm surprised they don't bring up Germany as often.
@Iisdabest889 This is why businesses in America loved Fascism and hated socialism. Fascism gave businesses elevated and privileged status. IBM, Coca-Cola and hundreds of other corporations and businesses flooded Germany with investment money after Hitler took power. Perhaps you will next make the argument that IBM is really a "socialist" entity.
@spartan2600 National Socialism appealed to workers, businessmen, industrialists, agriculturalists and the like, as the ideology was meant to appeal to ALL.
The branches of these international companies were not under international control! Hitler was TOTALITARIAN, and OPPOSED foreign powers controlling germany. Then Coca cola branch was still controlled like all the others, but it allowed money to come into the country.
@Iisdabest889 I don't consider the USSR communist or socialist- as do many millions of others including those involved in the Hungarian and Czech uprisings. The USSR represented state capitalism.
Also, having only one trait of the right wing doesn't make someone entirely right-wing. There are shades of gray. Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist, but not most of the other things the right represents.
@spartan2600 If the USSR is considered right wing, then maybe fascism could be as well. But if one defines socialism as state control of industry, then both the USSR and Nazi Germany were socialist.
Not anarcho socialism, with worker control, I mean state direction and tight controls on the economy.
@Iisdabest889 You can pick out a quote or a symbolic act here or there, but it doesn't change the fact that the right is overwhelmingly pro-religion. The left is more mixed. Many Asian and East European communists were explicitly atheist. On the other hand, most of the socialists Central and South America believe in liberation theology, and the Kibbutz in Israel were run by practicing Jews from Germany. The worker-run factories in Yugoslavia and 1930's Spain would've been mixed atheist-Christian
@spartan2600 I don't deny the right is overwhelmingly more religious, I deny that atheist figures like Mussolini, or just anti Christian heads like Hitler would be considered "right wing" when the modern right seems to oppose everything they stood for.
For example, the modern right wing opposes taxation and government interference of churches but supports a free market, gun rights, religion in schools, etc. Fascism is the opposite in these instances.
@Iisdabest889 Hitler was not "anti Christian," he was extremely pro Christian. Hitler was raised a Catholic and never renounced his faith, nor did the Catholic church ever admonish him while Hitler was alive. Also, the right SAYS that they're against taxes and government, but they aren't- or at least they aren't in practice. Republicans always create the biggest deficits, are pro-military and pro-government intervention. Also, Hitler supported the gun rights of Germans.
@spartan2600 "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." -- Adolf Hitler, 10 October, 1941.
"There is something very unhealthy about Christianity." -- Adolf Hitler, 9 April, 1942.
Yet, you claim that what Hitler said in his speeches was the TRUTH? Hitler said he was a socialist, why do you say he was lying then but not when it came to Christianity?
@Iisdabest889 Musslolini may have been anti-clerical, but Hitler used Bible quotes in his speeches and the Lutheran and Catholics fell over themselves to court favor with Hitler. The 3rd most important Fascist in history, Francisco Franco was a strident Catholic. That 2 out of 3 Fascists who were very pro-religion.
@spartan2600 Francisco Franco wasn't even a fascist. He was a conservative authoritarian. Fascism is expansionist, controls religion and economics, controls the press, eliminates opposition and is revolutionary. Franco restored the church but didn't control it like Stalin and Hitler did, he did set up trade barriers and big regulations, but didn't take over industry, he wanted to go back to the old days rather than revolutionise, and was NOT an imperialist!
@spartan2600 Both Mussolini and Hitler realized it would be foolish to directly attack the church, and suffered the same problems many of the communist dictators came across. Mussolini signed the Lateran Pact with the Church, but did threaten it whenever it spoke out against his regime.
Hitler himself closed down catholic schools, removed mandatory prayer, suppressed the churches, killed 19% of the Polish clergy, yet was supposedly a "christian".
@Iisdabest889 "I'm surprised they don't bring up Germany as often."
That's because everything you think you know about the Nazi's and capitalism is dead wrong. Foreign capital and American corporations (like IBM, Chrysler and Coca Cola) flooded into Germany after Hitler took over. You really are utterly ignorant of the entire history of the Nazis. Read any reputable work on the history and turn off the Glenn Beck.
@spartan2600 You really are utterly ignorant of history, aren't you?! Socialism is government control of the means of production, and even the American companies were subject to the regulations and contracts german industry faced.
Krupp, for example, was subsidized and made huge profits under Hitler's regime, but the executives were only allowed to use the profits to benefit the industry and the state, not themselves. Otherwise they were nationalized.
@spartan2600 It does not necessarily mean profit loss, it just means state control. Many industries in Europe are controlled by the government, but attract foreign private investors who make profits from them.
@spartan2600 Uh... you DO realize there was a heirachy in the USSR, right? And traditionalism can't be purely right wing, seeing as how LEFTISTS like Ho Chi Minh were vehement nationalists would be right wing by that definition.
And as for religion? Why did Hitler shut down Catholic schools (AFTER the pact with the Vatican), outlaw compulsory prayer in schools and control the churches?
And why did Stalin RE INTRODUCE the Russian Orthodox church, if religion is right wing only?
@spartan2600 Oh yea, you know Mussolini? The FOUNDER of Fascism? Good luck trying to prove he wasn't an atheist. He was about as pro Christian as Stalin.
Ever heard of the Mexican Redshirts? The atheist paramilitary fascist organization that opened fire on people exiting mass?
@Iisdabest889 Did you even watch the video? The Fascist identifiers Hedges quotes Umberto Echo on are straight from the religious right, and the non-religious right, like Ayn Rand (who worshipped manliness etc.).
I think Chris Hedges is biased from my listening to him in this session at least. I will listen to him in more and read him. Much of what he says is fallacious. I don't even see a new strain, the same elements and principals have always been present. This is trying to shift people away from real Fascism which is the business power and the state. Look at the people in government, look at their history(work and family income generations past). That is serious, he's distorting.
I think you are just trying to provoke some kind of argument. You use words like challenge what he says, I think you are looking to or expected voicing opinion to be something confrontantionary. I have voiced what I felt about Chris Hedges in this segment. I think that reading and comprehension go a long way. He makes many assertions in a9:43min interview and I have 500 characters to type, are you serious. Its call concision, I expressed my views in a concise way.
Chris Hedges is so so articulate... an explosion of revealing, mindblowing good sense. Why are there No politicians like this? How can he possibly be American? I thought true American insight like this had died out with Norman Mailer? Thankfully I was wrong, wrong, wrong.
Bo evil christians are going to get ya ! fear sells , eh ? What about libtards trying to shove their values up everyone throat ? that's totally kosher ?
Hitler called his party the "National Socialists" and how that could be sold as a right wing agenda falls to the arms of propaganda, another of the CBC faithful's most evident specialties. Right up there with Global warming, "Second" or now "Third" hand smoke and pandemics by the dozen.
All disastrous, ever urgent and world ending as well.
Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!..
Today's fear is "Beware the cell phone", but they never mentioned the identical broadcast TV signals, measured in mega watts of power?
@THEFXR You're totally right about the Nazis being socialists (irony), that's why all the socialists and communists were the first to be sent to the concentration camps, right? As for the the name "National Socialists", "what's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet." Having fun in your mom's basement you conspiracy nut? Happy trolls.
@cossintan1 If you read the Communist manifesto, you will see that Marx identified around a half dozen forms of socialism that he characterized as reactionary. Both Italian and German fascism promoted a primitive version of socialism centred around primitive notions of a community spirit (in germany, volkism and "blud und boden"). However, Hitler liquidated the socialist wing of the party as soon as he attained political power.
It's great to live in a country where atheism is tolerated and perhaps worshiped? or the politically corrected fashion statement of the day, and it is possible to elect a Communist or fascist regime, in spite of an entire system of government and law which was created in biblical stylization.
If people find peace with whatever they believe, and they live among us in mutual respect, there is no need to destroy the faith of others and spoil an inner happiness for them, in search of your own version of happiness. Live and let live and stop bashing the Christians, it only makes you look like a communist or worse, because there is no other logical justification for your extremist contempt.
"Your politics are unimportant, I have your children"
Fascism exists and it is housed in the UN and the oratory is in the form of the World Health Organization. ["New "research" shows" and "their needs to be a new law" to "Protect" other people's "helpless children"] at the end of the day, nothing has changed since the last time we experience the body purity mantra and the medico mafia, is again spewing their poison in hopes of finding dangerous freedoms for themselves, by the elimination of personal autonomy, while pointing a crooked finger.
I don't hold a lot of sway with televangelism, but isn't the current rendition presented by George, Christian Salomon or David Suzuki and any number of the politically devout, at the helm of our national broadcaster, simply [like the so called "medical treatments" they offer to help you quit smoking, with a 95% failure rate] a substitution of one bad habit with another?
Hedges has no grasp of legitimate timelines. Far be it from the CBC or George, to understand that creationism predates all forms of modern day political leanings, including the fascist style, which is also misplaced as a far right leaning, when in fact it's primary support has always come from the extremes of the left.
Hedges has no grasp of legitimate timelines. Far be it from the CBC or George, to understand that creationism predates all forms of modern day political leanings, including the fascist style, which is also misplaced as a far right leaning, when in fact it's primary support has always come from the extremes of the left.
This guy is nothing but an alarmist and a fear monger. America is NOT going to be turned into a Christian state, theres too many who oppose that for it to gain serious support, dont eat this idiot's bullshit people.
"war against modernism" as an "eternal principle of fascism" is an oxymoron.
History shows the strong links between the esthetic futuristic movement and European fascist movements.
The discussion/debate about "evolution" versus "creationism" is on a primitive level as well. I am tired of hearing about this stupid argument. It is obvious to me that the bible is not offering a literal timetable and the "theory" of evolution similarly cannot be called "truth" rather than investigation.
War is a Racket---Major General Smedley Butler. Read this small book on line and you will understand our problem. Mr. Hedges is a talkinghead with no real solutions. Like one of our forefathers said-Let us not get involved in foreign entanglements. If we isolate and produce, we will or should I say, would have been, just fine. End all Fractional Banking! Kick the Elite Banksters out of our country. Usary free(service fee only) money is the answer.Study North Dakota Bank.
@TheLoveschach 1) That's no communism then. That's Anarchy. Or least he idea of being without government. If that's what you are saying. If it isn't please correct me. 2) That's not the slightest true. No matter where you from wall street to the Kalahari Desert you will have competition and a survival of the fittest. That's life. If communism could work, that'd be fantastic. But unfortunately the human being is imperfect.
@TheLoveschach You must believe in theoretical communism which is perfectly fine. I think it is the best system possible. One problem. It is IMPOSSIBLE. You are wasting your time. How is everyone equal when there is one supreme ruler? I'm not defending fascism by the way. If you see how every country takes communism they use it for evil. Communism will never work due to human nature. And the police almost never incite riots. I've police just stand watch of a protest then the protesters start to
@TheLoveschach If oyu honestly think communist protesters really want rights and dignity for the common working people you are flat out stupid. And if you think violent riots are acceptable, then again you are flat out stupid.
Fascism is not a threat. Communism is a much bigger threat but I never hear that ruled out. Fascists are peaceful opposed to communists. Here in Italy, The communists start violent riots while Fascists have group meetings which cause no harm. This guy honestly doesn't know too much about what he is talking about.
@orbis2009... I am one who bemoans the loss of genuine democracy. AND, I would accept such a deplorable decision as you suggest. However, in what context is such a ruling handed down? Is the populous sufficiently informed and educated before such a referendum is proposed? If not, then the criteria of thriving democracy is not sufficiently met, and the proposed scenario useless. Hence the continued bludgeoning of any organized form of populism prior to its expansion to the masses.
Many on the political Left rightly bemoan the loss of genuine democracy in our political context in this nation. Certainly the powers are loathe to consult the people in direct referenda about the timely issues of the day. But would The Left ACCEPT the result of genuine referendums if, say, a majority of the people in the nation voted directly to ban abortion? or would they cry fascism & whine to the Black Robes to overturn the majority? What then becomes of their alleged love for democracy?
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Dissidentsdissent 1 month ago
Christ Hedges also just stated National Socialism is Facism.
Typical marxist propaganda, and the lil brainless conformists whom parrot everything they hear from such people, simply because they assume anyone that gets paraded around on television = automatic expert, knows everything....100% truth right here..
Frankfurt School did well, really well, they warned us during the early 1920's, that the west will be beaten, to death, and then beaten some more to make sure its dead
Take a last breath
CelticAngloPress 1 month ago
Your video is a favorite on Dodoma
georgepotter428 2 months ago
Sorry but the only religious group anyone has to fear is international Jewry, or rather, Zionism, and its puppet western governments for the last 300+ years.
CelticAngloPress 2 months ago
@CelticAngloPress All religions have a fundamentalist faction wanting to take fascist control.
WarmachineVengeance 1 month ago
@WarmachineVengeance
First and foremost, you talk about the subject as if you even know what facist advocate, and what their history is.
But I highly doubt you even have a clue about their history and ideology, wouldn't be surprising seeing as marxists run the public schools, and its teachers top down are influenced by the the Frankfurt School of Zionist Intellectuals in critical theory and deconstruction of the west.
CelticAngloPress 1 month ago
@WarmachineVengeance
Where do yo think radical feminism and political correctness comes from?...by accidence?.
Same people running the banks...expectially the central ones, now you can tax the other half of the population and the children can be remolded into critical theory, educated by the state.
as for religion being facists....spoken like a true mouth piece of the indoctrinated marxist public school board.
Communists where athiests, killed 167 million people++.
CelticAngloPress 1 month ago
love how a degenerate will use marxists critical theory to deconstruct christians by saying "They are waging a war on science" whilst in the same breath these degenerate marxists leftist political radicals will tell you "Race does not exist"
If thats the case why do forensic officers take blood samples to find the race of the offender when their is only dna left behind, why is it I need to have someone not only my same blood type, but someone of my own race before I can have a blood trandfusion?
CelticAngloPress 2 months ago
fascism has existed in america for a long time. it's economic. where the state and major industry work together to take money from the public. using it to describe a genocidal state is dubious, since there has been genocide under all political ideologies. this guy seems to be against what is called "bigotry" but he figures if he uses the word "fascism" it sounds fancier.
i wonder if he refined his anti-right thinking after seeing the bush-obama tag-team fascist bailouts.
odunne2 2 months ago
@odunne2 What your describing is state capitalism. The corporatocracy has degraded our economy and democracy and when these become completely eroded that is when we are vulnerable to the threat of fascist take-over.
WarmachineVengeance 1 month ago
@WarmachineVengeance i guess you can call it state-capitalism. but i don't consider what people call state-capitalism (like china) true capitalism.
fascism is dictatorial, collectivist and anti-class. i would argue it's closer to soviet-style communism than capitalism.
Mussolini's defined fascism as the merger of state and corporate power. He also said it's revolutionary against "liberalism" (what i call capitalism) which "wants to reduce the size of the State to its necessary functions."
odunne2 1 month ago
@odunne2 do you know what a corporation is?
Hinrichten 1 month ago
@Hinrichten yes
odunne2 1 month ago
@odunne2 then you must know that many different organizations can be called corporations. you must also know that a corporation is "a separate legal entity created for the sole purposes of limited liability among those who are a part of it". This includes non-profit organizations, unions, churches, etc.
Knowing that, how to do manage to misinterpret such an easy quote?
Hinrichten 1 month ago
@Hinrichten hah. i am aware of the legal definition of corporation. and i don't think it's even that simple. but there's the practical definition. when people talk about corporate power, they are talking about the power of the world's most powerful companies. not the power of limited liability. it just so happens that they have limited liability. but even without it, they would still have the same power. corporate power in our world today is the power of big business.
odunne2 1 month ago
@odunne2 that wasn't a legal definition i gave you, that was almost word for word from the encyclopedia britannica. You should also know that people often misuse words, specifically corporatism (which is often confused with plutocracy).
Hinrichten 1 month ago
@Hinrichten if you don't think corporatism is plutocratic, then you might as well merge your definitions of corporatism and capitalism. the difference between what happened under fascist states and what is supposed to happen under a free market is that the government took a lot of money from the people and the big corporations could bribe the government to get that money in one way or another.
odunne2 1 month ago
@odunne2 corporatism is no where near plutocratic...
"corporatism, Italian corporativismo, also called corporativism, the theory and practice of organizing society into “corporations” subordinate to the state. According to corporatist theory, workers and employers would be organized into industrial and professional corporations serving as organs of political representation and controlling to a large extent the persons and activities within their jurisdiction."
(Encyclopedia Britannica)
Hinrichten 1 month ago
@odunne2 I agree that fascism and stalinism had many similarities, and Leninism is to a various degree totalitarian, but USSR was in no way communist. It called itself socialist, but was practically strongly anti-socialist. Remember that Mussolini also said that fascism was socialism turned on its head. People also forget that socialism is really an offshoot of classical liberalism, and that you can just as well call Adam Smith a spokeperson for socialism as Karl Marx.
RSFO 1 month ago
@RSFO yeah maybe. i think you and hinrichten are both using technical definitions. it reminds me of people who say that what we order at pizza hut is not pizza because true pizza is the first ever usage of the term, which is some weird looking thing they make in italy. but marx did originally support the soviet form of government. unlike others like bakunin, so if it's not communism, then you have to admit there was a flaw in marx's theories.
odunne2 1 month ago
@odunne2 Not even Marx supported what Lenin did. Remember that the left Marxists like Rosa Luxemburg and Antonie Pannekoek were *very* critical of Lenin. Rosa Luxembourg even wrote an article in 1904 to emphasize the difference between Leninism and Marxism. Marx also became more anarchist after he wrote The Communist Manifesto. Truly this manifest was flawed. But in any ideology it is not a person that is the guide, but the scientific method.
RSFO 1 month ago
@RSFO I don't agree with your analogy, btw. It was an honest blow against newspeak to restore the meaning of words. The meaning of words change, but they should only change when we find a better definition. We should be careful not to turn any ism into a scapegoat. That is why George Orwell told us that we should recognise the good in even fascism. Otherwise we might just exactly get everything which is bad in fascism one way or another.
RSFO 1 month ago
@RSFO Also, I identify the scientific method within a non-dualist and evolutionary sense as Charles S. Peirce did. As quoted off from Wikipedia: "The scientific method - the method wherein inquiry regards itself as fallible and purposely tests itself and criticizes, corrects, and improves itself." I don't really care what you call it, as long as the spirit is the same. It is eternally evolutionary in any sense.
RSFO 1 month ago
American Republican party have fascist tendencies, except for the few libertarians like Ron Paul
jayBredd 2 months ago
what a bunch of bullshit.
600trillion 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
Expansionism,militarism,right-wing extremism,national romanticism,ethnocentrism (xenophobia,anti-minority,anti-immigrant,othering,hatred,discrimination,racism),assimilation,anti-internationalism,anti-Semitism,Islamophobia,homophobia,conservatism,religious extremism,religious fanaticism,traditionalism,anti-secular,excessive centralization,despotism,totalitarianism,anti-labor,collectivism,authoritarian corporatism and the dictatorship of capital = FASCISM
teoman0707 2 months ago
Facsism= The merger of corporate and state powers used to legislate law, often using alliences of religious and or military institutions to quell dissent.
Socialism=An economic model where the workers of a society control the means of production i.e.worker owned and invested companies and factories.
KearaJay 2 months ago
How did I miss this clip
frandeig66 2 months ago
So what should we do with all the Jesus lovin nazis maybe we should kill em all or better yet Crucify em ya thats the ticket.
MrNewkingjames 3 months ago
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Easleytee 3 months ago
I am an atheist but I don't like Harris.
I think he is a Zionist Neocon !
Octopus0051 3 months ago
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@Octopus0051 See: "The Obama Deception" ( All POTUS are puppets). Hear what KRS ONE and Professor Griff have to say on the subject.,
Then see "Freedom to Fascism", "The President Who told The Truth", "NWO, Secret Societies and Biblical Prophecy", "Aquarius, Age of Evil", "Juri Lina" In The Shadow of Hermes", and "THRIVE-Full Length movie".
You are way behind the pack.
BTW, Marx, Engels , Trotsky and Lenin were all practicing Satanists, not "atheists". Look it up!
1tonykirk 3 months ago
Lol, people who think capitalism is naturally inclined towards fascism, are the people who've never read a book on economics. Chris Hedges is a tool.
sheepOG 3 months ago
@sheepOG crony capitalism leads to fascism, real capitalism is about people interacting and participating in their economy without infringement by private monopolies *and* state monopolies.
Hinrichten 3 months ago
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@Hinrichten Well said. What is erased from our History Books is things like John D Rockefeller's quote that "Competition is a Sin". It was taken as joke, it wasn't.
John D bribed the Politicians in Delaware and New Jersey (And set the rest of the Country to follow) all Corporations were once required to apply for re-chartering approximately every 10 years or so.
The criteria to meet for approval to renew the Charter was to prove that they were operating in the Public's best interest. Gone!
1tonykirk 3 months ago
@sheepOG Well said. What is erased from our History Books is things like John D Rockefeller's quote that "Competition is a Sin". It was taken as joke, it wasn't.
John D bribed the Politicians in Delaware and New Jersey (And set the rest of the Country to follow) all Corporations were once required to apply for re-chartering approximately every 10 years or so.
The criteria to meet for approval to renew the Charter was to prove that they were operating in the Public's best interest. Gone!
1tonykirk 3 months ago 6
I highly recommend that anyone who reads this post also read The Doctrine of Fascism. It has great philosophical depth and might change how many of you actually view Fascism. I DARE you to read that work because it blatantly counters today's conception of what fascism even is. I don't necessarily agree with fascism, but Chris doesn't even know what Fascism is. The Italian Fascists explicitly state that they want to promote art, culture AND intellectual inquiry. Mussolini wasn't racist either.
TheDavid2222 4 months ago 2
@TheDavid2222 It was Hitler that was the racist. I remember he even said the Italian people were "impure" because "their blood was tainted by negros from africa".
The anti-Comintern pact was strictly realpolitik, there was absolutely no friendship in that relationship.
Hinrichten 3 months ago
@Hinrichten Good points. I couldn't disagree with you here :)
TheDavid2222 3 months ago
@TheDavid2222 Tell it to H.I.M. Haile Sellassie I and Ethiopia. I am sure Ethiopia is interested in your views on 'fascism' - no more than greed and violence capturing supposedly democratic power. I am a fan of informed consensus and responsible authority. I see none of that in 'the west' today outside the 'fringe left'. Until 'Christians' abide by Christ's own radical socialism and overthrow the money changers nothing will change while the rich employs the poor as professional 'warriors'.
SmileyGarrish 3 months ago
@TheDavid2222 That is true, as I had to read it for research, and it could easily be summed up as the state takes the level of a spiritual entity promoted by/through art, entertainment, all forms of service, military action, even religion.
Chris has no idea what he's talking about.
Iisdabest889 3 months ago
@TheDavid2222 BLESS YOU! You have greatly spread the knowledge of what I am proud to say my Ideology! Everyone in my school respects me because they know I support true fascism and not the nazi cover up!
LiveJoyDivision 5 days ago
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TheDavid2222 4 months ago
It can be unpleasant to expose the falsehoods exhibited by delusional minds. People become so desperate that they will succumb to fantasy, perpetuated by egomaniacs, in order to maintain some sort of control over their sanity. The leaders of the religious right are not in love with Jesus; they are in love with mammon.
Triplezero13999 4 months ago
The O'leary interview happened two weeks ago. And, I'm pretty sure he's not implying that Christianity is failing as a whole, he's saying that Dominionists have created something that is a distorted unreality.
8djmc 4 months ago
Was this interview before or after the O'Leary interview?
NicePlaylist 4 months ago
This man speaks the truth extemporaneously in the most concise way possible. It is a joy to hear him speak.
Itseasyifyoutry 4 months ago
Christianity fails again. What a surprise!
twistswitch 4 months ago
This guy just chose the term Fascism instead of Authoritarian or Utopian in the title of his book for shock value. His "explanation" for the use of the term, (particularly between 1:24 and 3:00) is messy and close to the absurd. Fascism, like Communism, are ideologies with attached economical programmes, not words you should just conjure for effect.
theantisauronist 5 months ago
fact - Capitalism is naturally inclined towards Fascism....it was only a matter of time.....fact - it took 80 odd years for Capitalism to direct enough state violence towards Socialism to destroy it and memory of it. But the desire to help others and organize others to do so with the state is an old idea. We shall keep trying until we get it right. Water, Food, Shelter for all. After that the answers shall unfold.
SmileyGarrish 6 months ago 6
@SmileyGarrish That social democracy movement in Germany and Italy prior to the rise of fascism was just a fluke right, if it had been socialism it would have been so much better - like the Soviet union right ?
We would all be so much better off if we were socialists because that never leads to fascism:
except
FACT: every case of state level fascism has come from a socialist society
rrmackay 4 months ago
@rrmackay sorry false premise on your part - typically rewriting history to feed a capitalist utopia: the social democracies were in fact 'overthrown' via violence and covert corporate control of government mechanisms as soon as their success became obvious to elites and those same elites were able to mobilize and finance their Black and Brownshirt thugs. What colour shirt do you wear?
SmileyGarrish 4 months ago
@SmileyGarrish Let me get this straight, as soon as the social democracies were successful of what - dominating the people ? Hitler didn't need to have some major take over of the social democratic party in Germany, it was a nothing more than a shift of blame, Hitler also used "blaming the rich jews" as the central theme of his rallying cry, just like the OWS today. Zeig heil Gitler - down with the rich! I dont wear a shirt unless I am being paid to work.
rrmackay 4 months ago
@rrmackay I should add that no one here proposes destruction/violence against 'The Rich' not at all. The wealth is required. Peaceful Socialists NOW want to see sharing and caring as the government obligations they once were being reinstated to lay groundwork for responsible people helping each other free of religious bias and hatred. The rampant personal materialism must now be bridled with a 'social tax' let us face it. Without reason to support the state, no support persists - status quo.
SmileyGarrish 4 months ago
@SmileyGarrish And you are willing to use violence and coercion against me to achieve your egalitarian ends? Are you willing to hold a gun to my head or threaten me with jail-time if I refuse to support your socialistic plans ?
rrmackay 4 months ago
@rrmackay You must view the world from a one way mirror - violence and coercion are used continually to destroy 'egalitarian ends'. People like you hold guns and tear gas and dogs over the weak, poor, sick and homeless of this world, and USE THEM whenever someone approaches the mere idea of distributing society's wealth equitably amongst all fellow humans. If you deny anyone water food and shelter you are not only fascist but inhumane. That is the world we see today. Malicious, greedy, violent.
SmileyGarrish 4 months ago
@SmileyGarrish Violence and coercion are almost exclusively the domain of the state, the government is the only entity allowed to use violence without repercussions. Don't caste me as one of the oppressors I am certainly not one. Do you disagree that you would have government take my money with the intent of using to distribute to other s in society ? Government would take my money at the point of a gun, so you are advocating state violence towards me to achieve your concept of social justice!
rrmackay 4 months ago
@rrmackay Methinks you obsess about 'money': I am more interested in civil co operation and progressive consensus, tinged with humanity. Some call it democratic socialism.
SmileyGarrish 4 months ago
@SmileyGarrish See: "The Obama Deception" ( All POTUS are puppets). Hear what KRS ONE and Professor Griff have to say on the subject.,
Then see "Freedom to Fascism", "The President Who told The Truth", "NWO, Secret Societies and Biblical Prophecy", "Aquarius, Age of Evil", "Juri Lina" In The Shadow of Hermes", and "THRIVE-Full Length movie".
You are way behind the pack.
BTW, Marx, Engels , Trotsky and Lenin were all practicing Satanists, not "atheists". Look it up!
1tonykirk 3 months ago
@SmileyGarrish capitalism is NOT inclined towards fascism. Corporatism IS. Does capitalism have subsidies, banker bailouts (corporate welfare), tax breaks for the richest, over regulation with regulation breaks to the biggest, government involvement in buisness, and an inflationary currency.?? NO, that meats the deffinition of a corporatist economy. Which is the type of economy used by Mussolini to move Italy to fascism, and what america really has.
paulksycki 3 months ago
@paulksycki You may miss the historical context. Fascists have ruled England since the Industrial Revolution. Fascists have ruled the two headed military dictatorship call The USA since at least 1776. America is an example of rich white people combatting other rich white people to control the economy, the people and the country, and now The World. Fascism includes an intellectual disconnection at the highest offices in which the inbred rich and powerful dominate all others for their own gain.
SmileyGarrish 3 months ago
@paulksycki Well said. What is erased from our History Books is things like John D Rockefeller's quote that "Competition is a Sin". It was taken as joke, it wasn't.
John D bribed the Politicians in Delaware and New Jersey (And set the rest of the Country to follow) all Corporations were once required to apply for re-chartering approximately every 10 years or so.
The criteria to meet for approval to renew the Charter was to prove that they were operating in the Public's best interest. Gone!
1tonykirk 3 months ago
@SmileyGarrish Nice job of self programming. If you're gonna walk around with a bag on your head, at least cut some "eye" holes in it! LOL!
1tonykirk 3 months ago
@SmileyGarrish For a "capitalist" country Fascist Italy sure as hell had a lot of control over the economy.
"Unlike the Capitalist economies, Dirigisme was implemented by the government as a permanent solution rather than a temporary one to keep the economy stable during the war. After the Great Depression, the government owned and controlled three quarters of its industry, and had no intention of relinquishing its hold IE Alfa Romeo was state owned even after the collapse of Fascist Italy."
Iisdabest889 3 months ago
"One is either a German or a Christian. You cannot be both."
"We do not want any other god than Germany itself. It is essential to have fanatical faith and hope and love in and for Germany." - Adolf Hitler.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Source? Those sound like apocryphal quotes.
spartan2600 7 months ago
@spartan2600 Source? Many. Google it.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 If you're convinced people like Franco weren't Fascist, then you are well outside the realm of accepted disagreement. You're saying Orwell, Umberto Eco, Lawrence Britt and other experts on Fascism were wrong. Your idea of Facsism sounds like one tailored to divert blame from any Christian person or belief. You missatributed quotes, and the ones that are correct are cherry-picked (for example, you ignore Mein Kampf whenever discussing Hitler).
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 I suggest you study fascism for yourself and then study Franco's regime. There were key differences IE expansionism, relation to the Church, his conservatism and even his economic policy to a certain extent. Most MODERN historians don't consider a Franco to be a fascist anymore.
Mein-kampf wasn't a private publication. In schools it replaced the Bible.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 When Hitler arrested those Catholics, it was for dissent, not for their Catholicism. That is the key distinction- they may well have been intellectuals or bakers.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 Officially, it was for that. As both Nazi Germany AND Fascist Italy were NOT anti clerical states, the ideologies were. For example, the Blackshirts before Mussolini came to power targeted socialists, marxists, aristocrats and catholics alike.
Same with Occupied Poland, while the Nazis were not officially anti clerical by law, many of the clergymen were arrested under false charges or were framed (though some did resist the Nazis outright).
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 The first quote you have is not from Hiter, its from Hermann Rauschning, one of Hitler's friends, but he wasn't speaking for Hitler. You are either being dishonest, or you just don't care. The other quote is in Konrad Heiden's autobiography of Hitler, but isn't backed up by any other sources.
On the other hand, Hitler cites and re-affirms the legitimacy of Christianity with quotes from the Bible, but there is no doubting that Mein Kampf was indeed Hitler's.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 ""You see, it's been our misfortune to have the wrong religion. Why didn't we have the religion of the Japanese, who regard sacrifice for the Fatherland as the highest good? The Mohammedan religion too would have been much more compatible to us than Christianity. Why did it have to be Christianity with its meekness and flabbiness?" -- Adolf Hitler.
So are you suggesting that what Hitler said in Public was the truth, but what he said in Private was a lie?
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Also, the nation of Germany was overwhelmingly Christian- both Lutheran and Catholic, and both churches competed with each other to see who could please Hitler more (they wanted more power over Germans, of course). I think it says something about a religion that a nation of 78 million, mostly Christian, would willingly serve the Fascist state and carry out genocide. Also, if you would suggest Francisco Franco wasn't a Fascist, you really are on the lunatic fringe.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 When did this happen? A lot of Church property was confiscated from the Nazis, religious education was closed down, and the Reich Church which followed positive Christianity was meant to have control over them all (sound familiar? Communist China, anyone?).
If you think Franco was a Fascist, I suggest you learn what fascism is.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Franco's political party and his base of support were the Carlist party, which was right-wing, traditionalist and monarchist, and the Falange, which was an indisputably Fascist party. When Franco took over the Falange, he got rid of the one difference between the Falange and Mussolini-style Fascism- the Falange was originally syndicalist.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 Franco's PARTY, the Falange, was ORIGINALLY fascist. It called for land reforms for the peasants and redistribution of wealth, and syndicalism, but this was disbanded under Franco.
Also, fascism is a REPUBLICAN & REVOLUTIONARY form of nationalism, which in the end is meant to replace religion. Franco SUPPORTED the monarchy, was conservative, and SUPPORTED the Catholic Church.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@spartan2600 He may have been a dictator, but that did not make him a Fascist at all. Clearly, you don't know much about fascism because it is an EXPANSIONIST ideology also calling for a CULTURAL REVOLUTION. Franco believed merely that "Spain was for Spaniards" and that was that, let alone cultural conservatism.
The Lateran pact in Italy gave Mussolini support, but it also meant the Church could not speak out against his actions later on. Franco didn't worry about displeasing the Church.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@spartan2600 Hitler had the same problem with the Church, but when his actions were spoken against quite a few Catholic Convents were shut down as a result of government suppression, and church property was seized in certain areas.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Honest question, you can never know on youtube, but, lisdabest889, are you a Fascist?
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 I understand what you mean, but no. I am not. However, at school I did do my extended essay and a history internal on Fascism.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
I've been watching the dominionist Christians for some time and this guy nails it for what it is.
MacNutz2 7 months ago 17
all you gotta do is look at the ideology of the christian right,,the ideology is close to nazism and its also akin to sharia law,to deny science ,to deny reproductive rights or equal rights, to censor opposing ideas,to rely on goverment and military to police morality,extreme hatred and attack on diversity in society,I could go on and on
fraterlucifer888 7 months ago
@fraterlucifer888 Elaborate please.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@44foreheads wtf have u looked up fascism dude. fascists hate commies. communists are extreme left.
Mcsqweezy 7 months ago
@Mcsqweezy Rubbish. Fascists hate anyone who either opposes or rivals their power. Stalin killed more Communists than Hitler did, and Stalin wasn't considered a fascist! Think of it like protestants and Catholics... in the end they're still Christian.
I mean, if you think calling fascism left wing is weird, calling it right wing is just insane! I mean, right wingers who support a controlled economy, oppose individualism, anti clericalism and anti capitalism?
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Generally the right-wing is associated with capitalism, heirarchy, traditionalism and religion, and Fascism has all those things to an extreme. Also, I don't think you can count causing some people to die from starvation to be the same as "killing." No doubt Stalin was terrible, but he didn't kill more people living in the USSR (not necessarily 'communists") than the German army. In fact, no nation lost more people during WWII than the USSR.
spartan2600 7 months ago
@spartan2600 "We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." - Adolf Hitler.
The amount of Control the Fascists put over industry makes calling Fascism "capitalist" moronic.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 The Marxist definition of capitalism includes Fascist states. The only difference between typical capitalist states and Fascist ones is an *increased* cooperation between state and industry. Note I say *increased,* all capitalist ventures requires state cooperation to some degree.
Also, Hitler appealed to socialists since they were a large sector of the population.
If Hitler said he's socialist and you believe him, do you also believe Lenin when he said he was for "democracy?"
spartan2600 7 months ago
@spartan2600 The Objectivist definition of socialism includes Fascist states too.
Oh.. I don't think forcing businesses to serve the interests of the state even when it means profit loss would be considered "cooperation". The term is "coercion", which capitalism opposes. Nor do I think that forcing big businessmen to use their profits and assets to serve the state IE Krupp is exactly "cooperation".
I believe hitler was a socialist the same way you believe he is a Christian.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Capitalism always required state control of some aspects of the economy from even before it was capitalism- the proto-capitalist mercantilism economy in England saw the cooperation between the crown and the English East India Company. If the Fascist state took control of some capitalist businesses, it was for the benefit of the whole, Hegel's organic unity. If Krupp had to give up some private control it was so that the rest of the capitalist enterprise could profit.
spartan2600 7 months ago
@spartan2600 There was no "capitalist enterprise" after the national socialists took power, it was only the state. Profit and production alike didn't serve or benefit the businessmen in anyway, which is why Germany was outproduced by the West; businessmen didn't have the incentive to work hard as they wouldn't benefit. That's one of the biggest arguments the right has against socialism, I'm surprised they don't bring up Germany as often.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 This is why businesses in America loved Fascism and hated socialism. Fascism gave businesses elevated and privileged status. IBM, Coca-Cola and hundreds of other corporations and businesses flooded Germany with investment money after Hitler took power. Perhaps you will next make the argument that IBM is really a "socialist" entity.
spartan2600 7 months ago
@spartan2600 National Socialism appealed to workers, businessmen, industrialists, agriculturalists and the like, as the ideology was meant to appeal to ALL.
The branches of these international companies were not under international control! Hitler was TOTALITARIAN, and OPPOSED foreign powers controlling germany. Then Coca cola branch was still controlled like all the others, but it allowed money to come into the country.
State control of industry is a form of socialism.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 I don't consider the USSR communist or socialist- as do many millions of others including those involved in the Hungarian and Czech uprisings. The USSR represented state capitalism.
Also, having only one trait of the right wing doesn't make someone entirely right-wing. There are shades of gray. Ho Chi Minh was a nationalist, but not most of the other things the right represents.
spartan2600 7 months ago
@spartan2600 If the USSR is considered right wing, then maybe fascism could be as well. But if one defines socialism as state control of industry, then both the USSR and Nazi Germany were socialist.
Not anarcho socialism, with worker control, I mean state direction and tight controls on the economy.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 You can pick out a quote or a symbolic act here or there, but it doesn't change the fact that the right is overwhelmingly pro-religion. The left is more mixed. Many Asian and East European communists were explicitly atheist. On the other hand, most of the socialists Central and South America believe in liberation theology, and the Kibbutz in Israel were run by practicing Jews from Germany. The worker-run factories in Yugoslavia and 1930's Spain would've been mixed atheist-Christian
spartan2600 7 months ago
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Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@spartan2600 I don't deny the right is overwhelmingly more religious, I deny that atheist figures like Mussolini, or just anti Christian heads like Hitler would be considered "right wing" when the modern right seems to oppose everything they stood for.
For example, the modern right wing opposes taxation and government interference of churches but supports a free market, gun rights, religion in schools, etc. Fascism is the opposite in these instances.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Hitler was not "anti Christian," he was extremely pro Christian. Hitler was raised a Catholic and never renounced his faith, nor did the Catholic church ever admonish him while Hitler was alive. Also, the right SAYS that they're against taxes and government, but they aren't- or at least they aren't in practice. Republicans always create the biggest deficits, are pro-military and pro-government intervention. Also, Hitler supported the gun rights of Germans.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 "Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure." -- Adolf Hitler, 10 October, 1941.
"There is something very unhealthy about Christianity." -- Adolf Hitler, 9 April, 1942.
Yet, you claim that what Hitler said in his speeches was the TRUTH? Hitler said he was a socialist, why do you say he was lying then but not when it came to Christianity?
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Musslolini may have been anti-clerical, but Hitler used Bible quotes in his speeches and the Lutheran and Catholics fell over themselves to court favor with Hitler. The 3rd most important Fascist in history, Francisco Franco was a strident Catholic. That 2 out of 3 Fascists who were very pro-religion.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 Francisco Franco wasn't even a fascist. He was a conservative authoritarian. Fascism is expansionist, controls religion and economics, controls the press, eliminates opposition and is revolutionary. Franco restored the church but didn't control it like Stalin and Hitler did, he did set up trade barriers and big regulations, but didn't take over industry, he wanted to go back to the old days rather than revolutionise, and was NOT an imperialist!
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@spartan2600 Both Mussolini and Hitler realized it would be foolish to directly attack the church, and suffered the same problems many of the communist dictators came across. Mussolini signed the Lateran Pact with the Church, but did threaten it whenever it spoke out against his regime.
Hitler himself closed down catholic schools, removed mandatory prayer, suppressed the churches, killed 19% of the Polish clergy, yet was supposedly a "christian".
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
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SmileyGarrish 6 months ago
@Iisdabest889 "I'm surprised they don't bring up Germany as often."
That's because everything you think you know about the Nazi's and capitalism is dead wrong. Foreign capital and American corporations (like IBM, Chrysler and Coca Cola) flooded into Germany after Hitler took over. You really are utterly ignorant of the entire history of the Nazis. Read any reputable work on the history and turn off the Glenn Beck.
spartan2600 6 months ago
@spartan2600 You really are utterly ignorant of history, aren't you?! Socialism is government control of the means of production, and even the American companies were subject to the regulations and contracts german industry faced.
Krupp, for example, was subsidized and made huge profits under Hitler's regime, but the executives were only allowed to use the profits to benefit the industry and the state, not themselves. Otherwise they were nationalized.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@spartan2600 It does not necessarily mean profit loss, it just means state control. Many industries in Europe are controlled by the government, but attract foreign private investors who make profits from them.
Iisdabest889 6 months ago
@spartan2600 Uh... you DO realize there was a heirachy in the USSR, right? And traditionalism can't be purely right wing, seeing as how LEFTISTS like Ho Chi Minh were vehement nationalists would be right wing by that definition.
And as for religion? Why did Hitler shut down Catholic schools (AFTER the pact with the Vatican), outlaw compulsory prayer in schools and control the churches?
And why did Stalin RE INTRODUCE the Russian Orthodox church, if religion is right wing only?
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@spartan2600 Oh yea, you know Mussolini? The FOUNDER of Fascism? Good luck trying to prove he wasn't an atheist. He was about as pro Christian as Stalin.
Ever heard of the Mexican Redshirts? The atheist paramilitary fascist organization that opened fire on people exiting mass?
If religion is right wing, fascism is not.
Iisdabest889 7 months ago
@Iisdabest889 Did you even watch the video? The Fascist identifiers Hedges quotes Umberto Echo on are straight from the religious right, and the non-religious right, like Ayn Rand (who worshipped manliness etc.).
spartan2600 7 months ago
the christian right is pushing for a 1950's theocracy.
UtopiaMinor666 7 months ago
I think Chris Hedges is biased from my listening to him in this session at least. I will listen to him in more and read him. Much of what he says is fallacious. I don't even see a new strain, the same elements and principals have always been present. This is trying to shift people away from real Fascism which is the business power and the state. Look at the people in government, look at their history(work and family income generations past). That is serious, he's distorting.
Ryukikon 8 months ago
@Ryukikon Yet you choose not to actually challenge anything he says.
cinesimonj 7 months ago
@cinesimonj
I think you are just trying to provoke some kind of argument. You use words like challenge what he says, I think you are looking to or expected voicing opinion to be something confrontantionary. I have voiced what I felt about Chris Hedges in this segment. I think that reading and comprehension go a long way. He makes many assertions in a9:43min interview and I have 500 characters to type, are you serious. Its call concision, I expressed my views in a concise way.
Ryukikon 7 months ago
teach creationism in Religious Studies and teach evolution in Science, and never the twain shall meet
itspetebruv 8 months ago
FASCISM IS HIDDEN RASSISM BECAUSE MONEY IS ALSO INVOLVED , ABOUT THE BYBEL KARPERVIS.TRIPOD.COM ABOUT BLOODLINE'S {AFTER 8000 YEARS EVOLUTION}
SnazzyService 8 months ago
Chris Hedges is so so articulate... an explosion of revealing, mindblowing good sense. Why are there No politicians like this? How can he possibly be American? I thought true American insight like this had died out with Norman Mailer? Thankfully I was wrong, wrong, wrong.
novadrian 8 months ago
Bo evil christians are going to get ya ! fear sells , eh ? What about libtards trying to shove their values up everyone throat ? that's totally kosher ?
sewagedweller 8 months ago
You Canadians need to chill...
TheLoyalOfficer 8 months ago
All fascists need to die
Cirvantes123 8 months ago
Hitler called his party the "National Socialists" and how that could be sold as a right wing agenda falls to the arms of propaganda, another of the CBC faithful's most evident specialties. Right up there with Global warming, "Second" or now "Third" hand smoke and pandemics by the dozen.
All disastrous, ever urgent and world ending as well.
Wolf! Wolf! Wolf!..
Today's fear is "Beware the cell phone", but they never mentioned the identical broadcast TV signals, measured in mega watts of power?
THEFXR 9 months ago
@THEFXR You're totally right about the Nazis being socialists (irony), that's why all the socialists and communists were the first to be sent to the concentration camps, right? As for the the name "National Socialists", "what's in a name? A rose by any other name would smell just as sweet." Having fun in your mom's basement you conspiracy nut? Happy trolls.
cossintan1 8 months ago
@cossintan1 If you read the Communist manifesto, you will see that Marx identified around a half dozen forms of socialism that he characterized as reactionary. Both Italian and German fascism promoted a primitive version of socialism centred around primitive notions of a community spirit (in germany, volkism and "blud und boden"). However, Hitler liquidated the socialist wing of the party as soon as he attained political power.
pirbird14 8 months ago
It's great to live in a country where atheism is tolerated and perhaps worshiped? or the politically corrected fashion statement of the day, and it is possible to elect a Communist or fascist regime, in spite of an entire system of government and law which was created in biblical stylization.
THEFXR 9 months ago
If people find peace with whatever they believe, and they live among us in mutual respect, there is no need to destroy the faith of others and spoil an inner happiness for them, in search of your own version of happiness. Live and let live and stop bashing the Christians, it only makes you look like a communist or worse, because there is no other logical justification for your extremist contempt.
"Your politics are unimportant, I have your children"
Adolph Hitler et al...
Lest we forget!
THEFXR 9 months ago
Fascism exists and it is housed in the UN and the oratory is in the form of the World Health Organization. ["New "research" shows" and "their needs to be a new law" to "Protect" other people's "helpless children"] at the end of the day, nothing has changed since the last time we experience the body purity mantra and the medico mafia, is again spewing their poison in hopes of finding dangerous freedoms for themselves, by the elimination of personal autonomy, while pointing a crooked finger.
THEFXR 9 months ago
I don't hold a lot of sway with televangelism, but isn't the current rendition presented by George, Christian Salomon or David Suzuki and any number of the politically devout, at the helm of our national broadcaster, simply [like the so called "medical treatments" they offer to help you quit smoking, with a 95% failure rate] a substitution of one bad habit with another?
THEFXR 9 months ago
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Hedges has no grasp of legitimate timelines. Far be it from the CBC or George, to understand that creationism predates all forms of modern day political leanings, including the fascist style, which is also misplaced as a far right leaning, when in fact it's primary support has always come from the extremes of the left.
THEFXR 9 months ago
Hedges has no grasp of legitimate timelines. Far be it from the CBC or George, to understand that creationism predates all forms of modern day political leanings, including the fascist style, which is also misplaced as a far right leaning, when in fact it's primary support has always come from the extremes of the left.
THEFXR 9 months ago
This guy is nothing but an alarmist and a fear monger. America is NOT going to be turned into a Christian state, theres too many who oppose that for it to gain serious support, dont eat this idiot's bullshit people.
MyDormantSoul 9 months ago
"war against modernism" as an "eternal principle of fascism" is an oxymoron.
History shows the strong links between the esthetic futuristic movement and European fascist movements.
The discussion/debate about "evolution" versus "creationism" is on a primitive level as well. I am tired of hearing about this stupid argument. It is obvious to me that the bible is not offering a literal timetable and the "theory" of evolution similarly cannot be called "truth" rather than investigation.
72Yonatan 10 months ago
Economic meltdown, huh? hmmmm....
SprocketPeeps 10 months ago
Great Interviews, too bad they call this leftist propaganda..
hank1972 10 months ago
communism is the extreme left and fascism is the extreme right.
Mcsqweezy 10 months ago
Chris Hedges is the second coming of Jesus Christ. :)
Voodoofreak35 11 months ago
Extreme Theist = Fascist?
Extreme Atheist = Communist?
Bearlizard777 11 months ago
@Bearlizard777 extreme atheist= communist? wth are you talking about? how could a DIS belief of a deity lead you to communism or to anything at all?!
gbortuhno 11 months ago 23
@gbortuhno You seriously don't get it?
Bearlizard777 11 months ago
Hardly any fascist in America. Just a name pansy, bedwettin' liberals call conservatives.
This guys a liberal from the depths of hell.
Plzzzr 11 months ago
War is a Racket---Major General Smedley Butler. Read this small book on line and you will understand our problem. Mr. Hedges is a talkinghead with no real solutions. Like one of our forefathers said-Let us not get involved in foreign entanglements. If we isolate and produce, we will or should I say, would have been, just fine. End all Fractional Banking! Kick the Elite Banksters out of our country. Usary free(service fee only) money is the answer.Study North Dakota Bank.
bebengry 1 year ago
How about we just stick to the use of the constitution that worked very well intill the fed came along in 1913 to take us were we are today. FACT!
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ibrahimali2009 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach Well I guess we both have points and we will never agree on anything. So...Cheers?
thestevester94 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach I happen to be in the American Fascist Movement. Have you ever thought the other ways of politics might be wrong?
tatetalk 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach 1) That's no communism then. That's Anarchy. Or least he idea of being without government. If that's what you are saying. If it isn't please correct me. 2) That's not the slightest true. No matter where you from wall street to the Kalahari Desert you will have competition and a survival of the fittest. That's life. If communism could work, that'd be fantastic. But unfortunately the human being is imperfect.
thestevester94 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach hurl rocks at the police for no damn reason. It just makes no sense.
thestevester94 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach You must believe in theoretical communism which is perfectly fine. I think it is the best system possible. One problem. It is IMPOSSIBLE. You are wasting your time. How is everyone equal when there is one supreme ruler? I'm not defending fascism by the way. If you see how every country takes communism they use it for evil. Communism will never work due to human nature. And the police almost never incite riots. I've police just stand watch of a protest then the protesters start to
thestevester94 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach Whats wrong with Fascism?
tatetalk 1 year ago
@TheLoveschach If oyu honestly think communist protesters really want rights and dignity for the common working people you are flat out stupid. And if you think violent riots are acceptable, then again you are flat out stupid.
thestevester94 1 year ago
Hedges spoke about the financial collapse before it happened. His detractors should take that one fact and sit on it.
iriisblue 1 year ago
Fascism is not a threat. Communism is a much bigger threat but I never hear that ruled out. Fascists are peaceful opposed to communists. Here in Italy, The communists start violent riots while Fascists have group meetings which cause no harm. This guy honestly doesn't know too much about what he is talking about.
thestevester94 1 year ago
Yeah.... there is no such thing as 'left' in the U.S.A.... It'll be interesting to see what happens with the future of that declining empire
Aikidopoi 1 year ago
Watch Marilyn Manson's "The Beautiful People".
blabblab1212 1 year ago
Great video!
blabblab1212 1 year ago
Keeping in mind that this was posted in 2007. Looks prescient today.
Jalans2 1 year ago
@orbis2009... I am one who bemoans the loss of genuine democracy. AND, I would accept such a deplorable decision as you suggest. However, in what context is such a ruling handed down? Is the populous sufficiently informed and educated before such a referendum is proposed? If not, then the criteria of thriving democracy is not sufficiently met, and the proposed scenario useless. Hence the continued bludgeoning of any organized form of populism prior to its expansion to the masses.
whitesoxwinner2005 1 year ago
read the book "the true believer".
and realize that any side you can currently take is wrong.
there is only a left or a right if you want to play into the oppressors hand.
whateveryouwantable 1 year ago
The fall of babylon. Not from money or power but religious influence.
Unrealll6666 1 year ago
Many on the political Left rightly bemoan the loss of genuine democracy in our political context in this nation. Certainly the powers are loathe to consult the people in direct referenda about the timely issues of the day. But would The Left ACCEPT the result of genuine referendums if, say, a majority of the people in the nation voted directly to ban abortion? or would they cry fascism & whine to the Black Robes to overturn the majority? What then becomes of their alleged love for democracy?
orbis2009 1 year ago
Thumbs up for this video
LaProfeVirtual 1 year ago