George Galloway praising United States of America (USA)

[ukpolemic]

It's hard for me to take Galloway seriously either way. He argues for the sake of arguing. If the man had phoned him supportive of the U.S., Galloway would have instinctively taken the opposing viewpoint and began bashing the USA. He pulls this with Israeli constantly. He'll stand there and condemn Israel in one breath and then call someone an anti-semite for suggesting they push back to their 1967 borders as part of a two-state solution. He's controversial for the mere sake of controversy.

[ukpolemic]

It's funny that geezers like that never think to accuse Canada of the same thing, or Australia's lost children or New Zealand and the Maori. Only the transgressions of the USA matter, all others are forgiven. Hypocritical rubbish.

[Lukege15]

I agree with the caller.

This shows a flaw in Galloway's personality, he won't address with the factors that won't support his arguments. He conviently looks over the Native Americans.

The caller is so right, it's not all about economy. The Native Americans had their populations destroyed, culture oppressed and have a shitty standard of life.

[yington]

Hahaha - this caller called Cuba "more successful than the USA" !!

In Cuba:

-There is no freedom of speech

-There is no freedom of political thought

-There is absolutely no democracy

-There is no freedom of media

-There is no freedom of movement

Oh - the health service! That sole idea based upon *government* and not independent statistics.

And everyone has a job? Tell that to the *500,000* government workers that Cuba just laid off.

I pity this moronic caller. What a fool.

[Lukege15]

@yington Ah. You are clearly the fool. The callers completely right (Galloway even agreed with him over Cuba), have you ever met a Native American?

They are still treated like blacks were in 1970s South Africa - a point conveintly looked over - even by you. In fact American Indians on both continents are the most wronged people in history, yet nothing will be done about it as it doesn't beneit people like you.

Patrotism is a dangerous thing.

[yington]

@Lukege15

You clearly didn't bother to read my post, before replying. Pity.

I speak of the claim from the caller that "Cuba is more successful than the USA". Obviously a ridiculous assertion.

In Cuba:

-There is no freedom of speech

-There is no freedom of political thought

-There is absolutely no democracy

-There is no freedom of press

-There is no freedom of movement

It is a totalitarian hell-hole that you should thank your lucky stars you don't have to live under.

[Lukege15]

@yington So the answer is you're brainwashed by the US education system? Sad.

Have you been to Cuba? I have. What you're talking about is utter BS, it's none of those things. The people are happy; have one the best healthcare systems in the world (to the extent they send their doctors to other LEDCs); tourism is booming and it's self-sustaining. Sure, over in the capitalist hellhole you live, Cuba isn't ideal; but they've been through a lot of shit (mostly due to the US) and have come through.

[yington]

@Lukege15

I'm not from the US, so there's ya first fail right there.

And yes, i've been to Cuba, I travelled the country for 3 weeks. People like you always expose the weakness of your argument by your immediate desire to spout out about the healthcare system - it's about the only thing you can actually say about Cuba that is positive - although the figures are only provided by the government, rather than independent organisations. But is that it? Healthcare is the end-all for a nation?

[Lukege15]

@yington 'I'm not from the US, so there's ya first fail right there' Are you 14 or something?

I immediately spouted on about the healthcare system? Are you one of these people that don't even read other's comments (you conviently ignored the topic of Native Americans also)? It was but one of my points - not even the first. I even provided evidence for your second argument, (Christ, I'm wasting my time with such an idiot) my evidence is from other nations which have been helped by Cuban doctors.

[yington]

@Lukege15

And what do you mean "the people are happy"? What on earth do you judge their happiness on? By their desire to be ever so nice to you because you happen to be a rich tourist in their country carrying hard currency?

I saw plenty of people like you in Cuba, rich tourists, who waltzed around having a wonderful time with your dollars / pounds / euros, as the people raised their smiles to you in order to raise that extra buck. And you come back, freely, and defend the dictatorship.

[Lukege15]

@yington How do I measure happiness? By meeting Cubans, and oh, if you want an objective view - the United Nations. Cuba is considered by the UN to be one of the happiest nations on Earth, far more than most 'Western' countries.

Dictatorship? The people fought for that government. Are you truly suggesting it should be the alternative? A US-backed dictator that cares nothing for their people's wellbeing.

[yington]

@Lukege15

Your reply about Lenin made me smile.It exposes your lack of knowledge on the subject of Communism. My point was not about whether or not Lenin would have approved of,or supported,Cuba-rather that Lenin had a description for the gullible,ignorant people of the West like you-"useful idiot"-look the phrase up. Lenin was a smart guy,and had people like you nailed down to the bone.

As for Native Americans,why would I comment on it -I never debated it,my whole point has been on Cuba.

[yington]

@Lukege15

I think the most cringeworthy thing you have said in response was this:

"Dictatorship? The people fought for that government. Are you truly suggesting it should be the alternative? A US-backed dictator that cares nothing for their people's wellbeing."

Is this how low you think of Cuba? It must either have a US-backed dictator, or a Castro style totalitarian dictatorship?

What about a free democracy?! Like Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru .. wow what a revolutionary idea, eh?

[Lukege15]

@yington I like how you've copied some of my phrases. Is English your second language?

Dude, you're a fool. You can't accept the evidence, and comments like,

'What about a free democracy?! Like Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru .. wow what a revolutionary idea, eh?', are laughable. Work on your South American studies. Many people in those countries are not 'free' and would jump on board the ideas put forward by communism.

Capitalism has another soldier in you, huh?

[yington]

@Lukege15

I copied your phrase to show you which part of your reply I was responding to? Goodness grief, I thought you were slow, but you really are damn useless.

Listen, you've already made it clear you've got a dreadful lack of intellect, and have very little understanding of the topic here. Please, i've no time for debating with you, so do run along, okay.

[Lukege15]

@yington ... You've misunderstood. Lol.

You clearly aren't as smart as you think you are, which is funny. Keep E-squirming freak. You're a sheep, you won't look at the evidence and, most importantly, haven' been to Cuba have you?

Idiot, probably haven't left France have you? Work on your education, English and having free-thought.

[yington]

@Lukege15

Why do you bother responding, let alone to say things like "look at the evidence"?

You've revealed no "evidence", responded to not a single point i've made,and frankly mate I know you're not capable to, okay.

No hard feelings, but you're really not clued up on much regarding politics or international affairs and i've better people to debate with. There's no point responding childish meaningless insults to me, they simply justify exactly what I am saying here.

Good luck.

[Lukege15]

@yington I bother responding because my inbox is full of your half baked arguments from you... plus, you're hilarious.

'There's no point responding childish meaningless insults to me, they simply justify exactly what I am saying here', have I missed something? I thought we were arguing about Cuba and the US, how does that justify your claims?

Let me make this clear: MY EVIDENCE INCLUDED U.N. SOURCES, TRAVEL EXPERIENCE, KNOWLEDGE OF SOUTH AMERICAN POLITICS. You blind? Or don't handle knowledge?

[yington]

@Lukege15

If you're going to waste mine and your time, by responding like this, at least humour yourself by actually attempting to reply to anything I wrote in the earlier long 4-5 post reply to you.

Otherwise, save your time please. You just make yourself look a serious half-wit.

[Lukege15]

@yington Haha, I'm not the only one that you have the ability of ticking off?

Do yourself a favor, look into the Native American (the people who matter) experience. See how 'great' capitalism has worked there. See how global warming is, not only going to destroy the US, but the world - then tell me Cuban self-sustainability is evil and damaging.

Fact is, you're scared of the truth and nothing but a hate-filled, uneducated, little man that is unable to fulfill is ego. You're a joke.

[yington]

@Lukege15

See what I mean? An inability to respond to anything written to you, and utterly meaningless & childish insults that show you to actually be a bit mentally unstable.

You're like a scruffy dog sniffing around my feet, pestering me. I don't want to play with you okay.

[Lukege15]

@yington Yet you respond. How's it like being a bitter middle-aged man, unable to discuss cordially with others on the internet all day. Awww :'(

I've been to Cuba, loved it, and I'm not the only one. The fact that you lied about going there ON TOP of not providing your own evidence (something which you seem to ignore when provided by others anyway) is fucking ridiculous.

All you spouted was American propaganda, you're a sheep... not a very successful one at that.

[yington]

@Lukege15

Of course you had a great time,so did I.We were tourists with hard currency,who could do as he pleased there.

Sadly, the facts don't change because of that.

-You are jailed for criticising the Cuba dictatorship, as freedom of speech is completely forbidden, as are other political parties.

-There is no freedom of press or media

-There is no freedom of movement inside Cuba

-They are forbidden to leave the country as tourists in order to see other parts of the world.

[yington]

@Lukege15

And telling me I "lied about going there" - dude, that's just weird, okay.

Particularly following a claim to wish to discuss things cordially. Think before you speak, okay.

[Lukege15]

@yington You're a liar. I'll leave it at that. I've already told you what's wrong with your 'argument'. You know what a shitty existence you have without being told.

P.S. Work on your English mate.

[yington]

@Lukege15

Well thank you then for conceding defeat on this topic, albeit if it was in your usual childish and mentally unstable manner.

Good luck.

[Lukege15]

@yington Nice English dictionary-use... and self-control lol. I thought you were tired of my pestering?

When did I concede defeat? In your fragile, little, arrogant mind? Quote me, go on, keep replying. You turned this into a throwing match of personal insults, rather than an actual discussion. Kudos.

Is it because you now you're wrong? Which parts of Cuba did you actually 'visit'?

P.S. Work on your reading skills. Good day...

[yington]

@Lukege15

When somebody (a) refuses to address a single point made, and (b) only responds to say weird, meaningless childish and frankly mentally unstable insults, then it's an indirect way for you to concede.

I am tired of you pestering me only to say insults, but I do genuinely pity you, and hence I respond just to hopefully help you see what it is that you are doing, so in future you can perhaps avoid this sort of behaviour.

Good luck.

[Lukege15]

@yington What?!? I addressed your points. Nothing more than propaganda, with no factual support. I brought personal experience and stats from the United Nations.

You pity me? Yet you respond? What is it Jean Paul, lonely tonight? At least I admit I enjoy making you squirm, rather than make out I'm superior.

You lied and know nothing about Cuba. That obviously makes you feel stupid, don't blame you.

I eagerly await your next empty 'Good luck' wish...

[yington]

@Lukege15

Addressed my points? Ok, of course you did my friend. :)

I have been responding, because of my pity for you, yes. I know it's a long shot for me to hope that you see your clear mental instability you project to me on each post, but I guess i'm an optimist sometimes.

Anyway - this will be my last reply.

So take care.

[yington]

@Lukege15

The facts about Cuba, and what it's citizens live under, are clear:

-You are jailed for criticising the Cuba dictatorship, as freedom of speech is completely forbidden, as are political parties.

-There is no freedom of press or media

-There is no freedom of movement (changing jobs, houses, or travelling around different towns is forbidden without prior government approval)

-They are forbidden to leave the country as tourists in order to see other parts of the world.

[yington]

@Lukege15

Now despite the clear totalitarian dictatorship that rules over the people,"useful idiots"(as Lenin put it) like you,are happy to defend Cuba's oppressive regime,despite the fact that not for a single day u would EVER wish to live under such conditions.

The right you have to debate this with me on Youtube,is forbidden to the ordinary Cuban.

The country crumbles to the extent that tourism is their only revenue.

Sadly,useful idiots like you,ignorantly defend this oppression.

[Lukege15]

@yington Sadly, you're an idiot who knows nothing about the subject. Why did you go to Cuba if you consider it Hell itself?

The fact is: the average Cuban is far happier and free than the average Native American. The caller was right, you'd do well to listen to those who have more knowledge on the subject.

[yington]

@Lukege15

Why did I go to Cuba?

Personal interest of course, the same reason everyone else goes. It's certainly not "hell itself" to me, hey i'm a European and my money goes a long way there. I could have lived like a king had I wanted, but that's not the reason I went.

Rather to travel the Island and see everything with my own eyes.

And like I said, I met plenty of useful idiots like yourself, who believed that the pleasure that their money bought them there reflected Cuba itself.

[Lukege15]

@yington Also, I just noticed you mentioned Lenin and laughed. Lenin would've loved Cuba, I hear he was rarther supportive of communism. Also, search the Happy Planet Index to see how 'unhappy' Cubans are.

YOUTUBE IS FORBIDDEN TO CUBANS?!? You're a fucking idiot. The only reason some won't be on Youtube is because of a lack of a computer - not political censorship. Goddamn, I wasted my time.

[yington]

@Lukege15

So to remind, I made some clear points about life for Cuban citizens which I will repeat for you, and to remind you what sort of a regime you ignorantly defend:

-You are jailed for criticising the Cuba dictatorship, as freedom of speech is completely forbidden, as are other political parties.

-There is no freedom of press or media

-There is no freedom of movement inside Cuba

-They are forbidden to leave the country as tourists in order to see other parts of the world.

[yington]

@Lukege15

These are simply the same basic liberties that no doubt you value (I would hope) and expect to have.

I support your right to those liberties, and support the citizens of Cuba to attain the same utterly basic human rights such as these, which are denied by a totalitarian government.

But, in all seriousness, I don't really think you know very much about this topic. You appear very much out of your depth, and i'm sure you're not really sure what it is you are defending here.

[yington]

Galloway has described the USA as "The Great Satan" on Press TV.

All this does is highlight his hypocrisy and capacity to bullshit to different audiences.

[BillKiernan]

"i think that cuba's more succesful." wow, what a completely assinine statement.

[cookiesncrack4tea]

Steven sounds like hes doin some sort of bizarre peter cooke impression

[Politicratos]

Very rare for Mr Galloway and I have over 100 videos of him lol. Very good point by George at the end.

[muslim610]

LOL @ 5:4

[spokrocks]

no, it seems Steven is though.