Very nice car :) I'm installing this turbo system on my C5 Z06, posted a video on it in my garage on my channel. I'm very proud of it and would love to have a couple of views. Please like so people can view my video :) Thanks a lot !
Sind die STS Turbos ohne weiteres beim Tüv eintragbar??Was braucht man alles dafür?? Würde mir sowas für meinen Nissan 350Z importieren. Der Tüv würde sich doch die Augen reiben wenn er sowas sehen würde!
wow this is one nasty vette. STS are making some really cool kits. I like that the turbos are mounted in back saving a lot of labor time and just making things a lot easier. Thanks for posting the vid ,was awesome seeing what a tt vette is like.
thinking about doing sts turbos. making around 530 hp at the engine is that good or could i do more because i dont want to blow the engine for my 2000 C5
The dyno for that run was a german MAHA3000. Those numbers are usually lower than on e.g. a DynoJet . HighBoost mode can be done via a computer. There are several options - one boost level, two boost levels and seamless boostvariation...
You are right about that - the A4s do not hold up as good as the M6s. Especially in HighSpeed situations you can run into problems. Additional oilcooler for tranny will help, but I would strengthen the rearend on an a4, too.
Its called a diverter valve. Thats what joeshmoe was describing. It relieves the pressure buildup from the intake plumbing and redirects it the the intake of the turbo compressor. Little to no noise except for turbo spooling. Thats what Marc99GT has and he thinks he doesnt need intake pressure protection if he has an auto trans.
Scroll down and you will see the Silver Turbocharged 99 GT Auto that ran 10s on the bone stock longblock. I was wearing my jacket from the Mercedes Benz dealer where I worked.
The MAF will not read rich on every vehicle. It never caused my GN a problem or my Mustang and both used MAF sensors and not MAP sensors. I didn't suggest that you remove anything, I was just stating a fact. Like I said, the turbo in my GN survived 19 years with no bov, but it also didn't need 20+ psi to make decent power.
As far as my claims, I have better things to do than BS strangers on a site. If you look up the Going thing MM&FF on Yahoo, you will see my car and me in the magazine.
You are 100% absolutely wrong. I owned and built Grand Nationals and they do not have a Blow off valve. My stock turbo was 19 years old when I sold it. The Typhoon, Syclone and 89 Turbo trans am did not either.
You don't know anything about these cars apparently. I owned and raced a 10 second turbocharged 99 GT auto and it never had a blow off valve for 3 years that I raced it. it takes years to damage a turbo if it does at all.
The throttle plate never closes between shifts in an auto so it has no effect on performance. With a manual, when you shift, you are lifting out of the throttle and the back pressure will return to the compressor slowing the wheel down causing severe turbo lag. Few if any factory turbo cars ever produced, with an automatic, ever came with a BOV.
Yes it releases extra boost but your not gona blow your engine without one. It is to prevent back pressure from building up ( in the turbo ) which could blow the turbo... Worst case scenario you go through turbos like crazy. : )
Also it is mainly needed by manual cars because boost drops between shifts and the back pressure would slow the compressor wheel down causing serious lag. With an automatic, it's not necessary at all. I owned a turbocharged 99 GT and an 87 Grand National. Ran both with big boost and no BOV for years.
On a stock turbo setup thats ok. But if you get into modifying the car, bigger turbo ect... compressor surge can cause the engine to shut down when you come to a stop unless you shift to neutral, and will eventually kill the turbo. It is good to have one, But not to mention the sweet sound it makes between shifts and when you release the throttle while boosting. It sounds wrong on a V8 tho.
I never put one on my turbocharged 99 GT that ran 10.90s on 93 octane with a T-76. I ran the car for 3 years and it never stalled once. My 87 Grand National with a PT61 at 20 psi never had one either. With an automatic, it is not necessary at all. I personally don't like the sound and will not put on one on my next project car either.
WRONG! You're right about one thing tho. The GN doesnt come with a BOV, IT COMES WITH A DIVERTER VALVE!!!! It serves the same purpose but silently. Shifting gears wouldnt cause lag with a manual trans unless your gears are so long that you go from 7Krpm to 1500rpm. A BOV relieves pressure buildup in the intake. When the throttle plate closes the momentum of the turbo shaft, comp wheel, and turbine(spinning approx 100k rpm) needs to slow down. This is called, as supra descibed, compressor surge.
You are 100% wrong. I owned an 87 GN and built it from the ground up including replacing the shortblock in my garage. Please don't attempt to tell me what a GN comes with. I worked on a few of them and there is no diverter valve or blow off valve. In an automatic, the throttle never closes going through gears so there is zero boost loss. The surge only occurs when you get out of the throttle. No impact on performance. With a manual, you will always lose some boost between shifts.
Actually after doing a little more research, I found that you're partially right! It utilizes a mechanism which opens the waste gate to relieve surge. However, your theory on a BOV being designed for manual trans cars is still incorrect. Maybe you should get a hold of an online service manual and look up "Description and Operation." These manufacturers design cars to last, they would not risk blowing the intake pluming to pieces. As intelligent as u seem, im surprized you woundnt realize that.
i just hate the the BOV sound. id route it back into the intake somehow to quiet it down some. that maybe kinda hard though with the rear mount system.
What is it with people and K&N filters? News flash, THE SHITS TURBOED. I seriously doubt that after installing a $14k turbo kit, he would retro fit the kit to get the damn OEM air filter on the car. An oil soaked gauze doesnt even allow that much more power to be made. Your lookin at 4hp if your lucky.
there is almost no lag with those since they are mounted at the back, there is a bit more time for exhaust pressure to build up in the pipes before it reaches the turbine
you knoe thats not the tires chirping after shifts on the inside car view right... that would be the blow off/ext. wastegate from the built up boost...i know the car could easily chirp them but its not in this vid...
Ok.. this thing is bad ass but i got a serious question how the hell do u get rid of turbo lag mounting the turbos that far away from the intake manifold? In addition is it even safe having ur turbos that close to the floor for a daily driven car? one more question where would u mount your intercooler?
Turbo Lag Primarly comes from Turbo Size.Bigger turbo = more lag.The tubo piping is pressurized so the extra piping doesnt effect respone. The turbos ussually replace the factory muffler system. The IC is mounted up front like most but only needed for high boost. Air rolls of the turbos which keeps them cooler than average turbos. And the only concerns about this system is water getting into the intake if its not mounted high enough back there. Other than that. No worries at all.
The turbo lag ist overruled by the diameter and airflowspeed in the piping / It is safe to mount them back there - the ceramic coating prevents them from cracking even when they´re splashed with water during extreme use / The intercooler is mounted up front - in front of the regular radiator
The TEUV sucks, but hey, I guess you got to do what you got to do. They failed me with my B & B BUllets exhaust for no mufflers. I failed, installed a new system to pass, and when I drove home, I changed the exhaust BACK to my Bullets until the next inspection. Man I miss Germany!
That´s correct! The Exhaust Turbines are only about 30cm from the exhaust tip. Therefore the spool up is very prominent. Even inside the vehicle. Much fun!
Your car is a monster! I can't believe the pull in it! A lot of people say STS are a bunch of liars because although you get a great dyno/no lag, they say in high gears it doesn't have the pick up as a normal turbo does. How would you rate their product? Also how much was the cost to install?
I would rate it 10/10. It is right what I needed. I checked on all available systems - and a little modified STS System was the perfect choice for the requirements in Germany...
Holy Dog shit, when I heard that damn thing there is no way in hell I would even think about trying to run with it. Vette+ rearmountturbos= your ass beening handed to you.
I just bought a C5 myself and was looking into this system, from what i have read about it, it would seem that it is almost a bolt on application, which seems very unconventional to me. Usually with turbos one would need to lower compression and beef up internals etc, how much actual internal mod work was required for this? Great video, the sound it outstanding, and what a beautiful vette!
Well, you are right about the engine mods - at least if you want to use a higher boost level. The basic system is a twin turbo running at 5psi. For that amount of boost you can run on the stock engine. If you want to crank up your boost, though - e.g. 8+psi you should rework your engine for a lower compression ratio and stronger valve springs and so on.
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the LS1 have a lower compression ratio than the LS6? so it would handle boost a little better, and the all alluminum engine wont knock as soon as an all iron setup?
The LS1 has a lower compression ratio, but weaker springs and cheaper valves/stems this is their major limiting factor.
You can get more PSI with the LS1, but the LS6 is going to more than likely still make more power, an extra 500-600 rpms as well(been awhile since I drove an LS1). Upgrade your valvetrain and level the playing field.
As far as aluminum reducing chances of knock it really isn't going to matter due to the more important factors of Air/Fuel ratios, compression, and octane.
o, thank- you for letting me know, very nice car, i have a 03 ZO6 i am planning to do ATI f-1 procharger next month. but i am looking in to turbos and kennebell supercharger, but i dont know which to do, but the procharger is number 1 on my list at the moment.
i havent heard anything from chevy but im pretty sure they used a supercharger because corvettes are basically built around the motor so there is not much space in the engine bay , and turbos as a whole require more attention
was thinking same thing, i have kooks longtube headers, corsa exhaust on my corvette, and that shit is to expensive to take off :P but I think you'll be JUST fine with keeping the long tubes and the sts
yeah nothing beats the sounds of a Turbo, espeically on a vette :) WHY did they decide to supercharge the zr1 instead of turbo it? any responses on this?
The only way you can reduce lag in this system is to downsize the turbine and/or hotside a/r. This gets you spooling...but then you have a restriction upstairs compared to a larger turbine that coudl have been used if properly mounted. It has been proven time and time again that traditional mounting allows a bigger turbine and A/R housing and better spool than a rear mount. The end result is more power on the same intake manifold pressure with better transient response.
...but creates higher underhood temperatures and most vehicles are limited on space and traditional underhood mounting is twice the price. With the sts the long run of pipe to the cac and up to the throttlebody with actually lower iat's. Also iat's are reduced because the turbo does not mount directly to the header which gives exhaust gasses a chance to cool a bit. Imo the way to go is sts.
I don't disagree with your statements, but a front mount turbo system symply performs better. Tests have shown a difference of as much as +100 HP on a V8 with better transient response than rear mounting. One other aspect I really don't like is the fact that your air cleaner is now under the car.
On the Corvette, the AirIntake sits actually higher than originally. It is mounted behind the rearlights high up. And the strict turbo performance does not affect the driving performance as much, since the positive effect of the cooler intake temperature adds lots of power.
I strongly disagree. There is simply less enthalpy in the exhaust pulse, and therefore less energy to drive the turbine wheel, which lowers the shaft power to the compressor. The hotside of a turbo does not heat the intake charge to a significant degree, remember that air is an insulator and the heating effect is a result of the thermodynamics of compressing the charge and the efficiency of the turbine wheel. Seems to be a myth that rear mounting doesn't need a charge cooler...not true.
The charge pipes that run the length of the car aren't insulated so they function as a sort of finless intercooler. Also, at the low amounts of boost the rear-mount guys run, an intercooler is barely necessary anyway. The higher boost versions of the kit use intercoolers I beleive, at least as an option. I've known turbo hotrodders that ran high boost with a methanol injector, that performs the same basic function as an intercooler.
Boost levels derermine the need for an intercooler, not the location of the turbocharger. Cooling effect in a pipe is minimal...you need turbulators to get heat transfer. It's about shaft power to the turbine...rear mounting can't drive the compressor as hard. A very nice system... yes, but a front mount would still outperform it. I'd like to see one of these up against a Lingenfelter turbo Vette, same engine, same boost, same car.
@jdstankosky mayne but not in all cases because if you put as much money into this car to equal the price of a lingenfelter package, it would smoke the shit out of one
And, what is "Well over 180 mph"? Is that 181? 182? Well over to me is a more specific number. I have tapped 187 mph on the A3 racing (and beating) the new BMW M6. Since my arrival, I have won all but one street race and that was to a 2006 Porsche BiTurbo with "hidden" upgrades. I estimate he was putting down 600+ AWD HP. He walked me at 180 mph and easily kept going.....
I am located in Brunswick. The Corvette did not arrive with the system. I am the STS system integrator for Germany. You are right about the h&c packages. The problem is TUEV, though.
Very nice car :) I'm installing this turbo system on my C5 Z06, posted a video on it in my garage on my channel. I'm very proud of it and would love to have a couple of views. Please like so people can view my video :) Thanks a lot !
TheForkedTail 6 months ago
I think it is safe to say that your vette gives me a boner on command
KillaCamRon405 8 months ago
3 things i love... the sound of a cammed v-8, a turbo whistling, and a blow off valve.
W31350 9 months ago
Sind die STS Turbos ohne weiteres beim Tüv eintragbar??Was braucht man alles dafür?? Würde mir sowas für meinen Nissan 350Z importieren. Der Tüv würde sich doch die Augen reiben wenn er sowas sehen würde!
MusashiBankai 10 months ago
For sale?
mixbox2 11 months ago
I see that he is using the proper ricer left hand 1:00 driving position....
SCRex0472 11 months ago
ABSOLOUTELY FUCKIN AWSOME!! GERMANY,, AHH,,, LOVE IT MAN,, ALL THE LOCAL RICH KIDS MUST BE PISSED WHEN YOU BLOW THE DOORS OFF OF THEIR AMGs AND M5s
IRONSEAN7 1 year ago
wow this is one nasty vette. STS are making some really cool kits. I like that the turbos are mounted in back saving a lot of labor time and just making things a lot easier. Thanks for posting the vid ,was awesome seeing what a tt vette is like.
wesleymattison00 1 year ago
it doesnt have a vtec though....
flyers5342 1 year ago
thinking about doing sts turbos. making around 530 hp at the engine is that good or could i do more because i dont want to blow the engine for my 2000 C5
nomoreshit100 1 year ago
@nomoreshit100
That would equal about 7psi of boost - should be okay if your gaskets are alright and if you do a good dynotune.
Tranceshark 1 year ago
Ok a vette is already godlike fast from the factory!!! but who the hell would be insane enough to turbocharge one?
hondaman991 1 year ago
should make an autobahn run and see how fast it can go ;)
ahyahyahy 1 year ago 2
@ahyahyahy
Well, it goes faster than the tires are allowed to, so I always quit around 310km/h...
Tranceshark 1 year ago
what was total cost?
antman1978 1 year ago
@antman1978
Here in Germany, the total cost is a lot higher due to TUEV-regulations. I made it streetlegal, that cost was higher than everything else ;-)
Check your local STS Dealer for pricing
Tranceshark 1 year ago
535RWHP? whats it dyno at? Running 91 octane? is there a high boost mode for race gas?
gumby83 1 year ago
@gumby83
The dyno for that run was a german MAHA3000. Those numbers are usually lower than on e.g. a DynoJet . HighBoost mode can be done via a computer. There are several options - one boost level, two boost levels and seamless boostvariation...
Tranceshark 1 year ago
so so so so so fucking sick
Blownpony01 1 year ago
that sounds like a bad bitch
Kureji 1 year ago
nice vette love the soubd of it
jerry123462 1 year ago
SWEEEEEEET!
BattleshipStLouis 1 year ago
ill subscribe if theres gonna be more vids
derekfreas 1 year ago
what kind of exaust is on it?
tayylovessyuu 1 year ago
when you say 5 psi you mean both turbos are running 5 right?
ibanezkid07 1 year ago
@ibanezkid07 that should mean 5 psi combined. cause the boost sensor should be in the intake tubing somewere
kowclubproductions 1 year ago
Holy shit man I got my vette back from the shop today and holy shit it hauls ass. I also love the sts exhaust tips
nickm456123 1 year ago
wow holy shi* that thing goes like hell
MrNiteryder 1 year ago
I have a 1990 Camaro. I have a t56 and a LS6 i'm putting in. Next thing i'm doing is putting STS turbo kit. Any advice? nice video man.
Midgetman303 1 year ago
What boost level is this at bro?
nickm456123 1 year ago
Is the corvette in the video at 5psi? If not, how high is it?
nickm456123 1 year ago
Hi I'm looking into getting my c5 tt'd. Is this setup at the "safe" range of 5-7 psi? Thanks
nickm456123 1 year ago
@nickm456123 Yes, the base-setup runs at 5psi. You can use different springs for your wastegates to change to 7 or 8psi - or more... : )
Tranceshark 1 year ago
@Tranceshark How do the a4 transmissions hold up, (I have the performance axel if that makes a differance)
achp400 1 year ago
@achp400
You are right about that - the A4s do not hold up as good as the M6s. Especially in HighSpeed situations you can run into problems. Additional oilcooler for tranny will help, but I would strengthen the rearend on an a4, too.
Tranceshark 1 year ago
jizz in my pants...
kowclubproductions 1 year ago
is this just a C5 or is it a C5 zo6?
LSpoweredmonster 1 year ago
@LSpoweredmonster It´s a regular C5 - not a Z06
Tranceshark 1 year ago
me want
Jorge50505 1 year ago
amazing
Shagnasty69n 1 year ago
That's what I call a real car, sounds great!! :)
wildstar43 2 years ago
i love the sound of that blow off valve!!!
lemans405 2 years ago 3
How many HP's she putting out?
apexak 2 years ago
Its called a diverter valve. Thats what joeshmoe was describing. It relieves the pressure buildup from the intake plumbing and redirects it the the intake of the turbo compressor. Little to no noise except for turbo spooling. Thats what Marc99GT has and he thinks he doesnt need intake pressure protection if he has an auto trans.
Dubz0408 2 years ago
that blow off valve made me have an orgasm
whitemustang101 2 years ago 2
Scroll down and you will see the Silver Turbocharged 99 GT Auto that ran 10s on the bone stock longblock. I was wearing my jacket from the Mercedes Benz dealer where I worked.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
The MAF will not read rich on every vehicle. It never caused my GN a problem or my Mustang and both used MAF sensors and not MAP sensors. I didn't suggest that you remove anything, I was just stating a fact. Like I said, the turbo in my GN survived 19 years with no bov, but it also didn't need 20+ psi to make decent power.
As far as my claims, I have better things to do than BS strangers on a site. If you look up the Going thing MM&FF on Yahoo, you will see my car and me in the magazine.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
I have forgotten more about GM vehicles than you will ever know.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
You are 100% absolutely wrong. I owned and built Grand Nationals and they do not have a Blow off valve. My stock turbo was 19 years old when I sold it. The Typhoon, Syclone and 89 Turbo trans am did not either.
You don't know anything about these cars apparently. I owned and raced a 10 second turbocharged 99 GT auto and it never had a blow off valve for 3 years that I raced it. it takes years to damage a turbo if it does at all.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
The throttle plate never closes between shifts in an auto so it has no effect on performance. With a manual, when you shift, you are lifting out of the throttle and the back pressure will return to the compressor slowing the wheel down causing severe turbo lag. Few if any factory turbo cars ever produced, with an automatic, ever came with a BOV.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
sounds like a sick ass whip lash
GIVEMEYAYO 2 years ago
sounds like you got a little flutter. sounds amazing though
DAILL2DEF 2 years ago
that sounds so good. i added this vid to my favorites.
alexserra11 2 years ago
sounds awesome. the v8 rumble with a BOV and turbo spool up sound ;)
sanketkm 2 years ago
I hate that BOV sound too. Sounds all ricey. I say cam it and SC it and let her whine by that turbo.
LT1HILLINGHOE 2 years ago
To release extra boost that builds up. Too much boost can blow your engine.
squire2322 2 years ago
Yes it releases extra boost but your not gona blow your engine without one. It is to prevent back pressure from building up ( in the turbo ) which could blow the turbo... Worst case scenario you go through turbos like crazy. : )
94SuPraGuY 2 years ago
Also it is mainly needed by manual cars because boost drops between shifts and the back pressure would slow the compressor wheel down causing serious lag. With an automatic, it's not necessary at all. I owned a turbocharged 99 GT and an 87 Grand National. Ran both with big boost and no BOV for years.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
On a stock turbo setup thats ok. But if you get into modifying the car, bigger turbo ect... compressor surge can cause the engine to shut down when you come to a stop unless you shift to neutral, and will eventually kill the turbo. It is good to have one, But not to mention the sweet sound it makes between shifts and when you release the throttle while boosting. It sounds wrong on a V8 tho.
94SuPraGuY 2 years ago
I never put one on my turbocharged 99 GT that ran 10.90s on 93 octane with a T-76. I ran the car for 3 years and it never stalled once. My 87 Grand National with a PT61 at 20 psi never had one either. With an automatic, it is not necessary at all. I personally don't like the sound and will not put on one on my next project car either.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
WRONG! You're right about one thing tho. The GN doesnt come with a BOV, IT COMES WITH A DIVERTER VALVE!!!! It serves the same purpose but silently. Shifting gears wouldnt cause lag with a manual trans unless your gears are so long that you go from 7Krpm to 1500rpm. A BOV relieves pressure buildup in the intake. When the throttle plate closes the momentum of the turbo shaft, comp wheel, and turbine(spinning approx 100k rpm) needs to slow down. This is called, as supra descibed, compressor surge.
Dubz0408 2 years ago
You are 100% wrong. I owned an 87 GN and built it from the ground up including replacing the shortblock in my garage. Please don't attempt to tell me what a GN comes with. I worked on a few of them and there is no diverter valve or blow off valve. In an automatic, the throttle never closes going through gears so there is zero boost loss. The surge only occurs when you get out of the throttle. No impact on performance. With a manual, you will always lose some boost between shifts.
Marc99GT 2 years ago
Actually after doing a little more research, I found that you're partially right! It utilizes a mechanism which opens the waste gate to relieve surge. However, your theory on a BOV being designed for manual trans cars is still incorrect. Maybe you should get a hold of an online service manual and look up "Description and Operation." These manufacturers design cars to last, they would not risk blowing the intake pluming to pieces. As intelligent as u seem, im surprized you woundnt realize that.
Dubz0408 2 years ago
it sounds bad ass....
i just hate the the BOV sound. id route it back into the intake somehow to quiet it down some. that maybe kinda hard though with the rear mount system.
joeshmoe12301230 2 years ago
things got some loose lips haha, first times thats ever been sexy.
sick94Z28 2 years ago
how much HP/torque?
MonsterC5 2 years ago
Thanks for the nice comments.
Car has an all new styling now. Will post vids, soon...
Tranceshark 2 years ago
*fap* *fap* *fap* *fap* *fap*. The sexiest thing I have ever heard in my life.
dre5491 2 years ago
I laughed so hard when I read the queef part....
ldmcnutt 2 years ago
This is Porn movie! HUH!
teppili 2 years ago
You got da vtec mang?... no, I got da V8 MANG!! ...and it's ALWAYS kicked in!
ArcticRenegade 2 years ago 6
hahaha
yfzboy450 2 years ago
are there any STS dealers in germany?
MaxXximusGT 2 years ago
Yep, me.
Tranceshark 2 years ago
its called a wastegate :)
Damonke1 2 years ago
hahahahaha that's sick
Vrtko456 2 years ago
waste gates
chillpickle420 2 years ago
grandmothers eye scket
09erf8330 2 years ago
its prolly the bov u fucking fag.
bearsfan3 2 years ago 3
ROFL!
sk8er0430 2 years ago 5
Very nice
87798520 2 years ago
Put some K&N air filters on it and it will be really fast!!!!
fiveodude 3 years ago
What is it with people and K&N filters? News flash, THE SHITS TURBOED. I seriously doubt that after installing a $14k turbo kit, he would retro fit the kit to get the damn OEM air filter on the car. An oil soaked gauze doesnt even allow that much more power to be made. Your lookin at 4hp if your lucky.
Dubz0408 2 years ago
Are you still alive?
micorazontricolor 3 years ago
Sorry - been in Africa for quite some time. Back up and online now. Will post fresh stuff soon.
Tranceshark 2 years ago
sounds so fucking sick
327chevelle71 3 years ago
omg---- very nice this car. i love thes shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
19derschnelle88 3 years ago
man faster shifting that thing would own lol :P
mattpatrick1 3 years ago
sts turbo kits sound really good, you hear the turbos spool up more than a front mount. How bout turbo lag though?
camarosam 3 years ago
there is almost no lag with those since they are mounted at the back, there is a bit more time for exhaust pressure to build up in the pipes before it reaches the turbine
steinbacher682 3 years ago
amazing
ahyahyahy 3 years ago
nice vette! that sounds absolutely sweet! Any plans to get a C6? I would liek to see your C5 run against a ZR1!
555555rt 3 years ago
Well at least the German's are building a car worth a shit ...lol
ratfinkracing 3 years ago
made in the USA dumb fuck
xld3000 2 years ago
lmfao, you should really delete this comment.
Dubz0408 2 years ago
damn i love it when tires chirp after shifts...
trebor121290 3 years ago
you knoe thats not the tires chirping after shifts on the inside car view right... that would be the blow off/ext. wastegate from the built up boost...i know the car could easily chirp them but its not in this vid...
95FirebirdLT1 3 years ago
Ok.. this thing is bad ass but i got a serious question how the hell do u get rid of turbo lag mounting the turbos that far away from the intake manifold? In addition is it even safe having ur turbos that close to the floor for a daily driven car? one more question where would u mount your intercooler?
joelz1221 3 years ago
Turbo Lag Primarly comes from Turbo Size.Bigger turbo = more lag.The tubo piping is pressurized so the extra piping doesnt effect respone. The turbos ussually replace the factory muffler system. The IC is mounted up front like most but only needed for high boost. Air rolls of the turbos which keeps them cooler than average turbos. And the only concerns about this system is water getting into the intake if its not mounted high enough back there. Other than that. No worries at all.
jtlovett27 3 years ago
The turbo lag ist overruled by the diameter and airflowspeed in the piping / It is safe to mount them back there - the ceramic coating prevents them from cracking even when they´re splashed with water during extreme use / The intercooler is mounted up front - in front of the regular radiator
Tranceshark 3 years ago
The TEUV sucks, but hey, I guess you got to do what you got to do. They failed me with my B & B BUllets exhaust for no mufflers. I failed, installed a new system to pass, and when I drove home, I changed the exhaust BACK to my Bullets until the next inspection. Man I miss Germany!
GR8WHITEC5 3 years ago
Thanks!
Tranceshark 3 years ago
Must be even nicer to drive that beast on the autobahn. muwahaha. >:)
555ssdgg3345 3 years ago
indeed - it is! :)
Tranceshark 3 years ago
my buddy has a sts 350z and the turbos sound the same.
ynot407 3 years ago
amazing turbo spool sound. im guessing you can here it spool so much cause of where the turbo's are mounted.
oneofakindtrini 3 years ago
That´s correct! The Exhaust Turbines are only about 30cm from the exhaust tip. Therefore the spool up is very prominent. Even inside the vehicle. Much fun!
Tranceshark 3 years ago
Your car is a monster! I can't believe the pull in it! A lot of people say STS are a bunch of liars because although you get a great dyno/no lag, they say in high gears it doesn't have the pick up as a normal turbo does. How would you rate their product? Also how much was the cost to install?
AnathemusVideos 3 years ago
I would rate it 10/10. It is right what I needed. I checked on all available systems - and a little modified STS System was the perfect choice for the requirements in Germany...
Tranceshark 3 years ago
how much rwhp does your vette have
pimpinkin87 3 years ago
starting from 507@5psi
Tranceshark 3 years ago
Ein Traumfahrzeug, mehr kann ich dazu nicht sagen!
Strada11 3 years ago
Vielen Dank!
Tranceshark 3 years ago
Awesome B.O.V. Reminds me Supra.
Z06Lingenfelter 3 years ago
were you at gtr
johnroxy86 3 years ago
Holy Dog shit, when I heard that damn thing there is no way in hell I would even think about trying to run with it. Vette+ rearmountturbos= your ass beening handed to you.
maxstroke 3 years ago 4
that gave me a hard on
stud00muffin 3 years ago 2
I just bought a C5 myself and was looking into this system, from what i have read about it, it would seem that it is almost a bolt on application, which seems very unconventional to me. Usually with turbos one would need to lower compression and beef up internals etc, how much actual internal mod work was required for this? Great video, the sound it outstanding, and what a beautiful vette!
dpunusaf 3 years ago
Thank you very much!
Well, you are right about the engine mods - at least if you want to use a higher boost level. The basic system is a twin turbo running at 5psi. For that amount of boost you can run on the stock engine. If you want to crank up your boost, though - e.g. 8+psi you should rework your engine for a lower compression ratio and stronger valve springs and so on.
Tranceshark 3 years ago
correct me if im wrong, but doesnt the LS1 have a lower compression ratio than the LS6? so it would handle boost a little better, and the all alluminum engine wont knock as soon as an all iron setup?
fattymatty76 3 years ago
The LS1 has a lower compression ratio, but weaker springs and cheaper valves/stems this is their major limiting factor.
You can get more PSI with the LS1, but the LS6 is going to more than likely still make more power, an extra 500-600 rpms as well(been awhile since I drove an LS1). Upgrade your valvetrain and level the playing field.
As far as aluminum reducing chances of knock it really isn't going to matter due to the more important factors of Air/Fuel ratios, compression, and octane.
Genesis26317 3 years ago
AH! That sounds so nice!
faceeyes 3 years ago
man i want one that sounds sweet and looks fast as hell sweet video
NCOHs13 3 years ago
every time i here a turbo vette or mustang, when the guy shifts into the next gear i hear a weird sound, is that the blow out.
StngRayCorv 3 years ago
It is the blow off/pop off and/or wastegate sound, depending on setup...
Tranceshark 3 years ago
o, thank- you for letting me know, very nice car, i have a 03 ZO6 i am planning to do ATI f-1 procharger next month. but i am looking in to turbos and kennebell supercharger, but i dont know which to do, but the procharger is number 1 on my list at the moment.
StngRayCorv 3 years ago
Well, I like ProChargers, too. I would go for a Maggie though if I was to go with SC - on the TT I made my choice ;)
Tranceshark 3 years ago
man we need to see more videos of this car!!!
fattymatty76 3 years ago 2
Right now she is sitting in the paintshop and I am waiting for some upgrade parts. Will post new vids in the summer...
Tranceshark 3 years ago
i havent heard anything from chevy but im pretty sure they used a supercharger because corvettes are basically built around the motor so there is not much space in the engine bay , and turbos as a whole require more attention
Raydizzle81xx 3 years ago
ya i agree supercharger is alot cheaper to put on it and less space ,pipes and dosnt use engine oil.
PowerThirstyPsyco 3 years ago
ya but sts system replaces the muffler so its in the back of the car so there is not that much modifacation under the hood
ninjadomm2000 3 years ago
I was wondering how much you loose putting the turbo way back there?? and how much less efficient it is
PowerThirstyPsyco 3 years ago
Not much-it also helps get weight off the front end and shift it back for traction =)
super6wheelman 3 years ago
sounds amazing. im trying to decide between sts or procharger for my camaro. i just think ill have some bad lag if i keep my long tube headers.
12secZ28 4 years ago
doubtful the sts turbos are designed to have little to no lag. Sts all the way imo.
gbplmr 3 years ago
There is little doubt that a turbo, even a rear mounted one, will outperform a centrifugal supercharger.
HerrKuhn928 3 years ago
was thinking same thing, i have kooks longtube headers, corsa exhaust on my corvette, and that shit is to expensive to take off :P but I think you'll be JUST fine with keeping the long tubes and the sts
jeffzahnd 3 years ago
this sounds great
carsandbasketball 4 years ago
That is probably the best sounding car I have ever heard in my life. Amazing
speedinRS 4 years ago
Thank you so much!
I will post new videos soon!
Car is being repainted right now...
Tranceshark 4 years ago
yeah nothing beats the sounds of a Turbo, espeically on a vette :) WHY did they decide to supercharge the zr1 instead of turbo it? any responses on this?
jeffzahnd 3 years ago
how bad is the lag on it i am going to get one for my 84 corvette
alterchristopher 4 years ago
...no bigger lag than other turbo systems. Instant boost build-up!
Tranceshark 4 years ago
cool thanks im trying to retian the crossfire but i want to make at least 6oo rwhp so it going to be hard just want to se if i can lol
alterchristopher 4 years ago
Sounds like a nice challenge! ;) Good luck, bro!
Tranceshark 4 years ago
The only way you can reduce lag in this system is to downsize the turbine and/or hotside a/r. This gets you spooling...but then you have a restriction upstairs compared to a larger turbine that coudl have been used if properly mounted. It has been proven time and time again that traditional mounting allows a bigger turbine and A/R housing and better spool than a rear mount. The end result is more power on the same intake manifold pressure with better transient response.
HerrKuhn928 4 years ago
...but creates higher underhood temperatures and most vehicles are limited on space and traditional underhood mounting is twice the price. With the sts the long run of pipe to the cac and up to the throttlebody with actually lower iat's. Also iat's are reduced because the turbo does not mount directly to the header which gives exhaust gasses a chance to cool a bit. Imo the way to go is sts.
gbplmr 3 years ago
I don't disagree with your statements, but a front mount turbo system symply performs better. Tests have shown a difference of as much as +100 HP on a V8 with better transient response than rear mounting. One other aspect I really don't like is the fact that your air cleaner is now under the car.
HerrKuhn928 3 years ago
Not true for the corvette.
On the Corvette, the AirIntake sits actually higher than originally. It is mounted behind the rearlights high up. And the strict turbo performance does not affect the driving performance as much, since the positive effect of the cooler intake temperature adds lots of power.
Tranceshark 3 years ago
I strongly disagree. There is simply less enthalpy in the exhaust pulse, and therefore less energy to drive the turbine wheel, which lowers the shaft power to the compressor. The hotside of a turbo does not heat the intake charge to a significant degree, remember that air is an insulator and the heating effect is a result of the thermodynamics of compressing the charge and the efficiency of the turbine wheel. Seems to be a myth that rear mounting doesn't need a charge cooler...not true.
HerrKuhn928 3 years ago
The charge pipes that run the length of the car aren't insulated so they function as a sort of finless intercooler. Also, at the low amounts of boost the rear-mount guys run, an intercooler is barely necessary anyway. The higher boost versions of the kit use intercoolers I beleive, at least as an option. I've known turbo hotrodders that ran high boost with a methanol injector, that performs the same basic function as an intercooler.
beerslurpy 3 years ago
Boost levels derermine the need for an intercooler, not the location of the turbocharger. Cooling effect in a pipe is minimal...you need turbulators to get heat transfer. It's about shaft power to the turbine...rear mounting can't drive the compressor as hard. A very nice system... yes, but a front mount would still outperform it. I'd like to see one of these up against a Lingenfelter turbo Vette, same engine, same boost, same car.
HerrKuhn928 3 years ago
Me, too!
Tranceshark 3 years ago
Lingenfelter would smoke it, you're talking 700+ HP
jdstankosky 2 years ago
@jdstankosky true
AndrewDewittBaker 2 years ago
@jdstankosky mayne but not in all cases because if you put as much money into this car to equal the price of a lingenfelter package, it would smoke the shit out of one
xyz85kidx 2 years ago
maybe*
xyz85kidx 2 years ago
i love that noise
hotzone84 4 years ago
Wow...not enough kleenexes in the world to let me watch this more than once! Beautiful! -eg
eatinguy 4 years ago
thank you so much!
Tranceshark 4 years ago
That is a Procharger.
JKennedy1612 4 years ago
nope...
Tranceshark 4 years ago
doesn't even sound close to the procharger
lazylongboarder 4 years ago
the two nicest noises ever, a big V8 and twin turbos!
stvna 4 years ago
sick ass car man!!!!!
audiboost26 4 years ago
nice mothe fucking sound that shit sound sick all would like to have that in the street to race it
merceneri 4 years ago
Nice, sounds sharp!
bigT200 4 years ago
how much boost are you makking
Jhod69 4 years ago
8Psi
Tranceshark 4 years ago
Sounds damn good for 8psi
PurBlanco 4 years ago
that sound very good
bajanbwoy1 4 years ago
And, what is "Well over 180 mph"? Is that 181? 182? Well over to me is a more specific number. I have tapped 187 mph on the A3 racing (and beating) the new BMW M6. Since my arrival, I have won all but one street race and that was to a 2006 Porsche BiTurbo with "hidden" upgrades. I estimate he was putting down 600+ AWD HP. He walked me at 180 mph and easily kept going.....
GR8WHITEC5 4 years ago
I am located in Brunswick. The Corvette did not arrive with the system. I am the STS system integrator for Germany. You are right about the h&c packages. The problem is TUEV, though.
Tranceshark 4 years ago