UK Labour Party Political Broadcast - May 1987

[capricious71]

Now he's an MEP and doesn't give a damn about anything except a fat salary and expenses.

[Jimmmeeehhh]

@capricious71 no, hes not...

[classicalliberal11]

..."when you are strong"... 'when you are young"... You weren't either of these Mr Kinnock. You were a national joke.

Oh, and if anybody out there believes there was an ounce of sincerity in this film, sorry. It was written by Peter Mandelson. Yeah, that EU loving scumbag, who urged us to all vote for Gordon Brown at the last GE, and would sell his own mother for a fiver.

Long live Mrs Thatcher and the Conservative Party.

[nancymckeon]

This sounds like windbaggery to me. His chatter is as substantive as Tony Blair's smile without the attractiveness.

[Cammie2035]

I am voting for John HOWARD.

[Truetomyself100]

I love the UK, if i had the chance to immigrate anywhere i wanted i would turn it down. Sure the weather sucks but who cares? We live in a country full of amazing history and proud patriotism. We are the true red white and blue!!!

[infrasleep]

If new labour were the answer to Thatcherism. we all wasted 18 years of our lives thinking there was ever a question

[rfitzhen]

I thought Kinnock made a useful leader. To me Tony Benn should have been leader.

[Kenta19191919]

His death was very sudden. I am surprised to hear no voice of suspicion. Ronald Reagan developed Alzheimer's. Margaret Thatcher also has developed one. Are they all entirely by coincidence?

[AndiR1976]

Kinnock was a class traitor - sold out the miners, and sold out the democratically elected Socialist council in Liverpool

[britishjohn04]

Nice Euro anthem in the background...

[johnanth]

@britishjohn04 Beethoven's ode to joy... used officially by the EU but also the old Rhodesia. It was written loooong before the EU existed, even before the Napoleonic wars so don't be a dick.

[TheDustpile]

Labour's 12-year record on street crime and politically correct loopy laws catches them out.

Johnathan Leftwinger MP is only satire. But the comments underneath my recent video show that there are many loopy-Liberal, rubbish-spouting Johnathans in real life, keen to defend criminals and lambaste victims.

Title: NEW LABOUR EQUALS TREACHERY: CRIME

[djs8993]

1000 generations? To be fair Neil, there weren't too many universities knocking about 30,000 years ago.

[SERVANTOFSET]

@djs8993 30 years between generations. I'm not sure that's right.

[TheDangerousdoug]

It showed the ignorance of the Labour party at the time, and also that it had lost touch with the English people.

Putting a Welshman up for Englishmen to vote for Primeminister !! Pure genius.

[binstig]

That has nothing to do with it.

[rb1601]

You mean the carpetbagger and class traitor Lord Kinnock of Brussels?

[MrNickynacky]

Love Neil Kinnock's rhetoric, especially when taking on the militant Liverpool city council. Loved his digs at Maggie. A shame he never made it to No. 10 in 1992. A true Labour moderniser, the kinda leader we needed....not phony "Tory" Blair

[Mickmars90]

Kinnock was an oldleft socialist. New Labour are not right wing. The Old Left says NuLabour are right wing because they are embarrased by the consequences of the policies they have advocated for 100 years. The New Left started the Long March through our venerable institutions. New Labour has socialised nearly 50% of the economy, and 70% in some areas. Brown has increased the tax take by 50% in real terms, as the socialists always do. And he has bankrupted the country, as the socialists did

[slimes23]

talking about the tax take in real terms is pretty meaningless. Maggie Thatcher increased it massively anyway. Not only that but the Tories increased the tax take as a share of GDP by a huge margin. You need to do your research.

[gagothesith]

> the kinda leader we needed

Needed to what--needed to continue to be rejected by the electorate?

[gopconservative78]

Kinnock was a complete joke

[ZombeeXTC]

watch zietgiest addendum google find out who real enemy is

[emf1971]

what a loser

[Stripling01]

I'm beginning to realise that Kinnock was no "welsh windbag" as his detractors alleged when pouring calumny upon him. I am 80 now, and in my lifetime have heard some of the great orators - Churchill, Enoch Powell, Hitler, Kennedy and yes - Bannister-James. Kinnock outstrips them all. I once bumped into Neil, as I call him, outside a carpentry workshop at Swindon Technical College. He gave me £5 for a cup of soup and a bed for the night.

[lakshmimittal]

@Stripling01 Hope things are looking up for you now!

[flymogram]

Which country wuold that be?

[davimurph]

Is this the imfamous "Kinnock the Movie?"

[SERVANTOFSET]

yes

[brassoGB]

A voice of a forgotten age..but so relevent now.

Whenever I hear the words "Grotesque Chaos" together it sends a shiver down my spine. (fair enough - it only happens when I hear this speach !)

It's very easy to attack your enemies, but to attack your 'friends' takes guts.

Good on you Neil... ....It's too late now but I'm proud of you.

[bittenof]

are you proud of the fact that in spite of his incompetance he went on to rip us off working for the eu,along with his dreadful family

[putolinefourstroke]

vote bnp

[thatcheritescot]

does anyone know where i can see that speach where kinnock is telling the militants the cant play politics with peoples jobs...... iv never seen that before and even i am surprised by kinnocks passion

[scragger15]

It's about halfway through this video, I remember watching it at the time, very powerful and passionate.

[GibTheRocker]

vote BNP

[GibTheRocker]

labour are rubbish. vote BNP

[GibTheRocker]

labour are crap. Vote BNP!!

[verwoodspring]

Thank goodness this twerp never made it to number 10. What a shame he was allowed to cause havok as an MEP.

[getplanning]

Where was your helping hand for Liverpool in the 80's Kinnock? You sold the city out in the hope you'd make it to no. 10....the city council was taking Thatcher on and you bottled it.

[cantleysugar]

Hatton was a total fraud and he admits it now.

[LS8492]

Barbara Castle would have made great Prime Minister!!!! I love her & Thatcher!! >D

[chughesmcfc]

Castle did have some good ideas but i cant wait for thatcher to die.

[thatcheritescot]

i agree..... if labour had chosen castle instead of callahan margaret thatcher might never have been....... i am glad it didnt happen like that though

[newtroublemaker1973]

This soft-focus crap would never work against a hard-faced bitch like Thatcher, still it's positively left-wing compared to the current traitors.

[michelle888x]

The part Biden ripped off starts at about 7:23

[slimes23]

Do you blame him though?

[TomthatiscalledTom]

You can see where the campaign team was going wrong. This electoral broadcast is mawkish and twee, Kinnock harking back to a sentimental vision of working class life that was disappearing (tragically so, I might add) as union membership declined and people began buying their own homes. It's not helped by endorsements from Healy and Callaghan who to many people were held accountable, rightly or wrongly, for the late 1970s economic crisis. Kinnock shoud be trashing Thatcherism with logic and data

[zarakhast]

Sorry to intrude but I'm looking for Neil's famous 'You're All Right !' speech. Not from any political point of view - far from it - but just because I enjoyed it at the time and would like to see it again. Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks in advance (I bet I won't get any replies).

[slimes23]

You want the sheffield rally. it's easy to find.

[Svetlanka83]

Had this been shown towards the end of the campaign its impact would have gained Labour more seats in that election.

[shinesilently]

Brilliant ad about a great man.

[eastcombe127]

Notice the how how few people were clapping on that shot of the conference floor when he making that speech on the militants. Hes a traitor and that was the day real labour died.

[jacktindale]

Whilst I would be the first to agree that the current Government is far too far to the right, the fact remains that the Militants were, to all intents are purposes, Trotskites who would have made the Labour Party trully unelectable, remember, it was Kinnocks reforms (and later Smith's) that allowed Labour to win back in 1997. Removing far-left and Communist influence is nothing new in the Labour Party, the hardline Socialists were ousted back in the nineteen-hundreds.

[andrewshere]

Spot on regarding the far-left Militants. Basically, for years they denied the Labour Party a chance to serve the general public and right the wrongs of the Tories. Labour could have continued to speak to a minority of the population and leave the public with no real alternative to voting Conservative (the Libs being somewhat influential but unlikely to win power). Instead, they forced an internal change and showed the population of Britain there was finally a real choice.

[WJCairns]

Kinnock's tragedy was that, even though Labour achieved a veneer of unity at the election, the public were only too well aware of the strife that was bubbling beneath the surface. On both the left and right of the Party, there were too many self-indulgent prima donnas,who, like Jim Callaghan and Derek Hatton, continued to present their version of policy even though the Party had approved a totally different one.

[dartaddict]

There's no hope for this country whichever party is in power because all politcions are corrupt nowadays.

[zarakhast]

Can anyone direct me to the famous "You're all right !" speech ? I'm not party political, I just want a laugh !

[bazkoi]

ONE WORD. IRAQ.

[rachthegreat2]

um, a bit before his leadership, don't you think?

[socialistwill]

A rousing video, but those closing scenes of Neil Kinnock inaudibly discussing policy with his shadow cabinet are somewhat cheesy.

[Unknown10121]

I bet this is where the "We're hopeless" Comes from!

[HombreSantiago]

As a young man I feel very fortunate that 10 years of a Labour government have given me a platform upon which I can stand

[nikolaibarber]

kinnock was wishy washy and a pathetic labour leader. God, when will we get a labour leader that genuinely listens to the left?

[Dingdongalistic]

Not unless the class situation genuinely changes in the Electorate back towards the working classes. Like it or not, people just aren't all that enamoured towards the left at the moment, as it constricts their comfortableness too much.

[Autobahn2006]

He was a windbag

[worcesterwombat]

he was a man of waffle wiffle and piffle

thank God he never won

[swiftyxxx123]

very very debatable whether kinnock was a great leader or not , far too wordy and shifty under pressure , don't think he was a bad guy but did'nt have the gravitas to be a prime minister

[victorblack]

Neil was so busy tearing the Labour Party apart to defeat his opponents on the left, there was no chance he could defeat the Tories.

[Mosquito46]

He had to do that to have a chance of beating the Tories. Sadly it was Blair who benefited from Kinnock's legacy, not Kinnock. I've actually met him, and he is a great guy in person.

[andrewshere]

"Give yourself to the next generation..." a fine sentiment. There's more than a few who need to learn that these days

[jovialduke]

he was one of the best prime ministers we never had

[Durbs75]

Kinnock was a man of principle. But don't think he always told the truth. Losing doesn't make someone wiser or more honest in retrospect.

[BrucknerEnthusiast]

I think Kinnock's greatest speech was his long reply to Nigel Lawson's 1989 budget speech. Despite having to speak spontaneously with little opportunity to prepare for it, Kinnock addressed Lawson's inept policies and disingenuous economic forecasts with logic and devastating caustic wit. On that day Kinnock's exposure of Lawson's incompetence illustrated how flimsy Conservative economic policy was; long before the public became aware of it when we crashed out of the ERM in 1992.

[BrucknerEnthusiast]

It's not surprising that Labour lost the 1987 election with weak broadcasts like this. I voted Conservative in 1987 but by 1989 I had listened to more of Kinnock's articulate, intelligent speeches and I realised what a man of integrity he was. The worst evils of the post-1987 Thatcher years could have been avoided with Kinnock at No.10; June 1987 was a decisive moment in UK politics and in retrospect I'm ashamed that I was one of the millions of stupid people who voted against Kinnock.

[worcesterwombat]

don't be so hard on yourself, Kinnock is pillock, we'd have been straight back to the 3 day week with this clown capitulating to the unions - anyone who gets to the age of 30 and still votes Labour is a moron

[mellysingsdoom]

Some great points passionately put across with...a pre-Blairite "we're alright with us" niceness...frankly, as an old git, I'd rather mentalist Footism.... *shouts more as one is carried off to the mental house*

[barpypardlo]

Best PM we never had

[HildaMinogue]

The reason Neil didnt get in to no.10 is 1) because the Sun Newspaper spent 9 years waging a hate campaign against him. 2) The Militants. Anyway, it's one of the biggest tragedies of this country that we never had PM Kinnock and I am pretty damned sure that he would not have gone to war with Iraq, and would of resigned if he had to. Neil was a man of principle.

[Stepneydude]

God, I just watched this after watching the Spitting Image parody of it - Kinnock really puts all his heart and soul into this. Sadly, as has been said, Thatcher was a political genius and a worthy rival to old Neily.

(by the way, I vote lib dem, although this has given me new respect for labour.)

[HildaMinogue]

Lib Dem lol

[Mosquito46]

His speech "A Platform on which to Stand" was inspiring. The cruel tabloids have much to answer for in depriving Britain of a Prime Minister of passion, compassion, strength - and honesty!

[deniro999]

yes kiccokc was a superb leader and speaks about real matters and from his heart. everyone has flaws and critics, but man kiccock was honest and pasisonate he really cared. lets be honest if he looked and sounded like blair or cameron but at the time being bald giner and welsh probably didnt help.

[wollescote]

Greatest Labour leader never to become Prime Minister. Great shame.

[iluvasia]

This reali brings to light how popular Blair was - the sense of optimism in Blair's videos next to this is unbelievable

[RJT]

Kinnock was a great leader, just a shame he couldn't get into power.

[Ikazi]

Kinnock was perhaps the greatest Labour leader. As you say too bad he versed a political genius, no one can match Thatcher.

[HildaMinogue]

Ikazi (Thatcher obsessed person) Go and get yourself a healthier interest. Fixations with old ladies is not normal.

[DontApply]

you said it in one....

[OneBigRetard]

Yeah great. Just such a shame that he was clueless, tasteless, petty, ineffectual and ultimately pointless. Thtcher was no genious. She just had an armchair ride against this half-wit. The only thing he managed (and no small feat) was to bend Labour away from foot-esque rabid leftism. However, the very idea of him and Gladys entering No. 10 was enough to insist the Tories continued in office.