Wrestling Roundtable #21 9/21/08 Part 2 - WWE SummerSlam 2008

[kimblev1]

Khali vs HHH actually was terrible.

[WynselG]

If Tripleh is God, then God can kiss my ass lol.

[striker15338]

Not for nothing but i honestly thought the undertaker spear looked really cool. The rest of the match sucked but his spear was awsome lol

[JMBitchboy]

How the fuck do people appreciate Hell in a Cell in 2008? Through the years the match has downgraded its brutality. first, nobody goes outta the cage and now no more bleeding?!? It was terrible and contrary to what most smart asses say, Edge and Undertaker do not have chemistry.

[gramamge33]

Eric: You feel about Edge/Undertaker the way I feel about Kennedy/Angle at Lockdown

[awesomecaws]

how can u guys not like the hell in the cell match from ss2008? it had everything..great use of the cell...plus tlc all in 1 match..its at least a 4 star match

[777McLovin777]

Thanks for directing me here eric.

I do agree slightly that it was too back and forth but i stil enjoyed it and lets face it speaking of it in the same breath as Kennell from Hell still slightly annoys me. Good old vid.

[atticus805]

I really, really enjoy these vids and I wish I could sit amongst these bros and discuss wrestling with them, but one thing has ALWAYS bothered me...

Dude...lose the ponytail. It's terrible.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

And it ALWAYS bothers me when people tell me how to present my own hair DUDE. So everything's great about the show but me then, eh? Well tough shit

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[atticus805]

Holy crap, I forgot I even commented on that.

No, sir, you and your band of merry wrestling fans are not offensive nor problematic in any way.

Just the ponytail.

Dude.

[lostmyshoes80]

Disco Inferno theme song.

Yes!

[chaingangclick77]

sumerslam is not the second biggest show of the year is the rumble

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Second biggest but gimmick-free PPV of the year? Same difference

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[MrPlatanoMan1989]

I think roode punching sharmell early 2008 worked better than the hbk angle with his wife, everything was ther, the emotion, shock, and no brawl afterwords, what you guys think about that one

[recker24]

best line... Edge would do one of his five finishers no one believes in. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

that shit is so true.

[thedrifter]

LMAO

that sums it all up doesn't it?

i like edge but even i have to admit i don't buy his finishers

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Hmm, that's a problem, isn't it? heh. I mean, he's actually pinned people with the spear, and that's even believable, ha. I swear, at WrestleMania this year, there was no heat for the nearfalls on Undertaker, because nobody really believed any of those moves would actually beat the Undertaker. Which is why they had all the run ins I suppose, but Chris would be able to answer the question of the crowd heat better than I

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[thedrifter]

oh, god forbid what might have happen should undertaker have lost at WM. actaully i take that back, because im under the sad impression that a majority of the marks would have spased out and real fans wouldn't know what to do but get there nearst two by four and charge at edge lol

but yeah,i just don't believe somebody like edge can take a move that huge guys like goldburg, lashly and batista used and turn it into a beliveable finisher. im supirsed people granted this match of the year status

[DangerRichTV]

LMFAO OWNED...

[bobolebowski]

The guys in the video need to get a life.

What credentials do these guys have other than being super marks for 20 years. Get a life seriously....other than bitching about everything you see on TV....you guys have never even been in the ring before.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Someone on the internet telling someone to get a life, oh the hilarity! "Marks" means I'm a sucker, and considering I've made a full time living in the pro wrestling business for over 4 years, that seems to show I'm no sucker. If you knew shit about us, you'd know our credentials, and that I'm extremely certain that I've been a ring many more times than you, if at all. As such, you can suck my dick, Internet Tough Guy. Now fuck off!

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[sickdaddy12]

"I wouldn't say it was that bad"

"Undertaker did the spear."

"That was bad! That was bad"

LOL Indeed it was

[rhettman1597]

micheals wife was on tv before she was a wcw nitro girl

[TerreHauteEvents]

I live in Indiana and went to Summerslam in Indy. The hell in a cell was horrible. It had a few good points to it, but the whole show over all was HORRIBLE. The best part was watching Taz about kill himself and others trying to leave the arena lol

[leconter]

I think pretty much everyone outside of the WWE writers and the McMahons know that Cena/Batista was done like 7 months too early. But for what it was it was an enjoyable match. Prob the best one of the night.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

It'd get my vote for "motn"

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[passiondiva05]

I also thought that the match between Cena and Batista was too early. However, it should have been the main event. Edge/Taker match was good but the Mania match they had was better. I think the Y2J/HBK line is the best that they have right now. The SS incident with his wife getting punched in the face gave us all the shock factor. It's like you really didn't know. Chris's look...'Was it accident or not?' I also wonder why WHC matches dont close PPVs anymore....Sad times.

[roh1234]

i disagree as it would continue to devalvue the world titles.

[Entertainmentwf]

lol, "going back and forth", isn't that a wrestling match standard lol? lol

[WrestlingRoundtable]

heh, if you put it THAT way, perhaps, but that's not what I meant :) As I explained in the video, there was no flow to the match whatsoever. By that I mean, Edge would spear Undertaker through the cage, right? Then they'd stand up a like 15 seconds later and Undertaker would start punching him. Then, Undertaker would, let's say, chokeslam Edge, pin attempt, then Edge would get up & start punching Undertaker. Stuff that just doesn't make sense & looks like two kids with no clue backyarding

-E

[crawleymang]

"If a woman got punched in the face on every show I'd watch religiously."

LOL vicious.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

haha, thanks

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[BridgewatersFinest]

Thank you for the comment about Chris Jericho putting his pants back on. Four stars.

[werdorino]

oh and hate to be like this but it is HIGHLY unlikely that Michaels is Catholic (we don;t do the whole evangelical thing he pulls, he's probably Born Again or something). Correct me if I'm wrong though

[BridgewatersFinest]

Michael Hickenbottom is born-again. He's said that from Day 1. But it's easier to say that he's Catholic, AND, he was raised Roman Catholic.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I just said the first denominations I could think of first, heh. If I had thought about it for a minute I might have gotten Born Again, but I guess I wasn't that far off. But you guys seem to know better than I, so thanks for the input.

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[werdorino]

is it just me or does an "accidental" punch seem kinda counterproductive to getting jericho heat? They should've made him deliberately attack her to make it interesting/productive to the storyline, like Bischoff forcing Flair's wife to kiss him back in '98

[LawrenceRoundTable]

I disagree, there's nothing disturbing about the obvious. A truly psychotic person, a devious villian makes his actions seem almost justified (in this case, "accidental"). If he just attacked her, there would be a small portion of the crowd that would probably end up cheering! Plus, that way of doing that angle has been done to death. The brief atomic moment that created the climax serves to add some drama and chaos to the situation.

[ecwecwecw1]

agreed

[ShadowEmiko]

I find it funny that Orton is still viewed as the head heel and WWE feels they need him to 'keep' the show by showing up and speaking which I do like mind you. But to have the crowd cheer for your head heel just means that the people really came to see how bad they have become without someone like Orton. I feel the under play his talent alot an that is also something WWE has been doing to people for a long time. An you just gotta love the move of CM Punk never maineventing with the title xD.

[captaintrippsky]

I think Jericho should have come back with long hair.Hooked up with HBK as his mentor and formed the new rockers let the have a real good run .maybe a tag championship.they could fight chrym time classic hip hop vs. rock.Then turn Jericho as a heel with the short hair that would really make it look like he turned his back on the whole rockstar character.I did like the whole eye for an eye gimmick though but that was the only thing interesting in this feud

[zackvanhalen]

Why did they give Jericho the belt? To me it was a horrible decision.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Why's that?

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[roh1234]

Why? Do you still think wrestling's real?

[zackvanhalen]

First of all, no I don't think wrestling is real at all. And second of all what comment are you responding to?

[roh1234]

good because anyone who has half a brain would know that Jericho deserves the title as he 'works' his ass off continually. Do you know what is a horrible decision? Commenting with Jericho didn't deserve the title.

[zackvanhalen]

Fine give Jericho the belt. It doesn't even matter because the titles are meaningless because they just trade them back and forth every month or so anyway. Not only that but having two "world" champions for one company is just retarded anyway.

[roh1234]

uhh what the hell has this got to do with jericho winning the title, because if your gonna respond with stuff not involved with the subject at hand means you really are making your self look a bit like a fool

[zackvanhalen]

It has everything to do with who has the title. My point is I don't care who has the title because the product is absolute garbage. I was pissed when they made CM Punk drop the title because there was no reason in my opinion. If you're trying to push someone than push him. Now Punk isn't even a contender for the belt. But, I honestly rarely watch WWE anymore. I flip it on to see whats happening and thats about it. In fact I hadn't even thought about the Jericho/punk thing since you responded.

[roh1234]

Then why give a shit entriely, you may as well just jump in to the ground and never return.

[thedrifter]

Cm Punk was an experiment that failed. i like him as champ but the fans weren't clicking with him like they should have. so they had him drop it. can you blame em? Jericho is the fan favorite and he is so over because people know jericho has it all(skills, promo skills, and he works his ass off) not to mention that he was buried for so long, to finally see him with the belt is Deserving. maybe punk will get over enough to make winning a title mean something, who knows

[69RandySavageTV]

One of my favourite Hell in a Cell Macthes was the Brock Lesnar vs. Taker at No Mercy 2002 as it was intense & brutal & seem more realistic but i guess thats what happens today when WWE is trying to attract a younger audience.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

You're right. First, about Brock/UT being a classic, heh. Second, with WWE catering their product to a PG audience, they're not going to be doing bloodfests much anymore. In fact, I think they've banned blading again

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[69RandySavageTV]

I was really dissapointed with the hell in the cell match, there was far to many gimmicked weapons involved, i predicted that Edge would spear Undertaker through the Cell & i was right however i also predicted that they would go up on top of the Cell which they have not done in years to freshin it up a bit & give fans what they really wanted yet i also knew that becuase it is a New Bigger cell hat it would probably be unlikly. Plus all those weapons shots & no blood if i recall correctly = crap.

[tonyfoxnyc]

Wrestling Roundtable needs a big finish.

I suggest hiring a random wrestler to come out at the end of each video and power bomb Eric through the Wrestling Roundtable.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Why me?!

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[tonyfoxnyc]

Even better:

Colin Delaney

vs

Eric of The Wrestling Roundtable

in a "condom on a pole match".

The winner gets laid.

That will add some shock value to your show!

LOL

I will be the referee!

This could be the start of a brand new underground wrestling promotion in NYC!

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Like I use condoms

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[ICEGOD2]

XL Large Magnums baby!!!

[tonyfoxnyc]

Your new Wrestling Roundtable name should be:

"The Bareback Bronco"

You should start using that name in your videos!

LOL!

[WrestlingRoundtable]

That nickname can stay UNDER the table, haha. Or on top?

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[texasmade17]

slimmarmstrong makes a good point. I can't believe it but I completely forgot about Booker T and Roode earlier this year! How the hell did I miss this blatant copy?

[SlimmArmstrong]

dude, it is MINDBOGGLING that they would copy that crap!

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I never got the impression that Jericho, Shawn Michaels, Vince McMahon & the writers sat down and went, "You know that angle Booker T & Robert Roode did in TNA? We can do that so much better." I seriously doubt that did or ever would happen, heh. Probably just a coincidence

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[nickthewelshlad]

i think the problem is we having ntting 2 compare the wwe you use 2 have wwf,wcw, ecw now we jus have wwe i wudnt consider tna yet cos thy aitn big enough yet thy still a indy show 2 me

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Sure, you can compare WWE to it's own past work, and boy do you not want to do that! heh, it can't even hold a candle to itself

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[nickthewelshlad]

fully agree with wat u sed

[ICEGOD2]

Santino is such a joke to me. And Beth Phoenix looks like a man for real.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Santino. A joke. No kidding. And I think Beth Phoenix is hot!

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[ICEGOD2]

He makes me feel not as a proud to be of partial Italian heritige.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Why? He's not even Italian! haha

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[YoungRenaissanceMan]

i agree on the main titles becoming a joke

wwe title- nothing but a tool to continue to push triple h as if he was the standard of wrestling as young guns are ignored

world title - i think we can now say u can win this title as of late in the bingo hall

ecw title - this is a world title? when guys who are meant for second-tier titles hold it?

[YoungRenaissanceMan]

i think ur underating the hell in a cell

match of the year? hell no

but i thought it was a good way to end the show w/ taker getting his revenge

[WrestlingRoundtable]

The "stunt show" at the end was cute. Undertaker's theatrics, while certainly over the top, are at least done well. But I'll still respectfully disagree with the content of the match. How people can overrate it to "Match Of The Year" when 1. In the year of Ric Flair's retirement, they'll feel that way about a glorified spotfest - and not even a good one - regardless of whether it was a blow off or not 2. It's not even one of Undertaker's best HITC matches alone!, is beyond me

-E

[MIMIOMAR]

i wish wcw was still around....then wwe would have competition and wrestling wouldnt suck as bad as it does today

[ecwfan305]

This is my first watching the wrestling roundtable and it's awesome. keep up the great work.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Thank you very much. Welcome aboard, and we will!

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[reh629]

i dont like everything the wwe put out. however i enjoy the overall product.

you guys cant get over the fact the brand extension and 3 world titles ARE NOT going anywhere.

you pretty much crap over anything the wwe does, hell you rarely pay tna a compliment.

as i grow older i try more to look at wrestling as a fan instead of an over-critical smark analyst.

[ChrisRoundTable]

Rarely pay TNA a compliment? Did you watch our last video?

[eli24128]

good point wwetnasux, dave meltzer's last ***** WWE match...i agree that hbk v. taker was the best hiac wrestling match but the best hiac match HAS to be taker v. mankind, one of those legendary wrestling moments.

Great show, looking forward to themes/entrances...and cena v. batista was way to premature and was perhaps the last match the WWE didn't show that had that BIG match feel to it.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I love both of those matches, though I certainly don't live or die by what Meltzer thinks about them. I like his reporting, not his opinions frankly. But all the same, thanks very much!

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[Nic1700]

I like it that you wait until a month removed from the PPV to reveiw it. That way you can see whats happened since and then judge.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

haha, it's not by design but by necessity, but all the same, that can help, yes

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[wwetnasux]

HBK vs. Taker HIAC was my favorite, and keep in mind it was the last WWE match to get an official five star rating.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I really could care less if Dave Meltzer thinks a match is ***** or not. But anyway, I LOVE that match too :)

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[roh1234]

great show so far, personally i thought summerslam was a very pointless ppv, it really led to nothing. and don't forgot about the heart throbs theme!

[WrestlingRoundtable]

haha, ok. Thanks!

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[roh1234]

sorry i hate to point out a mistake but heck i will anyway, you put chris harris instead of brett cimenello

[WrestlingRoundtable]

No no, that's a good thing you pointed that out. It's been corrected, and thank you

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[roh1234]

I'm a perfectionist, lol and my pleasure.

[nickthewelshlad]

i dnt mean to be rude bt it seems all u do is moan everything in the wrestling business u moan about and nver see any good in it

[WrestlingRoundtable]

First thing out of my mouth was how much I enjoyed Glamarella. So there.

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[nickthewelshlad]

i agree with yor thoughts on the hiac it could have been a memerable match bt thy screwd it all up i even thought he the spear was kinda good and the undertaker pulled it off it was better thn any spear i seen edge do 2bh

[evansawatsky20]

Exactly, you guys are more critics than fans.

[nickthewelshlad]

i think thts wher the difference has 2 b found r u fans or r u critics because some the points you guys bring has no strength in them or a fair point of view i lik watching yor shows bt bring up the positives of wretling cos if u keep going on abo the negative parts u guna strt driving people away from wrestling

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Firstly, "critic" is a word that shouldn't have a bad rep. b/c critics can be helpful & insightful people, as I find Roger Ebert for instance. We don't always have the same views on a movie, but he can open my eyes to something I never saw or noticed before. So I don't see being a "critic" as a bad thing, as I would hope we do just that for our audience here on the show. We're fans, we're honest & have reasons for what we like & don't, so just because you don't agree doesn't mean we're "weak"

-E

[B44501xRacerEX]

I suppose that summerslam "Hell in a Cell"

match was a way to take Edge off the show for a while, because we have not seen him since.

Now Bam Neely was by himself last night on

ECW. So maybe Chavo will be gone also.

[hurricanekicka]

favorite themes:

ROH: Final Countdown (Bryan Danielson)

WWE: Razor Ramon and Evolution theme

WCW: Four Horseman theme and NWO theme

TNA: Aj Styles new theme

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Pretty decent choices!

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[ish90an]

Cena-Batista:match of the night, though the wrong guy won. The HIAC was all right, it kinda brought down the value of the whole HIAC gimmick coz of its lack of really good quality though. The HBK-Y2J feud has been fun to watch, Jericho's overshadowed HBK with his heel persona and promos, and the Summerslam segment did add to it. But I think prolonging the feud with the ladder match at No Mercy is a stupid idea, the feud was over at the last PPV, keep it that way.

[152hbk]

good video

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Thank you!

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[homebrewer03]

About that Hell in a Cell, I will give them credit for having some nice spots and giving it their all, but it's far from a classic. I can't even put it in the top 5 HIAC matches of all time.

And before the next vid gets posted, I submit as the best theme and entrance:

Theme - Million Dollar Man

Theme & Entrance - Homicide (Ring Of Honor entrance)

[muhkuh224]

You dont think that cell match is a classic? You are lame!

[homebrewer03]

How is it a classic? Because there was a bunch of cool moves and spots? That's all fine and good, but at some point, the match has to make sense. If you get speared through a cage, the match should be over. If you get speared through an announce table, the match should be over. It completely brings down the effect of Edge's spear. There's a reason it's called a FINISHER.

Where do you rank this match amongst the rest of the HIAC matches?

[muhkuh224]

It was back and forth! Thats the best type of match.Its wrestling of course the guy is going to get back up after being speard.Maybe you dont think its a classic but I really do I give it 8/10. The last great cell match I can remember is rikishi and stone cold.

[homebrewer03]

I can understand the back and forth, but not like that. Moves are supposed to gradually have an effect over the course of the match. It was as if they had none. I like matches that make some sort of sense. The moves were too strong and should have done more damage than was shown.

HIAC that I rank over this one:

HHH vs. Cactus Jack

HBK vs. Undertaker

Undertaker vs. Mankind

6 Man Match at Armageddon

Brock vs. Undertaker

That's just off the top of my head

[rellik4life]

kenny dykstra reminds me alittle of heel owen hart around 1994/95 when he felt he was being mistreated and living in bret's shadow. maybe bret sees that in kenny too

[Mistertbones]

I thought the HIAC match, it was okay, but it wasn't great.

[montanna631]

great vid,i felt that the HITC was ok,but somewhat spoiled by the stupid hell end.cant wait for the next vid

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Thank you

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[SlimmArmstrong]

and the Jericho/Michaels feud was just fine before the "you hit my wife" bullshyt. they've had the same issue since WM19 (Jericho's jealousy), and it was READY MADE. why convolute it by BLATANTLY COPYING the Booker T/Robert Roode feud, and it amazes me that no one has brought that up. Booker and Roode did that crap just months ago, and IT SUCKED THEN! WWE copying it makes about as much sense as Booker and Angle being friends after Kurt said he wanted to "beast f*ck" Sharmelle 2-3 years..feel me?

[SlimmArmstrong]

the main problem with the HIAC matches is the "can u top this" aspect of them. if it's not more "backyard/extreme" than the last, then it's not a good one (in WWE's opinion). Cena vs Batista was one of their current "dream matches" that they should've saved, but as usual, Vince forgets what made the "Megapowers" saga so great, and can't seem to build anything properly anymore. and there's not enough time in the day for me to hate on Triple H's "invincibility", so I'll leave that alone (for now)

[WrestlingRoundtable]

On the other hand, while I haven't seen the Batista/HHH, Batista/Undertaker or Undertaker/Orton HITCs that people've said were good so I can't talk about them, when it came time for Brock/Undertaker's HITC, they didn't even leave the cage and the match is a classic. One of the best three or four HITCs imo and it didn't even feature one fall off the cage. So maybe, if indeed WWE is taking a "can you top this" approach, they need to re-think it. Much like almost everything else they do, heh.

-E

[toxicrexdawg]

someone explain to me how is kenny dykstra one of bret harts favorite new wrestlers and hes being missed used. shit is crazy forreal

[dta333]

Don`t blame the wrestlers taker and edge , blame who put the stupid story between these two ,i like Egde but who wasnt the guy who ment to face the legendary Undertaker in these last days , but the problem there are no one except these guys to face each others ,you know what you should talk about the WWE writer`s who make those kind of stories , there is the BIG problem ...

Nice hair BTW Eric ^^ ..

[hound89]

HHH isn't just any god hes Thor XD

i agree with u guys on the HIAC, i said "they turned a Potentially good match into Backyard wrestling" on a forum, i got red repped... sigh

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Tell that forum to suck my cyber dick, ha. Or tell them to watch the Wrestling Roundtable for a reality check. Or both, ha.

But seriously, yeah, I expected the same reaction here when we taped this & I said that, but the backlash hasn't happened yet surprisingly. Most viewers seem to agree. Thanks!

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[BIGBarseman23]

overall i thought it was a good match in comparison to what was on the rest of the card, but in comparison to hiac matches not so good. i thought it was to spotty and i agree with the not selling, also they needed to utilize the hiac because that what the match essentially is, hiac.

[jblive1985]

i think it was boring cuz like lawrence said they did it so much this yr since wm just adding a hell in a cell doesnt give it much spice

[NoBrianNoGain]

Good vid - every youtube wrestling fan should check out wrestlingroundtable...

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Thank you very much, if only they did! heh, and that's a great username, btw

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[WrestlingRoundtable]

Well, when talking about HITCs, or even just ones involving the Undertaker, the original with Michaels, the 98 one with Foley, and the 02 one with Brock Lesnar wipe their asses with the one with Edge. The difference in quality between, let's say, this Edge one & the HBK one is startling. The 97 HBK one was near perfect ; perfect psychology of Michaels getting his ass beat when finally cornered in the cage, trying to escape, & it connected 2 angles(UT/HBK feud, & Kane's debuts). No comparison

-E

[Pecker6914]

Even though i disagree with everything you guys say about Edge, I do agree that the H.I.A.C. match with The Undertaker was a terrible match. It wasn't the worst Hell in a Cell match, but at the same time it was boring, and I was as well as shocked that people gave it four stars. I think it bould have been a better, but like i said, not the worst H.I.A.C. match i've seen.

and Eric... Why does your hair looks like that pot smoking fool RVD!?!?!?

:-)

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I guess it'd be hard to top the Bossman HITC, but at least that had reverse-good/WrestleCrap/Camp factor to it, heh. This one with Edge, as I explained in the video, was just a mess, so it's good even though you disagree with my critique of Edge's skills that you could see what was wrong with it imo.

And why do people keep going on & on about my hair? heh. It's not like I looked in the mirror & said, "I want to do the RVD look today" Thanks anyway, heh

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[reh629]

the jericho/hbk was great without the title. it adds to the feud.

[DarkPascual]

I thought that I was the only one that didn't liked the Taker-Edge HIAC (or at least not think that it was that good)...

Some friends where ready to crucify me for not liked it (despite the fact that I'm a big Edge mark...sorry about that...)

But then again, those are the same friends to try to set me on flames for dare to actually enjoy TNA...

[WrestlingRoundtable]

I'm surprised how many viewers agree with me about the HITC, actually. It's a pleasant surprise, but a surprise nonetheless, heh.

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[kingjames41189]

Edge/Taker told an amazing story and had some great psychology. I don't know what match you were watching. And Taker doing the spear fit perfectly in the context of the story they were telling. Not MOTY or anything but still a great match. Worst part was the wrong guy going over. Cena/Batista was very good as well.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Ok, we obviously disagree big time on the HITC, but I explained why I felt the way I do in the video. Why do you think it had 'great' psychology, told an amazing story, and why UT doing a spear fit in to that story perfectly? And why should Edge have won? I will give you this, though ; I thought Batista/Cena was pretty good. Not great, not at all, but good enough. But I felt THAT was the match where the wrong guy went over, heh.

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[Nic1700]

Batista needed to go over IMO.

One needed to win at SS and one needed to win at WM. Compare Cena winning at SummerSlam vs. Cena winning at WM, WM is a far better place for him to win.

Then you could throw a tiebreaker in at some point and have third match, just leave it at 1-1, or play up that whoever wins the rematch is the real winner.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Well, I guess Batista's injury(unless he juices to the point he makes a 'miraculous' & 'brave' comeback months ahead of time) cancels out the planned WrestleMania rematch so this may be a moot point, but what I meant about Cena going over is, I see him as their top guy, and he had been losing the ENTIRE year, since he returned in January, and thus could have used a strong victory. That being said, I liked that they said the reason he needed surgery was because of the match

-E

[evansawatsky20]

You make me feel like an idiot, but yet I like watching your videos anyway. WHY!?1

BTW, I wasn't that big on the Hell in a Cell match either. It was entertaining, but it is not match of the year material.

[WrestlingRoundtable]

Um, hopefully because it's entertaining & you learn something too? I hope! heh

-E, Wrestling Roundtable

[evansawatsky20]

Nah, you never say anything I didn't already know :)

[mynameisthree]

the HBK - Jericho feud was beginning to lose a little steam, thus the wife-punching episode. This feud seems like it should be in TNA, because it's a long, drawn out feud that should have been done already.