Perchlorate Synthesis

[MrAirshot]

thumps up if you thought that's ytmachx cell, and this guy stole it !!

nice cell man 5 stars(or thump up : D )

anyway, how much Potassium Chloride input ,and how much kclo3 output ?

because i get the half !!!!

[351wsvo]

@MrAirshot Ytmachx is my brother and I think I'm getting more chlorate than salt I started with

[PyR0Star]

shweeeeeeet, now send me some! =) one day I'll try this project. I've only done KClO3, GJ!!!

[rpetresco]

Can I do it using carbon rods instead of the platinum and niobium ones ?

What is the voltage and current used for this 2 liters solution ?

in 2 liters how much KCL u used ?

tks

[danielrascio]

You are using platinum anode. How do you prevent the formation of perchlorate and the subsequential wear of the platinum anode?

I am asking that because I need chlorate and I have only Pt anodes. Would it be better to go for titanium MMO anodes?

THX

[351wsvo]

@danielrascio I am not running enough time for perchlorate or enough voltage. Plus the perchlorate won't form because the chlorate falls out of solution first. You have to start with NaCl to make perchlorate. And Perchlorate does not hurt the anode in any way.

[FarinUrlaub77]

how is the reaction vessel called? i want to buy one of these :-)

[neovictorius]

so how do you know when it is done?

[351wsvo]

@neovictorius For two liters I go about 72-85 hours

[351wsvo]

@neovictorius When I am done the Chlorate is filling up the bottom and starting to cover up the electrodes.

[VonZegen]

Hello, I have a question! I have a cell that uses stainless steel cathodes and an MMO anode. with an ATX power supply. But everytime I run the electrolysis, the water becomes a very clear green. I then try to make potassium perchlorate though double decomp with KCl, but nothing precipitates... Any advice?

[kevinthenerd]

How can I make just potassium hydroxide?

[jeffxu1234567890]

Where did you get the anode? I'm trying to find a good one for ages. I'd made MnO2 as well as PbO2 and Magnetite coated anodes, but I have to replenish the oxide layer regularly, and they sometimes flake off on long runs.

[351wsvo]

Yes, actually

[liquidgrain]

Please share what the giant test tube is called! 5/5

[351wsvo]

It is called a reaction vessel.

[liquidgrain]

@351wsvo

Actually?!?!? Or is that just a smart ass answer?....

[liquidgrain]

@liquidgrain

Well I'll be a monkeys uncle! It is called a reaction vessel. I thought I had the understanding that a reaction vessel is anything a reaction is carried out in and you were giving me a definition rather than a product name. My apologies for my ignorance and rudeness. :-/

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>The potassium chloride is a reddish violet and sodium chloride is a yellow color on the beak flame burner or other flame beak !

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>The potassium chloride (KCl) is more soluble than sodium chloride (NaCl) in water !

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>The potassium chloride (KCl) with a more bitter taste as sodium chloride (NaCl) classic taste table salt !

[351wsvo]

When using KCl you'll only get chlorate because it drops out of solution as it is formed. If you want perchlorate start with NaCl then do a matathasis with KCl.

[panzuman]

how do you know what product you are makeing chlorate or perchloarte

[starduststeve]

on principal: if the cell voltage is below 5v AND your anode surface isn´t made of either platinum or lead dioxide, you only get chlorate in the end.

if you really want be sure, you have to test it with methylene blue: a purple percipitate (when adding methylene blue) maens presence of clo4-ions and success of your synthesis.

[Agentoxedo07]

Holy-Terrorist:>Is the electrolyse

anode Platinum and Niobium electrode

with 65°C or high with sodium chlorate

NaClO3 for

electrolyse to synthesis sodium perchlorate

NaClO4

[351wsvo]

Glassware comes from Ebay

[benyamen43]

Where'd you get the glassware? Very nice setup 5/5

[chipmunk3k]

i bought some graphite rods and they are coated in copper anyone got any idears how to remove it without using Electrolysis, nitric acid, sulfuric acid ?

[peanutlovers42]

you can get graphite rods from dry cell batterys just take the outer shell off

[suzuki834]

no leave the copper on

[351wsvo]

You can not leave the copper on. Just get an edge started and peel it off

[crazyshitface69]

awesome

[antiswattt2]

its beatiful (: its producing PYRO GOLD :D white pyro gold ofc

[TheFluorineMartyr]

Brilliant set-up.

[svenp]

Very nice!

[351wsvo]

The glassware cost about $180 but the electrodes are platinum and cost $240.

[pyromodder]

sounds pricey i would hope that the yield makes up for it since buying perch is so expensive now. how many kgs are you planning to produce?

[FOATE]

Thats expensive :O You'd have to make at least 28 kgs to even compensate the price of the equipment (my source of KClO4, 15 bucks / kg) It could be worth it if you're planning on making reaally large quantities though

[TheAmateurChemist]

Interesting. I might try something like this on my channel... slightly modified of course!

[manstarson]

can u send me the plans and how much it cost to build it?

[manstarson]

what is the anode?

[manstarson]

lol that must cost cost you very much to build