you can not compare her to callas ffs 2 totally different voices but could callas sing Angel?? like katherine can , i like her voice it has a warmth to it, a fullness.
Can you name me one opera she has acted in!! only i cant find one ..if she hasn't then she is only a aria singer..like susan boyle...I hope you can give this approval thanks.. Jed
@kippyambar14 Excuse me for being a prick, but u can't be serious but Callas is a goddess O.o Kat sings well yes but she is not and never will be better than maria callas...
@jkhansun Teleprompters don't amplify the voice. Microphones do. Jenkins doesn't have the volume to sing without a mic. Opera singers never use mics. They have learned to project their voices without amplification.
@hannahloveshistory A classical singer sings classical music. Which means lieder, operas or grand scale classical works (masses, symphonies, cantatas, etc.). Not arias. Operas.
Whatever people... Apart from being a very good looking lady, Katherine Jenkins is absolutely a singer with an outstanding voice. She is certainly a virtuoso at what she does. Behold, talent!!
Oh, and seriously people, don't you have anything better to do than create drama with people you do not know? Why not just relax, and enjoy some lovely music?
@Oddaudiblemadness Well, I do care, because there are people who think this is real opera instead of popera. I think the two genres should be kept separate. I don't think Kj has a beautiful voice. She's just a lot of hype thanks to her marketing people. Also, YouTube is a place for debate. Don't waste your wordes preaching to me.
Haha, youtube is always a battleground of words. Even over opera. Think of the time people could be spending enjoying music & videos, if they weren't still debating over a video they watched in the last few days. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion...
@Oddaudiblemadness This isn't opera, it's pop opera which is very different. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas in legitimate opera houses. and never use mics. Pop opera singers sing isolated arias and usually use a mic. Jenkins always has a mic. She has never been invited to sing a role in a complete opera.
KJ continues to get happier with her life, while her critics continue to get more bitter and twisted. The critics of Miss Jenkins especially arpeggio, obviously have an issue from childhood that may need addressing by a qualified psychotherapist. Or maybe arpeggio and her uncultured friends have not had nookie for years and its making them seek an angry release. Its understandable they choose to take their frustration out on a beautiful Welsh woman, especially if they are neglected sexually.
@truvianni eww, you voted for bush? i hope you didnt help re-elect him. voting for an idiot once is foolish; voting for the same one twie is just mental deficiency.
@13pangea speak for yourself I think things were not half as bad with Bush as they are with Obama but politics is a complicated issue and yes I voted for him twice, better Bush than a liberal big spender like Kerry. Of course who we Americans vote for is our business and we do not need to expalin or justify it to anybody let alone foreigners
@truvianni Bush is the best president you guys in the US ever had. He saved you from a millenium cult (Al Queda) that would have destroyed you just as Winston Churchill saved us europeans from Hitler's millenial cult. Who cares what all the politically correct say. He saw religious evil and he nipped it in the bud before it killed us all
@titarse100 I agree with you in part of course I do not live in America and have not been there in over 16 years so it is not like I even care but I see your point though what you are saying about Churchill is total nonsense as it was the red army of the Soviet Union that defeated Hitler.The British were in no condition to beat the Germany and would have been invaded if Hitler had really wanted to do it. Churchill was half American by the way on his mother's side.
@titarse100 So sorry, but Dubya is the worst president this country has ever had. He lied us into a war in Iraq, trashed the economy, and allowed Big Business to run unregulated, to say nothing of curtailing liberties, torturing prisoners, and making other countries hate us. Dick Cheney was even worse. Both of them should be tried as war criminals.
@arpeggio1358 I think you guys lied to yourselves about the war in Iraq. Wise up america. Better to occupy the highly inbred crazies in their own countries with a war than to have them on your own soil. What do you think you have an army for? It's to protect you from crazy societies and cultures. You think in 1000 years time the middle east will be at peace ? No it won't because its in their genes- look at how many prophets they had. Osama Bin Laden showed us one thing - what a biblical prophet
Respond to this video... was like...Moses, Jesus, Muhammed etc. All set on causing havoc and bringing about the end of the world. You folks in the USA are so innocent about the rest of the world and what life is like in our countries or the crazy people who "own" religion or who feel they are on a mission from God to rule. Bush kept us all safe as did your brave soldiers and the Brits too just as they did in WWII, Vietnam etc
@titarse100 Bush thought he was on a mission from God to rule. He said that "God wanted me to be President". Bush didn't keep anyone safe, most of all the thousands of U.S. soldiers who died needlessly in Iraq, to say nothing of the countless Iraqis who died needlessly also, so Dubya could go on his mission from God to keep our oil safe. Obama has been trying to clean up the mess Bush made, and trying to do it with the constant opposition from Republicans who want him to be a 1 term president.
@arpeggio1358 So what would you have done after 9/11 then? Negotiated with Al Queda and the Taliban? Do you really believe they are educated reasonable men like you or closer to stone age men or biblical men. These people bring trouble on themselves simply because they are highly in bred- always were. Look at Jesus in gethsemane..they all looked so alike they couldn't tell which one he was. Gaurantee you they have mental problems due to in breeding not problems due to USA policies.
@titarse100 I will not talk to an obvious bigot like you. You need to excamine your bigotry and get rid of it. I have blocked you and will no longer respond to someone who is such an obvious hater.
@arpeggio1358 Mister .... hello I'm suggesting that people wise up about the middle east . Their problem is through xenophobia and bigotry they have isolated themselves as a breeding population consistently throughout history. What they need is to outbreed i.e. abandon their isolation and mix with other cultures just as you, the most sucessful society on earth have done! That's why America is a success- you have mixed races and strong genetics.. learn a bit of population genetics man!!!!!
@titarse100 not that you asked me, but after 911, I would have detained Dick Cheney for questioning...indefinitely...along with everyone else in his little black book.
@operajoyous5 Previously, I had listened to Guaranca's version and when I first read your comment I thought it was mean. Then Jenkins started singing. Honestly, Bush might not be coherent, but even he would've sung this better :)
@operajoyous5 Previously, I had listened to Guaranca's version and when I first read your comment I thought it was mean. Then Jenkins started singing. Honestly, Bush might not be coherent, but even he would've sung this better :)
@ahmedeox She simply isn't an opera singer by any stretch of the imagination. Her voice, technique, and breathing are all pretty bad, to say nothing of that wobbly vibrato. I don't think operajoyous5 was being mean at all. What he or she said was an accurate statement. I like arpeggio1358's Top Comment, too.
She's quite marvelous. And unlike Sarah Brightman, until recently the most talented of cross-overs, Jenkins doesn't scoop and slide into notes but hits them right on. I'm a fan.
@Pywacket2 But then there's the way she audibly gulps for air when she breathes, her way too prominent vibrato, the way she forces in her lower register (to sound more like a mezzo when she's probably a soprano with no top notes), and her sloppy coloratura.
To all you people who call Kj's detractors haters and say we can't judge her: What qualifies you to say she's a good singer. Can you sing better than she can? If not, you can't make a judgement. Where are your CD's? Where are your degrees from the R.A.? BTW, KJ has never done anything in the opera world. She has never been invited to sing a role in an opera. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas. They don't sing isolated arias like KJ.
@TheLamazoo She sings isolated opera arias. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas, live in opera houses. Jenkins is a pop opera crossover singer and sings isolated arias (along with pure pop songs) in concert and on recordings. She sang a pop concert at Sydney. She would never be invited to sing a role in a complete opera. She hasn't the voice, technique or volume to be an opera singer. Pop opera and opera are two different genres. Please research this.
@TheLamazoo The "live" in that last comment is with a long "i" meaning that the operas are live, not on recording. Opera singers don't live in opera houses. :-) Her record deals are for recordings of isolated arias and pop songs. She would never be invited to record a complete role in an opera either. She isn't an opera singer.
@arpeggio1358 I understand your frustrations. Really, I do. But there is such a thing as "book smarts" in the singing of Classical music. Yes, one need not be a singer to know how opera is sung– or how Classical singing should sound like. Compare Ms. J's "Gypsy song" to Callas's rendition– you WILL hear the difference. For sure Ms. J can sing– but in opera, not YET.
@Rhopoe Look here, I've been studying opera for 40 years. KJ has not the voice, technique, nor training to sing opera AND NEVER EVER WILL! Learn something about opera before you make any more ignorant comments.
@arpeggio1358 Oh yea, about this one... Well, I must say I did misunderstand your posting before I had responded to it.– I should have followed your threads for sure... Anyway, it's disheartening about Ms. Jenkins. I don't care much for these "crossover" artists but, you do say she'll never sing opera? Do you think that if perhaps she had not been tempted into the mainstream end of the music business she could have had some chance being on stage? I'm just curious...
@Rhopoe Somehow, KJ got into the Royal Academy (a mistake maybe?) She either didn't learn or chose not to learn good technique. Also, I have a suspicion that she is really a soprano with no top notes rather than a mezzo. She forces her lower register to make it darker. She can't sing without a mic, and opera singers aren't amplified. At any rate, I don't think she could ever have been an opera singer.
@arpeggio1358 I did have the suspicion that had she not been as attractive as she is (conventionally speaking, i.e. blonde, svelte, &c.) she would not have attained whatever fame she has in the UK. Say, if she looked a bit like Montserrat Caballe (who is very beautiful indeed, but not by standards of the mainstream), and sang as poorly as she does, there's no way she'll be on any stage at all...
@Rhopoe I agree completely. Unfortunately, the popera fans don't have the ear to tell what a terrible singer Jenkins is. They keep on buying her CDs, drooling over her looks, and confusing popularity with greatness.
@arpeggio1358 True... KJ, Charlotte Church, Josh Groban (whose voice I find rather beautiful & actually hear potential in– but then again, I'm no expert), Jackie Evancho, & even Andrea Bocelli, & the whole lot... Reminds me a bit of people who drop out midway through a promising college career because they've already been offered a high-paying job.
why moan about her, none of you are able to judge her, she is the biggest selling mezzo of all time, shes one of the biggest singers in the world, she is clearly amazing. she has been the first person to do many things in opera so dont judge, SHE IS WAY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER MEZZO, THAT IS FACT DUE TO ALL THE AWARDS AND SO ON SHE HAS WON SO JUST SHUT UP!
@allthenamesrtook I'm sorry but you are confusing popularity with greatness. The two are not synonymous. Jenkins is popular due to a lot of hype from her publicity machine. Winning awards doesn't mean she's a great singer. It means that she's popular and sells a lot of CDs. Greatness is independent of popularity. Joyce DiDonato is a great mezzo. Jenkins is a popular pop opera performer.
I stopped listening to it at 1:38. Awful French. She's a disgrace to Bizet. Awful high notes. If it wasn't for TV, people like her would remain forever in the darkness of anonymity where they truly belong...
beautiful voice - not so good accent (in french). thats the problem in french operas - still she is very good, though i prefer maria callas, victoria de los angeles and giulietta simionato.
Hot with a voice? Compared with so many talentless personalities.....why not applaud someone with ability (whether we disagree on the totality of that talent)?
Those who "can't do" will write reviews. Would love to have the harsher critics stand next to her on stage and do better. Then, perhaps, they would have validated their opinions... As a musician, I've always taken this challenge.
@radiationraven Most of the world's great music critics aren't performers themselves, but they know a vast amount about music and are thus competent to critique. why do you pop opera fans have to be so nasty to people who disagree with you. I see people criticizing my favorite opera singers all the time, but I don't attack people who disagree with me. We aren't attacking KJ. We just don't like her voice and think she sings with poor technique. All opinions welcome on YouTube.
@arpeggio1358 A vast amount of knowledge about a subject that someone learns, making them competent, makes perfect sense. This I understand. But it would only be a credible critique if someone could do it better themselves in a proven and cosistent manner. For the record, you DID just attack someone who disagreed with you. You proved my point: Critics feel welcome to critique anything, but criticize a critic, and they take the gloves off!
@radiationraven You took the gloves off by being nasty to me. All I asked is why popera fans have to be so nasty when someone disagreew with them. Also, there are many credible critics who aren't performers themselves. This 'Show me that you can do better thing" is just another invalid buzz phrase. You and I will never agree about Jenkins, but we don't have to. All opinions welcome on YouTube.
@arpeggio1358 Ah, another invalid buzz phrase: All opinions are welcome. As long as they're yours, apparently. If you thought I was addressing you personally in my original comment, you need to check your ego. I didn't name names, just "Harsher Critcs." It was you who took it personally. You are obviously a person of great learning. Why offer criticism if unwilling to accept it yourself? I wasn't being "nasty" to anyone in my original comment. You made it personal. Why get so upset?
@radiationraven Not true. Voice teachers or ballet or piano or violin teachers of famous performers are rarely as good as people they teach, yet their critique is very credible. One can know a lot about the subject and hear the flaws in a particular performance without being able to do it themselves. If your neighbor is playing violin badly, you can tell it's bad without being able to play the violin yourself. If you consider critique unfair, you can always argue a specific point.
it's only words ...and words are all I have...to take your heart away..........Katherine please isntead reading what the others are writting , pay attention to me , the one who really love you more than any one!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Katjaheuzeroth Thank you fo saying this. I've been trying for years to convince people that Jenkins isn't an opera singer, that she doesn't have the technique, voice, or training to be an opera singer. If she actually went to the Royal Academy of music as her bio states, she sure didn't pay any attention to her voice teachers.
@arpeggio1358 Katherine Jenkins has had the training, years at prestigious R.C.Music is where they all go, also Katherine is a very shrewd woman, she has had plenty of good training since then that money can buy, includiung Placido Domingo. Katherine als is doing another series of teaching pop stars to sing opera. I am bewildered as to how she is able to teach others when she herself is not up to scratch.
@meeragrantham She apparently paid no attention to her teachers at R.A. Otherwise her technique would be better. I'm still amazed that she wasn't thrown out of R.A. I think she just doesn't care about singing properly as she makes lots of money. She obviously has a big ego and doesn't think rules apply to her. She's not qualified to teach anyone to sing, as she doesn't know how herself.
@veganazi If you prefer Elina, why not go to her webpage then??? You critics obviously like causing trouble. You must hate your life so much you try to spread negativity where you can. The truth is, you do NOT like Garanca enough to take you away from KJ. Your obsession with Miss Jenkins for negative reasons,and MY obsession with Miss Jenkins for positive reasons, is all a great compliment to her.
@VinnyLog Ah, the "if you don't like it, don't watch it" argument. Just how is one expected to know if they like an artist/video before exposing oneself to it? Ah, but you're too busy trying to stir up trouble on YouTube to attempt logical thinking.
@veganazi I've heard the stupid "If you don't like it, don't watch it" argument so many times I could scream. It has no validity. The popera fans have all sorts of invalid arguments to discredit people who don't agree with them about their pop favorites, who they think are real opera singers. As fo this one, Bizet must be spining in his grave.
@zilvital No, pero podemos compararla con Elina Garanca or Rinat Shaham or Jennifer Larmore or Olga Borodina or todas las cantantes que cantan en operas. Todas cantan esta aria mucho mejor que Jenkins. Jenkins no es una cantante de opera porque no puede cantar en opera sin microfono y no podria nunca cantar en opera. Su voz no es mal - para "classical crossover" pero no es bastante buena por opera. Tambien le falta expresividad. En la realidad no estoy segura que sea mezzo.
supongo q pagan solo para mirarla,creo que hay comentarios demas,en esta seccion...algunos pagan por su belleza,y su calida voz no esta tan mal,y coinsido puede mejorar---:
@arpeggio1358 What I do not understand is why does this woman who clearly has no classical training even want to sing opera.Why can't she just sing pop and broadway which is both easier and makes more money and were fans will not really notice her mistakes.At least Boyle is not singing or at least that I know of; La Traviata well that is another issue but yes you are right about her
@truvianni I think she enjoys flaunting her Royal Academy education (where she got a teaching credential rather than a degree in vocal performance). She has a big ego and likes being called an opera singer, which she's not. Boyle, on the other hand is a true musical wonder. She has a marvelous voice and sticks to her genre.
@arpeggio1358 Haven't you found a life for yerself yet? Still hiding behind a computer like an OBSESSIVE. All that cash you wasted on vocal lessons. Remember the GIANT SHADOW KJ is casting over you!!! Goodbye loser!!!
@truvianni That I will give Boyle that she is not bad and knows her limitations. I do not even find Jenkins attractive well Brits are not really beautiful or at least not in my opinion, I think she has good make and is young but I would hardly say she is beautiful and in a few years even her looks will be gone.I am a writer by the way and wrote a book about opera called "New York's Opera Society" perhaps you can google it.
@truvianni You and arpeggio are both sick in the head. Your lives are controlled by jealousy. You both are failures and that makes you attack an artist out of jealousy. You and arpeggio are probably ugly, hence your distorted views of Kath Jenkins. arpeggio prob' looks like Susan Boyle. What a second rate singer SHE is. She couldnt even win Britains got talent. She messed up on stage/cracked up. Did arpeggio tell you she wasted loads of money on singing lessons? You critics are NOBODYS.
@VinnyLog I know it is hard for mediocre people like yourself to accept that those you admire have no talent but ask anybody who knows anything about singing and they will tell you the same if they speak the truth.As for being ugly so is Jenkins I mean maybe in the UK where women are ugly she is considered attractive but she is just cheap make up and nothing more and as for being nobody that is what I would say about you and that tart who tries to pass herself of as an opera singer.
@truvianni You reckon youre cultured? NOTHING OF THE SORT. Cultured people dont make derogatory and racist comments against artists. You are just an ignoramous!!! You are jealous of those you criticise!!! Grow up, be a man.
@VinnyLog Say what you want and think what you will, it makes no difference to me or changes my mind about anything. As it goes “stick and stones may break my bones but you won't even come close" so I will leave you as there is no point to continuing this conversation.Of course coming from England, a country that lacks not only culture but music beyond three chord imitations of America music, your comments are what can be expected.
@arpeggio1358 Since this positively brilliant and wonderful comment has 85 votes up, why isn't it the top rated comment on this site? The inspiration for this comment was critic, Dorothy Parker's, remark that in a particular play, Kathariine Hepburn's performance ran the gamut of emotions from A to B.
Her pronunciation is...weird. It is so perfect it cannot be pure operatic voice. Only Alagna can pronounce R's in the French manner, and he is a bad singer.
@LordHettrick He's ben painful for some time. Stomping off the stage a few years ago in Aida when he was booed, was quite unprofessional. Of course, on the other hand he may have felt the audience wanted him to leave. :-)
@LordHettrick I lucked out on Don Carlo (live performance) at the Met: I had Yonghoon Lee as Don Carlo and he was outstanding. At first I was wondering if I should choose a performance with Alagna, but the date wasn't convenient. Turned out for the best. But... whatever one can say about Alagna, he is still a legitimate opera singer (I do like some of his arias here e.g. from Werther), not to be mentioned alongside Jenkins.
@zilvital I'm aware that she's a mezzo-soprano. It has nothing to do with the separation of opera and popera as genres. I don't think you understand what I've been saying.
@zilvital Opera and popera are musical genres. They're not voice classifications. Please get someone who speaks English to explain my coments to you, as I don't think you understand what I've been saying. Mezzo-soprano is a voice classification, like soprano, bass, tenor, baritone, etc. Opera, popera, rock, country, etc. are musical genres.
@arpeggio1358 yo entiendo de clasificaciones,pero considero que no hay que exigir a una mezzo..que cante como soprano,usted se confunde en su descripcion sobre la señorita kate...la popera no existe.
@zilvital Pop opera (popera) singers are pop singers like Jenkins who sing opera arias. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas in opera houses and sing without a microphone. Opera and popera are separate genres. Ms Jenkins is a popera singer. Therer's nothing wrong with this. It just means she isn't an opera singer. Once again, opera and popera are two very different genres.
@zilvital Ópera pop (popera) cantantes son cantantes pop como Jenkins, quien canta arias de ópera. Cantantes de ópera cantando roles en óperas completas en teatros de ópera y cantar sin micrófono. Opera y popera son géneros distintos. Sra. Jenkins es una cantante popera. Nada de malo con esta Therer es. Sólo significa que no es una cantante de ópera. Una vez más, la ópera y popera son dos géneros muy diferentes.
@zilvital All i've asked is that opera and popera be kept as separate genres. They both have merit, but should be separate, as they have different voice types, standards, technique, and training. Your rudeness is not warranted.
@arthurock6 She would need a lot of training and would have to learn the proper technique to be a good classical/opera singer. Unfortunately, i don't think she is capable of learning these things, or she would have learned them during her time at the R.A. Also she needs to learn to sing without a microphone, as oepra singers never use them except in large outdoor venues with poor acoustics. Jenkins always uses a microphone.
@arpeggio1358 They have recently spent a fortune on acoustics at Convent Garden but I don't think it would help Katherine, she is not able to project her voice.
@meeragrantham You might enjoy the "We Love Katherine Jenkins" blog. It's wonderful...and brilliantly produced. Just google "We Love Katherine Jenkins".
@RonaldBarone I checked out the Callas version and you are right, Callas has better pronounciations, a stronger voice and does a better version of this beautiful song. But, like you say Jenkins version is good, and I do like her version!! I feel so bad comparing two great musical artists as I feel that is unfair!! Enjoy!
@TheMattprune There are zillion versions that are better than this one, not just Callas. Check out Rinat Shaham, Elina Garanca, Jennifer Larmore, Denyce Graves - all today's singers, not past ones. If you only listen to one or two singers I can see why you don't see why people are criticizing Jenkins, but if you listen to many versions, you'll be able to understand where people are coming from. You can even type "gypsy song Carmen" and listen to many versions. See how many are better than this.
@jewelmarkess (cont) (Sorry, my previous post was meant for jewelmarkess.) One of my biggest concerns is that Jackie follows the same path as these opera singers and winds up sounding just like them. There's just not that much difference between them that I can tell. And as for Jenkins, If you don't like what your sense of hearing is doing for you, then there's always the sense of sight. Most gorgeous woman I have ever set my eyes on. Also she entertains for our military heroes. Go Kathrine.
@adventurous63 If you don't hear the difference between opera singers, then your ears are probably not good enough to distinguish voices. As to Jackie's sounding just like them, I think it'd be great. Opera singers don't just sing the notes, they actually express what they sing. Jackie has potential, and I think it'd be great if she goes into opera. As to the looks, I think both Garanca and Shaham look just as good, and can actually sing this aria as it should be sung and be expressive.
@jewelmarkess If you read my post correctly, you will see that I didn't say I cannot hear the difference. I said there is not much difference. At least for now Jackies voice has a soothing quality that opera singers don't have. This quality is in large part what has brought her almost overnight stardom. I really think you are all just jealous of her abilities. She is such a well rounded individual that she will excel, regardless of what career path she follows.
@adventurous63 If you say that there is not much difference between opera singers it means that you don't hear the difference. For many of us, there is a lot of individual differences. I think Jackie is very talented with a rare gift, I've never ever said anything negative about Jackie only that it'd be great if she goes into opera. So I don't know where your "jealosy" remark is coming from. BTW - it seems like the only real opera singer you heard is Callas, and many don't like her voice.
@adventurous63 Jackie's voice is going to change in some way as she grows up. But if she learns classical technique, it'll help her in whichever path she takes - opera singers preserve their voices far longer than pop singers. If Jackie becomes an opera singer, you may still like her grown up voice. There are more individual differences among opera singers that you realize, and many people like some opera singers but don't like others. Again, all my criticism was against Jenkins not Jackie.
@jewelmarkess Obviously David Foster likes Jenkins and I've heard of him, but I haven't heard of you. You won't find me going to some opera singers channel and belittling them the way you do Jenkins. Go rain on some one elses parade.
@adventurous63 Have I even claimed to be a performer? I am a software engineer, but I am an opera fan and have heard some of the best and can compare. I bet if you don't like some computer software you'd be the first to criticize software engineers like me even if you couldn't write software yourself, woudln't you? You don't need to be a professional in a field to criticize professionals in that field. I bet you criticize writers all the time or architects, maybe singers you don't like too.
@adventurous63 I don't know whom David Foster likes or dislikes. He is a pop performer, he isn't an opera fan. Not to mention that he is a male, and she is a beautiful woman. But this is an opera aria not a pop song, and Jenkins doesn't sing it anywhere near opera level. Tell me this, if she'd been 40ish and overweight, would you still like her?
@TheMattprune Ms. Jenkins doesn't really qualify as a musical artist. Please do as jewelmarkess has suggested and listen to ssome of the real opera singers she has suggested and hear how this should really be sung. Jenkins is a pop singer who sings opera arias, not a real opera singer.
@arpeggio1358 Well, I'm just your "Joe lunch bucket" kind of guy, but I do have a very good ear. I found my way here because I've been following Jackie Evancho and took the advice of some of you opera snobs and have been listening to some of these women you think are so great and I can tell you I don't care for any of them except maybe Sissel and Westenra. I find Callas to have something particularly irritating about her voice. Jackies voice has an angelic quality about it (cont.)
@adventurous63 I'm sorry, but we never recommended either Sissel or Westenra, who are not opera singers either. I don't like Callas myself and think that many people are too caught up in her legend to hear her voice as it really was. Jackie Evancho has some real potential as an opera singer. The color and maturity in her voice are really rare in one so young. (cont)
@adventurous63 (part 2) I just hope that Jackie gets a good teacher so she will learn proper singing technique. I also hope that Jackie's parents don't get all caught up in having her make money and don't push her into a career too soon, and take the chance of damaging her voice by not learning how to sing correctly first.
@arpeggio1358 I will listen to a few other Opera Singers, but I think there is a little snobbery here, which I dissaprove of. She can still sing right? Better than I can and perhaps you? So, who are we to judge when some many people get pleasure from here singing - just saying :-)
@TheMattprune She can sing, but if she's going to sing opera material she should be judged by the same standards as opera singers are. Yes, she's got a nice voice, but her singing is not of opera quality. It's just that opera and popera shouldn't be confused as genres. Both have merit.
c est juste une jolie fille....
nanard111 1 week ago
you can not compare her to callas ffs 2 totally different voices but could callas sing Angel?? like katherine can , i like her voice it has a warmth to it, a fullness.
kadeespatch 2 weeks ago
really pretty cute gal, but I got impatient listening to her after Elina Garanca. I can see why people say that Jenkins will never sing in an opera.
bjou520 1 month ago
21 people are uncultured!
MJHYFDDCX 1 month ago
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Can you name me one opera she has acted in!! only i cant find one ..if she hasn't then she is only a aria singer..like susan boyle...I hope you can give this approval thanks.. Jed
justabrit 2 months ago
@justabrit Susan Boyle is purely a pop singer, not an aria singer. She has never sung arias. Jenkins has never sung in an opera and never will.
arpeggio1358 1 month ago
better than callas.
very good singing quality. i don't care much for her looks.
EnigmaticOricle 2 months ago
@EnigmaticOricle BETTER THAN CALLAS??? U have to be kidding O.o
kippyambar14 1 month ago
@kippyambar14 Excuse me for being a prick, but u can't be serious but Callas is a goddess O.o Kat sings well yes but she is not and never will be better than maria callas...
kippyambar14 1 month ago
@kippyambar14 Yep, Callas is very overrated :)
i like her, in terms of style and personality, but vocally very overrated. on second hearing this version isn't that great either though.
EnigmaticOricle 1 month ago
holly shit she's good I'm gonna go buy a cd now
marcial1152 2 months ago
Oh yea Opera jealious, like OB can speak with out a teleprompter.
jkhansun 3 months ago
@jkhansun Teleprompters don't amplify the voice. Microphones do. Jenkins doesn't have the volume to sing without a mic. Opera singers never use mics. They have learned to project their voices without amplification.
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laldonpicard 3 months ago
Oh my god- she's not supposed to be an opera singer, she's a classical singer. Give the girl a break!
hannahloveshistory 3 months ago 2
@hannahloveshistory A classical singer sings classical music. Which means lieder, operas or grand scale classical works (masses, symphonies, cantatas, etc.). Not arias. Operas.
LordHettrick 3 months ago
She's gorgeous.
KenMacMillan 3 months ago
Whatever people... Apart from being a very good looking lady, Katherine Jenkins is absolutely a singer with an outstanding voice. She is certainly a virtuoso at what she does. Behold, talent!!
alansw5 4 months ago 2
Is she singing a shopping list? Mezzo forte from A to Z, no accentuation, no changes in tone/intonation. Nothing. Seriously.
LordHettrick 4 months ago
she is great !
eblanco78 4 months ago
Oh, and seriously people, don't you have anything better to do than create drama with people you do not know? Why not just relax, and enjoy some lovely music?
Lunar3Eclipse 4 months ago
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@Oddaudiblemadness Well, I do care, because there are people who think this is real opera instead of popera. I think the two genres should be kept separate. I don't think Kj has a beautiful voice. She's just a lot of hype thanks to her marketing people. Also, YouTube is a place for debate. Don't waste your wordes preaching to me.
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arpeggio1358 4 months ago
Haha, youtube is always a battleground of words. Even over opera. Think of the time people could be spending enjoying music & videos, if they weren't still debating over a video they watched in the last few days. Everybody's entitled to their own opinion...
Oddaudiblemadness 5 months ago
@Oddaudiblemadness This isn't opera, it's pop opera which is very different. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas in legitimate opera houses. and never use mics. Pop opera singers sing isolated arias and usually use a mic. Jenkins always has a mic. She has never been invited to sing a role in a complete opera.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@Oddaudiblemadness Praise God, someone on here still has some sense in their skull. I couldn't have stated it better.
Lunar3Eclipse 4 months ago
KJ continues to get happier with her life, while her critics continue to get more bitter and twisted. The critics of Miss Jenkins especially arpeggio, obviously have an issue from childhood that may need addressing by a qualified psychotherapist. Or maybe arpeggio and her uncultured friends have not had nookie for years and its making them seek an angry release. Its understandable they choose to take their frustration out on a beautiful Welsh woman, especially if they are neglected sexually.
VinnyLog 5 months ago
@operajoyous5 well I voted for Bush but I do agree with the part about Jenkins
truvianni 5 months ago
@truvianni eww, you voted for bush? i hope you didnt help re-elect him. voting for an idiot once is foolish; voting for the same one twie is just mental deficiency.
13pangea 4 months ago
@13pangea speak for yourself I think things were not half as bad with Bush as they are with Obama but politics is a complicated issue and yes I voted for him twice, better Bush than a liberal big spender like Kerry. Of course who we Americans vote for is our business and we do not need to expalin or justify it to anybody let alone foreigners
truvianni 4 months ago
@truvianni Bush is the best president you guys in the US ever had. He saved you from a millenium cult (Al Queda) that would have destroyed you just as Winston Churchill saved us europeans from Hitler's millenial cult. Who cares what all the politically correct say. He saw religious evil and he nipped it in the bud before it killed us all
titarse100 4 months ago
@titarse100 I agree with you in part of course I do not live in America and have not been there in over 16 years so it is not like I even care but I see your point though what you are saying about Churchill is total nonsense as it was the red army of the Soviet Union that defeated Hitler.The British were in no condition to beat the Germany and would have been invaded if Hitler had really wanted to do it. Churchill was half American by the way on his mother's side.
truvianni 4 months ago
@titarse100 So sorry, but Dubya is the worst president this country has ever had. He lied us into a war in Iraq, trashed the economy, and allowed Big Business to run unregulated, to say nothing of curtailing liberties, torturing prisoners, and making other countries hate us. Dick Cheney was even worse. Both of them should be tried as war criminals.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@arpeggio1358 I think you guys lied to yourselves about the war in Iraq. Wise up america. Better to occupy the highly inbred crazies in their own countries with a war than to have them on your own soil. What do you think you have an army for? It's to protect you from crazy societies and cultures. You think in 1000 years time the middle east will be at peace ? No it won't because its in their genes- look at how many prophets they had. Osama Bin Laden showed us one thing - what a biblical prophet
titarse100 4 months ago
Respond to this video... was like...Moses, Jesus, Muhammed etc. All set on causing havoc and bringing about the end of the world. You folks in the USA are so innocent about the rest of the world and what life is like in our countries or the crazy people who "own" religion or who feel they are on a mission from God to rule. Bush kept us all safe as did your brave soldiers and the Brits too just as they did in WWII, Vietnam etc
titarse100 4 months ago
@titarse100 Bush thought he was on a mission from God to rule. He said that "God wanted me to be President". Bush didn't keep anyone safe, most of all the thousands of U.S. soldiers who died needlessly in Iraq, to say nothing of the countless Iraqis who died needlessly also, so Dubya could go on his mission from God to keep our oil safe. Obama has been trying to clean up the mess Bush made, and trying to do it with the constant opposition from Republicans who want him to be a 1 term president.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@arpeggio1358 So what would you have done after 9/11 then? Negotiated with Al Queda and the Taliban? Do you really believe they are educated reasonable men like you or closer to stone age men or biblical men. These people bring trouble on themselves simply because they are highly in bred- always were. Look at Jesus in gethsemane..they all looked so alike they couldn't tell which one he was. Gaurantee you they have mental problems due to in breeding not problems due to USA policies.
titarse100 4 months ago
@titarse100 I will not talk to an obvious bigot like you. You need to excamine your bigotry and get rid of it. I have blocked you and will no longer respond to someone who is such an obvious hater.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Mister .... hello I'm suggesting that people wise up about the middle east . Their problem is through xenophobia and bigotry they have isolated themselves as a breeding population consistently throughout history. What they need is to outbreed i.e. abandon their isolation and mix with other cultures just as you, the most sucessful society on earth have done! That's why America is a success- you have mixed races and strong genetics.. learn a bit of population genetics man!!!!!
titarse100 4 months ago
@titarse100 not that you asked me, but after 911, I would have detained Dick Cheney for questioning...indefinitely...along with everyone else in his little black book.
NoSheep2 3 months ago
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@operajoyous5 Previously, I had listened to Guaranca's version and when I first read your comment I thought it was mean. Then Jenkins started singing. Honestly, Bush might not be coherent, but even he would've sung this better :)
ahmedeox 5 months ago
@operajoyous5 Previously, I had listened to Guaranca's version and when I first read your comment I thought it was mean. Then Jenkins started singing. Honestly, Bush might not be coherent, but even he would've sung this better :)
ahmedeox 5 months ago
@ahmedeox She simply isn't an opera singer by any stretch of the imagination. Her voice, technique, and breathing are all pretty bad, to say nothing of that wobbly vibrato. I don't think operajoyous5 was being mean at all. What he or she said was an accurate statement. I like arpeggio1358's Top Comment, too.
pucciniverdi777 5 months ago
@operajoyous5 you my friend.. Are my hero
breakaliciouskid786 5 months ago
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@breakaliciouskid786 operajoyous5 is my hero too. He or she really has Jenkins in her proper place...far away form opera!
pucciniverdi777 5 months ago
She's quite marvelous. And unlike Sarah Brightman, until recently the most talented of cross-overs, Jenkins doesn't scoop and slide into notes but hits them right on. I'm a fan.
Pywacket2 5 months ago
@Pywacket2 But then there's the way she audibly gulps for air when she breathes, her way too prominent vibrato, the way she forces in her lower register (to sound more like a mezzo when she's probably a soprano with no top notes), and her sloppy coloratura.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago
To all you people who call Kj's detractors haters and say we can't judge her: What qualifies you to say she's a good singer. Can you sing better than she can? If not, you can't make a judgement. Where are your CD's? Where are your degrees from the R.A.? BTW, KJ has never done anything in the opera world. She has never been invited to sing a role in an opera. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas. They don't sing isolated arias like KJ.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago 8
@arpeggio1358 she has actually at the Sydney opera house and apparently has the biggest record deal in the UK for opera singing
TheLamazoo 2 months ago
@TheLamazoo She sings isolated opera arias. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas, live in opera houses. Jenkins is a pop opera crossover singer and sings isolated arias (along with pure pop songs) in concert and on recordings. She sang a pop concert at Sydney. She would never be invited to sing a role in a complete opera. She hasn't the voice, technique or volume to be an opera singer. Pop opera and opera are two different genres. Please research this.
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@TheLamazoo The "live" in that last comment is with a long "i" meaning that the operas are live, not on recording. Opera singers don't live in opera houses. :-) Her record deals are for recordings of isolated arias and pop songs. She would never be invited to record a complete role in an opera either. She isn't an opera singer.
arpeggio1358 2 months ago
@arpeggio1358 I understand your frustrations. Really, I do. But there is such a thing as "book smarts" in the singing of Classical music. Yes, one need not be a singer to know how opera is sung– or how Classical singing should sound like. Compare Ms. J's "Gypsy song" to Callas's rendition– you WILL hear the difference. For sure Ms. J can sing– but in opera, not YET.
Rhopoe 2 months ago
@Rhopoe Look here, I've been studying opera for 40 years. KJ has not the voice, technique, nor training to sing opera AND NEVER EVER WILL! Learn something about opera before you make any more ignorant comments.
arpeggio1358 2 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Oh yea, about this one... Well, I must say I did misunderstand your posting before I had responded to it.– I should have followed your threads for sure... Anyway, it's disheartening about Ms. Jenkins. I don't care much for these "crossover" artists but, you do say she'll never sing opera? Do you think that if perhaps she had not been tempted into the mainstream end of the music business she could have had some chance being on stage? I'm just curious...
Rhopoe 2 months ago
@Rhopoe Somehow, KJ got into the Royal Academy (a mistake maybe?) She either didn't learn or chose not to learn good technique. Also, I have a suspicion that she is really a soprano with no top notes rather than a mezzo. She forces her lower register to make it darker. She can't sing without a mic, and opera singers aren't amplified. At any rate, I don't think she could ever have been an opera singer.
arpeggio1358 2 months ago
@arpeggio1358 I did have the suspicion that had she not been as attractive as she is (conventionally speaking, i.e. blonde, svelte, &c.) she would not have attained whatever fame she has in the UK. Say, if she looked a bit like Montserrat Caballe (who is very beautiful indeed, but not by standards of the mainstream), and sang as poorly as she does, there's no way she'll be on any stage at all...
Rhopoe 2 months ago
@Rhopoe I agree completely. Unfortunately, the popera fans don't have the ear to tell what a terrible singer Jenkins is. They keep on buying her CDs, drooling over her looks, and confusing popularity with greatness.
arpeggio1358 2 months ago
@arpeggio1358 True... KJ, Charlotte Church, Josh Groban (whose voice I find rather beautiful & actually hear potential in– but then again, I'm no expert), Jackie Evancho, & even Andrea Bocelli, & the whole lot... Reminds me a bit of people who drop out midway through a promising college career because they've already been offered a high-paying job.
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arpeggio1358 2 months ago
@Rhopoe As I said months ago, "To paraphrase Dorothy Parker, Katherine Jenkins runs the gamut of vocal abilities from C cup to D cup."
arpeggio1358 2 months ago
why moan about her, none of you are able to judge her, she is the biggest selling mezzo of all time, shes one of the biggest singers in the world, she is clearly amazing. she has been the first person to do many things in opera so dont judge, SHE IS WAY BETTER THAN ANY OTHER MEZZO, THAT IS FACT DUE TO ALL THE AWARDS AND SO ON SHE HAS WON SO JUST SHUT UP!
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@allthenamesrtook I'm sorry but you are confusing popularity with greatness. The two are not synonymous. Jenkins is popular due to a lot of hype from her publicity machine. Winning awards doesn't mean she's a great singer. It means that she's popular and sells a lot of CDs. Greatness is independent of popularity. Joyce DiDonato is a great mezzo. Jenkins is a popular pop opera performer.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago 10
I stopped listening to it at 1:38. Awful French. She's a disgrace to Bizet. Awful high notes. If it wasn't for TV, people like her would remain forever in the darkness of anonymity where they truly belong...
sadella 6 months ago 4
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lol If Katherine Jenkins was the only option in opera i would NEVER listen to it!!!
17sunnyhour 6 months ago 5
beautiful voice - not so good accent (in french). thats the problem in french operas - still she is very good, though i prefer maria callas, victoria de los angeles and giulietta simionato.
houhoug79 6 months ago
Hot with a voice? Compared with so many talentless personalities.....why not applaud someone with ability (whether we disagree on the totality of that talent)?
skiprydell1 8 months ago
Those who "can't do" will write reviews. Would love to have the harsher critics stand next to her on stage and do better. Then, perhaps, they would have validated their opinions... As a musician, I've always taken this challenge.
radiationraven 8 months ago
@radiationraven Most of the world's great music critics aren't performers themselves, but they know a vast amount about music and are thus competent to critique. why do you pop opera fans have to be so nasty to people who disagree with you. I see people criticizing my favorite opera singers all the time, but I don't attack people who disagree with me. We aren't attacking KJ. We just don't like her voice and think she sings with poor technique. All opinions welcome on YouTube.
arpeggio1358 8 months ago 6
@arpeggio1358 A vast amount of knowledge about a subject that someone learns, making them competent, makes perfect sense. This I understand. But it would only be a credible critique if someone could do it better themselves in a proven and cosistent manner. For the record, you DID just attack someone who disagreed with you. You proved my point: Critics feel welcome to critique anything, but criticize a critic, and they take the gloves off!
radiationraven 8 months ago 4
@radiationraven You took the gloves off by being nasty to me. All I asked is why popera fans have to be so nasty when someone disagreew with them. Also, there are many credible critics who aren't performers themselves. This 'Show me that you can do better thing" is just another invalid buzz phrase. You and I will never agree about Jenkins, but we don't have to. All opinions welcome on YouTube.
arpeggio1358 8 months ago 5
@arpeggio1358 Ah, another invalid buzz phrase: All opinions are welcome. As long as they're yours, apparently. If you thought I was addressing you personally in my original comment, you need to check your ego. I didn't name names, just "Harsher Critcs." It was you who took it personally. You are obviously a person of great learning. Why offer criticism if unwilling to accept it yourself? I wasn't being "nasty" to anyone in my original comment. You made it personal. Why get so upset?
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arpeggio1358 8 months ago 39
@radiationraven Not true. Voice teachers or ballet or piano or violin teachers of famous performers are rarely as good as people they teach, yet their critique is very credible. One can know a lot about the subject and hear the flaws in a particular performance without being able to do it themselves. If your neighbor is playing violin badly, you can tell it's bad without being able to play the violin yourself. If you consider critique unfair, you can always argue a specific point.
jewelmarkess 8 months ago 2
no ariculation..how about adding even MORE reverb???pop stars to opera??
bassocantante 9 months ago
it's only words ...and words are all I have...to take your heart away..........Katherine please isntead reading what the others are writting , pay attention to me , the one who really love you more than any one!!!!!!!!!!!!!
54321thebeatles 9 months ago
SEND ME A POSTCARD...DROP ME A LINE ....
54321thebeatles 9 months ago
I MA ENREV RITED FO LVIONG KATHERINE .....
54321thebeatles 9 months ago
This does just not sound good to me. I much prefer Elina Garanca.
veganazi 10 months ago
@veganazi that is because Elina is an opera singer and this Lady is NOT!
Katjaheuzeroth 9 months ago
@Katjaheuzeroth Thank you fo saying this. I've been trying for years to convince people that Jenkins isn't an opera singer, that she doesn't have the technique, voice, or training to be an opera singer. If she actually went to the Royal Academy of music as her bio states, she sure didn't pay any attention to her voice teachers.
arpeggio1358 9 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Katherine Jenkins has had the training, years at prestigious R.C.Music is where they all go, also Katherine is a very shrewd woman, she has had plenty of good training since then that money can buy, includiung Placido Domingo. Katherine als is doing another series of teaching pop stars to sing opera. I am bewildered as to how she is able to teach others when she herself is not up to scratch.
meeragrantham 9 months ago
@meeragrantham She apparently paid no attention to her teachers at R.A. Otherwise her technique would be better. I'm still amazed that she wasn't thrown out of R.A. I think she just doesn't care about singing properly as she makes lots of money. She obviously has a big ego and doesn't think rules apply to her. She's not qualified to teach anyone to sing, as she doesn't know how herself.
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jewelmarkess 8 months ago
@meeragrantham Oops, I think I missed the subtle irony in your comment.
jewelmarkess 8 months ago
@veganazi If you prefer Elina, why not go to her webpage then??? You critics obviously like causing trouble. You must hate your life so much you try to spread negativity where you can. The truth is, you do NOT like Garanca enough to take you away from KJ. Your obsession with Miss Jenkins for negative reasons,and MY obsession with Miss Jenkins for positive reasons, is all a great compliment to her.
VinnyLog 5 months ago
@VinnyLog Ah, the "if you don't like it, don't watch it" argument. Just how is one expected to know if they like an artist/video before exposing oneself to it? Ah, but you're too busy trying to stir up trouble on YouTube to attempt logical thinking.
veganazi 5 months ago
@veganazi I've heard the stupid "If you don't like it, don't watch it" argument so many times I could scream. It has no validity. The popera fans have all sorts of invalid arguments to discredit people who don't agree with them about their pop favorites, who they think are real opera singers. As fo this one, Bizet must be spining in his grave.
arpeggio1358 4 months ago
Oi! I hate how she cuts her notes so short!!! I have sang this many times and there is no fire in this song the way she is singing it!
tiffpitt27 11 months ago
es una mezzo,por fabor no comparar con maria callas..:)
zilvital 11 months ago
@zilvital No, pero podemos compararla con Elina Garanca or Rinat Shaham or Jennifer Larmore or Olga Borodina or todas las cantantes que cantan en operas. Todas cantan esta aria mucho mejor que Jenkins. Jenkins no es una cantante de opera porque no puede cantar en opera sin microfono y no podria nunca cantar en opera. Su voz no es mal - para "classical crossover" pero no es bastante buena por opera. Tambien le falta expresividad. En la realidad no estoy segura que sea mezzo.
jewelmarkess 11 months ago
Mezzo soprano
zilvital 11 months ago
supongo q pagan solo para mirarla,creo que hay comentarios demas,en esta seccion...algunos pagan por su belleza,y su calida voz no esta tan mal,y coinsido puede mejorar---:
zilvital 11 months ago
I like her singing traditional opera arias too!
MarietteDavina 1 year ago
@MarietteDavina Check out Elina Garanca singing this or Rinat Shaham. Then see if you still like her.
jewelmarkess 11 months ago
@MarietteDavina I agree with jewelmarkess. Please check out these other singers, who are real opera singers, and then see if you still like Jenkins.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago
Like I said, go rain on some one elses parade.
adventurous63 1 year ago 7
@adventurous63 YES IT'S THE SAME STALKER EVERYTIME ON KJ PAGES, THEY SHOULD BE REPORTED AS SERIAL STALKERS.....NASTY NASTY PEOPLE THAT THEY ARE
SuperDonna888 1 year ago 4
To paraphrase Dorothy Parker, Katherine Jenkins runs the gamut of vocal abilities from C cup to D cup.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago 94
@arpeggio1358 clever and very true
truvianni 5 months ago
@truvianni Glad you liked it, but I'm not so sure her talents even stretch that far.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago
@arpeggio1358 What I do not understand is why does this woman who clearly has no classical training even want to sing opera.Why can't she just sing pop and broadway which is both easier and makes more money and were fans will not really notice her mistakes.At least Boyle is not singing or at least that I know of; La Traviata well that is another issue but yes you are right about her
truvianni 5 months ago
@truvianni I think she enjoys flaunting her Royal Academy education (where she got a teaching credential rather than a degree in vocal performance). She has a big ego and likes being called an opera singer, which she's not. Boyle, on the other hand is a true musical wonder. She has a marvelous voice and sticks to her genre.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Haven't you found a life for yerself yet? Still hiding behind a computer like an OBSESSIVE. All that cash you wasted on vocal lessons. Remember the GIANT SHADOW KJ is casting over you!!! Goodbye loser!!!
VinnyLog 5 months ago
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@VinnyLog Haven't you stopped stalking me? You are the loser, O obsessed one, obsessed with KJ. Have you no life? Goodbye biggest loser.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago
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@truvianni That I will give Boyle that she is not bad and knows her limitations. I do not even find Jenkins attractive well Brits are not really beautiful or at least not in my opinion, I think she has good make and is young but I would hardly say she is beautiful and in a few years even her looks will be gone.I am a writer by the way and wrote a book about opera called "New York's Opera Society" perhaps you can google it.
truvianni 5 months ago
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@truvianni You and arpeggio are both sick in the head. Your lives are controlled by jealousy. You both are failures and that makes you attack an artist out of jealousy. You and arpeggio are probably ugly, hence your distorted views of Kath Jenkins. arpeggio prob' looks like Susan Boyle. What a second rate singer SHE is. She couldnt even win Britains got talent. She messed up on stage/cracked up. Did arpeggio tell you she wasted loads of money on singing lessons? You critics are NOBODYS.
VinnyLog 5 months ago 3
@VinnyLog I know it is hard for mediocre people like yourself to accept that those you admire have no talent but ask anybody who knows anything about singing and they will tell you the same if they speak the truth.As for being ugly so is Jenkins I mean maybe in the UK where women are ugly she is considered attractive but she is just cheap make up and nothing more and as for being nobody that is what I would say about you and that tart who tries to pass herself of as an opera singer.
truvianni 5 months ago
@truvianni I googled your book, and it looks like a very good read!
arpeggio1358 5 months ago
@arpeggio1358 thank you or like we say in Poland dziekuje for your comments on my book "New York's Opera society"
truvianni 5 months ago
@truvianni You're very welcome.
arpeggio1358 5 months ago
@truvianni You reckon youre cultured? NOTHING OF THE SORT. Cultured people dont make derogatory and racist comments against artists. You are just an ignoramous!!! You are jealous of those you criticise!!! Grow up, be a man.
VinnyLog 5 months ago 3
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@VinnyLog Say what you want and think what you will, it makes no difference to me or changes my mind about anything. As it goes “stick and stones may break my bones but you won't even come close" so I will leave you as there is no point to continuing this conversation.Of course coming from England, a country that lacks not only culture but music beyond three chord imitations of America music, your comments are what can be expected.
truvianni 5 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Since this positively brilliant and wonderful comment has 85 votes up, why isn't it the top rated comment on this site? The inspiration for this comment was critic, Dorothy Parker's, remark that in a particular play, Kathariine Hepburn's performance ran the gamut of emotions from A to B.
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arpeggio1358 4 months ago
Her pronunciation is...weird. It is so perfect it cannot be pure operatic voice. Only Alagna can pronounce R's in the French manner, and he is a bad singer.
LordHettrick 1 year ago
@LordHettrick Thank you! At last, someone agrees with me about Alagna.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 I just saw him in the Don Carlo broadcast. It was painful.
LordHettrick 1 year ago
@LordHettrick He's ben painful for some time. Stomping off the stage a few years ago in Aida when he was booed, was quite unprofessional. Of course, on the other hand he may have felt the audience wanted him to leave. :-)
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@LordHettrick I lucked out on Don Carlo (live performance) at the Met: I had Yonghoon Lee as Don Carlo and he was outstanding. At first I was wondering if I should choose a performance with Alagna, but the date wasn't convenient. Turned out for the best. But... whatever one can say about Alagna, he is still a legitimate opera singer (I do like some of his arias here e.g. from Werther), not to be mentioned alongside Jenkins.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 callate la boca.
zilvital 11 months ago
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arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@arpeggio1358 Mezzo soprano
zilvital 11 months ago
@zilvital I'm aware that she's a mezzo-soprano. It has nothing to do with the separation of opera and popera as genres. I don't think you understand what I've been saying.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@zilvital Opera and popera are musical genres. They're not voice classifications. Please get someone who speaks English to explain my coments to you, as I don't think you understand what I've been saying. Mezzo-soprano is a voice classification, like soprano, bass, tenor, baritone, etc. Opera, popera, rock, country, etc. are musical genres.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@arpeggio1358 yo entiendo de clasificaciones,pero considero que no hay que exigir a una mezzo..que cante como soprano,usted se confunde en su descripcion sobre la señorita kate...la popera no existe.
zilvital 11 months ago
@zilvital Pop opera (popera) singers are pop singers like Jenkins who sing opera arias. Opera singers sing roles in complete operas in opera houses and sing without a microphone. Opera and popera are separate genres. Ms Jenkins is a popera singer. Therer's nothing wrong with this. It just means she isn't an opera singer. Once again, opera and popera are two very different genres.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@zilvital Vitas, who you have on your channel, is another popera singer.
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arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@zilvital Ópera pop (popera) cantantes son cantantes pop como Jenkins, quien canta arias de ópera. Cantantes de ópera cantando roles en óperas completas en teatros de ópera y cantar sin micrófono. Opera y popera son géneros distintos. Sra. Jenkins es una cantante popera. Nada de malo con esta Therer es. Sólo significa que no es una cantante de ópera. Una vez más, la ópera y popera son dos géneros muy diferentes.
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arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@zilvital All i've asked is that opera and popera be kept as separate genres. They both have merit, but should be separate, as they have different voice types, standards, technique, and training. Your rudeness is not warranted.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago
@zilvital No me gusta que le digan a cerrar mi boca, tampoco. Todas las opiniones son bienvenidas en YouTube. Falta de respeto no lo es.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago
Taught her how to pronounce the words? I'd like to teach her a few things. Maybe she could teach me a few things, come to think of it.
rickcee 1 year ago
Operataurus.........I'm salivating!
joeh2182 1 year ago
She may look like a sex bomb but this sounds more like a choir girl. Carmen is supposed to have the men salivating......
Operataurus 1 year ago 3
its a damn good version... but its too neat and innocent she needs to get the Feisty SExy element of carmen in there.
Classicalytrained 1 year ago
she COULD be an amazing mezzo.. but this crossover is just baaaad.
arthurock6 1 year ago
@arthurock6 She would need a lot of training and would have to learn the proper technique to be a good classical/opera singer. Unfortunately, i don't think she is capable of learning these things, or she would have learned them during her time at the R.A. Also she needs to learn to sing without a microphone, as oepra singers never use them except in large outdoor venues with poor acoustics. Jenkins always uses a microphone.
arpeggio1358 11 months ago 6
@arpeggio1358 They have recently spent a fortune on acoustics at Convent Garden but I don't think it would help Katherine, she is not able to project her voice.
meeragrantham 10 months ago
@meeragrantham You might enjoy the "We Love Katherine Jenkins" blog. It's wonderful...and brilliantly produced. Just google "We Love Katherine Jenkins".
arpeggio1358 10 months ago 5
The Welsh Nightingale. What more can I say?
Aled
ifuliki 1 year ago
wow!!beautibul voice & beautifull woman!BRAVA!
fakiso 1 year ago 2
une trés belle chanson bravo
chamsse1000 1 year ago
very good... well done
but Callas version is out this world
RonaldBarone 2 years ago
@RonaldBarone I checked out the Callas version and you are right, Callas has better pronounciations, a stronger voice and does a better version of this beautiful song. But, like you say Jenkins version is good, and I do like her version!! I feel so bad comparing two great musical artists as I feel that is unfair!! Enjoy!
TheMattprune 1 year ago
@TheMattprune There are zillion versions that are better than this one, not just Callas. Check out Rinat Shaham, Elina Garanca, Jennifer Larmore, Denyce Graves - all today's singers, not past ones. If you only listen to one or two singers I can see why you don't see why people are criticizing Jenkins, but if you listen to many versions, you'll be able to understand where people are coming from. You can even type "gypsy song Carmen" and listen to many versions. See how many are better than this.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@jewelmarkess (cont) (Sorry, my previous post was meant for jewelmarkess.) One of my biggest concerns is that Jackie follows the same path as these opera singers and winds up sounding just like them. There's just not that much difference between them that I can tell. And as for Jenkins, If you don't like what your sense of hearing is doing for you, then there's always the sense of sight. Most gorgeous woman I have ever set my eyes on. Also she entertains for our military heroes. Go Kathrine.
adventurous63 1 year ago
@adventurous63 If you don't hear the difference between opera singers, then your ears are probably not good enough to distinguish voices. As to Jackie's sounding just like them, I think it'd be great. Opera singers don't just sing the notes, they actually express what they sing. Jackie has potential, and I think it'd be great if she goes into opera. As to the looks, I think both Garanca and Shaham look just as good, and can actually sing this aria as it should be sung and be expressive.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@jewelmarkess If you read my post correctly, you will see that I didn't say I cannot hear the difference. I said there is not much difference. At least for now Jackies voice has a soothing quality that opera singers don't have. This quality is in large part what has brought her almost overnight stardom. I really think you are all just jealous of her abilities. She is such a well rounded individual that she will excel, regardless of what career path she follows.
adventurous63 1 year ago
@adventurous63 If you say that there is not much difference between opera singers it means that you don't hear the difference. For many of us, there is a lot of individual differences. I think Jackie is very talented with a rare gift, I've never ever said anything negative about Jackie only that it'd be great if she goes into opera. So I don't know where your "jealosy" remark is coming from. BTW - it seems like the only real opera singer you heard is Callas, and many don't like her voice.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@adventurous63 Jackie's voice is going to change in some way as she grows up. But if she learns classical technique, it'll help her in whichever path she takes - opera singers preserve their voices far longer than pop singers. If Jackie becomes an opera singer, you may still like her grown up voice. There are more individual differences among opera singers that you realize, and many people like some opera singers but don't like others. Again, all my criticism was against Jenkins not Jackie.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@jewelmarkess Obviously David Foster likes Jenkins and I've heard of him, but I haven't heard of you. You won't find me going to some opera singers channel and belittling them the way you do Jenkins. Go rain on some one elses parade.
adventurous63 1 year ago
@adventurous63 Have I even claimed to be a performer? I am a software engineer, but I am an opera fan and have heard some of the best and can compare. I bet if you don't like some computer software you'd be the first to criticize software engineers like me even if you couldn't write software yourself, woudln't you? You don't need to be a professional in a field to criticize professionals in that field. I bet you criticize writers all the time or architects, maybe singers you don't like too.
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@adventurous63 I don't know whom David Foster likes or dislikes. He is a pop performer, he isn't an opera fan. Not to mention that he is a male, and she is a beautiful woman. But this is an opera aria not a pop song, and Jenkins doesn't sing it anywhere near opera level. Tell me this, if she'd been 40ish and overweight, would you still like her?
jewelmarkess 1 year ago
@jewelmarkess BRAVA!
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@TheMattprune Ms. Jenkins doesn't really qualify as a musical artist. Please do as jewelmarkess has suggested and listen to ssome of the real opera singers she has suggested and hear how this should really be sung. Jenkins is a pop singer who sings opera arias, not a real opera singer.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 Well, I'm just your "Joe lunch bucket" kind of guy, but I do have a very good ear. I found my way here because I've been following Jackie Evancho and took the advice of some of you opera snobs and have been listening to some of these women you think are so great and I can tell you I don't care for any of them except maybe Sissel and Westenra. I find Callas to have something particularly irritating about her voice. Jackies voice has an angelic quality about it (cont.)
adventurous63 1 year ago
@adventurous63 I'm sorry, but we never recommended either Sissel or Westenra, who are not opera singers either. I don't like Callas myself and think that many people are too caught up in her legend to hear her voice as it really was. Jackie Evancho has some real potential as an opera singer. The color and maturity in her voice are really rare in one so young. (cont)
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@adventurous63 (part 2) I just hope that Jackie gets a good teacher so she will learn proper singing technique. I also hope that Jackie's parents don't get all caught up in having her make money and don't push her into a career too soon, and take the chance of damaging her voice by not learning how to sing correctly first.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago
@arpeggio1358 I will listen to a few other Opera Singers, but I think there is a little snobbery here, which I dissaprove of. She can still sing right? Better than I can and perhaps you? So, who are we to judge when some many people get pleasure from here singing - just saying :-)
TheMattprune 1 year ago
@TheMattprune She can sing, but if she's going to sing opera material she should be judged by the same standards as opera singers are. Yes, she's got a nice voice, but her singing is not of opera quality. It's just that opera and popera shouldn't be confused as genres. Both have merit.
arpeggio1358 1 year ago