sherlock says "not my area" which we can deduce hes gay..he says he's "flattered" but married to his work, so is he saying he would date john if it weren't for work? <3
@borisborisboris8D yeah, I think so, but Jawn is his assistant, so he is a part of his job, which means they're already practically married but they don't know that yet.
i saw this scene in the unaired test pilot. i think bennie actually looks younger in it (i think his hair was more brown, too) than in the aired one. but this scene was just as gd if not better in the unaired version
i must admit i can see how J would get the idea that sherlock ,,plays for the hometeam,when you look at the facts. they´ve only meet that same day, yet sherlock wants to live with him without really knowing him, he takes him to a restaurant, where the owner puts a candle on the table, which makes you wonder if S often brings male dates here. and when they talk about relationships he says that having a GIRLfriend is not his area, plus he is very fast to make sure that J knows he has no BF either
i've categorized this scene into some ordinary scenes until just now a thought popped out: John says "friends" immediately when Sherlock asks him about what he has in real life!No wonder his loyalty throughout the series:D
This scene is even more funny/awkward in the unaired pilot /watchv=z5Ev2_OfQh0&feature=related. This one is better for the show, though. It's shorter, and makes a point without going into dragging it out to much. I LOVE this scene. :D
I dont really get it when he replies to Watson "..I know it's fine" after he says having a girlfriend is not his "area"....man I dont know what to think D:
@batitony My understanding is that John's saying that if Sherlock's gay, it's fine, and fine for him to tell him so. Sherlock's response is along the lines of "I know there's nothing wrong with being gay, so if I was, I'd tell you." Honestly, I really can't see how anybody could read this as either of them being gay. It's pretty clear.
@Jeowyn They've written the relationship ambiguously on purpose, nothing is "clear". It only seems clear to you because we all see everything through our own biased lenses. That's how we view fictional characters, that's why these fictional characters are completely free to our interpretation. It's all in good fun. By the way I happen to agree with you, but no one's opinion is "correct".
@misha231 I'm just going off the commentary from the bloke who wrote the episode, that's all- Moffat saying that Conan Doyle was absolutely clear that Sherlock is just not interested and that this scene was meant to speak to that.
@Jeowyn Indeed, but the writers aren't stupid. They know fandoms exist, which is why they include all of the other ambiguous situations to fuel the fire. It gets people talking, and like I said, people have fun with it. Nothing wrong with that.
@batitony I think he's just saying relationships aren't his area, but John takes it to mean that he's gay until he says he doesn't have a boyfriend either...
I don't really get why people thinks this is such a slashy moment. John is clearly just trying to figure out who this person, he's suddenly run into is. He's been out of touch with people for quite a while, so obviously it's a bit clumsy done. If anything it shows that sherlock actually seems to have some patience and respect for John since he actually tries to let him down politely
@Sindizwe I agree. John's making small talk, not flirting. And at 0:20, when he suddenly thinks Sherlock's gay, he seems surprised more than anything; if he were hitting on Sherlock, you'd think he'd be pleased. And at 0:50, when Sherlock thinks John's gay, he doesn't seem happy to think John's hitting on him and John quickly and firmly quashes that notion. I feel this scene is an acknowledgment that some fans see a ship here but a confirmation that the writers aren't going that route.
@Sindizwe So very true, but they form a kind of Homoerotic domestic partnership, so the writters are having fun with it. Sherlock its asexual, hes not interested, but he cares a lot for Watson. Thats why people think of this as a slash moment.
@ThePrincessSpottie Anyway, so really, any considerations that John is bi are really wishful thinking on the part of shippers ;) There's no evidence of it whatsoever. On the other hand, John apparently had a thing for Clara, hits on Anthea twice (aiming high, but shows he has good self esteem ;) ) and ends up dating Sarah. The writers really could not have made it any clearer that John is straight and Sherlock is asexual. By all means, ship away, but let's not pretend it really is canon ;)
@Jeowyn I suppose. But John literally hits on anything that walks on two legs and is female in this series, yet somehow it stays very platonic. Even his relationship with Sarah. He pops over several times but he sleeps on the couch like a mate? Very strange. I think if the writers wanted to break up the shippers guild ( very hard thing to do, yes ) they would have been explicit about his relationship like in the original books either with a girlfriend or with a clear romantic attachment.
@myRincon - That scene is interesting. I like it, because it's... realistic. Sarah's a professional woman in her thirties, not a Bond girl, she's under no compulsion to nail her guy on the first date, or the second, or... whatever. In any case, she teases him about "maybe next time I'll let you curl up at the end of my bed" and he responds wistfully with "and what about the time after that?" It's clear he's not there by choice and would prefer to be in her bed.
@myRincon In any case, I don't think the writers particularly care that people are shipping. In fact, they nod to it in the third episode- they're the Dr Who team, for crying out loud, they know shippers, lol. But I don't think "John hasn't hit a home run with Sarah yet" is compelling reason to declare him as bi. If the writers wanted to portray him as bi, they would. But they don't. The offical word from Moffat and Gatiss (who IS gay) is that they've stayed true to the books in this respect.
@ThePrincessSpottie I think that much of the joy of this scene is the overall maturity and openness of the conversation- even though it does go hilariously weird for a few moments. John's point is that if Sherlock is gay, that's okay by him and he's not going to act like a weird homophobe if it turns out he's living with a gay bloke. Since Sherlock is a good-looking young man without a girlfriend, enquiring as to whether he was gay was a reasonable enough question.
So cringeworthy. And hilarious. In terms of series canon, Watson's definitely straight. In his tie-in blog (I forget the URL, it's been ages) he posts about moving in with Sherlock. His sister Harry thinks it's hilarious and Bill says something like "gone gay on us, have you?' He replies "I'm not gay. He might be. I don't know. It doesn't matter" which to me is the heart of this scene. Harry then tells Bill her brother can't be gay because of "the way he used to look at Clara" (her ex-wife.)
@Jeowyn I agree to an extent. The one flaw in this logic is that you fail to acknowledge the existence of bisexuality. It is possible that he falls somewhere on the Kinsey scale. (although to be frank I don't see why it matters what the orientation of a fictional character is and think everyone should just chill out.)
That said, the fangirl in me ships the two of them to the point where I occasionally forget it's not canon. I apologize.
@Jeowyn I would love to take a look at this blog. I agree with everything you said about John and Sherlock. I don't ship them but think it's cute that there are people (fangirls mostly) who do, gives hope in tolerance for homosexuality in the world. It has been a running gag with the show to poke fun at Sherlock and John's bromance because of the homosexual subtexts from the books. Also, why do people equate asexual=bisexuality? It doesn't mean the same thing.
@mm0use It's johnwatsonblog.co.uk :) Apart from being insightful to what's going on in the series, some of the exchanges are bloody hilarious, from John flailing around at the beginning trying to get the hang of blogging, to him being a hostile bitch to his sister (she doesn't seem to notice/care) to Sherlock wandering in every so often to complain about his writing skills. Plus cameos from lots of his faithful blogging circle, including a single hilarious snark from Sally Donovan.
I KNOW Sherlock's asexual. That's the super dee duperty cool thing about him. But....my fangirl mind..is hard to control sometimes. Not to mention that the TV show isn't really helping, I mean, how slashier can you get?!
@cerise333 YES! 0:38 and you can see in Sherlock's eyes, "oh damn, another mortal ensnared by my comely visage, but I gotta let him down easy or he'll get all weird and 'rejected'"
John is practically flinging himself at Sherlock when he hears that he doesn't have a boyfriend. And out of ALL possible roles that "people have in real life", he picks girlfriends and boyfriends. Ya. Suuuubtle.
0:33, lol, "Right! OK! (thrilled/relieved sigh, licking lips)..." This is typical relief at having someone you fancy not be involved with anyone else at the moment - but he's trying to mask it off as detached amusement, which is a lie because he cannot sustain eye contact. The eye contact IS sustained, however, at the "It's totally fine"
In my honest opinion, I think Sherlock fancies the girl at the lab a tad bit, noticing her lipstick, hairstyle change, and the weight change of 3 pounds, as well as him actually trying to help her out with the dude she was with (poor guy doesn't know how to help well though =/)
@Frozone470 I think he prefers John though, I don't think Sherlock and Molly are ever going to get together. If they did I would scream "NOOOO!!! NOOOO!!!!!!!" and die....
@XxMaddieGirl12xX lol he doesn't fancy John. Read the stories, he has a love intrest. Not enough? They casted Lara Pulver to portray Irene Adler, set to be a potential love intrest for Sherlock. He doesn't perfer John XD and as for Molly, I was kidding lol that will never happen
@Frozone470 No actually Irene Adler isn't his love interest, he never was. They never fall in love in the books so it's highly unlikely they will in the show, plus Sherlock is kind of Asexual so I don't think he would go for anyone anyway. Your only saying he doesn't fancy John cause your not a John/Sherlock fan, but I am. So that's why I think they really love each other. It's my opinion not yours.
It is so funny that sherlock is somewhat omnipotent in every era, but when it comes to relationships and emotions, his own or others, he is totally lost! (And it is so sweet how he changes while being with John ^^ *fangirl modus off*)
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@RedscorpionCMD - actually, there has been some evidence that he wrote a "love prelude" to a boy, but he was overall interested in women. Not my first choice when trying to make that point, though. -_-
maaan, I missed this episode. But John's face in 0:20 is priceless....just like *okay, think I discovered your dark secret finally..." Sherlock can't be so un-human because somewhen he noticed/ or think he noticed he hurts John's feelings.... He really seems disturbed about it. Maybe a lot of misunderstanding between them...
They are not. First of all Watson is married two times in the books. Second: Sherlock hasn't a wife because it would only disturb the stories. It's the same thing with the adventures of Tintin. These men are not gay they just haven't girls because they don't matter. It was completly stupid, if there was a partner that would scare for Sherlock. This is exactly the ting that makes modern crimis so boring. Always the private problems and loves of the detectiv and the crime? Minor matter! Stupid!
True, and though they were never romantically involved with each other, from their relationship I've read in the books, they were definitely close, and though not in love with each other, they were most definitely heterosexual life partners.
@hinatagirl282008 True, especially since Holmes seems pretty much asexual to me. :D But they definetaly have a strong bond in the stories and adaptions. There is one story where Watson gets shot in the leg and goes down and Holmes thinks for a moment he has been shot dead and almost starts crying. If that isn't close I don't know what
@HarlequinRaven LOL! At first I think John was straight but after meeting Sherlock and getting to know him a bit better (also living with him and he obviously cant resist his extreme sexiness and good looks) I think John might have turned a little bi...
I've watched this scene about 100 times and I still think it's really akward but I find me laughing or grinning (or both xD) every time I watch this x)
Can't wait for Season 2. I also desperately want Moriarty to be dead very soon. (as will anyone else who's read the original Doyle novels!) Moments like these make the series worth watching :)
My take (after 500 or so viewings...): Sherlock has already noticed John does NOT want to be mistaken for Sherlock's "date"; he needs to let John know he's not going to hit on him, or the roommate deal will be off. Pretending as though John was hitting on him (instead of having a mild homophobic panic attack), and letting him down easily diffuses the situation quite well.
@lbuckley3141 yes that's making sense...didn't get to that 'till now...but this is just such an awkward conversation...i couldn't concentrate...been too busy laughing
I really hope they don't continue this "is he/isn't he" line of direction in Season 2, as subtle as it is. The little jokey suggestive bits they did in these episodes were cute and all, but I think they've served their purpose, and anything further would just been beating a dead horse and needlessly treading in a pointless direction. Just continue with the intriguing stories and let the humor rise naturally from the situations. Can't wait for the new episodes.
I think it's lovely how Sherlock cares about John so much that he clears things up and explains that he's 'not interested'. He is interested though... :DD (I'm seriously raping the replay button, I have watched this at least hundred times now!)
@najhoant Yeah, in this version of Sherlock I really don't think Sherlock has any interest in love at all because he is the kind of Asexual type and as much as I love Sherlock/John I don't think they should take their relationship to the point of kissing, but maybe some close contact like hugs or something like that...
@XxMaddieGirl12xX It's very refreshing to have the old "asexual" characters in a modern series again, but I don't think this asexual appearance is meant to be "ultimate" in the sense that once you get to the deeper undercurrent here, even though they're not connecting physically, just watch their eyes... They don't have a clue, but are deeply drawn together. The asexual characters are important because then the audience can relate to their own inner psyche. Spirit in material disguise = life.
Why does everyone seem to think Sherlock's gay? It's so obvious he isn't. I'd say he's not straight or gay, he's unique in that he genuinely has no interest in any form of relationship whatsoever. It's not that he doesn't understand love, he just sees it as below him. After all the cases he's solved, he probably sees love as a weakness that leads to people being predictable/getting caught - a potential downfall he doesn't want.
I've always thought it was pretty established cannon that Sherlock is Asexual, yes. But that doesn't mean people can't poke fun at (in the case of the little references and lines in this series) or explore (in the case of a lot of fan fiction) other possibilities.
I think the early part of the conversation is only awkward if John makes it awkward. Sherlock expresses perfect contentment with both his orientation and his lack of a partner.
"It's fine."
"I know it is."
Really, it goes without saying. If you told a friend you were straight, would you expect to hear, "So, are you heterosexual---which is fine by the way." :D
I think Sherlock has a thing for John, not the other way around. He's letting himself down easily. :)
Sherlock doesn't let Molly (the girl from the lab) down nicely because he needs her. He uses her to get all the bodies he needs information from, so he manipulates her to gain access to them. Anybody else would have denied him.
He's being manipulative, a true characteristic of a sociopath, high-functioning one that he is.
He lets Watson down nicely because he would gain nothing from having John pine after him, as much as we would like him to.
@TheBermuda Probably because (apart from the slash that I HAVE to read into it, being a devoted fangirl...) he knows he's going to have to live with John - even Sherlock realises that he needs somewhere to live, and for that he needs a flatmate. And so there's no point completely alienating John this early in their relationship; whereas with Molly, he doesn't need her for anything. If she wasn't around to let him at the corpses/labs, he'd find another way :) That's how I see it anyway
@DuchessAliana Irene is not a romantic interest in the canon, don't see why she should be for this adaptation. The '09 Ritchie movie changed her character and miraculously made Sherlock a heterosexual.
I love how he gives John the clue here about who the man with the umbrella was, and John doesn't get it. This show is so multi-layered yet subtle, it's brilliant.
@Kokischan Well, as I see it, when Sherlock says "What do real people have then, in their... real lives?" he hints at family / siblings. But John gets distracted by the enemy-friend opposition. See what I mean?
@Nitocrisss Ahaaa... yeah. I see it. It is a very subtle hint though! But I guess that's just the way he is. To himself it's probably chrystal clear =) Yes, I also love how complex and multilayered the show is. I'm swedish so the episodes are subbed into swedish here but I ignore that and listen to the original english audio instead because there is so much important information that gets lost in translation. It's so detailed. Amazing.
@Kokischan Oh it's even worse with us - we have it dubbed. The translation is generally bearable, sometimes ridiculous and now and then just painfully wrong. And, of course, the voices! The only way to hear Benedict speak is to find it in English on the Internet, which we happily do. 'Sherlock' is truly an amazing piece of work, and it loses so much if you don't hear the actors. Martin's rants are fascinating, and Benedict himself is pure delight. He sounds a bit like Alan Rickman, too)
@Kokischan yeah, I know: (( I'm from Russia, and people here are lazy sod, they can't be bothered to read subtitles. But well, I agree that, considering the speed of Sherlock's monologues, it is probably impossible to read AND understand simultaneously :)
Yes, I've seen that, pure double awesomeness :) I want the two of them to do something together, like a play, that would be divine...
so many ridiculous comments here. he's asexual and has better things to do than pursue male or female relationships. there isn't innuendo, he sounds pretty damn direct about it.
Thank you! I am asexual, with absolutely no interest in romance or sex, and when Sherlock said, "Not really my area" after declaring girl/boyfriends dull, I thought, "Yes! I finally found an asexual character!" And looking at his personality over the three episodes, I really think he'd fair poorly in the dating/romance/sex scene. Not everything has to have sexual undertones or romance, and I'm happy that this series has none where it's title character is concerned.
@AvatarYoda Holmes has been asexual from the moment of his creation by Arthur Con Doyle. This show merely does nothing to change that. He never had any romantic interests in the books, and he thus has no romantic interests here. It's actually quite amazing that a series which was conceived entirely to reinvent the setting would preserve the characters themselves so perfectly.
My dad and I were cringing throughout this whole scene when we saw it! XD I think Sherlock was at his most human at this point in the episode - he's just so gentle when he "rejects" John. *glomps Sherlock and John*
You know, Sherlock lets him down really nicely (even though he's misunderstood) but the girl in the lab... was he just being oblivious or.. just mean? I don't think he's oblivious because he later flirts with her to get what he wants.
Whole conversation is awkward.
"Don't have a girlfriend then?"
"Girlfriend. No not really my area."
Sherlock "While I'm flattered by your interest I'm really not looking...." Funny he doesn't say boys aren't his area :D
If you think about it, John is part of his job...
QuinnStJames 1 day ago
No Sherlock arent singel Irene! He <3 his jobb XD
TheJumpingSmilyHorse 2 days ago
Can't they just.... GET IT ON!? PLEASE!?
GabbyRomance 4 days ago
OMG SO.......VERY.......AWKWARD! "john i consider myself married to my work, I'm flattered by your interest..."
lulucol3 1 week ago 2
GEE I'M NOT SURE JOHN, I DON'T THINK HE'S INTERESTED IN PENIS
Broccolily 1 week ago
sherlock says "not my area" which we can deduce hes gay..he says he's "flattered" but married to his work, so is he saying he would date john if it weren't for work? <3
borisborisboris8D 1 week ago 9
@borisborisboris8D yeah, I think so, but Jawn is his assistant, so he is a part of his job, which means they're already practically married but they don't know that yet.
YET :D
coffeeheaven191 1 week ago
I love how Sherlock says "I know it's fine" instead of "I know it'd be fine". All the things we could deduce from that... :D
JackSparrowILU 2 weeks ago 10
i saw this scene in the unaired test pilot. i think bennie actually looks younger in it (i think his hair was more brown, too) than in the aired one. but this scene was just as gd if not better in the unaired version
TheVenerated 2 weeks ago
Sherlock is always quite nice to John, acting calm and always saying thank you. imagine if there would have been anyone else asking him that stuff!
GeekInChina 3 weeks ago 2
Love how Sherlock looks around when he thinks John's hitting on him,,,like is he,,,does he...hmmm.
waterbabeful 3 weeks ago
ARE YOU NOT ALLOWED TO COMMENT ON THIS VIDEO UNLESS YOU PUT IT IN CAPITALS? AND YES, THEY ARE GAY FOR EACHOTHER.
CaoimheHale 3 weeks ago 14
OBSCENE AMOUNT OF HETEROSEXUALITY IN THIS WHOLE DAMN SHOW AM I RIGHT?
ImWeirdAndILikeIt 3 weeks ago 8
THERE AMOUNT OF PURE RAW SEXUAL TENSION KILLS ME. IDGAF. I WILL GO DOWN THIS SHIP.
EllieSUICIDEE 4 weeks ago 9
i must admit i can see how J would get the idea that sherlock ,,plays for the hometeam,when you look at the facts. they´ve only meet that same day, yet sherlock wants to live with him without really knowing him, he takes him to a restaurant, where the owner puts a candle on the table, which makes you wonder if S often brings male dates here. and when they talk about relationships he says that having a GIRLfriend is not his area, plus he is very fast to make sure that J knows he has no BF either
ranmachan29 4 weeks ago 11
When John asks him if he's got a girlfriend he says that it's not his area, but when he asks if he's got a boyfriend he just says no ;)
siridavidsen 1 month ago 16
@siridavidsen Excellent suggestive ^.^ (like a digestive but more edible for Sherlock)
vampirelovewerewolf 1 month ago
Doesn't anybody else find Sherlock positively sexy in this scene, especially with that lighting?!?! =3
MsDanioDanio 1 month ago 4
i've categorized this scene into some ordinary scenes until just now a thought popped out: John says "friends" immediately when Sherlock asks him about what he has in real life!No wonder his loyalty throughout the series:D
tikiwen 1 month ago 3
I'LL STOP SHIPPING THEM WHEN THEY STOP BEING SO GAY FOR EACH OTHER!
EeerHowAboutNo 1 month ago 13
"You're unattachd...just like me. Fine. Good."
That's what we in the States like to call a PROPOSITION.
GraceMccThe1st 1 month ago 14
Sherlock is very uncomfartable at this moment. lol
DarthStarscream1138 1 month ago
"So you've got a boyfr--" "NO."
riseuplikeangels 1 month ago 11
I love these two actors.
FlyingBandicoot 1 month ago 3
Awkward!!!
KardiganBlackCat 1 month ago
best frendzzz haha :D
meghani2006 1 month ago
At the end of the day, Sherlock Holmes is asexual. But I like to entertain the idea of Watsonsexual, as well . . . ;)
therealcritic28 1 month ago 19
IF SHERLOCK HOLMES, THE MOST OBSERVANT MAN IN THE WORLD, THINKS YOU'RE HITTING ON HIM...
You probably are.
Insomiak 1 month ago 153
@Insomiak THANK YOU.
vampirelovewerewolf 1 month ago
@vampirelovewerewolf It's just true. No thanks needed xD
Insomiak 4 weeks ago
AND SO BEGAN THE BLINDING AMOUNT OF HETEROSEXUALITY IN THIS SHOW
SheepAteMyFanBoys 1 month ago 115
haha I love this scene <3
ShadowLady999 1 month ago
lol John tries to throw in that he's single.
"You're unattached... like me. ;)"
Gabriellaella23 2 months ago 29
Did anyone besides me notice how John licked his lips at 0:34 ? Seems like someone's happy that Sherlock is unattached ~
MiiuMao 2 months ago 13
And as soon as that scene aired, a million slash fics were already in the works
SchweitzerMan 2 months ago 31
This scene is even more funny/awkward in the unaired pilot /watchv=z5Ev2_OfQh0&feature=related. This one is better for the show, though. It's shorter, and makes a point without going into dragging it out to much. I LOVE this scene. :D
cooliofizzyizzy 2 months ago
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cooliofizzyizzy 2 months ago
I dont really get it when he replies to Watson "..I know it's fine" after he says having a girlfriend is not his "area"....man I dont know what to think D:
batitony 3 months ago 5
@batitony hes saying hes gay, not really saying the word cuz its for Tv
ladyunebarton 2 months ago
@batitony My understanding is that John's saying that if Sherlock's gay, it's fine, and fine for him to tell him so. Sherlock's response is along the lines of "I know there's nothing wrong with being gay, so if I was, I'd tell you." Honestly, I really can't see how anybody could read this as either of them being gay. It's pretty clear.
Jeowyn 2 months ago
@Jeowyn They've written the relationship ambiguously on purpose, nothing is "clear". It only seems clear to you because we all see everything through our own biased lenses. That's how we view fictional characters, that's why these fictional characters are completely free to our interpretation. It's all in good fun. By the way I happen to agree with you, but no one's opinion is "correct".
misha231 2 months ago 6
@misha231 I'm just going off the commentary from the bloke who wrote the episode, that's all- Moffat saying that Conan Doyle was absolutely clear that Sherlock is just not interested and that this scene was meant to speak to that.
Jeowyn 2 months ago
@Jeowyn Indeed, but the writers aren't stupid. They know fandoms exist, which is why they include all of the other ambiguous situations to fuel the fire. It gets people talking, and like I said, people have fun with it. Nothing wrong with that.
misha231 2 months ago 12
@misha231 Couldn't agree more with this. Both in SH and all of fiction.
lostismyconstent 1 month ago
@batitony I think he's just saying relationships aren't his area, but John takes it to mean that he's gay until he says he doesn't have a boyfriend either...
karlachameleon1 1 month ago
i feel inadequate having a one line comment when everyone else here has like a paragraph.
ScienceOfDeduction1 3 months ago 3
Are people actually having a decent conversation in Youtube comments? About sexuality? Is this some alternate universe?
Riisachan 3 months ago 23
@Riisachan Holy shit, I think you're right... better call the military.
bigfatcarp93 3 months ago 6
I don't really get why people thinks this is such a slashy moment. John is clearly just trying to figure out who this person, he's suddenly run into is. He's been out of touch with people for quite a while, so obviously it's a bit clumsy done. If anything it shows that sherlock actually seems to have some patience and respect for John since he actually tries to let him down politely
Sindizwe 3 months ago
@Sindizwe I agree. John's making small talk, not flirting. And at 0:20, when he suddenly thinks Sherlock's gay, he seems surprised more than anything; if he were hitting on Sherlock, you'd think he'd be pleased. And at 0:50, when Sherlock thinks John's gay, he doesn't seem happy to think John's hitting on him and John quickly and firmly quashes that notion. I feel this scene is an acknowledgment that some fans see a ship here but a confirmation that the writers aren't going that route.
nelsonemily4 3 months ago
@Sindizwe So very true, but they form a kind of Homoerotic domestic partnership, so the writters are having fun with it. Sherlock its asexual, hes not interested, but he cares a lot for Watson. Thats why people think of this as a slash moment.
ladyunebarton 2 months ago
@ThePrincessSpottie Anyway, so really, any considerations that John is bi are really wishful thinking on the part of shippers ;) There's no evidence of it whatsoever. On the other hand, John apparently had a thing for Clara, hits on Anthea twice (aiming high, but shows he has good self esteem ;) ) and ends up dating Sarah. The writers really could not have made it any clearer that John is straight and Sherlock is asexual. By all means, ship away, but let's not pretend it really is canon ;)
Jeowyn 3 months ago
@Jeowyn I suppose. But John literally hits on anything that walks on two legs and is female in this series, yet somehow it stays very platonic. Even his relationship with Sarah. He pops over several times but he sleeps on the couch like a mate? Very strange. I think if the writers wanted to break up the shippers guild ( very hard thing to do, yes ) they would have been explicit about his relationship like in the original books either with a girlfriend or with a clear romantic attachment.
myRincon 3 months ago
@myRincon - That scene is interesting. I like it, because it's... realistic. Sarah's a professional woman in her thirties, not a Bond girl, she's under no compulsion to nail her guy on the first date, or the second, or... whatever. In any case, she teases him about "maybe next time I'll let you curl up at the end of my bed" and he responds wistfully with "and what about the time after that?" It's clear he's not there by choice and would prefer to be in her bed.
Jeowyn 3 months ago
@myRincon In any case, I don't think the writers particularly care that people are shipping. In fact, they nod to it in the third episode- they're the Dr Who team, for crying out loud, they know shippers, lol. But I don't think "John hasn't hit a home run with Sarah yet" is compelling reason to declare him as bi. If the writers wanted to portray him as bi, they would. But they don't. The offical word from Moffat and Gatiss (who IS gay) is that they've stayed true to the books in this respect.
Jeowyn 3 months ago
@ThePrincessSpottie I think that much of the joy of this scene is the overall maturity and openness of the conversation- even though it does go hilariously weird for a few moments. John's point is that if Sherlock is gay, that's okay by him and he's not going to act like a weird homophobe if it turns out he's living with a gay bloke. Since Sherlock is a good-looking young man without a girlfriend, enquiring as to whether he was gay was a reasonable enough question.
Jeowyn 3 months ago
So cringeworthy. And hilarious. In terms of series canon, Watson's definitely straight. In his tie-in blog (I forget the URL, it's been ages) he posts about moving in with Sherlock. His sister Harry thinks it's hilarious and Bill says something like "gone gay on us, have you?' He replies "I'm not gay. He might be. I don't know. It doesn't matter" which to me is the heart of this scene. Harry then tells Bill her brother can't be gay because of "the way he used to look at Clara" (her ex-wife.)
Jeowyn 4 months ago 7
@Jeowyn I agree to an extent. The one flaw in this logic is that you fail to acknowledge the existence of bisexuality. It is possible that he falls somewhere on the Kinsey scale. (although to be frank I don't see why it matters what the orientation of a fictional character is and think everyone should just chill out.)
That said, the fangirl in me ships the two of them to the point where I occasionally forget it's not canon. I apologize.
ThePrincessSpottie 3 months ago
@Jeowyn I would love to take a look at this blog. I agree with everything you said about John and Sherlock. I don't ship them but think it's cute that there are people (fangirls mostly) who do, gives hope in tolerance for homosexuality in the world. It has been a running gag with the show to poke fun at Sherlock and John's bromance because of the homosexual subtexts from the books. Also, why do people equate asexual=bisexuality? It doesn't mean the same thing.
mm0use 2 months ago
@mm0use It's johnwatsonblog.co.uk :) Apart from being insightful to what's going on in the series, some of the exchanges are bloody hilarious, from John flailing around at the beginning trying to get the hang of blogging, to him being a hostile bitch to his sister (she doesn't seem to notice/care) to Sherlock wandering in every so often to complain about his writing skills. Plus cameos from lots of his faithful blogging circle, including a single hilarious snark from Sally Donovan.
Jeowyn 2 months ago
@Jeowyn Thanks! The comments are better than his actual entries. giggles*
mm0use 2 months ago
I KNOW Sherlock's asexual. That's the super dee duperty cool thing about him. But....my fangirl mind..is hard to control sometimes. Not to mention that the TV show isn't really helping, I mean, how slashier can you get?!
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lemagneto 4 months ago 13
John Watson, you are one suave dude.
Brenanaification 4 months ago 3
So much room for speculation ... I am in paradise! XD
MyLillteFallenAngel 4 months ago
"John, um....."
*ROFL*
Londonrainwaters 4 months ago 6
Suddenly, Sherlock seems mortally terrified of being misunderstood.........;)
Londonrainwaters 4 months ago 7
Sherlock's face from 0:39-0:40 is priceless
cerise333 4 months ago 6
@cerise333 YES! 0:38 and you can see in Sherlock's eyes, "oh damn, another mortal ensnared by my comely visage, but I gotta let him down easy or he'll get all weird and 'rejected'"
quietdiscofork 4 months ago in playlist quietdiscofork's favorites 4
John is practically flinging himself at Sherlock when he hears that he doesn't have a boyfriend. And out of ALL possible roles that "people have in real life", he picks girlfriends and boyfriends. Ya. Suuuubtle.
slendersail 5 months ago
0:33, lol, "Right! OK! (thrilled/relieved sigh, licking lips)..." This is typical relief at having someone you fancy not be involved with anyone else at the moment - but he's trying to mask it off as detached amusement, which is a lie because he cannot sustain eye contact. The eye contact IS sustained, however, at the "It's totally fine"
slendersail 5 months ago 3
The looks on their faces!
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XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
In my honest opinion, I think Sherlock fancies the girl at the lab a tad bit, noticing her lipstick, hairstyle change, and the weight change of 3 pounds, as well as him actually trying to help her out with the dude she was with (poor guy doesn't know how to help well though =/)
Frozone470 6 months ago
@Frozone470 I think he prefers John though, I don't think Sherlock and Molly are ever going to get together. If they did I would scream "NOOOO!!! NOOOO!!!!!!!" and die....
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
@XxMaddieGirl12xX lol he doesn't fancy John. Read the stories, he has a love intrest. Not enough? They casted Lara Pulver to portray Irene Adler, set to be a potential love intrest for Sherlock. He doesn't perfer John XD and as for Molly, I was kidding lol that will never happen
Frozone470 6 months ago
@Frozone470 No actually Irene Adler isn't his love interest, he never was. They never fall in love in the books so it's highly unlikely they will in the show, plus Sherlock is kind of Asexual so I don't think he would go for anyone anyway. Your only saying he doesn't fancy John cause your not a John/Sherlock fan, but I am. So that's why I think they really love each other. It's my opinion not yours.
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XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
@Frozone470 WRONG! WRONG! WRONG! HE DOESN'T FANCY HER!!!!!!
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
awh sherlock is really flattered by johns interest ..... CUTEEE
lottimann 6 months ago
"So you're not attached. That's fine. Fine. Good."
Of course Sherlock would get the wrong idea then. Or the right idea?
skylerzero 6 months ago 129
@skylerzero Definitely the right idea. ; )
PersonalPuppeteer 6 months ago
@skylerzero DON'T 4 GET THAT JOHN'S SISTER IS A LESBIAN.
TheBrooklynUSA 3 months ago
It is so funny that sherlock is somewhat omnipotent in every era, but when it comes to relationships and emotions, his own or others, he is totally lost! (And it is so sweet how he changes while being with John ^^ *fangirl modus off*)
MyLillteFallenAngel 6 months ago 83
Really, since when do you have to like your friends?
Londonrainwaters 6 months ago
"People they know, people they like, people they don´t like..." All the same to John: FRIENDS....
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MrCathoo 6 months ago
This makes me smile in a really awkward, embarrassed way. I love it.
mollielie 6 months ago 7
Hehe, "It's all fine."
catzilla101 6 months ago 8
@RedscorpionCMD - actually, there has been some evidence that he wrote a "love prelude" to a boy, but he was overall interested in women. Not my first choice when trying to make that point, though. -_-
queenfreaky 7 months ago
Of all the things Sherlock can read, he misreads this?
Blasted2Oblivion 7 months ago 13
@Blasted2Oblivion
Or does he? ;) *fangirl wish*
SkyStained 6 months ago
OOH This whole conversation is so awkward and so hilarious!!!!! I love it! <3
jenkecool 7 months ago 5
Some of the coolest people in history are gay. Chopin, for instance.
Ejisqx 7 months ago
@Ejisqx Uhmm.. Not to belittle your overall point, but there's no evidence that Chopin was gay.
RedscorpionCMD 7 months ago
maaan, I missed this episode. But John's face in 0:20 is priceless....just like *okay, think I discovered your dark secret finally..." Sherlock can't be so un-human because somewhen he noticed/ or think he noticed he hurts John's feelings.... He really seems disturbed about it. Maybe a lot of misunderstanding between them...
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They need an "epic/perfect" button for this. :D
39ocean 7 months ago 2
They are not. First of all Watson is married two times in the books. Second: Sherlock hasn't a wife because it would only disturb the stories. It's the same thing with the adventures of Tintin. These men are not gay they just haven't girls because they don't matter. It was completly stupid, if there was a partner that would scare for Sherlock. This is exactly the ting that makes modern crimis so boring. Always the private problems and loves of the detectiv and the crime? Minor matter! Stupid!
Haibara7 7 months ago 3
@Haibara7
True, and though they were never romantically involved with each other, from their relationship I've read in the books, they were definitely close, and though not in love with each other, they were most definitely heterosexual life partners.
hinatagirl282008 7 months ago
@hinatagirl282008 True, especially since Holmes seems pretty much asexual to me. :D But they definetaly have a strong bond in the stories and adaptions. There is one story where Watson gets shot in the leg and goes down and Holmes thinks for a moment he has been shot dead and almost starts crying. If that isn't close I don't know what
MeonProductions 7 months ago 2
I notice John never said he wasn't gay. Mm-HMMM. ;)
HarlequinRaven 7 months ago 7
@HarlequinRaven LOL! At first I think John was straight but after meeting Sherlock and getting to know him a bit better (also living with him and he obviously cant resist his extreme sexiness and good looks) I think John might have turned a little bi...
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago 7
I've watched this scene about 100 times and I still think it's really akward but I find me laughing or grinning (or both xD) every time I watch this x)
WSpokaW 7 months ago
My brother has done this to me. "So do you have a boyfriend yet? "No" "Girlfriend?" " No."
thebeatlesfan6697 7 months ago 3
Oh God, the bromance.
I'll be damned, but I'm such a sucker for the bromance.
TheLastRainShadow 7 months ago 6
i had this conversation with my twin brother most awkwoon convosation i had in years :O
sweetiepatty7 7 months ago
Ha! John looks when Sherlock says girls aren't really his area, priceless!
Annaaa693 8 months ago
Can't wait for Season 2. I also desperately want Moriarty to be dead very soon. (as will anyone else who's read the original Doyle novels!) Moments like these make the series worth watching :)
WeAreAirborne 8 months ago
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
GunsmokeForever 8 months ago
My take (after 500 or so viewings...): Sherlock has already noticed John does NOT want to be mistaken for Sherlock's "date"; he needs to let John know he's not going to hit on him, or the roommate deal will be off. Pretending as though John was hitting on him (instead of having a mild homophobic panic attack), and letting him down easily diffuses the situation quite well.
lbuckley3141 8 months ago 8
@lbuckley3141 Aha... That makes sense!
miceruletheworld42 7 months ago
@lbuckley3141 yes that's making sense...didn't get to that 'till now...but this is just such an awkward conversation...i couldn't concentrate...been too busy laughing
quotecat7 6 months ago
I really hope they don't continue this "is he/isn't he" line of direction in Season 2, as subtle as it is. The little jokey suggestive bits they did in these episodes were cute and all, but I think they've served their purpose, and anything further would just been beating a dead horse and needlessly treading in a pointless direction. Just continue with the intriguing stories and let the humor rise naturally from the situations. Can't wait for the new episodes.
MikeAM78 8 months ago
Well that's heterosexual.
livstarrify 8 months ago 10
Oh come on, just shag and be done with it. That's what we really want to see.
toxicjubilations 8 months ago 41
@toxicjubilations Hell yeah! I agree 110%! >//////<
Tomboy1500 8 months ago
@toxicjubilations Woohoo! Yeah come on bloody kiss already!!!!! XD
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
0:59 Sherlock is like 'What the heck is up with this guy?' :D
Klemmari12 9 months ago 5
This must have taken so many shots. I would have been dying of laughter.
weirdlightsaber44 9 months ago 8
I think it's lovely how Sherlock cares about John so much that he clears things up and explains that he's 'not interested'. He is interested though... :DD (I'm seriously raping the replay button, I have watched this at least hundred times now!)
Iibuli 9 months ago 6
Ahaha... "Girlfriend? No, not really my area." *John does an epically failed double take*
candymandy224 9 months ago 36
@candymandy224 I think Gatiss has hinted that a certain Irene Adler will appear in season 2
najhoant 9 months ago
@najhoant That sounds like fun... :) I heard Steven Moffat say that as well. Wonder how John will react to that.
candymandy224 9 months ago
@najhoant Yeah but she ain't gonna be his love interest you do know that right?
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
@XxMaddieGirl12xX Didn't think so three months ago, but I would have been shocked of she was
najhoant 6 months ago
@najhoant Yeah, in this version of Sherlock I really don't think Sherlock has any interest in love at all because he is the kind of Asexual type and as much as I love Sherlock/John I don't think they should take their relationship to the point of kissing, but maybe some close contact like hugs or something like that...
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
@XxMaddieGirl12xX It's very refreshing to have the old "asexual" characters in a modern series again, but I don't think this asexual appearance is meant to be "ultimate" in the sense that once you get to the deeper undercurrent here, even though they're not connecting physically, just watch their eyes... They don't have a clue, but are deeply drawn together. The asexual characters are important because then the audience can relate to their own inner psyche. Spirit in material disguise = life.
slendersail 5 months ago 4
Love this clip <3
DevilsHeadphones 9 months ago
Why does everyone seem to think Sherlock's gay? It's so obvious he isn't. I'd say he's not straight or gay, he's unique in that he genuinely has no interest in any form of relationship whatsoever. It's not that he doesn't understand love, he just sees it as below him. After all the cases he's solved, he probably sees love as a weakness that leads to people being predictable/getting caught - a potential downfall he doesn't want.
CaptainAndyman 9 months ago 40
@CaptainAndyman Thank you for putting my thoughts into words <3
FiveDeadSlugs 4 months ago
@CaptainAndyman
I've always thought it was pretty established cannon that Sherlock is Asexual, yes. But that doesn't mean people can't poke fun at (in the case of the little references and lines in this series) or explore (in the case of a lot of fan fiction) other possibilities.
sirwaddlesworthIII 4 months ago
Love John's expression when Holmes says "not my area" XD
XiAndenMigh 10 months ago 14
(Sorry. I just think the whole conversation is completely adorable.)
bluebanshee3 10 months ago 21
I think the early part of the conversation is only awkward if John makes it awkward. Sherlock expresses perfect contentment with both his orientation and his lack of a partner.
"It's fine."
"I know it is."
Really, it goes without saying. If you told a friend you were straight, would you expect to hear, "So, are you heterosexual---which is fine by the way." :D
I think Sherlock has a thing for John, not the other way around. He's letting himself down easily. :)
bluebanshee3 10 months ago 7
Sherlock doesn't let Molly (the girl from the lab) down nicely because he needs her. He uses her to get all the bodies he needs information from, so he manipulates her to gain access to them. Anybody else would have denied him.
He's being manipulative, a true characteristic of a sociopath, high-functioning one that he is.
He lets Watson down nicely because he would gain nothing from having John pine after him, as much as we would like him to.
narusteph 10 months ago 5
Awkwaaaard.
2ndamendmentgirl 11 months ago
of course Sherlock is married to his work...
ShonaM6920 11 months ago
I don't understand why he lets John down so kindly but is so cruel to Molly, the woman from the hospital.
TheBermuda 1 year ago
@TheBermuda Probably because (apart from the slash that I HAVE to read into it, being a devoted fangirl...) he knows he's going to have to live with John - even Sherlock realises that he needs somewhere to live, and for that he needs a flatmate. And so there's no point completely alienating John this early in their relationship; whereas with Molly, he doesn't need her for anything. If she wasn't around to let him at the corpses/labs, he'd find another way :) That's how I see it anyway
DrHaldirJones 1 year ago
@DrHaldirJones Oooh. Of course. That does comply with Sherlock's personality: cold, calculating. That makes perfect sense. :)
TheBermuda 1 year ago
@TheBermuda :D Personally, I prefer the slashy version, but that explanation does seem most appropriate! *hugs*
DrHaldirJones 1 year ago 2
@DrHaldirJones Who doesn't prefer the slashy version? XD
TheBermuda 1 year ago 7
@TheBermuda You make a very good point there ;D
DrHaldirJones 1 year ago
"not really my area" lol yeah, just wait till Irene screws you over next season. xD
DuchessAliana 1 year ago
@DuchessAliana Irene is not a romantic interest in the canon, don't see why she should be for this adaptation. The '09 Ritchie movie changed her character and miraculously made Sherlock a heterosexual.
potatoelolidk 11 months ago 6
@potatoelolidk Exactly! Finally someone who makes some sense! xD
XxMaddieGirl12xX 6 months ago
I love how he gives John the clue here about who the man with the umbrella was, and John doesn't get it. This show is so multi-layered yet subtle, it's brilliant.
Nitocrisss 1 year ago
@Nitocrisss I don't get it either =) What's the clue?
Kokischan 1 year ago
@Kokischan Well, as I see it, when Sherlock says "What do real people have then, in their... real lives?" he hints at family / siblings. But John gets distracted by the enemy-friend opposition. See what I mean?
Nitocrisss 1 year ago
@Nitocrisss Ahaaa... yeah. I see it. It is a very subtle hint though! But I guess that's just the way he is. To himself it's probably chrystal clear =) Yes, I also love how complex and multilayered the show is. I'm swedish so the episodes are subbed into swedish here but I ignore that and listen to the original english audio instead because there is so much important information that gets lost in translation. It's so detailed. Amazing.
Kokischan 1 year ago
@Kokischan Oh it's even worse with us - we have it dubbed. The translation is generally bearable, sometimes ridiculous and now and then just painfully wrong. And, of course, the voices! The only way to hear Benedict speak is to find it in English on the Internet, which we happily do. 'Sherlock' is truly an amazing piece of work, and it loses so much if you don't hear the actors. Martin's rants are fascinating, and Benedict himself is pure delight. He sounds a bit like Alan Rickman, too)
Nitocrisss 1 year ago
@Nitocrisss Dubbed!?!? Oh, the horror! Where are you from? Yes, his voice is amaing. I heard someone say "it's like listenung to a hug" once. So true.
Have you seen the clip where he is actually imitating Alan Rickman? =) Or the one where he is reading "little red hen". It's just too adorable.
Kokischan 1 year ago 4
@Kokischan yeah, I know: (( I'm from Russia, and people here are lazy sod, they can't be bothered to read subtitles. But well, I agree that, considering the speed of Sherlock's monologues, it is probably impossible to read AND understand simultaneously :)
Yes, I've seen that, pure double awesomeness :) I want the two of them to do something together, like a play, that would be divine...
Nitocrisss 1 year ago
so many ridiculous comments here. he's asexual and has better things to do than pursue male or female relationships. there isn't innuendo, he sounds pretty damn direct about it.
dauphine719 1 year ago
@dauphine719
Thank you! I am asexual, with absolutely no interest in romance or sex, and when Sherlock said, "Not really my area" after declaring girl/boyfriends dull, I thought, "Yes! I finally found an asexual character!" And looking at his personality over the three episodes, I really think he'd fair poorly in the dating/romance/sex scene. Not everything has to have sexual undertones or romance, and I'm happy that this series has none where it's title character is concerned.
AvatarYoda 11 months ago 17
@AvatarYoda Holmes has been asexual from the moment of his creation by Arthur Con Doyle. This show merely does nothing to change that. He never had any romantic interests in the books, and he thus has no romantic interests here. It's actually quite amazing that a series which was conceived entirely to reinvent the setting would preserve the characters themselves so perfectly.
GregoriusTheBrown 10 months ago 7
That awkward moment when you ask Sherlock about his personal life and he thinks you're hitting on him.
Baquv 1 year ago 34
My dad and I were cringing throughout this whole scene when we saw it! XD I think Sherlock was at his most human at this point in the episode - he's just so gentle when he "rejects" John. *glomps Sherlock and John*
TheBurbster 1 year ago
This is so deliciously awkward. It's swimming in innuendo.
Looveeee
jezebel324 1 year ago
I just think Sherlock doesn't have emotional connections to people,so him being gay or straight is kind of a moot point.
vodkagal28 1 year ago 13
ok, I was wrong, THIS is my favorite scene. XD
slashfilledmind 1 year ago
this is the best awkward conversation, I just keep re-watching it .
lovelybugy 1 year ago 180
I could watch that exchange all day. That, and BUT IT'S THE SOLAR SYSTEM, and "You're a doctor. In fact, an army doctor." Thanks for uploading!
morelindo 1 year ago 8
You know, Sherlock lets him down really nicely (even though he's misunderstood) but the girl in the lab... was he just being oblivious or.. just mean? I don't think he's oblivious because he later flirts with her to get what he wants.
Whole conversation is awkward.
"Don't have a girlfriend then?"
"Girlfriend. No not really my area."
Sherlock "While I'm flattered by your interest I'm really not looking...." Funny he doesn't say boys aren't his area :D
shinigamideathgirl 1 year ago 218