As a Scot I am NOT voting for faux independence. All Salmond wants is for us to become part of the Eurozone, this is not "independence". I fear people spend more time thinking about bagpipes and 800 year old battles, and not looking at things like our currency, and the fact that we will be fucked over by the EU.
@david78937 Sure cos that is what Nationalists do right?We are not more pist off,about being shat on in living memory in the 70ties.When our oil got stolen,after the goal posts got changed at the election.So that the SNP would not win.Aye its Bannockburn that we are all really thinking about.Aye you see the NATS.Bringing up the ghosts off the dead soldiors,at every argument about keeping the union.Sure NATS are backwards,and are not really thinking about making the future better for there kids.
@legandrydirk Not particularly, look at your profile - full of William Wallace nonsense, I am utterly terrified of this sort of nonsense being the motivating factor behind so called independence. Salmond hasn't decided what sort of currency he plans to have, and yet, nobody has called him out on this - and just post videos with sentimental music meant to tug the heartstrings right? We must be the stupidest cunts in the world if we fall for this.
@david78937 Your a tube then if you think that film is motivating us to Independence.It was a good film,what is wrong with liking the film?I like Scar face as well.It does not make me want to start dealing and taking cocaine.Salmond has we are keeping the pound.Your clearly way behind on what is actually happening.
@legandrydirk What!! So it isn't independence then is it!?? Keep the pound and surrender all control of monetary policy - no ability to set interest rates and being subject to strict economic conditions set by the Bank of England! You would have very strict conditions over it's usage and the money supply would be controlled from London - with Scotland having no say over any form of monetary policy - so you would actually lose independence. Why on earth would any sane person want to do that?
It was Scotland who kept the stupid Socialists Labour in power, Socialism was the cause of our downfall in our economy, and yes, Scotland will vote for the exact same thing once we become independent, why? Because they're stupid enough to stand outside and shout to "tax the rich" when it's the rich who create the jobs and "No Cuts" when our government don't have the money.
Same stupid socialists that'll run our country into the ground.
@NordenHonor Capitalism had nothing to do with the mess your Economy is in, it was all because of spend thrift lefty Socialists like Labour Government. So next time you try and blame Capitalism, gain an education. You can hate it all you like, bottom line is, Capitalism has PROVEN the ONLY ism in history, to ever work.
Now try telling me we're in the debt we're in because of Capitalism and I will laugh at you. Capitalism is what drives profit to countries. Bailing out is not Capitalism.
And don't listen to that crap, Scotland won't be a better nation, England isn't our tyranny, the banks are. Scotland a better nation? With printed money? Sometimes I wonder where people get their brains from. The whole purpose of printed money is to devalue the currency and run up an even bigger inflation, throwing us further into debt with Socialism.
Difference between England and Scotland is, England are more Capitalist, Scotland are anti-Capitalist, thus the reason of our downfall.
@NordenHonor We are British people bud, being British has never had anything at all to do with a union or being English, other than the English are also British. By the way, these people are too stupid and uneducated to read and educate themselves. The Act of Union was formed because Scotland was getting no where and could not compete with England in the market, so they decided to create the Union, so that Scotland could thrive, thus they did, thus the reason for the Scottish Enlightenment.
@NordenHonor Don't believe me about this, go read about the Scottish Enlightenment and you will see, Scotland could not compete in the global market with England. Thus the reason Scotland formed a union. I do not agree that our independence was thrown away like that, but when you look at our very success, it happened because we were funded by the Union. Look at the Scottish Enlightenment success, try telling me the Union was a bad thing.
that judas that scumbag that traitor..michael forsyth has pledged to help david cameron break the scots independent bid..the thatcherite in the 80s and 90s...also campaigned against the scottish parliament building..this judas was scottish secertary under thatcher and was knighted and made a baron in the house of lords..forsyth from montrose....is a pathetic excuse of a scotsman..a quisling judas....VOTE SNP VOTE INDEPENDENCE......
Scotland can go it alone but it will find it harder than it does now. And anyway, why wish to weaken your country?
Also, many Scots need to be educated on the matter of the origins of this union, Scotland started this union not England. Scotland also made the union least fair on england by not giving us a parliment etc
@tcpgblizzard We did and that is why we are not unionists.The brain washing that they tried on us at scholl,was not effective.It wont weaken our country,its going to make it much better.OECD report says Scotland can be the 6th richest nation in the world.And if a war kicks off again in the middle east.The price off oil will sky rocket up.Hopefully bye then we will be Indy.And our troops will not need to die in it.And they can stay home,and protect this nation like they should.Instead off ivading
I do not agree with any one just in getting a vote.You should only get a vote in you were born here, don't care who yer great granny slept with.
It should be a vote for scots Only.
Well apart from Galloway he'd sell his soul for a pound.
And this is to important for the old lets roll out Billy I'm Ritch and live in america connolly or some other tax evader living in there big house abroad. Not interested don't bother spending millions telling us who is going to vote,tell why we should vote YES
so it was revealed today that westminster spent £300.000 pounds on flowers over 3 years the flowers were put outside the subsidized canteen at westminster so the politicians have something to look at as they go in....it gets better...another £400.000 was spent on the upkeep of 12 fig trees at portcullis house outside westminster....what the hell"s going on at westminster..is this where our taxes go to......VOTE SNP...VOTE INDEPENDENCE...
The London-based Centre for Economics and Business Research concludes that, unlike other parts of the UK, Scotland receives no net subsidy from the rest of the UK. Yet Unionist politicians peddle this myth constantly in a bid to persuade Scots to remain economically shackled to a London-centric UK that has not served the interests of Scotland for decades.England need Scotland's wealth to fund their wars and projects such as the Olympic village, Crossrail and London's third airport,nukes
A Unionist lexicon: An A-Z of Unionist scare stories, myths and misinformation
This is an excellent mythbuster frae newsnet scotland. com. paste the following into google search A Unionist lexicon: An A-Z of Unionist scare stories, myths and misinformation newsnet scotland
NEWSNET SCOTLAND CUTS THROUGHT THE UNIONIST LIES
REMEMBER WHEN IT COMES TO DEMOCRACY "BRITANNIA WAIVES THE RULES"
good luck to the people of scotland in their quest for independance. You have a great, proud country and i am confident that the scottish people will make the right decision when the day comes.. You have 100% support from the people of Ireland.. mick donegal..
scotland only joined the union in 1707 because the darien scheme failed....if it hadnt....things might have different.....we couldve been in a good position just like norway...theirs still time but you MUST VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE....VOTE SNP......
so David Cameron said to Alex Salmond..(at a meeting in holyrood this week)....vote no to independence and we"ll give holyrood more powers....Cameron wont say what the powers are or when we"ll get them.....this bullshit sounds like the same bullshit they fed us in 1979...when they bribed certain mps to vote no....we cant let this happen again......VOTE SNP AND SAY YES! TO INDEPENDENCE......
We do not have the funds for our own versions of MI5 and MI6, so what would we do about defence? As fossil fuels deplete our oil will be targeted by other countries. Independence would cost hugely in administration. This whole thing is the egotistical battle of one man who dislikes the PM. I am proud to be Scottish but I think voting YES is a death sentence. We could end of financially like Ireland folks; bitter. Hopefully the realistic and educated votes will outweigh the pride.
Ysterday at his speech David Cameron's only reason against Scottish independance was because it would interfere with HIS job. that is not a good enough reason He is quoted as saying
It's not about what he wants
It's about us Scots not wanting to be ruled by another country that is not doing a very good job.
Our ancestors died to give us freedom and it is an insult to their memory that the ruler of England tells us what we can and can't do.
I want to vote yes and prob. will but, the mess they have made so far ie 500 mill for there parl. building millions on trams in edinburgh and still trying to convince us we want it. now alex wants to spend upwards of 15 mill on a house for him self.
The guy is a knob. get rid of him and there would be a lot more Yes votes.
@cococeltic SNP never voted from the trams.How ever it was the SNP,that voted to get the job finish.It was Labour that made the call,to do the job in the first place.SNP called for better bus routes at the time.How ever it would have been foolish,to leave the job half finished.And since you clearly never knew that.I will just need to laugh at your closing comment.And suggest if you look at the MP,s expensies.You will find more unionist MP,s with there hand in the pot.15 million house aye right.
@legandrydirk They should have ended it and told the contractors to feck of. And the £15 m alex house is a story going round. Anyway, never liked nicola but changed my mind when I saw her on a tv program sharp as a fecking tack.
As I said I will prob. be voting yes.
But they need to get things out and prove how they are going to do it and run it.
VOTE SNP.....FOR INDEPENDENCE.....if we dont cameron or whoever is in westminster will severely punish us..economically..after 2014....DONT GIVE THEM THE CHANCE......
The only difference between Salmond and Nick Griffin is the accent! And dont be seduced you jocks because you are being led like donkeys by the village idiot into fiscal oblivion! Fact, 4.5 million on Scotland, the exchequer raises £40 billion and Scotland spends £78 either via the Assembly or by benefits from central UK. 70% of jobs are UK based and will come to England after partition. Greed, sheer greed is driving the jock nationalists!
Scotland will be free! Free from the influence of Westminster; free from duplicity, dishonesty and disingenuousness that sums up Westminster. Scotland will chart its own path and determine its own future. Just as sure as the blood of William Wallace courses through my veins, Scotland will be free. Embrace your destiny or be destroyed by it!
aye dont fall for that more powers shite bn lied to afore ! they still be stickin ther nose in our buisness, torries just anoid that theyl be a sad wee lonley country over populated full of debt and nobodies gonna listen 2
David cameron admited scotland could go it alone yesterday but would (deeply, deeply sad) if we go therefore he has more powers tranfer to edinburgh to offer if we vote NO in the vote well fuck you davie VOTE YES end london rule LETS GET OUR COUNTRY BACK !
Scots are ancient people with great culture, peoples such as Scots deserve, and not only deserve, they must have their independent country! Greetings from Serbia!
@67tim1888: The English not only take the oil that is not theirs .... today is the oil of Scotland and tomorrow is the freedom of the Scottish people ....
England is an empire and want to keep Scotland under his control ...
The ARCHAIC and RUIN ENGLISH EMPIRE IN DECLINE CLARA intends to retain the sovereign people and worthy of Scotland under his imperial power.
Argentina suffered up to 3 English invasions, the first two of them in 1806 and 1807 when Argentina was already an independent country and in 1833 the English usurped the Malvinas.
Greetings from Argentina to all the wonderful people of Scotland.
@vuckonem1996 Yeah it will be another Kosovo ,that was realy good how that happened,i agree with you Kosovo should have never been part of serbia,but alas Scotland less than 37% want to leave the union.
@MrFattyfatfatboy What will be another Kosovo war?Was Kosovo even a nation,away back in the old days?Scotland is a older nation than England and the UK.And we have the rights to be our own nation again.We never got the chance to have a say,in joining the union.Only land owners who were men got the vote in 1707.And were bribed and bullied into the deal.England made a alien act in 1704.And meant they would not trade with Scotland.They cant do that anymore,we can trade free will the rest off world.
so cameron met alex salmond today 16th feb at bute house cameron went on to say( scotland must remain in the union rf we"ll loose our seat at the security council in europe and we need the prestige of the security council)...alex replied (its not about prestige of the security council its about the people of scotland jobs healthcare and communities) if your a scotsman...you must vote SNP......for jobs for healthcare for the good of scotland....
Good god, Scotland please keep your independance, don't allow yourselves to become like Britain. Don't believe the lies that Cameron will do you favours - he's nothing but a liar and a cheat.
Keep your independance, you will never be able to turn back.
as much as it is your wet dream i would suggest you do your maths and you will find what you are throwing away will hurt Scotland badly because you would not be able to have the comforts you have enjoyed so far in the UK because
1 you would take your share of the UK national debt
2 you would have an extra 140 billion pound on top of that
3 Alex Salmond wants Scotland to be in the EU
which if you join you would adapt the Euro and all the EU laws
@BritainShallBeFree Scotland owns 8.6% of all UK assets, other than fixed assets located within the territories of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. That means that we own over 90% of the oil, because it's located in Scottish waters. We own 8.6% of all UK embassies, 8.6% of the Falkland Islands, 8.6% of the Bank of England (which despite its name is the UK's central bank) and 8.6% of the Royal Navy. We also own 8.6% of Jeremy Paxman, but we're likely to pass on that.
@thehappyhacker1 i have to say are you now speaking for Scotland or just rambling
one thing you dont realize is that in England there are several different English people the ones who are just english which are very rare and those who have Scottish welsh and irish heritages so we can never really be foreign from each other and i know about the Norse tribes so neither of our Nations can claim to be 100% anything
@BritainShallBeFree You asked three questions in a previous post, i answerd them as best i could. and lets not confuse heritage with real issue here, which is the right of people to govern themselves. are you denying that Scotland is a nation ?
@thehappyhacker1 Course im not im saying that a lot of people who support the nationalist Government believe that the English come from Germany but with the war of 1066 and the internal immigration
@BritainShallBeFree Scottish GDP in 2008 was an estimated £145 billion. The cost to the UK of the RBS / HBOS bail out in 2008 was £88 billion. However the actual Scottish share on a per capita basis was £8.8 billion, and on the debt accrued by the Scottish registered banks which would have been an independent Scotland's liability is estimated at £2.4 billion. We'd only have had to cough up even that much assuming that Scotland implemented the same slash-and-burn approach as Westminster.
@BritainShallBeFree No country can be forced into the euro. The Czech Republic joined the EU in 2004, after the euro had been adopted as the common currency of the original 11 members of the Eurozone. The Czechs won't be bounced into the euro, and have consistently refused to make moves to adopt it.
@YARROWS9 Why would he have one on the issue?I have a feeling off a massive oil find story there soon though,in the next two years.You know nice a conveniantly when we are ready for our referendum.And it will turn out to be bogus.
@YARROWS9 Read up about The Chagos islands.Before bleating on about the Falkland islanders rights to be British.It still never stopped Britain removing all the Chagos Islanders to make a air base with the yanks.And never gave a shit about 3000 peaples rights to be British.
with regards to scotland joining the euro-zone....most countries with a population the size of scotland seem to do quite well in the euro-zone and achieve a AAA credit rating ie norway finland etc...surprisingly much larger populated countries (germany and france aside) tend not to do as well...so maybe europe will suit the scots.....VOTE SNP:-)
Whom is Scotland 'Oppressed' by exactly? Two out of the last three UK prime ministers (Tony Blair and Gordon Brown) have been Scottish with many in their cabinet also being Scottish. Also, Scotland can vote on English matters whilst English MPs can't. So before you bigoted SNP squirt any more ass seepage please do a bit of research and get your facts straight. I have no problem with Scots going independence and wish the country well but I do take offense at SNP blaming England for everything!
I was born in England but to a Scottish family! During the 12 years that I lived there, I knew that I was Scottish! Then my family moved to Australia and for the 38 years that I was there, I knew that I was Scottish! Now I am back home!!! I was born in England, raised in Australia but I will die in Scotland, as a Scotsman!!! I love this country, this nation, my home and I pray to my Gods that we will once again have freedom!!! I WILL be voting YES for Scottish independence!!!
@ruiseartalcorn freedom from what exactly? It's the poor English, Welsh and Northern Irish who have had to put up with your useless Liebour Scottish prime ministers, toxic bankers and banks; we also have to fund all of your nice little perks like free uni tuition and prescriptions and constantly have to listen to that odious little man Salmond moaning everyday about the 'poor oppressed Scots'. I will also be praying for Scottish independence too as will a few million English.
@Bumcheeksish You dont subsidise anything.Scotland pays around 55 billion into the London tresury each year.And get £28 million back in a block grant,that has been slashed 3 times already this year.As for the free perks.You could have them as well,if you had a Gov that cared for you.The Scots gov does not have the power 2 intercede with the EU 2 resolve the anomaly where bye students from other EU nations are permited 3 acsess.This power is resigned 2 Westminster.So stop blaming us about things.
donald dewar the father of our modern parliament campaigned for more rights for scotland...and in 1999...almost 300 years without a proper parliament holyrood was born.....sadly our first... first minister died in 2000.....but we can honour the great mans memory by voting for independence......let scotland flourish.....
Im a transplant - a Kentucky Fried Scot who lives in Balloch with a long military career....if any one place can do it - its Scotland. Not a drop of disrespect to the UK, but lets not disrespect Scotland as well...it is fully capable with blood across the world....And while the SNP has failed to adequately address the defence issue....
England cant say Piss off and walk, there is a debt owed, security issues, and a few years negotiations to be made after the referendum- including issues such as defence - which also are central to English/Welsh national security and NOT JUST SCOTLANDS! Some say the idea of independence is a form of romanticism, but think about how 19 century Scottish determination built the United States?
From an Englishman: I do believe the Scots will get their independence, but I really hope each Scot looks carefully into it before selecting yes. It will be a sad divorce, but I would be sad if the Scots feel 10 years down the line, they have made a mistake and want to be back with the UK. I want them to do well and make the right choice.
there is no independence to be had here ,i am afraid,salmond the ex banker,wants a monetary union with england,with rates controlled by the bank of england,he also wants to retain the queen,and go back to when the union was first formed,1603 union of kings,this is actually when the union was first brought into action,and not 1707,as many think,,he wants a monarchial union of kingdoms?? all this dont sound very independent to me,,salmond is lying to you
@ShowPolitics The union will soon die, And with it the UK, this has huge constitutional implications for England and it's subjegated partners Wales and Norther Ireland. I love how people are under the illusion that the UK will still remain if Scotland leaves.
@CoinneachMacEachain I would be sad to see it disband, but Im sure that you have only looked on one side of the argument, 5 days of patriotism and then 100 years of misery, that would be the result of FULL independence.
@ShowPolitics If it had be set up fair and legitimately in the first place, we would not be here. let us decide our own future, if the original Union was set up with the consent of the Scottish people, we could probably except it, but alas that's not how it happened. so if we want to disolve a Union we did not vote for then that is our prerogative. But the upside is that it leaves England free not to rejoin the EU. An you can truly be the isolationists you appear to want to be. Alba gu bràth
@CoinneachMacEachain Its ok, I understand, 20 days of pride and patriotism and then 20 years of misery, Its ok, I understand why your getting stressed out mate...
@ShowPolitics it's that patronising attitude, that reall irks us Scots, look get over it, you are being dumped, We are getting rid of 300 years of misery, living as second class subjects. Alba gu bràth.
@CoinneachMacEachain the uk would remain,but will probably called united kingdoms,the flag wont change either,scotland is only 5 million ,in a union of 62 million
@broadband01 How sure are you of that statement....Believe me when i tell you that is a real constitional mine field, first you assume that the remaining part of the UK as you call it will have any legitimacy in the UN or the EU, as there agreements are with the UK as it is now, not just England and it's two subjegated partners Wales and Northern Ireland, it would be safer for you to assume nothing at the moment. Alba gu bràth
@broadband01 Don't forget Salmond also wants to be part of a completely artificial foreign Union-The European Union. The whole "independence" debate is bogus and should not be spoken of in those terms. The question is NOT whether Scotland wants to be "independent" but whether it wants to be in The U.K. or not. It has a large degree of self governance in The U.K. already, but as a region of Europe ( Salmond's vision) it would have LESS independence.
@broadband01 the Bank of England is independent of the Westminister government as you well know, The Queen is the head of state of many countries as you also well know, this in no way makes these countries any less independent. You must try harder, this argument is flawed.
@broadband01 Have you learned nothing from the recent banking crisis, it's priority is to it's board and their bonuses. Let's not pretend banks care about countries or borders, their interest lies in charging people to borrow money, in that respect they are pretty well much apolitical. Alba gu bràth
@broadband01 So rest asured that Scotland will make a deal,to slash our national debt.And take what we want from the MOD,for our conventinal forces.As no other nation will take the nukes.And reast asured that rump UK will want to keep them if they can afford it.Lets face it we would not be renewing them.If they never had the disire 2 keep them.The chance was had 2 get ride off them with Labour.They never took it and ordered new ones.And even in the USSR,when it split.Russia never took all weapon
@CoinneachMacEachain england wales and n ireland,will retain the seat on the security council,as happened with russia ,when the soviet union finished,we will have the nuclear weapons,the majority of the army ,navy ,air force,and also dont forget,the currency,do you not realise that london banks,control most of the worlds financial system?
@broadband01 When did the UN say that the remaining part of the UK as you call it, would retain it's seat on the security council ?, perhaps a few other countries around the world, will take advantage of the situation to make life difficult for the remaining countries of the Union, as I'm sure you are aware you are not universally liked. I would expect little support from the EU. not too popular there at the moment.
@CoinneachMacEachain they dont need to say it,it will happen,even without scotland,who is more powerful in the world than the rest of the uk,other than usa,china,russia,france ?? the answer is no one
@broadband01 You would have to define for me what you mean by powerful, certainly not economicaly there are several countries with better economies than the UK. Militarily here are a few with larger standing armies (full-time soldiers) Turkey, Thailand, Syria, Korea, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan,Myanmar, Mexico, Japan, Italy, Iran, Indonesia, India, Germany,Eritrea, Egypt, Columbia, Brazil, and a few of these are nuclear, so how do you define this power ?
@broadband01Here is the real answer.The earliest concrete plan for a new world organization was begun under the aegis of the U.S. State Department in 1939. Franklin D. Roosevelt first coined the term 'United Nations' as a term to describe the Allied countries. The term was first officially used on 1 January 1942, when 26 governments signed the Atlantic Charter, pledging to continue the war effort. On 25 April 1945, the UN Conference on International Organization began in San Francisco.
@CoinneachMacEachain if you look up obama on here,when he was speaking last year,at the historical hall[i cant recall at the moment exactly where] but in london,he did a speach,where he stated,britain as being the founder of the un
@CoinneachMacEachain also look up on google,any list of the top 6 most powerfull nations miltarily,and you will find britain there,its not about size of armies,its about technical ability
@broadband01 Japan and Germany top you in most of these lists. perhaps they will get your seat on the security council. After all, it would bring a bit of balance if one of the losing nations of the second world war had a seat.
@CoinneachMacEachain Read Henry De Weale top lawyer on EU law.He makes it clear that rump UK would also need to reknewgotiate its place in the EU.Dont listen to the Westminster bull shit.And them saying Spain will veto us to is even more bull shit.The forigne secritury made a speach from Brussels on Jan 25.Saying it was a UK constitutonal matter.And it had nothing to do with them.And that it would be sorted out.And our Indy has nothing to do with Basque and Catalan regions off Spain what so ever
@legandrydirk Thanks for that ... It's all good news, and as i suspected the remaining part of the UK will need to renegotiate their mebership of the EU. Alba gu bràth
@broadband01 Wrong when Scotland becomes Indy.Rump UK needs to renogsiate its place in the EU as well.Go and read top EU lawyer Henry De Weale on it.And while your at it,read the Nuclear commision report 1961 bye the MOD.And you will find that there is no suitable places from the nukes in the rest of the UK,that can do what can be done on the clyde.Even if you can find a place 2 build a new home for them.It will take over 12 years.And that puts Indy Scotland in the driving seat to ake a deal.
More national polls putting independence for the extremely wealthy Scots nation over Westminster unionism and Tory Rule. Aaaah lovely stuff, not long now. To all you left wingers in the north of England you're all welcome north to change the accent a bit. :) If there are enough of ya willing to flee the Tory parties:- Conservative, Labour and Libservative..
There is only one argument, if you get your independence, you will survive as nation, or else you will lose your language and identity. You should look at the Baltic states how they get their freedom from Russia. Greetings from Baltic states.
In England we have geography on our side Put a £100 levy on all lorries coming across the new boarder to travel through England to go to Europe. Enough to make somethings unviable. They can do the same to ours heading north into the sea to to trade with Greenland*!
The union began with the union of crowns made by king James vi a scottish king and you are misrepresenting me by referring to England when I clearly said the UK. There have been Unionists for a wee bit longer than oil has been considered an asset don't you think? You guys are just making this stuff up and making the english out to be the tyrants. England has not done anything seeings scotland is represented by the UK government in exactly the same way as every other part of the UK.
@itsinmynamechap and if you think the Uk goverment has represented scotland well think again about what you are saying as you should do your research before entering debates like this please I would like to direct you to foreign investment, the "UK" government has always try to get people to invest in London Why, it leaves the rest of the other 4 country in the union out in the cold. also Margaret Thatcher closed down all of Scotland major industrys so the "UK" government is not just at all.
@XLightProduction Any person in any village in any county in the UK could make the same arguments you are making about the government not representing their interests but in Scotland you choose to make political capitol out of it. And that is the long and short of it. I wish you all the best and I just wish the vote for independence would come tomorrow so we don't have to put up with this any longer. Peace out. You will still be our bros up north. All the best.
I feel the SNP has left key questions unanswered: how will Scottish economy compete on the global market? How will it fund an NHS and University subsidies? where will its defence come from? and more importantly what will happen to all those military bases and shipbuilding/submarine yards along with the thousands of jobs that depend on them? These questions MUST be addressed before the referendum so the Scots know exactly what they are voting for!
@mattwho81 Who cares. They don't want to be in a Union with the English. But I think they owe us some land and assets to get out of the Union. After all they got us all into the Union and now they have the cheek to want out. Well by rights they owe us the gold they always say Scotland was sold for. With interest.
@itsinmynamechap well to be true if Scotland left the union it would take what it owns in percentage to the population off the union. They do not have to give land or assets to get out of a union that they didn't want to be in in the first place. Why are the English so worked up about Scottish independence if Scotland is being subsidised by England. Its time to admit Scotland is a wealthy country or let us be independent.
@XLightProduction Scotland has no automatic right to anything. It was a scottish king that created the union and now 300 years later the scottish nationalists want to break with that treaty of union. Treaties aren't just for christmas are they. It just makes sense to let scotland go otherwise there would most likely be civil war and who can be arsed with that. I support the concept of the peoples right to self determination so I support scotts choosing to separate. >
@itsinmynamechap you know nothing there were no Scottish kings 150 years up to the union they were all queens and Scotland would take the land and assets that are in Scotland and that Scotland paid for. the fact of the matter remains that unionist when asked specific questions about Scottish independence they simply wont give an answer with an factual proof. So you have to ask the question why is that because they don't want to admit Scotland is a wealthy country.
@XLightProduction > The points you are making are just your and the scottish's separatist parties assertions. They have no relation to the legal reality of the situation. As it stands scottland and all of its assets are the properties of the united kingdom. Just as they have been for the last 300 years. That is just a legal fact. According to Burns scottland was sold to the english but I never rated his dogma. Scottland can negotiate or thank the UK for letting them break a binding contract.
@itsinmynamechap I'm sorry but in the treaty of unity both country's were taken into equal status but England has not upheld its side of the treaty if it did there would not be an argument over independence now. The treaty dictated that both country's have the right to there own property to say that everything in Scotland is owned by England just shows how little you know of this matter and this is why Scottish people are fighting for independence.
@XLightProduction Jesus, England even has scottish mp's voting on laws that only affect england and we even had a scottish prime minister just over a year ago. Honestly mate, I don't care. I'm just fed up already of listening to scottish nationalists blaming the english for how wet the rain is. I hope the independence you deserve brings you all happiness. But stop slagging the english off.
@itsinmynamechap trust me i wish it didn't have to sound like its slagging of the English, the majority of English are nice people but its just the truth. but ok lets say you are right about the union being made by a Scottish king, all you are doing is showing that you don't know anything of Scottish history. the last monarch of scotland was mary queen of Scots and that was some 60+ years before the union as "sorry about this" the English killed of all the monarchs to make a union.
@itsinmynamechap When can Kosovo and Metohija in Serbia, you can and Scotland.
Support for independence in the vote on this news 2049 YES: 37 NO
they have to get the land, economy, and you Scottish debts.Just like Kosovo and Metohija in the Balkans (EX Yugoslavia) and Slovenia,Croatia,Bosna and Hercegovina,and Montenegro It is time to understand the procedures Elizabeth Blair and Cameron
I vote yes, and plus I think all countries of the UK(England,Scotland,Wales,Northern Ireland) should just become their own nations and completely dissolve the UK, because face it, the UK is nothing without Scotland, the UK's own flag has Scotland's flag on it, what would it be without Scotland?
@Arthas299 Well the UK can still keep the Union Jack to remind all Scotts of when the English and Welsh ruled their arses. Thats cool with you guys isn't it? Seeings it is going to be such an amicable brake up and all. I mean you seem to want to keep the Queen and the Pound although personally I think we have let the Scotts insult us enough already.
I change my mind on this daily. I cannot decided it will take me the full 2 years till the referendum to even come close to an idea of what is better for Scotland in my opinion. Although, it is cruel to prey on the patriotism of us Scots, considering my own loyalty to her, it is easy to get carried away and not realise the gravity of this. Showing me and other Scots our homeland isn't enough to lead us to a greater Scotland.
American English and is able to devise conflicts easily .. themselves to realize what they are (pirates, imperialists and murderers) just to meet demand capitalist ... Get away, get out of people .... malvinas free ... The queen and the old bitch would have to be stopped by international invaders ... 33 countries voted to go to England malvinas ...
I am English and if Scotland votes no I will never forgive you, will be donating to the yes fund to make it so, ive nothing against the Scots, I just think both will be better off by it and there is fat chance that England will ever get such a vote. VOTE YES, Scotland will do just fine. No much better and not worse but fine, If you are English and live in Scotland VOTE YES.
My only reservation is that an independent Scotland would just be more of the same.
Salmond is firmly in Brian Souter's pockets and look what effect that's had. Bus deregulation has left thousands of rural people without public transport.
I need convincing that an independent Scotland would have real laws designed to combat political corruption, I don't want to vote for independence and end up living in England-lite.
What will the SNP do to curb lobbying/bribery in Hollyrood and local councils?
Westminster support for Scottish Independence is as scare as a Tory MSP. The people of Scotland did not vote for politicians in London so why should London pull the strings? Scotland can govern themselves, I think that's evident; just a lot of scare mongering taking place but what is there to be scared of?
The Union is a failed and one sided entity who's only concern is London and England. The days of colonial rule from London should be in the history books. So....
If Scotland separated from the UK, then wouldn't it incur more expenses by having to print its own currency and fund its own armed forces and the like?
I'm just a dude living in California, so I'm curious what this big separatists movement is all about.
@dario2015 The union between Scotland and England was the brainchild of a Scotish king he even made the flag up , all you sweeds and such have watched too much brave heart and don't have a clue its just a political union the same as the EU .
As a Scot I am NOT voting for faux independence. All Salmond wants is for us to become part of the Eurozone, this is not "independence". I fear people spend more time thinking about bagpipes and 800 year old battles, and not looking at things like our currency, and the fact that we will be fucked over by the EU.
david78937 3 hours ago
@david78937 Sure cos that is what Nationalists do right?We are not more pist off,about being shat on in living memory in the 70ties.When our oil got stolen,after the goal posts got changed at the election.So that the SNP would not win.Aye its Bannockburn that we are all really thinking about.Aye you see the NATS.Bringing up the ghosts off the dead soldiors,at every argument about keeping the union.Sure NATS are backwards,and are not really thinking about making the future better for there kids.
legandrydirk 1 hour ago
@legandrydirk Not particularly, look at your profile - full of William Wallace nonsense, I am utterly terrified of this sort of nonsense being the motivating factor behind so called independence. Salmond hasn't decided what sort of currency he plans to have, and yet, nobody has called him out on this - and just post videos with sentimental music meant to tug the heartstrings right? We must be the stupidest cunts in the world if we fall for this.
david78937 49 minutes ago
@david78937 Your a tube then if you think that film is motivating us to Independence.It was a good film,what is wrong with liking the film?I like Scar face as well.It does not make me want to start dealing and taking cocaine.Salmond has we are keeping the pound.Your clearly way behind on what is actually happening.
legandrydirk 39 minutes ago
@legandrydirk What!! So it isn't independence then is it!?? Keep the pound and surrender all control of monetary policy - no ability to set interest rates and being subject to strict economic conditions set by the Bank of England! You would have very strict conditions over it's usage and the money supply would be controlled from London - with Scotland having no say over any form of monetary policy - so you would actually lose independence. Why on earth would any sane person want to do that?
david78937 8 minutes ago
It was Scotland who kept the stupid Socialists Labour in power, Socialism was the cause of our downfall in our economy, and yes, Scotland will vote for the exact same thing once we become independent, why? Because they're stupid enough to stand outside and shout to "tax the rich" when it's the rich who create the jobs and "No Cuts" when our government don't have the money.
Same stupid socialists that'll run our country into the ground.
ScottMcK9 10 hours ago
@ScottMcK9 The rich makes the jobs and can just as easily take them away.
NordenHonor 4 hours ago
@NordenHonor Capitalism had nothing to do with the mess your Economy is in, it was all because of spend thrift lefty Socialists like Labour Government. So next time you try and blame Capitalism, gain an education. You can hate it all you like, bottom line is, Capitalism has PROVEN the ONLY ism in history, to ever work.
Now try telling me we're in the debt we're in because of Capitalism and I will laugh at you. Capitalism is what drives profit to countries. Bailing out is not Capitalism.
ScottMcK9 3 hours ago
@NordenHonor The anti-Capitalist people of Britain are the reason we're in the mess we're in.
ScottMcK9 3 hours ago
And don't listen to that crap, Scotland won't be a better nation, England isn't our tyranny, the banks are. Scotland a better nation? With printed money? Sometimes I wonder where people get their brains from. The whole purpose of printed money is to devalue the currency and run up an even bigger inflation, throwing us further into debt with Socialism.
Difference between England and Scotland is, England are more Capitalist, Scotland are anti-Capitalist, thus the reason of our downfall.
ScottMcK9 10 hours ago
Hey Scotland, You are more then welcome too join the Nordic Union, In case the brittish gives you too much crap ;D
NordenHonor 11 hours ago
@NordenHonor We are British people bud, being British has never had anything at all to do with a union or being English, other than the English are also British. By the way, these people are too stupid and uneducated to read and educate themselves. The Act of Union was formed because Scotland was getting no where and could not compete with England in the market, so they decided to create the Union, so that Scotland could thrive, thus they did, thus the reason for the Scottish Enlightenment.
ScottMcK9 10 hours ago
@NordenHonor Don't believe me about this, go read about the Scottish Enlightenment and you will see, Scotland could not compete in the global market with England. Thus the reason Scotland formed a union. I do not agree that our independence was thrown away like that, but when you look at our very success, it happened because we were funded by the Union. Look at the Scottish Enlightenment success, try telling me the Union was a bad thing.
ScottMcK9 10 hours ago
that judas that scumbag that traitor..michael forsyth has pledged to help david cameron break the scots independent bid..the thatcherite in the 80s and 90s...also campaigned against the scottish parliament building..this judas was scottish secertary under thatcher and was knighted and made a baron in the house of lords..forsyth from montrose....is a pathetic excuse of a scotsman..a quisling judas....VOTE SNP VOTE INDEPENDENCE......
snpforever019 2 days ago
Scotland can go it alone but it will find it harder than it does now. And anyway, why wish to weaken your country?
Also, many Scots need to be educated on the matter of the origins of this union, Scotland started this union not England. Scotland also made the union least fair on england by not giving us a parliment etc
tcpgblizzard 2 days ago
@tcpgblizzard We did and that is why we are not unionists.The brain washing that they tried on us at scholl,was not effective.It wont weaken our country,its going to make it much better.OECD report says Scotland can be the 6th richest nation in the world.And if a war kicks off again in the middle east.The price off oil will sky rocket up.Hopefully bye then we will be Indy.And our troops will not need to die in it.And they can stay home,and protect this nation like they should.Instead off ivading
legandrydirk 1 day ago
I do not agree with any one just in getting a vote.You should only get a vote in you were born here, don't care who yer great granny slept with.
It should be a vote for scots Only.
Well apart from Galloway he'd sell his soul for a pound.
And this is to important for the old lets roll out Billy I'm Ritch and live in america connolly or some other tax evader living in there big house abroad. Not interested don't bother spending millions telling us who is going to vote,tell why we should vote YES
cococeltic 2 days ago
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Yes to an idependent Scotland.
Greetings from Greece.
TheBaronofBallstein 3 days ago
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TheBaronofBallstein 3 days ago
so it was revealed today that westminster spent £300.000 pounds on flowers over 3 years the flowers were put outside the subsidized canteen at westminster so the politicians have something to look at as they go in....it gets better...another £400.000 was spent on the upkeep of 12 fig trees at portcullis house outside westminster....what the hell"s going on at westminster..is this where our taxes go to......VOTE SNP...VOTE INDEPENDENCE...
snpforever019 3 days ago
If Scotland becomes independent, by God it will be one of my favorite European countries.
Fight on, highlanders.
Greetings from the US
AuburnAttack21 3 days ago
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The London-based Centre for Economics and Business Research concludes that, unlike other parts of the UK, Scotland receives no net subsidy from the rest of the UK. Yet Unionist politicians peddle this myth constantly in a bid to persuade Scots to remain economically shackled to a London-centric UK that has not served the interests of Scotland for decades.England need Scotland's wealth to fund their wars and projects such as the Olympic village, Crossrail and London's third airport,nukes
haggisman11 3 days ago
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NO - keep the strongest and most successful union in history. Together we have SECURITY and INFLUENCE, and above all we are STRONGER.
domsokalski1 4 days ago
i'm Scottish myself. and i'm forward for independence. But i doubt we could last a week.
DUMGAL1 4 days ago
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@DUMGAL1 WRONG, SCOTLAND SUBSIDSES THE UK
A Unionist lexicon: An A-Z of Unionist scare stories, myths and misinformation
This is an excellent mythbuster frae newsnet scotland. com. paste the following into google search A Unionist lexicon: An A-Z of Unionist scare stories, myths and misinformation newsnet scotland
NEWSNET SCOTLAND CUTS THROUGHT THE UNIONIST LIES
REMEMBER WHEN IT COMES TO DEMOCRACY "BRITANNIA WAIVES THE RULES"
EVEN CAMERON SAYS WE CPULD GO IT ALONE
VOTE AYE
haggisman11 3 days ago
@DUMGAL1 Find out who JOSEPH STIGLITS is then.And read what he says about Scotland
legandrydirk 3 days ago
good luck to the people of scotland in their quest for independance. You have a great, proud country and i am confident that the scottish people will make the right decision when the day comes.. You have 100% support from the people of Ireland.. mick donegal..
mickyboy1989 4 days ago
scotland only joined the union in 1707 because the darien scheme failed....if it hadnt....things might have different.....we couldve been in a good position just like norway...theirs still time but you MUST VOTE FOR INDEPENDENCE....VOTE SNP......
snpforever019 4 days ago
so David Cameron said to Alex Salmond..(at a meeting in holyrood this week)....vote no to independence and we"ll give holyrood more powers....Cameron wont say what the powers are or when we"ll get them.....this bullshit sounds like the same bullshit they fed us in 1979...when they bribed certain mps to vote no....we cant let this happen again......VOTE SNP AND SAY YES! TO INDEPENDENCE......
snpforever019 5 days ago
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We do not have the funds for our own versions of MI5 and MI6, so what would we do about defence? As fossil fuels deplete our oil will be targeted by other countries. Independence would cost hugely in administration. This whole thing is the egotistical battle of one man who dislikes the PM. I am proud to be Scottish but I think voting YES is a death sentence. We could end of financially like Ireland folks; bitter. Hopefully the realistic and educated votes will outweigh the pride.
jmorgan91100 5 days ago
Ysterday at his speech David Cameron's only reason against Scottish independance was because it would interfere with HIS job. that is not a good enough reason He is quoted as saying
It's not about what he wants
It's about us Scots not wanting to be ruled by another country that is not doing a very good job.
Our ancestors died to give us freedom and it is an insult to their memory that the ruler of England tells us what we can and can't do.
Give us back our country and our FREEDOM
MADMANgamemplay 5 days ago in playlist Liked videos
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Awesome comment, great. Long live William Wallace and Scotland alive.
Freedom, independence for Scotland.
Enough of English colonialism, no more tyranny of David Cameron.
Greetings from Argentina.
cibernetico73 5 days ago
I want to vote yes and prob. will but, the mess they have made so far ie 500 mill for there parl. building millions on trams in edinburgh and still trying to convince us we want it. now alex wants to spend upwards of 15 mill on a house for him self.
The guy is a knob. get rid of him and there would be a lot more Yes votes.
.SET MY PEOPLE FREE..
cococeltic 5 days ago
@cococeltic SNP never voted from the trams.How ever it was the SNP,that voted to get the job finish.It was Labour that made the call,to do the job in the first place.SNP called for better bus routes at the time.How ever it would have been foolish,to leave the job half finished.And since you clearly never knew that.I will just need to laugh at your closing comment.And suggest if you look at the MP,s expensies.You will find more unionist MP,s with there hand in the pot.15 million house aye right.
legandrydirk 5 days ago
@legandrydirk They should have ended it and told the contractors to feck of. And the £15 m alex house is a story going round. Anyway, never liked nicola but changed my mind when I saw her on a tv program sharp as a fecking tack.
As I said I will prob. be voting yes.
But they need to get things out and prove how they are going to do it and run it.
cococeltic 2 days ago
VOTE SNP.....FOR INDEPENDENCE.....if we dont cameron or whoever is in westminster will severely punish us..economically..after 2014....DONT GIVE THEM THE CHANCE......
snpforever019 6 days ago
Remember this question is merely out of ignorance. Couldn't scotland not simply rejoin England if things don't work out?
philpay95 6 days ago
@philpay95 You mean rejoin Britain? :P
BadlyToldFairyTales 6 days ago
@BadlyToldFairyTales Oh...yes. Omg im starting to sound like an American -_-
philpay95 6 days ago
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The only difference between Salmond and Nick Griffin is the accent! And dont be seduced you jocks because you are being led like donkeys by the village idiot into fiscal oblivion! Fact, 4.5 million on Scotland, the exchequer raises £40 billion and Scotland spends £78 either via the Assembly or by benefits from central UK. 70% of jobs are UK based and will come to England after partition. Greed, sheer greed is driving the jock nationalists!
MrMickroach 6 days ago
Scotland will be free! Free from the influence of Westminster; free from duplicity, dishonesty and disingenuousness that sums up Westminster. Scotland will chart its own path and determine its own future. Just as sure as the blood of William Wallace courses through my veins, Scotland will be free. Embrace your destiny or be destroyed by it!
moctezuma696 6 days ago
@moctezuma696: Awesome comment, great. Long live William Wallace and Scotland alive.
Freedom, independence for Scotland.
Enough of English colonialism, no more tyranny of David Cameron.
Greetings from Argentina.
cibernetico73 6 days ago
@cibernetico73 Together, united in one cause can Scotland move forward. Scotland will be free. Enjoy the sun compadre!
moctezuma696 6 days ago
@moctezuma696: Thank you very much and greetings to the people of Scotland.
cibernetico73 5 days ago
aye dont fall for that more powers shite bn lied to afore ! they still be stickin ther nose in our buisness, torries just anoid that theyl be a sad wee lonley country over populated full of debt and nobodies gonna listen 2
FraserMGZR 6 days ago
David cameron admited scotland could go it alone yesterday but would (deeply, deeply sad) if we go therefore he has more powers tranfer to edinburgh to offer if we vote NO in the vote well fuck you davie VOTE YES end london rule LETS GET OUR COUNTRY BACK !
o0scotland0o 6 days ago 9
@o0scotland0o: Well spoken, very well said. Excellent comment.
Greetings from Argentina.
cibernetico73 6 days ago
@o0scotland0o
Yeah good luck, you will need it.
tcpgblizzard 2 days ago
Scots are ancient people with great culture, peoples such as Scots deserve, and not only deserve, they must have their independent country! Greetings from Serbia!
3SRBIJACCCC 6 days ago
independant Scotland will be the world leader in renewable energy so the english can take all of scotlands oil for i care we don't need it
67tim1888 6 days ago
@67tim1888: The English not only take the oil that is not theirs .... today is the oil of Scotland and tomorrow is the freedom of the Scottish people ....
England is an empire and want to keep Scotland under his control ...
INDEPENDENCE FOR SCOTLAND.
cibernetico73 6 days ago
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The ARCHAIC and RUIN ENGLISH EMPIRE IN DECLINE CLARA intends to retain the sovereign people and worthy of Scotland under his imperial power.
Argentina suffered up to 3 English invasions, the first two of them in 1806 and 1807 when Argentina was already an independent country and in 1833 the English usurped the Malvinas.
Greetings from Argentina to all the wonderful people of Scotland.
cibernetico73 6 days ago
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I support the independence of Scotland, Scotland must become independent of England as it was until 1707.
English imperialism Enough, enough of English oppression, enough of the English colonies in the XXI century.
cibernetico73 6 days ago
support of the Republic of Scotland.
When can Yugoslavia, Serbia (autonomy of Kosovo and Metohija), can and Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, Fokland ...
To see the end of frustrated Elizabeth and American in Europe.
YES
anakurenjina 1 week ago
Vote YES for indepedence of Scotland.
Greetings from Serbia.
vuckonem1996 1 week ago 14
@vuckonem1996
Ha.
tcpgblizzard 2 days ago
@vuckonem1996 Yeah it will be another Kosovo ,that was realy good how that happened,i agree with you Kosovo should have never been part of serbia,but alas Scotland less than 37% want to leave the union.
MrFattyfatfatboy 1 day ago
@MrFattyfatfatboy What will be another Kosovo war?Was Kosovo even a nation,away back in the old days?Scotland is a older nation than England and the UK.And we have the rights to be our own nation again.We never got the chance to have a say,in joining the union.Only land owners who were men got the vote in 1707.And were bribed and bullied into the deal.England made a alien act in 1704.And meant they would not trade with Scotland.They cant do that anymore,we can trade free will the rest off world.
legandrydirk 1 day ago
so cameron met alex salmond today 16th feb at bute house cameron went on to say( scotland must remain in the union rf we"ll loose our seat at the security council in europe and we need the prestige of the security council)...alex replied (its not about prestige of the security council its about the people of scotland jobs healthcare and communities) if your a scotsman...you must vote SNP......for jobs for healthcare for the good of scotland....
snpforever019 1 week ago
build hadrians wall back up n keep the fukin scots out
shearer99ful 1 week ago
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shearer99ful 1 week ago
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Good god, Scotland please keep your independance, don't allow yourselves to become like Britain. Don't believe the lies that Cameron will do you favours - he's nothing but a liar and a cheat.
Keep your independance, you will never be able to turn back.
sweetypie000 1 week ago
and before you say you trust him and make yourself look more of an idiot
i am going to say that in this world you live by one rule
never trust politician they are always out for their own end
BritainShallBeFree 1 week ago
as much as it is your wet dream i would suggest you do your maths and you will find what you are throwing away will hurt Scotland badly because you would not be able to have the comforts you have enjoyed so far in the UK because
1 you would take your share of the UK national debt
2 you would have an extra 140 billion pound on top of that
3 Alex Salmond wants Scotland to be in the EU
which if you join you would adapt the Euro and all the EU laws
BritainShallBeFree 1 week ago
@BritainShallBeFree Scotland owns 8.6% of all UK assets, other than fixed assets located within the territories of England, Wales and Northern Ireland. That means that we own over 90% of the oil, because it's located in Scottish waters. We own 8.6% of all UK embassies, 8.6% of the Falkland Islands, 8.6% of the Bank of England (which despite its name is the UK's central bank) and 8.6% of the Royal Navy. We also own 8.6% of Jeremy Paxman, but we're likely to pass on that.
thehappyhacker1 6 days ago
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BritainShallBeFree 5 days ago
@thehappyhacker1 i have to say are you now speaking for Scotland or just rambling
one thing you dont realize is that in England there are several different English people the ones who are just english which are very rare and those who have Scottish welsh and irish heritages so we can never really be foreign from each other and i know about the Norse tribes so neither of our Nations can claim to be 100% anything
BritainShallBeFree 5 days ago
@BritainShallBeFree You asked three questions in a previous post, i answerd them as best i could. and lets not confuse heritage with real issue here, which is the right of people to govern themselves. are you denying that Scotland is a nation ?
thehappyhacker1 5 days ago
@thehappyhacker1 Course im not im saying that a lot of people who support the nationalist Government believe that the English come from Germany but with the war of 1066 and the internal immigration
BritainShallBeFree 5 days ago
@thehappyhacker1 as well as the immigration from main land Europe into all our Home Nations how can we claim to be 100% anything ?
BritainShallBeFree 5 days ago
@BritainShallBeFree Scottish GDP in 2008 was an estimated £145 billion. The cost to the UK of the RBS / HBOS bail out in 2008 was £88 billion. However the actual Scottish share on a per capita basis was £8.8 billion, and on the debt accrued by the Scottish registered banks which would have been an independent Scotland's liability is estimated at £2.4 billion. We'd only have had to cough up even that much assuming that Scotland implemented the same slash-and-burn approach as Westminster.
thehappyhacker1 6 days ago
@BritainShallBeFree No country can be forced into the euro. The Czech Republic joined the EU in 2004, after the euro had been adopted as the common currency of the original 11 members of the Eurozone. The Czechs won't be bounced into the euro, and have consistently refused to make moves to adopt it.
thehappyhacker1 6 days ago
Whats anti Britishness Salmonds stance on the Falklands, wi the Argies no dubt.
YARROWS9 1 week ago
@YARROWS9 Why would he have one on the issue?I have a feeling off a massive oil find story there soon though,in the next two years.You know nice a conveniantly when we are ready for our referendum.And it will turn out to be bogus.
legandrydirk 1 week ago
@YARROWS9 Read up about The Chagos islands.Before bleating on about the Falkland islanders rights to be British.It still never stopped Britain removing all the Chagos Islanders to make a air base with the yanks.And never gave a shit about 3000 peaples rights to be British.
legandrydirk 5 days ago
with regards to scotland joining the euro-zone....most countries with a population the size of scotland seem to do quite well in the euro-zone and achieve a AAA credit rating ie norway finland etc...surprisingly much larger populated countries (germany and france aside) tend not to do as well...so maybe europe will suit the scots.....VOTE SNP:-)
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WiredCountDuckula 1 week ago
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Whom is Scotland 'Oppressed' by exactly? Two out of the last three UK prime ministers (Tony Blair and Gordon Brown) have been Scottish with many in their cabinet also being Scottish. Also, Scotland can vote on English matters whilst English MPs can't. So before you bigoted SNP squirt any more ass seepage please do a bit of research and get your facts straight. I have no problem with Scots going independence and wish the country well but I do take offense at SNP blaming England for everything!
Bumcheeksish 1 week ago
I was born in England but to a Scottish family! During the 12 years that I lived there, I knew that I was Scottish! Then my family moved to Australia and for the 38 years that I was there, I knew that I was Scottish! Now I am back home!!! I was born in England, raised in Australia but I will die in Scotland, as a Scotsman!!! I love this country, this nation, my home and I pray to my Gods that we will once again have freedom!!! I WILL be voting YES for Scottish independence!!!
ruiseartalcorn 1 week ago
@ruiseartalcorn freedom from what exactly? It's the poor English, Welsh and Northern Irish who have had to put up with your useless Liebour Scottish prime ministers, toxic bankers and banks; we also have to fund all of your nice little perks like free uni tuition and prescriptions and constantly have to listen to that odious little man Salmond moaning everyday about the 'poor oppressed Scots'. I will also be praying for Scottish independence too as will a few million English.
Bumcheeksish 1 week ago
@Bumcheeksish You dont subsidise anything.Scotland pays around 55 billion into the London tresury each year.And get £28 million back in a block grant,that has been slashed 3 times already this year.As for the free perks.You could have them as well,if you had a Gov that cared for you.The Scots gov does not have the power 2 intercede with the EU 2 resolve the anomaly where bye students from other EU nations are permited 3 acsess.This power is resigned 2 Westminster.So stop blaming us about things.
legandrydirk 1 week ago
donald dewar the father of our modern parliament campaigned for more rights for scotland...and in 1999...almost 300 years without a proper parliament holyrood was born.....sadly our first... first minister died in 2000.....but we can honour the great mans memory by voting for independence......let scotland flourish.....
snpforever019 1 week ago
I am argentinian and vote YES for Scottish independence.
Saludos y abrazos al pueblo escoces desde Argentina.
cibernetico73 1 week ago
Scotland the Brave, not Scotland the SLAVE.
MsBubbabong 1 week ago
Im a transplant - a Kentucky Fried Scot who lives in Balloch with a long military career....if any one place can do it - its Scotland. Not a drop of disrespect to the UK, but lets not disrespect Scotland as well...it is fully capable with blood across the world....And while the SNP has failed to adequately address the defence issue....
ZOMBIEVONGHOULLIE 1 week ago
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England cant say Piss off and walk, there is a debt owed, security issues, and a few years negotiations to be made after the referendum- including issues such as defence - which also are central to English/Welsh national security and NOT JUST SCOTLANDS! Some say the idea of independence is a form of romanticism, but think about how 19 century Scottish determination built the United States?
ZOMBIEVONGHOULLIE 1 week ago
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"It costs the 60 million population of the UK £40 Million a Day to be in European Union".
(£234 a head)
"It costs the 5 million population of SCOTLAND £32 Million a Day to be in the UK Union - in oil and gas revenues alone" (£2300 a head)
thehappyhacker1 2 weeks ago
From an Englishman: I do believe the Scots will get their independence, but I really hope each Scot looks carefully into it before selecting yes. It will be a sad divorce, but I would be sad if the Scots feel 10 years down the line, they have made a mistake and want to be back with the UK. I want them to do well and make the right choice.
atthegatestonowhere 2 weeks ago
@atthegatestonowhere at least we will be rid of your lot
scottishlad1963 2 weeks ago
there is no independence to be had here ,i am afraid,salmond the ex banker,wants a monetary union with england,with rates controlled by the bank of england,he also wants to retain the queen,and go back to when the union was first formed,1603 union of kings,this is actually when the union was first brought into action,and not 1707,as many think,,he wants a monarchial union of kingdoms?? all this dont sound very independent to me,,salmond is lying to you
broadband01 2 weeks ago
@broadband01 Good man, keep protecting the union, Im with you 100%.
ShowPolitics 2 weeks ago
@ShowPolitics The union will soon die, And with it the UK, this has huge constitutional implications for England and it's subjegated partners Wales and Norther Ireland. I love how people are under the illusion that the UK will still remain if Scotland leaves.
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain I would be sad to see it disband, but Im sure that you have only looked on one side of the argument, 5 days of patriotism and then 100 years of misery, that would be the result of FULL independence.
ShowPolitics 1 week ago
@ShowPolitics If it had be set up fair and legitimately in the first place, we would not be here. let us decide our own future, if the original Union was set up with the consent of the Scottish people, we could probably except it, but alas that's not how it happened. so if we want to disolve a Union we did not vote for then that is our prerogative. But the upside is that it leaves England free not to rejoin the EU. An you can truly be the isolationists you appear to want to be. Alba gu bràth
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain Its ok, I understand, 20 days of pride and patriotism and then 20 years of misery, Its ok, I understand why your getting stressed out mate...
ShowPolitics 1 week ago
@ShowPolitics it's that patronising attitude, that reall irks us Scots, look get over it, you are being dumped, We are getting rid of 300 years of misery, living as second class subjects. Alba gu bràth.
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain Im not being patrionising, Im telling you how it will be...
ShowPolitics 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain the uk would remain,but will probably called united kingdoms,the flag wont change either,scotland is only 5 million ,in a union of 62 million
broadband01 1 week ago
@broadband01 that fat ex banker wanker salmond will fail in his pipedreams,common sense will rule the day ,come the referendum
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CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
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@broadband01 How sure are you of that statement....Believe me when i tell you that is a real constitional mine field, first you assume that the remaining part of the UK as you call it will have any legitimacy in the UN or the EU, as there agreements are with the UK as it is now, not just England and it's two subjegated partners Wales and Northern Ireland, it would be safer for you to assume nothing at the moment. Alba gu bràth
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@broadband01 Don't forget Salmond also wants to be part of a completely artificial foreign Union-The European Union. The whole "independence" debate is bogus and should not be spoken of in those terms. The question is NOT whether Scotland wants to be "independent" but whether it wants to be in The U.K. or not. It has a large degree of self governance in The U.K. already, but as a region of Europe ( Salmond's vision) it would have LESS independence.
bossendenwoodconvict 2 weeks ago
@broadband01 the Bank of England is independent of the Westminister government as you well know, The Queen is the head of state of many countries as you also well know, this in no way makes these countries any less independent. You must try harder, this argument is flawed.
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain maybe,but its main priority is to the uk economy
broadband01 1 week ago
@broadband01 Have you learned nothing from the recent banking crisis, it's priority is to it's board and their bonuses. Let's not pretend banks care about countries or borders, their interest lies in charging people to borrow money, in that respect they are pretty well much apolitical. Alba gu bràth
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain yes [people] who the majority actually live in england and wales and n ireland
broadband01 1 week ago
@broadband01 So rest asured that Scotland will make a deal,to slash our national debt.And take what we want from the MOD,for our conventinal forces.As no other nation will take the nukes.And reast asured that rump UK will want to keep them if they can afford it.Lets face it we would not be renewing them.If they never had the disire 2 keep them.The chance was had 2 get ride off them with Labour.They never took it and ordered new ones.And even in the USSR,when it split.Russia never took all weapon
legandrydirk 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain england wales and n ireland,will retain the seat on the security council,as happened with russia ,when the soviet union finished,we will have the nuclear weapons,the majority of the army ,navy ,air force,and also dont forget,the currency,do you not realise that london banks,control most of the worlds financial system?
broadband01 1 week ago
@broadband01 When did the UN say that the remaining part of the UK as you call it, would retain it's seat on the security council ?, perhaps a few other countries around the world, will take advantage of the situation to make life difficult for the remaining countries of the Union, as I'm sure you are aware you are not universally liked. I would expect little support from the EU. not too popular there at the moment.
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain they dont need to say it,it will happen,even without scotland,who is more powerful in the world than the rest of the uk,other than usa,china,russia,france ?? the answer is no one
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CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
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@broadband01 You would have to define for me what you mean by powerful, certainly not economicaly there are several countries with better economies than the UK. Militarily here are a few with larger standing armies (full-time soldiers) Turkey, Thailand, Syria, Korea, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan,Myanmar, Mexico, Japan, Italy, Iran, Indonesia, India, Germany,Eritrea, Egypt, Columbia, Brazil, and a few of these are nuclear, so how do you define this power ?
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain also,who invented the un? the answer is we did
broadband01 1 week ago
@broadband01Here is the real answer.The earliest concrete plan for a new world organization was begun under the aegis of the U.S. State Department in 1939. Franklin D. Roosevelt first coined the term 'United Nations' as a term to describe the Allied countries. The term was first officially used on 1 January 1942, when 26 governments signed the Atlantic Charter, pledging to continue the war effort. On 25 April 1945, the UN Conference on International Organization began in San Francisco.
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain if you look up obama on here,when he was speaking last year,at the historical hall[i cant recall at the moment exactly where] but in london,he did a speach,where he stated,britain as being the founder of the un
broadband01 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain also look up on google,any list of the top 6 most powerfull nations miltarily,and you will find britain there,its not about size of armies,its about technical ability
broadband01 1 week ago
@broadband01 Japan and Germany top you in most of these lists. perhaps they will get your seat on the security council. After all, it would bring a bit of balance if one of the losing nations of the second world war had a seat.
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain japan and germany/? dont make me laugh,they dont even have nuclear weapons
broadband01 1 week ago
@CoinneachMacEachain Read Henry De Weale top lawyer on EU law.He makes it clear that rump UK would also need to reknewgotiate its place in the EU.Dont listen to the Westminster bull shit.And them saying Spain will veto us to is even more bull shit.The forigne secritury made a speach from Brussels on Jan 25.Saying it was a UK constitutonal matter.And it had nothing to do with them.And that it would be sorted out.And our Indy has nothing to do with Basque and Catalan regions off Spain what so ever
legandrydirk 1 week ago
@legandrydirk Thanks for that ... It's all good news, and as i suspected the remaining part of the UK will need to renegotiate their mebership of the EU. Alba gu bràth
CoinneachMacEachain 1 week ago
@broadband01 Wrong when Scotland becomes Indy.Rump UK needs to renogsiate its place in the EU as well.Go and read top EU lawyer Henry De Weale on it.And while your at it,read the Nuclear commision report 1961 bye the MOD.And you will find that there is no suitable places from the nukes in the rest of the UK,that can do what can be done on the clyde.Even if you can find a place 2 build a new home for them.It will take over 12 years.And that puts Indy Scotland in the driving seat to ake a deal.
legandrydirk 1 week ago
grow a spine u scots fence sitters, if only we in england had a leader like Alex Salmond who looks forward and not in circles
Englishjustice66 2 weeks ago
More national polls putting independence for the extremely wealthy Scots nation over Westminster unionism and Tory Rule. Aaaah lovely stuff, not long now. To all you left wingers in the north of England you're all welcome north to change the accent a bit. :) If there are enough of ya willing to flee the Tory parties:- Conservative, Labour and Libservative..
laughinbudda13 2 weeks ago
There is only one argument, if you get your independence, you will survive as nation, or else you will lose your language and identity. You should look at the Baltic states how they get their freedom from Russia. Greetings from Baltic states.
7agris 2 weeks ago
In England we have geography on our side Put a £100 levy on all lorries coming across the new boarder to travel through England to go to Europe. Enough to make somethings unviable. They can do the same to ours heading north into the sea to to trade with Greenland*!
20Alanpartridge 2 weeks ago
Lots of bagpipes, thistles, and heather in this video, but not a single argument for voting yes in a referendum!
minchul80 2 weeks ago
The union began with the union of crowns made by king James vi a scottish king and you are misrepresenting me by referring to England when I clearly said the UK. There have been Unionists for a wee bit longer than oil has been considered an asset don't you think? You guys are just making this stuff up and making the english out to be the tyrants. England has not done anything seeings scotland is represented by the UK government in exactly the same way as every other part of the UK.
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap and if you think the Uk goverment has represented scotland well think again about what you are saying as you should do your research before entering debates like this please I would like to direct you to foreign investment, the "UK" government has always try to get people to invest in London Why, it leaves the rest of the other 4 country in the union out in the cold. also Margaret Thatcher closed down all of Scotland major industrys so the "UK" government is not just at all.
XLightProduction 2 weeks ago
@XLightProduction Any person in any village in any county in the UK could make the same arguments you are making about the government not representing their interests but in Scotland you choose to make political capitol out of it. And that is the long and short of it. I wish you all the best and I just wish the vote for independence would come tomorrow so we don't have to put up with this any longer. Peace out. You will still be our bros up north. All the best.
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
I hope the Scots know they will have to take Northern Ireland.
MrRobertJameson 2 weeks ago
I feel the SNP has left key questions unanswered: how will Scottish economy compete on the global market? How will it fund an NHS and University subsidies? where will its defence come from? and more importantly what will happen to all those military bases and shipbuilding/submarine yards along with the thousands of jobs that depend on them? These questions MUST be addressed before the referendum so the Scots know exactly what they are voting for!
mattwho81 2 weeks ago
@mattwho81 Who cares. They don't want to be in a Union with the English. But I think they owe us some land and assets to get out of the Union. After all they got us all into the Union and now they have the cheek to want out. Well by rights they owe us the gold they always say Scotland was sold for. With interest.
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap well to be true if Scotland left the union it would take what it owns in percentage to the population off the union. They do not have to give land or assets to get out of a union that they didn't want to be in in the first place. Why are the English so worked up about Scottish independence if Scotland is being subsidised by England. Its time to admit Scotland is a wealthy country or let us be independent.
XLightProduction 2 weeks ago
@XLightProduction Scotland has no automatic right to anything. It was a scottish king that created the union and now 300 years later the scottish nationalists want to break with that treaty of union. Treaties aren't just for christmas are they. It just makes sense to let scotland go otherwise there would most likely be civil war and who can be arsed with that. I support the concept of the peoples right to self determination so I support scotts choosing to separate. >
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap you know nothing there were no Scottish kings 150 years up to the union they were all queens and Scotland would take the land and assets that are in Scotland and that Scotland paid for. the fact of the matter remains that unionist when asked specific questions about Scottish independence they simply wont give an answer with an factual proof. So you have to ask the question why is that because they don't want to admit Scotland is a wealthy country.
XLightProduction 2 weeks ago
@XLightProduction > The points you are making are just your and the scottish's separatist parties assertions. They have no relation to the legal reality of the situation. As it stands scottland and all of its assets are the properties of the united kingdom. Just as they have been for the last 300 years. That is just a legal fact. According to Burns scottland was sold to the english but I never rated his dogma. Scottland can negotiate or thank the UK for letting them break a binding contract.
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap I'm sorry but in the treaty of unity both country's were taken into equal status but England has not upheld its side of the treaty if it did there would not be an argument over independence now. The treaty dictated that both country's have the right to there own property to say that everything in Scotland is owned by England just shows how little you know of this matter and this is why Scottish people are fighting for independence.
XLightProduction 2 weeks ago
@XLightProduction Jesus, England even has scottish mp's voting on laws that only affect england and we even had a scottish prime minister just over a year ago. Honestly mate, I don't care. I'm just fed up already of listening to scottish nationalists blaming the english for how wet the rain is. I hope the independence you deserve brings you all happiness. But stop slagging the english off.
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap trust me i wish it didn't have to sound like its slagging of the English, the majority of English are nice people but its just the truth. but ok lets say you are right about the union being made by a Scottish king, all you are doing is showing that you don't know anything of Scottish history. the last monarch of scotland was mary queen of Scots and that was some 60+ years before the union as "sorry about this" the English killed of all the monarchs to make a union.
XLightProduction 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap When can Kosovo and Metohija in Serbia, you can and Scotland.
Support for independence in the vote on this news 2049 YES: 37 NO
they have to get the land, economy, and you Scottish debts.Just like Kosovo and Metohija in the Balkans (EX Yugoslavia) and Slovenia,Croatia,Bosna and Hercegovina,and Montenegro It is time to understand the procedures Elizabeth Blair and Cameron
anakurenjina 1 week ago
@anakurenjina Random people from EX Yugoslavia should mind their own business don't you think.
itsinmynamechap 5 days ago
I vote yes, and plus I think all countries of the UK(England,Scotland,Wales,Northern Ireland) should just become their own nations and completely dissolve the UK, because face it, the UK is nothing without Scotland, the UK's own flag has Scotland's flag on it, what would it be without Scotland?
Arthas299 2 weeks ago
@Arthas299 Well the UK can still keep the Union Jack to remind all Scotts of when the English and Welsh ruled their arses. Thats cool with you guys isn't it? Seeings it is going to be such an amicable brake up and all. I mean you seem to want to keep the Queen and the Pound although personally I think we have let the Scotts insult us enough already.
itsinmynamechap 2 weeks ago
@itsinmynamechap The UK is nothing without Scotland, peroid, the end.
Arthas299 2 weeks ago
Everything that Scotland has contributed to the world - which is a disproportionate amount - it did as after the Union.
KapernicusI 2 weeks ago
I change my mind on this daily. I cannot decided it will take me the full 2 years till the referendum to even come close to an idea of what is better for Scotland in my opinion. Although, it is cruel to prey on the patriotism of us Scots, considering my own loyalty to her, it is easy to get carried away and not realise the gravity of this. Showing me and other Scots our homeland isn't enough to lead us to a greater Scotland.
DanDiatomic92 2 weeks ago
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American English and is able to devise conflicts easily .. themselves to realize what they are (pirates, imperialists and murderers) just to meet demand capitalist ... Get away, get out of people .... malvinas free ... The queen and the old bitch would have to be stopped by international invaders ... 33 countries voted to go to England malvinas ...
dario2015 2 weeks ago
now this law toad in youtube ... can not tell the truth let yourself be transported to fuck .... Pirates are pirates will die ""
dario2015 2 weeks ago
I am English and if Scotland votes no I will never forgive you, will be donating to the yes fund to make it so, ive nothing against the Scots, I just think both will be better off by it and there is fat chance that England will ever get such a vote. VOTE YES, Scotland will do just fine. No much better and not worse but fine, If you are English and live in Scotland VOTE YES.
SteveMakesAmillion 3 weeks ago
seems to me the ones shouting No, are the ones who know fuck all about Scotland, usual negative oh you can't, you will fail, etc, .....Yes We Can!
ELONut 3 weeks ago
My only reservation is that an independent Scotland would just be more of the same.
Salmond is firmly in Brian Souter's pockets and look what effect that's had. Bus deregulation has left thousands of rural people without public transport.
I need convincing that an independent Scotland would have real laws designed to combat political corruption, I don't want to vote for independence and end up living in England-lite.
What will the SNP do to curb lobbying/bribery in Hollyrood and local councils?
asubjectiveopinion 3 weeks ago
Just a dude from Qc, and I think all nations should have their own country, govern themselves, and have its own voice internationally. Cheers.
winnix4000 3 weeks ago
Westminster support for Scottish Independence is as scare as a Tory MSP. The people of Scotland did not vote for politicians in London so why should London pull the strings? Scotland can govern themselves, I think that's evident; just a lot of scare mongering taking place but what is there to be scared of?
The Union is a failed and one sided entity who's only concern is London and England. The days of colonial rule from London should be in the history books. So....
Vote Scottish Independence!!
breandandoire 3 weeks ago
If Scotland separated from the UK, then wouldn't it incur more expenses by having to print its own currency and fund its own armed forces and the like?
I'm just a dude living in California, so I'm curious what this big separatists movement is all about.
Capt777harris 3 weeks ago
if the subject of the world decides malvinas lose the English, if you choose common sense too, the story of conviction and protects United States ...
dario2015 3 weeks ago
ingland pirates free scotland ,, abrazo desde argentina
dario2015 3 weeks ago
@dario2015 The union between Scotland and England was the brainchild of a Scotish king he even made the flag up , all you sweeds and such have watched too much brave heart and don't have a clue its just a political union the same as the EU .
woofalot13 3 weeks ago
@dario2015
silly boy
You know nothing about it. Scotland is free.
Argentinian Colonial muppet
SimonFay1975 3 weeks ago
Saor Alba from Croatia!!!
Paintballerfromhell1 3 weeks ago
@Paintballerfromhell1
Free England!!
SimonFay1975 3 weeks ago
Yes to a free Scotland! Love from Sweden! :D
Airplanefreake 3 weeks ago