Hydrogen Fuel Cell with 5 plates.

[onthecuttingedge2005]

this concept would work really nice if you were making the gas next to your garage and then pump it into your car safely. making the gas off a battery in a car while driving isn't very efficient.

very nice though, I would use at least a hundred or so stainless steel fine screens in parallel and use my house hold current to generate my hydrogen for my own station.

[shambles9]

Hello,

I just wanted to mention that this device is not a hydrogen fuel cell, it is a water electrolytic cell which is quite different.

A hydrogen fuel cell uses up hydrogen to produce electricity.

[hyde20082142]

can you tel me how you put the 5 plates together? please?

[ska8r411]

u need distilled water buddy

[mixcatcom]

Thanks,

Yes I use it now. This was quite some time ago..

-Pete

[TorqueDragon17]

Very good. How about putting nuetral plates inbetween each of the pos & neg plates ? I've found it lowers the amp draw and increases output by 20%. Also going with distilled water (a none conductive clean slate to start with) and then adding in about 1/4 to 1/2 teaspn of sodium hydroxide as an ionizer (better than baking soda), if you use more than that: she will boil over in the long run. PLEASE LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU THINK. Paul

[RupertsCrystals]

Yep. Sodium Hydroxide. That's the magic ingredient.

BTW you said 1/4 to 1/2 teaspoon, but into what volume of water? It looks like he's got about 5 litres there but it's hard to tell.

[pathtoyhwh]

And a dream is born...I really enjoy your videos. You have made great progress!! Keep it up Pete

[tibor29]

Hey how did you attach the plates together? Did you use a screw? How come your plates are not shorting?

[NamelessFTW]

this is the opposite of a fuel cell... your making hydrogen gas using electricty, you aren't using hydrogen and oxygen to produce electricity

[TheFounderUtopia]

That's what I thought... isn't this basically just electrolysis?

I thought Hydrogen fuel cells use Hydrogen to create electricity.

[jimmyjamescanada]

i agree with you

its definitely not a fuel cell

by the way have you seen any videos on how to make a home made fuel cell. its something i would like to try but havent found

[teambasecorp]

Don't breath the clorine gas that the sea salt is helping produce. It is very toxic.

[mechanized331]

Come on guys, you all should now by now that the term "fuel cell" is a generic term for hydrogen generator even if it isn't one. Everyone on these posts for this subject are so quick to flash their superiority complex. gheesh

[marsCubed]

Good point mechanized331, but you also have to consider all the fake vids and purposeful ambiguity. It makes a lot of people fed up with the gibberish and diversion from what is becoming an ever more explored subject that peopel really want to know about and use. It should be taken seriously, technical language is revealing, it's in the detail where we might discover something new.

[mechanized331]

Oh I hear you and agree. :)

[alcoholic007]

This is Electrolysis, NOT a Fuel Cell.

Please change the title.

Thanks.

[eisasss]

you are absoluttly correct. Maybe you know how to make the real fuel cell? I am very deep interested in that stuff :)

[RagingCaveman]

I don't use any electrolyte. Co2 is totally inert, doesn't burn. I get 80% pure hydrogen from one of my systems.

[RagingCaveman]

After a while of running that, try lighting the water on fire. You should be ending up with Sodium Hydroxy and some sort of Hydrocarbon.... it might just burn. Collect the gas your making and see how much CO2 you're making and definitely don't drink the water nor should you feed it to your marigold's. If the water burns, test the byproduct or CO2.

[RagingCaveman]

Meatball, you have an eletro-plating system, not a hydrogen cell. Electroplating inherently makes hydrogen....meatball....wake up. In a few weeks you will have a bunch of fat positive plates and NO negative plates....then what? Eh?

[johncartelli]

I am building a unit with 304 stainless plates.I have read that for optimum generation a gap of .048"-.063" is required. I plan on selling the plates already to assemble and fit in a Qt canning jar.(cutting stainless is a bitch)then i found an article saying that using stainless produces hexavalent chromium in the electrolyte which causes cancer and is considered extremely deadly to internal organs! have you investigated this seriuos possibility?

[hydrozoid]

Everyone is right as you know its a hydrogen generator,A few things that might help you,First + plates make hydrogen -plates make oxy.Drill holes into the +plates for more hydrogen.Use straps instead of wires for connectors.Finally use sandpaper and rough the surface of each plate.Then soak plates overnite in electrolite solution,then put it all together and watch the difference,btw lye works alot better than salt.The unit you have doesn't make very much hydrogen at all.Output could be better!

[turbotorana]

this is not a fuel cell, this is a generator.

[magonirico]

Fuel cells utilize platinum as a catalyzer, the protons (hydrogen ions, H+) is carried by a special polymer.

[jahnkeanater]

this is not a fuel cell this is like a Joe cell a fuel cell turns hydrogen into electricity by bonding it to oxygen and catching the electrons during the process you could modify it to make hydrogen for a fuel cell

[naazrael]

how many amps does your contraption draw?

[nadeem5476]

please shed some light on catch back fire switch (how to make it) or is it available from market ? i want safety first thn to use this system in my car.

[Tomei1]

Use Stan's Invention On Your Own Car!

Just Replace the dot with .

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This works I use it on BOTH my cars and i'm not paying a dime for gas. 100% LEGAL too!

[nadeem5476]

i m still confussed , please guide me , will we use this charged water as fuel OR will collect the emitted hydrogen in a tank and thn will use that GAS as fuel in car etc ?

[billroberds]

you will put the hydro that comes off this in another container called a bubbler toward the bottom (it being filled with water) so the true gas comes bubbling up to the top of the bubbler,collect it and run it in to your carb or throttle body it will mix with your reg fuel lean your car out to gain mpg. So far ive only produced hydrogen from the cell to the bubbler. which be real carful not to play with it because it is very explosive.. Hope this helps..

[anymagicmushroom]

In your video, you call this a hydrogen fuel cell. This is a five plate, single cell, electrolysis unit. A hydrogen fuel cell uses platinum (Permeable to protons and not electrons) to recombine hydrogen and oxygen to create an electric current. It is, in fact, the opposite of what you are doing here. By the way, I have found that it is very hard to get any increased mpg or horsepower when supplementing less than 1.5 liters per minute. I don't think you are quite there yet, but keep trying.

[aaronisdumbusa]

how can i bottle hho.

[denver395]

In addition, there should be no wires or soldering, or twist connectors inside the fuel cell. This on-board production usually uses no storage tank. Check many You-Tube--entries. You will see better and better designs as you search.

[PDXLAD]

Don't use salts or saline or SEASALT, you will create hazardous fumes in the sodium choride gas range. Only use Baking soda, or plain water.

[FordGuy100]

You can make a lot of hydrogen gas from water. 1 liter = 1000ml correct? Anyways water has a weight of 1 gram per ml of water. So there would be 1000grams of water. The molar mass of water is 18grams per mol. 1 mol of any sort of gas equals 22.4 liters of gas. So with some easy math 1 liter of water equals 138 liters of hydrogen gas (hydrogen in H2O takes up 2/18 of the weight of it). So if your running 1 liter per minute of hydrogen, 1 liter of water will last over 2 hours.

[wh333t]

I read somewhere 1L of water = 1600 cubic liters of HHO gas. I think it was while I was searching up browns gas.

[trauts01]

how many amps does this unit draw? Are you in anyway restricting the amp flow and stepping up the voltage? Just curious cuz someone mentioned a heat issue.

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[zane963]

How much to make and install one in my vehicle? I'll pay. Let me know. You could make big bucks doing this.

[mixcatcom]

Thanks Zane963, I would love to install this for you. Im selling a cell thats way better then this old one you see in the video.

Its on ebay Item number: 150255485073

My user name is Linkitout

If your the winning bidder I will help install this unit for you. Just buy me a beer. ;o)

Thanks.

-Pete

[rantubescoob]

Have you tried just stainless as the anode/cathode or have you tried other metals, or a combination of metals?

[Vitalyo]

well initially it would produce hydrogen but then it heats up and all u got is a water heater

[mixcatcom]

Please check out my other videos.

I am up to 12 plate cells that run great in the car.

It heats the water but keep producing great. Please creates quite a nice MPG boost.

-Pete

[1980PintoMan]

Separating hydrogen and oxygen from water is nothing new, getting more energy from it than you put into it is the problem, which no video I've seen so far even addresses.

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Search for ebay item "Powertube II Hydrogen Fuel Cell". This guy is doing it.

[gregscottmaher]

My son and I did this type of thing for his 6th grade Science project. We live near the west coast... so I went to the ocean and got a gallon of sea water. holly crap! It produced sooo much gas it was scary... it oxidized (rusted)the plates and started to smoke the wires. What a difference over tap water. By the way this is not a Fuel Cell its an electrolizer. the opposite of a Fuel Cell nice vid nontheless.!!

[SlavaVB]

where did you get your plates from? is that 304/316/317 stainless?

[planetdarwin]

Question: Does this mean fuel cells work both ways? You call this a fuel cell but it's obviously producing hydrogen from electricity, rather than electricity from hydrogen. If you took it out of the water and placed it in a chamber of hydrogen, would it produce electricity?

[pipinki]

good one! but electrolysis is cool too...it's definitely a great way to make fuel FOR a fuel cell

[icehazard1]

what does the sea salt do? or is for

[LinuxUser269]

salt allow the current to pass through the water easer

[eddiequest2]

salt will corrode the steel. try using potassium hydroxide. the plates will last longer, and the KOH will not need replacing.

kudos for the work.

[Vaduh]

not fuel cell-- electrolysis ;)

[jylp4u]

mine does that with no salt and it's only 4 plates, did you use 316 stainless or 304?

[tonyschamber]

I used a wide mouth kerr glass jar and stainless steel "locking wire" from Harbor Freight Tools, wrapped around a plexiglass "tower" inside the jar. All my stuff was purchased at walmart, Orchard Supply and Hardware, Harbor Freight, and Autozone. I used 1 T pure baking soda instead of salt. Check valves and bubbler stones are found at walmart in pet/fish dept. I ported/Teed the HHO into the PVC hose which sucked it into the base of carb., but will add a brass barb port to air intake as well.

[tonyschamber]

I installed one HHO generator in my Pontiac Grand Am yesterday and took it for a spin... it works! There was an immediate power gain and smoothing. Took it out on the freeway and noticed some pinging at first, but it's smoothing out more and more. Will add another jar to double HHO output and see what happens. Don't have hard MPG measurements yet.

[gtj126]

$ 100,000 for 600,000 BTUh would be in WINTER ALONE in N Ohio, NY etc

175 kwh CONTINUOUSLY on 20-25 degree days

NET NET NET usable 175 KWH in Heating Energy

and

Pre-Cools fresh air entering a facility

which ups thw kw NET comparrison significantly vs r410 a and other refrigerant cooling

[fireicer]

salt conducts electricity better than water that is why you see more bubbles.

[pat1huey]

This should help increase fuel economy but Ive heard you have to do something about the mass air flow sensor. Anybody know...

[H0D0NKAIN]

Out of curiosity... Hydrogen is released but where does the Oxygen molecules go? I'm trying to figure how electricity or (free electrons) do the whole process. Cool video.

[fireicer]

the oxygen comes off at the positive anode and the hydrogen at the negative you cant see the splitting in this vid. note don't use salt at all as its not oxygen emitted on the anode its chlorine salt is sodium chloride and it reacts with the oxygen making chlorine which is emitted use a higher voltage see if that works instead maybe wire a ignition coil and feed it with your PWM to trigger fast bursts of very high voltage not current just a idea

[filipinofighter1]

just search on youtube filipino inventor & look for Daniel Dingels. He is the first guy invented the water car fuel cell. He invented his product more than 30 years ago. Even a german & japan car manufacturers went to the philippines to buy his invention.

[Dilekz]

Dude.. i once where interested in that stuff..

But it's all NOT true!!

I hope one day you will see that true..

[humantestdummy]

what do you mean its not true are you retarted?

[roshidude]

Nice implementation. It doesn't seem that it took that much HHO, to get the gains that you report.

What about your ECU management?

/ChuckD....

[btwogood]

simply remove the gas fuel line and replace with hydrogen cell fuel line..It is sent into the carb/fuel injection burned within the bore(just like gas would) pushing the piston down...and it does work! (more efficent even) no water found in oil..

[2drunksracing]

Did you do it? Does it start on hydro? Any cylinder rust issues? Has it sat for a long period of time b-4 trying to operate again? Thanks Mark

[rydn2l0w]

I dont think water is actually going into your engine just oxygen and hydrogen

[LukeSkyscraper]

Bah you said Hydrogen Fuel Cell on your vid title. So I thought I was going to see a PEM Fuel Cell generating electricity from hydrogen. What you have there is a Water electrolosys cell producing hyrdogen.

[izzonu]

How do you know how much hydro going into the intak? and if you gas and hydro going in wouldnt that flood the car.?

[btwogood]

theres a theory that hydrogen leaves a water residue when burned. This in turn slips past the pistons causing corrosion. To run hydrogen through a common car would involve having everything stainless steel..

[WarmothGuitarist]

actually... hydrogen turns to water in the exhaust...once it combines with the oxygen after the combustion process. People have been doing this for decades, and I haven't heard of any major issues

[shadowmastere]

actually, combustion is the process of elements reacting with oxygen. Take methane for example: it's got carbon and hydrogen atoms. They combust, and the hydrogen+oxygen=H2O. Carbon+oxygen=CO2 It makes water vapor when it combusts.

[UC15]

That's NOT a fuel cell. That's just a simple electrolytic cell. We did this in grade school science class. Michael Faraday did it about a hundred years ago.

This REQUIRES power to work. It is not a source of power.

[mixcatcom]

You are right. And this is a very old version of the HHO project im working on. Please check the new videos for updates.

-Pete

[rydn2l0w]

May not be a source of power but it is definitely a possible alternative to gasoline. If not completely, at least it'll save a lot.

[reivaj077]

So these plates are the guts of what you are running in your car?

That is what you are getting the improvement in gas with, that is wild.

A toast to you!!

I too have done some Breaking of the Waters of convention. I have not applied the device to anything, as you already have, but I have great hopes for The Stormmaker. Like you, my intent is to boost gas mileage considerably,

[mixcatcom]

the new one I have up is a 10 plate cell that is stainless and a much better grade of steal. Sooooo much more action on the new one..

This was my first.

-Pete

[imenhoteb]

hyedenny!!!??look att my water whelder..:)

i can burn tungsten,stel !!! imenhoteb hydrogen torh from sweden.

[hyedenny]

FUEL CELL??? All I saw was a simple grade-school type electrolysis setup. You are not only producing hydrogen, but oxygen and chlorine as well.

A fuel cell is supposed to MAKE electricity, not consume it!

Stupid, misleading, and inaccurate.

[acnex]

You sir spoke on behalf of so many engineers, including myself. God bliss you.

[ThePowerTube]

Check out "Make your own fuel cell" on youtube.

[leftofleft]

Great stuff! thank you

[mixcatcom]

Check out all my other videos!!! I got this in a tube now and pushing some serious hydrogen! Its car ready~!

I will have my car install on there and the before and after so make sure to check out all my videos..

-Pete

[sm0ky40]

12 amps is alot of pull for a alternator, MrCarbJB here on youtube may have your power solutions. He has been working with HHO for 30 yrs and uses it daily in his autos. check him out, and best wishes :)

[mixcatcom]

I sure will thanks for the tip.. Im was going to put in a relay on the ign. key and hook to the battery on an 20 amp fuse.. I think it should run fine... I will sure update everyone how it goes.. Im pretty excited to test this.. ;o)

-Pete

[inegma29]

12amps might be a pull on the alternator but not much. Your headlights put together draw around 60 amps when turned on, actually alot of things on the car when activated are in a 10-30 amp range. 12amps seems little when compared to other things on the car. Just some input, hopefully sounding friendly ;)

[alex681219]

ok..will see your video post soon

[alex681219]

please mesure the h2 produced in liters, try produce h2 with aluminum soda cans and lye. It produces a quemical reaction and you dont need electric energy. 1 gram produces 10 liters and kilogram cost $2 dolars is about 2.700 galons!

[mixcatcom]

Hello Alex,

I did the Foil and Lye and it made quite a reaction.. the issue I have with it is; once the aluminum is used up than the hydrogen production stops.. With this plate setup all we have to do is add water as neede. Im going to put this in my car. I will make video of it and post it here for everyone to see.

Thanks!

-Pete

[magana559]

your not making enough fule to make your car idle let alone drive it with this setup dont get your hopes up:(

[mixcatcom]

Check out my other videos.. I got this working GREAT! more than 7 MPG boost.

-Pete

[magana559]

thats cool i have seen your other vids and you have made a hydrogen injection while i thought you were planing on running your car on this. you should go to united nuclear dot com and check out the reaserch and development.

[mixcatcom]

I tried Pure Hobby Lye but the salt dont cause as much rust. Plus seems to work better.. I like salt because its natural and you dont have to worry so much about using it.

-Pete

[mhafter]

Well... salt has it's downsides as I learned. Salt = NaCl. When you electrolisize water with salt, the Na and Cl separate, and the Cl precipitates into a gas which is lethal in certain concentrations.

[mixcatcom]

This is just a couple sprinkles of sea salt.. Hardly any but it made the difference in the hydrogen production.

-Pete

[UC15]

... and VERY corrosive in almost any concentration. But it doesn't "precipitate" it evolves into Cl2. Precipitation refers to solids coming out of solution.

[mhafter]

Very clever construction! By the way, how much voltage and current are you applying? That was a pretty fast reaction. Sad that you unplugged it! :) PS. thanks for posting this as a response to my video. I am still trying to figure out how to accept it.

-MH

[mixcatcom]

Thanks for the question... Its 12 Volts and 11-12 Amps

-Pete