Mimimimi! And to think I wanted to be taller than him... xD
Prost... "boring"? I doubt so. I like him because he epic technician :3. I cannot dislike him, and, why? He was also cool. Little, but smart, cerebral :3. I cannot understand why some people rates lower ;___;...
Yeah. Because my respect for the ultimate team (Senna and Prost) is because I like all those two opposite kind of driving.
41 fastest laps and 51 wins speak for themselves. He almost got 8 championship titles. He competed against Mansell, Senna, Rosberg, Hill, Lauda and Alesi... on the same car... AND WON. Prost = The best F1 driver of the modern F1 era.
On Februry 24th, Professor's Birthday!!! 55 y.o. !!!!!. And still showing an awesome performance racing on ice in Andros Championship, still kicking asses (and getting his ass kicked as well) against some 20 or 30 something y.o. guys...... UTMOST RESPECT to this little frenchman today day: Happy Birthday Alain!!!. How I miss his era: Ayrton, Nigel, Keke, Nelson, Niki, René, Jones, Lole, Elio, Michele, even Damon and Shuey still novice. A 180% contrast to nowadays shameful, disgraceful F1....
Prost was a driver which actually didn't care about get pole, he started from somewhere in the grid, behid the first row, then he slowly gains positions and by the end of the race you realize he's fighting for the first positions and already has the fastest lap of the race. His setups usually focused on the race instead of pole, a big difference with Senna. Prost began to go faster and faster, but saving the car, while Senna was consistently fast over the race, he usually won't do a fastest lap.
Very good explanation about Prost; you see his approach was different from the one by our idol Ayrton, but nontheless a valid approach: fast if needed, or if feeling comfortable.... The results are clear, with his approach, He had the same (and/or better) rates than Ayrton.... Commands respect, for sure....
That's why some people considered him as "Boring"(which I don't agree), because Prost was stealthy, silent, but as you said, fast when needed. Senna was more agresive in his driving style, and that's what people loves in a driver, no fear to overtaking and crashing, everything or nothing. Remember the Mexican GP 1990(a track that looks like hated Senna), with Prost starting from 13th, finishing 1st, while Senna suffered tyre puncture.
Happy birthday professor, always remembered, one of the very best. Lucianno buddy, there's a tuber out there, a good friend who thinks like us, an american friend called craigg1981, love this guy. You can see him on my Gilles Villeneuve tribute, a good man, he's welcomed here like the rest of our friends, you wrote the list earlier!!!!
I never saw such an "eclastic" or "adaptative" driver, not even Senna or Schumacher. Maybe Fangio or Stewart were that way somehow.... When you analise some Prost's races from 1980 to 1993, or some seasons (specially 83, 84, 85, 86, 88, 89, 90, 93), his different approach on them is totally evident for a careful or a well educated eye... He won and lost, He was brilliant and sucked, OK? But his flexible racing is undeniable!. What's happening nowadays? All drivers seem to race the same way! LOL
In regard to Mansell-Senna, Nigel speed allowed him to match Senna under some circumstances. I saw many races in which Mansell was as fast as Senna.... That's why Nigel had some chances on him as well.... If Prost beat Senna, it was due to a mix of good speed, cleverness, experience and technitians skills. Mansell hadn't such a complete package, but managed to beat both Senna and Prost sometimes, with his best weapon: speed and big balls!!!.
I agree pal. Mansell was not very good technically, but had alot of speed and had more balls that both Senna and Prost. In a way, he reminds me of Montoya in that respect. Montoya had huge balls, if only his mouth was smaller...
I agree about Mansell. While Steve Nichols labels Ayrton as the "king of calculated risks" when overtaking, or Barnard and Brown (from Williams) talked about Alain in regard to his own manners for calculating risks (the same as Senna), Mansell seemed not to calculate that much: remember his overtakings on Berger (Estoril 89, Berger and 2 backmakers), Berger (Mexico 90), Piquet (not Silvertone but Brands Hatch, pressing boost overtaking Nelson and 3 backmakers), on Prost (France 91), etc.?
I guess that being so fast, and not being so speculative as Senna (we'd not better compare Nigel to Alain or Nelson in terms of being speculative, because the comparisson is "worse" for him....) was what allowed him to win against them (and loosing........). He won them in the most incredible ways, and lost as the worst noob sucker as well.. Is part of the game of being that way: He went for 100% of the results or 0%. He got both!
I agree. With Senna I used to enjoy a surely damn fast run sliding a car.... With Prost I enjoyed his perfectionism behind a wheel (Suzuka 89 camera on board is simply fantastic. But with Mansell, what happened to me was that I never knew if He would have a go in one of his often incredible "impossible" charges, or He was going to do some of his demential moves (and still succed), as the one on Berger in Mexico 90 (suicidal move!). Surely enjoying!!!
The connection between Mansell approach, Senna, Piquet, Lauda, Rosberg, Andretti, Jones, Hill, Hakkinen, Schumacher, etc., and the topic of this nice pictorial about The Professor? Very simple: it ALWAYS amazed me the way Prost managed to beat ALL of them, so differently sometimes: by outdrove them, by being "slower" (?), by being the fastest, by being oportunist, by careing about his car, fuel and tyres, by good luck, or by pure better management of technical issues. That's why He was GREAT!.
Anyway, being 648/1000 slower than the fastest driver in F1 ever (or 434/1000, the difference they had in 1988, that could be a more realistic measure than the 859/1000 difference they had in 1989), is enough for me, to finish with that frequent noob appreciation that labels Prost as a "slow driver". A stupid myth. How the hell a "slow" one can be 648/1000 slower than the best ever on same machine? Or Win 51 times, or get 33 Poles, or set 41 Fastest Laps? I have no doubt: He was really quick!.
Best ever? No. Fastest ever? Maybe. But remember Prost was 33 and 34 in 1988 and 1989, married, 1 kid, another on the way by 89, twice champion, little to prove. Senna - 28 and 29, single, hungry and everything to prove. We didn't properly see Senna challenged by a younger hungrier driver like we did Prost. We only really had Brazil 1994 and some battles in 1993 with Schumacher. Pity.
OK, forget about the Best Ever. Just name Senna the Fastest Ever. Being 648/1000 than the Fastest Ever, is being ultra-fast!!!. That's what I meant. Now, sometimes I'm inclined to believe Mansell was, when fully commited, a little bit faster than Alain but a little bit slower than Senna, is that possible? Prost was the more gifted of the two, no doubt for me, but while Nigel couldn't compete with Prost in terms of technique or cleverness, He could beat him sometimes by using pure speed.
In no way could you call Prost slow. As you said Luciano, 41 fastest laps (a record when he retired) and 33 poles (mostly achieved with a race set up as opposed to quali set up) prove he was no turtle. He was just so smooth he made it look slow, and he always tried to win at the slowest possible pace. A clever trick I have not seen done since.
When you talk about Prost's clever trick (winning at slowest possible pace) you're more than correct. He learnt that from Fangio and Lauda. Then Senna himself learnt that...... this time, from Prost. I agree with Alain when He says that by the end of his career "Ayrton was driving more like me". Was Ayrton getting "too old"? If "too old" means "slow", defenitvely NO!. If "too old" means cool-minded, tricky, defenitvely YES! The same happened when comparing Prost-Lauda. The young learns from old!
An interesting thing: the average difference between Senna and Prost in 1988 (qualys) was 434/1000. In 1989 the difference was 859/1000. The double!!!. There are 2 possibilities: Prost realized He couldn't compete with Senna on one single lap, so He lowered his commitment on 1989 qualys just to not take unneceary risks (after all He couldn't beat him on raw speed) or Prost was right when He whined that McLaren was giving him worse machinery. Maybe a mix of both things?
I was looking for the real gaps on qualys in 1988 and 1989, between magic and The Professor. The difference is 20s.710/1000, that is to say, Senna was faster than Prost at about an average of 648/1000 per race. If we agree (at least I firmly believe He was) Ayrton was the fastest driver of his era (and probably of all times), the fact that Prost was 648/1000 "slower" than him per race, tells me Alain was extremely quick!!!.
If you read some of the notes and textual quotes by Alain posted here by me, you'll soon realise we aren't facing a common driver or a common man; He's much more than that. He was a driver that, by mean of his unique talent, focuses on hard working for getting the car doing what He wants the car does for him. So He always looked "easy". But if you understand his way, it was TOTALLY FAR from being that "easy": it was a labour of a craftman gifted driver, no way. It's like that CLEARLY!!!
Prost "way" 1: From the beginning of my racing career in Formula Renault everyone had the same equipment. You can't think you'll do it by being quicker always because it's impossible. I tried another way. From the 1st year I test very often and I'd change everything on the car all the time; just to understand what was happening on the car. I worked very hard and I played a lot with weight, to prepare the car maybe 10kg lighter than the limit so as to put the rest of the ballast where I wanted...
Prost "way" 2: "It is very important to have confidence as well as to build up experience. I always wanted to feel that I had enough knowledge and experience of the car that I could change its set-up on the grid and still win the race. That is an important part of my success. Another big part of my success is that I hated not to finish a race. I would prefer to finish sixth rather than lead and then crash or retire. I have always wanted to finish to get the experience."
In 1976 Prost had his 1st year at "school" and look at the impressive results:
He won 12/13 races!
He got 11/13 Fastest Laps!
He started 13/13 from Front Row (6 of them Poles)! Unbeliebable!!!!. His only retirement was due to fuel, IN THE LAST RACE, with a few laps to go, while He was leading. If not for that, He would have won 100% races!!!. How could have done it? Simply: working hard and superb technicall apttitudes...
TOUCH of CLASS: Brazil 87, 2 seconds behind Mansell. From the beginning I worked without caring about qualifying. We worked on the best race set-up we could possibly find. Everybody was going for high-downforce, I went in the opposite direction and ran very little downforce. So I would have to force myself to go slowly through the corners, and we planned to stop only once. Everybody went for 2 and 3 stops. I remember I could have gone quicker but I had to go slow. I won the race by 30 seconds!
JENKS: WHEN YOU TEST A CAR IN GOOD CONDITIONS AND YOU'RE GETTING NEAR TO THE LIMIT IN A CORNER, WHAT IS BEING FED INTO YOU FROM THE CAR?
Prost: When I test I never go right to the limit. Only because when you are below the limit you can go at the same speed all day, and that's the only way you can be absolutely sure about what you are testing.
JENKS: I WATCHED MOST OF YOUR RACES, YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN FIFTH OR SIXTH AT THE START AND I COULD SEE IN THOSE OPENING LAPS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO WIN. I SAW WHO WAS FIFTH AND I WOULD THINK "HE KNOWS HOW TO GET PAST THIS MAN", AND SO ON UP TO FIRST PLACE. WHAT WERE YOU SEEING? Prost: You're absolutely right. I always work from the beginning of the weekend, so I know at the beginning of the race, whether I will win the race or not. JENKS: YOU CAN READ EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU? Prost: Yes, I can.
I still got touched by this little frenchman career and talent... Every time I see him nowaday driving on ice (and kicking asses) makes me feel I wasn't wrong when I decided to be a fan of him, from his early days at aschool from current Andros races, He ruled, He rules, and He will keep on ruling up to GOD says himn: OVER ALAIN, STOP.... Respect, to this SUPREME driver... MERCI!!!! GREAT JOB JEEPY!!!. I'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE....AYRTON, HEHEHEHE.....
Mimimimi! And to think I wanted to be taller than him... xD
Prost... "boring"? I doubt so. I like him because he epic technician :3. I cannot dislike him, and, why? He was also cool. Little, but smart, cerebral :3. I cannot understand why some people rates lower ;___;...
Yeah. Because my respect for the ultimate team (Senna and Prost) is because I like all those two opposite kind of driving.
Good tribute! :3 \o/
Canalplop1 1 year ago
41 fastest laps and 51 wins speak for themselves. He almost got 8 championship titles. He competed against Mansell, Senna, Rosberg, Hill, Lauda and Alesi... on the same car... AND WON. Prost = The best F1 driver of the modern F1 era.
longde 1 year ago 3
On Februry 24th, Professor's Birthday!!! 55 y.o. !!!!!. And still showing an awesome performance racing on ice in Andros Championship, still kicking asses (and getting his ass kicked as well) against some 20 or 30 something y.o. guys...... UTMOST RESPECT to this little frenchman today day: Happy Birthday Alain!!!. How I miss his era: Ayrton, Nigel, Keke, Nelson, Niki, René, Jones, Lole, Elio, Michele, even Damon and Shuey still novice. A 180% contrast to nowadays shameful, disgraceful F1....
lucianoestivill 2 years ago
Prost was a driver which actually didn't care about get pole, he started from somewhere in the grid, behid the first row, then he slowly gains positions and by the end of the race you realize he's fighting for the first positions and already has the fastest lap of the race. His setups usually focused on the race instead of pole, a big difference with Senna. Prost began to go faster and faster, but saving the car, while Senna was consistently fast over the race, he usually won't do a fastest lap.
themagicayrtonsenna 2 years ago 8
Very good explanation about Prost; you see his approach was different from the one by our idol Ayrton, but nontheless a valid approach: fast if needed, or if feeling comfortable.... The results are clear, with his approach, He had the same (and/or better) rates than Ayrton.... Commands respect, for sure....
lucianoestivill 2 years ago
That's why some people considered him as "Boring"(which I don't agree), because Prost was stealthy, silent, but as you said, fast when needed. Senna was more agresive in his driving style, and that's what people loves in a driver, no fear to overtaking and crashing, everything or nothing. Remember the Mexican GP 1990(a track that looks like hated Senna), with Prost starting from 13th, finishing 1st, while Senna suffered tyre puncture.
themagicayrtonsenna 2 years ago 9
Prost was a good driver, but too computerised and boring to watch
nitroboost8765 3 years ago
That's no reason to rate him lower than the flamboyant drivers, though...
Underscrogman 3 years ago 15
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lucianoestivill 3 years ago
On Februry 24th, Professor's Birthday!!! Happy Birthday Alain!!! 54y.o. little man!!! ;-)
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
Happy birthday professor, always remembered, one of the very best. Lucianno buddy, there's a tuber out there, a good friend who thinks like us, an american friend called craigg1981, love this guy. You can see him on my Gilles Villeneuve tribute, a good man, he's welcomed here like the rest of our friends, you wrote the list earlier!!!!
lazerpod66 3 years ago
I wish the copyright people didnt screw up videos
nitroboost8765 3 years ago
I never saw such an "eclastic" or "adaptative" driver, not even Senna or Schumacher. Maybe Fangio or Stewart were that way somehow.... When you analise some Prost's races from 1980 to 1993, or some seasons (specially 83, 84, 85, 86, 88, 89, 90, 93), his different approach on them is totally evident for a careful or a well educated eye... He won and lost, He was brilliant and sucked, OK? But his flexible racing is undeniable!. What's happening nowadays? All drivers seem to race the same way! LOL
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
In regard to Mansell-Senna, Nigel speed allowed him to match Senna under some circumstances. I saw many races in which Mansell was as fast as Senna.... That's why Nigel had some chances on him as well.... If Prost beat Senna, it was due to a mix of good speed, cleverness, experience and technitians skills. Mansell hadn't such a complete package, but managed to beat both Senna and Prost sometimes, with his best weapon: speed and big balls!!!.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
I agree pal. Mansell was not very good technically, but had alot of speed and had more balls that both Senna and Prost. In a way, he reminds me of Montoya in that respect. Montoya had huge balls, if only his mouth was smaller...
lazerpod66 3 years ago
I agree about Mansell. While Steve Nichols labels Ayrton as the "king of calculated risks" when overtaking, or Barnard and Brown (from Williams) talked about Alain in regard to his own manners for calculating risks (the same as Senna), Mansell seemed not to calculate that much: remember his overtakings on Berger (Estoril 89, Berger and 2 backmakers), Berger (Mexico 90), Piquet (not Silvertone but Brands Hatch, pressing boost overtaking Nelson and 3 backmakers), on Prost (France 91), etc.?
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
I guess that being so fast, and not being so speculative as Senna (we'd not better compare Nigel to Alain or Nelson in terms of being speculative, because the comparisson is "worse" for him....) was what allowed him to win against them (and loosing........). He won them in the most incredible ways, and lost as the worst noob sucker as well.. Is part of the game of being that way: He went for 100% of the results or 0%. He got both!
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
ButMansell was much better to watch than Ayrton or Alain. He was a pure animal of speed.
lazerpod66 3 years ago
I agree. With Senna I used to enjoy a surely damn fast run sliding a car.... With Prost I enjoyed his perfectionism behind a wheel (Suzuka 89 camera on board is simply fantastic. But with Mansell, what happened to me was that I never knew if He would have a go in one of his often incredible "impossible" charges, or He was going to do some of his demential moves (and still succed), as the one on Berger in Mexico 90 (suicidal move!). Surely enjoying!!!
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
The connection between Mansell approach, Senna, Piquet, Lauda, Rosberg, Andretti, Jones, Hill, Hakkinen, Schumacher, etc., and the topic of this nice pictorial about The Professor? Very simple: it ALWAYS amazed me the way Prost managed to beat ALL of them, so differently sometimes: by outdrove them, by being "slower" (?), by being the fastest, by being oportunist, by careing about his car, fuel and tyres, by good luck, or by pure better management of technical issues. That's why He was GREAT!.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
Anyway, being 648/1000 slower than the fastest driver in F1 ever (or 434/1000, the difference they had in 1988, that could be a more realistic measure than the 859/1000 difference they had in 1989), is enough for me, to finish with that frequent noob appreciation that labels Prost as a "slow driver". A stupid myth. How the hell a "slow" one can be 648/1000 slower than the best ever on same machine? Or Win 51 times, or get 33 Poles, or set 41 Fastest Laps? I have no doubt: He was really quick!.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
Best ever? No. Fastest ever? Maybe. But remember Prost was 33 and 34 in 1988 and 1989, married, 1 kid, another on the way by 89, twice champion, little to prove. Senna - 28 and 29, single, hungry and everything to prove. We didn't properly see Senna challenged by a younger hungrier driver like we did Prost. We only really had Brazil 1994 and some battles in 1993 with Schumacher. Pity.
beeDUB75 3 years ago 5
OK, forget about the Best Ever. Just name Senna the Fastest Ever. Being 648/1000 than the Fastest Ever, is being ultra-fast!!!. That's what I meant. Now, sometimes I'm inclined to believe Mansell was, when fully commited, a little bit faster than Alain but a little bit slower than Senna, is that possible? Prost was the more gifted of the two, no doubt for me, but while Nigel couldn't compete with Prost in terms of technique or cleverness, He could beat him sometimes by using pure speed.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
In no way could you call Prost slow. As you said Luciano, 41 fastest laps (a record when he retired) and 33 poles (mostly achieved with a race set up as opposed to quali set up) prove he was no turtle. He was just so smooth he made it look slow, and he always tried to win at the slowest possible pace. A clever trick I have not seen done since.
beeDUB75 3 years ago 5
When you talk about Prost's clever trick (winning at slowest possible pace) you're more than correct. He learnt that from Fangio and Lauda. Then Senna himself learnt that...... this time, from Prost. I agree with Alain when He says that by the end of his career "Ayrton was driving more like me". Was Ayrton getting "too old"? If "too old" means "slow", defenitvely NO!. If "too old" means cool-minded, tricky, defenitvely YES! The same happened when comparing Prost-Lauda. The young learns from old!
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
The main thing with Prost is he looked slow because he was so smooth, just floating from one kerb to another, but he was plenty fast, no worry.
lazerpod66 3 years ago
An interesting thing: the average difference between Senna and Prost in 1988 (qualys) was 434/1000. In 1989 the difference was 859/1000. The double!!!. There are 2 possibilities: Prost realized He couldn't compete with Senna on one single lap, so He lowered his commitment on 1989 qualys just to not take unneceary risks (after all He couldn't beat him on raw speed) or Prost was right when He whined that McLaren was giving him worse machinery. Maybe a mix of both things?
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
I was looking for the real gaps on qualys in 1988 and 1989, between magic and The Professor. The difference is 20s.710/1000, that is to say, Senna was faster than Prost at about an average of 648/1000 per race. If we agree (at least I firmly believe He was) Ayrton was the fastest driver of his era (and probably of all times), the fact that Prost was 648/1000 "slower" than him per race, tells me Alain was extremely quick!!!.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
Nice tribute. What is really needs to make it stand out though is some good backing music. Can't think of any songs that really suit Prost however.
Underscrogman 3 years ago
I agree, but you have to find the right music to go with it, and there's always someone who will complain about it.......
lazerpod66 3 years ago
some smooth jazz perhaps?
beeDUB75 3 years ago 2
If you read some of the notes and textual quotes by Alain posted here by me, you'll soon realise we aren't facing a common driver or a common man; He's much more than that. He was a driver that, by mean of his unique talent, focuses on hard working for getting the car doing what He wants the car does for him. So He always looked "easy". But if you understand his way, it was TOTALLY FAR from being that "easy": it was a labour of a craftman gifted driver, no way. It's like that CLEARLY!!!
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
Prost "way" 1: From the beginning of my racing career in Formula Renault everyone had the same equipment. You can't think you'll do it by being quicker always because it's impossible. I tried another way. From the 1st year I test very often and I'd change everything on the car all the time; just to understand what was happening on the car. I worked very hard and I played a lot with weight, to prepare the car maybe 10kg lighter than the limit so as to put the rest of the ballast where I wanted...
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
Prost "way" 2: "It is very important to have confidence as well as to build up experience. I always wanted to feel that I had enough knowledge and experience of the car that I could change its set-up on the grid and still win the race. That is an important part of my success. Another big part of my success is that I hated not to finish a race. I would prefer to finish sixth rather than lead and then crash or retire. I have always wanted to finish to get the experience."
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
What club Louisax??? Night Club??? Golf Club??? LOL... Explain, I'm curious!!!! LMAO....
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
In 1976 Prost had his 1st year at "school" and look at the impressive results:
He won 12/13 races!
He got 11/13 Fastest Laps!
He started 13/13 from Front Row (6 of them Poles)! Unbeliebable!!!!. His only retirement was due to fuel, IN THE LAST RACE, with a few laps to go, while He was leading. If not for that, He would have won 100% races!!!. How could have done it? Simply: working hard and superb technicall apttitudes...
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
TOUCH of CLASS: Brazil 87, 2 seconds behind Mansell. From the beginning I worked without caring about qualifying. We worked on the best race set-up we could possibly find. Everybody was going for high-downforce, I went in the opposite direction and ran very little downforce. So I would have to force myself to go slowly through the corners, and we planned to stop only once. Everybody went for 2 and 3 stops. I remember I could have gone quicker but I had to go slow. I won the race by 30 seconds!
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
More words of wisdom:
JENKS: WHEN YOU TEST A CAR IN GOOD CONDITIONS AND YOU'RE GETTING NEAR TO THE LIMIT IN A CORNER, WHAT IS BEING FED INTO YOU FROM THE CAR?
Prost: When I test I never go right to the limit. Only because when you are below the limit you can go at the same speed all day, and that's the only way you can be absolutely sure about what you are testing.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
You can like him or not Louisax, but He's there.... ;-)
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
I know girl, but just forget about his political manoevers and look at the man behind the wheel:)
lazerpod66 3 years ago
JENKS: I WATCHED MOST OF YOUR RACES, YOU MIGHT HAVE BEEN FIFTH OR SIXTH AT THE START AND I COULD SEE IN THOSE OPENING LAPS THAT YOU WERE GOING TO WIN. I SAW WHO WAS FIFTH AND I WOULD THINK "HE KNOWS HOW TO GET PAST THIS MAN", AND SO ON UP TO FIRST PLACE. WHAT WERE YOU SEEING? Prost: You're absolutely right. I always work from the beginning of the weekend, so I know at the beginning of the race, whether I will win the race or not. JENKS: YOU CAN READ EVERYTHING IN FRONT OF YOU? Prost: Yes, I can.
lucianoestivill 3 years ago
I still got touched by this little frenchman career and talent... Every time I see him nowaday driving on ice (and kicking asses) makes me feel I wasn't wrong when I decided to be a fan of him, from his early days at aschool from current Andros races, He ruled, He rules, and He will keep on ruling up to GOD says himn: OVER ALAIN, STOP.... Respect, to this SUPREME driver... MERCI!!!! GREAT JOB JEEPY!!!. I'LL WAIT FOR THE NEXT ONE....AYRTON, HEHEHEHE.....
lucianoestivill 3 years ago