Can't wait to get my CCW and license, maybe the criminals will start thinking twice about raping, murdering, robbing and assaulting. Or maybe they just won't get the chance to become repeat offenders. ; ) Goodnight.
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@whtisrcowards dude, I'm a Japanese American and I live in Fort Worth, Texas. I fully support this measure and am proud that somebody is finally taking a real stand against school shootings. Please keep your racist attitude out of the argument.
As a teacher, it is my sacred duty to protect my students from harm. "Gun-Free" zones do nothing but ensure the safety of psycho shooters while they are murdering kids.
Fuck concealed carry. That should require a easily obtained permit. But lets talk about open carry. Open is the way to go. If you have both then the criminals are really on the run. I say anywhere but where alcohol is served.
@DobermansRock I say even where alcohol is served but not if you plan on getting drunk. Also, I have to ask a real important ? here.
Is there a reason that we expect to be able to send a man to jail for 20 years and have him come out rehabillitated? I suggest that we only put violent criminals in jail, and only for terms less than a year. If a man commits a really violent act, like rape of a minor or murder we should just put them straight on death row. Would you want that man as ur neighbor
@dlstb Brother we are speaking the same language. No argument from me. I carry all the time and feel I am responsible for my actions. Simple plan that seems to work well.
As for prison. Man I have a ton of feelings there. Terms are too long, too many people in for non-violent crime, it makes a good person bad and a bad criminal even better. Death penalty should be very surgical so only the guilty are punished. Eye for an Eye..
@DobermansRock I agree, we should ALWAYS allow the individual the due process of law that is guaranteed by the Constitution and our individual conscience's before we take anyone's rights or property. That includes the right to life. I don't equate it to eye for an eye because the words after that are "vengence shall be mine, sayeth the Lord.", but we have the need to ensure our safety from physically violent people. In my mind, none of us should have to live with the fear of violence day to day
@dlstb Look up a nation of cowards. It details the crime an individual commits if he allows another to take his life without action. It boils down to suicide which is also a sin. So for a law abiding citizen to carry open or concealed. I have zero problem with it.
An armed society is a polite and friendly society. Good day and keep em in the ten ring.
i grew up very close to the area and it may be needed. i currently attend a public tech school in oklahoma. and looking at our security guards. i wish i could carry a fire arm at school
Remember, Columbine had a security guard, He was the first one targeted, and he ran away. I would love to hear the people who don't like this to tell me how they would protect the children. The vast majority of the deaths at Virginia-Tech occurred AFTER the police were on scene. They had metal detectors at the Capitol shooting in 1998, the shooter walked right up and killed the guard and walked right in. Why is refusal to allow this to happen again a bad thing???????
wait a minute, aren't you doing the same thing?? and before you go calling me a "liberal"...I am a responsible gun owner and DO understand where you are coming from, but you are just the other side of the coin....no better or worse than the "liberals"...stop labeling people and get a grip (on life not your .44mag)...
Dissidents are a dozen pro-American scum earning money on selling what they've got to sell, namely, as long as CIA needs them. They are not an interference - noone listens to them. Chechens were greatly surprised when they heard McCain trying to free them from Russia. :)
No, it didn't, Gymnast. We just have changed. Your, as it were, allies are only formally yours, as long as you waste the money of your stupid taxpayers on them. It's not much and being with Russia is more profitable. You are loosing this game, you just don't want to admit it. Even Georgia will soon restore relations with Russia, because without us they will loose their state completely.
Put the educators' mind and effort into unnecessary field. Educators shall put their mind in education not into a primitive way mankind protection.
This trend goes wrong direction.
The beginning of logical thinking starts in wrong subjective start will lead to wrong result. USA is not a third developed country in lifestyle but society becomes a barbarian third world.
Your question is profound because the logical approach is an such objective.
If you are talking the beginning of the logical approach, I would say the parents. The parents must educate their kids "No is no" till you, your kids and the society understand what is the importance in your society. Can not avoid the second amendments rights to own firearms,,, but this is not a same issue.
The school is the place for education and their future not the place for the barbarian battle place.
While a school admin may allow individual teachers to carry for personal protection, they cannot authorize licensed carry in a hired, armed employee in a protective capacity. Look this up...technically, the school district would need to become licensed by the TXDPS-PSB as a Commissioned Security Company and then carefully select a willing teachers to become trained as PPO officers. It could work, but sounds kinda funny, huh? Thanks, RT 11 yr. TxCHL instructor, fmr. Comm. Sec. Instructor
Yep, fascism is on the go.... If you call this Democracy then your Democracy is inhumane... Some powers are breeding orks out of Americans. Is there noone left to think about it?
I've been in the faculty for more than 25 years and never ever have I had an occasion, when I would have needed a weapon more deadly than a piece of chalk. There's something very wrong with the American system of education.
I discussed it a lot with your teachers. I'm squarely on the line with your whole system. I'm for the Russian, or Soviet, one. There's the drastic difference, you know: your system is based on selecting gifted, or system is based on collecting all to be gifted. You choose a perl in the mud, we make that perl out of mud. That's why our kids become brilliant in US and poor again back in Russia.
So in other words you have not participated in the American educaitonal system, and yet you want to tell us how to run one very small school district in a remote part of Texas. That is so European of you.
schetin: Are your wires crossed? Who is trying to tell whom how to live? You are in Canada trying to tell us in Texas, USA we should not allow guns in our schools. Sounds like to me, you are the one "trying to teach other nations," hey.
Didnt the school board pay any attention to what happened @ columbine what if a kid decides to take a gun and shoot up the place thats why you hire more school security guards
a police officer is throughly trained in the use of a weapon. Teachers do not qualify even with a short class as throughly trained in my eyes. There is nothing wrong with us having a difference of opinion on the subject..i just will never agree that school teachers should carry weapons in school...
"But unlike you, I'm not afraid to use a gun or any other weapon possible if that situation ever occurred."(USAGymnast)
You are talking like a nerd.
What you should be afraid of, is using your gun at the wrong moment.
I have a gun and am not the least afraid to use it when the time is right. The only thing that can make you afraid is not knowing when or how to use it.
Using it at the right moment should not make you afraid.
"So now you want the children to be armed?"(Propagandabuster)
I would never let my kids go to a school in wich the teachers carry weapons.
No weapons are alowed in school over here. Only police.
Teachers are no police and are as human as everybody else. They can kill just like any other. That's why I said that if the teachers bear arms, then let the student protect themselves from the teachers.
Acabramzack: Apparently you think the police are not humans and are not capable of making mistakes. Is that how it is in Canada, you now have robo-cops? Does the governor of California know about that?
How would a police make a mistake in a school where no one is supposed to bear arms ? It is the best way to not make mistake, because the only other one with a weapon is logicaly the criminal !
If every body has a weapon, how police gona know who is the bad guy ?
"If you only had two gun incidents in 100 years, why then do you need guards in your schools?"(Propagandabuster)
To protect the kids, not the teachers. There are rapists, mad people, in Quebec, just like everywhere else. Also to protect kids from other kids who forms gangs and experiment with power control, politics, group control, etc... Normal stuff. Some will be chiefs, some will be followers, some will be creators, etc... Normal stuff. Violence is normal but controlable.
"It's always society's fault or anybody else except the criminal's fault that they committed the crime in the first place."(USAGymnast)
I realy think that USA is a great society concept. Certainly one of the greatest. It canot be USA society's fault and "anybody else" is out of that society. Criminals are in every society but are minimal and should not require arming of the majority. Are you sure you are still the USA of the constitution ?
"You got it all wrong. The guns at the school is to protect the students from those who are not students and want to cause harm to the school."(Propagandabuster)
All schools have good security guards here, that knows the kids. A stranger is quickly identified.
"I know it must be hard for you to accept the fact that civilians have the right to bear arms."(USAGymnast)
I understand that perfectly. I live in a small town in Quebec (Canada) and we all have arms in our houses, for protection but mostly for hunting.
But never would anyone here bring a gun in a school, unless he (or she) was mad. It did happen twice in 100 years. We wont change our way of life for that.
In my opinion it only makes sense to allow anybody with a concealed carry permit to carry at schools or Universities just as they carry anywhere else. I also believe that the idea of carry permits is unconstitutional since the 2nd amendment gives us the right to keep and BEAR arms.
Those schools would be more secure than this campus. We have university security driving by every 10 mins but I doubt they'd be able to do anything when need be...
Pepper spray at most. Tasers just got their entry into the police force for special arrest teams a few days ago. Not even every police officer carries a gun; trainees and patrol officers lack one. I've only seen a patrol car of the actual police department here once (yesterday) when they seemed to be lost. I think the police on bikes is more armed than the security guards.
Looks funny now, but if some idiot would actually find a way to bring in a gun the security would be ordered to retreat and call in an intervention team from the police. By the time they arive... We have several buildings but most are connected. There are 29000 students packed together. A crisis like that did pass my mind a few times and so far I don't believe the university would be able to cope with such an issue at hand. Rather creepy thought.
This nation has a very strict policy regarding guns. In the US such conceal carry policy might work but I doubt it would work here. I wish they had some alternative system in place.
(I do wonder where I got that minus from. Insulted anyone with my worries? :S )
... would come to the school and beat them to death! So what do you think is going to happen now that teachers have guns? I guarantee you that the first time one of these teacher's guns is fired it will be at a student (most likely black) who talks back to them or who they just plain old dislike. I'm not asking you; I'm telling you. You heard it here first people.
I went to school during a time when corporal punishment was still allowed. The strange thing about corporal punishment in school was that the really vicious, disruptive kids were never "caned". It was always the good kids who lost their tempers once or a kid that for some weird reason a teacher took a personal dislike to that got caned. The reason for this was that violent students always come from violent homes with violent parents and the teachers new if they punished these kids their parents
Prop - Here in Los Angeles (some parts) the teachers need pistols, rifles, submachine guns, body armor, tear gas, battering rams, baseball bats, and an armored personell carrier. Oh, and heavy air support.
About dam time, i applaud this school board. Although some might find it extreme, i think its about time they did something about those dam school shootings.
I mean am i the only one sick and tired of hearing American school shootings?, now if the teachers got a gone forget about some crazy ex/current student coming to school to shoot it up, forget about the 30 something deaths. Crazy motherfuckers would think twice to commit there crazy murder suicide in schools.
Of course I agree. If one passes a background check, attends some classes, then by all means carrying a gun should be permitted. However right now that is a issue for each state to address.
--Prop, I've always wondered about that. Well, not really always. I used to be a Liberal. But I digress. Why is it that states & cities can heavily regulate the 2nd Amendment, but not the 1st Amendment?
texas' carry permit is one of the most difficult permit to carry of all the carry permits. still not too hard to get but just wanted to bring that up.
I go to this school :)
22theoutlaw 2 months ago
This is nothing but prudent and sound planning for the future.
dlstb 1 year ago
Can't wait to get my CCW and license, maybe the criminals will start thinking twice about raping, murdering, robbing and assaulting. Or maybe they just won't get the chance to become repeat offenders. ; ) Goodnight.
BrothersFreedive 1 year ago
This is a great step forward in school safety, and I really wish this were happening in all the other states too.
kingensai 1 year ago
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whtisrcowards 1 year ago
Are you originally from New York? I can hear a north eastern accent. maybe I'm going crazy though. great videos.
Stonyman65 1 year ago
@Stonyman65 - Thank you and you are correct. I spent my first 30 years in Brooklyn, New York, and the last 30 years in Texas.
PropagandaBuster 1 year ago
only stupid people from Texas think Ideas like this. Lets be honest Texas is full of WHITE STUPID IGNORANT MAGGOTS WHO THINK like STUPIDS!!!!!!!!!!
whtisrcowards 1 year ago
@whtisrcowards dude, I'm a Japanese American and I live in Fort Worth, Texas. I fully support this measure and am proud that somebody is finally taking a real stand against school shootings. Please keep your racist attitude out of the argument.
NRAdude 1 year ago
@whtisrcowards - Only stupid people who do not live in Texas think it is a bad idea. Also only stupid people leave racist comments.
PropagandaBuster 1 year ago 5
so are you for it or what
semperfi10delis 2 years ago
I am in favor of allowing teachers in Texas who have a license to carry a concealed weapon to be able to carry a weapon in school in this situation.
PropagandaBuster 2 years ago 2
cool man cool
semperfi10delis 2 years ago
lol "joynalist"...great dialect
KrigareavGud 2 years ago
It'd be cool if your teacher was a badass like dirty harry.
ab1tchslap 2 years ago
hahaha, the teacher carry pistol, but students will carry Machine guns.
dy2dlb 2 years ago
As a teacher, it is my sacred duty to protect my students from harm. "Gun-Free" zones do nothing but ensure the safety of psycho shooters while they are murdering kids.
leatherneck2044 2 years ago
I carry a gun because I cant carry a COP! TEXAS!
HerbWalker 2 years ago
lol...that's awesome.
phokuzbt 2 years ago
Fuck concealed carry. That should require a easily obtained permit. But lets talk about open carry. Open is the way to go. If you have both then the criminals are really on the run. I say anywhere but where alcohol is served.
DobermansRock 2 years ago
@DobermansRock I say even where alcohol is served but not if you plan on getting drunk. Also, I have to ask a real important ? here.
Is there a reason that we expect to be able to send a man to jail for 20 years and have him come out rehabillitated? I suggest that we only put violent criminals in jail, and only for terms less than a year. If a man commits a really violent act, like rape of a minor or murder we should just put them straight on death row. Would you want that man as ur neighbor
dlstb 1 year ago
@dlstb Brother we are speaking the same language. No argument from me. I carry all the time and feel I am responsible for my actions. Simple plan that seems to work well.
As for prison. Man I have a ton of feelings there. Terms are too long, too many people in for non-violent crime, it makes a good person bad and a bad criminal even better. Death penalty should be very surgical so only the guilty are punished. Eye for an Eye..
DobermansRock 1 year ago
@DobermansRock I agree, we should ALWAYS allow the individual the due process of law that is guaranteed by the Constitution and our individual conscience's before we take anyone's rights or property. That includes the right to life. I don't equate it to eye for an eye because the words after that are "vengence shall be mine, sayeth the Lord.", but we have the need to ensure our safety from physically violent people. In my mind, none of us should have to live with the fear of violence day to day
dlstb 1 year ago
@dlstb Look up a nation of cowards. It details the crime an individual commits if he allows another to take his life without action. It boils down to suicide which is also a sin. So for a law abiding citizen to carry open or concealed. I have zero problem with it.
An armed society is a polite and friendly society. Good day and keep em in the ten ring.
DobermansRock 1 year ago
i grew up very close to the area and it may be needed. i currently attend a public tech school in oklahoma. and looking at our security guards. i wish i could carry a fire arm at school
OKRODDER 3 years ago
Remember, Columbine had a security guard, He was the first one targeted, and he ran away. I would love to hear the people who don't like this to tell me how they would protect the children. The vast majority of the deaths at Virginia-Tech occurred AFTER the police were on scene. They had metal detectors at the Capitol shooting in 1998, the shooter walked right up and killed the guard and walked right in. Why is refusal to allow this to happen again a bad thing???????
I really do not understand.
commonsense5308 3 years ago
They are liberals, that is all you need to understand. Liberals love telling other people how to live.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
I am from the government and I am here to help. LOL
Government is not the solution to our problem, government IS the problem.
Spoken by my HERO
commonsense5308 3 years ago
wait a minute, aren't you doing the same thing?? and before you go calling me a "liberal"...I am a responsible gun owner and DO understand where you are coming from, but you are just the other side of the coin....no better or worse than the "liberals"...stop labeling people and get a grip (on life not your .44mag)...
AriM 3 years ago
Dissidents are a dozen pro-American scum earning money on selling what they've got to sell, namely, as long as CIA needs them. They are not an interference - noone listens to them. Chechens were greatly surprised when they heard McCain trying to free them from Russia. :)
schetin 3 years ago
No, it didn't, Gymnast. We just have changed. Your, as it were, allies are only formally yours, as long as you waste the money of your stupid taxpayers on them. It's not much and being with Russia is more profitable. You are loosing this game, you just don't want to admit it. Even Georgia will soon restore relations with Russia, because without us they will loose their state completely.
schetin 3 years ago
I don't have a gun, Gymnast, I don't need it.
schetin 3 years ago
Put the educators' mind and effort into unnecessary field. Educators shall put their mind in education not into a primitive way mankind protection.
This trend goes wrong direction.
The beginning of logical thinking starts in wrong subjective start will lead to wrong result. USA is not a third developed country in lifestyle but society becomes a barbarian third world.
trapskeetfly 3 years ago
But who will protect the school mom?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Your question is profound because the logical approach is an such objective.
If you are talking the beginning of the logical approach, I would say the parents. The parents must educate their kids "No is no" till you, your kids and the society understand what is the importance in your society. Can not avoid the second amendments rights to own firearms,,, but this is not a same issue.
The school is the place for education and their future not the place for the barbarian battle place.
trapskeetfly 3 years ago
I bet you live in a blue state?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Then USSR was a blue state, after all...
schetin 3 years ago
"If everybody doesn't have a weapon, how are the police going to know who the bad guy is?"(USAGymnast)
Easy. The bad guy will have horns on his forehead and a red pointy tail. LOL !
acabramzach 3 years ago
Anything can be a weapon.
trapskeetfly 3 years ago
If the bad guy comes to my house, he will be the one with the most bullet holes.
bj132001 3 years ago
While a school admin may allow individual teachers to carry for personal protection, they cannot authorize licensed carry in a hired, armed employee in a protective capacity. Look this up...technically, the school district would need to become licensed by the TXDPS-PSB as a Commissioned Security Company and then carefully select a willing teachers to become trained as PPO officers. It could work, but sounds kinda funny, huh? Thanks, RT 11 yr. TxCHL instructor, fmr. Comm. Sec. Instructor
dallassongwriter 3 years ago
This guy is a little too goofy concerning this matter.
DigitalPraise7 3 years ago
Take prayer out of schools and replace that with guns. Insanity!
DigitalPraise7 3 years ago
Yep, fascism is on the go.... If you call this Democracy then your Democracy is inhumane... Some powers are breeding orks out of Americans. Is there noone left to think about it?
schetin 3 years ago
i think this is a very irresponsible decision to allow guns in schools at all...
ncweb76 3 years ago
Would it be responsible if a security guard or a sheriff in the school were allowed to carry a gun?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
metal detectors, etc...no guns...sheriff of course...
ncweb76 3 years ago
So it is okay for a sheriff to carry a weapon in a school, but not for a teacher? May I ask the difference?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
A teacher is not an authority, keeping order is not his job. A teacher's job is to teach.
schetin 3 years ago
Well put schetin.
DigitalPraise7 3 years ago
I've been in the faculty for more than 25 years and never ever have I had an occasion, when I would have needed a weapon more deadly than a piece of chalk. There's something very wrong with the American system of education.
schetin 3 years ago
schetin: Have you participated in the American system of educaiton?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
I discussed it a lot with your teachers. I'm squarely on the line with your whole system. I'm for the Russian, or Soviet, one. There's the drastic difference, you know: your system is based on selecting gifted, or system is based on collecting all to be gifted. You choose a perl in the mud, we make that perl out of mud. That's why our kids become brilliant in US and poor again back in Russia.
schetin 3 years ago
So in other words you have not participated in the American educaitonal system, and yet you want to tell us how to run one very small school district in a remote part of Texas. That is so European of you.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Just like Americans trying to teach other nations is so American...
schetin 3 years ago
schetin: Are your wires crossed? Who is trying to tell whom how to live? You are in Canada trying to tell us in Texas, USA we should not allow guns in our schools. Sounds like to me, you are the one "trying to teach other nations," hey.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Didnt the school board pay any attention to what happened @ columbine what if a kid decides to take a gun and shoot up the place thats why you hire more school security guards
jdprice455 3 years ago
a police officer is throughly trained in the use of a weapon. Teachers do not qualify even with a short class as throughly trained in my eyes. There is nothing wrong with us having a difference of opinion on the subject..i just will never agree that school teachers should carry weapons in school...
ncweb76 3 years ago
ncweb76: Then I guess it is a good think you do not live in Harrold, Texas.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
yes....
ncweb76 3 years ago
"But unlike you, I'm not afraid to use a gun or any other weapon possible if that situation ever occurred."(USAGymnast)
You are talking like a nerd.
What you should be afraid of, is using your gun at the wrong moment.
I have a gun and am not the least afraid to use it when the time is right. The only thing that can make you afraid is not knowing when or how to use it.
Using it at the right moment should not make you afraid.
acabramzach 3 years ago
Amen!
numba1stunna4269 3 years ago
This guy is funny lol.
TheHappyGuy4 3 years ago
He who wears a gun should bear at least a double responsibility for whatever shit he is involved in.
schetin 3 years ago
Surrender to criminals ?
I am 52 years old and never met anyone pointing a gun at me, nor any of my friends or familly have.
From what I see on USA tv chanels (though now I rarely whatch tv) I suspect them to be responsible for the "paranoïa".
Unless you live in center of big city with ghettos and stuff. But who wants to raise kids in such a place ?
acabramzack 3 years ago
"It is not against our children, it is to protect our children."(Propagandabuster)
Maybe I misunderstoud. You said that it was the teachers that wanted to bear arms.
If it is to protect the young, then let the young bear the arms !
acabramzack 3 years ago
So now you want the children to be armed?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"So now you want the children to be armed?"(Propagandabuster)
I would never let my kids go to a school in wich the teachers carry weapons.
No weapons are alowed in school over here. Only police.
Teachers are no police and are as human as everybody else. They can kill just like any other. That's why I said that if the teachers bear arms, then let the student protect themselves from the teachers.
acabramzack 3 years ago
Acabramzack: Apparently you think the police are not humans and are not capable of making mistakes. Is that how it is in Canada, you now have robo-cops? Does the governor of California know about that?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
How would a police make a mistake in a school where no one is supposed to bear arms ? It is the best way to not make mistake, because the only other one with a weapon is logicaly the criminal !
If every body has a weapon, how police gona know who is the bad guy ?
acabramzack 3 years ago
"Yes, the constitution which allows all of us to be armed."(Propagandabuster)
Absolutely.
But not against your own, and certainly not against your kids !
acabramzack 3 years ago
It is not against our children, it is to protect our children. How come you are finding that difficult to understand?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"If you only had two gun incidents in 100 years, why then do you need guards in your schools?"(Propagandabuster)
To protect the kids, not the teachers. There are rapists, mad people, in Quebec, just like everywhere else. Also to protect kids from other kids who forms gangs and experiment with power control, politics, group control, etc... Normal stuff. Some will be chiefs, some will be followers, some will be creators, etc... Normal stuff. Violence is normal but controlable.
acabramzack 3 years ago
"It's always society's fault or anybody else except the criminal's fault that they committed the crime in the first place."(USAGymnast)
I realy think that USA is a great society concept. Certainly one of the greatest. It canot be USA society's fault and "anybody else" is out of that society. Criminals are in every society but are minimal and should not require arming of the majority. Are you sure you are still the USA of the constitution ?
acabramzack 3 years ago
Yes, the constitution which allows all of us to be armed.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"You got it all wrong. The guns at the school is to protect the students from those who are not students and want to cause harm to the school."(Propagandabuster)
All schools have good security guards here, that knows the kids. A stranger is quickly identified.
acabramzack 3 years ago
If you only had two gun incidents in 100 years, why then do you need guards in your schools?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"I know it must be hard for you to accept the fact that civilians have the right to bear arms."(USAGymnast)
I understand that perfectly. I live in a small town in Quebec (Canada) and we all have arms in our houses, for protection but mostly for hunting.
But never would anyone here bring a gun in a school, unless he (or she) was mad. It did happen twice in 100 years. We wont change our way of life for that.
acabramzack 3 years ago
There is something very wrong about a society that is so afraid of its kids that it feels the need to arm itself against them.
Just the idea sent to the kids minds and subconscious that society is taking "preventive" action to protect itself against them is quite disturbing.
If there is anyone in the world you should trust and share trust, it's your kids.
acabramzack 3 years ago
You got it all wrong. The guns at the school is to protect the students from those who are not students and want to cause harm to the school.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
In my opinion it only makes sense to allow anybody with a concealed carry permit to carry at schools or Universities just as they carry anywhere else. I also believe that the idea of carry permits is unconstitutional since the 2nd amendment gives us the right to keep and BEAR arms.
numba1stunna4269 3 years ago
Texas is the best state, you know.
auhin 3 years ago 2
Those schools would be more secure than this campus. We have university security driving by every 10 mins but I doubt they'd be able to do anything when need be...
Squig2510 3 years ago
Are those security guards unarmed?
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Pepper spray at most. Tasers just got their entry into the police force for special arrest teams a few days ago. Not even every police officer carries a gun; trainees and patrol officers lack one. I've only seen a patrol car of the actual police department here once (yesterday) when they seemed to be lost. I think the police on bikes is more armed than the security guards.
Squig2510 3 years ago
That is so funny, but so sad.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
Looks funny now, but if some idiot would actually find a way to bring in a gun the security would be ordered to retreat and call in an intervention team from the police. By the time they arive... We have several buildings but most are connected. There are 29000 students packed together. A crisis like that did pass my mind a few times and so far I don't believe the university would be able to cope with such an issue at hand. Rather creepy thought.
Squig2510 3 years ago
Guess you don't know in Utah students can conceal carry on any Campus in the State.
ClassicFIHD 3 years ago
This nation has a very strict policy regarding guns. In the US such conceal carry policy might work but I doubt it would work here. I wish they had some alternative system in place.
(I do wonder where I got that minus from. Insulted anyone with my worries? :S )
Squig2510 3 years ago
... would come to the school and beat them to death! So what do you think is going to happen now that teachers have guns? I guarantee you that the first time one of these teacher's guns is fired it will be at a student (most likely black) who talks back to them or who they just plain old dislike. I'm not asking you; I'm telling you. You heard it here first people.
Chiggs58th 3 years ago
I went to school during a time when corporal punishment was still allowed. The strange thing about corporal punishment in school was that the really vicious, disruptive kids were never "caned". It was always the good kids who lost their tempers once or a kid that for some weird reason a teacher took a personal dislike to that got caned. The reason for this was that violent students always come from violent homes with violent parents and the teachers new if they punished these kids their parents
Chiggs58th 3 years ago
Prop - Here in Los Angeles (some parts) the teachers need pistols, rifles, submachine guns, body armor, tear gas, battering rams, baseball bats, and an armored personell carrier. Oh, and heavy air support.
NoGuff 3 years ago
LOL I know exactly what you mean.
LeeroyFan101 3 years ago
do your homework or else!!!!
tx55drexray 3 years ago
You know what would be easier - Automated security.
They'd try to go in with guns or knives but the metal detectors would just lock them out.
It's much safer that having kids caught in the cross fire.
canucktunes 3 years ago
yea you can have the thing from half life 2 that conficates weapons and destroys them...
tx55drexray 3 years ago
About dam time, i applaud this school board. Although some might find it extreme, i think its about time they did something about those dam school shootings.
I mean am i the only one sick and tired of hearing American school shootings?, now if the teachers got a gone forget about some crazy ex/current student coming to school to shoot it up, forget about the 30 something deaths. Crazy motherfuckers would think twice to commit there crazy murder suicide in schools.
RedPandemic 3 years ago
thats the way it should be everywhere! lol. God i love America! lol!
what say u to that PB? lol.
117rebel 3 years ago 3
Of course I agree. If one passes a background check, attends some classes, then by all means carrying a gun should be permitted. However right now that is a issue for each state to address.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
"that is a issue for each state to address"
--Prop, I've always wondered about that. Well, not really always. I used to be a Liberal. But I digress. Why is it that states & cities can heavily regulate the 2nd Amendment, but not the 1st Amendment?
NoGuff 3 years ago
NoGuff: I guess you have a good point there.
PropagandaBuster 3 years ago
texas' carry permit is one of the most difficult permit to carry of all the carry permits. still not too hard to get but just wanted to bring that up.
wait887 3 years ago
What if???
ForSPARTAAAAAAA 3 years ago