Thank yo so much, Mike Campbell!!! That is the very thing I need! It helps not only in America as you can see, but also in Russia! The visual teaching method of yours is immensely useful!
Thank for sharing. i'm asia guy and started to working outside my country for a few months ago. i have many problem with Eng communicate. So i just start to lan how to speak Eng correctly. Actually, i'm following a few of your video. It's very interesting all. Anyway, i have some comments: 1) The presentation is not clear. some vedio, i cannot see the chart. 2) You try to compare with many languages. It's good. But it's not for beginer. It mades them confusing. i try to be frank.pls dont mind
It was really hepful, I was having a hard time understanding English vowels and how to differenciate them from front, central, back, and then close, close mid and so on.... You made things much more clear and easy to understand , thanks a lot =)
That was what I thought was the case - that you just got them mixed up by accident. You obviously have an excellent ear for the sounds themselves and they sound so crystal clear on your vid. It's only that you were pointing to the wrong symbol. Shunt some vowels round the chart one place and your explanation would have made complete sense! I didn't mean to be negative because like I said I enjoyed the vid, and I appreciate your info on sounds in Mandarin and other languages - v interesting.
Glossika, that's exactly my point. In your video you are pointing to [ɑ] at 2.33 and mispronouncing it as [a]. I realise that it was not your intention to get into the variation of accents of English, but isn't the whole point of your video to teach how the IPA symbols are pronounced and give some examples from different languages, including English? If so, it's important you realise that you are not pronouncing them correctly. I think that this matters for an instructional vid.
@noxiousdow Oh I see what you're saying now. I haven't watched it since I recorded it, but I do know this difference so I must have unknowingly said it wrong. I think I was confused with your comment because I didn't realize I got it mixed up in the video. I'm not the kind of person who likes to make mistakes and I tend to be critical of others when I catch them. So fair's fair.
There were also problems with your explanation of the other back vowels [ɒ] and [ɔ]. The vowel sound you referred to as the "clear" sound in British (RP) "robOt" is [ɒ], not [ɔ]. The higher and more rounded vowel sound [ɔ] is different and appears in British RP "bOUght" [bɔ:t]. These rounded sounds correspond to the å sounds in Scandinavian languages. West Coast US "fAther" is [ɑ], not [ɒ]; East Coast "fAther" is more like [a], not [ɑ].
@noxiousdow The variations in accents of English wasn't really what I had in mind for this video. But I still believe [a] is too far forward for "father". Compare it with Mandarin, which uses both [a] and [ɑ] in surface pronunciation (kan and kang, respectively). I do not find an equivalent [a] in the English I speak.
@Glossika Thanks for making this video. You made me understand all the vowel sounds better . However, I am still confused with [a], [ɑ] and . As a mandarin speaker myself (native speaker), I cannot differentiate that there is any difference with the pronunciation of kan and kang. In the second language I learnt ( British English), it is indeed no [a] but I can get the rough picture of pronouncing [a] from the word 'icon' /ˈaɪ.kɒn/ by separating the [ɪ] slowly. In your How to ......
@visitor1117 ...... Pronounce the IPA Vowels Part 2, you pronounced [a] is like the 阴声(ā) in Mandarin while the [ɑ] you pronounced in Part 1 sounds like the 去声(à) in Mandarin. I believe tones is not involved here. But when I tried to get the [a] from /ˈaɪ.kɒn/, I tended to pronounce it as (à) as well after the separation of [ɪ] because of the influence of the English stress. Can you do one more video about these particular vowel sounds? I would greatly appreciate your consideration.
@visitor1117 I didn't see your comment because you addressed it to yourself. Sorry for the late reply. I've noticed recently that where I thought I was saying short "o" in English, it was really actually an ɒ/ɑ sound and this is what was throwing me off for so long. But in Mandarin I would say that /a/ is closer to [A] than [æ] in words with pinyin "an" and "iang" ending, but the others are [a].
Enjoyed your video but there are some inaccuracies. As leoboiko said below, the "a" sound in Japanese and Spanish is not represented using [ɑ] but rather [a] or centralised [ä]. The sound you're making in the vid is right - you're just not representing it correctly. The [ɑ] sound corresponds instead to the (unrounded) vowel sound in "lot" [lɑt] in your American English, or the long vowel sound in "heart" [hɑ:t] in RP British English.
Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Japanese and a host of others do not use [ɑ] at all; rather, they use [a], to the left or middle (either a front or central vowel, but definitely not the back [ɑ]). Are you sure [ɑ] is really such a common vowel? Wikipedia cites [i], [a], [u] as the top three, not [ɑ].
Also my Danish grammar (PONS Grammatik kurz und bündig Dänisch) uses the same grid to explain the Danish vowels and besides this presents abundant example material of words with theri IPA transcription. I first have to get more audio-listening experience with Danish but later I want to study the IPA examples given in my Danish grammar. For Danish the usage of IPA is very helpful, because the pronounciation of this language is very irregular. Fasulye
OK, I copied your grid with the basic vowels of English (including Italian), this is useful to begin with. Your second IPA - vowel video uses the same grid and will go more into detail I understand. Thanks for the lesson!
Thank yo so much, Mike Campbell!!! That is the very thing I need! It helps not only in America as you can see, but also in Russia! The visual teaching method of yours is immensely useful!
Taroshka1 8 months ago
Thank for sharing. i'm asia guy and started to working outside my country for a few months ago. i have many problem with Eng communicate. So i just start to lan how to speak Eng correctly. Actually, i'm following a few of your video. It's very interesting all. Anyway, i have some comments: 1) The presentation is not clear. some vedio, i cannot see the chart. 2) You try to compare with many languages. It's good. But it's not for beginer. It mades them confusing. i try to be frank.pls dont mind
sing278 8 months ago
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plc20100 1 year ago
It was really hepful, I was having a hard time understanding English vowels and how to differenciate them from front, central, back, and then close, close mid and so on.... You made things much more clear and easy to understand , thanks a lot =)
geribrix 1 year ago
That was what I thought was the case - that you just got them mixed up by accident. You obviously have an excellent ear for the sounds themselves and they sound so crystal clear on your vid. It's only that you were pointing to the wrong symbol. Shunt some vowels round the chart one place and your explanation would have made complete sense! I didn't mean to be negative because like I said I enjoyed the vid, and I appreciate your info on sounds in Mandarin and other languages - v interesting.
noxiousdow 1 year ago
Glossika, that's exactly my point. In your video you are pointing to [ɑ] at 2.33 and mispronouncing it as [a]. I realise that it was not your intention to get into the variation of accents of English, but isn't the whole point of your video to teach how the IPA symbols are pronounced and give some examples from different languages, including English? If so, it's important you realise that you are not pronouncing them correctly. I think that this matters for an instructional vid.
noxiousdow 1 year ago
@noxiousdow Oh I see what you're saying now. I haven't watched it since I recorded it, but I do know this difference so I must have unknowingly said it wrong. I think I was confused with your comment because I didn't realize I got it mixed up in the video. I'm not the kind of person who likes to make mistakes and I tend to be critical of others when I catch them. So fair's fair.
Glossika 1 year ago
@Glossika Yeah I noticed that too. Where did you grow up in America?
yurismir1 1 year ago
@yurismir1 I grew up at 09098 / 83052 (zip)
Glossika 1 year ago
@Glossika No, I just wanted to know if you were from the Inland North region.
yurismir1 1 year ago
There were also problems with your explanation of the other back vowels [ɒ] and [ɔ]. The vowel sound you referred to as the "clear" sound in British (RP) "robOt" is [ɒ], not [ɔ]. The higher and more rounded vowel sound [ɔ] is different and appears in British RP "bOUght" [bɔ:t]. These rounded sounds correspond to the å sounds in Scandinavian languages. West Coast US "fAther" is [ɑ], not [ɒ]; East Coast "fAther" is more like [a], not [ɑ].
noxiousdow 1 year ago
@noxiousdow The variations in accents of English wasn't really what I had in mind for this video. But I still believe [a] is too far forward for "father". Compare it with Mandarin, which uses both [a] and [ɑ] in surface pronunciation (kan and kang, respectively). I do not find an equivalent [a] in the English I speak.
Glossika 1 year ago
@Glossika Thanks for making this video. You made me understand all the vowel sounds better . However, I am still confused with [a], [ɑ] and . As a mandarin speaker myself (native speaker), I cannot differentiate that there is any difference with the pronunciation of kan and kang. In the second language I learnt ( British English), it is indeed no [a] but I can get the rough picture of pronouncing [a] from the word 'icon' /ˈaɪ.kɒn/ by separating the [ɪ] slowly. In your How to ......
visitor1117 1 year ago
@visitor1117 ...... Pronounce the IPA Vowels Part 2, you pronounced [a] is like the 阴声(ā) in Mandarin while the [ɑ] you pronounced in Part 1 sounds like the 去声(à) in Mandarin. I believe tones is not involved here. But when I tried to get the [a] from /ˈaɪ.kɒn/, I tended to pronounce it as (à) as well after the separation of [ɪ] because of the influence of the English stress. Can you do one more video about these particular vowel sounds? I would greatly appreciate your consideration.
visitor1117 1 year ago
@visitor1117 I didn't see your comment because you addressed it to yourself. Sorry for the late reply. I've noticed recently that where I thought I was saying short "o" in English, it was really actually an ɒ/ɑ sound and this is what was throwing me off for so long. But in Mandarin I would say that /a/ is closer to [A] than [æ] in words with pinyin "an" and "iang" ending, but the others are [a].
Glossika 1 year ago
Enjoyed your video but there are some inaccuracies. As leoboiko said below, the "a" sound in Japanese and Spanish is not represented using [ɑ] but rather [a] or centralised [ä]. The sound you're making in the vid is right - you're just not representing it correctly. The [ɑ] sound corresponds instead to the (unrounded) vowel sound in "lot" [lɑt] in your American English, or the long vowel sound in "heart" [hɑ:t] in RP British English.
noxiousdow 1 year ago
Portuguese, Spanish, Italian, Japanese and a host of others do not use [ɑ] at all; rather, they use [a], to the left or middle (either a front or central vowel, but definitely not the back [ɑ]). Are you sure [ɑ] is really such a common vowel? Wikipedia cites [i], [a], [u] as the top three, not [ɑ].
leoboiko 1 year ago
Also my Danish grammar (PONS Grammatik kurz und bündig Dänisch) uses the same grid to explain the Danish vowels and besides this presents abundant example material of words with theri IPA transcription. I first have to get more audio-listening experience with Danish but later I want to study the IPA examples given in my Danish grammar. For Danish the usage of IPA is very helpful, because the pronounciation of this language is very irregular. Fasulye
Fasulye2009 2 years ago
That grid is standard IPA. Every phonologist uses it. I don't know Danish well enough to help with the sounds, but I can research it and report back.
Glossika 2 years ago
OK, I copied your grid with the basic vowels of English (including Italian), this is useful to begin with. Your second IPA - vowel video uses the same grid and will go more into detail I understand. Thanks for the lesson!
Fasulye2009 2 years ago
5 Stars for those insightful 8 minutes. Thank you!
AndreR241 2 years ago