sa bukur thote nene qysh moj tja bej halle tregome gjakun qe ke derdhur ku ka me mire te tregoje nena gjakun nga plaget qe ka derdhur a haroet gjaku i nenes sjam cam as kosovar por jam shqiptar ashtu sic jane dhe camet dhe kosovaret shqiptare a kemi gjak tja mbulojme gjakun nenes qe ka derdhur dhe tja marim gjakun nenes?a mundemi ta bejme shqiperi etnike pa pyetur politikanet qe po na coptojne dhe sot ne kete shekull.rrofte shqiperia time etnike pershendetje vellezer nga north america.
shum te qira permenden cunat e ilirive... skan faj se greku kar do. por jo trimat e Isa Bej Boletinit e GJERGJ Kryelartit kesaj here greku haleja e evropes kurve vetem gjaku vellait te tij e pret . s'e fal SHQIPERIA vetem gjak . gjak serbi e mish greku. te na rroj shqiperia e kujtimi e trmeris te ateve e te pareve gjak serbi do pim e mish greku te ham .
kush adhuron grekun ja qift rracen ndonje kafsh tropikale po ku ka rrace me e felliqir se kelyshi kurves greku te me falni per fialorin qe perdorur ketu rroft shqiperia etnike nga tivari ne prevez
o korca edi qe thoni shume fial greqisht ju por ta dish mir se grekut ikemi dhen buk dhe kur ka ardhur koa na ka dhen vdekje dhe me dy komshinjt tan grekun dhe serbin kurr nuke do te ket miqsi dhe kufi te apur
Cameria dhe Kosova kishin fatin e njejte. Ato u ndane nga trungu shqiptare ne vitin 1913. Te dyjat perjetuan masakra e vrasje e debime. Serbia beri kontrate me Turqine per debimin e Shqiptareve nga Kosova per Turqi. Kete e beri edhe Greku me Camet. Shume Shqiptare nga Kosova u debuan nga Kosova per Turqi por ne prape jena 3 milion. Kosova u be shtet. Tani radhen e ka Cameria.
Camerine do e kthejme ne Shqiperi duke i kthye Camet ne tokat e veta.
kur do te na thirrin qamet ne ndihme, ka shumeshqiptare ce kane deshire te vizitojn qytet qame edhe kane mundesi te mbushen tokat me shqiptare, une pres ma shume nga vellezrit qame, pse nuk ka ma shume njohuri per komunitetin qame ne kosove edhe ne diasopre, sidomos me muziken edhe kulturen e pasur pse nuk dalin ne mbremje festive ose ne koncerte ce behen per te rinj ne perendim
Late koqen e namit.. Greket e kurves thone qe kane 700000 vjet histori... Hahaha po kush i beson ..ka dhe do kete legena po mos u merrni shume se gjakprishur jane. Nuk na late ta degjojme kte kenge rehat...
ik moj te qifsha ropt mu ne pidh cke me camt moj kurv jevgu ptuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu tqifsha fisin legen shkerdhat qe ke i thu camit tradhtar qe la tokat shpin jeten qe mos te behej grek dhe ti brenda kufirit u shite per nje kar greku dhe 200 euro ne muajptuuuuu kurv e karit tim ta shkaperdhefsha fisin dhe kush te eshte futur ne fi me nuse dhe dhenderr ter rop qima jeno rrost cameria rroft kosova shqiperia ilirida dhe persheva usalbania kerkoj falje ter gocave qe lexuan kto flaj po skisha ca me be
o plera nga Korca, o llumi i nenes SHQIPERI, o prostituta greke,o te shkerdhefsha rropt qe me tregon ti historine e Shqiperise,po ca te kane bere CAMET moj apo te kan shkerdhyer pidhin moj zoraxheshke mutit...te fala nga VLORA
dhe ne qofte se do dhe fakte te tjera per korcaret shiko nga e ka prejardhjen emri korce dhe po te duash te te shkruaj me dhjetra fjale greke qe perdoren ne korce dhe ne asnje qytet tjeter te shqiperise.nuk desha te te bej prapagande per korcen por me detyrove.sepse une nuk besoj ne kufij midis njerezve.sepse nje dite do te hiqen kufijte dhe ju "patriotet "do mbeteni me gisht ne goje dhe nuk do kini cte thoni.
e ca te duket vetja grek? se shum nga ju shkoni ne selanik edhe i fusni nje s emrit nga prapa edhe beneni grek shum shpejt.pastaj ne patriotet ketu kemi qene kur na i kan shuar kufinjte na kane poshteruar e roberuar popullin edhe njerez si ne kane vuajtur per popullin kurse ata si ty vinin pas eres.tani ik mos na ca trapin duke me dhene mua mesime te jetes.
@bylysi Bini Burra ndihmoni Chamerin!mos u kenaqeni si politikanet tane vetem me fjale por jepni qdo gja per Chamerin dhe Chamet!. RRoft Bashkimi I Trojeve Arberore. Genti nga Dardania e Lashte.
Ore intelektual pa shkolle, degjo njecik ketu, se pari mbylle kete account qe ke se nuk reprezanton korcaret. Po te degjovi njeri te flasesh keshtu do te te rjepin te gjalle. Se dyti ato qe thua ti jane anasjelltas jane fjale SHQIPE qe perdorin greket e jo ne te tyret.
Une jam Korcare jo ti, ti je nga ata evgjitrit qe merr 300 mishken ne muaj.
Mos fol ne emer te shqiptarve sidomos Korcarve se le nam, ste bejme tonin. Harram qumshti i nenes, harram!
degjo ketu ti ore greko-korcar....ne labet nga vlora e kemi gjoksin grop...po e kemi k***n te madh....dhe po fole me per vlonjatet do ta fus ne goje,se e keni zakon ju greket.....dhe ne kemi pritur cdo njeri me nder ne vatrat e vlores....cam....cifut....etj...etj....po nuk e kemi zakon ta shesim bythen per 300 euro te greku....si ca korcare si puna jote....the ata kufijte qe thua ti kur te fluturoj gomari bytheqire grek do hiqen....klm LABI VLORE.
@KORCAGIAPANTA ore cun mos fol kot me lla, une jam me origjin nga kolonja dhe gjyshen e kam nga korca. Korca me lla nuk e ka preardhjen nga greku, ose ndoshta emri mund te kete kuptim, por te gjithe korcaret jane nga voskopoja. Voskopoja ka qene qyteti i dyte me i madh ne perandorine otomane, Voskopojaret jane vlleh. Mbasi u dogj nga vete muslimanet shqiptare, voskopojaret shkuan ne korce dhe ne te gjithe evropen, ne fakte nje pjese e mire kane shkuar ne austri. Voskopoja ka pas universitet
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per korcaret nuk mundesh te dish se cfare lidhje ka me greqine sepse nuk je nga korca.por sigurisht duhet te dish serenatat korcare dhe nga e kane prejardhjen.gjithashtu dhe kenge greke qe perkthenim ne kohen e enverit kur ai te fuste ne burg per prapagande.{sycka si ato te tuat ,ligjeroni etj}.duhet te dish dhe gjuhen e folur korcare me mbrapashtesat syckat, dockat,cupkat,etj qe jane te njejtat qe jane dhe ne greqisht.koritsaki ,pedaki etj.keshtu qe mos fol per korcaret se si ndehen
@bylysi he mo vlla si e ka hallin ky bashkqytetari tim ? duhet ta qim ne bythe ne shqiptaret qe te kthehet ne identitet se e ka humbur, apo qysh e ka hallin ?
@ethnikhart ne fakt greket e kan zakon, ta provojm njehere. Shqiptaret jan populli me i vjeter ne ballkan kurse kto duan toka ne shqiperi. cameria nuk harrohet asnjehere dhe asnjehere nuk ja falim grekut.
o idiot ti nuk je korcar po kjo seshte me e keqja per ty me e keqja eshte se ti as vate se di se cfare je nje bastard qe greket do ti thone shqipetar dhe shqipetaret do ti thone grek je nje jashqitje kombetare qe askush se do sa per shqiperine ka kush mendon do mendojne korcaret e vertete si mihal grameno e themistokli germenji kurse ti mendo per greket hajt qihu tashti dhe mas dil me pederast
O hale gomeresh, mos fol per korcaret se ti je hale s'je korcar. Korca ka nxjerr patriote me name qe ju qinin nenen grekeve nuk ka nxjerre plera si ty.
o korcagiapanta.... o robqir, o tradhetr, o i shitur, o rrac i degjeneruar, o servil i grekeve, o fis qire, ik qihu ne bythe per disa qindra euro dhe mos na caj karin ketu o rrac tradhetari. shko shite nenen motren dhe bythen tek greket..... te qifsha robt. ti nuk je shqiptar... ti plehre o te qifsha familjen! Vellezer shqipetare me falni por ky kurva meriton me shume se kaq.... plumbin pas koke. RROFTE CAMERIA KOSOVA RROFTE SHQIPERIA ETNIKE!!!
@KORCAGIAPANTA IK QIU O PEDERASK MUTI QE IA SHET BYTHEN GREKUT HARROVE TI SE PER SE KAN LUFTU PARAARDHESIT E TU HARROVE TI SE KUSH I KA VRA E SHIT SHQIPTARET TE GJAKUT TEND!TI MENDON SE SERENATAT KORCARE DHE ATO PRAPASHTESAT JAN NGA GREQISHTJA?NA DOLI DHE NJE BOLLANO TJETER NA HAJDE MA HA KARIN SE SKA VEND NE GREQI KU BEHEN SERENATA,SA PER PRAPASHTESAT ESHTE PER SHKAK TE DIALEKTIT ORE KOKKAR,TANI VENDOS CA JE GREK APO SHQIPTAR?
@KORCAGIAPANTA ik o pederast te qifsha fisin, une nga korca e kam origjinen po nuk jam grek dhe mos fol per korcen sikur jane te gjithe si puna tende se te qi krejt brezat une o ropqire femer
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ne qofte se juve ju pelqejne tradhetaret eshte e drejta tuaj por mua personalisht nuk me pelqejne ata njerez qe kthejne kurrizin nga fryn era dhe spiunon komshinjte e tij.dhe kush ka komshi cam e di mire se sa te pabese jane.
ja e keqja jote.gjykonne ate menyre popullin tend.pse ore pak korcar ka qe u bene grek magjikisht.a te themi ne per korcaret qe jane tradhetar te gjithe?
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me duket se ju nuk dini histori.a e dini ju qe ceta me qindra came luftonin bashke me gjermanet kundra partizaneve greke dhe atyre shqiptare? a e dini ju qe kryetarin e cameve meshar dino e vrau enver hoxha perbashkepunim me gjermanet dhe per tradheti ?
@KORCAGIAPANTA ty duhet te vij turp mos bej me komente ne videot shqiptar ti duhet te jesh nga ana e krimineleve Grek. SHQIPRIA DHE SHQIPTARET NUK TE DUAN, TI PERFAQESON KORCEN E SEMUR.
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mos di tse jie? te than tse je shqipitare, thase po, te than tse je albanian, thase po, te than te oulies te te kin turkote, thase po. ouliou tere nje. se ben ti e de fara jote per te jeni trimat si grekoy georgio kastrioti, si kolokotrwni ede botsari. tu ki bessen!
ore ouuust x-azerbaijani new turkalbani go back to Caucasus , the protocol of Corfu is open !!! Freedom in North Epirus !!!Freeeeeeedoooooom re agarina mounoskyla
it is true that greece officially supported all serbs wars against croatia,bosnia and kosovo...greeks hate you more than anything else in the world..the weirdest thing is that in the past 5 years it looks like greeks hate albanians even more than they hate turks and most of the greeks even very young or very old people wish for the albanian nation to get tottaly annihilated etc...they dont know that all this hatred is actually a boomerang against greece
It doesnt fucking matter who the offical Albanian goverment support in this NAME bullshit case!
The simple Albanian people dont even want to know about this case because it dont have nothing to do with them and bothe of them Macedonians and Greeks dont like Albanians anyways, so Albanians dont give a fuck what the name of the other country next to them is called
back in ww1 and ww2 the europeans helped greece to gain territories just out of their own personal interests..now many european countries show interest in albania more than greece so i hope that you ll get back the part from FYROM that belongs to you...as for chameria it is not so easy since the albanian people there have benn tottaly brainwashed for 100 years that they are pure ancient greeks descendants by greek chauvinistic propaganda
natnemir mirupafshim o vla you shqiptar dont work??shqiptars are hard working nation go to work re leave cameria kosova and shqiperia etnike for hasim thatsi and sali berish you dont have gruan and familien to give them food ???lol hahahhaahahah
catholicism never invaded balcans and some albanians are catholic because influenced by italians and pope as turkish influnced many greeks and albanians convert to islam also slavs turned to catholicicm and islam see bosnians and croatians turks converted many nations like bosnians
Catholicism never invaded Balkans??????? George- when the Roman empire was divided into East and West, so was Christianity with it. The dividing line was straight thru Balkans somewhere between Turnu Severin to Kotor. Tell the Slovenians. Hrvatski and thousands of Catholic Albanians that Catholicsm "invaded Balkans", you funny Karagozis fellow, you.
although giorgo remember some of these vorioepirots as you call them are actually albanian transformed by some priests who play political games with our people for centuries.
skenderbeis actually was from the vyzatine family of ioannis kastriotis the prince of epirus he fought with orthodox albanians the turks one life in kruja krouia how you call it mpotsaris he fought also ali pasha moretimes and his soldiers also ali pasha was albanian from tepeleni a town in albania
yeah arberia was part of byzantium but was not byzantiuma bunch of nations.and remember justinian invited us in morea he was illyrian his son constantine was its greatest emperor.
and kastrioti also had albanian muslim warriors.
yes sulioteand ali pasha strugle was a local dispute very harsh.but that doesnt make bocari greek.lol
ali pasha was clever many greek heroes like athanasios diakos odyseas androutsos giannis gkouras giannis panourgias they served in his palace he used greeks support against ottomans but he lost his war he was a powerful personality ali pasha considered souliotes worse than greeks i heard somewhere souliotes were the real warriors of kastriotis but is real they spoke also greek not only tosk arberore
Scanderbeg fought with othodox albanians such as Arianitet and catholics such as Dukagjinet.He united all albanians under his flag which is today's Albanian national flag.He was an Catholic bizantine.His succesors in South Italy are catholic bizantine too.
also albania has vlachs what about the voreioipeirotes labi?heimara dervitsani they suffer from your goverments for many years many of them died in albanian prisons in burrel and tirana because they had a greek origin albanian goverments did the same to greek minorities of south albania
if they wanted greeks out it would have been done since number is small but they didnt nor would the albanian people allow it.but keep in mind that many of these are not greek but albanian pushed to have greek identity because towns priests played political games.
kastriotis was orthodox not catholic as you say is wrong albanians were orthotox years ago manouil komninos vyzantine empiror transfert 100000 orthodox albanians to defend peloponisos from turkish you had same religion with us 500 years ago durres dyrraxium the 3rd biggest city of vyzantium
and the slavs is a lie there are not slavs propaganda of skopie that albanians support it and after you tell me why greeks support serbia??you support propaganda of skopie about slavic minorities there are no slavic minorities only greeks that assimiliated by bulgarian fascists that today called fyrom
Albania support FYROM???Are you insane?We support Greece in the case of the name of FYROM, although not openly.You on the other hand where glad and happy when Milosevich started to exterminate albanians in Kosova.You openly were on Milosevich's side on his conflict with Slovenia,Kroacia and Bosnia.
arvanites were fought for orthodoxy and helped greeks the chams origin is from the soldiers the askeria of ali pasa the turkalbanian administrator of jiannena since ottoman empire era chams were from turkalbanous the soldiers of ali pasha known families of them liapi gkaka etc orthodox arvanites botsaris etc fought them botsaris also considered himself as greek in his letters is not lies they fought with greek people against turkish instead chams killed us and their anchestors tourkalbanoi
actually arberors didnt fight for faith but for freedom and for blood.truth be told it was for a intependent arberor state but we knew even though morea was inhabited by us it was still greek land so we wanted to have moreaas a autonomus territory inside greece.this was the words of our leaders.
and actually you got it wrong cams have been living here longer than time itself.
and the christian cams and the muslim arvanites do you fail to recognize them??
maybe some chams didnt participate in the atrocities against us and i am regretting if zervas killed them the christians chams they had better relations with greeks than the muslims the muslims got influenced always by turkey policy turks demanded them in exchange of populations in 1922 claimed them turkish muslim minorities but greek government denied considered them greek citizens muslims that spoke the albanian and greek language
i study a lot this issue labi dont see me like greek i read a lot of options not only greeks and yours your people claims that edes attack to you and the collaborations with germans are lies but man i ve seen videos with chams soldiers to parade in romer in front of musolini and one german inspector to see chams while they worn their fustanelas and guns you did many to us zervas did you to protect his nation zervas man saved us from nazism he fighted for his nation
hear me man the atrocities of the muslims chams the christian chams didnt participate on atrocities many of them helped greek partizans against italogermans christian chams helped greeks but zervas soldiers while they see all that chams did to greek populations they had a hatred inside them and they attacked to albanian chams at paramitha and the truth is that they do many atrocities to all chams even christians .the greek files refer 2000 chams died 18546 went in albania from fear for revenge
it is truth man some chams killed a lot of greeks of thesprotia their leader was mazar dino and his brother dino ali bei mazar was executed even from communist leader of albania enver hoxha as a collaborator with axi forces instead albanian partizans liberated albania from axis not like the majority of chams who killed thousand of greeks together with nazi germans
cams was not a club and they were not nazis.those few that there war were enemies to us too.just like you had nazis and collaborators with central and allies which both comited crimes.
chams formed the milicia shiptare and ksilia an albanian political system of adminisration in 1944 with orders of mazar dino 49 local greek lords of paramithia and glyki executed by german soldiers more than 3000 greeks died from albanian chams and germans while the chams kidnapped the greek men sent them to germans for execution the prefector of igumenitsa giannis vasilakos excecuted with orders by mazar dino
Autochthones ALbanians in Epirus is a concept that does not exist for anyone (apart from yourselves & your mythomania)
As for Chams there are plenty of documents with the death lists they kept for their own neighbors that they considered "dangerous" , the telegraphs between Chams and Nazis that they regarded each other as collaborators (Chams confirming that the MUSLIM CHAM COMMUNITY SUPPORTED THEM[Ger,ams]) , so i guess this answers to your naive question why Chams should be expelled
Do not waste your time with qylysi here. He daydreams of the past days of Ottoman Albania when the turks and their servants the turko-albanians ruled Epirus. Sweat dreams bythlulis! lol.
my friend labi i dont want to argue this is the true story please listen me one time when zervas arrived in thesprotia with 1000 soldiers he asked the leaders of chams to give him their weapons like friends and he will not touch them and they will keep all the privileges that they had albanian schools mosques greek citizenship that they had since metaksas dictator era
look man if tsamides want to come to live in greece peacefully with us they can come like the one million shiptars economical immigrants that they live to my country look their fortunes now they change difficult to take back but they can have new homes etc but i dont think they will do they want to take thesprotia and to kill all greek epirots like they did in the past this is the truth man unfortunately good night
wtf are you talking about.we are arberor-arbanita you called us arvanite.
we were not nomads punk.our emperor illyrian emperor justinian invited his people to repopulate desolate lands in central greece.and epiri we were always there.
you are karamanli turkish christian dont lie.
and they or us have been pressured for generation by you sneaky bastard to become "greek" go to remote villages and see what they say to you dont ask a young person who doesnt know wtf he is
in december of 1944 arrived in thesprotia the greek general leader of nationalist army edes ethnikos dimokratikos ellinikos stratos napoleon zervas with his 10th merarchy which fought italogermans in south greece in his way he saw the albanian atrocities against greek populations of thesprotia including raping of our women forcing them to wear the white albanian hat killing of priests and the giving of names of greek lords by tsamides to ss leaders for execution
I live in Giannina I know about Vlachs in Metsovo, Kefalovryso or Mitzitie, Syrrako and
Kalarytes and many other villages in Pogonia. My husband is a Vlach, and if anyone asks them: what are you? They will give only one answer: We are Greeks,we have nothing to do with Romanians. I just wanted to know what you think.
like many arvanites and other they have been presured and surpresed for generations until parents did not want to teach their children their language and heritage to escape prejudice.and that is how you get people like your housband and my brothers.
go to vlach villages which are more closed and call them greek and soon enough you will have your answer.
Bylisi,who knows what would have happpened to Vlakhs if they had stayed away from Pindus Legion V and told Diamandi to flee to Romania or else they would slit his throat?!!!
Andartes did not operate in Epirus. EDES under Zervas was sole Greek resistance leader there. EDES and Andartes actually fought each other in the beginning but agreed to stay apart from each other using Ardhas (?) as a border. Events in Epirus 1941-44 have to be examined impartially and thoroughly.
that was the whole reason to expell cams because they didnt want to participate in the greek dispute like vlachs did the same as us.but an excuse is an excuse and we got the short hand in the matter.but if greeks think we can forget that they have a surprise coming
Οι Αλβανοί το μόνο πράγμα που ξέρουν να κάνουν καλά είναι να κλέβουν την ιστορία άλλων λαών και να "γλείφουν" τους ισχυρούς κάθε εποχής. Τους Τούρκους,τους ιταλούς τους ναζιστές και τώρα τους Αμερικανούς. Αν είναι ικανοί ας κάνουν κάτι μόνοι τους, μπορούν;
The 1/3 of Cham population were muslims. Muslim Chams had unstable national conscience. Until the beginning of the century they had Turkish belief and because of the Italian fascist propaganda -- because they spoke Albanian so they were considered Albanian race- they acquired Albanian belief.
So the dictator Pagkalos, who was an admirer of the Italian fascist political system, and under the guidance of the Italians Chams, were excluded the exchange of populations based on the Treaty Of Lozane.
For some people money are a powerfull motive At my opinion they are traitors.
If an Albanian historian tells you that Chams commited crimes in Greece during the War, how would you react? I am asking you because you deny everything, (although it's the truth)
you are wrong you deny everything and along with that our rights and our existence.but we have survived over 5 thousand years when all of us were pelasgians and hellens hadnt even come here and we will continue to live in our lands.
Nobody denies your existence. If you want to make you country great stay there and do it.
Why did you come in our country?
Do you know how many Albanians are living in Greece? Most of them came uninvited and illegaly I respect those who live honestly and work in my homeland because we were immigrants but I wil never tollerate threats Sometimes I feel that we have to deal with snakes. And leave the history lessons for somebody else not for me I know who I am and what i am.
because you have stolen our land.and we helped build that country and liberate it we have made that right.
if you acted more respectfully towards our people we would not be in this situation.
let history be history we dont care what you want to portray to the world about who you are or want to be we want our lands and we want our people in their rightfull homes.
Where are the 5000 yeas of history? Every civilization left something written behind the Egyptians the Greeks the Romans Chinese Aztechs.What was your ancient language like? Did your historians and archaelogists find any acient Albanian inscription in Albania or do they have any prooves of that language in Greece Did anybody find anything about ancient Skopian language? Balkans are full of Greek and Roman inscriptions. And what about the rights of Greeks in South of Albania???
To both little boys: As much as we discuss no one is going to accept the opposite opinion. My country the last years accepted millions of immigrants. I was born and grew up in Germany but I preferred to return to my homeland where I worked and achieved my objectives. However the envy and hate you feel for Greeks I΄ ωe never met it in another fara that came in Greece. And I never felt it in the abroad where I lived. But what we can we do? It's our fate to be surrounded by bad neighbors.
Nevertheless it was proved in the passage of centuries that the Greek Nation -which existed and it will exist until the end of the world (History without Greeks, impossible) - not only survived but it conquered the world with ideals as Democracy with our civilization and our Culture, fact that nobody can denie
The freedom of expression of ideas and opinions is a characteristic of Democracy and not of fascism for which you accused us. You said that anything comes out from the mouth of Greeks is a lie. So why do you believe them? (By the way we are talking about only a few "historians") Perhaps because Soros friends are not Greeks. The overwhelming majority of Greeks are liars, at your opinion of course.
grandparents. my best friends'grandfather was murdered by the Chams.And I know the history of my country very well.The good and the bad sites I know the history of my homeland from people who lived it and told me that not only the Chams and Greeks too commited crimes after the war.I believe them why can't you accept that every coin has two sides? Are you 100% innocent?
In the newspaper of Tirana "Bashkimi the Kombit" in 14.3.1944 were published the common energies of Chams and Nazis.
The results of those actions had as tragic results murders, rapes,violation the destructions of 25000 houses, and 100.000 refugees. Afterwards the defeat of Germans, the Chams being aware the consequences from their behavior during the possession, sought protection in Albania, and 18.000 Chams, abandoned Thesprotia
In July of 1942, under the guidance of I. Dino, brother in law of of the Albanian Prime Minister P. Verlatsi, the Chams, constituted the K.S.I.L.I.A. ("Albanian System of Political Administration") with 14 Battalions aiming at as their main the extermination of Greek population in the region of Thesprotia,
sa bukur thote nene qysh moj tja bej halle tregome gjakun qe ke derdhur ku ka me mire te tregoje nena gjakun nga plaget qe ka derdhur a haroet gjaku i nenes sjam cam as kosovar por jam shqiptar ashtu sic jane dhe camet dhe kosovaret shqiptare a kemi gjak tja mbulojme gjakun nenes qe ka derdhur dhe tja marim gjakun nenes?a mundemi ta bejme shqiperi etnike pa pyetur politikanet qe po na coptojne dhe sot ne kete shekull.rrofte shqiperia time etnike pershendetje vellezer nga north america.
FRASHERI1 5 months ago
7 dislikes must be Serbian or Greek pigs
QBL11104 5 months ago
shum te qira permenden cunat e ilirive... skan faj se greku kar do. por jo trimat e Isa Bej Boletinit e GJERGJ Kryelartit kesaj here greku haleja e evropes kurve vetem gjaku vellait te tij e pret . s'e fal SHQIPERIA vetem gjak . gjak serbi e mish greku. te na rroj shqiperia e kujtimi e trmeris te ateve e te pareve gjak serbi do pim e mish greku te ham .
trevat1 10 months ago
pa luftë nuk merret dot,punoni shqiptarë që të forcojmë shtetin dhe të kemi ushtri të fort,pastaj do merren të gjitha që na takojn
albanians2unite 10 months ago
Blood Remembers! Greetings from Turkiye, Hü Dede Sultan Hüüü
cabbar666 10 months ago
Very soon gay greeks very soon there will be another Balkan war and we shall see how much your gay gypsie skin is worth.
ProductionFuckGreece 10 months ago
LONG LIVE CHAMERIA
LONG LIVE THE ETNIC ALBANIA
verseloti 1 year ago
THE GREEK ARE ..... GAY ARE
I FUCK ALL YOU GAY GREEK
filaqoticam 1 year ago 15
kush adhuron grekun ja qift rracen ndonje kafsh tropikale po ku ka rrace me e felliqir se kelyshi kurves greku te me falni per fialorin qe perdorur ketu rroft shqiperia etnike nga tivari ne prevez
hysiful 1 year ago 19
shume faleminderit per kete vidjon
dhe kenga vete shume
shqiptarex 1 year ago 8
Oj kurvat dhe pederastet e greqise dhe ju o filogreke dhe ti oj kurva e dipllomuar korcagiapanta, doni te njihni se kush jane LABET dhe ÇAMET ?
Lexoni FS NOLI ( A TE DUHEN LUFTETARE? VITI 1924). Po ju nise nje pjese:
A do urte njerezite te rrine
Nen komande te kesh ushtrine
ne tabjate te kesh njerezine
Merre te gjithe Laberine
Ne do buke e bujari
Ne do bese e trimeri
Ne do njerez per katandi
Shko e gjeji ne Çameri
filaqoticam 1 year ago 52
o korca edi qe thoni shume fial greqisht ju por ta dish mir se grekut ikemi dhen buk dhe kur ka ardhur koa na ka dhen vdekje dhe me dy komshinjt tan grekun dhe serbin kurr nuke do te ket miqsi dhe kufi te apur
eduart20005 1 year ago 36
Cameria dhe Kosova kishin fatin e njejte. Ato u ndane nga trungu shqiptare ne vitin 1913. Te dyjat perjetuan masakra e vrasje e debime. Serbia beri kontrate me Turqine per debimin e Shqiptareve nga Kosova per Turqi. Kete e beri edhe Greku me Camet. Shume Shqiptare nga Kosova u debuan nga Kosova per Turqi por ne prape jena 3 milion. Kosova u be shtet. Tani radhen e ka Cameria.
Camerine do e kthejme ne Shqiperi duke i kthye Camet ne tokat e veta.
Rrofte Shqiperia Etnike.
Barebossi 1 year ago 41
@Barebossi
kur do te na thirrin qamet ne ndihme, ka shumeshqiptare ce kane deshire te vizitojn qytet qame edhe kane mundesi te mbushen tokat me shqiptare, une pres ma shume nga vellezrit qame, pse nuk ka ma shume njohuri per komunitetin qame ne kosove edhe ne diasopre, sidomos me muziken edhe kulturen e pasur pse nuk dalin ne mbremje festive ose ne koncerte ce behen per te rinj ne perendim
ju pershendes nga Suedia
mehmet80b 1 year ago
Vetem Shqiperi Etnike Asxhe Tjeter
xxBiohazardHackerxx 2 years ago 58
@xxBiohazardHackerxx rroft shqiperia e lir ..jemi shqiptare apo jo ...
argela1000 11 months ago
mamin o greker te ndyre
cameria1000 2 years ago 73
ROPT GREKEVE TE KURVES
filaqoticam 2 years ago 42
Kush do e ndezi cigaren daku?
Late koqen e namit.. Greket e kurves thone qe kane 700000 vjet histori... Hahaha po kush i beson ..ka dhe do kete legena po mos u merrni shume se gjakprishur jane. Nuk na late ta degjojme kte kenge rehat...
Prati555turku 2 years ago 9
Korcar qe te dy dhe shaheni ne kete dhoj menyre
skeni turp fare
NE NJE KENG PATRIOTIKE
e gjetet te ziheni juve
SHQIPERIA E SHQIPTARVE
VDEKJA E TRATHETARVE
POSHT KOMUNISTAT
ZR1c 2 years ago 8
te gjithe greket ne zjarr.
rrofte iliria.
gizadocden 2 years ago 6
Nuk ka greke ne Korce!!! Duan greket te na percajne o shqiptare se do ngelen pa tokat qe na kane vjedhur ne Cameri!!!! Robt ja qifsha
tirona78 2 years ago 6
ik moj te qifsha ropt mu ne pidh cke me camt moj kurv jevgu ptuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu tqifsha fisin legen shkerdhat qe ke i thu camit tradhtar qe la tokat shpin jeten qe mos te behej grek dhe ti brenda kufirit u shite per nje kar greku dhe 200 euro ne muajptuuuuu kurv e karit tim ta shkaperdhefsha fisin dhe kush te eshte futur ne fi me nuse dhe dhenderr ter rop qima jeno rrost cameria rroft kosova shqiperia ilirida dhe persheva usalbania kerkoj falje ter gocave qe lexuan kto flaj po skisha ca me be
fuckgreecc 2 years ago 5
coni par Shipetare dhe per Çamerine te luftojme deri sa bota ta marre veshe mire se cfare eshte i gatshem te bej per camerine dhe per ILIRINE
armandokapo 2 years ago 4
greket zene vendin e pare ne evrope per pedarati. shiko se cfar muti njerezish jane si dhe ato qe duan t'i ngjane
landinesari 2 years ago 3
o plera nga Korca, o llumi i nenes SHQIPERI, o prostituta greke,o te shkerdhefsha rropt qe me tregon ti historine e Shqiperise,po ca te kane bere CAMET moj apo te kan shkerdhyer pidhin moj zoraxheshke mutit...te fala nga VLORA
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dhe ne qofte se do dhe fakte te tjera per korcaret shiko nga e ka prejardhjen emri korce dhe po te duash te te shkruaj me dhjetra fjale greke qe perdoren ne korce dhe ne asnje qytet tjeter te shqiperise.nuk desha te te bej prapagande per korcen por me detyrove.sepse une nuk besoj ne kufij midis njerezve.sepse nje dite do te hiqen kufijte dhe ju "patriotet "do mbeteni me gisht ne goje dhe nuk do kini cte thoni.
KORCAGIAPANTA 2 years ago
haha
e ca te duket vetja grek? se shum nga ju shkoni ne selanik edhe i fusni nje s emrit nga prapa edhe beneni grek shum shpejt.pastaj ne patriotet ketu kemi qene kur na i kan shuar kufinjte na kane poshteruar e roberuar popullin edhe njerez si ne kane vuajtur per popullin kurse ata si ty vinin pas eres.tani ik mos na ca trapin duke me dhene mua mesime te jetes.
bylysi 2 years ago 2
@bylysi Bini Burra ndihmoni Chamerin!mos u kenaqeni si politikanet tane vetem me fjale por jepni qdo gja per Chamerin dhe Chamet!. RRoft Bashkimi I Trojeve Arberore. Genti nga Dardania e Lashte.
Genti115 1 year ago 24
Ore intelektual pa shkolle, degjo njecik ketu, se pari mbylle kete account qe ke se nuk reprezanton korcaret. Po te degjovi njeri te flasesh keshtu do te te rjepin te gjalle. Se dyti ato qe thua ti jane anasjelltas jane fjale SHQIPE qe perdorin greket e jo ne te tyret.
Une jam Korcare jo ti, ti je nga ata evgjitrit qe merr 300 mishken ne muaj.
Mos fol ne emer te shqiptarve sidomos Korcarve se le nam, ste bejme tonin. Harram qumshti i nenes, harram!
Mallakastra rrofsh per vidion!
marigoja 2 years ago 6
degjo ketu ti ore greko-korcar....ne labet nga vlora e kemi gjoksin grop...po e kemi k***n te madh....dhe po fole me per vlonjatet do ta fus ne goje,se e keni zakon ju greket.....dhe ne kemi pritur cdo njeri me nder ne vatrat e vlores....cam....cifut....etj...etj....po nuk e kemi zakon ta shesim bythen per 300 euro te greku....si ca korcare si puna jote....the ata kufijte qe thua ti kur te fluturoj gomari bytheqire grek do hiqen....klm LABI VLORE.
uqifshacupatgrekeve 2 years ago 2
Une jam vete nga Korca, por me vjen turp qe jam nga i njejti qytet me nje plere te shitur si ty!
josifgrabocka 2 years ago 4
@KORCAGIAPANTA ore cun mos fol kot me lla, une jam me origjin nga kolonja dhe gjyshen e kam nga korca. Korca me lla nuk e ka preardhjen nga greku, ose ndoshta emri mund te kete kuptim, por te gjithe korcaret jane nga voskopoja. Voskopoja ka qene qyteti i dyte me i madh ne perandorine otomane, Voskopojaret jane vlleh. Mbasi u dogj nga vete muslimanet shqiptare, voskopojaret shkuan ne korce dhe ne te gjithe evropen, ne fakte nje pjese e mire kane shkuar ne austri. Voskopoja ka pas universitet
karispidha1 1 year ago 9
@KORCAGIAPANTA Vdekje Tradhetareve! I pjek ti godas kush i shikon ti mbeshtys
ProductionFuckGreece 10 months ago
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per korcaret nuk mundesh te dish se cfare lidhje ka me greqine sepse nuk je nga korca.por sigurisht duhet te dish serenatat korcare dhe nga e kane prejardhjen.gjithashtu dhe kenge greke qe perkthenim ne kohen e enverit kur ai te fuste ne burg per prapagande.{sycka si ato te tuat ,ligjeroni etj}.duhet te dish dhe gjuhen e folur korcare me mbrapashtesat syckat, dockat,cupkat,etj qe jane te njejtat qe jane dhe ne greqisht.koritsaki ,pedaki etj.keshtu qe mos fol per korcaret se si ndehen
KORCAGIAPANTA 2 years ago
se kam larg korcen jo i dinj nja dy gjera.por edhe ti pse shan camet.ti sdi per camerine.por zemra jote greke do ti shanj se ske ca ben
bylysi 2 years ago
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ethnikhart 1 year ago
@bylysi he mo vlla si e ka hallin ky bashkqytetari tim ? duhet ta qim ne bythe ne shqiptaret qe te kthehet ne identitet se e ka humbur, apo qysh e ka hallin ?
ethnikhart 1 year ago
@ethnikhart
opo ai i qire eshte ne tru po lere. nuk eshte korcar o jo eshte genjeshtar sa per te hapur sherr kot.
bylysi 1 year ago
@ethnikhart ne fakt greket e kan zakon, ta provojm njehere. Shqiptaret jan populli me i vjeter ne ballkan kurse kto duan toka ne shqiperi. cameria nuk harrohet asnjehere dhe asnjehere nuk ja falim grekut.
shqiponjakoklart 11 months ago
o idiot ti nuk je korcar po kjo seshte me e keqja per ty me e keqja eshte se ti as vate se di se cfare je nje bastard qe greket do ti thone shqipetar dhe shqipetaret do ti thone grek je nje jashqitje kombetare qe askush se do sa per shqiperine ka kush mendon do mendojne korcaret e vertete si mihal grameno e themistokli germenji kurse ti mendo per greket hajt qihu tashti dhe mas dil me pederast
kaonlabi 2 years ago 3
O hale gomeresh, mos fol per korcaret se ti je hale s'je korcar. Korca ka nxjerr patriote me name qe ju qinin nenen grekeve nuk ka nxjerre plera si ty.
eroshi 2 years ago 12
o korcagiapanta.... o robqir, o tradhetr, o i shitur, o rrac i degjeneruar, o servil i grekeve, o fis qire, ik qihu ne bythe per disa qindra euro dhe mos na caj karin ketu o rrac tradhetari. shko shite nenen motren dhe bythen tek greket..... te qifsha robt. ti nuk je shqiptar... ti plehre o te qifsha familjen! Vellezer shqipetare me falni por ky kurva meriton me shume se kaq.... plumbin pas koke. RROFTE CAMERIA KOSOVA RROFTE SHQIPERIA ETNIKE!!!
nikol119 2 years ago 45
@KORCAGIAPANTA
SHAME ON YOU!!!
DHE MOS FOL ME SHQIP DHE MOS E MBA ME KETE EMER SE NA OFENDON TE GJITHEVE .....FOL GREKSHE GJUHEN E SATEME.
QE TURPI TE NGELET MBI TY
verseloti 1 year ago
@KORCAGIAPANTA IK QIU O PEDERASK MUTI QE IA SHET BYTHEN GREKUT HARROVE TI SE PER SE KAN LUFTU PARAARDHESIT E TU HARROVE TI SE KUSH I KA VRA E SHIT SHQIPTARET TE GJAKUT TEND!TI MENDON SE SERENATAT KORCARE DHE ATO PRAPASHTESAT JAN NGA GREQISHTJA?NA DOLI DHE NJE BOLLANO TJETER NA HAJDE MA HA KARIN SE SKA VEND NE GREQI KU BEHEN SERENATA,SA PER PRAPASHTESAT ESHTE PER SHKAK TE DIALEKTIT ORE KOKKAR,TANI VENDOS CA JE GREK APO SHQIPTAR?
YAUJTAwarrior 11 months ago
@KORCAGIAPANTA ik o pederast te qifsha fisin, une nga korca e kam origjinen po nuk jam grek dhe mos fol per korcen sikur jane te gjithe si puna tende se te qi krejt brezat une o ropqire femer
djditii 2 months ago
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ne qofte se juve ju pelqejne tradhetaret eshte e drejta tuaj por mua personalisht nuk me pelqejne ata njerez qe kthejne kurrizin nga fryn era dhe spiunon komshinjte e tij.dhe kush ka komshi cam e di mire se sa te pabese jane.
KORCAGIAPANTA 2 years ago
ja e keqja jote.gjykonne ate menyre popullin tend.pse ore pak korcar ka qe u bene grek magjikisht.a te themi ne per korcaret qe jane tradhetar te gjithe?
bylysi 2 years ago
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me duket se ju nuk dini histori.a e dini ju qe ceta me qindra came luftonin bashke me gjermanet kundra partizaneve greke dhe atyre shqiptare? a e dini ju qe kryetarin e cameve meshar dino e vrau enver hoxha perbashkepunim me gjermanet dhe per tradheti ?
KORCAGIAPANTA 2 years ago
Ore ti shqipfoles eja ne pushim nga kosova e do te prezetoj disa Cam une ty e ta jap besen se kurr me nuk do te flasish shqip e te mendosh greqisht.
gjarperi1972 2 years ago 4
hahaha u zbulua se nga vjen urrejtja jote. Jo vetem qe je hale gjakqire, por akoma me keq qeke hale komuniste qe na perserit gjepurat komuniste.
eroshi 2 years ago 10
Korca shko qiu
Me falni qe po behem bastard nga goja..
Ti nuk je shqipetare se po shet veten telk greku IK GAMISU
unengashqiperia 2 years ago 2
cam = cifut = sapun
KORCAGIAPANTA 2 years ago
ik re grek rrac e poshter
bylysi 2 years ago
nuk kuptove une jam shqiptar por ky eshte mendimi im per camet.
KORCAGIAPANTA 2 years ago
Ca mut Shqiptari je ti!? Ti je ose ndonje femije, ose ndonje injorant e s'di se c'flet.
BeratLA 2 years ago 5
Ti je hale gjakqire, se shqiptari nuk shan shqiptarin.
eroshi 2 years ago 8
@KORCAGIAPANTA ty duhet te vij turp mos bej me komente ne videot shqiptar ti duhet te jesh nga ana e krimineleve Grek. SHQIPRIA DHE SHQIPTARET NUK TE DUAN, TI PERFAQESON KORCEN E SEMUR.
TI E DI SHUM MIR QE AJO TOKE ESHTE SHQIPTARE.
shqiponjakoklart 11 months ago
This song brings me to tears. Cham Albanians have suffered for so long. GREECE let them return HOME!!!!NOW...............
Illyria2 2 years ago
bravo grupi jeni te pa pare ju lumte goja .nuk mbaron kurre thesari i madh i laberise me keto kenge te bukura.
gezimkaso 2 years ago
amazing... albanian folk !
dardanoilir 3 years ago 4
this is real video this tell that what greeks have done to us chams and for that our folk tell about the terror that wu have done o us
kaccy15 3 years ago 11
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do te mirni ni moyt temade! neve do tu marime dene tse keni viedoyre!
elladiths 3 years ago
meso gljuhen tende.edhe ate mutin ta fus ty ne goje o tradhetar.
arberoret e vertet jane gjaku ime jo i turko-kurd krishterin nga karamani.jan arberor gjak fisnik.ti je tradhetor muti njeri pa tok
bylysi 3 years ago
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mos di tse jie? te than tse je shqipitare, thase po, te than tse je albanian, thase po, te than te oulies te te kin turkote, thase po. ouliou tere nje. se ben ti e de fara jote per te jeni trimat si grekoy georgio kastrioti, si kolokotrwni ede botsari. tu ki bessen!
elladiths 3 years ago
ce thua more budalla.
ce thua?????
kastrioti bocari byutheguri are greeks??
hahaha
je 100% budalla edhe budallaj grekut.gjaku arberor eshte fisnik gjak trimi jo gjak tradhetari si ty.
bylysi 3 years ago
mbylle halen
teduashpirti 3 years ago
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ore ouuust x-azerbaijani new turkalbani go back to Caucasus , the protocol of Corfu is open !!! Freedom in North Epirus !!!Freeeeeeedoooooom re agarina mounoskyla
molossosarta 3 years ago
hahahahaha
you kurdish christian.black motherfucker.
bylysi 3 years ago
a fuck you all black greeks, you're talkint shit.
agon1984 3 years ago 8
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This video is really scary!! It is the actual proof that Albanians came from another planet!
This video should be removed! The people in this video scare me! Because they look like aliens!
wtds 3 years ago
majketi na sta ti lici oni tfoji sumadiski narod(folklor music)kad pevaju,ljepi jel????
*******PROUD TO BE ALBANIEN ******
iLoveeAlbania 3 years ago 8
it is true that greece officially supported all serbs wars against croatia,bosnia and kosovo...greeks hate you more than anything else in the world..the weirdest thing is that in the past 5 years it looks like greeks hate albanians even more than they hate turks and most of the greeks even very young or very old people wish for the albanian nation to get tottaly annihilated etc...they dont know that all this hatred is actually a boomerang against greece
greekmadnessss 3 years ago 4
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Ermal8711 2 years ago
It doesnt fucking matter who the offical Albanian goverment support in this NAME bullshit case!
The simple Albanian people dont even want to know about this case because it dont have nothing to do with them and bothe of them Macedonians and Greeks dont like Albanians anyways, so Albanians dont give a fuck what the name of the other country next to them is called
Long Life United Albania
NYPD44 3 years ago 5
back in ww1 and ww2 the europeans helped greece to gain territories just out of their own personal interests..now many european countries show interest in albania more than greece so i hope that you ll get back the part from FYROM that belongs to you...as for chameria it is not so easy since the albanian people there have benn tottaly brainwashed for 100 years that they are pure ancient greeks descendants by greek chauvinistic propaganda
greekmadnessss 3 years ago
cams live in albania too after the war.they deserve their homes.
bylysi 3 years ago
Albo
Labo
Kosova
Chameria
Shqiperi longlife
Fusionbybeta 3 years ago 6
God Bless Albania Gob bless Kosova Gob Bless Chameria and God bless every Albanian Land !
Death to Fyromians, Greeks, and Serbs!
Shqiperiaetnike07 3 years ago 7
god bless arberia
bylysi 3 years ago
labi go for uck leader what hasim thatsi and ramus haradinai you know more than them hahahahaahhhahah
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
haha
actually is aksh now is united.but no giorgo i got my own guerrilla so watch out.
bylysi 3 years ago
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e shiptar i go to mirupafshim 2 hours spent for all this bullshit i have to work in four hours
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
naten e mire giorgo palikari
tomorro i expect to see giorgo cursing at us.lol
dont break tradition
bylysi 3 years ago
natnemir mirupafshim o vla you shqiptar dont work??shqiptars are hard working nation go to work re leave cameria kosova and shqiperia etnike for hasim thatsi and sali berish you dont have gruan and familien to give them food ???lol hahahhaahahah
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
catholicism never invaded balcans and some albanians are catholic because influenced by italians and pope as turkish influnced many greeks and albanians convert to islam also slavs turned to catholicicm and islam see bosnians and croatians turks converted many nations like bosnians
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
and what about when christianity first spread.
all religions have come and go and so will these ones.who knows pagan religions could come back.tyou never know.
bylysi 3 years ago
Catholicism never invaded Balkans??????? George- when the Roman empire was divided into East and West, so was Christianity with it. The dividing line was straight thru Balkans somewhere between Turnu Severin to Kotor. Tell the Slovenians. Hrvatski and thousands of Catholic Albanians that Catholicsm "invaded Balkans", you funny Karagozis fellow, you.
IanHunedoara8 2 years ago
although giorgo remember some of these vorioepirots as you call them are actually albanian transformed by some priests who play political games with our people for centuries.
bylysi 3 years ago
i go to sleep shqiptar enough for cameria and grekoshqiptar problems natnemir skerdat hahaaha lol
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
haha
mut njeri aaa
bylysi 3 years ago
ti mut re malaka shit?
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
skata re malaka skataa.lol
bylysi 3 years ago
Bocari clearly said he was from skenderbeus soldiers.complete albanian.and bytheguri also.but how much were their writing manipulated?/
come on lets be real greek government took an agresive campaign to assimilate not only us byt vlachs and slavs too.
bylysi 3 years ago
skenderbeis actually was from the vyzatine family of ioannis kastriotis the prince of epirus he fought with orthodox albanians the turks one life in kruja krouia how you call it mpotsaris he fought also ali pasha moretimes and his soldiers also ali pasha was albanian from tepeleni a town in albania
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
yeah arberia was part of byzantium but was not byzantiuma bunch of nations.and remember justinian invited us in morea he was illyrian his son constantine was its greatest emperor.
and kastrioti also had albanian muslim warriors.
yes sulioteand ali pasha strugle was a local dispute very harsh.but that doesnt make bocari greek.lol
and remember alis wife was greek noble.
bylysi 3 years ago
ali pasha was clever many greek heroes like athanasios diakos odyseas androutsos giannis gkouras giannis panourgias they served in his palace he used greeks support against ottomans but he lost his war he was a powerful personality ali pasha considered souliotes worse than greeks i heard somewhere souliotes were the real warriors of kastriotis but is real they spoke also greek not only tosk arberore
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
Scanderbeg fought with othodox albanians such as Arianitet and catholics such as Dukagjinet.He united all albanians under his flag which is today's Albanian national flag.He was an Catholic bizantine.His succesors in South Italy are catholic bizantine too.
Albani1111 3 years ago 3
ca thua ketu o burazer.kush qenkan arianitet?
mos ja fusni kot.
bylysi 2 years ago
also albania has vlachs what about the voreioipeirotes labi?heimara dervitsani they suffer from your goverments for many years many of them died in albanian prisons in burrel and tirana because they had a greek origin albanian goverments did the same to greek minorities of south albania
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
if they wanted greeks out it would have been done since number is small but they didnt nor would the albanian people allow it.but keep in mind that many of these are not greek but albanian pushed to have greek identity because towns priests played political games.
bylysi 3 years ago
kastriotis was orthodox not catholic as you say is wrong albanians were orthotox years ago manouil komninos vyzantine empiror transfert 100000 orthodox albanians to defend peloponisos from turkish you had same religion with us 500 years ago durres dyrraxium the 3rd biggest city of vyzantium
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
Do you think Scanderbeg was Greek?What a joke!If he was a greek how come you dont have any statue of him ne Greece?
Albani1111 3 years ago 4
and the slavs is a lie there are not slavs propaganda of skopie that albanians support it and after you tell me why greeks support serbia??you support propaganda of skopie about slavic minorities there are no slavic minorities only greeks that assimiliated by bulgarian fascists that today called fyrom
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
we suport skopie??
dont you know we are enemies with them also???
i could care less of slavs whether in serbia or greece or macedonia.
bylysi 3 years ago
Albania support FYROM???Are you insane?We support Greece in the case of the name of FYROM, although not openly.You on the other hand where glad and happy when Milosevich started to exterminate albanians in Kosova.You openly were on Milosevich's side on his conflict with Slovenia,Kroacia and Bosnia.
Albani1111 3 years ago
no we dont suport greece nor macedonia.
bylysi 3 years ago
Unofficially we support Greece.
Albani1111 3 years ago
unofficially oficially whatever
bylysi 3 years ago
we dont't support greece they are biitches they have stolen our land chameria
UnitedAlbania4ever 3 years ago 4
arvanites were fought for orthodoxy and helped greeks the chams origin is from the soldiers the askeria of ali pasa the turkalbanian administrator of jiannena since ottoman empire era chams were from turkalbanous the soldiers of ali pasha known families of them liapi gkaka etc orthodox arvanites botsaris etc fought them botsaris also considered himself as greek in his letters is not lies they fought with greek people against turkish instead chams killed us and their anchestors tourkalbanoi
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
actually arberors didnt fight for faith but for freedom and for blood.truth be told it was for a intependent arberor state but we knew even though morea was inhabited by us it was still greek land so we wanted to have moreaas a autonomus territory inside greece.this was the words of our leaders.
and actually you got it wrong cams have been living here longer than time itself.
and the christian cams and the muslim arvanites do you fail to recognize them??
bylysi 3 years ago
maybe some chams didnt participate in the atrocities against us and i am regretting if zervas killed them the christians chams they had better relations with greeks than the muslims the muslims got influenced always by turkey policy turks demanded them in exchange of populations in 1922 claimed them turkish muslim minorities but greek government denied considered them greek citizens muslims that spoke the albanian and greek language
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
i study a lot this issue labi dont see me like greek i read a lot of options not only greeks and yours your people claims that edes attack to you and the collaborations with germans are lies but man i ve seen videos with chams soldiers to parade in romer in front of musolini and one german inspector to see chams while they worn their fustanelas and guns you did many to us zervas did you to protect his nation zervas man saved us from nazism he fighted for his nation
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
zevras fought for his pocket.
bylysi 3 years ago
hear me man the atrocities of the muslims chams the christian chams didnt participate on atrocities many of them helped greek partizans against italogermans christian chams helped greeks but zervas soldiers while they see all that chams did to greek populations they had a hatred inside them and they attacked to albanian chams at paramitha and the truth is that they do many atrocities to all chams even christians .the greek files refer 2000 chams died 18546 went in albania from fear for revenge
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
giorgo you are seeing black and white only.what do you really believe it was like so????
bylysi 3 years ago
it is truth man some chams killed a lot of greeks of thesprotia their leader was mazar dino and his brother dino ali bei mazar was executed even from communist leader of albania enver hoxha as a collaborator with axi forces instead albanian partizans liberated albania from axis not like the majority of chams who killed thousand of greeks together with nazi germans
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
cams was not a club and they were not nazis.those few that there war were enemies to us too.just like you had nazis and collaborators with central and allies which both comited crimes.
bylysi 3 years ago
re malaka!!!!!!!! bgale tis fotografies!!!! apo tin patrida mou!!!!!! kai tin foto tou markou mpotsari apo to profil sou!!!!!
likos1976 3 years ago
you write in greek and i will delete it.write so everyone can understand.
bylysi 3 years ago
chams formed the milicia shiptare and ksilia an albanian political system of adminisration in 1944 with orders of mazar dino 49 local greek lords of paramithia and glyki executed by german soldiers more than 3000 greeks died from albanian chams and germans while the chams kidnapped the greek men sent them to germans for execution the prefector of igumenitsa giannis vasilakos excecuted with orders by mazar dino
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
and how many cham civilians were killed??
just civilians.
bylysi 3 years ago
The documents exist though. Be our guests and see you in European courts to see what you got
Apokorwnioths1984 3 years ago
Autochthones ALbanians in Epirus is a concept that does not exist for anyone (apart from yourselves & your mythomania)
As for Chams there are plenty of documents with the death lists they kept for their own neighbors that they considered "dangerous" , the telegraphs between Chams and Nazis that they regarded each other as collaborators (Chams confirming that the MUSLIM CHAM COMMUNITY SUPPORTED THEM[Ger,ams]) , so i guess this answers to your naive question why Chams should be expelled
Apokorwnioths1984 3 years ago
apo stfu with that greek propaganda
epir albanian illyrian land and we will soon take it
ALBOCRIP 3 years ago
this has got to be the dumbest most stupid statements i have ever seen.but not the first time i have seen them from you idiots
bylysi 3 years ago
Seriously you didn't give me anything and really I don't care (I know the history of my homeland better than you, gege??)
And Arvanites never called themselves Albanians so stop call them brothers because they have nothing to do with people like you
elkagemini 3 years ago
name me some of those more closed vlach villages which i do not know
elkagemini 3 years ago
you got lame a week ago.seriously just go fuck yourself now.dont play dumb with me go play dumb in fron of the mirror.
bylysi 3 years ago
There is no point lowering your self to talk to him.
He obviously does not want to listen
He has been braiwashed with Hodjas propaganda all his life,he doesnt want to listen to the truth
The Vlahs and Arvanites returned to Greece and were fully aware of their Greek herritage even if they also spoke Romanian and Albanian.
They were nomads
They are more Greeks than the rest of us
No one pressured them to do anything,he obviously confuses us with the Turkish Yanitsar practice
Σε χαιρετώ!
artemiselene 3 years ago 2
Do not waste your time with qylysi here. He daydreams of the past days of Ottoman Albania when the turks and their servants the turko-albanians ruled Epirus. Sweat dreams bythlulis! lol.
CaptainSM2 3 years ago 3
yeah..... you're right
Cheers
artemiselene 3 years ago 2
capitan bitchy
why are you always on my dick
bylysi 3 years ago
my friend labi i dont want to argue this is the true story please listen me one time when zervas arrived in thesprotia with 1000 soldiers he asked the leaders of chams to give him their weapons like friends and he will not touch them and they will keep all the privileges that they had albanian schools mosques greek citizenship that they had since metaksas dictator era
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
and you believe zevras was that honest???
the same men who butchered babies with no mercy??
come on open your eyes.
bylysi 3 years ago
look man if tsamides want to come to live in greece peacefully with us they can come like the one million shiptars economical immigrants that they live to my country look their fortunes now they change difficult to take back but they can have new homes etc but i dont think they will do they want to take thesprotia and to kill all greek epirots like they did in the past this is the truth man unfortunately good night
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
the arvanites returned??
wtf are you talking about.we are arberor-arbanita you called us arvanite.
we were not nomads punk.our emperor illyrian emperor justinian invited his people to repopulate desolate lands in central greece.and epiri we were always there.
you are karamanli turkish christian dont lie.
and they or us have been pressured for generation by you sneaky bastard to become "greek" go to remote villages and see what they say to you dont ask a young person who doesnt know wtf he is
bylysi 3 years ago
in december of 1944 arrived in thesprotia the greek general leader of nationalist army edes ethnikos dimokratikos ellinikos stratos napoleon zervas with his 10th merarchy which fought italogermans in south greece in his way he saw the albanian atrocities against greek populations of thesprotia including raping of our women forcing them to wear the white albanian hat killing of priests and the giving of names of greek lords by tsamides to ss leaders for execution
georgegreek1984 3 years ago
I live in Giannina I know about Vlachs in Metsovo, Kefalovryso or Mitzitie, Syrrako and
Kalarytes and many other villages in Pogonia. My husband is a Vlach, and if anyone asks them: what are you? They will give only one answer: We are Greeks,we have nothing to do with Romanians. I just wanted to know what you think.
elkagemini 3 years ago
like many arvanites and other they have been presured and surpresed for generations until parents did not want to teach their children their language and heritage to escape prejudice.and that is how you get people like your housband and my brothers.
go to vlach villages which are more closed and call them greek and soon enough you will have your answer.
bylysi 3 years ago
If you want to find out who the Vlakhoi are and you live in Greece then I suggest you visit Metsovon with a side trip to Ioannina.
IanHunedoara8 3 years ago
I mean, if they HAD NOT.
IanHunedoara8 3 years ago
Bylisi,who knows what would have happpened to Vlakhs if they had stayed away from Pindus Legion V and told Diamandi to flee to Romania or else they would slit his throat?!!!
IanHunedoara8 3 years ago
vlachs had the same fate as arvanitas.not too many different mentality either.
bylysi 3 years ago
I said that you always had and have powerfull friends. Can you do anything without them?
elkagemini 3 years ago
What do you believe that the Vlachs are, Romanians?
elkagemini 3 years ago
Andartes did not operate in Epirus. EDES under Zervas was sole Greek resistance leader there. EDES and Andartes actually fought each other in the beginning but agreed to stay apart from each other using Ardhas (?) as a border. Events in Epirus 1941-44 have to be examined impartially and thoroughly.
IanHunedoara8 3 years ago
that was the whole reason to expell cams because they didnt want to participate in the greek dispute like vlachs did the same as us.but an excuse is an excuse and we got the short hand in the matter.but if greeks think we can forget that they have a surprise coming
bylysi 3 years ago
Οι Αλβανοί το μόνο πράγμα που ξέρουν να κάνουν καλά είναι να κλέβουν την ιστορία άλλων λαών και να "γλείφουν" τους ισχυρούς κάθε εποχής. Τους Τούρκους,τους ιταλούς τους ναζιστές και τώρα τους Αμερικανούς. Αν είναι ικανοί ας κάνουν κάτι μόνοι τους, μπορούν;
Είναι ύπουλοι και φίδια
elkagemini 3 years ago
translate what you have to say or i will have to dfelete it because not everyone can understand this.
bylysi 3 years ago
The 1/3 of Cham population were muslims. Muslim Chams had unstable national conscience. Until the beginning of the century they had Turkish belief and because of the Italian fascist propaganda -- because they spoke Albanian so they were considered Albanian race- they acquired Albanian belief.
So the dictator Pagkalos, who was an admirer of the Italian fascist political system, and under the guidance of the Italians Chams, were excluded the exchange of populations based on the Treaty Of Lozane.
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
was it not those same chams muslim and christians that fought together against the turks???
wasnt it these albanians fighting side by side muslim and christian fighting together for our freedom???
but in order for your fashist government to seem as valuable they had to demonize the alternative.but bullshit remains bullshit.
bylysi 3 years ago
And there are also documents about what Chams did. I already told you that Greeks commited crimes those days. But you are the one who is intolerant
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
tartarkos
eshte captainsm.lol
nje bythshitur i vogel qe se di ca eshte grek apo shqiptar edhe thote jam grek se mirrte gjyshi leke na greqia.
bylysi 3 years ago
cham te pabes ju nuk jeni as shqiptar e as grek ju jeni shkerthat turk te pabes jeni
tartarykos 3 years ago
ik ti ore far kosi grris bythen andeja.shqipetaret do bashkohen edhe brenda e keni ju tradhetare edhe greko fashista
bylysi 3 years ago
For some people money are a powerfull motive At my opinion they are traitors.
If an Albanian historian tells you that Chams commited crimes in Greece during the War, how would you react? I am asking you because you deny everything, (although it's the truth)
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
you are wrong you deny everything and along with that our rights and our existence.but we have survived over 5 thousand years when all of us were pelasgians and hellens hadnt even come here and we will continue to live in our lands.
bylysi 3 years ago
Nobody denies your existence. If you want to make you country great stay there and do it.
Why did you come in our country?
Do you know how many Albanians are living in Greece? Most of them came uninvited and illegaly I respect those who live honestly and work in my homeland because we were immigrants but I wil never tollerate threats Sometimes I feel that we have to deal with snakes. And leave the history lessons for somebody else not for me I know who I am and what i am.
THESPROTIA 3 years ago 2
because you have stolen our land.and we helped build that country and liberate it we have made that right.
if you acted more respectfully towards our people we would not be in this situation.
let history be history we dont care what you want to portray to the world about who you are or want to be we want our lands and we want our people in their rightfull homes.
bylysi 3 years ago
Where are the 5000 yeas of history? Every civilization left something written behind the Egyptians the Greeks the Romans Chinese Aztechs.What was your ancient language like? Did your historians and archaelogists find any acient Albanian inscription in Albania or do they have any prooves of that language in Greece Did anybody find anything about ancient Skopian language? Balkans are full of Greek and Roman inscriptions. And what about the rights of Greeks in South of Albania???
THESPROTIA 3 years ago 2
we have left little boy.we the people are here.wehre are the old greeks???
and you and some others feel the need to proclaim everything as yours when clearly it is not.
our ancient language was the pelasgian language which predates your hellenic language.forget about koine which is not even mature yet.
explain to me how ancient greek is more similar to our language than your koine??
the rights of greeks in albanian south??????
have you ever been there.???
are you kidding me???
bylysi 3 years ago
To both little boys: As much as we discuss no one is going to accept the opposite opinion. My country the last years accepted millions of immigrants. I was born and grew up in Germany but I preferred to return to my homeland where I worked and achieved my objectives. However the envy and hate you feel for Greeks I΄ ωe never met it in another fara that came in Greece. And I never felt it in the abroad where I lived. But what we can we do? It's our fate to be surrounded by bad neighbors.
THESPROTIA 3 years ago 2
no is your fate to spread propaganda and hypocricy
bylysi 3 years ago
Nevertheless it was proved in the passage of centuries that the Greek Nation -which existed and it will exist until the end of the world (History without Greeks, impossible) - not only survived but it conquered the world with ideals as Democracy with our civilization and our Culture, fact that nobody can denie
Thank you for the discussion. End.
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
the best thing you came up is hypocricy,snake like fashists and lies.
bylysi 3 years ago
The freedom of expression of ideas and opinions is a characteristic of Democracy and not of fascism for which you accused us. You said that anything comes out from the mouth of Greeks is a lie. So why do you believe them? (By the way we are talking about only a few "historians") Perhaps because Soros friends are not Greeks. The overwhelming majority of Greeks are liars, at your opinion of course.
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
Truth hurts right?? I am from Paramithia
and I know the history very well from my
grandparents. my best friends'grandfather was murdered by the Chams.And I know the history of my country very well.The good and the bad sites I know the history of my homeland from people who lived it and told me that not only the Chams and Greeks too commited crimes after the war.I believe them why can't you accept that every coin has two sides? Are you 100% innocent?
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
So you can not say that only 200 Chams were responsible for all those actions
And you are talking about genocide!!!
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
In the newspaper of Tirana "Bashkimi the Kombit" in 14.3.1944 were published the common energies of Chams and Nazis.
The results of those actions had as tragic results murders, rapes,violation the destructions of 25000 houses, and 100.000 refugees. Afterwards the defeat of Germans, the Chams being aware the consequences from their behavior during the possession, sought protection in Albania, and 18.000 Chams, abandoned Thesprotia
THESPROTIA 3 years ago
In July of 1942, under the guidance of I. Dino, brother in law of of the Albanian Prime Minister P. Verlatsi, the Chams, constituted the K.S.I.L.I.A. ("Albanian System of Political Administration") with 14 Battalions aiming at as their main the extermination of Greek population in the region of Thesprotia,
THESPROTIA 3 years ago