I can only wright so much but Catch IS folk style wrestling with submission. Guys come in our gym expecting 2 see crazy leg locks, & Funaki type subs coming otta nowhere lol Catch is about control & staying in top position. Our thinking is as long as your in control your not in danger. If a guy has your back hook your leg round his & secure Kimura. If your in his guard don't fall back(that's sambo) simply stand up 4 toehold. Look up "Combat wrestling" & that 70 Catch.
Catch wrestling is not submission before position. I'm a catch wrestler & its control befour submission. People look at old Pancrae fights of Ken & Frank shamrock & think that's Catch. ITS NOT. None of those guys had a wrestling back ground. Did any wrestling holds There moves was Sambo base which explain all the leg locks. Sakuraba is a true Catch hardly went 4 leglocks. His game was to control you 2 set up the Kimura. Catch is folk style wrestling with subs.
Most of the rapid-style submissions come form the fact that in Shooto and Rings they had 15 seconds to get the submission before they got stood up. There was no place for the BJJ lay and prey approach that you see in the UFC. It was a different sport that bred a particular style. That's it. If they limited the ground time in UFC you'd see it return. Simple.
I am wolverinemma btw, The major difference between BJJ and Catch is pinning . Shooto or 'shootfighting' incorporates pinning from Catch .The base is more of a traditional wrestling base ' watch Yoris hips'. The JJ is Japanese which goes perfect with Catch due to the fact that both use small joint manipulations and cranks . Erik Paulson was trained in Catch and Shooto by Yori. Erik does not consider himself a Catch teacher due to his BJJ influence . BJJ is great and the combo of all 3 is deadly.
@1madinjun You have to pin to control a dominate position, and you a maximum in BJJ is position before submission. I explain BJJ sometimes as just "upside down wrestling" but it is more than that. BJJ is about as much side control & mount as it is the guard. Technique is technique, no matter what you call the art.
@quantumjim Catch = submission from every position . BJJ "pinning' is terrible and I have trained BJJ with Alberto Santos a original Carlson Gracie Team member , Jorge Periera and trained with Pablo Popovitch who by the way on several occasions discussed the difference .
@1madinjun BJJ pinning is not terrible. ROTFLOL. Some guys have bad pinning, or they rely on too much strength to pin. A good BJJer can make themselves feel twice as heavy. I've also trained with some Carlson team members & occasionally with Pablo & others at his school. Name dropping won't get you anywhere.
@1madinjun pinning is very good in any combat grappling art that allows groundwork,bjj included,without it you have no control and no subs.Pinning is most effective in sport grappling where you can win by it,so just locking down is needed.When you try to finish you must relieve some pinning pressure usually.
@1madinjun Erik has a catchwrestling class at his gym in Fullerton. So I disagree with your statement. Erik can and does teach catchwrestling all by itself if he chooses to. The same as he can and does teach BJJ separately. His CSW is a mix of both, along with some other grappling arts.
@brucew22 I am aware that Erik teaches Catch because I trained with Erik and so did my first coach and his asst coach from 97 - 99 . I was merely stating that Erik although he should consider himself the overall authority of teaching Catch he does not sell himself as a Catch coach . Erik is a complete hybrid and professor of everything . He is one of the most well trained coaches I have ever met or had the pleasure of learning from but he doesnt consider himself a coach or Sensei of anything .
@brucew22 I am aware that Erik teaches Catch because I trained with Erik and so did my first coach and his asst coach from 97 - 99 . I was merely stating that Erik although he should consider himself the overall authority of teaching Catch he does not sell himself as a Catch coach . Erik is a complete hybrid and professor of everything . He is one of the most well trained coaches I have ever met or had the pleasure of learning from but he doesnt consider himself a coach or Sensei of anything .
@brucew22 Erik is called "Sensei " as a term of endearment and respect from his students and others . He often jokes and laughs when someone calls him Sensei . One time this Marine guy said "Sensei" to ask him a question and he said something like " the only belt I wore here today is the one still in my jeans ."
@pfdrpg You're right, but you're wrong too. BJJ & Shoot are the same thing. Lots of BJJ guys are always active, and I posted this video because I incorporate it into my grappling too. You shouldn't limit yourself to thinking of styles. Instead just worry about grappling.
These locks " shooto " are a combination of Jiu Jitsu and Catch wrestling . Shooto is mostly a combination of Jiu Jitsu , Catch wrestling , and Thai boxing . Catch wrestling, Shooto and Japanese Jiu Jitsu isnt as popular as BJJ so thats why alot of principals and locks are so foreign to most people . I teach Catch and Shootfighting and my advice would be to study everything . Most people who walk in to my classes are BJJ brainwashed and enjoy learning and understanding other grappling styles .
@wolverinemma I incorporate a lot of techniques I learned from judo, catch, wrestling, and others into my BJJ. That doesn't mean I'm not teaching BJJ. The best style is no style. For me, BJJ just means being efficient with technique - relaxed intensity and minimizing wasted energy by using leverage and strategy. That's what the actual name means. But it isn't "THE Way" as judo means. There are multiple ways.
@wolverinemma The principles of both are the same. Grappling is grappling, don't be brainwashed to think any one is better than the other. The only difference between catch & BJJ is tradition & history. That's all. Technique is technique & doesn't care what you call it.
@wolverinemma ... I was looking around on youtube for catch wrestling the other day, after I saw a video of people talking about some grommet move and the guy who invented it. Looks cool.
@wolverinemma they arent jap jitsu anyway which had no sporting application in japan then.Its judo thats the jap influence in shooto,not jujitsu,just like bjj came from judo,not jujitsu.Jujitsu was almost dead in japan by the time shooto started.
Well, as my personal understanding goes, wrestling is actually getting your opponent to the ground, while grappling is done when you are already on the ground. I could be wrong, but that is how I came to understand it.
i'm no grappler but damn that was beautiful!! i seriously cannot think of all those locks in just a sec. how long does it take till it becomes second nature to naturally execute this flawless technique.. maybe a year? or longer?
I didn't mean to remover the reply. Opps. It takes a year or longer to master it that well, but it takes only about a month to learn the entire lockflow if you train it every class 2-3x a week, and you practice it piecemeal at first. It looks harder than it is, but it takes a long time to polish. Such is everything in jiu-jitsu and grappling, though.
i have wrestle blind folded, an this video help me alot, thank you for posting it up, this video really help me learn how the body can bend an not when you cant see, thanks again
I retract all statements because to continu on is like argueing with a drunk. to say I know nothing about the arts is hilarious seeing as I strated training in 1969 probably as long as youve been alive or longer. Soits obvious you are not wiling to hear anything tht in anyway goes against your thinking or belief. One thing you havent learned about the arts Sir is personal growth through an open mind.
As a combative style, Shooto is very affective. It blends together the most dynamic styles from around the world to create a Martial Art worth studying. Also BJJ would be nice to add to one's belt for further ground development.
In Shoot, Shooto, Shoot Wrestling, Shootfighting, which ever way you want to call it, stand up fighting and grappling are equally emphasized. In a Shooto match there is no stalling, the fighter has to be continually moving or they have to restart from standing up.
TimA340 obviously knows nothing. Shooto is about finding a way to end each fight. This is Combo 1 which emphasizes arm and wrist locks, Combo 2 emphasizes leg locks, and combo 3 from quarter poison. There are many Combos which are different variations of lock flow. Moving from submission to submission. Shooto is Muay Thai, Judo, Sambo, Catch Wrestling and Jujutsu.
i watch this video over 10 times. and every time i learn something new,
i like to incorporate moves like these in to pro wrestling, which is hard when you not really trying to hurt your partner, but when you don't like the guy its ok
They are actually mostly the same lock - just performed in different ways from different positions. Besides learning to flow from move to move, the lockflow helps teach how each submission uses the same principles of leverage.
Not sure why commments didnt post but i'll do it again...Yori does have tapes of his fights from the 80s - I'm going to keep approaching him and telling him to give them to me (they're beta so he doesnt know what to do) and I'll do it.
Yori's the man - he's very humble, despite being one of the best alive - around him you feel as close to Bruce Lee as you can get
There are! I approached him after class one day and, as diplomatically-worded as possible, said "Sifu, you know there are a lot of ppl who would really appreciate and enjoy any more videos you can post, especially any of your shooto fights from the 80s" and he said he has them but on Beta tapes, so he doesnt know what to do with them - I said give them to me and I'll take care of it!! I'll do what I can...
Beyond being one of the greatest martial artists alive hes incredibly humble too
WOW! That lock flow is the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
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I can only wright so much but Catch IS folk style wrestling with submission. Guys come in our gym expecting 2 see crazy leg locks, & Funaki type subs coming otta nowhere lol Catch is about control & staying in top position. Our thinking is as long as your in control your not in danger. If a guy has your back hook your leg round his & secure Kimura. If your in his guard don't fall back(that's sambo) simply stand up 4 toehold. Look up "Combat wrestling" & that 70 Catch.
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Catch wrestling is not submission before position. I'm a catch wrestler & its control befour submission. People look at old Pancrae fights of Ken & Frank shamrock & think that's Catch. ITS NOT. None of those guys had a wrestling back ground. Did any wrestling holds There moves was Sambo base which explain all the leg locks. Sakuraba is a true Catch hardly went 4 leglocks. His game was to control you 2 set up the Kimura. Catch is folk style wrestling with subs.
b7r7u7c7e 7 months ago
Most of the rapid-style submissions come form the fact that in Shooto and Rings they had 15 seconds to get the submission before they got stood up. There was no place for the BJJ lay and prey approach that you see in the UFC. It was a different sport that bred a particular style. That's it. If they limited the ground time in UFC you'd see it return. Simple.
313Fender 8 months ago
I am wolverinemma btw, The major difference between BJJ and Catch is pinning . Shooto or 'shootfighting' incorporates pinning from Catch .The base is more of a traditional wrestling base ' watch Yoris hips'. The JJ is Japanese which goes perfect with Catch due to the fact that both use small joint manipulations and cranks . Erik Paulson was trained in Catch and Shooto by Yori. Erik does not consider himself a Catch teacher due to his BJJ influence . BJJ is great and the combo of all 3 is deadly.
1madinjun 8 months ago
@1madinjun You have to pin to control a dominate position, and you a maximum in BJJ is position before submission. I explain BJJ sometimes as just "upside down wrestling" but it is more than that. BJJ is about as much side control & mount as it is the guard. Technique is technique, no matter what you call the art.
quantumjim 8 months ago
@quantumjim Catch = submission from every position . BJJ "pinning' is terrible and I have trained BJJ with Alberto Santos a original Carlson Gracie Team member , Jorge Periera and trained with Pablo Popovitch who by the way on several occasions discussed the difference .
1madinjun 8 months ago
@1madinjun BJJ pinning is not terrible. ROTFLOL. Some guys have bad pinning, or they rely on too much strength to pin. A good BJJer can make themselves feel twice as heavy. I've also trained with some Carlson team members & occasionally with Pablo & others at his school. Name dropping won't get you anywhere.
quantumjim 8 months ago
@1madinjun pinning is very good in any combat grappling art that allows groundwork,bjj included,without it you have no control and no subs.Pinning is most effective in sport grappling where you can win by it,so just locking down is needed.When you try to finish you must relieve some pinning pressure usually.
scarred10 5 months ago
@1madinjun Erik has a catchwrestling class at his gym in Fullerton. So I disagree with your statement. Erik can and does teach catchwrestling all by itself if he chooses to. The same as he can and does teach BJJ separately. His CSW is a mix of both, along with some other grappling arts.
brucew22 5 months ago
@brucew22 Everything is a mix of both. If I teach this in BJJ class, am I wrong to do so? Of course not!
quantumjim 5 months ago
@brucew22 I am aware that Erik teaches Catch because I trained with Erik and so did my first coach and his asst coach from 97 - 99 . I was merely stating that Erik although he should consider himself the overall authority of teaching Catch he does not sell himself as a Catch coach . Erik is a complete hybrid and professor of everything . He is one of the most well trained coaches I have ever met or had the pleasure of learning from but he doesnt consider himself a coach or Sensei of anything .
1madinjun 5 months ago
@brucew22 I am aware that Erik teaches Catch because I trained with Erik and so did my first coach and his asst coach from 97 - 99 . I was merely stating that Erik although he should consider himself the overall authority of teaching Catch he does not sell himself as a Catch coach . Erik is a complete hybrid and professor of everything . He is one of the most well trained coaches I have ever met or had the pleasure of learning from but he doesnt consider himself a coach or Sensei of anything .
1madinjun 5 months ago
@brucew22 Erik is called "Sensei " as a term of endearment and respect from his students and others . He often jokes and laughs when someone calls him Sensei . One time this Marine guy said "Sensei" to ask him a question and he said something like " the only belt I wore here today is the one still in my jeans ."
1madinjun 5 months ago
1:10 That poor mans face says "THIS FUCKING SUCKS".
migraine516 10 months ago
@pfdrpg You're right, but you're wrong too. BJJ & Shoot are the same thing. Lots of BJJ guys are always active, and I posted this video because I incorporate it into my grappling too. You shouldn't limit yourself to thinking of styles. Instead just worry about grappling.
quantumjim 10 months ago
These locks " shooto " are a combination of Jiu Jitsu and Catch wrestling . Shooto is mostly a combination of Jiu Jitsu , Catch wrestling , and Thai boxing . Catch wrestling, Shooto and Japanese Jiu Jitsu isnt as popular as BJJ so thats why alot of principals and locks are so foreign to most people . I teach Catch and Shootfighting and my advice would be to study everything . Most people who walk in to my classes are BJJ brainwashed and enjoy learning and understanding other grappling styles .
wolverinemma 1 year ago
@wolverinemma I incorporate a lot of techniques I learned from judo, catch, wrestling, and others into my BJJ. That doesn't mean I'm not teaching BJJ. The best style is no style. For me, BJJ just means being efficient with technique - relaxed intensity and minimizing wasted energy by using leverage and strategy. That's what the actual name means. But it isn't "THE Way" as judo means. There are multiple ways.
quantumjim 1 year ago
@wolverinemma The principles of both are the same. Grappling is grappling, don't be brainwashed to think any one is better than the other. The only difference between catch & BJJ is tradition & history. That's all. Technique is technique & doesn't care what you call it.
quantumjim 10 months ago 2
@wolverinemma ... I was looking around on youtube for catch wrestling the other day, after I saw a video of people talking about some grommet move and the guy who invented it. Looks cool.
migraine516 10 months ago
@wolverinemma they arent jap jitsu anyway which had no sporting application in japan then.Its judo thats the jap influence in shooto,not jujitsu,just like bjj came from judo,not jujitsu.Jujitsu was almost dead in japan by the time shooto started.
scarred10 5 months ago
WOW!!!
Impressive. Too bad I can't understand what he's saying....but a pic...or a vid...speaks a 1,000 words!!
akrocuba 1 year ago
Superrrrrrr
farangsulsa2 1 year ago
Truly amazing !! Thanks for uploading.
tincansteve 1 year ago
I love the japs!!!
titochuck 1 year ago
awsome!
ilovejpoon 1 year ago
wow!!.. quite impressive, i have to say!.. :)
Kynnar 1 year ago
is there any yori nakamura shooto dvds?
thedundy69 2 years ago
Wrestling? or Grappling?
ArtesmarcialesJKD 2 years ago
Well, as my personal understanding goes, wrestling is actually getting your opponent to the ground, while grappling is done when you are already on the ground. I could be wrong, but that is how I came to understand it.
kingquadroon 2 years ago
i'm no grappler but damn that was beautiful!! i seriously cannot think of all those locks in just a sec. how long does it take till it becomes second nature to naturally execute this flawless technique.. maybe a year? or longer?
Neotrigunnerx 2 years ago 7
I didn't mean to remover the reply. Opps. It takes a year or longer to master it that well, but it takes only about a month to learn the entire lockflow if you train it every class 2-3x a week, and you practice it piecemeal at first. It looks harder than it is, but it takes a long time to polish. Such is everything in jiu-jitsu and grappling, though.
quantumjim 2 years ago 2
@Neotrigunnerx
longer!
dsarkissian 6 months ago
great vid
NilliedudeMMA 2 years ago
i have wrestle blind folded, an this video help me alot, thank you for posting it up, this video really help me learn how the body can bend an not when you cant see, thanks again
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TimA340 2 years ago
The word shooto can be translated as "learn combat".
kfresh2themax 2 years ago
I retract all statements because to continu on is like argueing with a drunk. to say I know nothing about the arts is hilarious seeing as I strated training in 1969 probably as long as youve been alive or longer. Soits obvious you are not wiling to hear anything tht in anyway goes against your thinking or belief. One thing you havent learned about the arts Sir is personal growth through an open mind.
TimA340 2 years ago
owh i c
Saadul 2 years ago
As a combative style, Shooto is very affective. It blends together the most dynamic styles from around the world to create a Martial Art worth studying. Also BJJ would be nice to add to one's belt for further ground development.
kfresh2themax 2 years ago
In Shoot, Shooto, Shoot Wrestling, Shootfighting, which ever way you want to call it, stand up fighting and grappling are equally emphasized. In a Shooto match there is no stalling, the fighter has to be continually moving or they have to restart from standing up.
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TimA340 2 years ago
TimA340 obviously knows nothing. Shooto is about finding a way to end each fight. This is Combo 1 which emphasizes arm and wrist locks, Combo 2 emphasizes leg locks, and combo 3 from quarter poison. There are many Combos which are different variations of lock flow. Moving from submission to submission. Shooto is Muay Thai, Judo, Sambo, Catch Wrestling and Jujutsu.
kfresh2themax 2 years ago
Remind me never fight against you LOL
Chevalier765 2 years ago
i watch this video over 10 times. and every time i learn something new,
i like to incorporate moves like these in to pro wrestling, which is hard when you not really trying to hurt your partner, but when you don't like the guy its ok
KENCANADA1982 2 years ago
lol
absourate 2 years ago
Real nice, love the reverse triangle from armbar control
getthetapjj 3 years ago
this is the type of wrestling that was used to defeat andre the giant before he did scripted wwf wrestling truly amazing
senioryangvang 3 years ago
WTF!!! How come I only knew about half of those locks?
paolo27th 3 years ago
probably cuz your instructor didnt know them either. no disrespect.
senioryangvang 3 years ago
They are actually mostly the same lock - just performed in different ways from different positions. Besides learning to flow from move to move, the lockflow helps teach how each submission uses the same principles of leverage.
quantumjim 3 years ago
Great lock flow I loved it please post more SHOOTO
HARDSTOPHIT 3 years ago
WoW!!!
chiman1000 3 years ago
Not sure why commments didnt post but i'll do it again...Yori does have tapes of his fights from the 80s - I'm going to keep approaching him and telling him to give them to me (they're beta so he doesnt know what to do) and I'll do it.
Yori's the man - he's very humble, despite being one of the best alive - around him you feel as close to Bruce Lee as you can get
cinebros 3 years ago
i have to admit that he is a genius, he understands martial art so well.
hippo314 3 years ago
Yori Nakamura is such a complete martial artist. Much respect.
megaman349 3 years ago
Wow someone gave this video less than five stars.
JRT140 3 years ago 4
Yori Nakamura is so amazing to watch. I wish their were some of his competition videos out there somewhere.
555mvp 3 years ago
There are! I approached him after class one day and, as diplomatically-worded as possible, said "Sifu, you know there are a lot of ppl who would really appreciate and enjoy any more videos you can post, especially any of your shooto fights from the 80s" and he said he has them but on Beta tapes, so he doesnt know what to do with them - I said give them to me and I'll take care of it!! I'll do what I can...
Beyond being one of the greatest martial artists alive hes incredibly humble too
cinebros 3 years ago
That's great news. I hope something comes of it one day as that would be incredibly valuable to martial artists everywhere.
Thanks for the response.
555mvp 3 years ago
wow!
culebra12345 4 years ago