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  • Wow! Imagine Segovia saying "very good" to your playing! man!

  • Not arpegiatto - simultaneo :) - Of course he's right - my teacher always pointed the same many time during my studies :)

  • Segovia couldn't be different. He was the only one. When you are the absolute "king", you think that what you do can be done only in the way you do this.

  • he play really really good, one of the few..

  • debe ser mas facil sacarlo a hugo chavez del poder ke aprobar guitarra con un profesor como el viejo segovia ! jajaja! Re problematico !! jajaja! arpeggiato no !! arpeggito es esoooo !!! simultaneooo !!! concretooo!! jajajaja

  • @ritnewspaper me too, man! he's so cool, and his suggestions were really helpful. he really knows his stuff.

  • A VECES SE CRITICA A SEGOVIA,TAL VEZ HOY HAY GUITARRISTAS CON MAS HABILIDAD ,PERO SEGOVIA SACABA EL ESPIRITU DE LA GUITARRA ,LO QUE SE HA PERDIDO PORQUE MUCHOS GUITARRISTAS SE DEDICAN AL VIRTUOSISMO Y NO LOGRAN EXPRESAR A PLENITUD LO QUE SE PUEDE HACER CON UNA GUITARRA.

  • Was he too old there to play guitar?

  • Chapdelaine better than Segovia.This is the joke of the year,noone played better Segovia and noone will play like him untill another 200 years passes.

    He was the favorite of Lagoya and Bream and he was the greatest in the romantic area playing ,i think many people do not understand his playing or they hear just to his old recordings after 1970

  • I think that Segovia had some problem to accept new generation of guitarists that, obviously, play better than Segovia himself. Like Chapdelaine.

    For me, it's clear that Chapdelaine plays Tansman better than Segovia.

    In this video Segovia is very old and his pride drives him to make a terrible mistake...

  • I thank my mother for teaching me spanish! I understand the maestro better!

  • That's weird music.......almost alien..

    BTW, is this the same Chapdelaine as in Michael Chapdelaine?

  • Chapdelaine was a really good classical guitarist :)

  • @CezarCimpeanu1 still is

  • I believe that Mr. Chapdelaine was amazingly composed and teachable to return and perfrom so well after the Mallorca incident. He had great dignity and poise. Others have criticized Segovia for his treatment of Mallorca, but I believe that as Chapdelaien was using Segovia's edition of the piece, Segovia expected Segovia's fingerings. Aside from some basic interpretation, the master might have found it difficult to impart anything without being able to see Chapdelaine's fingerings on paper IMO

  • Yes it is.

  • is this the famous micheal chapdelaine from way back when

  • @malagawatch

    Yes

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  • I DONT THINK TATH " potrodsas " beginner IN THE WORLD THE CLASSICAL GUITAR AGUSTIN BARRIOS IS THE repotoire OF CLASSICL GUITAR END NOT GEGOVIA OR ENY MASTER CAN SAY THINGS SO STOPED ON A genius LIKE HIM ..............................­....

  • Anyone who knows that Music is an art,and not just a " good time" will agree that Barrios music is rubbish.

  • lol?

  • Segovia played 100s of composers and I don't see what stopped him of play Barrios..other than he didn't like the music.

    All the musical choices Segovia ever made were proven right even when he criticized V.Lobos(a much better composer than Barrios)and others too.

    It's another thing music for guitar,and another thing classical music for guitar.

  • Segovia supposedly was highly impressed when Barrios played for him for the first time. The story goes that he asked Barrios permission to use one of his pieces during his performances. He never ended up playing any Barrios pieces, and it was probably because of ego. He likely didn't want to cause Barrios to rise to stardom and threaten his own reputation as the definitive classical guitarist. (Back then Barrios was only locally famous)

  • Sarabande from Cavatina by Alexandre Tansman

  • who knows the name of this song? please

  • Apparently Segovia was a jerk of sorts.  but it is also true that he really put the guitar on the map as a solo instrument. I agree that there are many guitarists today who are probably better. But remember, Segovia played until he was very old, and played quite well until he became ancient.

  • Can you elaborate - in regards to Segovia being a jerk? I'm by no mean questioning the validity of your statement, but I actually want to know.

    Thanks

  • Just the way he conducts these classes. It's hard to find anything wrong at all with the way most of these students play, but he just seems to detect some microscopic flaw that no one else would notice. I don't know - nothing really bad, just his impatience I guess. Still, like I said before, he did so much for popularizing guitar. Probably more than anyone - especially back years ago when he really was king and the guitar wasn't considered much of a solo instrument.

  • what piece is he playing anyway?

  • Tansman's Cavatina- Sarabande

  • Beautiful piece.

  • the whole reason to play in a master class is to learn.If do not want the weaknesses in your playing exposed,or even experience some humiliation don't play in a master class.regardless of the master's attitude who ever it is.If you do not have any problems why are playing in master class anyway?

    this is the nature of the master class like it or not.

  • It's a LOT more complicated that you say.

    People go to MAster Classes for all sorts of reasons;

    and most are a big waste of time.

    But Segovia was not perfect and his attitude here stinks.

    MC went on to become a much better and versatile player than Segovia ever could...

    so who's the Master?

  • @elhombresfbay

    Oh bullshit. There's no Universal rule for MAster Classes.

    The point should be to HELP the student not an ego blast by the teacher.

    My way or the Highway is a rude way to treat a student who worked his ass off to get to this point.

  • This video wasn't so bad than the other, and I suppose we should give the BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT to master Segovia...say? Afterall, this masterclass was taken just before he died (didn't he die a year later?). Segovia, in other words, was physically hurting which in turn controlled his mind, and so his rude outburst (from the other video) is explainable. These students should have gotten his lessons during his younger years, and I bet the experience wouldn't be as bad...perhaps, even wonderful!

  • I heard he was always like this, an egotistical jerk. Even Barrios once said he was "Deaf in the heart".

  • yup. Barrios gave him a signed/dedicated copy of La Catedral. Segovia knew if he introduced that piece to audiences, Barrios stood a chance of catching up to or even surpasing Segovia.

  • Barrios music is maybe nice to the ears of a beginner (and guitarists with no true artistic sense of classical music like J.Williams )but it's not what the classical guitar repertoire is looking for.

    Barrios was a good fella ,an amazing guitarist ,a person who loved the arts,and he put his country on to the artistic map,but he was not a classical guitar composer of significance..

    Barrios music is semi-folk and at best ,cheap romanticism.

  • Is the "classical guitar repotoire" some sort of sentient being, or are you just another one of those self-absorbed classical guitarists who thinks he is somehow more gifted than others because he can find a reason to criticize Barrios and John Williams?

    Perhaps Williams' playing is extremely precise and maybe mechanical to some ears, but to say he has no 'true' artistic sense of classical music is madness.

    Some people need to get over themselves.

  • Who do you think you trying to lecture here you idiot?

    I don't play music (since you are curious)but I have listened to much music than your mother have sucked dicks- that's for sure.

  • @potrodsas

    You need to clarify statements like that. What exactly is the classical guitar repertoire looking for? What exactly is the difference between cheap and "true" romanticism? What exactly is true artistic sense and how does JW not have it?

  • @wassuppaska

    I'm not your father and nobody pays me to teach you.

    Those who know music ,they know exactly what I'm talking about.

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  • @ravner1976

    No! I just got pissed off when J.W is "worshiped " here.

    Who is J.W? He is an average guitarist with no tone or understanding of quality music even after 50 years of professional playing.

    Also this intellectual midget had the audacity to say that the great Segovia was" a limited musician"..forgetting that Segovia's criterion was (and still is) the only standard for good guitar music in this planet.

    Segovia was the greatest! Guys like Williams coming by the thousands every year.

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  • @ravner1976

    I,m a big European and you are a small Philippino..so I see no logic.

  • For cheap romanticism look @ Conway Twitty.

  • @GTCooper223  If he wouldnt have such high standards, there would not be great Parkening etc.

  • @GTCooper223 I think he came off that way sometimes but I think he was really just trying to bring out the best in his students. After all, if he was really an egotistical jerk, he probably wouldn't even bother to teach anybody as he would already consider everyone else not worthy

  • @GTCooper223 Si alguien puede ser egoísta ese sería justamente el Gran Andrés Segovia. Y en respuesta a Barrios, parafraseo lo que el Legendario Segovia dijo alguna vez. "En comparación con Ponce y Castelnuovo, él (Barrios) no es un buen compositor para la guitarra".

    Quisiera escuchar a alguien, aunque sea de los menos estudiosos de la guitarra (es decir los adoradores de Barrios), decir que Segovia en comparación con cualquiera no es un buen guitarrista.

  • He was an asshole all his life. It was his habitual way of thinking that made him a cracky bastard. He was a good guitar player and did a lot for the guitar, but that's that.

  • i know! he suported franco the bastard!

    i think chapdelaine is great n if segovia didnt like his playing or fingering well tough. many have surpassed him in all aspects of playing (including interpretation!)

    he was, WAS a great.  there are many many others who aren't so venomous!

  • segovia may be great on classical guitar, but by all accounts he was a horrible man, who supported a fascist dictatorship. He is overated in my opinion, and there is more to life than just playing guitar. Shame he didnt realise that. and also a shame that he beleived himself to be the best - he was too far up himself.

  • a horrible man, haha, you have no soul

  • ¡Menudo coñazo! Eso no es tocar la guitarra ni es música ni es nada. ¿Cómo se puede transformar el arte en algo tan académico? Si parece que está en clase de química...Solo le falta sacar una lupa para examinar la partitura.

    ¡Cómo chochea Andrés Segovia! Menudo teatro tenía montado.

  • Pues el arte es academia

  • Lo que no puede soportar un personaje como Segovia es que el talento artístico se reparte al azar y muchas veces lo poseen personas de humilde condición. Para eso existe el mundo académico para restringir algo tan natural con el la expresión artística.

    Segovia esto lo comprendió desde muy joven. Pero hay gente que llega a viejo sin enterarse jamás.

  • Pues en mi país la academia la pueden tomar hasta los mas pobres, por ejemplo yo mismo no soy una persona pudiente, y tengo acceso a ciertos medios, y conozco a gente brillante que gracias a la educación que tiene han alcanzado una posición social mejor.

  • @007JamesJamon _ jajajaja!!!! como la tenes con Segovia chabon!

  • segovia pesao xD concreto wn!!! jaoaajauaja

  • Segovia needs to be nicer to Mike!

  • beautiful piece...wow

  • those who can play, play...Those who can't ,type caustic comments about those who can

  • Ole, I like that twist, I never believed that old saying about those who can't play teach. Segovia is a great example that those who can play can also teach.

  • LOL

  • Honestly,

    Learn from your teachers take from them their knowledge and take from them all you can.

    Because later on the teachers of the future must hold the same high standards as the ones before them.

  • I had a ticket to see Segovia in my town but he died on me a few weeks before.

  • weak sound and tone.

  • yeah, i guess anyone who was recorded onto a vhs tape 26 years ago won't have a descent tone will they?

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  • i wan't believe that Master die...I want to listen to him........aaaaaaaaaaa I miss Segovia

  • bramblecino: It's the recording....not his playing that's weak

  • what? this guy went way beyond segovia musicaly? what crap

  • Well, I do it all the time.

    Especially on Pre Classical period Spanish music. The art of improvisation has been discouraged by bad teachers but it should be taught. Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart all were skilled improvisers,,so it really is a part of the tradition that has been lost.

  • no matter how good i am i would shit myself from an overdose of honor in front of segovia. wow

  • agree with u bro !!

  • Poor guy is lacking dynamics.

  • Hes trying to teach him nuance....love the notes.

  • Segovia the father of the concert hall as a solo guitarist not the father of the guitar.

  • You could hear the difference in sensitivity after the instruction. Many guitarists forget to give the real length and pause a piece requires to express the emotive content completely. Even at the end of this lesson I still believe Chapdelaine was taking the final cord too quickly. It lost its poetic expressivity.

    There is too much rushing in this world. If nothing else, this sort of piece should make us slow down and take notice of little beauties.

    ~Kaimi

  • people talk about how harsh and arrogant he is as a teacher but i mean cmon. He's human. And humans at that age tend to get a bit stuck in their ways n cranky.

  • The great Alexandre Lagoya said that his tecnhique sound stole the 50% of his technique ,that was for the shake of the music itself.everybody who realize that will understand the realspirit of the guitar

  • we must all critisize ourselves for the bad taste guitarists that they exist out there,noone has a sound of his own they are all clones unfortunately.Segovia tried to teach his style becasue he sensed that time have changed .We are talking about tecnhique,ok try to have the segovia rich sound together with good technique it is impossible.

  • ¿como se llama esta obra?

  • I am not sure, but I would like to know. :)

    ~Kaimi

  • Segovia has no other thought than the way a piece of music ought to sound and he will critize anyone who fails to measure up. Segovia's playing is as flawlwess as his instruction.

  • Segovia was a great Classical player but Chapdelaine was not only able to play Classical but later (on YouTube) he plays all sorts of styles. So, IMO he surpassed Segovia as a musician in the larger sense. Segovia was VERY narrow minded. Segovia was also very abrupt and rude to a friend of mine who came to him in respect. In my book he was a Primadonna. I certainly respect his work but he could be nasty to students.

  • Don't you think he had something to back it up with? like uh.. being the father of the classical guitar??

    He was freggin 93 on this video. I mean seriously have you ever met an old man that wasn't cranky at that age?

  • Segovia did not invent the guitar and music. I know as much about him as anyone having studied him and his music for 30 years. Hell, I even have 78s of him. But a teacher has to respect a student even in their differences. We are not clones.

    In the field of music Chapdelaine surpassed Segovia in ability. Segovia got stuck as an artist, great at what he could do but not nearly as versatile as Chapdelaine.

    And; I am old... and I treat students, esp. those who work hard, better than this.

  • He may've brought the guitar to heights heretofore unknown but I wouldn't say he was the father of the instrument. Too many great ones came before him for that, Sanz, Murcia, Sor, Giuliani, Carulli, Tárrega, & Llobet to name a few players/composers. He would absolutely not've been able to do any of his concertizing w/o the work of Antonio De Torres called father of the modern classical guitar. He was a giant standing on the shoulders of other giants. I agree w/ your age comment though.

  • He was of my great-grandfather's generation. Every old man I ever knew from that generation was erassible, ballsy and very set in their opinions. Segovia had a firm idea of what he wanted to hear and demanded it of those he taught. What some call narrow-minded, I call specialized. He never branched out. He did one thing and one thing only and did it very very very well. Salud, paz y buen día.

  • Better learn the segovia style rather thatn the todays uncaracteristic cold style of all the guitarists.Great guitarists=Segovia,Bream,Lagoy­a,Pepe Romero when you hear them you understand who is playing even if you dont see them ,that is guitar ,today 's playing reminds nothing of a guitar sound ,unfortunately .

  • I agree. Lots of guitarists coming out today sound very dry and their playing lacks character. Technically, they are very good but they don't seem to have the sensitivity you find in the older masters. Probably has to do with their being closer to the romantic school. You see the same thing in violin. Nobody plays like Heifetz anymore.

  • Nobody can play like segovia.Segovia was the true inheritant of the meditarrenean style guitar he combined the magic sound of the cantabile amateur guitarist of a tavern with an unbelievable technique and talent ,musicians like him born every 200 years,guitar is very poor since the death of Andres Segovia ,when he played if even it was Bach you always hear something different and beautiful,he was like a great painter of the past ,too bad some people cannot understand that ,he was so different

  • Segovia fue un egoista total con barrios mangore y eso porque barrios lo superaba facilmente en la ejecucion.busquen por internet una obra de barrios tocada por Segovia. Creo que no la encontraran. Admiro totalmente a Barrios, su humildad, su ejecucion es unica, su genialidad, su patriotismo, sus obras van mas alla de lo clasico. Creo que en señal de respeto Segovia hubiese llevado en su repertorio a "La Catedral", pero su Pedanteria fue mayor que su aprecio para hacerlo.

  • Segovia was a very bad teacher - but the worse are his blind idiotic followers.

  • I have to agree, he was a horrible teacher but a prolific performer and arranger. And that is really the legacy that he's left behind him.

  • asshole

  • um have you seen this guys other videos asshole?

    you can only dream of being a fraction of a musician that Michael is. fuck you.

  • It'd be funny as hell if Chapdelaine smashed the guitar on Segovia's head...

  • Holy $hit, I just spit my soda all over the desk

  • Wonder if segovia ever smiled at a student,pat them on the back or tried to encourage them in any way.Definitely seemed like a my way or the highway type.

  • He was an incredible performer, that isn't synonymous with a great teacher. He may have the skills in playing, but not the people/teaching skills to effectively teach or evaluate.

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  • I agree, it takes talent to teach -- and I think many people don't realize that. Being a teacher, student and performer myself, I understand that they're two completely different worlds that can sometimes meet. That will translate into the pupil learning music, through the heart... not technique just through the fingers.

  • lo que pasa es que el esta tocando algunas notas que no son e interpretando la melodia como no es,el guitarrista esta haciendo unas alteraciones dentro del concepto melodico.atacar mas algunas notas.

  • ahora me acuerdo de papo swing,... lol , yo se lo que tu quieres decir con lo que escribistes, aveces me rio de andres por que le decia a la gente lo que pensaba de ellos sin que le importara la imprecion que tomaran.

  • I can pretty much sum this up with:

    Segovia:"Pues que mierda es esto? Que mierda estas tocando? No suena nada parecido lo mio."

  • Scena deplorevole che fa capire molte cose...

    Segovia si è arriabbiato ... semplicemente perchè ha trovato un allievo che suonava meglio ... di LUI (e che ragionava con la propria testa)

    christian saggese

  • Vero !!!!!

  • Tu in quanto a presunzione,non te la cavi nemmeno male,vero Christian? ^_^

  • MEGLIO DI LUI SUONAVA?AZZ detto da un concertista....

  • Segovia gave many compliments. Parkeing, Ghilgia, Barbera, Reussner and Lorimer(just to name a few) all have been praised by Segovia many times. Segovia was strict, and wanted people to play HIS way. The easiest way to piss him off was to CHANGE HIS GODDAMN FINGERINGS CHAPDELAINE!!! I don't know about you, but I would give anything to have him tell me how to play his way. He is not the most encouraging guy, but to learn from the best can only make one better.

  • i heard that the best part of taking lessons from Segovia was being in his presence. He was a pretty shitty teacher even though he was an amazing artist. He never complimented or encouraged, all he ever did was yell at you when you fucked up.

  • Sometimes its the best way to learn, i was pretty cocky as a young lad,at my first lesson at SR music school so i played some Allans holdsworth and then my teacher turns around a music stand and tells me to play it, so i do, he says play it again as i get my hands in position he says "STOP, why do you have you hands like that" so i said "dunno" and then he lists everything i did wrong when i first played it even petty things (bitting my lip), sure i was a little insulted but i learnt alot.

  • Yep. I had a lesson or two like that. People want their butt kissed all the time these days. Reward the screw-ups seems to be the philosophy. Segovia wasn't like that. If you sucked, you sucked and he told you so.

  • ....er, that would be "Andres." Sorry 'bout that Sr. Segovia. By the way, he is a lot nicer to MC here than in the other video!

  • Wonderful video! Really glad to see this posted. What an opportunuity....to see MC taking a guitar lesson with Andre Segovia!

  • I´d love to be interrupted by this old grumpy man every two notes, I´m sure the guitarrist thought that, see how he is listening to every word.

    Alexandre Tansman wrote this Cavatina for the Segovia (we are listening to the Sarabande), I´m sure he knew what he said, even though he was 93.

    I don´t know where do you get this videos, but I could watch them for days, THANKS!!

  • can anyone send me the scores for this amazing piece? pls./

  • Was Sr. Segovia changing alot of Mr. Chapdelaines's fingerings most of the time he was playing? lol

  • Who's the third wheel?

  • You're an idiot.

  • Whats wrong?

  • que tipo hincha pelotas , no lo deja tocar ni 10 segundos jajaaa

  • Así eran los de esa generación. Bien corajudos y delicados. Mi Vizabuelo era así. Rapidito se enjoaba y te daba un cocotaso si no ponías atención. Que Dios me lo tenga en su memoria. La gente de hoy no aguanta nada. Quieren que le lamban las patas todo el tiempo. Antes, o aprendías o ¡fuera! No andaban con mariconadas.

  • Questo Signore non é un vero Maestro.

  • this is less than a year before he was going to pass away.

  • A beautiful litle piece and so touching and moving to see the old master enjoying himself near the end.

  • Segovia porco grosso (però gli DOBBIAMO voler bene..)

  • Simultanio! I think Tansman would agree. But well done Mr. Chapdelaine.

  • Nevermind its on the other page.

  • Whats the name of this piece.

  • segovia presuntuoso e incapace

  • jajajaja.... oh, pues... es que ya estaba grande aquí, claro que nada le iba a parecer. Sigue siendo un EXCELSIO guitarrista...

  • Segovia was 93 years old at that time!

  • I guess this would be like Einstein checking your physics homework in front of the class

  • Now you guys aren't critizing Segovia? I find it amusing how you were all passing judgement before without seeing the entire picture. I hope you all learned something.

  • No...it's just that the last time I criticized Segovia you would have thought I called for the assassination of the Pope! People's tastes are all different: I hate the way Segovia played as well as his attitude toward contemporary music--others love him. Good for them.

  • I would hate to be constantly interrupted--he must have great powers of concentration. Most teachers let the student finish, then go back and make suggestions.

  • yea Parkening let everyone finish before suggestions were made

  • Parkening is much younger than Segovia! Old folks (I am one) have to speak up and be quick about it! Time's running out!

  • Nobody doubts that MC was a great CG player.

  • This is the second movement"Sarabande" from Tansman's "Cavatina." (1951) Edition Schott: GA165. Edited by Andres Segovia. We have it in stock. Hal Leonard Cross Reference # 49010727.

  • The name of the work played please?

  • Segovia also helped him enormously in the other vid by bringing him low. One must first crouch down before he can spring up to the heights.

  • Segovia have serious problem!

  • Hahaha... yes, unfortunately for us, we all loose a bit of our "mind" as we grow old. Imagine dealing with one of the greatest guitarist... when he is very very old... i can't deal with my grandfather and he is not as old as Segovia in this clip hahahaha..

  • Helped him enourmously in the other vid? LOL If you think that was a worthy "masterclass" you're just another segovia sheep.

  • hey man, dont talk just play

    you can play like segovia?

    you say that is a bad teacher, but your only reference its some small youtube's videos.

    that means you cant play and you don't know a shit about life

  • I dont need to play like segovia to see that he isn't teaching anything worthy to this dude. Humming over the stupid piece and telling him to play a chord plaque instead of arpegio is a "masterclass"? I couldve told him that myself, so it's not my fault you lack criteria and were born a retard. Your reference for life experience are youtube videos? ROFLOL go find a brain moron.

  • I like how you are a nobody who comments shite whereas he is one of the worlds most famous guitarists. Go teach people, noob.

  • Noob.

  • This one is for all the unbelievers out there.

    Great footage. Wonderful playing. Segovia is actually trying to help and they both are getting on very well. Thank you for posting this.

  • Chapedelaine is better than segovia.

  • But the Maestro's sound has more depth and it sounds bigger and louder. I saw him live in Firenze playing the Chaconne and and the sound was like BOOM! Chapedelaine and Parkening may have better technique but its difficult to agree with you that they are neccesarily better than the Masestro.

  • I agree; he went way beyond Segovia musically because he was open to more than just Classical repertoire. Segovia also was not into improvising...and that has been lost to Classical musicians although it was a part of the tradition and done by the greats like Bach, Beethoven and Mozart.

    But music schools almost forbid improv, probably because the teachers are inept at it themselves. I've seen it in the UC Calif. system myself.

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