Yup, Forrest "borrowed" HGLL for "Night Train" (jeez, ya think??), made his pile, made Ellington a little mad, but did nothing to diminish the charm and greatness of the original. There was only one Duke. Swingin'!
To correct old post from MrBosnian78... This recording came from a time when Johnny Hodges and Cootie Williams were not in the band (1954). Alto would have been either Russell Procope or Rick Henderson. Johnny Hodges sound is unmistakable - so even if he was sitting in, you'd know for sure. The trumpet at 1.50 sounds to me like Ray Nance. Besides Cootie, Nance was Ellington's main plunger man on trumpet. The dirty tenor sound is from Jimmy Hamilton - Ashby wasn't in this band either.
To correct old post from MrBosnian78... This recording came from a time when Johnny Hodges and Cootie Williams were not in the band (1954). Alto would have been either Russell Procope or Rick Henderson. Johnny Hodges sound is unmistakable - so even if he was sitting in, you'd know for sure. The trumpet at 1.50 sounds to me like Ray Nance. Besides Cootie, Nance was Ellington's main plunger man on trumpet. The dirty tenor sound is from Jimmy Hamilton - Ashby wasn't in this band either.
This album "Ellington '55" is where I cut my Duke teeth when I was in HS (early '70s). Not a bad place to start. Then I discovered the 1940 version of the band. Wow!
THE ORIGIN OF "NIGHT TRAIN"....LISTEN NEAR THE END...JIMMY FOREST MAY HAVE BEEN IN HIS ORCHESTRA AND WENT ON TO HAVE A HIT WITH IT...THEN BUDDY MORROW....AND JAMES BROWN
by this time already, Duke was king of odd sounds like the whistle, thank you, great song. Provided the bases for Jimmy Forrest's "Night Train", but Buddy Morrow's was the greatest recording of Night Train.
"Happy Go Lucky Local" was part of the Deep South Suite that Duke wrote about 1946. Jimmy Forrest was on the band for a short time after that, and he found it convenient to "borrow" the main theme FROM Duke. Duke was irked, but as he so often did, moved on to new things. Kurt.
Listen Sometimes too Day Break Express based on the song Tiger Rag.Duke Loved Trains he stated many a night the sound of the train against the tracks put him too sleep.This song Happy Go Lucky Local became the basis for a Rhytmn and Blues hit for James Brown Night Train.
This is INCREDIBLE!! Thank you so much for posting it! So many of Ellington's premier sidemen were aboard (no pun intended!) for this recording. Duke's band didn't sound like a train in this...rather they BECAME a train!
Just listen to screech trumpeter par excellence Cat Anderson playing the part of the train whistle up in the super-altissimo register!! Mind blowing!!
I mean is this really from 54, the quality is just unearthly good, thank you!
alexjrmarino 1 month ago
i like the version by the enoch light orchestra!
MyFlare123 3 months ago
Yup, Forrest "borrowed" HGLL for "Night Train" (jeez, ya think??), made his pile, made Ellington a little mad, but did nothing to diminish the charm and greatness of the original. There was only one Duke. Swingin'!
kurtarmbruster 8 months ago
Ellington's 1944-1949 musical enclave was the finest Jazz ensemble ever established.
Easleytee 8 months ago
To correct old post from MrBosnian78... This recording came from a time when Johnny Hodges and Cootie Williams were not in the band (1954). Alto would have been either Russell Procope or Rick Henderson. Johnny Hodges sound is unmistakable - so even if he was sitting in, you'd know for sure. The trumpet at 1.50 sounds to me like Ray Nance. Besides Cootie, Nance was Ellington's main plunger man on trumpet. The dirty tenor sound is from Jimmy Hamilton - Ashby wasn't in this band either.
MrJohnpiano 9 months ago
To correct old post from MrBosnian78... This recording came from a time when Johnny Hodges and Cootie Williams were not in the band (1954). Alto would have been either Russell Procope or Rick Henderson. Johnny Hodges sound is unmistakable - so even if he was sitting in, you'd know for sure. The trumpet at 1.50 sounds to me like Ray Nance. Besides Cootie, Nance was Ellington's main plunger man on trumpet. The dirty tenor sound is from Jimmy Hamilton - Ashby wasn't in this band either.
MrJohnpiano 9 months ago
This album "Ellington '55" is where I cut my Duke teeth when I was in HS (early '70s). Not a bad place to start. Then I discovered the 1940 version of the band. Wow!
MrJohnpiano 9 months ago
THE ORIGIN OF "NIGHT TRAIN"....LISTEN NEAR THE END...JIMMY FOREST MAY HAVE BEEN IN HIS ORCHESTRA AND WENT ON TO HAVE A HIT WITH IT...THEN BUDDY MORROW....AND JAMES BROWN
7734Duke 11 months ago
omg! i had to come here, i lost this tune on the cd i bought and then...i lost it also on mi ipod. this is the only way.
2047alvi 1 year ago
Duke's version of this tune on the 1963 Paris Concert album is positively stunning!
pooperscoopr69 1 year ago
The Duke...legend
jakepenetrate 2 years ago 2
wow!
it sounds six years ahead of its time
Prodigy502 2 years ago
Lovely arrangement
OscarPetersonFan 2 years ago
by this time already, Duke was king of odd sounds like the whistle, thank you, great song. Provided the bases for Jimmy Forrest's "Night Train", but Buddy Morrow's was the greatest recording of Night Train.
TayAP1234 2 years ago
Beautiful photo! Any dates and lineup details please? 3.25 Ben Webster? 4.26 Jimmy Hamilton
4.48 Cat Anderson (who else?)
jazzfanjohn 2 years ago
@jazzfanjohn
0.52 Hodges
1.50 Cootie
2.07 Carney
2.22 Hodges
3.15 Harold Ashby
MrBosnian78 1 year ago
@MrBosnian78
If it was recorded in 1954, it won't be Harold Ashby on tenor. Probably Jimmy Hamilton before switching to clarinet for his solo.
baritonebree 11 months ago
"Happy Go Lucky Local" was part of the Deep South Suite that Duke wrote about 1946. Jimmy Forrest was on the band for a short time after that, and he found it convenient to "borrow" the main theme FROM Duke. Duke was irked, but as he so often did, moved on to new things. Kurt.
kurtarmbruster 3 years ago 2
@kurtarmbruster You got it right, Kurt...kudos! This has "Ellington" written all over it, before Jimmy, as you so charitably note, "borrowed" it.
tyoonz 2 years ago 2
Duke "out-Minguses" Mingus on this amazing
track!
BlockChordsRed 3 years ago 7
@BlockChordsRed lol. I saw Mingus on video tune up his bass by ear with no reference note. now I tell people to "Mingus their bass.
keyzcity 1 year ago
Listen Sometimes too Day Break Express based on the song Tiger Rag.Duke Loved Trains he stated many a night the sound of the train against the tracks put him too sleep.This song Happy Go Lucky Local became the basis for a Rhytmn and Blues hit for James Brown Night Train.
hremdldw 3 years ago 2
night was written in 1952 by jimmy forrest and is inspired in this composition
posaico 3 years ago
God damn, Cat that one hell of a train whistle for yah
smoothbv 3 years ago
Sounded more like the brakes squeaking coming into the station! LOL
davisc1926 2 years ago
This is INCREDIBLE!! Thank you so much for posting it! So many of Ellington's premier sidemen were aboard (no pun intended!) for this recording. Duke's band didn't sound like a train in this...rather they BECAME a train!
Just listen to screech trumpeter par excellence Cat Anderson playing the part of the train whistle up in the super-altissimo register!! Mind blowing!!
tyoonz 3 years ago 4
And thank you!
caoamarelo 3 years ago
Yellow dog,
Cê num tem as imagens aí não, cara?
sergioew 4 years ago