Actually, IMO books contain information the same way DNA does. A book contains ink on paper forming certain shapes put together in certain ways gives meaning when a human mind looks at it. It's the same with DNA, DNA is just a bunch of molecules that behaves in a certain way that is only meaningful as information when a human mind interprets it as such.
Where is the evidence for any of this? if you want to make allegations, you must back them up with proof. You are blatantly misrepresenting the Catholic view point. Here is an idea: bring an "expert" in whatever brand of theism you want to refute and put YOUR info to the test against whet they have to say.
being baligernt and arrogant does nto make you right. There is no real substance to any of your arguments. you rely on intimidation to get your points across instead of reason and lodgic.
The fact is, is that the Church DID do these things. Taking focus off the Church and deflecting responsibility and accountability is a typical Christian tactic. Change the subject and say "I know you are but what am I" type reasoning. The priests actions and how the church handled it was horrible. No matter what anybody else in history has done is irrelevant, this happened and needs to be addressed, not covered up.
@prodprod that's true, but the Church makes claims of the divine. The Church and it's clergy live by the rules of their omnipotent God. They, by divine right are not supposed to be committing these crimes. Following Jesus is their whole reason for living. They try to insert their power and morality into Govt, schools and law of people who are not religious and stand behind the righteous authority of God. Other groups are moot. You're saying "well, everybody else is doing it, so what's the probl
While I certainly don't in any way support the Church's handling of this whole mess, it's naive to suggest that secular organizations necessarily handle this stuff any better. There is a natural tendency within any power-based entity that has any ability to police itself, to use that power to "handle things internally" - that is, to cover it up. We see that in the military, in corporations, in hospitals, in governments - where ever there is power and wrongdoing, there will be lies and cover-ups.
oh my god, Matt you have to drop the pen again and be like "this is physics, DNA works in the same way, it's just a bunch dominos falling and hitting each other, that's all that's happening." because he doesn't fucking know what it means when you say "it's a causal relationship". That is too abstract.
38:20 to 40:22 Matt has no real argument for keeping a label for not believing in a god(s). He gives a weak example for wanting to be called an atheist. It doesn't take long to say "I don't believe in god." Just being honest, the word atheist is unecessary. You can still have a position for not believing in supernatural things and still have a group or movement for keeping the government secular and having fairness for people who don't believe in a god and who don't want religion in their lives.
@CoreyfromEarth It takes even less time to say "I believe in God." Does that mean, under your argument, that we should just get rid of the word theist? Of course not! Labels are useful communication tools. No need to read into it too much in my opinion.
@dopeasfuckk I agree even if god were true I still wouldn't worship a serial killer who condones slavery. Did you know god kills around 2 million people in the bible but Satan kills about two and that was only because god told him to. As far as I'm concerned god has released his book talking bad about Satan but Satan hasn't even been able to tell his side of the story.
even if these perverted fairy tales turned out being true, id still tell god to go fuck himself.. the devil wouldn't punish gods enemies if the fairy tales about him are also true. i feel retarded just pretending they're true... grow up.
(Fox News) The mainstream media has all but ignored the recent Associated Press report that the 3 major insurance companies for Protestant Churches in America say they typically receive 260 reports each year of minors being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, staff, or other church-related relationships.'
260 Protestant Incidents VS 9 in the Catholic Church!
But Prots are Jew friendly. US Kosher media is selective.
You subconscious pick up details which your conscious overlooked, which means you got the information of something but your mind couldn't present it to your consciousness, hence you got a gut feeling about something. psychology 101.
@O2BSoLucky don needs to stop over-simplifying shit. he talks about the same thing forever and ever and ever and ever. other than that he's great. i thought aron ra dwelled on the same subject for too long but don takes the cake.
To put it into perspective, you can get the same feeling from buying an Apple product, or getting something you are REALLY excited for. The feeling is called 'awe'.
we atheist need a holiday all of us need to stop celebrating a zombies birthday in the depressing winter cold when the he was apparently born in the summer anyway? We all need to drive down to Austin on that day and have a big atheist-apolooza! and show these retarded christians that we are a minority but one with a voice and that we do NOT agree with 90% of their political issues. Atheist FTW!
the kiwi caller reminds me of something the president of atheist ireland (or some similarly named organisation) said. To paraphrase;
"In an ideal world, atheism would be like not collecting stamps, and there are no organisations for not collecting stamps. But in the real world, atheism is like not collecting stamps in a society where almost everybody collect stamps, and believes that the post office created the universe"
My mom is Catholic and she is convinced that the problem of pedophilia in the church is just a conspiracy theory that the media cooked up. She thinks that if there is any truth to it, it's been blown way out of proportion.
I've tried talking to her about it, but she never listens to me when I question anything related to Christianity.
Well, it probably has been blown up - to a certain extent.
But the problem is not that the issue's been exaggerated. The problem is that the catholic church tried actively to *cover it up*, no matter how small the problem might have been.
After a while if you're not paying attention and they are just talking their words begin to collide together and I just go to sleep. Works better than any med that I've ever been on in my life haha.
It's really revealing to see how often examples of supposed extrasensory perception or spiritual experiences or whatever are actually something as mundane as unconscious processing, like intuition for instance. People really don't give the brain enough credit for what it can accomplish without our consciousness being involved.
Of course there's also the danger of trusting the output of your unconscious processes too much.
There are two gods. You guys are god of patience. I can hardly listen to stupid arguments, demagogy tricks, half learned crooked scientific claims, subject skipping and you do not understand blame game of callers. You actually sincerely listen to them and try to help them understand, Congratulations and thank you for your great work.
From "I know people that know what's going to happen 100% of the time" to, "Oh, I didn't mean one HUNDRED percent of the time"
The more credulous, religious types that are constantly feed this stuff probably would have accepted the first claim without question. The fact that the hosts are smart enough not to accept it and only THEN did the caller rephrase, shows how intentionally dishonst the claim was to begin with.
@AntitheistPOV story of my life - sincerely michael from pocatello. Btw the girl who i took a second look at mormonism for: turns out shes over me... ya just found out yesterday... im going down to austin sometime next week just to shake Matts hand. To every doubting Atheist: dont doubt... religion is as stupid as it sounds and pussy isnt a good reason to forsake reason. Just saying
Matt's own wife Beth was one of those annoying phoney callers who 'acted christian' on a call, and they thought it was cute when she did it. Glad to see they are stopping the practice. Loved the take on catholic pedophiles, btw, excellent insights.
I dont believe in intelligent design, but I did find cesar's last point about how matt's analogy of the hand made clock's gears to information transferred and copied went straight into intelligent design interesting. What would be a better analogy for describing this?
i'd just like to point out that this show has been running for 737 episodes and not once have they been proven wrong nor have their arguments ever shown to be anything but completely sound every single time.
Is religion ever going to take a back seat and fade away or are the religious people really that drunk on their stupid faith?
@amnfoliver Judging by his slow drawn out speech and monotone voice, not to mention his complete lack of understanding of pretty much everything, I'd have to agree with you.
Oh Dear! Get Don Baker off! He's completely rubbish. What's with the lame delivery of dubious ruminations? Some discussion might be interesting but this format sucks. WTF? It's hilarious how obvious it is that MD can't stand the guy :)
Hate to say it, but this was a bad intro. That diatribe at the beginning about the Catholic church, while I agree with it, was too long winded. Please continue doing what you do, just cut it in half please.
Near death experiences are not hooey, they are the brain coping with a sever loss of oxygen. The same thing happens to people who train to be astronauts. It's not supernatural, but it's not a complete fraud either.
@Jonstern1983 By hooey, they're talking about it being used as evidence of an afterlife. The claim that near death experiences are evidence for the afterlife, IS hooey. Cesar has called in several times before, and stated NDE's are a main reason he believes in god, which the hosts find absurd, and I highly agree.
Maybe I should try showing off my skills to James Randy. I have the uncanny ability to choose the best thing on the menu at any restaurant. It's accurate about 95% of the time.
to the mormon convert with the prayer thing, at about halfway in: dude: mormonism was started by a convicted fraudster, who conned women into "marrying" him... and husbands into giving up their wives, and 10% of their income. Mormonism is an obvious fraud. like obvious. and any "revelation" gained in support of Mormonism can ONLY cost you, in the end. Hopefully sooner, cuz it's possible to recover, then.
I loved the answer to the tree best reasons to believe. 1.Universe isn't finely tuned 2. No evidence that Jesus existed 3.Near death experiences are false. I laughed out loud. It continues to amaze me that someone still believes that religion tells the truth even when they are obviously thinking about these things.
Euphoria is medically recognized as a mental and emotional condition in which a person experiences intense feelings of well-being, elation, happiness, ecstasy, excitement and joy.
Euphoria is experienced by everyone including me an atheist.
@joshafool Yep and in case your wondering the girl that caused me to take another look at religion... is over me... glad i never reconverted and i completely see what you are saying to be true now. Just an FYI in case you are wondering: pussy isnt a good reason to forsake reason.
I think a country could rid itself almost entirely of religion within a few decades if only they increased funding for education. I think education has to be the most important social issue. If teachers were much better paid and much better trained, the benefits would trickle down through society more than anything else. The last caller, Cesar, is obviously severely lacking a decent education.
That information discussion at the end was funny. Its a failing of language that when scientists use certain phrases people add the properties of the common definitions of those phrases to the terms the scientists are using.
A quantum mechanic would say that matter is information. He is not talking about what most people understand information to be.
The same thing happens in math when you try and explain imaginary numbers and so on.
the people that brought me the bible raped,murdered/hung,enslaved,oppressed,slandered,humiliated (ect.) my people all while believing in Christ and he nor God rebuked them for it,i love the bible SO SO much even though if i were caught reading it back in the day those good white christians wouldve cut off my genitals stuffed them in my mouth and hung me for it..
Cesar is a moron, not because he is a moron but because he has asked these questions before and they were addressed then yet he learned absolutely nothing from those answers. He maintained his beliefs regardless of the logic that reveals they are wrong. He WANTs to believe regardless of the reality of his beliefs.
I label myself an antidogmatist first. I reject any dogma whether it holds within a god-belief or not. I'm also an agnostic atheist, but presenting myself as an antidogmatic tells more of my position than label atheist, and shows right off the bat how ridiculous those Stalinistic communism, North-Korea, Hitler and Pol Pot -arguments are. Those are clearly a result of another dogma, and I reject them too.
I believe in debate, rational thinking, rational discussion, and making informed decisions.
@DackIsBack How might I go about getting a copy of the Bible? (This might sound like a really stupid question) I've got a copy on my e-book reader on my phone but I prefer reading physical book. Do I have to buy it? :S Coz I don't wanna do that.
Matter is only information in the presence of a mind. This is why DNA is referred to as information and not because it speaks or writes. By the way some animals are self aware and they are not eternal
I have never heard a single illogical argument from an atheist. They always make sense to me. Their observations are plainly intelligent, objective, and always challenging in the best sense of that word. Matt and John are awesome and they get you to think if you will only open your mind and "LISTEN".
@barthburger lol yeah at this point it seems that way. If they're failing at anything it's trying to hide their true intentions. Look at all these waterfalls that are failing to fall upwards....... no...that's not...
I love do, I really, really do love Don, but both he AND Jeff, actually, oh, and Martin does it too much as well, but saying "Right" after almost EVERY FUCKING SENTENCE is so damned annoying to me. The laughing, too. Don has this nervous laughter tick that irks, too. They, those two ticks sometimes nigs so much I just forward through him or skip that episode all together. Silly, I know , but I can't help those things he does annoy the shit outta me.
@christallh24 yeah I think it's partly that Matt is such a good critical thinker, debater, and communicator that whatever they have to offer is diminished by comparison to him. I think people are understandably over cautious and nervous around him because he mercilessly demolishes anything less than accurate u might say. That said Don, Jen, Martin, and Tracie (not so much Jeff) seem to be somewhat non-assertive people who've never developed much of a public speaking presence.
Man, Ceasar is stupid. He called in talking about the whole information in the DNA thing before and got told the exact same thing Matt said. He just doesn't want to listen which is evident by how many times he misunderstands what Matt is saying because he only picks up bits and pieces because he is too busy thinking about his next point to spew out or talking when he should be listening.
we say there is Information in DNA so that we can say to other people this is the "information" that is in this DNA , it is descriptive, It is just a word that we can use to convey or communicate to other people lol just WOW , like i said smoke another Blunt Cesar and please don't reproduce.
the "information has no matter" is a "lost in language" argument.
do the words "the" , "and" or "is" have any matter?
You Cesar latch onto a nice big word like "information" because it is a sort of descriptive word with a lil bit of gravitas but it is all just part of a man made language.
@spinynorman1982 look up chris "the hacker" perrone on youtube, he legitimately called into the show one time to give his retardo tin foil hat theories. but he also happens to live in the hometown of the legendary prank call victim Frank "Duncan Construction" Garret so pranksters started calling his "DatBoys" shop leading to all kinds of crazy shit going down, pretty hilarious.
I think the reason I don't like the word 'atheist' is because I don't see an 'atheist movement' where I live. Similarly, the term 'brights' is ludicrous. When I was at school, a rural school in the north of England, most of the kids there didn't believe in god. Most of them were complete idiots, who had put no thought into the question. But since they hadn't been brainwashed by parents, they saw ideas of gods with an objective view (i.e., fairy tales).
The Monty Hall problem is the closes I can get to what I would almost call a miracle. Three doors, one with a prize. You choose one and then the game show host shows you a door that dose not have the prize and asks you if you want to switch. Most dont, but the odds of getting the prize is actually allot larger IF you actually swap even if it seems like the odds are 50/50.
@Lobos222 You can see how this works by considering more doors. Lets say you have 1,000,000 doors, and the host asks you to pick 1. He then reveals 999,998 other doors, and asks you if you want to switch to the one remaining door. Your first pick was 1 in a million -- that does not change even once the losing doors are opened, but since the host has eliminated 999,998 other doors, the only remaining door _must_ have a 999,999 in a million chance (i.e. very likely) to be the winning door.
I know its a mathematical problem, but if you set it up right it looks like "rational magic". Thats why I think its the closest you can get to a "miracle". One could argue magic shows did the same, but its not, in my eyes, "rational magic" to see someone saw a person in half or walk through a solid wall etc because its counter rational to someone with the smallest sense of common physics sense.
@Lobos222 Fair enough. It certainly is counterintuitive and plays with our expectations like a magic show does, but I don't know if I would call it a miracle.
@Lobos222 I love that problem. I play with my step-daughter with a soft ball and three cups. When I tell the story at work nobody believes me that the odds are 2 out of three if they switch.
Information is information. At least from one perspective, there is no difference between DNA and a book. DNA is simply the way that nature has "figured out" how to store information about life over time.
This is absolutely not proof or even evidence of a god or gods. This is evidence that matter can store information, and that over time, the complexity of that information can increase through natural means.
@sachamm No, its not like a book, unless the book would be filled with garbage. There is no synstax in DNA or sentence or anything that makes it a langauge. It is missing lots of things that come from langauge. So the book example does not work. Unless someone scribbled a book with random letters and sometimes the letters are a word.
@NathanWubs Except that DNA is not garbage, nor is it random. It is a set of information, just as the book is a set of information. Agreed, you can't read it in the same way, and there is no syntax or semantics in the same way a language has syntax or semantics, but they are both information in a general sense.
@sachamm Information is to much of a vague term ,that can be put on anything, so does not help. And sorry a lot of our DNA is garbage, unnecessary and not needed. This is because of evolution and random mutation and genetic drift. Natural Selection of course is the process of evolution is non-random, which makes sure that the DNA that is worthwhile stays in the gene pool. But there is plenty of garbage in it.
The book is not just a set of information, no book that I ever read.
@NathanWubs _All_ DNA is information. _Some_ of that information codes for proteins (this is the part of DNA that you seem to think is the only part that has any value), but even though some DNA doesn't appear to "do" anything, it is still information. In fact, that "junk" DNA is one of the tools we have to study our genetic heritage. If that "garbage" didn't exist, we would know less about ourselves.
"Information" might be a vague term to you, but that doesn't make my assertion any less valid.
@sachamm Some of the Junk DNA has always been Junk DNA, never said it was not useful for anything though, you just assumed that.
Your assertion is invalid, because the comparison with a book is the wrong one. Only if you want to keep it to the vague term of information. Then you can compare it to anything though. ((Slippery slope Fallacy is what you are making) So have your party, it does not matter to me. debated something that is not worth debating with you long enough.
@sachamm *facepalm* here I thought theist were the only stupid ones, then again when I look at Pat Condell I know I am wrong. Now looking at you I know I am wrong too.
@NathanWubs LOL I love how when someone is unable to follow an argument, they automatically revert to insults. The great thing is that my argument is sound, so you are just publicly making yourself look like an uneducated fool. Of course the spelling and grammatical mistakes you make don't help in that regard, but I was at least willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Go back to McDonalds, your intellectual skills will be a good fit there.
@sachamm Sorry to butt in on your fight with some other guy but I couldn't help but noticed that you said these two statements in the SAME COMMENT!
"I love how when someone is unable to follow an argument, they automatically revert to insults.......Go back to McDonalds, your intellectual skills will be a good fit there"
@sachamm We call Dna, Dna as well because information is always a vague term, as anything can be information. Look the sky is blue. I just gave you some information.
Dna is nothing like a book, not even a scientific book with diagrams and what not. Unless there would be once again a lot of garbage in that book, that could just not be used or even read. Hench Junk DNA
The systematic sexual-abuse by clergy within the Roman-Catholic Church (which has gone on for who knows how long) is yet another reason why I am no longer Catholic, or even a Theist of any kind.
Actually, IMO books contain information the same way DNA does. A book contains ink on paper forming certain shapes put together in certain ways gives meaning when a human mind looks at it. It's the same with DNA, DNA is just a bunch of molecules that behaves in a certain way that is only meaningful as information when a human mind interprets it as such.
SacredSoul1990 3 days ago
Poe's Law.
Vinzaf 6 days ago
Where is the evidence for any of this? if you want to make allegations, you must back them up with proof. You are blatantly misrepresenting the Catholic view point. Here is an idea: bring an "expert" in whatever brand of theism you want to refute and put YOUR info to the test against whet they have to say.
cheesemonkey1990 1 week ago
being baligernt and arrogant does nto make you right. There is no real substance to any of your arguments. you rely on intimidation to get your points across instead of reason and lodgic.
cheesemonkey1990 1 week ago
12 dislikes thats pretty ironic, wonder if they're ancestral relatives to that jesus guys posse
1ND1FF3R3NC3 2 weeks ago
The fact is, is that the Church DID do these things. Taking focus off the Church and deflecting responsibility and accountability is a typical Christian tactic. Change the subject and say "I know you are but what am I" type reasoning. The priests actions and how the church handled it was horrible. No matter what anybody else in history has done is irrelevant, this happened and needs to be addressed, not covered up.
paramattic70 2 weeks ago
@prodprod that's true, but the Church makes claims of the divine. The Church and it's clergy live by the rules of their omnipotent God. They, by divine right are not supposed to be committing these crimes. Following Jesus is their whole reason for living. They try to insert their power and morality into Govt, schools and law of people who are not religious and stand behind the righteous authority of God. Other groups are moot. You're saying "well, everybody else is doing it, so what's the probl
paramattic70 2 weeks ago
While I certainly don't in any way support the Church's handling of this whole mess, it's naive to suggest that secular organizations necessarily handle this stuff any better. There is a natural tendency within any power-based entity that has any ability to police itself, to use that power to "handle things internally" - that is, to cover it up. We see that in the military, in corporations, in hospitals, in governments - where ever there is power and wrongdoing, there will be lies and cover-ups.
prodprod 3 weeks ago
Religious people just like preying on kids because everyone else bullies them.
dopeasfuckk 4 weeks ago
intro song makes me testicles shrink everytime. that shit is horrible.
dopeasfuckk 4 weeks ago
oh my god, Matt you have to drop the pen again and be like "this is physics, DNA works in the same way, it's just a bunch dominos falling and hitting each other, that's all that's happening." because he doesn't fucking know what it means when you say "it's a causal relationship". That is too abstract.
GuacamoleKun 1 month ago
you guys are awesome
dubdefuje 1 month ago
Dawkins talks about DNA as a programming language. It is a set of instructions.
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@jamespiperca set of instructions? even if they were, they aren't instructions from some iron age god.
1984LizardKing 1 month ago
@1984LizardKing Who says that's the case? Certainly not me.
jamespiperca 1 month ago
@1984LizardKing Why did you reply? He was quote mining to begin with.
Gameguy602 4 weeks ago
@Gameguy602 why did you reply? no one gives a shit lol
1984LizardKing 4 weeks ago
38:20 to 40:22 Matt has no real argument for keeping a label for not believing in a god(s). He gives a weak example for wanting to be called an atheist. It doesn't take long to say "I don't believe in god." Just being honest, the word atheist is unecessary. You can still have a position for not believing in supernatural things and still have a group or movement for keeping the government secular and having fairness for people who don't believe in a god and who don't want religion in their lives.
CoreyfromEarth 1 month ago
@CoreyfromEarth It takes even less time to say "I believe in God." Does that mean, under your argument, that we should just get rid of the word theist? Of course not! Labels are useful communication tools. No need to read into it too much in my opinion.
MrPianoJames 1 month ago
@MrPianoJames The word atheist is empty. It has no content.
CoreyfromEarth 1 month ago
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@CoreyfromEarth Atheist means to not believe there is a God, that is its content.
MrPianoJames 1 month ago
I feel bad for Cesar. I'm afraid he doesn't have the brain capacity to comprehend simple arguments.
xoloxum 1 month ago
@xoloxum
I dont feel bad for Caesar because he ISN'T stupid. He's just:
1. intellectually dishonest
2. too lazy to find learn about what he chooses to discuss
3. too much of a fucking stubborn child to admit he is wrong.
Fuck Caesar & everyone like him.
88Keyz101 1 month ago
@BigerFaterTony kiitos, yes im Finnish :) im glad hosts are so inspirational personalitys and do actually know about this stuff.. a lot.
FlinckJanne1981 1 month ago
what is person called, if he dont believe in religion, but believes in god? and what is teist?.
FlinckJanne1981 1 month ago
@dopeasfuckk I agree even if god were true I still wouldn't worship a serial killer who condones slavery. Did you know god kills around 2 million people in the bible but Satan kills about two and that was only because god told him to. As far as I'm concerned god has released his book talking bad about Satan but Satan hasn't even been able to tell his side of the story.
kelson2828 1 month ago
@kelson2828 when the flood of noah is included with an appropriate approximation it jumps to 24 million.
satanisthetruegod666 1 month ago
even if these perverted fairy tales turned out being true, id still tell god to go fuck himself.. the devil wouldn't punish gods enemies if the fairy tales about him are also true. i feel retarded just pretending they're true... grow up.
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
How did the church keep away criminal investigations? the cops rolled up and they were told jesus was already on the case?
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
Sexual Abuse of Minors in Protestant Churches
By Jonathan Morris
(Fox News) The mainstream media has all but ignored the recent Associated Press report that the 3 major insurance companies for Protestant Churches in America say they typically receive 260 reports each year of minors being sexually abused by Protestant clergy, staff, or other church-related relationships.'
260 Protestant Incidents VS 9 in the Catholic Church!
But Prots are Jew friendly. US Kosher media is selective.
StSimonMartyr 1 month ago
this show would be a million times better with a proper intro/ a song that doesn't make my testicles want to throw up
dopeasfuckk 1 month ago
You should have told the last caller to google DNA. Lot's of sites which explains it all in a manner he should understand, if not give up on him. :((
wizardaim 1 month ago
You subconscious pick up details which your conscious overlooked, which means you got the information of something but your mind couldn't present it to your consciousness, hence you got a gut feeling about something. psychology 101.
wizardaim 1 month ago
Matt is right about the prank calls...but that fake Richard Dawkins was hilarious.
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Cesar must be the typical Christian living in N.Y.
CaptCamping 2 months ago
Cesar is an idiot.
ArkanumFour 2 months ago
I really like Don Baker.
Don, if you read this by any chance, this random person appreciates you!
O2BSoLucky 2 months ago
@O2BSoLucky don needs to stop over-simplifying shit. he talks about the same thing forever and ever and ever and ever. other than that he's great. i thought aron ra dwelled on the same subject for too long but don takes the cake.
DivineCypher 2 months ago
To put it into perspective, you can get the same feeling from buying an Apple product, or getting something you are REALLY excited for. The feeling is called 'awe'.
Vinzaf 2 months ago
9:03 to be fair his daugters did booze him up untill he was pretty damn tipsy.. which would have been easy considering he had just lost his wife...
if anything i think this story is designed to show women as wanton hussies to reinfors male shovenist ideas.
ZerqTM 2 months ago
no sé ingles :((((((((((((((((
60133791 2 months ago
@60133791 hay muchos capitulos con subtitulos...
maximilianitoaguirre 2 months ago
@maximilianitoaguirre gracias, ya los encontre jeje
60133791 2 months ago
@A1pha2R3d rofl i live in columbus ohio its only a 4 day drive lolololol
cam45m51 2 months ago
7 child molesting priests disliked this video
akayourmommasdaddy 2 months ago
we atheist need a holiday all of us need to stop celebrating a zombies birthday in the depressing winter cold when the he was apparently born in the summer anyway? We all need to drive down to Austin on that day and have a big atheist-apolooza! and show these retarded christians that we are a minority but one with a voice and that we do NOT agree with 90% of their political issues. Atheist FTW!
cam45m51 2 months ago 3
the kiwi caller reminds me of something the president of atheist ireland (or some similarly named organisation) said. To paraphrase;
"In an ideal world, atheism would be like not collecting stamps, and there are no organisations for not collecting stamps. But in the real world, atheism is like not collecting stamps in a society where almost everybody collect stamps, and believes that the post office created the universe"
triangl 2 months ago
My mom is Catholic and she is convinced that the problem of pedophilia in the church is just a conspiracy theory that the media cooked up. She thinks that if there is any truth to it, it's been blown way out of proportion.
I've tried talking to her about it, but she never listens to me when I question anything related to Christianity.
that1weirdkid27 2 months ago
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« it's been blown way out of proportion »
Well, it probably has been blown up - to a certain extent.
But the problem is not that the issue's been exaggerated. The problem is that the catholic church tried actively to *cover it up*, no matter how small the problem might have been.
XGralgrathor 2 months ago
i go to bed with atheist experience. :)
jacktala1 2 months ago 21
Me too!
After a while if you're not paying attention and they are just talking their words begin to collide together and I just go to sleep. Works better than any med that I've ever been on in my life haha.
ScarsFTW 3 weeks ago
Some times they say that kids imagined that event!
Peristerygr 2 months ago
They start the show at 6:34
SinnFein4ever 2 months ago 32
It's really revealing to see how often examples of supposed extrasensory perception or spiritual experiences or whatever are actually something as mundane as unconscious processing, like intuition for instance. People really don't give the brain enough credit for what it can accomplish without our consciousness being involved.
Of course there's also the danger of trusting the output of your unconscious processes too much.
ObakeOnna 2 months ago
What is the difference between a priest and a pimple? A pimple waits until you are 13 before cumming on your face XD
SocraticFox 2 months ago 4
@SocraticFox That is just sick and wrong. I love it.
LadyRose1985 2 months ago
@LadyRose1985
A kid at a Lutheran church got touched by the gospel. When he went to a cathedral he got touched by a priest and a nun saw it and had a queef.
SocraticFox 2 months ago
There are two gods. You guys are god of patience. I can hardly listen to stupid arguments, demagogy tricks, half learned crooked scientific claims, subject skipping and you do not understand blame game of callers. You actually sincerely listen to them and try to help them understand, Congratulations and thank you for your great work.
felistigris 2 months ago
From "I know people that know what's going to happen 100% of the time" to, "Oh, I didn't mean one HUNDRED percent of the time"
The more credulous, religious types that are constantly feed this stuff probably would have accepted the first claim without question. The fact that the hosts are smart enough not to accept it and only THEN did the caller rephrase, shows how intentionally dishonst the claim was to begin with.
AntitheistPOV 2 months ago
@AntitheistPOV story of my life - sincerely michael from pocatello. Btw the girl who i took a second look at mormonism for: turns out shes over me... ya just found out yesterday... im going down to austin sometime next week just to shake Matts hand. To every doubting Atheist: dont doubt... religion is as stupid as it sounds and pussy isnt a good reason to forsake reason. Just saying
TheMagicSandwichist 2 weeks ago
Matt's own wife Beth was one of those annoying phoney callers who 'acted christian' on a call, and they thought it was cute when she did it. Glad to see they are stopping the practice. Loved the take on catholic pedophiles, btw, excellent insights.
montyollie 2 months ago
I dont believe in intelligent design, but I did find cesar's last point about how matt's analogy of the hand made clock's gears to information transferred and copied went straight into intelligent design interesting. What would be a better analogy for describing this?
MArtinezNINux 2 months ago
I had a Near Life Experience, once. No shens.
Draginvry2 2 months ago
Onwards Atheist soldiers....
;)
GalaxyShift 2 months ago
i'd just like to point out that this show has been running for 737 episodes and not once have they been proven wrong nor have their arguments ever shown to be anything but completely sound every single time.
Is religion ever going to take a back seat and fade away or are the religious people really that drunk on their stupid faith?
What more do these people need?
leptismagna10 2 months ago
@leptismagna10 *plugs ears* LALALALALALALAALALALALLALA
Account4TheMusic 2 months ago
That guy Cesar has called in before, I really think he's retarded or mentally handicapped. I don't know why the screeners can't recognize his voice.
amnfoliver 2 months ago
@amnfoliver Judging by his slow drawn out speech and monotone voice, not to mention his complete lack of understanding of pretty much everything, I'd have to agree with you.
brogin 2 months ago
Oh Dear! Get Don Baker off! He's completely rubbish. What's with the lame delivery of dubious ruminations? Some discussion might be interesting but this format sucks. WTF? It's hilarious how obvious it is that MD can't stand the guy :)
InvisiblePinkSoylent 2 months ago
I would say Caesar has a shamefully and embarassingly low ratio of verbosity/content, but you can't divide by zero.
gatorboymike 2 months ago
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DNA a language. A language does not require a mind.
rocketmagnet 2 months ago
20:35-20:41
YES!
It's about TIME Ireland began shaking itself loose from the Roman-Catholic Church.
Hopefully, they'll do the same to the Church of England, as well.
Ireland has waited far too long, to be free.
Peace and unilty will come to Ireland, when religion leaves.
SinnFein4ever 2 months ago
Hate to say it, but this was a bad intro. That diatribe at the beginning about the Catholic church, while I agree with it, was too long winded. Please continue doing what you do, just cut it in half please.
jojogonzo 2 months ago
The original broadcast abruptly cut off several minutes before the end of the show. Why did this happen?
sweetsweatyfeet 2 months ago
This is the first NZ caller I've seen on the show and I'm proud to note how well he comported and expressed himself. Kia ora Dean.
GypsyLeah 2 months ago
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How the hell do they get away with this shit.
krapptacular 2 months ago
Near death experiences are not hooey, they are the brain coping with a sever loss of oxygen. The same thing happens to people who train to be astronauts. It's not supernatural, but it's not a complete fraud either.
Jonstern1983 2 months ago
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@Jonstern1983
"Near death experiences are not hooey"
Varies from case to case, some are brain reactions as you say, some are blatant fruad....to claim them as supernatual is "complete hooey" however
whiteowl1415 2 months ago
@Jonstern1983 By hooey, they're talking about it being used as evidence of an afterlife. The claim that near death experiences are evidence for the afterlife, IS hooey. Cesar has called in several times before, and stated NDE's are a main reason he believes in god, which the hosts find absurd, and I highly agree.
BigLundi 2 months ago
@BigLundi Oh, NDEs as proof of anything other than the brain's amazing capabilities is hooey. I completely agree with that.
Jonstern1983 2 months ago
Im an atheist as well as an erotic shaman.
Yeah..... It's possible.
GalaxyShift 2 months ago
@GalaxyShift there are worse things a person could be
TheMagicSandwichist 2 months ago
Maybe I should try showing off my skills to James Randy. I have the uncanny ability to choose the best thing on the menu at any restaurant. It's accurate about 95% of the time.
Jonstern1983 2 months ago
What that Mormon guy didn't say was that the two women on the other end of the line sounded like they were cumming.
Jonstern1983 2 months ago
to the mormon convert with the prayer thing, at about halfway in: dude: mormonism was started by a convicted fraudster, who conned women into "marrying" him... and husbands into giving up their wives, and 10% of their income. Mormonism is an obvious fraud. like obvious. and any "revelation" gained in support of Mormonism can ONLY cost you, in the end. Hopefully sooner, cuz it's possible to recover, then.
lilgrasshoppah 2 months ago
The church is dying, look at the age of the priest anf the nuns.
bubblebutt1950 2 months ago
I loved the answer to the tree best reasons to believe. 1.Universe isn't finely tuned 2. No evidence that Jesus existed 3.Near death experiences are false. I laughed out loud. It continues to amaze me that someone still believes that religion tells the truth even when they are obviously thinking about these things.
Erholts 2 months ago
I always enjoy the show, very informative.
bubblebutt1950 2 months ago
Euphoria is medically recognized as a mental and emotional condition in which a person experiences intense feelings of well-being, elation, happiness, ecstasy, excitement and joy.
Euphoria is experienced by everyone including me an atheist.
joshafool 2 months ago
@joshafool Yep and in case your wondering the girl that caused me to take another look at religion... is over me... glad i never reconverted and i completely see what you are saying to be true now. Just an FYI in case you are wondering: pussy isnt a good reason to forsake reason.
TheMagicSandwichist 2 weeks ago
I think a country could rid itself almost entirely of religion within a few decades if only they increased funding for education. I think education has to be the most important social issue. If teachers were much better paid and much better trained, the benefits would trickle down through society more than anything else. The last caller, Cesar, is obviously severely lacking a decent education.
urcritic 2 months ago 30
That information discussion at the end was funny. Its a failing of language that when scientists use certain phrases people add the properties of the common definitions of those phrases to the terms the scientists are using.
A quantum mechanic would say that matter is information. He is not talking about what most people understand information to be.
The same thing happens in math when you try and explain imaginary numbers and so on.
Silentsam7532 2 months ago
excellent show, especially ol matt, you are quite intelligent sir and i greatly appreciate all that you guys do. cheers from san diego
jeremyshambles 2 months ago
the people that brought me the bible raped,murdered/hung,enslaved,oppressed,slandered,humiliated (ect.) my people all while believing in Christ and he nor God rebuked them for it,i love the bible SO SO much even though if i were caught reading it back in the day those good white christians wouldve cut off my genitals stuffed them in my mouth and hung me for it..
Constellashun 2 months ago
Oh Cesar....
GetTheCans 3 months ago
There IS a word for people who don't believe in unicorns. Called a "realist". Works for all sorts of things.
brainfullametal 3 months ago
Cesar is a moron, not because he is a moron but because he has asked these questions before and they were addressed then yet he learned absolutely nothing from those answers. He maintained his beliefs regardless of the logic that reveals they are wrong. He WANTs to believe regardless of the reality of his beliefs.
Relativisticism 3 months ago
@Relativisticism "food stamps hidden in work boots" come to mind :)
alexhamster1134 3 months ago
I label myself an antidogmatist first. I reject any dogma whether it holds within a god-belief or not. I'm also an agnostic atheist, but presenting myself as an antidogmatic tells more of my position than label atheist, and shows right off the bat how ridiculous those Stalinistic communism, North-Korea, Hitler and Pol Pot -arguments are. Those are clearly a result of another dogma, and I reject them too.
I believe in debate, rational thinking, rational discussion, and making informed decisions.
Mornys 3 months ago 28
@Mornys hear hear.
gwprod1 2 months ago
@Mornys Please, candidate for Presidency. Please. We need this.
DasHinchen 2 months ago
The bible was created to enslave the poor and to give them false hope
Jerman81 3 months ago
Matt's rant will just invite more prank calls.
lestliness 3 months ago
Cesar for president.
thefusilier1000 3 months ago
Don't fill in a form to order a "free book of Mormon" in the UK...
They just visit you, and don't give you the book... :'(
DackIsBack 3 months ago
@DackIsBack How might I go about getting a copy of the Bible? (This might sound like a really stupid question) I've got a copy on my e-book reader on my phone but I prefer reading physical book. Do I have to buy it? :S Coz I don't wanna do that.
LavLTC 3 months ago
@LavLTC Library dude! All the books for free.
MrG0TH1ER 3 months ago
@MrG0TH1ER LOL right, I feel stupid now - in these times of e-book readers and Amazon, I forget about the libraries!
LavLTC 3 months ago
@LavLTC Go to any church and they'll give you one. I've got several :) They're all too happy to give them away...
Rox1SMF 3 months ago
@DackIsBack I would love them to visit me. I would talk for hours (or until they run away).
MrG0TH1ER 3 months ago
Matter is only information in the presence of a mind. This is why DNA is referred to as information and not because it speaks or writes. By the way some animals are self aware and they are not eternal
reggieharris20 3 months ago
Cesar please go play in traffic, we don't need you.
skippydeenice 3 months ago
I fucking love Matt, you can see his passion for truth on his face and hear it in his voice when he talks. He is a true hero for humanity.
skippydeenice 3 months ago 3
Matt Dillahunty for President.
RapLegendsRelapse 3 months ago 46
@RapLegendsRelapse Reason and logic for president ;)
horbergus 2 months ago
@RapLegendsRelapse Can we have him as Prime Minister of England too?
666armarda 2 months ago
@666armarda Screw president and prime minster lets just have Matt just rule the world.
RapLegendsRelapse 2 months ago
violent agreement blah blah blah I agree "kapow" I agree "take that". We agree so much lets hospitalise each other?
way2jaded1 3 months ago
Cesar needs to watch the video by OneSpecies on the topics of DNA /= information...then again, maybe it wouldn't help anyway.
SIberian0Hamster 3 months ago
I have never heard a single illogical argument from an atheist. They always make sense to me. Their observations are plainly intelligent, objective, and always challenging in the best sense of that word. Matt and John are awesome and they get you to think if you will only open your mind and "LISTEN".
MrAnthonyVance 3 months ago
I would pay to sit in a theatre JUST to listen to Matt Dillahunty speak.
chuckwagon1645 3 months ago 2
Shouldn't the title read, "Catholic Pedophilia Success?" Just a thought.
barthburger 3 months ago 25
@barthburger lol yeah at this point it seems that way. If they're failing at anything it's trying to hide their true intentions. Look at all these waterfalls that are failing to fall upwards....... no...that's not...
kyebean 3 months ago
I love do, I really, really do love Don, but both he AND Jeff, actually, oh, and Martin does it too much as well, but saying "Right" after almost EVERY FUCKING SENTENCE is so damned annoying to me. The laughing, too. Don has this nervous laughter tick that irks, too. They, those two ticks sometimes nigs so much I just forward through him or skip that episode all together. Silly, I know , but I can't help those things he does annoy the shit outta me.
christallh24 3 months ago
@christallh24 yeah I think it's partly that Matt is such a good critical thinker, debater, and communicator that whatever they have to offer is diminished by comparison to him. I think people are understandably over cautious and nervous around him because he mercilessly demolishes anything less than accurate u might say. That said Don, Jen, Martin, and Tracie (not so much Jeff) seem to be somewhat non-assertive people who've never developed much of a public speaking presence.
kyebean 3 months ago
I guess what Ceasar was trying to say that the information in the DNA is a language, and that's not true at all.
tazer95 3 months ago
Man, Ceasar is stupid. He called in talking about the whole information in the DNA thing before and got told the exact same thing Matt said. He just doesn't want to listen which is evident by how many times he misunderstands what Matt is saying because he only picks up bits and pieces because he is too busy thinking about his next point to spew out or talking when he should be listening.
xynth101088 3 months ago
we say there is Information in DNA so that we can say to other people this is the "information" that is in this DNA , it is descriptive, It is just a word that we can use to convey or communicate to other people lol just WOW , like i said smoke another Blunt Cesar and please don't reproduce.
LogicalStatements1 3 months ago
the "information has no matter" is a "lost in language" argument.
do the words "the" , "and" or "is" have any matter?
You Cesar latch onto a nice big word like "information" because it is a sort of descriptive word with a lil bit of gravitas but it is all just part of a man made language.
LogicalStatements1 3 months ago
Cesar smoke another blunt and go back to la la land.
LogicalStatements1 3 months ago
22:41 - I swear I thought he said "I was raised a woman".
nejtilsvampe 3 months ago
Heh Lot was intoxicated, and his daughters raped him in the Bible.
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
ugh the phrase "beg the question" was fail xD
lazerbeam134 3 months ago
I'm a big Howard Stern fan, but I wonder if those prank calls were Sal and Richard or just fans of Stern?
spinynorman1982 3 months ago
@spinynorman1982 look up chris "the hacker" perrone on youtube, he legitimately called into the show one time to give his retardo tin foil hat theories. but he also happens to live in the hometown of the legendary prank call victim Frank "Duncan Construction" Garret so pranksters started calling his "DatBoys" shop leading to all kinds of crazy shit going down, pretty hilarious.
kyebean 3 months ago
I think the reason I don't like the word 'atheist' is because I don't see an 'atheist movement' where I live. Similarly, the term 'brights' is ludicrous. When I was at school, a rural school in the north of England, most of the kids there didn't believe in god. Most of them were complete idiots, who had put no thought into the question. But since they hadn't been brainwashed by parents, they saw ideas of gods with an objective view (i.e., fairy tales).
Webofscience 3 months ago
@Webofscience It doesn't actually take much thought or intelligence to conclude that the 'god who cares' hypothesis is bullshit.
Webofscience 3 months ago
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@Webofscience It doesn't actually take much thought or intelligence to conclude that the 'god who cares' hypothesis is bullshit.
Webofscience 3 months ago
The Monty Hall problem is the closes I can get to what I would almost call a miracle. Three doors, one with a prize. You choose one and then the game show host shows you a door that dose not have the prize and asks you if you want to switch. Most dont, but the odds of getting the prize is actually allot larger IF you actually swap even if it seems like the odds are 50/50.
Lobos222 3 months ago
@Lobos222 You can see how this works by considering more doors. Lets say you have 1,000,000 doors, and the host asks you to pick 1. He then reveals 999,998 other doors, and asks you if you want to switch to the one remaining door. Your first pick was 1 in a million -- that does not change even once the losing doors are opened, but since the host has eliminated 999,998 other doors, the only remaining door _must_ have a 999,999 in a million chance (i.e. very likely) to be the winning door.
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm
I know its a mathematical problem, but if you set it up right it looks like "rational magic". Thats why I think its the closest you can get to a "miracle". One could argue magic shows did the same, but its not, in my eyes, "rational magic" to see someone saw a person in half or walk through a solid wall etc because its counter rational to someone with the smallest sense of common physics sense.
Lobos222 3 months ago
@Lobos222 Fair enough. It certainly is counterintuitive and plays with our expectations like a magic show does, but I don't know if I would call it a miracle.
sachamm 3 months ago
@Lobos222 I love that problem. I play with my step-daughter with a soft ball and three cups. When I tell the story at work nobody believes me that the odds are 2 out of three if they switch.
spinynorman1982 3 months ago
Cheapens miracle... Thats a dig at the Star wars "force" and midichlorians right? :)
Lobos222 3 months ago
Information is information. At least from one perspective, there is no difference between DNA and a book. DNA is simply the way that nature has "figured out" how to store information about life over time.
This is absolutely not proof or even evidence of a god or gods. This is evidence that matter can store information, and that over time, the complexity of that information can increase through natural means.
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm No, its not like a book, unless the book would be filled with garbage. There is no synstax in DNA or sentence or anything that makes it a langauge. It is missing lots of things that come from langauge. So the book example does not work. Unless someone scribbled a book with random letters and sometimes the letters are a word.
NathanWubs 3 months ago
@NathanWubs Except that DNA is not garbage, nor is it random. It is a set of information, just as the book is a set of information. Agreed, you can't read it in the same way, and there is no syntax or semantics in the same way a language has syntax or semantics, but they are both information in a general sense.
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm Information is to much of a vague term ,that can be put on anything, so does not help. And sorry a lot of our DNA is garbage, unnecessary and not needed. This is because of evolution and random mutation and genetic drift. Natural Selection of course is the process of evolution is non-random, which makes sure that the DNA that is worthwhile stays in the gene pool. But there is plenty of garbage in it.
The book is not just a set of information, no book that I ever read.
NathanWubs 3 months ago
@NathanWubs _All_ DNA is information. _Some_ of that information codes for proteins (this is the part of DNA that you seem to think is the only part that has any value), but even though some DNA doesn't appear to "do" anything, it is still information. In fact, that "junk" DNA is one of the tools we have to study our genetic heritage. If that "garbage" didn't exist, we would know less about ourselves.
"Information" might be a vague term to you, but that doesn't make my assertion any less valid.
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm Some of the Junk DNA has always been Junk DNA, never said it was not useful for anything though, you just assumed that.
Your assertion is invalid, because the comparison with a book is the wrong one. Only if you want to keep it to the vague term of information. Then you can compare it to anything though. ((Slippery slope Fallacy is what you are making) So have your party, it does not matter to me. debated something that is not worth debating with you long enough.
NathanWubs 3 months ago
@NathanWubs DNA is a mechanism to store information, just as a book is a mechanism to store information.
I can code the contents of a book into DNA (this has already been done).
Similarly, I can write the contents of a DNA strand into a book (this has also been done).
From the perspective of information, you can see that there is no difference between a DNA strand and a book.
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm *facepalm* here I thought theist were the only stupid ones, then again when I look at Pat Condell I know I am wrong. Now looking at you I know I am wrong too.
NathanWubs 3 months ago
@NathanWubs LOL I love how when someone is unable to follow an argument, they automatically revert to insults. The great thing is that my argument is sound, so you are just publicly making yourself look like an uneducated fool. Of course the spelling and grammatical mistakes you make don't help in that regard, but I was at least willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.
Go back to McDonalds, your intellectual skills will be a good fit there.
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm Sorry to butt in on your fight with some other guy but I couldn't help but noticed that you said these two statements in the SAME COMMENT!
"I love how when someone is unable to follow an argument, they automatically revert to insults.......Go back to McDonalds, your intellectual skills will be a good fit there"
Projection much?
TheLuckySaGe 3 months ago
@sachamm We call Dna, Dna as well because information is always a vague term, as anything can be information. Look the sky is blue. I just gave you some information.
Dna is nothing like a book, not even a scientific book with diagrams and what not. Unless there would be once again a lot of garbage in that book, that could just not be used or even read. Hench Junk DNA
NathanWubs 3 months ago
Cesar sounds like that guy that only has half a head. At least that guy has an excuse.
-_-
Leadman1989 3 months ago
The systematic sexual-abuse by clergy within the Roman-Catholic Church (which has gone on for who knows how long) is yet another reason why I am no longer Catholic, or even a Theist of any kind.
SinnFein4ever 3 months ago
First time ever that I subscribe to anything on youtube and signed in just to comment....because I love this show!
MsGabz11 3 months ago
Show starts around 6:30, first caller at 22:20
sachamm 3 months ago
@sachamm
Thanks!
:)
SinnFein4ever 3 months ago
its like talking to a small child lol
RockWilINeverDie 3 months ago
How does a rock know which way is down? It doesn't but it still falls down. Just like DNA replicating, there is no language just physical properties.
RubenJuanTrinidad 3 months ago
Religios Dogma + Internet = Dead Religion =)
andysim232 3 months ago 29
@andysim232 Nothing worse for a religion than information, lol.
xynth101088 3 months ago
@andysim232 What is Religios Dogma?
bttrflykiss7701 3 months ago
@bttrflykiss7701 would you like to buy a vowel?
TheBeesKneeofJustice 3 months ago
@TheBeesKneeofJustice Would you like to read the post that I was replying to and then redirect your question?
bttrflykiss7701 3 months ago