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  • All these ovechkin dickriders are bagging Wayne because he lost the fight but their hero Alexis gets his vagina handed to him every time he fights hahaha

  • You guys are stupid saying Gretzky is a pussy just cuz he lost that fight ummm I didn't see him run away like a coward so what made him look like a pussy all I saw was him taking the punches like a man

  • Niether Orr or Lemiuex could hold a candle to Messier. Just give it up.

  • @DonCarne LMFAO

  • maybe he should stick with scoring goals

  • probably gave his team some momentum though, eh? eh?

  • thank god he was a better plqayer than he was a fighter

  • i don't get it crosby is the new gretzkey as people say but they never called the great #99 a pussy. Well i think gretzkey taught crosby how to. Then there is lemieux...

  • @OriginalKlutch only morons say cosby is the new gretzky 

  • I missed that. Was it the mussing of the hair that dropped Gretzky?!?

  • who the hell is neal broten?

  • @Boog2200 part of the miracle on ice squad and then played for the north stars and dallas stars and later won a stanley cup with the new jersey devils.

  • he got owned!

  • Lots of good players like Lemuiex, Gretzky, Yzerman and Messier. They all have something in common, they cant fight

  • @DUDE245269 i pretty musch agree

  • Ovechkin is the new great one!!cno he doesn't have a 200pt season but the goalies are 100x better now than they were back then...ovechkin can do it all everything and obviously Gretzky can't fight lol

  • HIS WIFE FIGHTS BETTER

  • raped

  • Now in this fight, it wasnt all Gretzky's fault. Once Gretzky dropped the gloves, Broten shoved his gloves in his face and covered his face.

  • plus what about defense?the ability to play on both sides of the puck is what truly makes a great player. Gretzky was a defensive liability always.On top of that. the guy didnt have a shot.he couldnt score on the breakaway. he couldnt hit. couldnt play D. Lemieux at one point was probably the best defensive player in the entire league. Gretzky never once in his careere carried a mediocre team to a cup.he always had a great supporting cast. Lemieux had garbage for so many years that he carried.

  • ROFLmuffins lemieux sucked

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  • lol the refs relized it was gretzgy and jumped in pretty fast. too bad i would of liked to see how that one would of turned out.

  • It's not a matter of getting his ass kicked you still gotta give the man props for droppin the mits when he probobly knew he would get beat

  • @Hangem11 I don't think he KNEW he was going to get beat. He probably had an idea though. lol. I'm sure thats the last time he fucked with Broten

  • gretyky got owned

  • yeah... i agree... he cant fight

  • You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about. This is from The Hockey Encyclopedia: "+/- ratings are calculated by giving a player a + when he's on the ice for an even-strength or shorthanded goal scored by his team, and a - when he's on the ice for an even-strength or shorthanded goal allowed by his team. The total is his +/- rating. For years coaches and managers had argued that G, A, and Pts did not provide an adequate picture of a player's performance...

  • continued... "especially in the case of high scorers who played little defense. For such players the number of goals scored against his team while he is on the ice could outweigh his scoring contributions. The keeping of such statistics began in the 60s and was recognized as an official statistic in the 67-68 season." +/- stats demonstrate that Orr's offensive AND defensive contributions make him a superior player to Gretzky, who, unlike Orr, had serious defensive limitations.

  • The fact of the matter is Gretzky is the best hockey player on earth and the records display that better than anyone else can say about him. If Howe or Orr were so good then why did Gretzky beat all their records? It wasn't luck it was talent you don't have to be a good fighter in order to be a good player its just extra. Gretzky had other players to beat on fuckers like Broten so he didn't have to. Some of Gretzky's records will never get beaten.

  • Duh! Orr's career was tragically cut short by horrific knee injuries. He was also a defenseman who's primary job was preventing goals. His career +/- stats dwarf those of Gretzky. Gretzky, by the way, had a +/- BELOW ZERO SEVEN TIMES in his career. Despite his points, he was on the ice for more goals against than for. What's so great about that? Call Gretzky the greatest one-way player in history, but as a complete player, he's behind Orr and Howe. They played both ends of the rink.

  • The points don't lie asshole nobody we beat gretzky in points, goals, or assists EVER!

  • What good is it averaging 150 points if the other team outscores your team when you're on the ice? Orr may have "only" averaged 100 points, but the Bruins were rarely scored against when he was out there. Orr more than made up for the point difference by taking guys out, blocking shots and breaking up plays in his own end. Gretzky was incapable of doing any of that. Orr's defensive contribution was enormous. Gretzky's was non-existant.

  • Wow retard you obviously haven't seen Gretzky play very often he is the master of the ice. He knows where the puck is going to be. And Orr was a defenseman!!!!! Gretzky was a Center. A defensemans job is to break up plays and prevent scoring.

  • Wrong! Everybody's job is to do their part in preventing the other team from scoring. I'm not arguing that Gretzky wasn't a brilliant offensive player. He was incredible. But he didn't apply himself defensively, which is half the game. He scored 130 points and was still a -25. That's terrible. How many goals did the other team score when Gretzky was on the ice? He was nowhere near the all round player Orr was. I'll say it again: He was the best one-way player in history.

  • Your an idiot you cannot expect anyone, even Orr to play an all around game its impossible. Gretzky, Orr, Howe, Lemiuex, Crosby, or anyone else could not play an all around game. It just won't happen. Orr was good and in my opinion he is the best Defenseman that ever played the game. He was probably 2nd only to Gretzky. And why do you think that Gretzky's number was retired league wide in 1999? Because he was the best.

  • Let's see: Orr won 8 straight Norris trophies while winning 2 scoring titles (the seasons he didn't win he was 2nd to teammate Esposito.) He was the greatest powerplay quarterback of all time, as well as being the best penalty killer I've ever seen. Most of his offense began with plays he broke up in his own end. He hit, fought and blocked shots while being the game's best offensive player. His +/- stats are far ahead of any other player, ever. I'd say that's an "all round" player.

  • You obviously base everything off of +/- ratings which isn't everything! That doesn't solely determine how good you are. They base +/- by past seasons. So if expectations are high then it is harder to get good ratings. Now if you have one really good season your good ratings go up. In the world of hockey the best player is based on goals, points, and assists. Not by +/-. I think many people are jealous because of Gretzky's talent. And hey who couldn't be?

  • Remember, Orr was criticized for not taking care of his own zone at times. Not every Bobby-rush turned into a goal. I guess that makes him a one-way-player too, by your definition, of course.

  • hey buddie, you obviously dont play hockey do you? Gretz. may not have played defence, but his offence more than made up for it, if not then how do you explain multiple seasons of having over 200 pts? as well i think you should know the +/- is called a "stretch goal" meaning its not important at all, it doesnt make or break a player, assists are more important than goals and gretzky proved that, gretz is the best, all around and ofencive, he doesnt need defence

  • you explain it with smaller pads, longer defensemen pants and an unwritten rule that kept anyone from touching Gretzky. Lemieux owns Gretzky.

  • Even if Mario Lemieux played the same amount of games as Gretzky, he'd still be at a lower points per game average. Gretzky had 1.9 and lemieux had 1.88

  • you mean to tell me had a dominate player like Mario not played in 572 less games then he wouldn't have had that higher average? thats just ignorance. Gretzky's numbers were inflated due to the era in which he played. When he piled up his 200pt season defencemen could barely skate because of their pants. Goalies looked like plucked chicken in net and butterfly style didnt even exist. Not to mention the fact that he had a rule league wide protecting his weasel ass from getting hit.

  • Gretzky No. 1 end of story.

    There's Gretzky...then there's the rest.

  • @WeTrustChrist There's also Lemieux.

  • @WeTrustChrist no its bobby orr -1.... then gretzky who barely beats lemiuex. you could argue lemiuex as 2 but injuries screwed his career and all hockey fans of the great things he could have done (even tho he did still do incredible shit) after that its opinion and whether you favor defense or offense and what era

  • How about four cups and six trips to the finals? Those Canada Cup titles were pretty special too. Anyone can break life down into multiple shades of gray in order to control the argument and conversation but the rest of the world knows that Gretz is known as the greatest. He wasn't called The Great One for nothing. What was Bobby's title? I don't think he had one.

  • I was playing around with this boob on an Orr-tribute and your not going to change his mind. He's a wee bit addled.

  • Obviously....

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  • wow..neal broten that's a tough customer...he still got his ass kicked lol

  • This is why Gretzky is NOT the greatest. Howe will always be the greatest, not Orr either. Gretzky was too one dimensional. They call a goal an assist and fight a Gordie How hat trick for a reason. Because he could do all of the better than anyone. Orr can lick my chode!

  • you're a fucking a moron. Gordie was unreal. But to say that shit about Orr. Bobby was the best penalty killer, scorer, passer, playmaker of his time. He also had to fight his way into the league. And oh yah..he played defense.

  • OWNED!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • gretzky sucks mario lemieux all the way babi

  • Broten just a minnesota turd.

  • LOL! The referees stopped the North Stars' player immediately. Can't let Gretzky be a punch bag :| ! :)

  • Gretzsky can't fight at all he sucks

  • Another reason why Orr is the greatest.

  • hahahah gretzky blows at fighting

  • @speier , no..gretzky just blows.

  • @speier Thank you Captain Obvious ...........

  • go gretzy!!!!!!!!!!

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