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  • SWEDEN! :D

  • The Sharpshooter, as done in this video, is different from the Scorpion Deathlock. Either there was a mistake in the spot causing him to have to hold it that way, or Bret got lazy after awhile and just started doing the standard Scorpion Deathlock instead of the modified version.

  • Mitsuo Yoshida who wrestles as Riki Chosu invented the move. Konnan taugh it to Bret, it just happened that out of all the wrestlers there he was the only one who knew the move and Bret wanted to do it. Sting was probably the first in America to use it he got it from Mitsuo though and called it the "Scorpion Deathlock." Mitsuo calls it the Sasori–Gatame.

  • He stole it from Sting.

  • @neomysterio no man Riki Chōshū created it

  • And noone's considered that each athlete - working in two different promotions - developed the move on their own? Or at least discovered it?

  • I prefer sting to use itthan hart...looks cool/good execution when sting does it

  • faken liar konan taught u bret

  • Uh......Riki Chosu created the sharpshooter. It's actually called the Scorpion Toe Hold I believe.

  • @TheForgottenFlesh Scorpion Deathlock or something. anyways i dont think he means to say "he made it up" actuelly.. cuz in an interview i saw, he said some guy in the dressing room showed him how to put it on, and that it was thought to him by some "other guy" (dont remember name) What he is saying here is that he and his father planned out that his finisher should be a "submission move".

  • ARIIBA LA RAZA!!!

  • for anyone who doesnt get it- this video is the character bret hart speaking, who learned the sharpshooter from his father in the dungeon. in reality, wwf executives asked if he knew how to do a scorpion deathlock. he said he could find out. konnan knew, and he showed him. bret came up with the name sharpshooter in a brainstorm session with vince. and bret could care less if people know sting was doing it first.

  • simple. someone asked him if he knew how to do the scorpion deathlock. he didnt so he found out how and vinnie mac brainstormed names with him and they decided on sharpshooter.

  • Bret Hart did'nt invent the Sharpshooter/Scorpion Deathlock. The move was being used for a few years in Japan prior to both Bret & Sting using it. I remember seeing Mr. Saito use it in the 80s.

    Personally, I always thought that the Sharpshooter was a stupid name for it.

  • Konan taught him it

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  • liar sting was doing it before bret

  • well everybody on here is its nice to finally see a posting where everybody has some good knowledge of what there talking about but yes a japan wrestler made this hold up and sting made it famous in the 80s and bret did it in the 90s but owen hart to me did it best cause he stuck his arm in there to make it even tighter but most moves come from the japan wrestlers look up the great muta and see where the rock got the peoples elbow and where the backflip off the top rope comes from muta made alot

  • Sting was the first man to win a world title with it.

  • Due to the fact that Bret wrestled in the WWE people all around the globe actually paid attention to his move. So although you may think that everyone in the world knows who Sting is--I would have to say that you would be mistaken. The only non WWE superstar that has ever been known by people around the globe is Ric Flair.

  • I was just reading on WIkipedia that a Japanese wrestler by the name of Riki Chōshū. Interestingly enough Bret wasn't the first to use the move in the former WWF/now WWE. Rugged Ronny Garvin and Terry Taylor aka The Red Rooster did it before he did. Bret is probably the one that has made the move the most popular.

  • Sorry Stingers not even Sting made it as popular as Bret Hart. Why? Because WWE is more mainstream than WCW or any other wrestling organization ever will be. I remember when they would announce on the national news whether or not Hulk Hogan won or lost a match. WWE superstars have been on Saturday Night Live skits and commercials. They have even been in movies. Sure other non WWE superstars have been in movies, but no one ever recognized them.

  • Riki Chōshū made the move if you dont belive me look at wikipedia

  • I don't know if Sting created the Sharpshooter. I'm under the impression it was created by Japanese wrestlers. Yes, on the dvd, he said Konnan showed him that move. Someone told me Stu knew about it, taught it to Bret but wasn't apart of his moves, but Konnan re-introduced him to it as a finisher. I don't know what to think but yes, I'm under the impression Japanese wrestlers created the Sharpshooter/Scorpion Death Lock submission hold.

  • i agree with that statement 100% i was hoping someone would bring up what he said on his dvd

  • thats a lie. bret said in his dvd and his book that he learned the scorpion deathlock (sharpshooter) from konnan in a locker room back in the 80's.

  • yes, and konnan learned it from sting, who created the move, and the original is the best by far

  • Sting didn't create the move. That I'm SURE of.

  • i watched his DVD and didn't see anything like that.

  • well he might have two DVD's, because he's definitely said that, search for video's of this nature and you will see numerous comments stating that bret admitted that he didnt come up with the move, sting did, sorry but its true, sting barely even acknowledges the sharpshooter, instead when he describes his move he says its "kind of like a figure 4, but i turn them around and it targets the back aswell" because he knows that he came up with the move, so he doesnt say its like the sharpshooter

  • sting didnt create it, it was created by a japanese wrestler(forgot his name) who called it the scorpion hold. Sting was the first to do it in america though. BTW bret's looks better then stings(in my opinion) because sting only uses one hand and doesn't look as devestating. Plus bret got it right every time.

  • Possible, I can accept that, but I can't accept people saying that bret hart created it, and I don't think hart's is better, It looks more locked in sure, but it doesn't look as impressive or as powerful, I dunno, Hart's has no movement, it's boring, sting gets the crowd involved and everything, personal opinion though.

  • @LuckiLove87 On the bonus section Bret admits that Konnan showed him how to do the Sharpshooter. I don't know how far back the move has been used, but Sting was using the move long before Bret was a singles wrestler.

  • @thestinger101 Whoa buddy. Calm down. There is no way in hell that Sting created the move - his is just a variation of the sharpshooter in the first place... even he will admit that. I'm pretty sure that Stu Hart had more to do with creating this move than even Bret did. Stu Hart was a mat wrestling genius and trained A LOT of guys. You're the moron if you don't believe that.

  • @thestinger101 It was actually created in Japan. But you are right about Sting being one of the first to use it in the US... one other guy used it as well.

  • @thestinger101 Riki Chōshū created the Sasori–Gatame so you are so wrong

  • well,back in the 80's,Sting use the sharpsoother since 1987,Bret when was in Japan with Dinamite Kid did't use that finishing move...

  • @LuckiLove87 dude Riki Chōshū who created the move he called it Sasori–Gatame it's Scorpion Hold in English AKA cloverleaf leg-lace, Boston crab, standing inverted figure four leglock, Scorpion Deathlock and the SHARPSHOOTER

  • Riki Chōshū created during the 70's in japan, Sting was the first known wrestler outside of Japan to use it.

  • I can accept that, and thanks, i believe that. Sting wouldn't have taken the idea from Japanese wrestling though, for Sting never would have watched Japanese wrestling, he had no idea about the WWF or WcW until he was drafted by Jerry Jarrett sometime in the 80's. Then it was about 2 months into his career as Flash Borden that he used it, so i think its just a coincidence, i seriously doubt that Sting "stole" it from the Japanese.

  • @thestinger101 it was created by Riki Chōshū not Sting

  • @KillerMJ  Even after the future WCW gave Sting that finisher from Choshu, he still used his previous pet move, the Stinger Splash, as a setup move for it.

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