Rightfully divide the word of God. Moses father in law was called a Kenite because he was living in the land of Kenites. He was kenite by location not by nationality. Satan and Kenites often uses the same tactics you do. confusion. This can be done by by omiting common sense. This is the answer to only one of your questiosn so far.. Stay tuned...
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Cain was Adams son.
Adam "knew" Eve (that means they has sex) she conceived (that means she got pregnant) she bare Cain (that means she had the baby, she conceived with Adam).... 'nough said.
This moron knows nothing about scripture. He totally avoids the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance definition of the Kenites. The Kenites were never killed because God ordered them not to be killed when the mark was placed upon Cain. God said to mark them, but do not kill them.
WHAT A FOOL! You use the internet for a reliable source for scripture study? You should be ashamed! Try using the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, O minister of Satan.
Thank you Brother!!! This is nothing more and nothing less than the same garbage the Mormons used for their discrimination of the Negros, a claim, based upon nothing.
THIS is a great example of why I hate the willy-nilly use of the title 'christian'. So many say they are, and purposely refuse to read the Bible, yet open claim they HAVE read it.
to claim that any race is literally and physically descended from satan is racist nonsense. I had forgotten that there are bigots out there who want to demonize any race. the sin of eden was not sex but disobedience, to call a person a son ofsatan is not to claim that satan was his literal grandfather, only that he is like satan morally speaking.
so this is a good video exposing racist bigotry posing as bible scholarship
@Strefanasha Ever heard of the Niphilim? They took the daughters of Adam as wives, and bore offspring. Satan was the leader of the Nephilim, for he was the same as them.
Also look at what Jesus said here: 34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
The reason David or anyone else didnt kill off the Kenites is written in Matthew 13 in the parable of the Wheat and the Tares. It specifies that the tares are the children of the Wicked one. If you gather the Tares (or destroy them ) you may aslo root up the wheat (the good seed). Also like you said...they were working with the Levites in the Temple. Thats how they made their way to take over the church. Many times Jesus called the Pharisees offspring of the devil. Such as Matt.23:29-39
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Once this sin was committed, their eyes were open to wickedness, but closed to truth. Think on this! Jesus told us to learn the "parable of the fig tree" in three of the gospels. This warning is given in Matthew 24:32, Mark 13:28, and Luke 21:29; yet most churches of today are completely ignoring God's warning, and following after fairy tales the Kenites are teaching them.
Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, SCRIBES and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
Jeremiah 35:6 But they said, We will drink no wine: for Jonadab the son of Rechab our father commanded us, saying, Ye shall drink no wine, [neither] ye, nor your sons for ever.
1 Chronicles 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, [and] Suchathites. These [are] the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
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Respond to this video... rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of satan, which they say they are jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, i will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that i have loved thee. this is the kenites. That was christ in his own words. Do you dare to challenge that , do some research. did you know 96% of the worlds media is owned by people who claim to be jews
We know that Jesus was speaking of Cain that we just read about in Genesis 4:8 and 9, Where did all this corruptness begin? It began with with Cain's father Satan, and Jesus knew it and spoke it; "When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he [Satan] is a liar, and the father of it [lies]". The Devil, [Satan] is the father of Cain, who is the father of the Kenites
We know that Jesus was speaking of Cain that we just read about in Genesis 4:8 and 9, Where did all this corruptness begin? It began with with Cain's father Satan, and Jesus knew it and spoke it; "When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he [Satan] is a liar, and the father of it [lies]". The Devil, [Satan] is the father of Cain, who is the father of the Kenites
@duchesseagle404 lets get real literal seed sperma as it pretains to satan huh please look up the word in 1 jn 3 vs nineand tell me what that word seed means there as it pretains to god
@tonyteb Once this sinks into your mind, then you will start to understand the truth that is winding through the entire scriptures. You will see why it was important to the Kenites that you believe a lie, for this lie allows them to virtually take over the duties of the scribes [I Chronicles 2:55]. These Kenites, or sons of Satan, took control of the interpretation of the words that God spoke to His children through the prophets coming out of the Babylonian captivity.
@tonyteb Adam and Eve are in a fig orchard, and not an apple orchard. Do you think that they made apple masks from apple tree leaves to cover their mouths? How silly can you get! Yet this is the type of ignorance being preached from most pulpits today. Adam and Eve made aprons out of fig leaves to cover their private parts, for their sin was the sex act with Satan
@tonyteb Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."
Go to Strong's Hebrew dictionary, # 7014; "Qayin, Kah'-yin; Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Pal, and of an Oriental tribe:-Cain, Kenite".
John 8:44 "Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of i
"Ye", are the "Kenites" that lived with the tribe of Judah, and called themselves Jews, yet they are the simply the sons of Cain [Kenites]. Jesus addressed them and called them exactly what they are.
Interesting video. You have some facts stated correctly. Some you do not. I take it that this is a debunk toward the teaching of Arnold Murray at Shepherds Chapel. Am I correct?
Kenites are indeed the seedline of Cain, the first murderer. Cain was Satan's child. My spiritual discernment causes me to mark this suppossed know it all commentator. See John 8:44 (follow the subject), 1st John chapter 3, and Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.
This was quite possibly the worst "analysis" of the kenites I've ever seen. The Strong's Concordance even gives you the definition of the kayin. Not good.
first horseman of the apocalypse, the little horn in daniel, man of sin in 2 thess. chapt. 2, the beast with two horns like a lamb but spoke like a dragon in chapter 13 of revelation, all of them mean antichrist, so he was mentioned more than once.
First look at statement in Genesis 6:4: "The Nephilim were on the earth at that time (and even afterwards) How come the descendants of the Nephilim (the Anakim) were around
after the flood?There are even giants mentioned,Og and Sihon,Goliath were they come from?
Again, lets look at Cain the eponymous ancestor of the Kenites , Numbers 24:21-22, which refers to the Kenites by the name of their ancestor Cain. His bloodline obviously did not perish but remained in existence throughout history.
++ "If the flood was global, how did the flood water receded? How did the plants, trees,fresh water fish survived, with the salt water ? Explain how the different races came to be? What about the fact that the Chinese period during the Yao Dynasty ,has no record of a cataclysmic flood. If the flood had been universal, all civilizations would have been destroyed along with their inventions, and civilization would have went back to the Stone Age ..." ++
(1) You have made no allowances for the fact that this great event caused great disturbances to the land masses, and the eruption of lands coming up out of the sea to form mountains and higher levels of land. Also, Genesis 7:11 tells us that waters came from the inside the planet Earth and from the skies:
++ In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, ...
..... the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
(2) You have failed to make allowances that the sea water was not as salty as at the present time. Plants & trees being covered by floods would not wipe out them out completely. It is the same when fire devastates a forest the life returns the trees and plants grow again.
You have also ignored the fact that science says that many fish of the same species are found to live in fresh water and others who reside in salt water. Plus other fish can swim in both.
Quote 1:
++ Many fish species seen on the Barrier Reef as adults actually started their lives in streams and brackish water estuaries (mixed fresh and salt water). The reverse also takes place with some freshwater fish migrating to salt water to breed. .....
..... The freshwater rivers and streams of the Wet Tropics also support a myriad of fauna in addition to fish such as platypus, crayfish, aquatic insects, frog and tadpoles, terrestrial insect larvae, shrimp and even some marine species. ++
Google:
Freshwater Fish - General Information, wettropics
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++ All Pacific salmon belong to the single genus Onchorhynchus, while the Atlantic salmon is a single species, Salmo salar. .....
..... All species migrate from salt water to spawn in freshwater rivers, burying their eggs in gravel. ++
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++ Other species of migratory fish on the West Coast of North America include the American shad (Alosa sapidissima, introduced), eulachon (smelt) (Thaleichthys pacificus), green sturgeon (Acipenser medirostris), white sturgeon (A. transmontanus) and Pacific lamprey (Lampetra tridentata). .....
...... Like the salmon, the American shad returns to its freshwater. ++
Google:
APPENDIX B. Migratory Fish Species in North America, Europe, Asia and Africa, idrc
(3) The different races came from Noah's three sons and their wives. There were 8 survivors of the Great flood. Scientists say that every one of the present 7 billion Adam & Eve lookalikes on planet Earth are related to each other which can be confirmed by DNA testing. .....
Thus it does not matter if you are Chinese or from the USA say hello to your brother 99.9%.
(4) It is wrong to argue that because you allege that the Chinese Yao Dynasty has no record of a cataclysmic flood that this means it never happened. According to the Bible the Great flood happened about 4,400 years ago AND the Chinese do have the story of a great flood.
++ The Chinese glyph for "ship" is made up of pictographs for "vessel", "eight", and "mouth", indicating the eight passengers on Noah's Ark. ++
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++ This is begging the question. The point is that if the biblical history is true, the Chinese people would be descended from Noah and his family. Even if they had forgotten this aspect of their history, the claim would be that the characters are evidence of that part of Chinese history. .....
..... However, the Chinese classic called the Hihking tells how the "family of Fuhi," was saved from a great flood. It says that the entire land was flooded, including the mountains and one family survived in a boat. The Chinese consider Fuhi to be the father of their civilization. The Flood was survived only by Fuhi, his wife, three sons, and three daughters. Being the only people left alive, they repopulated the world. .....
I'm a little surprised you went for a local flood argument. I've never heard such from one of your camp. But, this is the only way your idea can make sense-- and I might say you defended the local flood idea fairly well.
But, this, of course, is only half the argument, half of what I asked, and not even the most important half.
So, where does the Bible say Eve mated with Satan? Unless you prove that, the whole Kenite issue is a lot of gobbledy-gook (to use the technical term).
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And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab
They had moved into the positions of also of teaching the Law
Most Kenites/Jews first came to Iberia after the destruction of the Temple.
The books of Ezra and Nehemiah shows, when the small remnant of Yudah , Benjamin and a few Levities , came back from their Babylonian Captivity . The Scribes ,[ who where The Kenites ], became the professional interpreters of the Law
In 1 Maccabees {2:42} {7:12, 13} The Scribes ,again , [ who where The Kenites ] , joined a party of men called ,the Zealous Assideans .
Under the Asmonean rule the Sopherim ,The Scribes ,became the leaders of a new party called , " The Pharisees " . When the Kenites under the tittle of ,Scribes / Pharisees ,were admitted to the Sanhedrin , they began to make void the precepts of the Law.The "Traditions of the Elders" / " Oral Law " customs and interpretations, became greater then ,the teaching and writing Laws Of YHWH.
When Yahshua The Hebrew Messiah came , and contradicted ,there False Religion , they ,The Kenites ,wanted him Death at any cost . They could no longer Hide behind their Lies . The Hebrew Messiah Yahshua himself identifies, These, Scribes and the Pharisees , the once who sit in Moses' seat ,as being Descendent's of Cain " Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
The "beginning," now, where was that? The garden of course, and when was the first murder recorded ?. Who was that first murderer? The first murderer was "Cain" and his children are Kenites.
The Kenites are the people Yahshua The Messiah will be against, as show in, Rev 2: 9 and Rev 3: 9 . Now the word "Jews" is from the Greek word "Yehudim" . These "Jews" are a part of the synagogue/"an assembly" of Satan / The Adversary , so this has to be something completely different from the actual tribe of Yudah. The Hebrew Messiah refers to the " Blasphemy " , which is the injurious speaking, of them which say they are Yudah , and are not.
What you have in your posts is a number of errors in logic based upon a linguistic mistake. The term used in 1 Chron 2:55 translated "scribes" (sof-reem in Hebrew, phonetically) only denotes ones who do writing/enumerating of some kind. This same term is used various ways, denoting military secretaries and treasurers, for instance. So, to say that the scribes of 1 Chron 2:55 are interpreters of the law is uncertain at best. From there, you erroneously suggest that "scribe" is = to Kenite.
2:55 Scribes - Either civil, who were public notaries, that wrote and signed legal instruments: or ecclesiastical. And these were either Levites, or Simeonites, or rather Kenites, and are here mentioned not as if they were of the tribe of Judah, but because they dwelt among them, and probably were allied to them by marriages, and so in a manner incorporated with them.
The meaning of "Kenite" comes from the Hebrew word "Qayin" or "Kayin" who is known to us English speaking peoples as "Cain". You see, the letter "Koph" in Hebrew which is the first letter in the name Kayin, Qayin, Cain, has the sound of a "K" or a "Q" or a hard "C", A Cain-ite, or Ken-ite in English, is therefore a son of, or descendent of, Cain
Kenites - kay-nee', kee-nee' Strong's #7017
Patronymic from H7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:—Kenite.
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
Matthew 23:2
Saying,The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
First, Wesley's comment that scribes could also be civic and legal notaries rather than just ecclesiastical figures supports my point, not yours. Second, you seem to miss that the Hebrew word you list is also the name of a city (i.e. Josh. 15.57). Are all people from St. Louis descendents of the man St. Louis because the live there? That's the logic you're using. Third, it's STILL a huge and faulty step in logic to say that all scribes mentioned after 1 Chron. 2.55 are Kenites.
One More Time, it's very simple and easy to prove, according to the biblical scriptures ,scrolls of the book , that the majority of scribes, were Non-Hebrews . 1 Chron. 2:55 And the families of the [key word ] scribes....kenites. From this point,if anyone knows anything about the scriptures,knows Following Cyrus' decree in 426 BC to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, Ezra and Nehemiah went back to Jerusalem, but they took with them only a REMNANT from the House of Judah
There were no Levitical priests among them. Ezra 8:15
And I gathered them together to the river than runneth to Ahava; and there abode we in tents three days: and I viewed the people, and the priests, and found there none of the sons of Levi. Ezra then sent some Nethinims, who were temple helpers, back to Babylon to get some Real Ministers, Levites The Nethinim brought back some Levites, but they did not come back with very many. The Scribes ,became the professional interpreters of the Law
Under the Asmonean rule the Sopherim ,The Scribes ,became the leaders of a new party called , " The Pharisees " . When the Kenites ,Scribes / Pharisees ,were admitted to the Sanhedrin , they began to make void the precepts of the Law . The "Traditions of the Elders" / " Oral Law " customs and interpretations, became greater then ,the teaching that Moses. The Pharisees referred to the Hebrew people as the "Am ha-aretz." This word is Hebrew and signifies"The Common People."
The scribes/ Kenites , had modified YHWH laws and even instituted laws and commandments of their own which were, diametrically opposite to the precepts of Moses. The Pharisees created the Beth Din ha-Gadol (Great Legislature) as a lawmaking, law-transmitting and law-confirming body - an institution they did not learn of from scripture.
The Kenites , had modified YHWH laws and even instituted laws (Oral Laws)Talmud ,and commandments of their own which were, diametrically opposite to the precepts of Moses. When Yahshua The Hebrew Messiah came , and contradicted ,there False Religion , they ,The Kenites ,wanted him Death at any cost .The Hebrew Messiah Yahshua himself identifies, These, Scribes and the Pharisees , the once who sit in Moses' seat ,as being Descendent's of Cain. John 8:44
Read With Understanding ,Who The Hebrew Messiah Yahshua , was disputing with.
John 8 : 33
They answered Him, We are Abrahams descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, You will be made free?
These " Scribes/Pharisees" claim they were never in bondage, they cannot therefore be Hebrews, for it is well known that the Hebrews were in bondage in Egypt .The Kenites are the people Yahshua The Messiah will be against, as show in, Rev 2: 9 and Rev 3: 9 say they are jews
I could do a lot to poke holes in your logic here, but here are the real issues: Does the Bible actually say Satan mated with Eve? Don't say Gen. 3.13 and mention "beguiled", because the Hebrew term there is never used in a sexual sense, and the KJV translators would have used it meaning "used guile against me" (e.g. tricked me).
Second, how did any descendants of Cain survive the Flood? Why would God try to cleanse the earth of violence but usher the spawn of the devil aboard?
The four different Hebrew verbs used in Genesis 8:1-8 to describe the receding of the flood waters indicate that these waters returned to their original sources. In other words, the waters of the flood are still to be found within the aquifers and troposphere and oceans of planet Earth. Since the total water content of the earth is only 22 percent of what would be needed for a global flood, it appears that the Genesis flood could not have been global.
The Biblical Scripture also shows , the Nephilim were on earth after the flood , that alone proves the flood was not Global .
If the floodwaters became the present oceans ,then all the freshwater fish would have had no place to find fresh water. A Global Flood would have caused great fluctuation in sea pressures ,many of the deep-sea creatures would have invariably die from the decompression when they would had to be brought to the surface.
Gen.8:1 it says, "YHWH made a wind to pass over the earth and the waters receded." Wind passing over a body of water will cause evaporation and then clouds form which can then dump the water elsewhere. If the whole earth was overlaid with water, how can a wind cause the water to recede . Keep in mind ,many of the sayings in the Biblical Scriptures are, Colloquialisms, and must be interpreted as so. It is a fact that the writers of scripture often used a form of speech known as Synecdoche.
Hebrew has many generic words that carry several meanings. The word "erets," which is translated as "earth" is throughout the flood account, which also means land, country, a region . Now Genesis 7:19, the waters "rose greatly ... and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The Hebrew word for "high," however, simply means elevated" and for "mountain," it means anything from "a small hillock" to "a towering peak."
++ "The Biblical Scripture also shows , the Nephilim were on earth after the flood , that alone proves the flood was not Global." ++
Genesis 6: 1-6 confirms that the Nephilim came into exsistence prior to the Great Flood of Noah. Thus these hybrid offspring humans would have died as the global flood came.
If the flood was global, how did the flood water receded? How did the plants, trees,fresh water fish survived, with the salt water ?
Explain how the different races came to be? What about the fact that the Chinese period during the Yao Dynasty ,has no record of a cataclysmic flood. If the flood had been universal, all civilizations would have been destroyed along with their inventions, and civilization would have went back to the Stone Age and it would have taken centuries to recover
Conquer it repenteth me to carry on so with you. I shall now stop for it places us both in sin for sowing seeds of discord among the brethren. Christians should not behave as such to one another, and although you do not consider me a Christian, I do. Peace Conquer.
Now Conquer if you will excuse me, it is time for Bible Study. So I depart Youtube now for a break from you I need, and lesson's from the Bible I need even more.
And Conquer, Christ and Father says if one sheep go astray will He not take the rest of the herd and pursue that one lost sheep. And you contend with me that Father will forsake me because of how I understand the word beguile? How many times will Christ forgive - 7 x 70. Pass not judgement upon this Christian child of God for it is not yours to render.
the word is also for reproving, rebuking and learning. If someone tells you one of the words has a definition that is was NOT meant to have and changes the entire meaning, should no one challenge such an error? What if that error causes a person to develop all kinds of false beliefs because they prefer the new definition? Would they not in fact have wandered off the path of truth and now follow another gospel? Will Jesus accept one that walked away from Him to follow another gospel? no
Yes Conquer it is your duty to plant that seed. But you can only plant it and be on your way. You can not make it grow or change man heart or mind necessarily. It is up to God to make that seed grow or change the heart for he is the "Heart Knower". How much damage do you do when you are trying to force this growth that is Gods job only? He is teaching you as well.
there is not one mormon in heaven, all have gone to hell. The mormon God is not real, nor if the jesus they fabricated. They follow a cult.
If a man stopped your car and told you the bridge ahead had colapsed. Should he just smile and wave as you pass or do all he can to save your life?
If you are truly a reprobate, you can't be saved by me or anyone else because GOD is finished dealing with you. Maybe HE is and I should move along? Are you a reprobate? Do you know? Can you tell?
Conquer do you not realize that by how you judge the children of God thou wilst also be judged. Do you not see how you judge all these people to hell, yet God only is judge and knows their heart?
And I thank you for telling me the bridge has collapsed and will go and look upon such a thing.
I have not judged anyone... only GOD can do that. But even I can know the difference in right and wrong, thanks to Eve. And to follow a false religion is to condemn ones self to eternal hell. I didn't damn them, they damned themselves. How can I say that? The Bible makes it very plain. I have repeated what it says.
I have compared what is done to the only real truth that can be trusted, God's word.
I thought we were discussing this, not "vehemently beating" each other.
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
not sure where your going with this passage. The key words are "food", "pleasent to the eye", "and did eat". Zero reference to a sexual encounter with satan. God made the trees pleasent to the eyes and for food. Satan convinced her to eat fromthat one tree would make her like God, granting them the "knowledge of good and evil"... she considered that wise.
If she had immediately gone to the tree of life, she would have lived forever under God's curse. God knew and prevented them.
"And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me ANOTHER SEED INSTEAD OF ABEL, whom Cain slew."
Now, Lizi...not everyone can see that, so don't be discouraged.
Gen4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
So who is the father of Cain?
Adam unless your eyes have been blinded.
I never questioned who the father of Cain, Abel and Seth are... but you refuse to see that verses are exactly the same but 4:1 absolutely refutes your satan/seed theory.
It's interesting the "knew" means exactly the same thing in both places but YOU substitute satan for Adam to support the false doctrine.
Nowhere in the Word of God does it say Cain is the son of Adam. Show me scripture Conquer. She continued in labor and had Abel. She partook first, got booted from the garden then knew her husband. Cain and Abel were twins for all particular purposes, but not paternal twins. What are you hoping to accomplish here?
you really can't stand the fact Cain and Abel are the son's of Adam.
Applying your "likness" theory, Abel was not the son of adam either by the mere fact the word "likness" is missing.
"ADAM KNEW HIS WIFE EVE AND SHE CONCIEVED..." How much more plain can GOD make it for you? Are you so determined to deny what the Holy Spirit wrote to perpetuate this false doctrine, you will go to any means to deny the written evidence?
Again, you presume Eve called satan lord, she KNEW better!
Why did Eve not say look at our son Adam? She named Cain a son from the Lord. Which lord? And no I do not call Satan lord, but he calls himself the "bright morning star" and I think there is scripture were Christ references this as well. Satan copies everything so you have duplicate names even in Cain's childen as from Adam and Seth's children. But Satan is lord to 1/3 of God's children and 7000 fallen angels.
there is not enough room in the Bible to write down every single word spoken between men & women, etc.
Could they have discussed how he had his mothers hair and his fathers nose? Yes. Important? No.
Satan sweet talked 1/3 of the angelic host to follow him. They were not "god's children", they were "God's creation." Angels are not born Lizi, they are created whole beings. The baby angels concept is purely man made.
You are doing a noble thing trying to teach the real word of God to people who are clearly beguiled or deceived.
I read sentforth5 and Lizi99's comments and see who they are really following.
By putting Satan at the center of their bible study and understanding of the word of God shows who they are following.
Teaching vague possibilities as God's written word and completely ignoring the written word of God is an eye opener that Satan is among us and deceiving many.
One other thing Conquer, I do apologize for spaming you comments section, but not for what I am about to say.
It sickens me to my soul to see you link the Kenite tribe to that of Mother Mary. Do you not know how sinful that is? That will bring wrath upon your head Conquer and I do fear for you for the Christ you think will welcome you will bind you to a thing that will cause you gnashing of teeth.
If you have found scriptures other than the ones I posted, please share them. Based on the posted scripture, the woman was a type of forerunner to Mary the mother of Jesus. If that offends you, your offence is misplaced unless you can actually give scriptural support other than the suppositions and theories of arnold murray.
There is NOT one scripture that indicates they were the slightest evil, except for the murrayite teachings which are fuylly guesses.
The scribes and parasees believed that because they were from the physical linage of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, they were safe. They thought that was sufficient. You think anyone that might be a kenite is evil, very similar way of looking at the world. When a person gets born again, they have a new father. The scribes & pharasees, were not born again. Question is, have you ever been? If not, your father is the same as theirs.
Oh Conquer, I was what you babes in the Word call born again in my early teens. I learned to repent for there is no denying the Holy Spirit. As for my Father, I will let him tell you of me Himself. And from your above statement - how dare you starve the Sheep because you think that you have special edification over those of the other children. May I remind you yet again Christ Jesus came for the lost and sinners, not to have high council in sitting parlors.
John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
St John 8: 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Read the verse where Jesus is talking to Nicodemus. Jesus is explaining that if a man is not born again, he will not see the kingdom of God. Do you understand it or do you know what others told you it means? It's in John. That scripture holds a very precious memory for me. That pearl I will not share here.
I would face to face with other born again believers, not here.
So I ask, before the man was born again, who was his father? And after being born again, who is the Father?
I very well understand about man being born again. Man is born from heaven above to flesh, which the fallen angels would not do, and God did through Christ Jesus. I will not see the blood line your way. It upsets me that you connect it to Mother Mary, I have told you how I feel and I won't be a part of that nonsense! Stay at me over it and I will have to avoid you all together.
I won't persue the mary thing further, its a moot point to me and only a supposition.
The born again definition is pretty different from what I find and know.
Jesus told Nic, lest a man be born again... So a man was born once and Jesus is saying he must be born a second time. Who was his first father and who is the second father. How do you get born again? Can you know if you have been born again and how?
Born again is my mistake, for it is a common reference to baptism. We dedicate ourselves to Christ through baptism (many think it to be a born again Christian). Man is born once from above to flesh and will die once in flesh. Exception is Elijah who did not die in flesh so it stands to reason he will come back as one of the two witnesses and die in the streets of Jerusalem. It translates lest man should be born from above...
Why did you walk away from the Word of God to follow two brothers who built a religious doctrine from their sick sisters ramblings? The words Joseph Smith come to mind. Why do you ask that I go over the beguiling of Eve yet again? I wish not to slide all the way back to square one and trade blows with you throughout the scriptures. Ask God and he will tell you of me if it is his Will.
I have no knowledge of the two brothers you mention. So to accuse me of following them is a bit rediculous.
God has told me of you Lizi. That's why I am here. You have been decieved.
Joseph Smith fabricated his own religion exactly the same way arnold murray has. He mixes scripture and does word associations to prove his is right by no oyther means than taking scripture out of context to make it say what he wants.
Using his technique, I can prove satan is not going to hell.
Maybe you should go back to the word beguiled Lizi99 because it seems you completely missed what that word really means. Murray is terrible with word study he always gets it wrong.
He deceives people from the true Gospel. That's obvious
You have to be grounded in the word of God to really see this. Not grounded in Murray's Gospel of deception.
You will never know the truth if you don't look up what people are trying to tell you. Look it up for yourself and you will be amazed.
I do read and have been over this subject so many time already. Thank you for your concern but you are not going to change my mind. I put my education and understanding in Fathers hands and if I am wrong He will correct me.
The simple definition of "beguiled" is the perfect example of the LORD trying to let you see. How many time does HE have to ask? HE will not strive with you forever.
How do you explain the difference in the definition of the word "beguiled" and the definition Arnold Murry created?
We don't know the day or the hour, He told us we would not. But this is the season.
If you can't see the truth now, before HE comes, I don't think you ever will. I think HE will turn you over with all the rest to believe the lie and be damned. The Age of Grace is almost over. The angels will come at the end of the great tribulation and take the wicked away. Think
Scripture tells us we are supposed to know the season but no man knows the day or the hour.
One of the videos I watched was exceptional in pointing out the obvious that was difficult to see. You & your friends rediculed it.
At the end of the great tribulation, God's angels will gather the tates and cast tem into hell. (2 at the mill, 1 taken; 2 in the field, 1 taken.) Those left will enter the 1000 yr reign. You?
Christ returns on the third day of the two witnesses as they lay dead in the street then resurrect. And, anti-christ takes those people from the mill or field leaving one behind to work. Christ said how happy he will be to find us working in the field when he returns. Christ references those scriptures. John 8:44 is Christ referencing those of Satans bloodline for the devil is their father. But the ones taken from the field bother me most for you revel in it and it is an abomination.
scripture indicates the 2 witness testify for 3 1/2 years. Finally God allows them to be killed. The world rejoices, 3 days later the rise from the dead and are watched as they ascend into heaven.
The event regarding the one taken, one left is at the end of the great tribulation. God's angels will gather the wicked and those that have rejected His Son and toss them into hell till the day of judgement. The remaining will enter into the 1000 yr reign with Christ and the Bride.
Also Conquer: The remaining will enter into the 1000 yr reign with Christ and the Bride. - Who will they teach and minister too if all the lost children have already been burned up in hell Conquer?
The "Great Day of Judgement" comes at the end of this 1000 years. Yet last year, last month, and yesterday YOU have cast Christian into hellfire (joyfully) as if it is your right for you desire to punish God's children who do not bend to your will.
Why do you think every living being is a child of GOD that will be saved from the fires of Hell? Do you think those that reject His Son will all go to Heaven anyway?
As far as the 1000 yr reign. Only 2 besides Jesus will enter that time. The Bride and those that never made a choice for Christ and actually survived the great tribulation. I didn't say all are going to hell, just those that reject Christ, in false religions, cults & wicked will go 2 hell at end of the Grt Tribulation.
I know that not every child of God's will be saved. But is it not the desire of God that all His children should come to repentance. Who is the only One that knoweth His childs heart right before that child dies? This is all supposition on your part for whatever labels you have attached to any given child of God He can readily detach in a blink of an eye. Plant your seeds and be done Conquer. The rest of their welfare is out of your hands.
the question I asked you some time back, if you believed this; "The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did."
Do you know where I copied it from?
This was copied and pasted from "TheQandA4U" youtube webpage. Seems he believes it. Still think he is a fellow christian? You still like the thought of him as "your" christian brother?
You asked me that question. I have not gone to his page to study his comment, but I know as usual you are just keeping an eye out for me Conquer :) Thank you!!!
More importantly, you know how I feel. I think it is one thing we agree upon too. Christ Jesus accomplished so many things for us on so very many levels. I would not expect less of our Lord and King either. He was sent to show us the way and while he earned inheritance of the Kingdom, we fall way too short in earning Him.
AGREED. HE IS ALSO A SATANIC BLASPHEMER. HE SUPPOSES THESE PEOPLE WORSHI[[ED OUR FATHER BEFORE OUR PEOPLE DID!
RIGHT THERE... THIS MAN IS A HERETIC.
HE ALSO JUST HAPPENS TO SKIP OVER WHO THE SEED BECOMES AND DOESNT SEEM TO HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE WHOLE OF THE SCRIPTURE IS ABOUT... WHICH IS THE FACT MIXING BLOODLINES IS FORBIDDEN. YOU WILL NOTE ALLL ADAMIC SEEDS WHO MIX OUTSIDE OF THE BLOODLINE ARE KILLED, DAMNED AND OR CURSED FOREVER.
@mrtruthify Personally I think anyone calling on the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ can be saved. Even the so-called kenites or whoever they are. I'm not here to argue with anyone. I think you go way off the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ. Are you a white supremacist? Do you believe that only white ''anglo-saxon'' Aryan race people can be saved? I think you should listen to this and see where this ''Christian identity'' comes from..
watch?v=OmsXHgnXmeo (WILLIAM COOPER on BRITISH ISRAELISM [1/4])
THIS MAN IS ALSO A MORON. HE SAYS IN ONE SENTENCE KENITES MIGHT BE A FORRUNNER TO THE VIRGIN MARRY BLOODLINE. THEN HE SAYS THEY WERE ADOPTED BY ISRAEL AND ALLOWED TO MINISTER.
DO PEOPLE WHO MINISTER REALLY STILL NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORLD "ISRAEL" MEANS?
PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF ANY RIGHT TO BLASPHEME AND LEAD OUR PEOPLE ASTRAY.
HE IS EITHER VERY UNEDUCATED IN THE WHOLE OF THE LAW OR HE IS A DECIEVER, SATAN. (MEANS ADVERSARY IN HEBREW).
@mrtruthify why does scripture give two separate geniologies between cain's seed and seth's seed? Seth was of the geniology of Adam, for Adam's rib was the gene pool of Eve, and both had Abel. Scripture says that Seth was a replacement for Abel. Cain was the twin brother of Lucifer's seed, and that's why Father didn't accept cains sacrifice. God sayathat Satan was a MURDERER from the beginning...Think brothers and sisters, it all makes sense. Holy Spirit will teach. "Seek ye first I will addall"
I got this from one of your fellow murrayites pages.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
"The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did."
Is this what you believe?
Did arnold murray teach this or is this his doctrine?
I asked a question. Its a legitimate question. A guy that post Arnold Murray sermons on youtube has that statement on his youtube page that he typed himself.
So, my question was:
Did you believe it as well? (apparently not.)
Is that an Arnold Murray bible instruction?
(perhaps you don't know what all murray teaches?)
It was NOT a stupid question. Perhaps you need to see what other murrayites are believing, maybe you think different?
anyone that goes to Hell and later to ther Lake of Fire do not burn up. They are immortal and they can not be burned up. They wil suffer for eternity for refusing the real Jesus, for false religions etc.
For a fact, there is NOT one single real Christian in Hell nor going to the Lake of Fire. The rest... well ... unless they wake up, repent and follow the real Jesus, they will go later.
The Bible says the ones going to hell will tell GOD, "How beautiful are the feet of the saints."
you take some too literal, what about those that work in offices & not in the fields?
The passage you refrenced you took out of context because you refuse to accept the promise of Jesus to be worthy and escape. Jesus said escape because He will come in the clouds and calls those looking for His return. Looking doesn't mean standing around waiting on the bus, its living, working and sharing the gospel. His Bride is doing that and looking for His call. We will be transformed, will you?
Escape? ESCAPE - we are to make Christ's enemies his FOOTSTOOL!!!!!!
So you know the day Christ returns, not the hour...admit it. Christ returns with a rod of iron in his hand. Everyone will be transformed for the end of flesh comes Conquer.
You are soooo reading the literal into it yourself. Have it your way Conquer.
What are you hoping to gain by tempting me Conquer?
you still haven't answered the question... why did Jesus say escape?
Do you really think you and others will take over this corrupt world before Jesus returns? Scripture says the world will wax worse and worse till Jesus comes back. Then HE will rule it with an iron rod... with His Bride working at His side.
The only thing I am tempoting you to do is think...
For example, why did Jesus come and die on the cross?
If everyone, according to your religion goes to heaven, why die?
a person going through the great tribulation will know the day of Christs return because the events that take place are very precise.
So why did Jesus tells the disciplies "no man knows the day or the hour"? Its because Jesus comes once to gather His bride... and no one knws the day or the hour.... then Jesus comes back to rule and reign... and that day is known.
TWO EVENTS. Unless your eyes are opened in time, you will go through the great tribulation and suffer terribly.
Conquer we escape the great tribulation for it is for Satan and those who bow to him. We are protected and escape the death angel much like the Israelites did when Moses lead them out of Egypt. You are describing THREE ADVENTS!!!! Christ comes as a babe, and returns as a King with a "ROD OF IRON". 2 = two
You know what....escape, run away with anit-christ. He will let you be a great leader over the children just as thou desires.
What makes you think you are protected? Biblically?
3 advents?
1- Jesus comes and dies.
[Jesus takes His bride (marriage feast)]
3- Jesus returns to rule forever.
Jesus said "escape", not satan. If Jesus said "worthy to escape" why do you say satan said it?
There is no passage that hints or suggests satan will take people from the earth. That is a theory created by a man that doesn't understand scripture, evident by lack of proof.
@apkreid you need to keep reading the word of God. If Cain was the son of Adam then why if Cain not in Adams bloodline? Think about it.
thorne7905 19 hours ago
The serpent seed or two seedline doctrine lines up with scripture 75 percent, so it must be false.
Flxiblemetro 3 weeks ago
Rightfully divide the word of God. Moses father in law was called a Kenite because he was living in the land of Kenites. He was kenite by location not by nationality. Satan and Kenites often uses the same tactics you do. confusion. This can be done by by omiting common sense. This is the answer to only one of your questiosn so far.. Stay tuned...
RETNASCANZ 4 months ago
Gen 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
Cain was Adams son.
Adam "knew" Eve (that means they has sex) she conceived (that means she got pregnant) she bare Cain (that means she had the baby, she conceived with Adam).... 'nough said.
apkreid 4 months ago
@apkreid Exactly...
Cutie9326 3 months ago
This moron knows nothing about scripture. He totally avoids the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance definition of the Kenites. The Kenites were never killed because God ordered them not to be killed when the mark was placed upon Cain. God said to mark them, but do not kill them.
subaraptor 5 months ago
This video makes no sense to me all I hear is blah blah blah babel
JerryBalcazar88 6 months ago
Kenite modern day Kenya
PunchOjr 8 months ago
@gracetalks7 Again...where is the race issue coming in on this?
wolfgange63 9 months ago
WHAT A FOOL! You use the internet for a reliable source for scripture study? You should be ashamed! Try using the Strong's Exhaustive Concordance, O minister of Satan.
subaraptor 9 months ago
Thank you Brother!!! This is nothing more and nothing less than the same garbage the Mormons used for their discrimination of the Negros, a claim, based upon nothing.
THIS is a great example of why I hate the willy-nilly use of the title 'christian'. So many say they are, and purposely refuse to read the Bible, yet open claim they HAVE read it.
LIARS!
All need to be like the noble Bereans
Amen
buzzbbird 10 months ago
to claim that any race is literally and physically descended from satan is racist nonsense. I had forgotten that there are bigots out there who want to demonize any race. the sin of eden was not sex but disobedience, to call a person a son ofsatan is not to claim that satan was his literal grandfather, only that he is like satan morally speaking.
so this is a good video exposing racist bigotry posing as bible scholarship
Strefanasha 1 year ago
@Strefanasha Ever heard of the Niphilim? They took the daughters of Adam as wives, and bore offspring. Satan was the leader of the Nephilim, for he was the same as them.
subaraptor 9 months ago
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@Strefanasha Who said anything about race??
wolfgange63 9 months ago
Also look at what Jesus said here: 34Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city: 35That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
Who killed Abel? Wouldnt that be Cain?
wolfgange63 1 year ago
The reason David or anyone else didnt kill off the Kenites is written in Matthew 13 in the parable of the Wheat and the Tares. It specifies that the tares are the children of the Wicked one. If you gather the Tares (or destroy them ) you may aslo root up the wheat (the good seed). Also like you said...they were working with the Levites in the Temple. Thats how they made their way to take over the church. Many times Jesus called the Pharisees offspring of the devil. Such as Matt.23:29-39
wolfgange63 1 year ago
@wolfgange63 Very Good! You are a true student of Christ's word. You produce good fruit.
subaraptor 9 months ago
pls go to THESEASON ORG and you will read and learn more than you will ever know with understanding....no need to become insulting just learn GOD'S WORD with understanding...
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
Once this sin was committed, their eyes were open to wickedness, but closed to truth. Think on this! Jesus told us to learn the "parable of the fig tree" in three of the gospels. This warning is given in Matthew 24:32, Mark 13:28, and Luke 21:29; yet most churches of today are completely ignoring God's warning, and following after fairy tales the Kenites are teaching them.
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
arnold murray followers are not gonna be happy about exposing truth about the kenites
tonyteb 1 year ago
Matthew 23:13 But woe unto you, SCRIBES and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in [yourselves], neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
instantproducts 1 year ago
Jeremiah 35:6 But they said, We will drink no wine: for Jonadab the son of Rechab our father commanded us, saying, Ye shall drink no wine, [neither] ye, nor your sons for ever.
1 Chronicles 2:55 And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, [and] Suchathites. These [are] the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
instantproducts 1 year ago
its best said in there own words ....
gameover1156 1 year ago
(continued) In America you can criticize God, but you can’t criticize Israel…” Israeli spokeswoman, Tzipora Menache
gameover1156 1 year ago
“You know very well, and the stupid Americans know equally well, that we control their government, irrespective of who sits in the White House. You see, I know it and you know it that no American president can be in a position to challenge us even if we do the unthinkable. What can they (Americans) do to us? We control congress, we control the media, we control show biz, and we control everything in America.
gameover1156 1 year ago
Respond to this video... rev 3:9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of satan, which they say they are jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, i will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that i have loved thee. this is the kenites. That was christ in his own words. Do you dare to challenge that , do some research. did you know 96% of the worlds media is owned by people who claim to be jews
gameover1156 1 year ago
@gameover1156 i dare challege that were does it say they were kenites murray follower please ch and vs only
tonyteb 1 year ago
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We know that Jesus was speaking of Cain that we just read about in Genesis 4:8 and 9, Where did all this corruptness begin? It began with with Cain's father Satan, and Jesus knew it and spoke it; "When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he [Satan] is a liar, and the father of it [lies]". The Devil, [Satan] is the father of Cain, who is the father of the Kenites
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
We know that Jesus was speaking of Cain that we just read about in Genesis 4:8 and 9, Where did all this corruptness begin? It began with with Cain's father Satan, and Jesus knew it and spoke it; "When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own, for he [Satan] is a liar, and the father of it [lies]". The Devil, [Satan] is the father of Cain, who is the father of the Kenites
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
@duchesseagle404 Right On, here here, good word.
Prostylefilms 1 year ago
@duchesseagle404 lets get real literal seed sperma as it pretains to satan huh please look up the word in 1 jn 3 vs nineand tell me what that word seed means there as it pretains to god
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb Once this sinks into your mind, then you will start to understand the truth that is winding through the entire scriptures. You will see why it was important to the Kenites that you believe a lie, for this lie allows them to virtually take over the duties of the scribes [I Chronicles 2:55]. These Kenites, or sons of Satan, took control of the interpretation of the words that God spoke to His children through the prophets coming out of the Babylonian captivity.
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
@duchesseagle404 show me in scripture were God warns of the kenite changing his words
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb Adam and Eve are in a fig orchard, and not an apple orchard. Do you think that they made apple masks from apple tree leaves to cover their mouths? How silly can you get! Yet this is the type of ignorance being preached from most pulpits today. Adam and Eve made aprons out of fig leaves to cover their private parts, for their sin was the sex act with Satan
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
@duchesseagle404 who said anything about an apple
tonyteb 1 year ago
@tonyteb Genesis 3:7 "And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons."
Once this sin was committed
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
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@duchesseagle404 genisis $ vs 1 and adam knew eve his wife and bare cain and said i have gotten a man child from the LORD so whats your point
tonyteb 1 year ago
Go to Strong's Hebrew dictionary, # 7014; "Qayin, Kah'-yin; Kajin, the name of the first child, also of a place in Pal, and of an Oriental tribe:-Cain, Kenite".
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
@duchesseagle404 do you know how to read hebrew and greek like murray also without the strongs and why not use the new strongs
tonyteb 1 year ago
wake up pls go to THESEASON ORG ......AND REALLY LEARN WHO THE KENITES ARE.......
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
John 8:44 "Ye are of your father the Devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of i
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
"Ye", are the "Kenites" that lived with the tribe of Judah, and called themselves Jews, yet they are the simply the sons of Cain [Kenites]. Jesus addressed them and called them exactly what they are.
duchesseagle404 1 year ago
All I can say is this person is lost. Pray for him.
crcarter 1 year ago
He's lying, they are the Kenites. He is probably one himself.
christycrab76 1 year ago
Interesting video. You have some facts stated correctly. Some you do not. I take it that this is a debunk toward the teaching of Arnold Murray at Shepherds Chapel. Am I correct?
jimu57 1 year ago
most likely he debunking without following through with one subject
ladyluda321 1 year ago
Kenites are indeed the seedline of Cain, the first murderer. Cain was Satan's child. My spiritual discernment causes me to mark this suppossed know it all commentator. See John 8:44 (follow the subject), 1st John chapter 3, and Revelation 2:9 and 3:9.
jamesfire78 2 years ago
This was quite possibly the worst "analysis" of the kenites I've ever seen. The Strong's Concordance even gives you the definition of the kayin. Not good.
ccastro10 2 years ago
Easter,The Rapture are not in The Bible at all and The Anti-Christ only once. Do your homework and revise :-)
rowdyronn 2 years ago
this video is stupid
yourboyken 2 years ago
first horseman of the apocalypse, the little horn in daniel, man of sin in 2 thess. chapt. 2, the beast with two horns like a lamb but spoke like a dragon in chapter 13 of revelation, all of them mean antichrist, so he was mentioned more than once.
munku121 2 years ago
First look at statement in Genesis 6:4: "The Nephilim were on the earth at that time (and even afterwards) How come the descendants of the Nephilim (the Anakim) were around
after the flood?There are even giants mentioned,Og and Sihon,Goliath were they come from?
Again, lets look at Cain the eponymous ancestor of the Kenites , Numbers 24:21-22, which refers to the Kenites by the name of their ancestor Cain. His bloodline obviously did not perish but remained in existence throughout history.
derekdb2 2 years ago
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++ "If the flood was global, how did the flood water receded? How did the plants, trees,fresh water fish survived, with the salt water ? Explain how the different races came to be? What about the fact that the Chinese period during the Yao Dynasty ,has no record of a cataclysmic flood. If the flood had been universal, all civilizations would have been destroyed along with their inventions, and civilization would have went back to the Stone Age ..." ++
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hume1947 2 years ago
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(1) You have made no allowances for the fact that this great event caused great disturbances to the land masses, and the eruption of lands coming up out of the sea to form mountains and higher levels of land. Also, Genesis 7:11 tells us that waters came from the inside the planet Earth and from the skies:
++ In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, ...
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hume1947 2 years ago
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..... the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.
(2) You have failed to make allowances that the sea water was not as salty as at the present time. Plants & trees being covered by floods would not wipe out them out completely. It is the same when fire devastates a forest the life returns the trees and plants grow again.
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hume1947 2 years ago
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You have also ignored the fact that science says that many fish of the same species are found to live in fresh water and others who reside in salt water. Plus other fish can swim in both.
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++ Many fish species seen on the Barrier Reef as adults actually started their lives in streams and brackish water estuaries (mixed fresh and salt water). The reverse also takes place with some freshwater fish migrating to salt water to breed. .....
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hume1947 2 years ago
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..... The freshwater rivers and streams of the Wet Tropics also support a myriad of fauna in addition to fish such as platypus, crayfish, aquatic insects, frog and tadpoles, terrestrial insect larvae, shrimp and even some marine species. ++
Google:
Freshwater Fish - General Information, wettropics
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++ All Pacific salmon belong to the single genus Onchorhynchus, while the Atlantic salmon is a single species, Salmo salar. .....
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hume1947 2 years ago
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..... All species migrate from salt water to spawn in freshwater rivers, burying their eggs in gravel. ++
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++ Other species of migratory fish on the West Coast of North America include the American shad (Alosa sapidissima, introduced), eulachon (smelt) (Thaleichthys pacificus), green sturgeon (Acipenser medirostris), white sturgeon (A. transmontanus) and Pacific lamprey (Lampetra tridentata). .....
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hume1947 2 years ago
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...... Like the salmon, the American shad returns to its freshwater. ++
Google:
APPENDIX B. Migratory Fish Species in North America, Europe, Asia and Africa, idrc
(3) The different races came from Noah's three sons and their wives. There were 8 survivors of the Great flood. Scientists say that every one of the present 7 billion Adam & Eve lookalikes on planet Earth are related to each other which can be confirmed by DNA testing. .....
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hume1947 2 years ago
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Thus it does not matter if you are Chinese or from the USA say hello to your brother 99.9%.
(4) It is wrong to argue that because you allege that the Chinese Yao Dynasty has no record of a cataclysmic flood that this means it never happened. According to the Bible the Great flood happened about 4,400 years ago AND the Chinese do have the story of a great flood.
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hume1947 2 years ago
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++ The Chinese glyph for "ship" is made up of pictographs for "vessel", "eight", and "mouth", indicating the eight passengers on Noah's Ark. ++
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++ This is begging the question. The point is that if the biblical history is true, the Chinese people would be descended from Noah and his family. Even if they had forgotten this aspect of their history, the claim would be that the characters are evidence of that part of Chinese history. .....
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hume1947 2 years ago
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..... However, the Chinese classic called the Hihking tells how the "family of Fuhi," was saved from a great flood. It says that the entire land was flooded, including the mountains and one family survived in a boat. The Chinese consider Fuhi to be the father of their civilization. The Flood was survived only by Fuhi, his wife, three sons, and three daughters. Being the only people left alive, they repopulated the world. .....
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hume1947 2 years ago
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..... Lets see: We have Fuhi and his wife, that's two. We have their sons, that's three, and we have their daughters, that's three.
And 2 + 3 + 3 = 8.
So China does have a Flood legend with eight people in an Ark. ++
Google:
Chinese glyph for "ark" is literally "8 mouths" (Talk.Origins), creationwiki
hume1947 2 years ago
I'm a little surprised you went for a local flood argument. I've never heard such from one of your camp. But, this is the only way your idea can make sense-- and I might say you defended the local flood idea fairly well.
But, this, of course, is only half the argument, half of what I asked, and not even the most important half.
So, where does the Bible say Eve mated with Satan? Unless you prove that, the whole Kenite issue is a lot of gobbledy-gook (to use the technical term).
MrScooterWolf 2 years ago
this video is as wrong as the day is long.
it's one thing to misunderstand the Bible; it is quite another to teach what you misunderstand.
I'll pray for you.
SonOfAsaph5 2 years ago
Awesome, hopefully this corrective series will pull from the fire the followers of Arnold Murray's Shepherd's Chapel cult.
EncompassedRunner 2 years ago
From, shepherdschapelDOTco: So how has God rewarded you for these informative videos, C2day? Did you win the lottery? Is that why you havent signed in for a month? Whats your testimony buddy? Let us all know how God has blessed you. Testify, brutha! Testify with that sure, smooth, "trying not to sound like Jeff Foxworthy", voice of yours, pal. You should post more videos and not remove these, if thats the case. So that way God can bless you more!
BolivianTrip 2 years ago
This C2day shlub is a flamer from way back. the bible sxeems to have nothing but contridictions for this a hole.
Get a Strongs Kenite means literally the children of CAIN. KAHN.
rabbikahn 2 years ago
King James Bible
Strong's Greek Dictionary
kah'-in. of Hebrew origin (Qayin 7014); Cain, (i.e. Cajin), the son of Adam
The Kenites journeyed and migrated with the Yisralites to Palestine (Judges 1 : 16) .
Judges 1:16
And the children of the Kenite, Moses' father in law, went up out of the city of palm trees with the children of Judah into the wilderness of Judah, which lieth in the south of Arad; and they went and dwelt among the people.
derekdb2 2 years ago
In I Chronicles 2:55 , The Kenites moved into Jerusalem and were now figured with the title of " Scribes" .
1 Chronicles 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab
They had moved into the positions of also of teaching the Law
derekdb2 2 years ago
Jeremiah 8:8,9
How do ye say, We [are] wise, and the law of YHWH [is] with us? Lo, certainly in vain made he [it]; the pen of the Scribes [is] in vain.
The wise [men] are ashamed, they are dismayed and taken: lo, they have rejected the word of YHWH; and what wisdom [is] in them?
From the above scripture you discover the Kenites were infiltering the priesthood.
The Kenites became know as " Scribes" they began teaching , whats know as , The Oral Law . The traditions decrees, { Aggadah } customs
derekdb2 2 years ago
Most Kenites/Jews first came to Iberia after the destruction of the Temple.
The books of Ezra and Nehemiah shows, when the small remnant of Yudah , Benjamin and a few Levities , came back from their Babylonian Captivity . The Scribes ,[ who where The Kenites ], became the professional interpreters of the Law
In 1 Maccabees {2:42} {7:12, 13} The Scribes ,again , [ who where The Kenites ] , joined a party of men called ,the Zealous Assideans .
Tunc congregata est ad eos synagoga Assidæorum
derekdb2 2 years ago
Under the Asmonean rule the Sopherim ,The Scribes ,became the leaders of a new party called , " The Pharisees " . When the Kenites under the tittle of ,Scribes / Pharisees ,were admitted to the Sanhedrin , they began to make void the precepts of the Law.The "Traditions of the Elders" / " Oral Law " customs and interpretations, became greater then ,the teaching and writing Laws Of YHWH.
derekdb2 2 years ago
When Yahshua The Hebrew Messiah came , and contradicted ,there False Religion , they ,The Kenites ,wanted him Death at any cost . They could no longer Hide behind their Lies . The Hebrew Messiah Yahshua himself identifies, These, Scribes and the Pharisees , the once who sit in Moses' seat ,as being Descendent's of Cain " Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth,
derekdb2 2 years ago
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John 8:44
"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."
The "beginning," now, where was that? The garden of course, and when was the first murder recorded ?. Who was that first murderer? The first murderer was "Cain" and his children are Kenites.
derekdb2 2 years ago
The Kenites are the people Yahshua The Messiah will be against, as show in, Rev 2: 9 and Rev 3: 9 . Now the word "Jews" is from the Greek word "Yehudim" . These "Jews" are a part of the synagogue/"an assembly" of Satan / The Adversary , so this has to be something completely different from the actual tribe of Yudah. The Hebrew Messiah refers to the " Blasphemy " , which is the injurious speaking, of them which say they are Yudah , and are not.
derekdb2 2 years ago
What you have in your posts is a number of errors in logic based upon a linguistic mistake. The term used in 1 Chron 2:55 translated "scribes" (sof-reem in Hebrew, phonetically) only denotes ones who do writing/enumerating of some kind. This same term is used various ways, denoting military secretaries and treasurers, for instance. So, to say that the scribes of 1 Chron 2:55 are interpreters of the law is uncertain at best. From there, you erroneously suggest that "scribe" is = to Kenite.
MrScooterWolf 2 years ago
Wesley's Notes
2:55 Scribes - Either civil, who were public notaries, that wrote and signed legal instruments: or ecclesiastical. And these were either Levites, or Simeonites, or rather Kenites, and are here mentioned not as if they were of the tribe of Judah, but because they dwelt among them, and probably were allied to them by marriages, and so in a manner incorporated with them.
derekdb2 2 years ago
The meaning of "Kenite" comes from the Hebrew word "Qayin" or "Kayin" who is known to us English speaking peoples as "Cain". You see, the letter "Koph" in Hebrew which is the first letter in the name Kayin, Qayin, Cain, has the sound of a "K" or a "Q" or a hard "C", A Cain-ite, or Ken-ite in English, is therefore a son of, or descendent of, Cain
Kenites - kay-nee', kee-nee' Strong's #7017
Patronymic from H7014; a Kenite or member of the tribe of Kajin:—Kenite.
derekdb2 2 years ago
1 Chron. 2:55
And the families of the scribes which dwelt at Jabez; the Tirathites, the Shimeathites, and Suchathites. These are the Kenites that came of Hemath, the father of the house of Rechab.
Matthew 23:2
Saying,The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
Revelation 3:9
Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
derekdb2 2 years ago
First, Wesley's comment that scribes could also be civic and legal notaries rather than just ecclesiastical figures supports my point, not yours. Second, you seem to miss that the Hebrew word you list is also the name of a city (i.e. Josh. 15.57). Are all people from St. Louis descendents of the man St. Louis because the live there? That's the logic you're using. Third, it's STILL a huge and faulty step in logic to say that all scribes mentioned after 1 Chron. 2.55 are Kenites.
MrScooterWolf 2 years ago
One More Time, it's very simple and easy to prove, according to the biblical scriptures ,scrolls of the book , that the majority of scribes, were Non-Hebrews . 1 Chron. 2:55 And the families of the [key word ] scribes....kenites. From this point,if anyone knows anything about the scriptures,knows Following Cyrus' decree in 426 BC to rebuild the temple in Jerusalem, Ezra and Nehemiah went back to Jerusalem, but they took with them only a REMNANT from the House of Judah
derekdb2 2 years ago
There were no Levitical priests among them. Ezra 8:15
And I gathered them together to the river than runneth to Ahava; and there abode we in tents three days: and I viewed the people, and the priests, and found there none of the sons of Levi. Ezra then sent some Nethinims, who were temple helpers, back to Babylon to get some Real Ministers, Levites The Nethinim brought back some Levites, but they did not come back with very many. The Scribes ,became the professional interpreters of the Law
derekdb2 2 years ago
Under the Asmonean rule the Sopherim ,The Scribes ,became the leaders of a new party called , " The Pharisees " . When the Kenites ,Scribes / Pharisees ,were admitted to the Sanhedrin , they began to make void the precepts of the Law . The "Traditions of the Elders" / " Oral Law " customs and interpretations, became greater then ,the teaching that Moses. The Pharisees referred to the Hebrew people as the "Am ha-aretz." This word is Hebrew and signifies"The Common People."
derekdb2 2 years ago
The scribes/ Kenites , had modified YHWH laws and even instituted laws and commandments of their own which were, diametrically opposite to the precepts of Moses. The Pharisees created the Beth Din ha-Gadol (Great Legislature) as a lawmaking, law-transmitting and law-confirming body - an institution they did not learn of from scripture.
derekdb2 2 years ago
The Kenites , had modified YHWH laws and even instituted laws (Oral Laws)Talmud ,and commandments of their own which were, diametrically opposite to the precepts of Moses. When Yahshua The Hebrew Messiah came , and contradicted ,there False Religion , they ,The Kenites ,wanted him Death at any cost .The Hebrew Messiah Yahshua himself identifies, These, Scribes and the Pharisees , the once who sit in Moses' seat ,as being Descendent's of Cain. John 8:44
derekdb2 2 years ago
Read With Understanding ,Who The Hebrew Messiah Yahshua , was disputing with.
John 8 : 33
They answered Him, We are Abrahams descendants, and have never been in bondage to anyone. How can You say, You will be made free?
These " Scribes/Pharisees" claim they were never in bondage, they cannot therefore be Hebrews, for it is well known that the Hebrews were in bondage in Egypt .The Kenites are the people Yahshua The Messiah will be against, as show in, Rev 2: 9 and Rev 3: 9 say they are jews
derekdb2 2 years ago
I could do a lot to poke holes in your logic here, but here are the real issues: Does the Bible actually say Satan mated with Eve? Don't say Gen. 3.13 and mention "beguiled", because the Hebrew term there is never used in a sexual sense, and the KJV translators would have used it meaning "used guile against me" (e.g. tricked me).
Second, how did any descendants of Cain survive the Flood? Why would God try to cleanse the earth of violence but usher the spawn of the devil aboard?
MrScooterWolf 2 years ago
The four different Hebrew verbs used in Genesis 8:1-8 to describe the receding of the flood waters indicate that these waters returned to their original sources. In other words, the waters of the flood are still to be found within the aquifers and troposphere and oceans of planet Earth. Since the total water content of the earth is only 22 percent of what would be needed for a global flood, it appears that the Genesis flood could not have been global.
derekdb2 2 years ago
The Biblical Scripture also shows , the Nephilim were on earth after the flood , that alone proves the flood was not Global .
If the floodwaters became the present oceans ,then all the freshwater fish would have had no place to find fresh water. A Global Flood would have caused great fluctuation in sea pressures ,many of the deep-sea creatures would have invariably die from the decompression when they would had to be brought to the surface.
derekdb2 2 years ago
Gen.8:1 it says, "YHWH made a wind to pass over the earth and the waters receded." Wind passing over a body of water will cause evaporation and then clouds form which can then dump the water elsewhere. If the whole earth was overlaid with water, how can a wind cause the water to recede . Keep in mind ,many of the sayings in the Biblical Scriptures are, Colloquialisms, and must be interpreted as so. It is a fact that the writers of scripture often used a form of speech known as Synecdoche.
derekdb2 2 years ago
Hebrew has many generic words that carry several meanings. The word "erets," which is translated as "earth" is throughout the flood account, which also means land, country, a region . Now Genesis 7:19, the waters "rose greatly ... and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered. The Hebrew word for "high," however, simply means elevated" and for "mountain," it means anything from "a small hillock" to "a towering peak."
derekdb2 2 years ago
derekdb2 @
++ "The Biblical Scripture also shows , the Nephilim were on earth after the flood , that alone proves the flood was not Global." ++
Genesis 6: 1-6 confirms that the Nephilim came into exsistence prior to the Great Flood of Noah. Thus these hybrid offspring humans would have died as the global flood came.
hume1947 2 years ago
If the flood was global, how did the flood water receded? How did the plants, trees,fresh water fish survived, with the salt water ?
Explain how the different races came to be? What about the fact that the Chinese period during the Yao Dynasty ,has no record of a cataclysmic flood. If the flood had been universal, all civilizations would have been destroyed along with their inventions, and civilization would have went back to the Stone Age and it would have taken centuries to recover
derekdb2 2 years ago
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Conquer it repenteth me to carry on so with you. I shall now stop for it places us both in sin for sowing seeds of discord among the brethren. Christians should not behave as such to one another, and although you do not consider me a Christian, I do. Peace Conquer.
Lizi99 2 years ago
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Lizi99 2 years ago
Now Conquer if you will excuse me, it is time for Bible Study. So I depart Youtube now for a break from you I need, and lesson's from the Bible I need even more.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi ?
are you angry?
I hope not. I gladly accept any question about what I believe. I have studied for many years. I know the voice, I follow it.
Many get angry when you challenge what they believe because they don't have knowledge about it, only what someone else told them.
I speak from what I know because the Holy Spirit is doing exactly what Jesus said HE would do. HE is my teacher.
Ever wonder why I can challenge your beliefs with scriptures? It isn't me, I'm not that smart.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
And Conquer, Christ and Father says if one sheep go astray will He not take the rest of the herd and pursue that one lost sheep. And you contend with me that Father will forsake me because of how I understand the word beguile? How many times will Christ forgive - 7 x 70. Pass not judgement upon this Christian child of God for it is not yours to render.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
the word is also for reproving, rebuking and learning. If someone tells you one of the words has a definition that is was NOT meant to have and changes the entire meaning, should no one challenge such an error? What if that error causes a person to develop all kinds of false beliefs because they prefer the new definition? Would they not in fact have wandered off the path of truth and now follow another gospel? Will Jesus accept one that walked away from Him to follow another gospel? no
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Yes Conquer it is your duty to plant that seed. But you can only plant it and be on your way. You can not make it grow or change man heart or mind necessarily. It is up to God to make that seed grow or change the heart for he is the "Heart Knower". How much damage do you do when you are trying to force this growth that is Gods job only? He is teaching you as well.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
there is not one mormon in heaven, all have gone to hell. The mormon God is not real, nor if the jesus they fabricated. They follow a cult.
If a man stopped your car and told you the bridge ahead had colapsed. Should he just smile and wave as you pass or do all he can to save your life?
If you are truly a reprobate, you can't be saved by me or anyone else because GOD is finished dealing with you. Maybe HE is and I should move along? Are you a reprobate? Do you know? Can you tell?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Conquer do you not realize that by how you judge the children of God thou wilst also be judged. Do you not see how you judge all these people to hell, yet God only is judge and knows their heart?
And I thank you for telling me the bridge has collapsed and will go and look upon such a thing.
Why are you vehemently beating on me again?
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
I have not judged anyone... only GOD can do that. But even I can know the difference in right and wrong, thanks to Eve. And to follow a false religion is to condemn ones self to eternal hell. I didn't damn them, they damned themselves. How can I say that? The Bible makes it very plain. I have repeated what it says.
I have compared what is done to the only real truth that can be trusted, God's word.
I thought we were discussing this, not "vehemently beating" each other.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Lizi
why did Paul say ... "come, let us reason. ?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Very informative and true to the holy Word of God.You made it so very clear .We must love the pure truth of the gospel.5 stars.
aflame4God 2 years ago
God Bless you brother! Thanks!
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Gen 3:6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Gen 3:7 And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
not sure where your going with this passage. The key words are "food", "pleasent to the eye", "and did eat". Zero reference to a sexual encounter with satan. God made the trees pleasent to the eyes and for food. Satan convinced her to eat fromthat one tree would make her like God, granting them the "knowledge of good and evil"... she considered that wise.
If she had immediately gone to the tree of life, she would have lived forever under God's curse. God knew and prevented them.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Hi Lizi!
Still beating this dead horse?
Here's one for you : Gen. 4:25
"And Adam knew his wife again; and she bare a son, and called his name Seth: For God, said she, hath appointed me ANOTHER SEED INSTEAD OF ABEL, whom Cain slew."
Now, Lizi...not everyone can see that, so don't be discouraged.
You are spot-on in your teachings :)
sentforth5 2 years ago
Thank you and hugz to you SF5.
Lizi99 2 years ago
SF5
Gen4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
So who is the father of Cain?
Adam unless your eyes have been blinded.
I never questioned who the father of Cain, Abel and Seth are... but you refuse to see that verses are exactly the same but 4:1 absolutely refutes your satan/seed theory.
It's interesting the "knew" means exactly the same thing in both places but YOU substitute satan for Adam to support the false doctrine.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Nowhere in the Word of God does it say Cain is the son of Adam. Show me scripture Conquer. She continued in labor and had Abel. She partook first, got booted from the garden then knew her husband. Cain and Abel were twins for all particular purposes, but not paternal twins. What are you hoping to accomplish here?
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
YES, it does say in scripture Adam is the father of Cain. The passage is virtually word for word in exactly the same way for the birth of Seth.
Genesis 4:1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the Lord.
I have repeatedly posted this passage but you can not see it. You have been unable to read or comprehend it to this date.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Not hardly -
Gen 5:3 And Adam lived a hundred and thirty years, and begat a son in his own likeness, after his image; and called his name Seth:
Apparently Eve's first child bared an image like unto his father (Lord), not Adam.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
you really can't stand the fact Cain and Abel are the son's of Adam.
Applying your "likness" theory, Abel was not the son of adam either by the mere fact the word "likness" is missing.
"ADAM KNEW HIS WIFE EVE AND SHE CONCIEVED..." How much more plain can GOD make it for you? Are you so determined to deny what the Holy Spirit wrote to perpetuate this false doctrine, you will go to any means to deny the written evidence?
Again, you presume Eve called satan lord, she KNEW better!
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Why did Eve not say look at our son Adam? She named Cain a son from the Lord. Which lord? And no I do not call Satan lord, but he calls himself the "bright morning star" and I think there is scripture were Christ references this as well. Satan copies everything so you have duplicate names even in Cain's childen as from Adam and Seth's children. But Satan is lord to 1/3 of God's children and 7000 fallen angels.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
there is not enough room in the Bible to write down every single word spoken between men & women, etc.
Could they have discussed how he had his mothers hair and his fathers nose? Yes. Important? No.
Satan sweet talked 1/3 of the angelic host to follow him. They were not "god's children", they were "God's creation." Angels are not born Lizi, they are created whole beings. The baby angels concept is purely man made.
Where do you get 7000 fallen angels, biblically?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
You are doing a noble thing trying to teach the real word of God to people who are clearly beguiled or deceived.
I read sentforth5 and Lizi99's comments and see who they are really following.
By putting Satan at the center of their bible study and understanding of the word of God shows who they are following.
Teaching vague possibilities as God's written word and completely ignoring the written word of God is an eye opener that Satan is among us and deceiving many.
fenderman77 2 years ago
God Bless you my friend!
Thanks for your encouraging words.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
One other thing Conquer, I do apologize for spaming you comments section, but not for what I am about to say.
It sickens me to my soul to see you link the Kenite tribe to that of Mother Mary. Do you not know how sinful that is? That will bring wrath upon your head Conquer and I do fear for you for the Christ you think will welcome you will bind you to a thing that will cause you gnashing of teeth.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
If you have found scriptures other than the ones I posted, please share them. Based on the posted scripture, the woman was a type of forerunner to Mary the mother of Jesus. If that offends you, your offence is misplaced unless you can actually give scriptural support other than the suppositions and theories of arnold murray.
There is NOT one scripture that indicates they were the slightest evil, except for the murrayite teachings which are fuylly guesses.
Back up or recant your claim.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Don't forgot Jesus's Words:
John 8:41 Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.
42 Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me.
43 Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
you take a lot of scripture out of context.
The scribes and parasees believed that because they were from the physical linage of Abraham, Issac and Jacob, they were safe. They thought that was sufficient. You think anyone that might be a kenite is evil, very similar way of looking at the world. When a person gets born again, they have a new father. The scribes & pharasees, were not born again. Question is, have you ever been? If not, your father is the same as theirs.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Oh Conquer, I was what you babes in the Word call born again in my early teens. I learned to repent for there is no denying the Holy Spirit. As for my Father, I will let him tell you of me Himself. And from your above statement - how dare you starve the Sheep because you think that you have special edification over those of the other children. May I remind you yet again Christ Jesus came for the lost and sinners, not to have high council in sitting parlors.
Lizi99 2 years ago
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Lizi99 2 years ago
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John 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do: he was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
Lizi99 2 years ago
St John 8: 45 And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46 Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me?
47 He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
Read the verse where Jesus is talking to Nicodemus. Jesus is explaining that if a man is not born again, he will not see the kingdom of God. Do you understand it or do you know what others told you it means? It's in John. That scripture holds a very precious memory for me. That pearl I will not share here.
I would face to face with other born again believers, not here.
So I ask, before the man was born again, who was his father? And after being born again, who is the Father?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
I very well understand about man being born again. Man is born from heaven above to flesh, which the fallen angels would not do, and God did through Christ Jesus. I will not see the blood line your way. It upsets me that you connect it to Mother Mary, I have told you how I feel and I won't be a part of that nonsense! Stay at me over it and I will have to avoid you all together.
Lizi99 2 years ago
I won't persue the mary thing further, its a moot point to me and only a supposition.
The born again definition is pretty different from what I find and know.
Jesus told Nic, lest a man be born again... So a man was born once and Jesus is saying he must be born a second time. Who was his first father and who is the second father. How do you get born again? Can you know if you have been born again and how?
BIG TIME questions! LOL
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Born again is my mistake, for it is a common reference to baptism. We dedicate ourselves to Christ through baptism (many think it to be a born again Christian). Man is born once from above to flesh and will die once in flesh. Exception is Elijah who did not die in flesh so it stands to reason he will come back as one of the two witnesses and die in the streets of Jerusalem. It translates lest man should be born from above...
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
then why did you walk away from the real gospel to follow doctrine of demons?
Is man born into sin?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Conquer
Why did you walk away from the Word of God to follow two brothers who built a religious doctrine from their sick sisters ramblings? The words Joseph Smith come to mind. Why do you ask that I go over the beguiling of Eve yet again? I wish not to slide all the way back to square one and trade blows with you throughout the scriptures. Ask God and he will tell you of me if it is his Will.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
I have no knowledge of the two brothers you mention. So to accuse me of following them is a bit rediculous.
God has told me of you Lizi. That's why I am here. You have been decieved.
Joseph Smith fabricated his own religion exactly the same way arnold murray has. He mixes scripture and does word associations to prove his is right by no oyther means than taking scripture out of context to make it say what he wants.
Using his technique, I can prove satan is not going to hell.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Lizi
"Why do you ask that I go over the beguiling of Eve yet again?"
Lizi, "beguiling" does not mean, imply, suggest or hint it is sexual in nature.
The "sexual" implication ONLY comes from the suppositional teachings of arnold murray and those following similar false doctrine.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Maybe you should go back to the word beguiled Lizi99 because it seems you completely missed what that word really means. Murray is terrible with word study he always gets it wrong.
He deceives people from the true Gospel. That's obvious
You have to be grounded in the word of God to really see this. Not grounded in Murray's Gospel of deception.
You will never know the truth if you don't look up what people are trying to tell you. Look it up for yourself and you will be amazed.
fenderman77 2 years ago
I do read and have been over this subject so many time already. Thank you for your concern but you are not going to change my mind. I put my education and understanding in Fathers hands and if I am wrong He will correct me.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
HE is trying to correct you.
Why do you think HE isn't?
The simple definition of "beguiled" is the perfect example of the LORD trying to let you see. How many time does HE have to ask? HE will not strive with you forever.
How do you explain the difference in the definition of the word "beguiled" and the definition Arnold Murry created?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Conquer - oh never mind. Thanks for your concern :)
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
you really can't see it can you?
This is the season of the return of Jesus.
Jesus said we should know the season.
We don't know the day or the hour, He told us we would not. But this is the season.
If you can't see the truth now, before HE comes, I don't think you ever will. I think HE will turn you over with all the rest to believe the lie and be damned. The Age of Grace is almost over. The angels will come at the end of the great tribulation and take the wicked away. Think
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Conquer we know the day, not the hour. Come on you have to know the day??????
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
I am guessing you are jesting.
If not, you are mistaken, again.
Scripture tells us we are supposed to know the season but no man knows the day or the hour.
One of the videos I watched was exceptional in pointing out the obvious that was difficult to see. You & your friends rediculed it.
At the end of the great tribulation, God's angels will gather the tates and cast tem into hell. (2 at the mill, 1 taken; 2 in the field, 1 taken.) Those left will enter the 1000 yr reign. You?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Christ returns on the third day of the two witnesses as they lay dead in the street then resurrect. And, anti-christ takes those people from the mill or field leaving one behind to work. Christ said how happy he will be to find us working in the field when he returns. Christ references those scriptures. John 8:44 is Christ referencing those of Satans bloodline for the devil is their father. But the ones taken from the field bother me most for you revel in it and it is an abomination.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
scripture indicates the 2 witness testify for 3 1/2 years. Finally God allows them to be killed. The world rejoices, 3 days later the rise from the dead and are watched as they ascend into heaven.
The event regarding the one taken, one left is at the end of the great tribulation. God's angels will gather the wicked and those that have rejected His Son and toss them into hell till the day of judgement. The remaining will enter into the 1000 yr reign with Christ and the Bride.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Also Conquer: The remaining will enter into the 1000 yr reign with Christ and the Bride. - Who will they teach and minister too if all the lost children have already been burned up in hell Conquer?
The "Great Day of Judgement" comes at the end of this 1000 years. Yet last year, last month, and yesterday YOU have cast Christian into hellfire (joyfully) as if it is your right for you desire to punish God's children who do not bend to your will.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
Why do you think every living being is a child of GOD that will be saved from the fires of Hell? Do you think those that reject His Son will all go to Heaven anyway?
As far as the 1000 yr reign. Only 2 besides Jesus will enter that time. The Bride and those that never made a choice for Christ and actually survived the great tribulation. I didn't say all are going to hell, just those that reject Christ, in false religions, cults & wicked will go 2 hell at end of the Grt Tribulation.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
I know that not every child of God's will be saved. But is it not the desire of God that all His children should come to repentance. Who is the only One that knoweth His childs heart right before that child dies? This is all supposition on your part for whatever labels you have attached to any given child of God He can readily detach in a blink of an eye. Plant your seeds and be done Conquer. The rest of their welfare is out of your hands.
You border on self righteous badly.
Lizi99 2 years ago
he fancys himself an inquisitioner for the cause, lizi, but never mind him - ; )
TheQandA4U 2 years ago
hahaha...how are you Q & A? :)
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
the question I asked you some time back, if you believed this; "The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did."
Do you know where I copied it from?
This was copied and pasted from "TheQandA4U" youtube webpage. Seems he believes it. Still think he is a fellow christian? You still like the thought of him as "your" christian brother?
Be careful who you call a Christian.
Conquer2day 2 years ago
You asked me that question. I have not gone to his page to study his comment, but I know as usual you are just keeping an eye out for me Conquer :) Thank you!!!
More importantly, you know how I feel. I think it is one thing we agree upon too. Christ Jesus accomplished so many things for us on so very many levels. I would not expect less of our Lord and King either. He was sent to show us the way and while he earned inheritance of the Kingdom, we fall way too short in earning Him.
Lizi99 2 years ago
@Lizi99 This guy is a self-righteous pharisee.
axe414 8 months ago
@axe414
AGREED. HE IS ALSO A SATANIC BLASPHEMER. HE SUPPOSES THESE PEOPLE WORSHI[[ED OUR FATHER BEFORE OUR PEOPLE DID!
RIGHT THERE... THIS MAN IS A HERETIC.
HE ALSO JUST HAPPENS TO SKIP OVER WHO THE SEED BECOMES AND DOESNT SEEM TO HAVE A CLUE WHAT THE WHOLE OF THE SCRIPTURE IS ABOUT... WHICH IS THE FACT MIXING BLOODLINES IS FORBIDDEN. YOU WILL NOTE ALLL ADAMIC SEEDS WHO MIX OUTSIDE OF THE BLOODLINE ARE KILLED, DAMNED AND OR CURSED FOREVER.
ONLY THE PURE SEED IS ISRAEL.
mrtruthify 8 months ago
@mrtruthify Personally I think anyone calling on the name of Our Lord Jesus Christ can be saved. Even the so-called kenites or whoever they are. I'm not here to argue with anyone. I think you go way off the simple Gospel of Jesus Christ. Are you a white supremacist? Do you believe that only white ''anglo-saxon'' Aryan race people can be saved? I think you should listen to this and see where this ''Christian identity'' comes from..
watch?v=OmsXHgnXmeo (WILLIAM COOPER on BRITISH ISRAELISM [1/4])
axe414 8 months ago
@axe414
THIS MAN IS ALSO A MORON. HE SAYS IN ONE SENTENCE KENITES MIGHT BE A FORRUNNER TO THE VIRGIN MARRY BLOODLINE. THEN HE SAYS THEY WERE ADOPTED BY ISRAEL AND ALLOWED TO MINISTER.
DO PEOPLE WHO MINISTER REALLY STILL NOT KNOW WHAT THE WORLD "ISRAEL" MEANS?
PEOPLE LIKE THIS SHOULD BE STRIPPED OF ANY RIGHT TO BLASPHEME AND LEAD OUR PEOPLE ASTRAY.
HE IS EITHER VERY UNEDUCATED IN THE WHOLE OF THE LAW OR HE IS A DECIEVER, SATAN. (MEANS ADVERSARY IN HEBREW).
mrtruthify 8 months ago
@mrtruthify why does scripture give two separate geniologies between cain's seed and seth's seed? Seth was of the geniology of Adam, for Adam's rib was the gene pool of Eve, and both had Abel. Scripture says that Seth was a replacement for Abel. Cain was the twin brother of Lucifer's seed, and that's why Father didn't accept cains sacrifice. God sayathat Satan was a MURDERER from the beginning...Think brothers and sisters, it all makes sense. Holy Spirit will teach. "Seek ye first I will addall"
godwithme777 7 months ago
Lizi
I got this from one of your fellow murrayites pages.
DO YOU BELIEVE THIS?
"The crucifixion of Jesus was an allegory, a symbolic event written to carry a hidden meaning. It did not physically happen, you are just meant to think it did."
Is this what you believe?
Did arnold murray teach this or is this his doctrine?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
DO NOT ASK ME ANY MORE STUPID QUESTIONS!!!!!
HELL NO I do not believe that crap!!!!!
What Christ did for us I take very seriously and will not have it belittled in such a way.
There are a lot of women prostitues. I am a woman. Do you judge me and all women under the same standard?
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
I did not accuse you... reread the post.
I asked a question. Its a legitimate question. A guy that post Arnold Murray sermons on youtube has that statement on his youtube page that he typed himself.
So, my question was:
Did you believe it as well? (apparently not.)
Is that an Arnold Murray bible instruction?
(perhaps you don't know what all murray teaches?)
It was NOT a stupid question. Perhaps you need to see what other murrayites are believing, maybe you think different?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
u tell 'em sister . . . - ; )
TheQandA4U 2 years ago
Lizi
anyone that goes to Hell and later to ther Lake of Fire do not burn up. They are immortal and they can not be burned up. They wil suffer for eternity for refusing the real Jesus, for false religions etc.
For a fact, there is NOT one single real Christian in Hell nor going to the Lake of Fire. The rest... well ... unless they wake up, repent and follow the real Jesus, they will go later.
The Bible says the ones going to hell will tell GOD, "How beautiful are the feet of the saints."
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Lizi
you take some too literal, what about those that work in offices & not in the fields?
The passage you refrenced you took out of context because you refuse to accept the promise of Jesus to be worthy and escape. Jesus said escape because He will come in the clouds and calls those looking for His return. Looking doesn't mean standing around waiting on the bus, its living, working and sharing the gospel. His Bride is doing that and looking for His call. We will be transformed, will you?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Escape? ESCAPE - we are to make Christ's enemies his FOOTSTOOL!!!!!!
So you know the day Christ returns, not the hour...admit it. Christ returns with a rod of iron in his hand. Everyone will be transformed for the end of flesh comes Conquer.
You are soooo reading the literal into it yourself. Have it your way Conquer.
What are you hoping to gain by tempting me Conquer?
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
you still haven't answered the question... why did Jesus say escape?
Do you really think you and others will take over this corrupt world before Jesus returns? Scripture says the world will wax worse and worse till Jesus comes back. Then HE will rule it with an iron rod... with His Bride working at His side.
The only thing I am tempoting you to do is think...
For example, why did Jesus come and die on the cross?
If everyone, according to your religion goes to heaven, why die?
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Lizi
a person going through the great tribulation will know the day of Christs return because the events that take place are very precise.
So why did Jesus tells the disciplies "no man knows the day or the hour"? Its because Jesus comes once to gather His bride... and no one knws the day or the hour.... then Jesus comes back to rule and reign... and that day is known.
TWO EVENTS. Unless your eyes are opened in time, you will go through the great tribulation and suffer terribly.
Concern!!!!
Conquer2day 2 years ago
Conquer we escape the great tribulation for it is for Satan and those who bow to him. We are protected and escape the death angel much like the Israelites did when Moses lead them out of Egypt. You are describing THREE ADVENTS!!!! Christ comes as a babe, and returns as a King with a "ROD OF IRON". 2 = two
You know what....escape, run away with anit-christ. He will let you be a great leader over the children just as thou desires.
Lizi99 2 years ago
Lizi
how do you escape the great tribulation?
What makes you think you are protected? Biblically?
3 advents?
1- Jesus comes and dies.
[Jesus takes His bride (marriage feast)]
3- Jesus returns to rule forever.
Jesus said "escape", not satan. If Jesus said "worthy to escape" why do you say satan said it?
There is no passage that hints or suggests satan will take people from the earth. That is a theory created by a man that doesn't understand scripture, evident by lack of proof.
Conquer2day 2 years ago