"Living Famously - Karen Carpenter" BBC Documentary (Pt 5)

[SolaceSoleil]

It sounds like no one really knew Karen Carpenter. Even her brother. She seemed like a very private person...

[Timberextra]

those close to Karen would NEVER disgrace her memory for the likes of this punk!!! anyone can watch the documentaries and embellish it for money, because dumb fucks like yourself bought the fucking book. did you find it under fiction?? fucking douche-bags!!!!!

[gacj2010]

He"s a real Jerk who led his sister Karen to worry , anxiety, and he killed her with his selfishness. He would have been nothing without her.

[Jonnykinski]

Richard is one weird guy. He looks anorexic as well

[richmanpoman1]

She was wearing bulky thick sweatsuits to hide her scrawny frame. Why such a talent was such a mess mentally. I don't get it.

[domdedomify]

I really like Karen's solo album, I think it's great with some brilliant performances.

[LastTree]

Did they release this ever?

[RaymondHng]

@LastTree Karen Carpenter's self-titled album was released in 1996. It is no longer in print in the United States.

[vmuto1]

Randy Schmidts the kind of guy that you would beat up in school. This guy is sooo scripted it's commical. Now year later he writes a book called Little Girl Blue & donate ZERO to eating disorders, yea like peeps say he had this book idea for a long time that would profit him himself & he,

[administrator5109]

Yeah I agree to the psychologist.. Because based on what I've read and heard so far about Karen Carpenter, she was really a sweet and nice person to be with..

[grdnzrnic]

What a shame not to release that record! A&M just wanted to keep her type-cast and was nervous that its release would hurt the "brand".

[yuukikanameflipflap]

In very great lines her story has something similar with lena Zavaroni.

[tjbooksandmore]

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[lcd2201]

theres only one singer today that can compare lives. its Celine Dion who also suffers from weight issues.

[louisa1832]

I think I listened to that solo album once and never went back to it. The choice of material was all wrong for Karen. What a wasted opportinity. With the treasury of Irving Berlin, Jerome Kern, Richard Rodgers, even some beautiful old folk music -- why didn't someone encourage Karen to sing that? Can you imagine what she could have done with "Annie Laurie" or Kern's "Once in a Blue Moon"? But no, they had to degrade her image. Thanks a lot.

[lcd2201]

@louisa1832 it was her choice not "they", you should respect Karens choices.

[louisa1832]

@lcd2201 I just think it's a shame, that's all.

[Wattanawit90]

what name of song on 1.17 

[DRSA5702]

@Wattanawit90 the songs called "this masquerade"...

[squitzy06]

Phil Ramone and the other fat a**hole that blames Herb Alpert for adding to Karen's problem are really the villains in this. "Let's turn a beautiful woman with a perfect voice and a goody 2 shoes rep into a slutty chanteuse." Hope you burn in hell big corporate man Phil and your lapdog fat boy.

[uncoverbrother]

why do i feel that that same record company who wouldn't release karen's solo record back then has released it since her death? the hypocrisy is crazy.

[uncoverbrother]

dang.  all that glitters ain't gold, i guess.

[falldownhard]

Too bad Karen and Mike Curb didn't end up together - they looked good for each other.

[Firehorse40]

They, especially she, had no idea how great they were.

[srv1959]

its funny that all these people acknowledged that she had a problem but did nothing about it.

[MrSteveUtah]

That Pych is one real BITCH ,What a friggen cow

[takumainc]

How could the duo have stopped working to have hiatus while lots of other people after money the duo earned were involved in this show biz?

[Mattyuk1]

psychiatrist is good

[MrSteveUtah]

@Mattyuk1 Wake up you nut job

[sponge2]

I always lol at the fact that they play "Calling Occupants..." right after discussing the quaalude addiction.

[norcalman415]

Seems like they really tried to down-play Richard's use of Quaaludes ... getting high wasn't a side effect, it was the point.

[TashaRichardsonFan]

Poor Karen:(

[sneyder69]

tablets or pills, its the same duh

[ssusan27]

sleeping tablets? Not sleeping pills?

[ssusan27]

Smelled really bad? Oh my gosh!

[RLviddy]

Seems like everyone around her was in a perpetual state of concern about her. That'd drive anyone up the wall, and might drive someone onto a destructive path. Every testimonial about her feels so patronizing. "She got married, and I thought, this would finally be something normal for her." Jeez. Did anyone just think of anything she did as just something she was doing?? It always had some deep, mystifying implications. Did anyone just leave her the hell alone to be herself?

[Sincopare]

I'm still pissed off that no one stopped her demise. It didn't need to happen, did it?

[blustarr09]

it's always easier to look back on something and see what you could have done differently. when you're going through something, you're not going to see all of it

[no1zgrl4eva]

I know that people who have been starved (ie. concentration camp victims) do smell bad - not sure why? And I didn't know anorexic people smelled badly - does anyone know more about that?

[pornokingish]

It's sad to think that money and popularity was all they cared about

[janietuesday]

I agree, that psychiatrist is enough to make anyone crazy!! She obviously didn't treat Karen Carpenter but is the self-appointed expert about EVERYTHING

[taberkuku]

@GaryNull you must be a drummer...I hear ya!

[damone77]

Don't take pharmeceuticals!  Drink Milk lol!

[AngeLsLuv]

There was a movie about them too. I think it was a tv movie..

[DEEP177]

LOL, Phil Ramone had produce a disco record with her, great job Phil

[choirlady1976]

I would say this is probably one of the BEST documentaries done on the carpenters to date, except they used too much footage from other documentaries, and I'd have rather heard more new interviews from perhaps the same people, or new people, to get a different feel to the story behind this amazing duo (music life and personal life.)

[abbakc]

I got the album and I love it! Especially "Remember when loving took all night" wow!

[redlion83]

Watch the "Karen and Richard Carpenter on this is your life part 3" on you tube----these parents were NOT huggers---coldness x 10. I think you are very right, and that posting is proof.

[shoponline831]

Poor, thing. It breaks my heart to know how unhappy she was. Had she been happy, she would've been able to recover. Supposedly she did in '82. But putting on 30 lbs in 6 weeks after years of starvation killed her.

[choirlady1976]

Karen died February 4th, 1983 at the age of 32, and yes she had been in recovery the year of '82 and had gained, and that combined with years of starving herself as well as supposed abuse of ipecac (not sure if that's been officially proven) and she had abused laxatives, so all of that cointributed to a cardiac arrest which sadly took her life...

[MOSKII58]

@shoponline831 you are correct from what i understand her weakened heart from yrs of starvation and abusing laxatives was further aggravated by the sudden weight gain.. they say you should only lose or gain 3-4 lbs a mth..for a reason..

[oranger2525]

the best point - they should have released it, and taken the "critical jabs"

than to not release it.

it must have hurt her (in Petula voice) in a profound way.

[kboyzrock]

Its so sad, I think if Karen had found a somewhat meaningful long term relationship with someone, perhaps she could have somehow gotten some support to cure this relatively unknown disease at that time, and perhaps we could still hear her sweet voice alive and well til this day.

[Radicalreels]

Karen's Solo Album is on CD!

Richard also had a Solo Album...(NOW)

But Together, they were perfect.

[GrossbergerXXX]

Well, it's official. Karen and Richard were a couple of f*cking fruitcases. That's according to this documentary anyway. Shameful.

[no1cfielder]

Oh, come on! Does anyone seriously believe that Agnes Carpenter supplied the pills to Richard at the height of his addiction?!

[Jenot59]

Listen, I think Agnes Carpenter gave her son Richard the first few ones, cause she just had them in the house. It was a perfectly normal drug for sleep in the 70's in America. So My guess is that he got the rest himself OFCOURSE!..Otherwise Agnes would have really been on his case, believe me! I am a Mum my self of some talented musicians in fact..so proud too...as she was of her Carpenters..........peace to you.

[no1cfielder]

Yes, I agree with your account regarding Richard, Agnes and the pills. Peace to you, too.

[shoponline831]

Actually I do believe it.

[no1cfielder]

Well, I think it's highly unlikely Agnes supplied Richard's pills at the height of his addiction. In Ray Coleman's biography of the Carpenters, he tells of the huge number of quaaludes he took; he could have died of an overdose.

[no1cfielder]

John Bettis talks about grabbing the money while they could, which was true, but Karen and Richard had seen their parents striving to earn enough money to get Richard's career launched, as his father worked an extra part-time job, so a strong work ethic was thoroughly instilled in them. There also was likely a feeling of therefore being obligated to their parents to make the most of their opportunity. He overlooks their enjoyment of performing their music, though.