stiu ca o sa ma injure toti si o sa spuna cat de rasist sunt, dar dupa parerea mea daca ar disparea tiganii, planeta asta ar fi putin putin mai buna, putin acolo...dar ar fi. Ar disparea o gramada de infractori, proxeneti, tarfe, hoti marunti, cersetori si o gramada de oameni care trag societatea in jos, care nu platesc taxe, care ocupa terenuri abuziv, care te fac sa-ti verifici buzunarele in autobuz sau sa te tii de nas cand trec sau stau pe langa tine...
@mihaifrancu o gramada din ce ai mentionat tu sunt romani puri, chill. sau nah... dupa cum ar zice unii, "moldoveni" (a nu se citi oameni din Moldova)
Du-te fratioru la balamuc..esti un rasist imputit...nu ai cultura..nu ai personalitate...mars la unditza...!Shukar collective este un proiect pe care voi , maimutzele , nu aveti cum sa il intelegeti! PACE!
@mihaifrancu n-o sa te injure multi, desi esti rasist si nu te flateaza o astfel de eticheta. iti poti exprima parerea in voie, dar hai sa incercam sa facem asta in alta parte. esti naiv sa crezi ca pe aceasta pagina ar trebui sa postezi ceva despre tigani, ca minoritate, locuitori ai planetei s.a.m.d. ma gandesc ca ar trebui sa discutam despre muzica pe care o fac baietii astia indiferent de culoarea pielii lor si sa incercam sa renuntam la acest vocabular ca nici el nu te complimenteaza. zic.
@bidi1492 respect pentru atitudinea fata de mihai francu. Mihai, sorry, nu vreau sa am de a face cu tine, te voi bloca pentru nu a primi comentarii sau note de la tine!
@roy22ro :)) guta e manelar acum,dar cand canta guta tiganesti si doine din banat era multi dintre noi erau copii mici,s-a stricat,dar nu poti compara pe tamango cu guta,tamango nici nu poate face trioleti pe timp cu vocea
shukar collective was the original idea of paul tanicui the director of this video. in 2002 he discovered gypsy singers Napoleon, Tamango and Clasic and bringed them together in SHUKAR until 2005 when was created SHUKAR COLLECTIVE (cristi stanciu, dan handrabur, dj vasile, vlaicu golcea)
we really have nothing to do with them unfortunately they do have a lot of money hence a lot of power in Romania It\s rather pointless to argue weather they are Romanian or not anymore What matters is that Romanians still have other ways and traditions much different from Gypsies. We educate ourselves, we work hard to earn a living, we don't steal and rape and murder as a life long tradition and we go to Europe to study not to steal ! Call me racist if you wish but I grew up with them and I know
I'm sure you could find similar statements from some white people in the southern states in the US in the 1950s talking about black people, or some white Bolivians talking about the indigenous minority. Sometimes social position gets confused with ethnic background in this way.
Also re: money; you may have grown up next door but you still mistakenly believe most Roma in Romania are rich. A small minority are rich. See for example a World Bank report entitled "Roma in an Expanding Europe: Breaking the Poverty Cycle " which shows that "[Romani] poverty rates are sometimes more than ten times that of non-Roma. For example, nearly 80 percent of Roma in Bulgaria and Romania live on less than 4.30 dollars per day."
Did u realize that the reason Gypsies are in the position they are today is because the Europeans were racist and segregated there population and they were always treated as second class citizens....forcing them to this way of life.....learn your facts you racist pig.
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now hold on man...if you have a man in you're back yard that steals from you when you're gone you don't offer him you're whole house:D...n second u better not be from america and talkin' about racism:))
Some of those people who left comments here should learn a little bit more about Roman Law, the ius solis and the ius sanguinis, so, let's see what Romania has, and why the Rom/Gypsies from Romania have Romanian passports
Yes, "Shukar Collective" is, but my understanding is they are a union of traditional older Romani musicians and younger, more electronic-based people who combined the 2 things. The older group may be called just "Sukar",as I remember.I know they have CDs out.
gypsy are not romanians. shukar collective is a very nice project indeed, but they are NOT romanians. they have their one traditions and culture, and their origins are definetly not in Romania. I like and respect they though, but let's make the difference between a gypsy and a romanian.
OK.I think the confusion comes from using"Romanian"as an ethnic epithet rather than meaning citizenship.
Zinedine Zidane is a French citizen=he is French(whatever that means!)albeit of Algerian origin.
Roma have been in Romania for at least 400 yrs.Those people are definitely Romanian, as in1)citizens and2)"from that country".
Besides,as in Spain+Hungary,I understand that Romanian Roma played an important role in preserving Romanian music/culture.Their 1000-year-old Indian origin is old news!!
they have been in the area that was later called "Romania" , since the country by that name and in that area did not exist before 1859 if I am not mistaken.
Roma (Rome) is in Italy, Romania is something else. Romanians came from Rome (actual Italy) and they established here, betwen danube, black sea, and carpats, but Romania as a country has been formed in 1859. After that, a lot of giosi came from India...but they are not romanians. If tomorrow I'll go in America and in a few years I'll have a child (with a romanian woman)...that child is not American because he was born there....he is going to have romanian blood...that's my point
It is about ethnicity. I am saying "Romanian" is an ambiguous term because it means 1)"ethnically Romanian" and also 2) "A citizen of Romania".
Your child would be considered a US citizen, ie. "American".
Yes, Rome is in Italy, roaming is on my cellphone, Romina is a woman's name..... And Roma, also known as Gypsies, have that name which is from Sanskrit and is around 1000 years old.
Documents show Roma (or Gypsies) in Romania from the early 1300s. -long before 1859.
damn, Shukar Collective e unul dintre cele mai misto experimente muzicale din ultimii ani. Sa creezi muzica electronica pura din muzica tiganeasca e o provocare pe care astia au reusit sa o indeplineasca calumea. De altfel, multi DJi seriosi sunt bagati in proiesctul Shukar Collective. Trecand peste impresia de "tigani borati/manele" prezenta serios pe aici, SK mi se pare muzica pentru oameni urbani, cu un nivel de inteligenta maricel.
E o discutie mai profunda pe tema asta cu tiganii. Din pacate majoritatea romanilor nu are nivelul de toleranta necesar pentu a accepta muzica tiganeasca adevarata. Un lucru e cert, e muzica pentru oameni destepti + deschisi la minte.
Atata timp cat isi pastreaza adevaratele lor valori si mai canta si in limba romanes (care este o limba foarte melodica) suna FOARTE bine. NU E MANEA apropo. Shukar colective group este un proiect foarte reusit bv bai tamango
TURN Cultural Association brings SHUKAR COLLECTIVE at the first edition of International Romani Art Festival, which will take place in Timisoara, during the period 31st of August- 6th of September.
tamango is no1
aotn0br 1 year ago
/ce tare zici ca e punjaby mc
KEEVVY 1 year ago
Asta o rupt normele la viatza lui \:d/ dai ca merge tamp tamp tame:X
TACOTATACOTA 1 year ago
Music,editing and production by Dan Handrabur.
Words by Radu Vasile [ Tamango ] taken from the album Urban Gypsy 2005 signed by Riverboat records/World Music network Uk
cristinahandrabur 1 year ago
unii din voi tre' sa se gandeasca serios la mica mare diferenta dintre manele si muzica tiganeasca. shukar collective for the win!
veshflanders 1 year ago 4
videoclipu e badasssss
eLeSlash 1 year ago
Bravo Ioane... cine stie cunoaste si... e de la ei ;)
DCAmember 1 year ago
stiu ca o sa ma injure toti si o sa spuna cat de rasist sunt, dar dupa parerea mea daca ar disparea tiganii, planeta asta ar fi putin putin mai buna, putin acolo...dar ar fi. Ar disparea o gramada de infractori, proxeneti, tarfe, hoti marunti, cersetori si o gramada de oameni care trag societatea in jos, care nu platesc taxe, care ocupa terenuri abuziv, care te fac sa-ti verifici buzunarele in autobuz sau sa te tii de nas cand trec sau stau pe langa tine...
mihaifrancu 1 year ago 2
@mihaifrancu o gramada din ce ai mentionat tu sunt romani puri, chill. sau nah... dupa cum ar zice unii, "moldoveni" (a nu se citi oameni din Moldova)
veshflanders 1 year ago
@mihaifrancu
Du-te fratioru la balamuc..esti un rasist imputit...nu ai cultura..nu ai personalitate...mars la unditza...!Shukar collective este un proiect pe care voi , maimutzele , nu aveti cum sa il intelegeti! PACE!
ursulet450 1 year ago
@mihaifrancu n-o sa te injure multi, desi esti rasist si nu te flateaza o astfel de eticheta. iti poti exprima parerea in voie, dar hai sa incercam sa facem asta in alta parte. esti naiv sa crezi ca pe aceasta pagina ar trebui sa postezi ceva despre tigani, ca minoritate, locuitori ai planetei s.a.m.d. ma gandesc ca ar trebui sa discutam despre muzica pe care o fac baietii astia indiferent de culoarea pielii lor si sa incercam sa renuntam la acest vocabular ca nici el nu te complimenteaza. zic.
bidi1492 1 year ago
@bidi1492 respect pentru atitudinea fata de mihai francu. Mihai, sorry, nu vreau sa am de a face cu tine, te voi bloca pentru nu a primi comentarii sau note de la tine!
balak1 1 year ago
@mihaifrancu prietene esti tare prost
tarfele existau de pe vremea stra stra stra stra bunicilor tai
de altfel e cea mai veche meserie din lume (MARIA MAGDALENA era tarfa)
majoritatea crimelor si infractiunilor st comise de romani(asta ca sa fiu pe intelesul puritatii tale)
nu toti tiganii st nespalati cum de altfel nici toti romanii nu s curati
etc...
MrAlias2009 1 year ago
Clever, creative and fun!
JupiterHormone 1 year ago
loll super tareee tineoo tot asa >:)
xXxPureEcstacyxXx 1 year ago
it,s sound' s great.................5/5
MrGoodfather22 1 year ago
respect.
Larryy1992 1 year ago
Oare cand ii aude manelaru ala jegos numit Guta nu ii rusine asa.Ar trebui sa stea cu capul in pamant ca strutul fata de Tamango
roy22ro 1 year ago
@roy22ro :)) guta e manelar acum,dar cand canta guta tiganesti si doine din banat era multi dintre noi erau copii mici,s-a stricat,dar nu poti compara pe tamango cu guta,tamango nici nu poate face trioleti pe timp cu vocea
blackeddz1 1 year ago
great bass!
angelb650650 1 year ago 2
buna piesa...te incita la miscare.
respect shukar pt ceea ce faceti,daca unii redusii nu pot aprecia muzica ei pierd,noi restul we enjoy it.
pierdutdemama 1 year ago
Love it !!!!!!!!!!!!
fasteddy60 1 year ago 3
Ez a Tamango nagyon nagy forma ......xD Román Győzike....:DD
TigryncsBp 1 year ago
ta ta tyyy tatamangooooooooo :X::X :))))
adiasasin 2 years ago 3
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ce prostie =))))))))))))))
dmR0315 2 years ago
man, this i would say is can be a new style, he have his style of sound..... Big UP and be cool... Drum´n´Bass FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
igoras85 2 years ago 3
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This is the creepiest shit I've seen in the last 4 hours.
mspecia 2 years ago
Makes Beck seem kinda tame, don't it?
badmuthahubbard 2 years ago 2
nice
SorDotBz 2 years ago 2
That fucking bothers =D
Decebal88 2 years ago
fain..original
adiasasin 2 years ago
tamango , numa el apare pe ceilalti ii doare in pula , dar tot el reprezinta sukar collective , respect tamango
alexandru585 2 years ago
TAMANGO CEL MAI TAREEEEEEEE!!!
Rashtei 2 years ago
oh just listen de music don't talk about racism..
nch1991 2 years ago 7
written& directed- paul tanicui
dop- oleg mutu
editor- dana bunescu
puppeteer- gabi apostol
puppets manufactured- bogdan iacob
set design- vlad chirca
executive producer- marius "tiganu"
shukar collective was the original idea of paul tanicui the director of this video. in 2002 he discovered gypsy singers Napoleon, Tamango and Clasic and bringed them together in SHUKAR until 2005 when was created SHUKAR COLLECTIVE (cristi stanciu, dan handrabur, dj vasile, vlaicu golcea)
coffeepot212 2 years ago 4
taci sau te scuip fack in gura ta
jilipollas,chupame la polla,tonto
copilumontera92 2 years ago
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fucking gypsi
TaciSauTeScuip 2 years ago
we really have nothing to do with them unfortunately they do have a lot of money hence a lot of power in Romania It\s rather pointless to argue weather they are Romanian or not anymore What matters is that Romanians still have other ways and traditions much different from Gypsies. We educate ourselves, we work hard to earn a living, we don't steal and rape and murder as a life long tradition and we go to Europe to study not to steal ! Call me racist if you wish but I grew up with them and I know
djsneeze 2 years ago
I'm sure you could find similar statements from some white people in the southern states in the US in the 1950s talking about black people, or some white Bolivians talking about the indigenous minority. Sometimes social position gets confused with ethnic background in this way.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
[Oops -I meant indigenous majority of course!]
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
Also re: money; you may have grown up next door but you still mistakenly believe most Roma in Romania are rich. A small minority are rich. See for example a World Bank report entitled "Roma in an Expanding Europe: Breaking the Poverty Cycle " which shows that "[Romani] poverty rates are sometimes more than ten times that of non-Roma. For example, nearly 80 percent of Roma in Bulgaria and Romania live on less than 4.30 dollars per day."
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
Did u realize that the reason Gypsies are in the position they are today is because the Europeans were racist and segregated there population and they were always treated as second class citizens....forcing them to this way of life.....learn your facts you racist pig.
true1aryan 2 years ago 6
oh, shut up
ciprian88 2 years ago
what are you talking about?
gabitoghina 2 years ago
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now hold on man...if you have a man in you're back yard that steals from you when you're gone you don't offer him you're whole house:D...n second u better not be from america and talkin' about racism:))
kobayne1 1 year ago
hup hap hup hup nearticulate loooollll :=)) :=)) :=)) very nice song
gargarita12 2 years ago
Some of those people who left comments here should learn a little bit more about Roman Law, the ius solis and the ius sanguinis, so, let's see what Romania has, and why the Rom/Gypsies from Romania have Romanian passports
LoljaBernalJohnson 2 years ago 3
Electro Gypsy Dance? that's hillarious... =))))))
mortiimasii 2 years ago 2
super tare !
deejayshoby 3 years ago 2
nu e vb nici de manele nici de cocalari ....e vb de un proiect f tare ....care suna exceptional
Andyrom 3 years ago 33
Shukar colective...
Shukar, shukar ta MISTHO'!!!
OAmalGadjo 3 years ago 4
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prea penal
warmfuzzy1223 3 years ago
sa-nteleg ca tie iti conveneau mai mult manelele...
cessiatat 3 years ago 3
prea cufundat in doctrina tzaraneasca esti tu
nittzzu 3 years ago
Shukar Collective = great project!!!!
sauronhall 3 years ago 8
this is the best group ever
Debelqk 3 years ago 3
no,it's the beatles.
ningeaBLADEclanuBECA 2 years ago
I want to find the original Sukar's songs, "unmixed"...are there any on youtube? Thanks.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 3 years ago
these are the original songs, "unmixed", because shukar collective is an Electro Gypsy Dance band (that's what they call themselves)
bullcrap0 3 years ago 4
Yes, "Shukar Collective" is, but my understanding is they are a union of traditional older Romani musicians and younger, more electronic-based people who combined the 2 things. The older group may be called just "Sukar",as I remember.I know they have CDs out.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 3 years ago
gypsy are not romanians. shukar collective is a very nice project indeed, but they are NOT romanians. they have their one traditions and culture, and their origins are definetly not in Romania. I like and respect they though, but let's make the difference between a gypsy and a romanian.
dantu2005 2 years ago
OK.I think the confusion comes from using"Romanian"as an ethnic epithet rather than meaning citizenship.
Zinedine Zidane is a French citizen=he is French(whatever that means!)albeit of Algerian origin.
Roma have been in Romania for at least 400 yrs.Those people are definitely Romanian, as in1)citizens and2)"from that country".
Besides,as in Spain+Hungary,I understand that Romanian Roma played an important role in preserving Romanian music/culture.Their 1000-year-old Indian origin is old news!!
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 4
"Roma have been in Romania for at least 400 yrs."
-correction:
they have been in the area that was later called "Romania" , since the country by that name and in that area did not exist before 1859 if I am not mistaken.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 2
Roma (Rome) is in Italy, Romania is something else. Romanians came from Rome (actual Italy) and they established here, betwen danube, black sea, and carpats, but Romania as a country has been formed in 1859. After that, a lot of giosi came from India...but they are not romanians. If tomorrow I'll go in America and in a few years I'll have a child (with a romanian woman)...that child is not American because he was born there....he is going to have romanian blood...that's my point
dantu2005 2 years ago
I see your point.
It is about ethnicity. I am saying "Romanian" is an ambiguous term because it means 1)"ethnically Romanian" and also 2) "A citizen of Romania".
Your child would be considered a US citizen, ie. "American".
Yes, Rome is in Italy, roaming is on my cellphone, Romina is a woman's name..... And Roma, also known as Gypsies, have that name which is from Sanskrit and is around 1000 years old.
Documents show Roma (or Gypsies) in Romania from the early 1300s. -long before 1859.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago 3
I totally agree with your statements!
LoljaBernalJohnson 2 years ago 3
these are the original songs. the 2 vocals are part of the group
bibishte 2 years ago
If I can find the CDs again by the group called just "Shukar", I'll post more info on here.
NicosNicosNicosNicos 2 years ago
bv ajaaaaaaaa DAI TAMANGOOOOOOO:X:X:X
baloonyvlt93 3 years ago 4
damn, Shukar Collective e unul dintre cele mai misto experimente muzicale din ultimii ani. Sa creezi muzica electronica pura din muzica tiganeasca e o provocare pe care astia au reusit sa o indeplineasca calumea. De altfel, multi DJi seriosi sunt bagati in proiesctul Shukar Collective. Trecand peste impresia de "tigani borati/manele" prezenta serios pe aici, SK mi se pare muzica pentru oameni urbani, cu un nivel de inteligenta maricel.
nekrotheundead 3 years ago 48
E o discutie mai profunda pe tema asta cu tiganii. Din pacate majoritatea romanilor nu are nivelul de toleranta necesar pentu a accepta muzica tiganeasca adevarata. Un lucru e cert, e muzica pentru oameni destepti + deschisi la minte.
grecuromulus 3 years ago 6
damn some K and mushrooms and this the way to nirvana
kidding , the music is enough .... or am i ?
nimenialturo 3 years ago 4
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ratangii manelari anemici ma ia cu durere de cap muzik asta bv capslock86 esti de-al meu'
sagadih 3 years ago
alt talentat :|
UnAmarit 3 years ago
me encanto
queenarap 3 years ago
exelent
tortuga1313 3 years ago 2
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What the fuck is this gypsy shit?!
capslock86 4 years ago
casplock86 .. your mother :(
p0x0 4 years ago
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WoW, that is the worst dis anyone can say!
I mean there is nothing leading up to it, you just say it LOL
Fuck you ya dumb son of a raped fat whore gypsy drug using slut!
capslock86 4 years ago
Fuck off... Dumbass...
ilv1 4 years ago
How is your mother today because yesterday it was not so good in bed:X
moskvalenin 4 years ago
it's gipsys way of saying suck shit u cocksmoker
theduke723 4 years ago
il omoara tiganii daca il prind pe-asta :)
espert88 4 years ago
extraordinar !!!
romanianitinerary 4 years ago
Cheers 4 puting this vid up what a beauty!!!!!
kingskinny 4 years ago 4
Gypsies hate being called "roma". Ask Tamango, sheesh.
teknought 4 years ago 3
Atata timp cat isi pastreaza adevaratele lor valori si mai canta si in limba romanes (care este o limba foarte melodica) suna FOARTE bine. NU E MANEA apropo. Shukar colective group este un proiect foarte reusit bv bai tamango
blackwotan 4 years ago 6
malademna si melodia asta sunt cele mai frumoase :X:X:X:X i love shukar collective...
brunneta 4 years ago
Good production qualities but weird and musically mediocre; try the real thing: Ionica Minune, Taraf de haiduci, Botgros, etc
manofTao 4 years ago
coool romanian gipsy
bahaosss 4 years ago 3
please don't call them gypsies
Vladutz2000 4 years ago
They are gypsies. Lol.
teknought 4 years ago 3
cool!!!!! super, danke!!!
natalchen 4 years ago
superb :)
cessiatat 4 years ago
TOT respectul pentru muzica asta !
udirmusa 4 years ago 2
AWESOME!
mpgarate 4 years ago
TURN Cultural Association brings SHUKAR COLLECTIVE at the first edition of International Romani Art Festival, which will take place in Timisoara, during the period 31st of August- 6th of September.
gavrilac 4 years ago
grandi!!!!!
giorgiopup 4 years ago
Strange, and a bit scary... I love it.
TheLittleRussian 4 years ago
lil'fuckin'gipsy.....huuaaaaaa
papikooocta 4 years ago
ahhahaha best :)
vebovski 4 years ago
tare de tot electro gipsy \:d/..tamango rullz
alcool24hh 4 years ago 2
tamango cel mai tare... nu credeam ca muzica tiganeasca ii asa de tare
troscom 4 years ago
really good song...this kind of Rroma people deserve all the respect in the world :)
parazitzii 4 years ago
Misto , nu stiam de ei... multumesc pt upload!
bozghiyy 4 years ago
ce fain! imi place mult si muzica si videoclipul!
jasminemortazavi 5 years ago
:/
NeikoDarkstar 5 years ago
bine le mai zici Tamango!
danmale34 5 years ago
I love this. x3
Shukar Collecive is <3 ! XD
Kenpatchi 5 years ago
misto...cine stie, cunoaste :D
fictivictimvision 5 years ago
Why?? I like it.... in a way. :) Ce mie mi-a placut putin. :D
greenNight1990 5 years ago
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please fucking delete this video, its harming mentally, im seriously going to kill myself if you dont take this off
mellowclix 5 years ago
kill yourself :P
naemanivela 4 years ago 5
um i feel like i just did ecxstasy
courtneyla 5 years ago 2