TEXAS RANGERS PT 1`

[PanVet100]

Maybe now there is enough land, but not in the past. Wars have been fought over land for thousands of years and Anglo Americans clearly didn't have a monopoly on land grabs or brutality toward local inhabitants. Look at the Greeks, Romans, Huns, Turks, Aztecs, Celts, etc. in their histories of invading weaker peoples. The suppression of Native Americans was a horrible thing, but I think some people harp on it, to make themselves feel better about their wars on native peoples in their countries.

[kkbm9]

that song have a name

[PanVet100]

Wow! Ten votes above. I guess that's good. Thanks fellas.

[PanVet100]

Exposing an obnoxious ranter and hater as a cigar store Indian sure brings about a bit of silence. I'm sure it won't last. : D

[PanVet100]

By the way MrChaos. You've proved yourself a bit of a phony. In your droning, sometimes nonsensical video you say you're only "part Indian". I'm assuming that's why you fail to show your face in the pro-Indian/ anti-Anglo rants. In the obscured vid you look like just another sad, middle-aged, chain-smoking, bald Anglo that's mad at the world. I've met many full Indians, but never a bald one. My Indian connections seem deeper than yours, so your no longer worth my time. I also hate fakes! Bye.

[PanVet100]

I want to amuse you. I've been dancing around your chaotic posts like Cagney and giving you some Irish licks. Judging from your writing here and the mumbling bad sentences on your video I think my command of English exceeds yours by a few degrees. I can convey more in a sentence than you can in a few paragraphs. You also seem very dense. You're not a racist because you hate the rangers, but because you don't value the opinions of other races and denigrate them with racial slurs like apple boy.

[PanVet100]

Some of you guys disparaging the rangers and their great history are remarkably ignorant of the service. They protected the Texas colony, republic and state from its creation until the present. Clearly we wouldn't have one of the best and most interesting states in the US if not for the rangers. It might do you petty race-baters to know that in the early years many Hispanics, Indians and some Blacks served has rangers against the common enemies of Texas. Put that in yer d@mn pipes and smoke it.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 That was later years, the original formation of the Texas Rangers was to kill the Native Americans, mainly the Comanche. They would show no prejudice towards elderly, children, women, etc... I just think it's sad that people will ignore the fact that they were originally meant as a roaming death squad. They say they were formed to protect their land....how do you protect land from those who it belongs to?

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667

That's where you're wrong and you should read some recent books on the rangers or do your own research as I've done. Austin's rangers were a small group, but various minorities began serving in the rangers in the 1830s and 40s. They dished out some of the same brutal frontier warfare the Comanches dealt to other tribes, Mexicans and Anglo pioneers. The Comanches weren't choir boys, but tough warriors living off the labors and horses of others. Sorry, but they never owned Texas.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 They didn't own Texas, nobody did. The Comanches only dealt out brutal warfare to those who encroached on their lands. Since the Anglo settlers did not like the thought of having to actually halt their domination over America, they formed death squads....I mean the Texas Rangers. Our horses were mainly ours, except for the ones gained during raids. The Comanche actually were renowned horse breeders. Do some non-Eurocentric research.

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667

Well, you're contradicting yourself there amigo. You stated yesterday that the land or Texas "belonged" to them and then you said it again today by saying: "The Comanches only dealt out brutal warfare to those who encroached on their lands", so I think you truly believe it. I've got a newsflash for you!!! Nobody really owns land. We only rent it for short/ long periods from banks/ governments until someone takes it. Sadly, it's been that way for thousands of years around the world.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 Wow, I have never seen someone so naive. There is a sociopolitical structure called egalitarianism, whereas there is no stone solid ownership, although there is territory. Look up Comancheria, or even Apacheria; both were territories controlled by the respective tribes. The Comanche were warriors, they can even be called the Spartans of the Plains. Back to ownership; it is a capitalist ideology, which is a European invention.

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667 You haven't seen me or met me so your knowledge of my naivety and intellect is extremely limited. You however are the one that has been contradictory in posts, which makes you hard to pin down. They owned TX, they didn't own TX, they owned TX, etc. You mean the Comancheria and Apacheria were tribal territories? I thought they were empressario colonies or part of Bexar. I think you should probably stick to your fun race-bating like the rangers were Nazis, death squads and KKK. Bye.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 I cleared that up actually, since you are apparently too dimwitted to fully comprehend what I am trying to convey. Also, I never stated that they owned it, again, ownership is a capitalist ideology whilst the Natives were egalitarians. Think of it as a dog, it has no sense of ownership, but you step on its territory and it'll bite/attack you. It's ok if you don't want to tangle wits, I commend you for knowing when your outmatched. :)

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667

No, you clearly implied that they owned this land or TX and now it's public record here. Being that you have devolved into backtracking, rambling and childish name-calling I can only assume that you haven't the wits to "tangle" with me intelligently. Not only am I part American Indian, Jewish, Anglo and a historian, I'm also a combat veteran, who probably knows more about war and suffering than you ever will. My only hope is that you can tone down the racial hate on You Tube. Bye!!

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 I went back and never implied it, you are reading too far into my words to give your argument validity. The "back-tracking", "rambling" and "childish name-calling" is another attempt to give your argument more validity than mine, I merely called you dimwitted, since you were unable to take the context of my words as they are, not as you want them to be. Your or my ethnicity or combat status has any bearing on true facts.

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667

Man, you typed 3 rambling posts in an hour Sunday. With your profile's odd vids/ many posts you need to get a life or maybe a job. Do something constructive beyond the constant whining on how the White man done you wrong. Deal with it. You clearly implied 5 days ago that TX "belonged" to the them and all you can do now is admit you were wrong. My ethnicity is just as relevant as yours on this topic you racist hypocrite. I know exactly what you're about but you know little about me.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 Don't make me laugh. I typed 3 "rambling posts" because of the character limits and sometimes 500 characters is not enough to convey my message. I do have a job, I actually come back and forth to the site maybe 3 times in a day (not including going back and forth or resetting my browser). I never implied anything, it's on your poor sense of context. The fact that I am not an apple does not make me racist, your asinine assumptions are amusing. Dance some more for me apple boy

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 Also, just because I dislike one group of people in the past that was known for their genocidal ways, does not make me a racist. Now who is resorting to childish tactics?

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 In all reality, I speak of the Texas Rangers original intentions. Even without the text in books, the intentions were evident. How do you "protect" land from people who inhabit it already? How can you tell a entire race that their ways are wrong and set up schools to integrate them into "white/Christian society"? People, even historians fail to ask these questions to see the true intent. Genocide may be debatable , but the ethnocide and death camps were 100% truth.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 Remember history is written by the victors, who are then made to look like heroes. If I went to your house, robbed it, killed your family and then had you arrested for trespassing. Then to top it off, they force you to live in the projects. What the Rangers and US Government did to the Natives is only rivaled by the Holocaust, and the sad part.....the "Nazis" in the case are the heroes. I regard the Texas Rangers on the same level as the KKK or Neo-Nazis.

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667

That phrase is so cliche that I'm surprised you use it. In this circumstance, here's a better one: History is written by the literate. Please direct me to a book written in English or Comanche by a warrior that fought the rangers in the 30s or 40s and I'd love to read it and get their true perspective on the conflict. You bring forth a strange scenario about robbing and killing my family, but having the illusion of home ownership, barred windows, a 380 and dog you wouldn't get far.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 The phrase is cliche, but true to an extent. A good book that was recently written, but is very informative is "The Conquest of Texas: Ethnic Cleansing in the Promised Land". Read about the San Antonio Council House Fight, it's not a book, but a short depiction of what my ancestors went through. The scenario came up was quite on par with what I am talking about, it just makes you see it from another perspective.

[PanVet100]

@MrChaos667

So no contemporary or Comanche source? Somehow I knew you had read Anderson's biased and mistake-riddled book by your tone. A case in point, Anderson doesn't even know where the battle of Walker Creek was fought, where Sam Walker was imprisoned in MX or where the Colt 5-shot pistol was developed. Ugh! he definitely needs to work on research. I think I read about the tragic Council House Massacre when I was eight and wouldn't call it a mere fight. Lamar should have been impeached.

[MrChaos667]

@PanVet100 I could link you to a historian friend of mines site, she has a log of many books that detail the heritage and history of my people. Although, I see you choose one bias over another, which is quite funny that you criticize me for doing the same. Sure he could not place a battle or where someone was imprisoned, but the basis of his book was the genocide and ethnocide of the Texas frontier.

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

@PanVet100

I think there must be made some differentation. Some Rangers were murderers, others not. But it´s a shame that a racist and murderer like John r.i.p. Ford is still honoured in the Texas Ranger Hall of Fame. And by the way, how would you like it if i would migrate into the US, and then suddenly start my own country there? Would you like that? That´s what Texans did in Mexico. MExicans were there before and more than that, native americans were there before!

[PanVet100]

@Stevenoodlesgrunow

Everone is a racist to some degree and especially in previous centuries, but how was Rip Ford a murderer? I don't recall that he was ever charged or convicted with such a crime. He was clearly a fighter and a killer, who believed he was justified in defending his home in the same manner as the Comanche. Many killers are honored in American and world history in books, websites, museums, statues, city names, etc., etc., but that doesn't mean that you have to like them.

[PanVet100]

@Stevenoodlesgrunow PS. I obviously wouldn't like your coming here and then setting up a country, but would try to prevent it. Read your history, invasions happen and governments change. Some of my ancestors have been in America for thousands of years and others for only for a few hundred. Everyone is from somewhere else and people were pushed out to make a home. Indians moved out Indians, Mexico kicked out Indians and Texans defeated Mexico. The harsh reality is- defend your land or lose it.

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

@PanVet100

I think there was and is enough land for all. But the european americans didn´t want to share the land. They gave the worst, most dry or swamp land to the indians.

[Armigerous]

One riot,one Ranger

[MrChaos667]

Texas Rangers....they gave the Nazi's the idea for Genocide. They slaughtered thousands of Native Americans. Men, Women, Children....they killed them all.

[TCgetonmylevel]

i fuckin love it! the haters are here in huge numbers, and are so jealous, they not only watched thre video, green with envy but left comments hating on the GREATEST law enforcement legends on the planet! fucking hilarious!

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

@TCgetonmylevel

You and your texas ranger Nazis were and are haters, haters of indians and mexicans. Nice to remember the day, the Texas Rangers were defeated in 1877, during the san elizario salt war.

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

I drawed a comic, a western that is also telling the truth about the texas rangers. In my comic there´s some justice. My hero, Samuel Bastard, shoots down texas rangers there, hahaha!!!

[Jmb6121]

Massachusetts State Police...wow, bet they were fearsome

[ilegworldchamp]

Massachusetts State Police are the oldest State Police formed in 1865. The Texas Rangers were not Law Enforcement till May 1874. The time prior to that that date they were a Military unit.

[travlnhank]

@ilegworldchamp , there were no rampaging indians, or mexicans, or anything else in Mass. when you're state police were org. We down here in Texas never refer to our rangers as a military unit, lol, that's obsurd even though they were very intstrumental in winning the Mex. War. I understand that most states envy and covet our traditions and legends, but nonetheless the Texas Rangers were the best law enforcement team ever gathered in the history of the US or anywhere else, and notibly still R

[MrChaos667]

@travlnhank The Texas Rangers are equally compared to the Nazi SS. They are a blemish on our states history. Oh, and for the record, I am Conservative.

[whitt702]

I found this interesting. When you can only die once, it should be for a good cause. Maybe "Walker" was not as fictious as we first though.

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

This news report is very propagandistical. It doesn´t show the crimes that Texas Rangers did, especially to the native americans. Some or many of the Rangers murdered innocent natives like at the so called battle at the pease river 1860. And that wasn´t the only massacre.

[travlnhank]

@Stevenoodlesgrunow , another idiot that doesnt know his history, crimes indians committed were just as atrocious and that was over 100yrs ago, so are you full blooded indian?  just like I thought, lol.

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

@travlnhank

I´m not indian aniway, you fucking rightwing pig. There where much more crimes by whites than by indians. But i know, dealing honestly with history isn´t easy. Like germans had to confront themselfes with the Nazicrimes, white americans still must confront themselves with their main national crime, the genocide on the american indigenious people. The truth ain´t easy to see for the descendants of the murderers.

[MrChaos667]

@travlnhank Actually they weren't. The crimes committed by the Texas Nazis were 100times worse. My people never killed a child, the Texas Nazis did. They were formed for the soul purpose of slaughtering and eradicating the Comanche from Texas. They did a piss poor job, like always.

[nomadnametab]

Good Lord, seldomseesnow is a class A dumbass. You can't be Barney Fife or Sherrif Roscoe P. Coletraine , Hee heeee, and even bother to apply. The history of the Rangers shows that they do get the best shots, the most determined and intelligent and experienced officers. Ever hear of the one who had a WWII bazooka and used it on a crazed gunman hold up in a house? I know a lot of stories from the son of one that make Clint Eastwood look like PeeWee Herman. I think their record is evidence.

[txfire2254]

Y'all don't know much about the Texas Rangers. A little about the history of the Rangers: Founded in 1823 by Stephen F. Austin. They are still in service today as peace officers under the Texas Dept of Public Safety. They are the pride of Texas Law Enforcement and set the tone for the model peace officer. They have come more of a investigation unit then the days of old. There are still Cattle Rangers who are Special Rangers who are paid by the Cattle Association and there is only 50 of them.

[norbertorobles]

texas rangers are murderers of mexicans, and stole mexican land for the gov. got rich off our land with cattle, farming, and then oil, we are americans way before you, go back to europe, get off our continent, you salt water wet back.

[travlnhank]

@norbertorobles, another wannabe liberal that never faced any danger or lived in Texas, Mexicans were and still are un repentent murderers, lol watch your news channel idiot, and were did you come from? Spain, Portugal? idiots abound on here

[Stevenoodlesgrunow]

My comic is a comic about the true wild west, not that white american propaganda bullshit. Google Samuel Bastard!

[tvphotog61]

who said they could do anything??

[seldomseennow]

typhotog61-ranger jock sniffers, and browneye ass-kissers like you claim the rangers are superhuman and perform miracles take on 100 guys at a time etc. I say RUBBISH.

[seldomseennow]

yea yea the Rangers are supermen that can do anything - so much bullshit. they're no different than anyone else. they don't have superpowers. I'm tired of this bullshit about how they can do anything.

[jbird0323]

They may not be able to do anything, but I bet they can kick your ass!

[seldomseennow]

jbird0323-doubtful I'm 6feet 4 inches weigh 250 lbs benchpress 375, work out every day, kickbox/wrestle so I think I would stomp them. Texas rangers are just people. Wht do you think they have some amazon type species somewhere from which they make rangers? Rubbish. Look at the guys in the video. Now they're not puny but they sure aren't any superman either. Just normal peeps. You actually believe all that bs? Man you are naive. Rangers had 6 shooters when Indians only had bows so that helped

[jbird0323]

I bet most of your research on the Texas Rangers is from the TV show. You will find that what makes a Texas Ranger tough is the willingness to do whatever is necessary to accomplish an objective, and shear determination. Plus, a good old model 1911a .45 helps!Your vanity about your size and physical capability clouds your understanding what a normal person can accomplish. You can wrestle and kick and karate chop all you want, but you will drop like everyone else when the "bullet hits the bone"

[seldomseennow]

Jbird-never watched tv show I've read What makeS YOU think you know so much more? Why do you have such a "hard-on" for Rangers? I guess your like sports "jock-sniffers" except with Rangers? I own firearms & have used them since I was 10 years old so I'm a pretty good shot-probably as good or better than most rangers. What is it about Rangers that make them SOOOOO much different than regular humans? So they have like supernatural abilities other normal humans don't have?BULLSHIT. You are naive.

[tvphotog61]

and you what are you???? a bad ass?? bullshit.... hey loser its youtube dumb ass..

[seldomseennow]

typhotog61-so you are a ranger "jock-sniffer", brown-noser, and ass kisser huh? I am just as bad as any ranger I will tell you that much. These rangers here don't look like any superman douche. My complaint is that the bs hype portrays rangers as like superman capable of extraordinariy human feats not normaly humanly possible and i say BULLSHIT. They are just men like any other men. There's not some special place where superhuman rangers are grown asshole.

[tvphotog61]

I hear ya....you still havent told me what makes you such a great person and i would guess a wanna be badass????come on dude tell me with out slamming other humans...come on tell me??? i bet your one tough dude...i pitty you and people like you.....god bless...

[seldomseennow]

typhotog61-f off too bad if you don't like my point that rangers are just human like every other human. It's not like the rangers go through SPECIAL FORCES training and are seals, or green berets etc. Now if you wanted to say seals, green berets are a cut above the rest I would agree cause they have gone through TOUGH physical tests of which only 10% or so make it but rangers don't do anything like that. Are rangers more superhuman than cia or fbi? I doubt it. Take a hike if you don't like that

[tvphotog61]

still cant tell me can you? f off loser...get a life...your mother is superhuman ass wipe...

[seldomseennow]

typhotog61-you silly ass - how tough I am has nothing to do with it bozo. My whole friggin point is that rangers are just humans like any other human. there isn't one set of peeps that have superhuman powers above others. - well except you can say ARMY rangers, seals and Green Beret DO have to go thru physical tests where only the toughest 10% or so survive so i guess you could say THOSE peeps are a cut above the rest but still even they can't perform miracles.

[travlnhank]

@seldomseennow You my friend are a true clown, you make no point, know no history, have no class and scare yourself, just like a true clown, you should be the one getting a life. You are not from Texas, you are probably Black or Mexican, definitely a liberal loser, and have no respect for lawenforcement, unless your little pussy is in a bind, hope you some day need a real ranger to help you out, it would be fun to watch you eat your weird words.