What about Dimentio from SPM? He alredy has a cool set of attacks, awesome music, and his finnal smash could be turning into super-dimentio and all the plataforms would go black with white edges and with smiley faces on them...
Never heard of him, haha...I just looked him up right now...so....I don't know...he seems...awfully large, and unknown, but not even in a cool way... :p
I don't really want Paper Mario to be a big force in my game...
@Cimmantti You can watch the boss battle here in YouTube....maybe it WOULD be kinda weird to have it in there, but in his final smash he shouldn´t be much bigger that Giga Bowser. I was just thinking it might be kind of exotic to have him there, and 2D characters don´t seem to be much trouble for the developers since Mr Game&Watch..
Just because I did not add in Dragonball Z characters does not mean you have the right dislike this! >:L
Be creative people, y'all always throwing out the same old crap, and wanting to add in the same 5 characters. Trust me. I'll get around to making their movesets. EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER OF MINE IS ORIGINAL AND HAS THEIR OWN MOVESET.
Fox and Falco and Wolf are now all different. Trust me, it wasn't even that hard.
@altermann1991 I'm gettin' fancy. Simply adding 5 charcters and 2 stages wouldn't really make it that big of a game. Samurai Mario is like an easter egg sort of. Would the VERY last character you unlock. Boshi simply takes the costume slot of dark blue yoshi, but adds cool sunglasses, everybody is using SkywardSword plus, Lucas and Ness are one time characters too, my Toad doesn't use the same set as Peach, and costumes are unique in my game, Pichu can be smaller, and my TN fights
@Cimmantti melee and brawl added 10-13 charas respectivley,but you want to add ~20,a total of 45 charas is more realistic.S-Mario would be an easteregg no one understands/cares for,he would simply take a slot away.The blue yoshi appears more often than boshi,ghirahim is still a one-stand-chara like zant,until the next game he isn't that popular anymore,the motherseries has no recurring playable main charas,so they have to use one-times,TN doesn't fight in AC so he won't fight in ssb
@altermann1991 Well...in my game he does...and by realistic (also tackling your other comment), this is still FAR more realistic than adding in Goku from Dragon Ball Z. -_-
I'm going all out here. And I can make TN fight...not that hard. Peach and Zelda don't fight either.... Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong don't really...and Skyward Sword, being a game of the year and all this jazz...it works, and adding sunglasses on Yoshi makes him cooler, haha.
And Wario never had a motorcyle (replying to last comment), but Brawl added in something to make him more "unique."
There won't have been a console Zelda by the time it comes out...and I GUESS...if we used our imagination...to say...let's have the game come out next week...THEN...and only then, would this be a terrible roster?
if it came out right now...what would you people think. I mean OBVIOUSLY I'm not pitching this idea to Nintendo
@Cimmantti Warios Bike is from the wario ware-series,not invented by brawl.
The problem with Ghirahim is,that he will most likely not be a recurring chara and he is also quite new(so he would steal older charas the place),so why should they include him and make up a moveset for him,if they would have to throw him out in the next game already?
Pichu is still too small as a pika-costume.I mean there was a reason for Pichu having the shorter attack range of the two.
Nobody understands/cares for S-Mario? Maybe because he doesn't exist yet?!? o_0
I assure you, he's all that. He's a bonus slot...taking him out of the game would not add in another character? People and fighting games man! Always accusing characters of taking people's slots. Since I'm adding in SOOOO many characters....1 more doesn't hurt anybody -_-
And seriously, look up Budokai 3, and then Budokai Tenkaichi 1...
@Cimmantti The Problem here is,that if the developers include S.Mario,they could have used the time to include another chara instead of S.Mario.
And the reason as for why Budokai tenkaichi has so many fighters is because there is barely any difference between their fighting styles and some charas are overpowered on purpose(sure there are also overpowered charas in brawl,but at least they try to balance it).
A new approach in the direction of BT would mean more clones and semi clones.
@altermann1991 And no...they really couldn't have...considering it's MY game, LOL...
Plus...S.Mario...IS NOT a Mario clone, are we aware of that?
And if you trust Nintendo...then they can pull it off...correct?
I'm obviously not even PITCHING this idea so that in 4 years, Nintendo can release this game EXACTLY...c'mon now people...REALISTIC is only there people most people are stupid and put in Final Fantasy characters... -_-
@altermann1991 P.S...obviously Nintendo throws out characters ideas during development too... -_-
2 years along the line...this roster might just change...just like Nintendo's will...they don't just write a list...and stay true to it for 4 years...
@altermann1991 Roy is unimportant, but was in Melee, and has really cool fire sword critical hit attacks like in FE 6. They look nearly identical but there's enough of a difference. Aaand...it doesn't matter if Boshi and Birdo were never in a yoshi game, haha. Bowser Jr. REALLY it not as revolutionary I don't think. Everybody always just gives him a Shadow Mario transformation...it's weak. I'm being creative. That's why there are so many characters. Budokai to Budokai Tenkaichi.
@Cimmantti Roy was a cheap clone who was only in as an advertisement for his game,Birdo wouldn't even function as a yoshi costume,or how should birdo swallow the enemies with its tounge?,B.Jr. isn't revolutionary(and he doesn't have to transform),but toad would be revolutionary or what?He would be just a new chara,who uses his paint brush(which could be used for some interesting moves).And being creative has nothing to do with being realistic -.-
@altermann1991 Roy isn't a cheap clone in my game and my costume system isn't just reskins, or weird colors. The whole character model changes...it's not even that hard to do...Birdo just sucks them in with her mouth, which sounds really nasty and innapropiate, but blame Nintendo! :p
And if Roy is only in to advertise...so is...every other...character? o_0
And my Toad, for the sake of the story, has a sword and shield (I'm thinking) he's sort of a knight for Peach.Still brainstorm
@Cimmantti Roy was in only to advertise,the other charas are mostly in,in order to represent their series,like marth or the ice climbers,who didn't appear in any game during the GC/GBA era,so you can't say they were only in to advertise.
The problem with birdo is,that the range of birdos attack would be invisible then,giving him/her a small advantage over yoshi
Toad never had weapons,so why giving him a sword and a shield?It would make as much sense as giving Pikachu a gun.
Hey, if they could have Pichu and Pikachu has two different characters...just add in Pichu under the Pikachu costume selection...that's what I'm going for with this costume system...same with Daisy and Peach...Daisy'll have flowers instead of hearts...and Birdo's eggs would be purple instead of green...it'd function the same...
And Yoshi's tongue is so fast...doesn't matter if you see it or not, right?
@Cimmantti Birod would still look weird and it would still give a small advantage.
And S.Mario takes away a spot,even in "your" game,since you could have included a different chara in your list instead of him,especially since its the mario series,which should have at least as much charas as Pokemon and Zelda.
And again,being creative doesn't mean being realistic,a realistic roster is a roster with only charas,that have a chance to be in the next game,not ones that do not have a chance
@altermann1991 S. Mario, Mewtwo, and Skull Kid are like "cameo" characters...the VERY last 3 you get...without them, their series all have 5 characters...still the max, and these 3 are like "easter eggs."
Mewtwo, Zoroark, and Lucario, I have those 3, because everybody loves the pyshic, dark, fighting trio that was rumored to replace, Grass Fire and Water...
and so Pichu will have a shorter fighting range...costumes can have slightly different attacks...think of them as clones.
@Cimmantti The big difference between these cameos is,that Mewtwo and Skull kid are actual characters,the players wouldn't see them as cameos(especially Mewtwo who is still one of the most popular and iconic pokemon).
And if special costumes are more like clones,they simply would be clones.
You said,those costumes would be included in order to prevent clones,but in fact,they are just a bunch of clones thrown into the roster.
@altermann1991 ...Is Green mario a clone of red mario...probably... -_-
Not really seeing the dilemma here, lol.
...And, yes...I suppose it would be better to have clones as selectables UNDER the actual character selection instead of having them all take up a space...
I never said,simply colour changes would be clones,but "costumes" like Pichu would be,because of the shorter reach,etc.
The problem is,that even if the clones are not listed as seperate characters under the character select screen,they are still there and they would still take away space,it wouldn't be any different from clones as seperate characters.
It would be simply a difference how you select the clones,but in the end they are still clones
the newcomes is oogtar (mario/donkey kong series or super mario world cartoon series),riachu (poke'mon series) [replace by lucario],tingle (zelda series) [replace by toon link],myself [replace by rob,mr.game & wacht, or sonic],bunnnie rabbot (sonic series or bunnie rabbot series),clound (final fantasney series),ryu(nija gariden series), other ryu (street fighters series),sora (kingdom hearts series) & rayman (rayman series)
I LIKE IT I APROVE IT, LIKE THE PREVIOUS VERSION...
but people can say... well, no ofense people fight for erase one when only must be worry that his character appears
ah sorry for previous comment, i know what you say now, Samurai Mario is like a origin... i need investigate, for incluye it in the wikipedia database, i work on it for a long time... im a little bussy and i need more rest.. but is a great idea... sure Ryu, the problem was select Ryu or Megaman... try it... is not problem...
samurai mario than better put in Bowser Jr. Mewtwo, Lucario and Zoroark 0.o you know those 3 are kind of the same characters right just keep it with Zoroark and add Meowth. and why no Krystal? Don't add Lyn you already have Marth, Roy and Ike then add Liz from the newest FE. If you add another KI character choose Magnus. They said AC will not have characters. Megaman is already conformed.
@TheKeybladeBrawler Lemme explain. Samurai Mario, Mewtwo, and Skull Kid are more like "bonus" characters. They will be the VERY last characters you have to unlock. More like highly requested easter eggs if you will. My premise behind this list was to go all out. Fire Emblem has FAR more games than Star Fox...they don't have as much international recognition, but in Japan they do. That's why there's no Krystal...Japan pretty much hates her...and this isn't an official list, XD
@TheKeybladeBrawler Also...when I made this..."Liz" whoever that is...probably didn't exist. :p Or his/her name was not known....and I chose Palutena over Magnus...whoever that is, because it added another female charcter with that Zelda factor. Zelda never fought, but is awesome and original for the game...same with Palutena.
Meowth...has no relevance to the games...only the anime...he really wouldn't add anything unique...And if no Lyn then no Roy..Lyn would be more frequent and less of a clone than Marth....(even though in my roster, there are NO clones, everybody has original movesets.)
What about Dimentio from SPM? He alredy has a cool set of attacks, awesome music, and his finnal smash could be turning into super-dimentio and all the plataforms would go black with white edges and with smiley faces on them...
Salocinist 2 weeks ago
@Salocinist The paper Mario guy?!?
Never heard of him, haha...I just looked him up right now...so....I don't know...he seems...awfully large, and unknown, but not even in a cool way... :p
I don't really want Paper Mario to be a big force in my game...
Cimmantti 2 weeks ago
@Cimmantti You can watch the boss battle here in YouTube....maybe it WOULD be kinda weird to have it in there, but in his final smash he shouldn´t be much bigger that Giga Bowser. I was just thinking it might be kind of exotic to have him there, and 2D characters don´t seem to be much trouble for the developers since Mr Game&Watch..
Salocinist 2 weeks ago
Just because I did not add in Dragonball Z characters does not mean you have the right dislike this! >:L
Be creative people, y'all always throwing out the same old crap, and wanting to add in the same 5 characters. Trust me. I'll get around to making their movesets. EVERY SINGLE CHARACTER OF MINE IS ORIGINAL AND HAS THEIR OWN MOVESET.
Fox and Falco and Wolf are now all different. Trust me, it wasn't even that hard.
Toad does not equal Peach.
Also Question: Should I add in Ninten?
Cimmantti 1 month ago 2
Why so many dislikes people? Pardon me for being REALISTIC.
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@Cimmantti Some things are simply not realistic,even though I think you have many good ideas:
Why invent samuraimario?
Why Toad,who's a move of peach?Why not Bowser jr.?
Boshi&Birdo never appeared in a yoshigame
Ghirahim is a one-stand-chara
Pichu is too small as costume for pikachu
roy&eliwood look nearly identical&roy is rather unimportant
Sakurai said there won't be AC-charas,since they can't fight
too many characters,that would be ~20 more characters than in brawl O_o
altermann1991 1 month ago
@altermann1991 I'm gettin' fancy. Simply adding 5 charcters and 2 stages wouldn't really make it that big of a game. Samurai Mario is like an easter egg sort of. Would the VERY last character you unlock. Boshi simply takes the costume slot of dark blue yoshi, but adds cool sunglasses, everybody is using SkywardSword plus, Lucas and Ness are one time characters too, my Toad doesn't use the same set as Peach, and costumes are unique in my game, Pichu can be smaller, and my TN fights
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@Cimmantti melee and brawl added 10-13 charas respectivley,but you want to add ~20,a total of 45 charas is more realistic.S-Mario would be an easteregg no one understands/cares for,he would simply take a slot away.The blue yoshi appears more often than boshi,ghirahim is still a one-stand-chara like zant,until the next game he isn't that popular anymore,the motherseries has no recurring playable main charas,so they have to use one-times,TN doesn't fight in AC so he won't fight in ssb
altermann1991 1 month ago
@altermann1991 Well...in my game he does...and by realistic (also tackling your other comment), this is still FAR more realistic than adding in Goku from Dragon Ball Z. -_-
I'm going all out here. And I can make TN fight...not that hard. Peach and Zelda don't fight either.... Donkey Kong and Diddy Kong don't really...and Skyward Sword, being a game of the year and all this jazz...it works, and adding sunglasses on Yoshi makes him cooler, haha.
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@Cimmantti well you roster is more realistic than those that include anime charas,but that doesn't make it really realistic.
Peach fights in S.MarioRPG,S.Mariobros.2 and S.Princess Peach.
Zelda displays magic power in various games,often sealing the enemy away and in newer games she uses a bow.
DK and diddy fight through hordes of crocodiles and tikis
Skyward sword will be outdated already when ssb4 will be released(keep in mind,they havn't even started with the development of ssb4)
altermann1991 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 Are these games not timeless?
And Wario never had a motorcyle (replying to last comment), but Brawl added in something to make him more "unique."
There won't have been a console Zelda by the time it comes out...and I GUESS...if we used our imagination...to say...let's have the game come out next week...THEN...and only then, would this be a terrible roster?
if it came out right now...what would you people think. I mean OBVIOUSLY I'm not pitching this idea to Nintendo
Cimmantti 3 weeks ago
@Cimmantti Warios Bike is from the wario ware-series,not invented by brawl.
The problem with Ghirahim is,that he will most likely not be a recurring chara and he is also quite new(so he would steal older charas the place),so why should they include him and make up a moveset for him,if they would have to throw him out in the next game already?
Pichu is still too small as a pika-costume.I mean there was a reason for Pichu having the shorter attack range of the two.
altermann1991 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 I needed more room..so..
Nobody understands/cares for S-Mario? Maybe because he doesn't exist yet?!? o_0
I assure you, he's all that. He's a bonus slot...taking him out of the game would not add in another character? People and fighting games man! Always accusing characters of taking people's slots. Since I'm adding in SOOOO many characters....1 more doesn't hurt anybody -_-
And seriously, look up Budokai 3, and then Budokai Tenkaichi 1...
I'm takin' a new approach.
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@Cimmantti The Problem here is,that if the developers include S.Mario,they could have used the time to include another chara instead of S.Mario.
And the reason as for why Budokai tenkaichi has so many fighters is because there is barely any difference between their fighting styles and some charas are overpowered on purpose(sure there are also overpowered charas in brawl,but at least they try to balance it).
A new approach in the direction of BT would mean more clones and semi clones.
altermann1991 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 And no...they really couldn't have...considering it's MY game, LOL...
Plus...S.Mario...IS NOT a Mario clone, are we aware of that?
And if you trust Nintendo...then they can pull it off...correct?
I'm obviously not even PITCHING this idea so that in 4 years, Nintendo can release this game EXACTLY...c'mon now people...REALISTIC is only there people most people are stupid and put in Final Fantasy characters... -_-
I've got beautiful ideas here FOR RIGHT NOW...
Cimmantti 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 P.S...obviously Nintendo throws out characters ideas during development too... -_-
2 years along the line...this roster might just change...just like Nintendo's will...they don't just write a list...and stay true to it for 4 years...
Cimmantti 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 Roy is unimportant, but was in Melee, and has really cool fire sword critical hit attacks like in FE 6. They look nearly identical but there's enough of a difference. Aaand...it doesn't matter if Boshi and Birdo were never in a yoshi game, haha. Bowser Jr. REALLY it not as revolutionary I don't think. Everybody always just gives him a Shadow Mario transformation...it's weak. I'm being creative. That's why there are so many characters. Budokai to Budokai Tenkaichi.
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@Cimmantti Roy was a cheap clone who was only in as an advertisement for his game,Birdo wouldn't even function as a yoshi costume,or how should birdo swallow the enemies with its tounge?,B.Jr. isn't revolutionary(and he doesn't have to transform),but toad would be revolutionary or what?He would be just a new chara,who uses his paint brush(which could be used for some interesting moves).And being creative has nothing to do with being realistic -.-
altermann1991 1 month ago
@altermann1991 Roy isn't a cheap clone in my game and my costume system isn't just reskins, or weird colors. The whole character model changes...it's not even that hard to do...Birdo just sucks them in with her mouth, which sounds really nasty and innapropiate, but blame Nintendo! :p
And if Roy is only in to advertise...so is...every other...character? o_0
And my Toad, for the sake of the story, has a sword and shield (I'm thinking) he's sort of a knight for Peach.Still brainstorm
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@Cimmantti Roy was in only to advertise,the other charas are mostly in,in order to represent their series,like marth or the ice climbers,who didn't appear in any game during the GC/GBA era,so you can't say they were only in to advertise.
The problem with birdo is,that the range of birdos attack would be invisible then,giving him/her a small advantage over yoshi
Toad never had weapons,so why giving him a sword and a shield?It would make as much sense as giving Pikachu a gun.
altermann1991 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 (Birdo problem...)
Hey, if they could have Pichu and Pikachu has two different characters...just add in Pichu under the Pikachu costume selection...that's what I'm going for with this costume system...same with Daisy and Peach...Daisy'll have flowers instead of hearts...and Birdo's eggs would be purple instead of green...it'd function the same...
And Yoshi's tongue is so fast...doesn't matter if you see it or not, right?
Movesets make minor adjustments for costumes
Cimmantti 3 weeks ago
@Cimmantti Birod would still look weird and it would still give a small advantage.
And S.Mario takes away a spot,even in "your" game,since you could have included a different chara in your list instead of him,especially since its the mario series,which should have at least as much charas as Pokemon and Zelda.
And again,being creative doesn't mean being realistic,a realistic roster is a roster with only charas,that have a chance to be in the next game,not ones that do not have a chance
altermann1991 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 S. Mario, Mewtwo, and Skull Kid are like "cameo" characters...the VERY last 3 you get...without them, their series all have 5 characters...still the max, and these 3 are like "easter eggs."
Mewtwo, Zoroark, and Lucario, I have those 3, because everybody loves the pyshic, dark, fighting trio that was rumored to replace, Grass Fire and Water...
and so Pichu will have a shorter fighting range...costumes can have slightly different attacks...think of them as clones.
Cimmantti 3 weeks ago
@Cimmantti The big difference between these cameos is,that Mewtwo and Skull kid are actual characters,the players wouldn't see them as cameos(especially Mewtwo who is still one of the most popular and iconic pokemon).
And if special costumes are more like clones,they simply would be clones.
You said,those costumes would be included in order to prevent clones,but in fact,they are just a bunch of clones thrown into the roster.
altermann1991 3 weeks ago
@altermann1991 ...Is Green mario a clone of red mario...probably... -_-
Not really seeing the dilemma here, lol.
...And, yes...I suppose it would be better to have clones as selectables UNDER the actual character selection instead of having them all take up a space...
Cimmantti 3 weeks ago
@Cimmantti
I never said,simply colour changes would be clones,but "costumes" like Pichu would be,because of the shorter reach,etc.
The problem is,that even if the clones are not listed as seperate characters under the character select screen,they are still there and they would still take away space,it wouldn't be any different from clones as seperate characters.
It would be simply a difference how you select the clones,but in the end they are still clones
altermann1991 2 weeks ago
the newcomes is oogtar (mario/donkey kong series or super mario world cartoon series),riachu (poke'mon series) [replace by lucario],tingle (zelda series) [replace by toon link],myself [replace by rob,mr.game & wacht, or sonic],bunnnie rabbot (sonic series or bunnie rabbot series),clound (final fantasney series),ryu(nija gariden series), other ryu (street fighters series),sora (kingdom hearts series) & rayman (rayman series)
mcleanc2753366336363 1 month ago
@mcleanc2753366336363 Sooo...a bunch of NON-Nintendo characters?
Oh, okay, I see how it is, LOLOLOL...
Cimmantti 1 month ago
APROVE IT: wonderfull ideas...
Rareamos 1 month ago
I LIKE IT I APROVE IT, LIKE THE PREVIOUS VERSION...
but people can say... well, no ofense people fight for erase one when only must be worry that his character appears
ah sorry for previous comment, i know what you say now, Samurai Mario is like a origin... i need investigate, for incluye it in the wikipedia database, i work on it for a long time... im a little bussy and i need more rest.. but is a great idea... sure Ryu, the problem was select Ryu or Megaman... try it... is not problem...
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Rareamos 1 month ago
samurai mario than better put in Bowser Jr. Mewtwo, Lucario and Zoroark 0.o you know those 3 are kind of the same characters right just keep it with Zoroark and add Meowth. and why no Krystal? Don't add Lyn you already have Marth, Roy and Ike then add Liz from the newest FE. If you add another KI character choose Magnus. They said AC will not have characters. Megaman is already conformed.
TheKeybladeBrawler 1 month ago
@TheKeybladeBrawler Lemme explain. Samurai Mario, Mewtwo, and Skull Kid are more like "bonus" characters. They will be the VERY last characters you have to unlock. More like highly requested easter eggs if you will. My premise behind this list was to go all out. Fire Emblem has FAR more games than Star Fox...they don't have as much international recognition, but in Japan they do. That's why there's no Krystal...Japan pretty much hates her...and this isn't an official list, XD
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@TheKeybladeBrawler Also...when I made this..."Liz" whoever that is...probably didn't exist. :p Or his/her name was not known....and I chose Palutena over Magnus...whoever that is, because it added another female charcter with that Zelda factor. Zelda never fought, but is awesome and original for the game...same with Palutena.
Cimmantti 1 month ago
@TheKeybladeBrawler ...Also...why would I add Meowth, lol? o_0
Meowth...has no relevance to the games...only the anime...he really wouldn't add anything unique...And if no Lyn then no Roy..Lyn would be more frequent and less of a clone than Marth....(even though in my roster, there are NO clones, everybody has original movesets.)
Cimmantti 1 month ago
Okay...who gave me a dislike?!?
Cimmantti 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos 2
WHERE'S LUCAS AND NESS FROM EARTHBOUND!!!!!?!?!L
TheSupermario11 2 months ago
@TheSupermario11 WOW...oops...
They were on my list after the FE Series...
Lo siento...
Cimmantti 2 months ago
@TheSupermario11 I added a note explaining that little mistake of mine.
Forgive me? :p
Cimmantti 2 months ago
@Cimmantti ok :)
TheSupermario11 2 months ago
@TheSupermario11 Any other...complaints? comments? complaints? suggestions? maybe some comments? :)
Cimmantti 2 months ago
EDIT: I am not sure what my stance on Bowser Jr. is...Playable Character? Asist Trophy more likely, but I am open to ideas!
Cimmantti 2 months ago 2
I'll feel like a whore asking this, buuut...if ya want, subscribe?!? o_0
Then, maybe, just maybe, I'll make more videos about this stuff!
Anyways, enjoy!
P.S. (Sorry for mistakes in the video)
Cimmantti 2 months ago 2