I admired St. Michael Archangel, our family experienced His presence and protection, that time when my brother Michael Angelo was attacked by the evil spirit, Michael the archangel showed up to him and saved him. 어 and they also have the same name...and I think Jesus is not Michael, Jesus is the King...:P
Jesus asked God to forgive his enemies for they knew not what they were doing
Michael does not forgive his enemies because he knows that they know exactly what they are doing
we are all sons and daughters of God but some will not accept that and have chosen the way of the dragon (and im not talking about Bruce Lee) and therefore they must be destroyed
@TheGeorgeWHayduke i agree with you, none of the angels forgive, even samael played a role of a demon and betrayed adremalech and a bunch of other demon generals
well think of it this way u guys kno the multiverse theory right maybe micheal nd jesus are the same person but at the same time, they arnt. maybe jesus is somewhat of the earthly version of micheal ya know jesus kill the antichrist micheal is supposed to kill lucifer in end times. just like think about it its just a theory
"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him." - Ecc.3:14. This means that only God can create or destroy and whatever He creates, nobody else can add to or subtract from it - not even an archangel. So, Jesus need to be God in order to keep both Ecc.3:14 and Col.1:16 valid simultaneously. CASE CLOSED! ! !
I see something else...Michael was the replacement of the Fallen Angel Satan...he took over the position or Seat of Satan which actually means not "Enemy--Adversary" but "Lord of the Tones" (music of God). Satan is confused with Lucifer also--he was a Lucifer once--that is to say he was a "bearer of the Light of God" but he fell from this position because self-importance rather than Love was chosen by him and he adhered to this course until he lost his First Love losing also his First Estate.
Heresy blasphemy fools No no no I can't believe there's churchs who teach this I knew right away these claims are out of context Please my brothers and sisters religion is not the way it's man made Trust and seek Kingdom of God first Meaning to me always seek pray and do what scripture says Dont listen to people like this guy
Jesus, who was made lower than the angels (Heb 2:9) ...emptied Himself, became a servant (Phil 2:7-8) while He walked on earth had more power than Michael. In Mat 4:10-11 & Luke 4:8 Jesus commanded satan to leave Him & satan obeyed... In Jude 1:9 Michael did not dare command satan to do anything but sought the Lords help to overcome satan.
If having the voice of the archangel makes Jesus Michael, then having the trump of God makes Him God...This you will not agree to. Your logic is flawed.
But we have to understand who is Michael. He is the only one named archangel, It means highest messenger who is like God.
John 3:16 says God loved the world that He gave His only begotten son. The word begotten means only one like Himself. Jesus is the mediator. No one comes to the Father except through Him
Archangel may mean highest messenger, but only in the ranks of the class of angels.
Jesus is mentioned 983 times in just the New Testament alone...Michael is only mentioned 5 times in both the Old & New Testament & is referred to as, "just one of the chief princes."
Only begotten means: "THE ONLY ONE OF IT'S KIND."
Michael is not Jesus.
Jesus is not Michael.
Jesus is God.
Michael is a created archangel created by Jesus who created all things. (Col 1:16)
Arch angel is also a title? and not an "angel"? Help me out here. I don't think any Christian would believe that Yeshua is a created being or an angel. Now using archangel or Michael as a positional title, that makes sense.
i got curious to this because that Michael guy is always showin up in the Bible doin stuf that only seems appropriate of someone as powerful as that guy Jesus. i'm thinking the guy we know as Jesus is the guy Gabriel knows as Michael. Jesus was in fact kickin around in heaven for ever. nobody but us would call Him Jesus. Gabriel wouldnt. why would he? why dont we just ask Gabriel what he calls Jesus? 'Like God' would probably be his response--or Michael.
The Aryan heresy has been condemned very long. Centuries before the Jehovah Witnesses even thought of creating their own version of the Bible. This is not new, and it will not stick.
In the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the word was God. The word was made flesh and dwelt among us. To which of the angels did Yahweh say "Sit at my right hand?" Yahweh made his only begotten son better than the angels, including Michael. JWs say if you cover the name of Michael with your finger you would think it was Jesus. I could say the same for Abraham and Isaac. A shadow and a type of Jesus, no doubt. But not Jesus. Jesus is the right arm of Yahweh and the word of God
All this is to show all of you that only by faith will man know and understand God. Jesus said what he said for us to return to God. Much information is fragmented, layered, and obscured about Jesus, and Michael, and all things in heaven and earth. All this will come together by faith and faith alone. Without faith we will be decieved, and divided by the enemy. The enemy is defeated but we do not have the faith to know it. How can we know of heavenly things if we don't understand earthly things.
Angels come in the NAME of the Lord, that means, that they bear the Name of God. They are Titles given to those Angels that carry out the Lords work, The Angel of His Presence, The Angel of the Lord on Mt Sinai, No man has seen and heard God, so, the Angels and His Son, come in His Holy Name. to do His work because this is Gods plan.......Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!
the literal translation says 'And the head of the kingdom of Persia is standing over-against me twenty and one days, and lo, Michael, first of the chief heads, hath come in to help me, and I have remained there near the kings of Persia. how is Michael an angel? if Joshua worships and calls him lord? how can an angel stand up for a nation? only God does that. Jesus said the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God. paul says THE Archangel voice. Michael means WHO IS LIKE GOD.
@TheRenegadeGiratina An angel is a term used to describe a being who is a messenger. Michael is an archangel. In the bible it has been stated that God speaks in the voice of archangel, which would mean that He is able to send out His words through the archangel Michael. An angel can only carry what he has heard from God, where as an archangel can allow a conversation between God and a being whom God wishes to speak with through himself.
@TheRenegadeGiratina In other words, an angel is like the e-mail transporter of God, where as an archangel would be a phone or a webcam of God. Michael, therefore, allowed Joshua to send his worship over to God through him, not that he received Joshua's worship for himself.
@TheRenegadeGiratina Satan did look beautiful on the outside, but his fall must have changed his outer appearance. He is now being referred to as seven-headed serpent of the olden days. If Michael, like dragon, happened to be a symbol, then why doesn't the Bible reveal his identity as it did for Satan?
The bible was changed by Constantine to serve satan and the cabal people who hang on these words are the ones being led into perdition that means lost in french! Word PERDU=lost.. for one God is not wrathfull Satan is! God loves us all even Ted Bundy n Dahmer bunch of fools! Wake the fuck up...I am sick of U bible thumpers we are ALIENS N SO IS GOD! ARCTURIS = arcturian = God period!
@Quay1962 getting into specifics of aliens and angels is just a great deception and completely unecessary. something we as humans will never understand until we pass the test of faith. a gift given from god the father which we will never obtain until we follow the steps of creation. jumping ahead and saying that you already know whats what, is like saying as a child, "i already know that when i grow up i will be a fireman" without continuing school or learning from ur mistakes over time to grow.
Sorry where can I find in the Bible that says Michael the Archangel is God himself and can a Jehovah witness please tell me why did they listen to the New World translation when they know they have translated it wrong on purpose
Yes the JW believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is not God but Michael the Archangel but if you read the Scriptures Jesus Christ is God in other words God was manifested into man or you like he came down to visit his people and extrude the Scripture says the Jews did not recognize them
Fyi Ishtar is not who I said anyways! Look up nibiruan council since frackin U tube is blocking me from tellin ya the truth lol is U who will have egg on their face and all misguided souls who think they know love n light yo cutie
>^..^<kitty ::*:: galaxy thats who our origins are from like Aslan lol reasearch it before u judge!
Well cutie I hate to be the messenger with bad news! U are worshiping the bible written for and by Satan n the cabal! Many souls are being led into perdition cuz of that! be the last one in line! I dont care love U despite Ur vile self!
I have to let U all in on what I know.. since the fall of Atlantis most of us lived durring that time we all chose to incarnate here if ya can believe that one! We have lived from both sides of the sword as rich as poor as slave as fool etc so we could get lifes angles from every view n circumtances.. how many people does that make Us n 17,500 years!!? at least 300 selves! U dont think the Arc,s could become something else for different rolls? Christ is the seed of God PERIOD
He is an Arc Angel he is OUR Galaxys deffender, other name is Ashtar Sheran he is the Comander of the Galactic Federation of lightships see ireneaura her vids will tell ALL OF U WHAT IS TRUTH! Arc Angel Gabriel is Metatron by the way also a comander along with Haton, Vrillon and did Ya'll know they All are just outside OUR REALM cuz the shit is about to hit! do the frackin research dude/dudette who put this lie up. the trumpet is gonna sound soon who will be blowing it!
@Quay1962 That is a big fat lie. Ishtar a is pagan idol and a demonic spirit. So is your ascended masters and your Haton, you New Ager. Don't you ever dare to compare Jesus-Michael, the one true God, with those devils. This is heresy and blasphemy. Gabriel has nothing to do with the demon Metratron. You are being deceived and brainwashed. But if your wish to be a brainwashed slave for the NWO satanists and their demonic entities, it's your problem...
I have yet to hear one SDA pray to Micheal. If they Believe Micheal is Jesus Pray to him and see how wrong it sounds. Or even call him God and see how it feels.
David worshipped alongside the father(1 Chronicles 29:20). 5. You still haven't addressed my questions which where how is it possible for 2 kings to rule at the same time when the bible says only one king will rule at the end times? And where in the bible is Jesus called God of Gods?
@teflonfanatic I give you scripture you minipulate it's text. Why waist my time with you playing musical chairs?
No where does it say Moses was God. Jesus told Moses that he will be 'LIKE' God to them. You see that word like? Just as the same we are all made in Gods image. Even more so since Christ died for our sins we are God like. No we are not divine but we are like God in nature. Haha david surely is No god. In psalms 110. He reffered to the Messiah(Jesus) as Lord.
the divine nature because the father is spirit(John 4:24), higher forms of life in the spirit realm doesn't change the fact that they're spirit just like the father. Also humans who get the heavenly reward can partake of the divine nature(2 Peter 1:4) You say you completely answered my question but your last 2 posts had nothing to do with more then one king ruling at the same time and yet not nullifying scripture...
not in even in that verse, as for Colossians I don't deny it I just don't believe he did it alone, even trinitarians are forced to admit this or believe in modalism since they believe they're 2 SEPARATE PERSONS!!!
Jesus is the creator of all things seen and unseen, all things were made by him and for him. Colossians 2:9-10 For in Christ all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is God of Gods!
@Endymion7Ra: Where in the bible is Jesus called the God of Gods? Last time I checked only the father was called God of Gods( Daniel 2:47). Daniel who was an israelite only knew Jehovah not Jesus. Even if that was Jesus in that verse(which it wasn't) how can the title God of Gods be applied to Jesus if he has a god above him(John 20:17, Revelation 3:12)
No one has ever seen God the father except the only begotton that sits at the Father's right hand John 1:17-18. That is Jesus Christ. Jesus and the Father are one John 10:29. If you have seen Jesus you have seen the face of the Father John14:7. God is the creator of all things Colossains 1. If you want more scripture pull up a pin and paper I'll have so much scripture from the old and new testament your pen will start smoking there will be so many scriptures for you to write
@Endymion7Ra: You don't address my question but rather assert I deny the deity of Christ like most people who believe Jesus is the archangel michael. I believe the divine nature is spirit so if your a spirit being then you have the divine nature since the father is a spirit being. Jesus and the father are one in purpose read John 17:20-25, You take John 14:7 to be seeing the face of the father when that's impossible according to Exodus 33:20 so that can't be literal especially when face is cont.
@teflonfanatic I completley answered your question. What else do I have to break down to you? what is your belief system? It sounds like your own religion, which extinguishes an aregument between you and I. How is the divine nature spirit when we established Colossians 2:9-10. What are you saying humans are gods? you got me lost break down your spiritual belief and your understanding of the trinity. If not I'm waisting my time
@Endymion7Ra: I'm Arian but I don't follow the belief system 100%, also you say how is the divine nature spirit and then give me colossians 2:9-10 which doesn't at all address your question... I will say this about Colossians 2:9-10 the fullness of the divine quality(theotetos can be rendered that way) is in him because it pleased the father(Colossians 1:19). I'm not saying humans are Gods although the father can appoint or allow anyone to be God but rather if your a spirit being you have cont..
@teflonfanatic Man then I can care less about your personnel views, in other words your claiming to be your own deity. Have a nice life dude. Your waisting our time unless you want understanding.
@Endymion7Ra: 1. I was not trying to claim to be my own deity in fact I don't even think I have the heavenly hope. 2. I would obey the watchtower command to stay away from here if I didn't want understanding. 3. You seem to have a problem with my questions and ignore the scriptures I post, I don't have a problem with the scriptures you post or questions. 4. Yes the father can appoint or allow anyone to be God, Moses God to his own prophet(Exodus 4:16) CONT...
@teflonfanatic *Sarcastic* Too bad Watchtowers are not allowed to think for themselves. One must be very blind not to see that the many proofs of Christ's Deity in the Bible. But of course, since the Watchtowers are not allowed to think for themselves and their Bible is a fraud (do research on the subject), they remain blind. "First born" is not "first created", that's first in rank and authority, preeminence, etc...
No....he is saying Jesus is an incarnation of Michael, therefore Michael was incarnated into the guy you know as jesus in order to teach us how to respect eachother. Makes sense if you think about it. When he talks about christ he means the christ conscious and the only way to gain the consciousness of christ is to think with your heart.
No Sir. Jesus, is God. Not been created but in Flesh. Michael or Gabriel only serve the Lord. they were created by the Lord's word, The name is Raphael, the Archangel is Jesus. the Angel of the Lord is Jesus. Jesus is Jehovah. Michael is only a created been celestial one of the most exel server of the Lord. But Michael is not Jesus.
@DallasTheGreat28 Do an in-depth, extensive Bible study on the subject with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, then you will not. Jesus is both God and the Archangel. Study the original Hebrew and do research on the Malak Yahweh...
@DallasTheGreat28 See what the Malak Yahweh says to Moses and Joshua and see how they react. Mere created angels (the good ones) do not accept worship and they rebuke those who try to worship them. See how the what the angel say to John when the apostle try to worship him in Revelation. The Malak Yahveh/the Captain of the Host/Jesus was the only Supernatural Being who accepted worship. Jesus is both God and the Archangel...
@Endymion7Ra You got it all wrong. The angel needed Michael's help to defeat the king of Persia, which obviously means that THAT angel was NOT Michael, since he need Michael's help. It was another that Michael helped. The angel who spoke to Daniel in that passage was probably Gabriel, since Gabriel was commanded to give Daniel the meaning of the dream. The prince of Persia withstood Gabriel for 22 days and then Michael came to his aid. With the help of the Deity, Gabriel won and reached Daniel.
@Jondadon2006 not only that. but the book of REVELATION. is a book of symbols. satan is shown as a dragon. does satan look like a dragon? no its a symbol its the same Michael is a symbol of Jesus. the Bible says Jesus and His angels coming Revelation. Michael and His angels. the Bible never says seven archangels. revelation says seven spirits seven ANGELS NOT ARCHANGELS.
@nyguy88L71: My question for those who don't believe Jesus is Michael, can 2 spirit beings reign as King at the same time? And if so wouldn't that contradict the bibles prophecy of having only one king wear the crown of David at the end times?
@nyguy88L71 Archangel is only found in the singular in the Bible, never in the plural. There is but one Archangel. You are being deceived by the Catholics and their false doctrine...
@nyguy88L71 JW have it wrong when they say that Jesus is created being, but if you do an in-depth, extensive bible study on the Archangel, you're gonna find out that Jesus is both God and the Archangel Michael. I suggest you study the original Hebrew and do research on the Malak Yahweh...
@nyguy88L71 the literal translation says. 'And the head of the kingdom of Persia is standing over-against me twenty and one days, and lo, Michael, first of the chief heads, hath come in to help me, and I have remained there near the kings of Persia;
what this idiot doesnt understand, the who? is that when yer born again christ lives thru you, so he lives thru those he, who? ... a false preacher this man is that has no clue to the truth. trust not in your own understanding, thats what God/jesus said. who?....is this false preacher mimicing an owl? or who? michael is a redeemed sinner that christ takes over and lives thru. you are a liar for hire, whoever spoke this false message.
@maxwellmaxter "michael is a redeemed sinner that christ takes over and lives through", where is your text in the bible to prove this? There are none!! Preacher makes sense...pray about it
@etueni1 you are wrong you are badly mistaken, this preacher is a false preacher, thus the repetitive who? that i mocked. here is the proof, "on that day you will realize that i am in my father, and you are in me, and i am in you!" there's yer proof. do you need me to tell you the chapter and verse? you pray about it!!!
ASSURANCE OF SALVATION: Not works to boast of. God will not tolerate sin in His presence. God sees your heart. Inside you must be filled with the Holy Spirit of grace and receive Christ, not receive and angel!! To receive Christ you must believe in Christ for who He is, God's Son and the Holy Spirit as a person. Three co-equal, co-eternal, Co-existing persons. Then inside you are cleaned, and warmed, and justified, made a child of God, all by grace. You have the ability to stay in Heaven, no sin
Michael isnt a Angel... Jesus isnt Michael.... God did say watch out for those who preaching false doctrine.... Now Michael is Jesus? and Jesus wasnt created?..God is going to spank you good for preaching all this falsehood...see Satan knows he will be defeated by Michael the Human and its so embarrasing 4 satan because God is going to allow Man to defeat him... If satan convince man that and angel name Michael is after him then no man would ever stand up to satan because of this lie.. amazing..
@meshakaa wow thanks, you really get it. and let me guess, english is your second language? i needed to hear what you said here. the man that defeats him will be inspired by god and filled with the holy spirit, the words he will speak will not be his own, but those given to him from the throne. that day is very close. praise god he is awesome!!!!
@maxwellmaxter.. perhaps you are a europeans and it would take more then simple common english make you understand what was said or meant.....wooooow! the white man is the last to make any sense out of religion..lool...too much blood on your fingers.. and you wont be able to hear what i said here because i was only typing. im on a level which you could never reach,,and thats why u must read it again. but a person with the spirit of God could comprehend it very well ,,unlike killers
@meshakaa where do you come off with this reply to what i said??? this is the funniest part, you typed,"im on a level you could never reach." he who exalts himself will be humbled. i want you to know that your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance. you definitely havent been born again.
@maxwellmaxter ..Surely its not myself whose has exalt me to this state and you know why.. because my Birth Name means 'the prince on the right side of God'... you know every Name has usually a definition..well! thats what my name means... and its justified to say God has given me wisdom and has placed me on a high level himself... Im not being Arrogant,, Test the spirit to see if its coming from God.. Im here to facilitate the truth concerning misconceptions of God and these Books. ! MTP
@meshakaa jesus said no good can come from you unless you are grafted into the vine, so tell me how you were grafted. this is the test. i expect an essay answer.
@meshakaa well i tested it and its not the spirit of god. . otherwise you would have told me the truth, but you dont know it or him, the one who spoke and is and was the truth. you havent been born again. therefore you cant enter the kingdom of heaven.
@maxwellmaxter you havnt test the spirit sir, and futhermore, jesus did say.. a nation thats is divided cant stand..jesus was actually saying, good and bad cant exsist together or nor can the darkness dwell together with the light,,it must be seperated...If u have test the spirit and things i have said wasnt from God then im assuming i would had been speaking of witchcraft, soccery, voodoo or any evilness, If what u say is true Sir,,, then i have cursed and would be a great sinner..Right?
@meshakaa i know the spirit of truth, very well. some truth embellished with lies, is not the truth. i asked you to tell me how you recieved the holy spirit and you dodged, because you have no clue. unless yer born again, there is no hope for you. you can do no good unless you have been grafted into the vine, and you obviously have not.
Pastor Myers broke it down precisely in this presentation for all you superstitious, non-conceptual people that think God doesn't exist in EVERY dimension: Yehoshua(Jesus) is God Almighty in the 3rd dimensional realm, do you understand?? That is the realm in which we exist!! Just like Brother Myers said here, MICHAEL IS THE PRE-INCARNATE JESUS, MEANING JESUS BEFORE BEING MANIFESTED INTO THE 3RD DIMENSIONAL HUMAN FORM. TRUE SCIENTIFIC EXPLANIATION AND BIBLICAL REVELATION ARE ONE AND THE SAME
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
Personally, I believe that if you refuse to understand Scriptures you risk sending yourself to hell. Jesus being Mykael means that He is the PRINCE of the hosts in Dan 8:11 whose Sanctuary the little horn is defiling.
So if you fail to understand this truth & start saying that the Sanctuary being defiled in Dan 8:11 is BEFORE Jesus appears on earth as some CLAIM, you run the risk of being part of the little horn defiling Mykael, Jesus' (God's) Sanctuary!
Personally, I believe that if you refuse to understand Scriptures you risk sending yourself to hell. Jesus being Mykael means that He is the PRINCE of the hosts in Dan 8:11 whose Sanctuary the little horn is defiling.
So if you fail to understand this truth & start saying that the Sanctuary being defiled in Dan 8:11 is BEFORE Jesus appears on earth as some CLAIM, you run the risk of being part of the little horn defiling Mykael, Jesus' (God's) Sanctuary!
@basicm Only by God's mercy. Once we are no longer innocent children and have broken a law, without knowing Jesus, Jesus without us, need show us mercy and take us. Then similar to if we knew Jesus as Saviour, we must repent, believe and receive the Holy Spirit. Receive Christ, receive grace. This is essential to having life. God gives life, not laws, Spirit, inside. For no angel can save us. Only God can fill you and change you, that there be no sin but love, so you enter His presence, and stay
@Prep Matt 24:31, It is not an angel that sends angels, and we know not which angels. Jesus never suggests He is Michael. Jesus did not have any kind of wings. Jesus had a power and nature far superior to, The Sum Total, of fallen angels, as demonstrated in the death and resurrection. John ch 2, Jesus says He will raise himself from the dead. What power! Jesus unlike angels, but servants, is a son, and makes us sons, when we receive Him. Unlike and angel His presence fills the cosmos and hearts
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
Jude says that Micheal the archangel and Satan argued about mosses body. Are you to tell me that God that gave the world to the devil2cor4:4 eps:2:2 John12:31, (to teach satan and mankind,2birds1hardstone) that His way will riegn Supremacy thru out the ages regardless, that Satan who knows his place, would be able to argue with God his creator? No clearly not. He argues with creation, not the creator. Micheal is an ArchAngel not God. Although you do realize all things live thru Gods spirit!!!!!!
MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL IS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.....REAL NAME WAS MICHAEL......THEY KILLED HIM IN PREACHING GOD WORD.....THE WORD OF GOD MARTIN AKA MICHEAL WAS NEVER SCARED..AND HE WILL COMBACK
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the Creator, the King of Kings, the Lord of lords. He is not an angel whom was created by Him. Look at the picture, Jesus is Himself, archangel is behind Jesus with the trumpet. Is it clear enough, guys? In the name of Jesus, I rebuke those who taught the false doctrine, will be judged by Jesus Himself. May Jesus forgive you when you repent to Him. Praise the Lord Jesus, my savior forever and ever. Amen
michael is described as a prince of the heavenly host because he keeps all angels in all ranks in line..since hes a warrior type angel...and jesus isnt a prince because hes god...even though hes the son but hes part of the ruling godhead...hes a diety...an angel isnt a god...so mike isnt the same person as jesus...
Don't confuse me with the sun of god, i am the son of man. and never ever forget that. During the sun of god you can not touch metal, in gods kingdom, you cannot look up unless you are under jesus christ/ the dome of the rock. caanan was a sinner. and this is why we go back to the land of sin, and it is a never ending god.
Wrong. I am michael. satan was oil. Jesus christ WAS our savior because everything written in his book happens during the "exodus". But the exodus is NOT the end of the world it is the new beginning. for 1,000 years we shall live in the land of sin, the land of caanan because of a celestial event called the sun of god. Antartica, the whore of babyl. Yes im blasphemous in the name of the lord but you forgot you are in gods kindom.The neverending books. For this sin i pay. You dont deserve to die.
@Rich7hard The LORD with the voice of another, his servant, one of the archangels. For Revelations mentions seven angels by the throne, who blow trumpets. It does not say the LORD will blow the trumpet, or shout.
Michael if one of the princes, and according to Hebrews is not promoted to King. Angels are never called "son".
Revelations 8:2 and Hebrews 1:5 and around it. It could be that Michael is with the seven angels before the throne with trumpets, and the one with the incense. Limited angel
1Th4:16 Jesus is returning as king, and as all kings or presidents they are always announced by the higher officer in rang and with a sound of trumpet. this ceremony was common in the bible time and hasn't changed in our time. So JESUS will be announced by Michael (who will SHOUT)and another angel will sound the tromphet of GOD because for the KING GOD is coming in GLORY. JC won't shout or sound the trumpet himself, but he will be introduced as Israel used to do with the Arck of God.
@Rich7hard 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
So the Lord shouts or blows a trumpet?
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony; and they loved not their life even unto death.
Why will the people of the future need beware after a primordial battle? Why Jesus blood? Prince Michael is not King
Jesus is King of Heaven, and King of angels, war with Jesus and His servant Michael and Michael's army war with Satan to protect Jesus and His interests, the souls and lands, for Michael knows his lot, and loves His Masters. Michael possibly more excellent in strength and obedience than any other angels obeys. Later when the sons of God, of Adam come of age, in glory, we will take over the house from the angels and will judge them. Psalm 103:20, Rev 17:14, 1 cor 6:3, Heb 1:4-6,13, 2:5.
An oxymoron, before time, in the beginning, there was a being, nothing else at all, no angels, no light, no stars, no dimensions like time, or volume... only the One being in three persons. One relational being. He they decide on more to relate, be friends with. To make another oxymoron, lesser equals. Angels are created, towards the climax of Adam. Angels cannot relate to God alike a glorious Adamic man. Servants compared to sons. No promotions. The greatest angel, Lucifer? He falls, takes 1/3.
A Hebrew Israelite? What makes you think I am one? I am a very proud SDA who believes that God brought about true worship in 1844 when He cleansed the Sanctuary, His Church, from false Roman doctrines.
I know for a fact that Mrs. Ellen Gould White is the prophecied prophet Elijah of Malachi 4:4-5 who was sent to EXALT the Law given at Mt. Horeb, ok!
Jonadon misunderstands, Wesley and Matthew Henry did not believe Michael was the pre-incarnate name of Jesus. And they were right. Jesus is the Holy One as from Dan 10:13, not Michael, even if he is the main of the chief princes, which would be a double adjective in Daniel's description. And from John 6:69. The Holy One of Israel is the pre-incarnate and post-incarnate name of Christ. Isaiah 54:5 goes here too. In Revelations12, Michael fights in the last days, we have a rager on Earth, 11-12..
WHAt? WHAT? Are you serious? Matthew Henry & Wesley did not believe that Mikayel the archangel was Jesus?
Google Daniel 10:13 NOW & click on the first option & it will take you to BIBLIOS & in there you will se the comments Matthew Henry & Wesley & Hill made about Mikayel. They all taught that He is YHWH/Messiah!!!
Or you can just GOOGLE their commentaries & look at the verses on Mikayel such as Daniel 12:1, Daniel 10:21 & Daniel 10:13.
@PreparetomeetthyGod I checked the commentaries a bit, and was surprised to find Wesley thought Michael was assisting Gabriel. I don't agree with Wesley's commentary now, but like his outflow of grace, revival. Nevertheless he was mistaken if he thought Michael was the Christ. Michael watched on of the life of Christ but was not incarnate, for Adamic men are sometimes sons of God, no angels are ever called "son." Prince is not King. I don't believe Michael serves Gabriel or that he is most high.
My friend, there are no 2 ways about it, Mikayel the archangel is YHWH. The IDENTICAL RESPONSE to Satan of Mikayel in Jude 9 LINKS Him to YHWH in Zechariah 3:2 where we see YHWH call on YHWH to rebuke Satan
@Prepar, No it doesn't. It can be that I AM says I by saying I AM, and I AM THAT I AM is three persons. In the Gospel when Jesus is revealed to be the Holy One by a spirit, it is remarkable to the Jews that he speaks and commands spirits by his own authority. Not by the Lord. King David is quoted in Hebrews as saying, "Lord said to my Lord." They willfully subordinate, the equals, first person to second... Michael does not have authority to rebuke Satan. YHWH revealed more than Michael on Sinai!
@PreparetomeetthyGod Michael says "Lord" not LORD, he says in Greek Kurios. "Lord" is from is Adon, or Adonai, "LORD" means YHWH. Then I go back to saying I AM can refer to Himself as I am, and that I AM is three persons. Instead of saying I, He says I AM.
Zec 3:2 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary: `Jehovah doth push against thee, O Adversary, Yea, push against thee doth Jehovah, Who is fixing on Jerusalem, Is not this a brand delivered from fire?'
@PreparetomeetthyGod The matter is in discussion in Christian Forums in the theology section called Christian Scriptures, it is clearing up the illusion a bit more, it seems in Dan 10:13 there were three supernatural people... Thread name; Dan 10:13 Wesley's Commenatry, Michael is the Christ?
My dearly beloved, what I have discovered about people rejecting the clear biblical teaching that Yeshua is Mikayel who clearly is YHWH, is that they attend Churches that are run by the Jesuits who have infiltrated the Bible.
Churches like the Roman Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox etc, have numerous archangels outside of the Bible in their book the Tobit. So in their interest to protect these unbiblical archangels, they reject Mikayel being God.
@PreparetomeetthyGod Fellow, where did Tobit come from? Doesn't it look plausible that according to Daniel's words "one of the chief princes." that there may be a a chief prince of being like God at healing, so we have Raphael from Hebrew rapha, healing and El, mighty one? How many chief princes are there? All but God are created beings. There was Creator, and none beside him. YHWH is a name which means I AM THAT I AM. So self existent, above time, above and sustaining creation. Not messenger.
The Tobit come from the wild imaginations of evil Jesuits who will answer to God for their lies, false teachings & Bible inflitration.
I mean, are you trying to claim that the Tobit comes from God??? Please!
Mikayel the archangel is God & not a created angel. Daniel 10:21 clearly says Mikayel is Israel's prince or ruler. We know that only God is Israel's ruler. No one other than God rules Israel. God is Israel's ruler King
@PreparetomeetthyGod Fellow, Dan 10:21 clearly shows Michael is a prince up to being "assistant" so clearly Israel has more than one ruler, furthermore, Daniel says there are several such chief princes, possibly equal to or greater than Michael. For Michael is not chosen to bear message for incarnation to Mary, mother of Jesus. But Gabriel is, either chosen or willing. It was Martin Luther who omitted Tobit, because there is no mention of it in Luke... Otherwise I think it was written in Hebrew
@savana906 i am with you. Jesus is not micheal.. that would mean that Jesus and devil are on the same ranking in angelic Kingdom. these who say this do not understand spiritual protocol, the ranking of Micheal,Gabriel and lucifer are equal but different in ministry. Micheal is an archangel of War, Gabriel is the archangel of Word (messeges from God) and lucifer who is now satan ranks as an archangel, he was archangel of Worship, That is why he was not able to prevail, he was no worrior
@savana906 ok so jesus is the son of God so why do you call Him God? and how do you explain the fact that Michael has so much authority in heaven, why does the scriptures call the angels Michael's angels and in revelation Jesus said i will send my angels, so who's Authority is the angel's under Michael or Jesus, thats why i believe Jesus is Michael
@savana906 based on your own "Jesus is The Son of God & He NEVER said He was or is Michael...." i agree He never said He is or was Michael, just like He never said He is or was God but people are running around calling Him God
@zipitup75 So whats your point? and your video...? your video talks of Michael being Jesus, and now you say Jesus is not God. So if you agree that Jesus never said He was Michael then why have you made a video saying that Michael is Jesus??
@savana906 sweatheart it's not my video i'm not the author i just commented on it, my point is why is it so far fetch to believe that He is Michael, but it's not far fetch to believe that he's God?, some of us assume that he's God based on scriptures that indirectly points to Him being God even though Jesus never said He was, and some of us say he is Michael in Heaven based on scriptures I.E (Daniel) that indirectly say that He is Michael even though jesus never claim to be
@zipitup75 Sorry for the delay- Well I think an apostle asked Jesus '' Where is God or who is God'', and Jesus answered you are looking at Him, though don't quote me on that cos I'm not sure. But if its so theres your answer.
@savana906 here is the verse Philip said to Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need."
Jesus answered, "Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you should know me. The person that has seen me has seen the Father too. jesus didnt say i am God but it's easy to understand why someone would call Jesus God, jesus also said that the words that He spoke and the miracles that He did was done through Him by God, " Jesus also said i cast out demons with the power of God (His father)
@zipitup75 Michael is given authority as troop leader of angels.. He leads only the troops that go for war unlike Gabriel who leads the troop of messengers.. Jesus is God and Son of God because He is one with God. Hebrews ask aquestion to them who are lost in this.. Paul says ' to which of His -ANGELS- did He ever say you are my Son and today i have begotten you?'Jesus says when He was ceased, do you not know i can ask my Father and He would send legions, He has authority yet He asks the Fatha
@SuperMTATE begotten is sexual meaning the father had sex with mary, thats one of the reason why it was thrown out of the bible, i dont follow paul like most christians do, because most of his books contradict Jesus. its just weird because scriptures call the angels michael's and it also calls the angel's Jesus's i dont believe that Jesus is God and son of God if you read Hebrews 5:1-10 its talking about Jesus having Godly fear, but who is He fearing if He himself is God?
@SuperMTATE Note in Hebrews, it does not say "To which of the Archangels" there is only one Archangel and that is Michael, the first and primary Prince, the very name means "He who is like God" Mat 13:41 states that the the Son of Man, Jesus, will send out His angels, similarly Michael and His angels were fighting against the dragon.. We know also that the Commander of the Heavenly Host in Joshua 5:13-15 is God, that is Jesus Christ. =)
@Mekelsior No there are about seven head (arch) messengers or malakim,first off the word angel is pagan, and the the one called mikha'el means who is like unto Aluahym or El,which means the ''strong one''.The reason why there is so much confusion cause the words and names have been replaced with titles by religious organizations.All the prophets or nebi'im spoke hebrew,get yourself a hebrew script or go look up the besorah on the internet,this is a false teaching.
Remember that the book of Revelation is a prophetic book that uses symbols. The woman in Revelation 12 for instance, symbolises God's people or the Church. The serpent symbolises Satan. So who does Mikayel symbolise?
@PreparetomeetthyGod Well first lets look at the word heaven,or in heb (shema'yim) which can refer to the upper regions in other terms among the stars.In rev12,it says their was war in heaven,the dragon and his messengers against mikha'el and his,this is not some peaceful abode,where the maschiyach (messiah) stands.In rev 12 it says the accuser was cast down to the earth,these fallen messengers roam the upper regions,Eph 6:12 furthermore he will not fight physically his sword is the Word.
Sorry but you have not answered my question. I asked who Mikayel symbolises in Rev 12. Some have been in denial & told me that He symbolises Himself which was very unsatisfactory indeed.
And as for your claim that Yeshua will not fight, well Revelation 19:11 says you are wrong. It says Yeshua, the word of God, MAKES WAR & in Revelation 19:14 it says THE ARMIES OF HEAVEN follow Him.
Still say He is not Mikayel in Rev 12:7?? So are there TWO ARMIES/TWO LEADERS in Heaven?
@PreparetomeetthyGod You did not comprehend what i wrote,you interpret scripture using your own logic, mikha'el is mentioned by name so he would not symbolize anyone else.Furthermore when u understand that the malakim (messengers) that rebelled are no longer allowed into the eternal place,you will understand that this event prophecied in rev 12 will take place in the physical.And when Yahuwshuwa (not yeshua) comes what do you think he is going to slay them with? the law/Torah not man made weps.
You wrote "And when Yahuwshuwa comes what do you think He is going to slay them with? The Law/torah not man made weps"
Friend that is exactly the point you are missing in Revelation 12!!!
Mikayel is slaying the serpent aka satan & his angels WITH THE LAW!! He is slaying them with the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD & THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS which is interpreted in Revelation 19:11 as the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.
So Mikayel, God, Yeshua bringS back the Law & a prophet into the Church.
@PreparetomeetthyGod That is not accurate ,first these fallen messengers are cast to the earth along with their ''master'' who has deceived them, before the coming of the son of Adam.It does not say he was defeated in Rev12,it says the accuser has been cast down,who has led the the whole world astray.This is an completely diffrent prophecy then the coming of Son of Adam, prophecied in Rev19 which is After the power of satan with all power lying wonders and falsehood
@PreparetomeetthyGod And like he said he comes in his fathers name,meaning his name will have his fathers name in it! If you can't see this its because you've been intoxicated into a stupor,no other name shows this but the name of the only brought forth son.And out of every verse that mentions mikhael,this one in particular just because he is shown fighting with the adversary does not make it a veiled reference to the messiah.Remember he comes after all these things take place,not before.
To say Mikayel could not be symbolic of God/Messiah because He is mentioned by name is to be dishonest to say the least.
Its a clear refusal to read God's word. You need to consult Genesis 3:15 to see that the serpent was prophecied to fight with the Messiah.
Also why would God entrust a fight that involves the salvation of His people Israel to a mere created angel? What if the serpent were to defeat this angel? The war against God's Law/sin is fought by God Himself.
@PreparetomeetthyGod Php 2:9 Wherefore Aluahym (Yah) hath highly exalted him and given him a name that is above every name: above every one even mikhael,so how could you continue to say that they are one in the same? or that this particular script out of all the times he is mentioned is symbolic of messiah?? Mikha'el did not bring the torah (law) did not instruct nor will he.You have much to learn,it does not say he would war but he would crush his head,this is symbolic but not until His coming.
Mikayel is God. The war against sin, against the commandments of God, is fought by God Himself. Please read the Bible & quit with your opinions & you will find that NOWHERE is Satan aka the serpent EVER left to any created angel.
It is God Himself who ALWAYS takes on Satan because only in Him is victory certain. In the book of Job for instance, is the controversy between God & Satan or a mere created angel?
Or what about Zechariah 3:2? Its God versus Satan, ok!
I admired St. Michael Archangel, our family experienced His presence and protection, that time when my brother Michael Angelo was attacked by the evil spirit, Michael the archangel showed up to him and saved him. 어 and they also have the same name...and I think Jesus is not Michael, Jesus is the King...:P
mquia92 2 days ago
Christ is King.
ImaNord 2 weeks ago
Chris Cornell is Christ come again
TheGeorgeWHayduke 2 weeks ago
i am Michael
TheGeorgeWHayduke 2 weeks ago
Archangel Michael is not Jesus...
Jesus asked God to forgive his enemies for they knew not what they were doing
Michael does not forgive his enemies because he knows that they know exactly what they are doing
we are all sons and daughters of God but some will not accept that and have chosen the way of the dragon (and im not talking about Bruce Lee) and therefore they must be destroyed
TheGeorgeWHayduke 2 weeks ago 2
@TheGeorgeWHayduke i agree with you, none of the angels forgive, even samael played a role of a demon and betrayed adremalech and a bunch of other demon generals
darkangelmnk 2 weeks ago
HEY HOW DO YOU NOW HOW A ANGEL LOOKS LIKE IF YOU HAVENT SEEN ONE WHITES FANTASY LOL
leylakurda 2 weeks ago
well think of it this way u guys kno the multiverse theory right maybe micheal nd jesus are the same person but at the same time, they arnt. maybe jesus is somewhat of the earthly version of micheal ya know jesus kill the antichrist micheal is supposed to kill lucifer in end times. just like think about it its just a theory
tpetru1123 3 weeks ago
"I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him." - Ecc.3:14. This means that only God can create or destroy and whatever He creates, nobody else can add to or subtract from it - not even an archangel. So, Jesus need to be God in order to keep both Ecc.3:14 and Col.1:16 valid simultaneously. CASE CLOSED! ! !
9906197439 3 weeks ago
I see something else...Michael was the replacement of the Fallen Angel Satan...he took over the position or Seat of Satan which actually means not "Enemy--Adversary" but "Lord of the Tones" (music of God). Satan is confused with Lucifer also--he was a Lucifer once--that is to say he was a "bearer of the Light of God" but he fell from this position because self-importance rather than Love was chosen by him and he adhered to this course until he lost his First Love losing also his First Estate.
KeysLCoatELSept2011 3 weeks ago
Heresy blasphemy fools No no no I can't believe there's churchs who teach this I knew right away these claims are out of context Please my brothers and sisters religion is not the way it's man made Trust and seek Kingdom of God first Meaning to me always seek pray and do what scripture says Dont listen to people like this guy
Kaviaq 3 weeks ago
Jesus, who was made lower than the angels (Heb 2:9) ...emptied Himself, became a servant (Phil 2:7-8) while He walked on earth had more power than Michael. In Mat 4:10-11 & Luke 4:8 Jesus commanded satan to leave Him & satan obeyed... In Jude 1:9 Michael did not dare command satan to do anything but sought the Lords help to overcome satan.
If having the voice of the archangel makes Jesus Michael, then having the trump of God makes Him God...This you will not agree to. Your logic is flawed.
digger629 3 weeks ago 2
@digger629
But we have to understand who is Michael. He is the only one named archangel, It means highest messenger who is like God.
John 3:16 says God loved the world that He gave His only begotten son. The word begotten means only one like Himself. Jesus is the mediator. No one comes to the Father except through Him
Jondadon2006 3 weeks ago
@Jondadon2006
Archangel may mean highest messenger, but only in the ranks of the class of angels.
Jesus is mentioned 983 times in just the New Testament alone...Michael is only mentioned 5 times in both the Old & New Testament & is referred to as, "just one of the chief princes."
Only begotten means: "THE ONLY ONE OF IT'S KIND."
Michael is not Jesus.
Jesus is not Michael.
Jesus is God.
Michael is a created archangel created by Jesus who created all things. (Col 1:16)
digger629 3 weeks ago 2
This person is trying to clash the scriptures together, he is mendeling with the scriptures
Maeroa145 3 weeks ago
People come out of this church
Maeroa145 3 weeks ago
This is a heresy, here I know that this church exalt the worship of Angels
That is probably the secrete of this movement
Maeroa145 3 weeks ago
Arch angel is also a title? and not an "angel"? Help me out here. I don't think any Christian would believe that Yeshua is a created being or an angel. Now using archangel or Michael as a positional title, that makes sense.
jimiduzit 3 weeks ago
So in other words Michael is not the name of an angel in this context but a title given to Jesus?
jimiduzit 3 weeks ago
i got curious to this because that Michael guy is always showin up in the Bible doin stuf that only seems appropriate of someone as powerful as that guy Jesus. i'm thinking the guy we know as Jesus is the guy Gabriel knows as Michael. Jesus was in fact kickin around in heaven for ever. nobody but us would call Him Jesus. Gabriel wouldnt. why would he? why dont we just ask Gabriel what he calls Jesus? 'Like God' would probably be his response--or Michael.
metalreign1 4 weeks ago
THE LORD HAS MEANY NAMES! I BELIEVE FOR DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF HIM OR HER
SELF!! NOT MEANY HUMANS WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND NO MATTER HOW
INTELLIGENT THEY THINK THEY ARE! GODS WAYS ARE MYSTICAL AND MYSTERIOUS!
GOD IS ONLY LOVE AND LOVE IS A BIG MYSTERY IT SELF! NOT MIND ITS FROM ONES SOUL! MINDS CANT UNDERSTAND LOVE ONLY THE SOULS CAN! MAY GOD BLESS YOU.
StarLightPlanets 4 weeks ago
The Aryan heresy has been condemned very long. Centuries before the Jehovah Witnesses even thought of creating their own version of the Bible. This is not new, and it will not stick.
Fetrovsky 1 month ago
In the beginning was the Word and the word was with God and the word was God. The word was made flesh and dwelt among us. To which of the angels did Yahweh say "Sit at my right hand?" Yahweh made his only begotten son better than the angels, including Michael. JWs say if you cover the name of Michael with your finger you would think it was Jesus. I could say the same for Abraham and Isaac. A shadow and a type of Jesus, no doubt. But not Jesus. Jesus is the right arm of Yahweh and the word of God
jdb0905 1 month ago
All this is to show all of you that only by faith will man know and understand God. Jesus said what he said for us to return to God. Much information is fragmented, layered, and obscured about Jesus, and Michael, and all things in heaven and earth. All this will come together by faith and faith alone. Without faith we will be decieved, and divided by the enemy. The enemy is defeated but we do not have the faith to know it. How can we know of heavenly things if we don't understand earthly things.
BSmenot 1 month ago
Angels come in the NAME of the Lord, that means, that they bear the Name of God. They are Titles given to those Angels that carry out the Lords work, The Angel of His Presence, The Angel of the Lord on Mt Sinai, No man has seen and heard God, so, the Angels and His Son, come in His Holy Name. to do His work because this is Gods plan.......Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord!
dandy74able 1 month ago
the literal translation says 'And the head of the kingdom of Persia is standing over-against me twenty and one days, and lo, Michael, first of the chief heads, hath come in to help me, and I have remained there near the kings of Persia. how is Michael an angel? if Joshua worships and calls him lord? how can an angel stand up for a nation? only God does that. Jesus said the dead shall hear the voice of the Son of God. paul says THE Archangel voice. Michael means WHO IS LIKE GOD.
TheRenegadeGiratina 1 month ago
@TheRenegadeGiratina An angel is a term used to describe a being who is a messenger. Michael is an archangel. In the bible it has been stated that God speaks in the voice of archangel, which would mean that He is able to send out His words through the archangel Michael. An angel can only carry what he has heard from God, where as an archangel can allow a conversation between God and a being whom God wishes to speak with through himself.
revoltingtomato 1 month ago
@TheRenegadeGiratina In other words, an angel is like the e-mail transporter of God, where as an archangel would be a phone or a webcam of God. Michael, therefore, allowed Joshua to send his worship over to God through him, not that he received Joshua's worship for himself.
revoltingtomato 1 month ago
@TheRenegadeGiratina Satan did look beautiful on the outside, but his fall must have changed his outer appearance. He is now being referred to as seven-headed serpent of the olden days. If Michael, like dragon, happened to be a symbol, then why doesn't the Bible reveal his identity as it did for Satan?
revoltingtomato 1 month ago
Hellooooo..
The bible was changed by Constantine to serve satan and the cabal people who hang on these words are the ones being led into perdition that means lost in french! Word PERDU=lost.. for one God is not wrathfull Satan is! God loves us all even Ted Bundy n Dahmer bunch of fools! Wake the fuck up...I am sick of U bible thumpers we are ALIENS N SO IS GOD! ARCTURIS = arcturian = God period!
Quay1962 1 month ago
@Quay1962 getting into specifics of aliens and angels is just a great deception and completely unecessary. something we as humans will never understand until we pass the test of faith. a gift given from god the father which we will never obtain until we follow the steps of creation. jumping ahead and saying that you already know whats what, is like saying as a child, "i already know that when i grow up i will be a fireman" without continuing school or learning from ur mistakes over time to grow.
burquetman 1 month ago
@Quay1962 i prey that your personal quest for truth and understanding leads you to the pure, true, love of Jesus Christ the savior and nothing else.
burquetman 1 month ago
Sorry where can I find in the Bible that says Michael the Archangel is God himself and can a Jehovah witness please tell me why did they listen to the New World translation when they know they have translated it wrong on purpose
nyguy88L71 1 month ago
Yes the JW believe that the Lord Jesus Christ is not God but Michael the Archangel but if you read the Scriptures Jesus Christ is God in other words God was manifested into man or you like he came down to visit his people and extrude the Scripture says the Jews did not recognize them
nyguy88L71 1 month ago
wow really cool i knew he God and michael?
nyguy88L71 1 month ago
Fyi Ishtar is not who I said anyways! Look up nibiruan council since frackin U tube is blocking me from tellin ya the truth lol is U who will have egg on their face and all misguided souls who think they know love n light yo cutie
>^..^<kitty ::*:: galaxy thats who our origins are from like Aslan lol reasearch it before u judge!
Quay1962 1 month ago
Well cutie I hate to be the messenger with bad news! U are worshiping the bible written for and by Satan n the cabal! Many souls are being led into perdition cuz of that! be the last one in line! I dont care love U despite Ur vile self!
Namaste Quay
Quay1962 1 month ago
I have to let U all in on what I know.. since the fall of Atlantis most of us lived durring that time we all chose to incarnate here if ya can believe that one! We have lived from both sides of the sword as rich as poor as slave as fool etc so we could get lifes angles from every view n circumtances.. how many people does that make Us n 17,500 years!!? at least 300 selves! U dont think the Arc,s could become something else for different rolls? Christ is the seed of God PERIOD
Quay1962 2 months ago
He is an Arc Angel he is OUR Galaxys deffender, other name is Ashtar Sheran he is the Comander of the Galactic Federation of lightships see ireneaura her vids will tell ALL OF U WHAT IS TRUTH! Arc Angel Gabriel is Metatron by the way also a comander along with Haton, Vrillon and did Ya'll know they All are just outside OUR REALM cuz the shit is about to hit! do the frackin research dude/dudette who put this lie up. the trumpet is gonna sound soon who will be blowing it!
Quay1962 2 months ago
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@Quay1962 That is a big fat lie. Ishtar a is pagan idol and a demonic spirit. So is your ascended masters and your Haton, you New Ager. Don't you ever dare to compare Jesus-Michael, the one true God, with those devils. This is heresy and blasphemy. Gabriel has nothing to do with the demon Metratron. You are being deceived and brainwashed. But if your wish to be a brainwashed slave for the NWO satanists and their demonic entities, it's your problem...
Cutie9326 1 month ago
I have yet to hear one SDA pray to Micheal. If they Believe Micheal is Jesus Pray to him and see how wrong it sounds. Or even call him God and see how it feels.
UncleBadTouch100 2 months ago
BOB MARLYYYYYYYYYYYYBLOWWW The trompet.
rondeklip11 2 months ago
David worshipped alongside the father(1 Chronicles 29:20). 5. You still haven't addressed my questions which where how is it possible for 2 kings to rule at the same time when the bible says only one king will rule at the end times? And where in the bible is Jesus called God of Gods?
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
@teflonfanatic I give you scripture you minipulate it's text. Why waist my time with you playing musical chairs?
No where does it say Moses was God. Jesus told Moses that he will be 'LIKE' God to them. You see that word like? Just as the same we are all made in Gods image. Even more so since Christ died for our sins we are God like. No we are not divine but we are like God in nature. Haha david surely is No god. In psalms 110. He reffered to the Messiah(Jesus) as Lord.
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
the divine nature because the father is spirit(John 4:24), higher forms of life in the spirit realm doesn't change the fact that they're spirit just like the father. Also humans who get the heavenly reward can partake of the divine nature(2 Peter 1:4) You say you completely answered my question but your last 2 posts had nothing to do with more then one king ruling at the same time and yet not nullifying scripture...
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
not in even in that verse, as for Colossians I don't deny it I just don't believe he did it alone, even trinitarians are forced to admit this or believe in modalism since they believe they're 2 SEPARATE PERSONS!!!
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
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Jesus is the creator of all things seen and unseen, all things were made by him and for him. Colossians 2:9-10 For in Christ all the fullness of the deity lives in bodily form. The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit is God of Gods!
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
Yes, Jesus is the Prince of Princes but he is also The King of Kings and the God of Gods!!!
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
@Endymion7Ra: Where in the bible is Jesus called the God of Gods? Last time I checked only the father was called God of Gods( Daniel 2:47). Daniel who was an israelite only knew Jehovah not Jesus. Even if that was Jesus in that verse(which it wasn't) how can the title God of Gods be applied to Jesus if he has a god above him(John 20:17, Revelation 3:12)
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
No one has ever seen God the father except the only begotton that sits at the Father's right hand John 1:17-18. That is Jesus Christ. Jesus and the Father are one John 10:29. If you have seen Jesus you have seen the face of the Father John14:7. God is the creator of all things Colossains 1. If you want more scripture pull up a pin and paper I'll have so much scripture from the old and new testament your pen will start smoking there will be so many scriptures for you to write
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
@Endymion7Ra: You don't address my question but rather assert I deny the deity of Christ like most people who believe Jesus is the archangel michael. I believe the divine nature is spirit so if your a spirit being then you have the divine nature since the father is a spirit being. Jesus and the father are one in purpose read John 17:20-25, You take John 14:7 to be seeing the face of the father when that's impossible according to Exodus 33:20 so that can't be literal especially when face is cont.
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
@teflonfanatic I completley answered your question. What else do I have to break down to you? what is your belief system? It sounds like your own religion, which extinguishes an aregument between you and I. How is the divine nature spirit when we established Colossians 2:9-10. What are you saying humans are gods? you got me lost break down your spiritual belief and your understanding of the trinity. If not I'm waisting my time
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
@Endymion7Ra: I'm Arian but I don't follow the belief system 100%, also you say how is the divine nature spirit and then give me colossians 2:9-10 which doesn't at all address your question... I will say this about Colossians 2:9-10 the fullness of the divine quality(theotetos can be rendered that way) is in him because it pleased the father(Colossians 1:19). I'm not saying humans are Gods although the father can appoint or allow anyone to be God but rather if your a spirit being you have cont..
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
@teflonfanatic Man then I can care less about your personnel views, in other words your claiming to be your own deity. Have a nice life dude. Your waisting our time unless you want understanding.
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
@Endymion7Ra: 1. I was not trying to claim to be my own deity in fact I don't even think I have the heavenly hope. 2. I would obey the watchtower command to stay away from here if I didn't want understanding. 3. You seem to have a problem with my questions and ignore the scriptures I post, I don't have a problem with the scriptures you post or questions. 4. Yes the father can appoint or allow anyone to be God, Moses God to his own prophet(Exodus 4:16) CONT...
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
@teflonfanatic *Sarcastic* Too bad Watchtowers are not allowed to think for themselves. One must be very blind not to see that the many proofs of Christ's Deity in the Bible. But of course, since the Watchtowers are not allowed to think for themselves and their Bible is a fraud (do research on the subject), they remain blind. "First born" is not "first created", that's first in rank and authority, preeminence, etc...
Cutie9326 1 month ago
No....he is saying Jesus is an incarnation of Michael, therefore Michael was incarnated into the guy you know as jesus in order to teach us how to respect eachother. Makes sense if you think about it. When he talks about christ he means the christ conscious and the only way to gain the consciousness of christ is to think with your heart.
Keanu1987 2 months ago
No Sir. Jesus, is God. Not been created but in Flesh. Michael or Gabriel only serve the Lord. they were created by the Lord's word, The name is Raphael, the Archangel is Jesus. the Angel of the Lord is Jesus. Jesus is Jehovah. Michael is only a created been celestial one of the most exel server of the Lord. But Michael is not Jesus.
praiserofjehova 2 months ago
I always thought it was odd that the Messenger put his hand on daniel and gave him strength the same way he did to john in revelation
DallasTheGreat28 3 months ago
@DallasTheGreat28 Yeah but that angel needed Michael's help to defeat the king of persia. so how can that angel be michael and Jesus?
Endymion7Ra 2 months ago
@Endymion7Ra its all complicated....i dont know enough to make sure statements yet...
DallasTheGreat28 2 months ago
@DallasTheGreat28 Do an in-depth, extensive Bible study on the subject with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, then you will not. Jesus is both God and the Archangel. Study the original Hebrew and do research on the Malak Yahweh...
Cutie9326 1 month ago
@DallasTheGreat28 See what the Malak Yahweh says to Moses and Joshua and see how they react. Mere created angels (the good ones) do not accept worship and they rebuke those who try to worship them. See how the what the angel say to John when the apostle try to worship him in Revelation. The Malak Yahveh/the Captain of the Host/Jesus was the only Supernatural Being who accepted worship. Jesus is both God and the Archangel...
Cutie9326 1 month ago
@Endymion7Ra You got it all wrong. The angel needed Michael's help to defeat the king of Persia, which obviously means that THAT angel was NOT Michael, since he need Michael's help. It was another that Michael helped. The angel who spoke to Daniel in that passage was probably Gabriel, since Gabriel was commanded to give Daniel the meaning of the dream. The prince of Persia withstood Gabriel for 22 days and then Michael came to his aid. With the help of the Deity, Gabriel won and reached Daniel.
Cutie9326 1 month ago
@Cutie9326 You bonehead! I know that! I never said that angel was Michael. It's states in that chapter that it is Gabriel
Endymion7Ra 1 month ago
@Cutie9326 Gabriel needed Michael's help
TheRenegadeGiratina 1 month ago
@TheRenegadeGiratina And Michael needed God's help.
revoltingtomato 1 month ago
explain what?
nyguy88L71 3 months ago
@nyguy88L71
oh sorry i misunderstood your comment. its ok
Jondadon2006 3 months ago
God and Jesus are the same they are one!
yes Jesus is God made into man or made human!
Michael is one of 7 Archangel's
why do the JW don't understand the jw lie to all f you!
nyguy88L71 3 months ago
@nyguy88L71
explain that please
Jondadon2006 3 months ago
@Jondadon2006 not only that. but the book of REVELATION. is a book of symbols. satan is shown as a dragon. does satan look like a dragon? no its a symbol its the same Michael is a symbol of Jesus. the Bible says Jesus and His angels coming Revelation. Michael and His angels. the Bible never says seven archangels. revelation says seven spirits seven ANGELS NOT ARCHANGELS.
TheRenegadeGiratina 1 month ago
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revoltingtomato 1 month ago
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@nyguy88L71: My question for those who don't believe Jesus is Michael, can 2 spirit beings reign as King at the same time? And if so wouldn't that contradict the bibles prophecy of having only one king wear the crown of David at the end times?
teflonfanatic 2 months ago
@nyguy88L71 Archangel is only found in the singular in the Bible, never in the plural. There is but one Archangel. You are being deceived by the Catholics and their false doctrine...
Cutie9326 1 month ago
@nyguy88L71 JW have it wrong when they say that Jesus is created being, but if you do an in-depth, extensive bible study on the Archangel, you're gonna find out that Jesus is both God and the Archangel Michael. I suggest you study the original Hebrew and do research on the Malak Yahweh...
Cutie9326 1 month ago
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@nyguy88L71 the literal translation says. 'And the head of the kingdom of Persia is standing over-against me twenty and one days, and lo, Michael, first of the chief heads, hath come in to help me, and I have remained there near the kings of Persia;
TheRenegadeGiratina 1 month ago
what this idiot doesnt understand, the who? is that when yer born again christ lives thru you, so he lives thru those he, who? ... a false preacher this man is that has no clue to the truth. trust not in your own understanding, thats what God/jesus said. who?....is this false preacher mimicing an owl? or who? michael is a redeemed sinner that christ takes over and lives thru. you are a liar for hire, whoever spoke this false message.
maxwellmaxter 3 months ago
@maxwellmaxter "michael is a redeemed sinner that christ takes over and lives through", where is your text in the bible to prove this? There are none!! Preacher makes sense...pray about it
etueni1 3 months ago
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@etueni1 you are wrong you are badly mistaken, this preacher is a false preacher, thus the repetitive who? that i mocked. here is the proof, "on that day you will realize that i am in my father, and you are in me, and i am in you!" there's yer proof. do you need me to tell you the chapter and verse? you pray about it!!!
maxwellmaxter 3 months ago
ASSURANCE OF SALVATION: Not works to boast of. God will not tolerate sin in His presence. God sees your heart. Inside you must be filled with the Holy Spirit of grace and receive Christ, not receive and angel!! To receive Christ you must believe in Christ for who He is, God's Son and the Holy Spirit as a person. Three co-equal, co-eternal, Co-existing persons. Then inside you are cleaned, and warmed, and justified, made a child of God, all by grace. You have the ability to stay in Heaven, no sin
Novatene 4 months ago
Michael isnt a Angel... Jesus isnt Michael.... God did say watch out for those who preaching false doctrine.... Now Michael is Jesus? and Jesus wasnt created?..God is going to spank you good for preaching all this falsehood...see Satan knows he will be defeated by Michael the Human and its so embarrasing 4 satan because God is going to allow Man to defeat him... If satan convince man that and angel name Michael is after him then no man would ever stand up to satan because of this lie.. amazing..
meshakaa 4 months ago
@meshakaa wow thanks, you really get it. and let me guess, english is your second language? i needed to hear what you said here. the man that defeats him will be inspired by god and filled with the holy spirit, the words he will speak will not be his own, but those given to him from the throne. that day is very close. praise god he is awesome!!!!
maxwellmaxter 3 months ago
@maxwellmaxter.. perhaps you are a europeans and it would take more then simple common english make you understand what was said or meant.....wooooow! the white man is the last to make any sense out of religion..lool...too much blood on your fingers.. and you wont be able to hear what i said here because i was only typing. im on a level which you could never reach,,and thats why u must read it again. but a person with the spirit of God could comprehend it very well ,,unlike killers
meshakaa 3 months ago
@meshakaa where do you come off with this reply to what i said??? this is the funniest part, you typed,"im on a level you could never reach." he who exalts himself will be humbled. i want you to know that your arrogance is only exceeded by your ignorance. you definitely havent been born again.
maxwellmaxter 3 months ago
@maxwellmaxter ..Surely its not myself whose has exalt me to this state and you know why.. because my Birth Name means 'the prince on the right side of God'... you know every Name has usually a definition..well! thats what my name means... and its justified to say God has given me wisdom and has placed me on a high level himself... Im not being Arrogant,, Test the spirit to see if its coming from God.. Im here to facilitate the truth concerning misconceptions of God and these Books. ! MTP
meshakaa 3 months ago
@meshakaa jesus said no good can come from you unless you are grafted into the vine, so tell me how you were grafted. this is the test. i expect an essay answer.
maxwellmaxter 3 months ago
@meshakaa well i tested it and its not the spirit of god. . otherwise you would have told me the truth, but you dont know it or him, the one who spoke and is and was the truth. you havent been born again. therefore you cant enter the kingdom of heaven.
maxwellmaxter 3 months ago
@maxwellmaxter you havnt test the spirit sir, and futhermore, jesus did say.. a nation thats is divided cant stand..jesus was actually saying, good and bad cant exsist together or nor can the darkness dwell together with the light,,it must be seperated...If u have test the spirit and things i have said wasnt from God then im assuming i would had been speaking of witchcraft, soccery, voodoo or any evilness, If what u say is true Sir,,, then i have cursed and would be a great sinner..Right?
meshakaa 2 months ago
@meshakaa i know the spirit of truth, very well. some truth embellished with lies, is not the truth. i asked you to tell me how you recieved the holy spirit and you dodged, because you have no clue. unless yer born again, there is no hope for you. you can do no good unless you have been grafted into the vine, and you obviously have not.
maxwellmaxter 2 months ago
Pastor Myers broke it down precisely in this presentation for all you superstitious, non-conceptual people that think God doesn't exist in EVERY dimension: Yehoshua(Jesus) is God Almighty in the 3rd dimensional realm, do you understand?? That is the realm in which we exist!! Just like Brother Myers said here, MICHAEL IS THE PRE-INCARNATE JESUS, MEANING JESUS BEFORE BEING MANIFESTED INTO THE 3RD DIMENSIONAL HUMAN FORM. TRUE SCIENTIFIC EXPLANIATION AND BIBLICAL REVELATION ARE ONE AND THE SAME
delayyrock 4 months ago
Why did the new testament apostles never mention anything about Michael?
basicman101 4 months ago
@basicman101
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
PreparetomeetthyGod 4 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod Can I NOT believe that Jesus was Michael and still go to Heaven?
basicman101 4 months ago
@basicman101
Personally, I believe that if you refuse to understand Scriptures you risk sending yourself to hell. Jesus being Mykael means that He is the PRINCE of the hosts in Dan 8:11 whose Sanctuary the little horn is defiling.
So if you fail to understand this truth & start saying that the Sanctuary being defiled in Dan 8:11 is BEFORE Jesus appears on earth as some CLAIM, you run the risk of being part of the little horn defiling Mykael, Jesus' (God's) Sanctuary!
Can u afford that?
PreparetomeetthyGod 4 months ago
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@basicman101
Personally, I believe that if you refuse to understand Scriptures you risk sending yourself to hell. Jesus being Mykael means that He is the PRINCE of the hosts in Dan 8:11 whose Sanctuary the little horn is defiling.
So if you fail to understand this truth & start saying that the Sanctuary being defiled in Dan 8:11 is BEFORE Jesus appears on earth as some CLAIM, you run the risk of being part of the little horn defiling Mykael, Jesus' (God's) Sanctuary!
Can u afford that?
PreparetomeetthyGod 4 months ago
@basicm Only by God's mercy. Once we are no longer innocent children and have broken a law, without knowing Jesus, Jesus without us, need show us mercy and take us. Then similar to if we knew Jesus as Saviour, we must repent, believe and receive the Holy Spirit. Receive Christ, receive grace. This is essential to having life. God gives life, not laws, Spirit, inside. For no angel can save us. Only God can fill you and change you, that there be no sin but love, so you enter His presence, and stay
Novatene 4 months ago
@Novatene Thanks Novatene. I will put my trust in Jesus name.
basicman101 4 months ago
@Prep Matt 24:31, It is not an angel that sends angels, and we know not which angels. Jesus never suggests He is Michael. Jesus did not have any kind of wings. Jesus had a power and nature far superior to, The Sum Total, of fallen angels, as demonstrated in the death and resurrection. John ch 2, Jesus says He will raise himself from the dead. What power! Jesus unlike angels, but servants, is a son, and makes us sons, when we receive Him. Unlike and angel His presence fills the cosmos and hearts
Novatene 4 months ago
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@basicman101
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
PreparetomeetthyGod 4 months ago
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@basicman101
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
PreparetomeetthyGod 4 months ago
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@basicman101
My dearly beloved Jesus Himself said He is Mykael. In Matthew 24:31 He says the Son of man will send HIS ANGELS. We know that He means Mykael who is said in Rev 12:6 to HAVE ANGELS. Also in Matthew 24:31 He is verifying what He said in Matthew 24:15 where He spoke of the abomination that causes the desolation spoken by the prophet Daniel.
We know that the primary reference of this desolation is in Daniel 8:13 which against Mykael the Prince of the host in Dan 8:11
PreparetomeetthyGod 4 months ago
wow! listen to how he is coaching them like they are little children. WAKE UP!!
basicman101 4 months ago
Jude says that Micheal the archangel and Satan argued about mosses body. Are you to tell me that God that gave the world to the devil2cor4:4 eps:2:2 John12:31, (to teach satan and mankind,2birds1hardstone) that His way will riegn Supremacy thru out the ages regardless, that Satan who knows his place, would be able to argue with God his creator? No clearly not. He argues with creation, not the creator. Micheal is an ArchAngel not God. Although you do realize all things live thru Gods spirit!!!!!!
ghfjtuflhg 4 months ago
Come on, Bibel has changed for the past 1500 years, Re riting and deleted chapters, Let people hav ther own belifes in Jesus,
TheArchangellover 4 months ago
MICHAEL THE ARCHANGEL IS MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.....REAL NAME WAS MICHAEL......THEY KILLED HIM IN PREACHING GOD WORD.....THE WORD OF GOD MARTIN AKA MICHEAL WAS NEVER SCARED..AND HE WILL COMBACK
coldfirebeats1 5 months ago
Jesus is the Alpha and Omega, the Creator, the King of Kings, the Lord of lords. He is not an angel whom was created by Him. Look at the picture, Jesus is Himself, archangel is behind Jesus with the trumpet. Is it clear enough, guys? In the name of Jesus, I rebuke those who taught the false doctrine, will be judged by Jesus Himself. May Jesus forgive you when you repent to Him. Praise the Lord Jesus, my savior forever and ever. Amen
TimmyTrungLe 5 months ago
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michael is described as a prince of the heavenly host because he keeps all angels in all ranks in line..since hes a warrior type angel...and jesus isnt a prince because hes god...even though hes the son but hes part of the ruling godhead...hes a diety...an angel isnt a god...so mike isnt the same person as jesus...
luckypapi87 5 months ago
Don't confuse me with the sun of god, i am the son of man. and never ever forget that. During the sun of god you can not touch metal, in gods kingdom, you cannot look up unless you are under jesus christ/ the dome of the rock. caanan was a sinner. and this is why we go back to the land of sin, and it is a never ending god.
MikeHicks1234 5 months ago
Wrong. I am michael. satan was oil. Jesus christ WAS our savior because everything written in his book happens during the "exodus". But the exodus is NOT the end of the world it is the new beginning. for 1,000 years we shall live in the land of sin, the land of caanan because of a celestial event called the sun of god. Antartica, the whore of babyl. Yes im blasphemous in the name of the lord but you forgot you are in gods kindom.The neverending books. For this sin i pay. You dont deserve to die.
MikeHicks1234 5 months ago
@Rich7hard The LORD with the voice of another, his servant, one of the archangels. For Revelations mentions seven angels by the throne, who blow trumpets. It does not say the LORD will blow the trumpet, or shout.
Michael if one of the princes, and according to Hebrews is not promoted to King. Angels are never called "son".
Revelations 8:2 and Hebrews 1:5 and around it. It could be that Michael is with the seven angels before the throne with trumpets, and the one with the incense. Limited angel
Novatene 5 months ago
1Th4:16 Jesus is returning as king, and as all kings or presidents they are always announced by the higher officer in rang and with a sound of trumpet. this ceremony was common in the bible time and hasn't changed in our time. So JESUS will be announced by Michael (who will SHOUT)and another angel will sound the tromphet of GOD because for the KING GOD is coming in GLORY. JC won't shout or sound the trumpet himself, but he will be introduced as Israel used to do with the Arck of God.
cybermouk 5 months ago
@Rich7hard 1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first;
So the Lord shouts or blows a trumpet?
Rev 12:11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb, and because of the word of their testimony; and they loved not their life even unto death.
Why will the people of the future need beware after a primordial battle? Why Jesus blood? Prince Michael is not King
Novatene 5 months ago
Answer: Michael Jackson.
lijit77 5 months ago
Jesus is King of Heaven, and King of angels, war with Jesus and His servant Michael and Michael's army war with Satan to protect Jesus and His interests, the souls and lands, for Michael knows his lot, and loves His Masters. Michael possibly more excellent in strength and obedience than any other angels obeys. Later when the sons of God, of Adam come of age, in glory, we will take over the house from the angels and will judge them. Psalm 103:20, Rev 17:14, 1 cor 6:3, Heb 1:4-6,13, 2:5.
Novatene 5 months ago
An oxymoron, before time, in the beginning, there was a being, nothing else at all, no angels, no light, no stars, no dimensions like time, or volume... only the One being in three persons. One relational being. He they decide on more to relate, be friends with. To make another oxymoron, lesser equals. Angels are created, towards the climax of Adam. Angels cannot relate to God alike a glorious Adamic man. Servants compared to sons. No promotions. The greatest angel, Lucifer? He falls, takes 1/3.
Novatene 5 months ago
@MrTonybthedon
A Hebrew Israelite? What makes you think I am one? I am a very proud SDA who believes that God brought about true worship in 1844 when He cleansed the Sanctuary, His Church, from false Roman doctrines.
I know for a fact that Mrs. Ellen Gould White is the prophecied prophet Elijah of Malachi 4:4-5 who was sent to EXALT the Law given at Mt. Horeb, ok!
PreparetomeetthyGod 5 months ago
Jonadon misunderstands, Wesley and Matthew Henry did not believe Michael was the pre-incarnate name of Jesus. And they were right. Jesus is the Holy One as from Dan 10:13, not Michael, even if he is the main of the chief princes, which would be a double adjective in Daniel's description. And from John 6:69. The Holy One of Israel is the pre-incarnate and post-incarnate name of Christ. Isaiah 54:5 goes here too. In Revelations12, Michael fights in the last days, we have a rager on Earth, 11-12..
Novatene 5 months ago
@Novatene
WHAt? WHAT? Are you serious? Matthew Henry & Wesley did not believe that Mikayel the archangel was Jesus?
Google Daniel 10:13 NOW & click on the first option & it will take you to BIBLIOS & in there you will se the comments Matthew Henry & Wesley & Hill made about Mikayel. They all taught that He is YHWH/Messiah!!!
Or you can just GOOGLE their commentaries & look at the verses on Mikayel such as Daniel 12:1, Daniel 10:21 & Daniel 10:13.
PLEASE DO FRIEND if you are honest
PreparetomeetthyGod 5 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod I checked the commentaries a bit, and was surprised to find Wesley thought Michael was assisting Gabriel. I don't agree with Wesley's commentary now, but like his outflow of grace, revival. Nevertheless he was mistaken if he thought Michael was the Christ. Michael watched on of the life of Christ but was not incarnate, for Adamic men are sometimes sons of God, no angels are ever called "son." Prince is not King. I don't believe Michael serves Gabriel or that he is most high.
Novatene 5 months ago
@Novatene
My friend, there are no 2 ways about it, Mikayel the archangel is YHWH. The IDENTICAL RESPONSE to Satan of Mikayel in Jude 9 LINKS Him to YHWH in Zechariah 3:2 where we see YHWH call on YHWH to rebuke Satan
This clearly shows that Mikayel is YHWH.
PreparetomeetthyGod 5 months ago
@Prepar, No it doesn't. It can be that I AM says I by saying I AM, and I AM THAT I AM is three persons. In the Gospel when Jesus is revealed to be the Holy One by a spirit, it is remarkable to the Jews that he speaks and commands spirits by his own authority. Not by the Lord. King David is quoted in Hebrews as saying, "Lord said to my Lord." They willfully subordinate, the equals, first person to second... Michael does not have authority to rebuke Satan. YHWH revealed more than Michael on Sinai!
Novatene 5 months ago
@Novatene
You say Mikayel does not have authority to rebuke Satan? So what about YHWH in Zechariah 3:2?
Zechariah 3:2 The Lord said to Satan, "The Lord rebuke you, O Satan!
So what do you make of this Scipture in Zechariah 3:2 then? YHWH is calling on YHWH to rebuke Satan. Does that mean He is not YHWH?
PreparetomeetthyGod 5 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod Michael says "Lord" not LORD, he says in Greek Kurios. "Lord" is from is Adon, or Adonai, "LORD" means YHWH. Then I go back to saying I AM can refer to Himself as I am, and that I AM is three persons. Instead of saying I, He says I AM.
Zec 3:2 And Jehovah saith unto the Adversary: `Jehovah doth push against thee, O Adversary, Yea, push against thee doth Jehovah, Who is fixing on Jerusalem, Is not this a brand delivered from fire?'
YLT
Novatene 5 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod The matter is in discussion in Christian Forums in the theology section called Christian Scriptures, it is clearing up the illusion a bit more, it seems in Dan 10:13 there were three supernatural people... Thread name; Dan 10:13 Wesley's Commenatry, Michael is the Christ?
Novatene 5 months ago
@Novatene
Where can I find these discussions? Any videos of them on the internet? Wesley did teach that Mikayel is the Christ/God
PreparetomeetthyGod 5 months ago
@MrTonybthedon
My dearly beloved, what I have discovered about people rejecting the clear biblical teaching that Yeshua is Mikayel who clearly is YHWH, is that they attend Churches that are run by the Jesuits who have infiltrated the Bible.
Churches like the Roman Catholic Church, the Greek Orthodox etc, have numerous archangels outside of the Bible in their book the Tobit. So in their interest to protect these unbiblical archangels, they reject Mikayel being God.
Its sad to watch.
PreparetomeetthyGod 6 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod Fellow, where did Tobit come from? Doesn't it look plausible that according to Daniel's words "one of the chief princes." that there may be a a chief prince of being like God at healing, so we have Raphael from Hebrew rapha, healing and El, mighty one? How many chief princes are there? All but God are created beings. There was Creator, and none beside him. YHWH is a name which means I AM THAT I AM. So self existent, above time, above and sustaining creation. Not messenger.
Novatene 5 months ago
@Novatene
The Tobit come from the wild imaginations of evil Jesuits who will answer to God for their lies, false teachings & Bible inflitration.
I mean, are you trying to claim that the Tobit comes from God??? Please!
Mikayel the archangel is God & not a created angel. Daniel 10:21 clearly says Mikayel is Israel's prince or ruler. We know that only God is Israel's ruler. No one other than God rules Israel. God is Israel's ruler King
To say so is pure blasphemy
PreparetomeetthyGod 5 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod Fellow, Dan 10:21 clearly shows Michael is a prince up to being "assistant" so clearly Israel has more than one ruler, furthermore, Daniel says there are several such chief princes, possibly equal to or greater than Michael. For Michael is not chosen to bear message for incarnation to Mary, mother of Jesus. But Gabriel is, either chosen or willing. It was Martin Luther who omitted Tobit, because there is no mention of it in Luke... Otherwise I think it was written in Hebrew
Novatene 5 months ago
Michael and Jesus are not the same. Jahovah witnesses are a cult.
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youneekk 6 months ago
Your all wrong
gunay205 7 months ago
God can work through us all. some more than others.
TheAngryarchangel 7 months ago
@savana906 i am with you. Jesus is not micheal.. that would mean that Jesus and devil are on the same ranking in angelic Kingdom. these who say this do not understand spiritual protocol, the ranking of Micheal,Gabriel and lucifer are equal but different in ministry. Micheal is an archangel of War, Gabriel is the archangel of Word (messeges from God) and lucifer who is now satan ranks as an archangel, he was archangel of Worship, That is why he was not able to prevail, he was no worrior
SuperMTATE 8 months ago
You are irrelevant, read Hebrews again. You are a deceiver. No excuse for false teachers.
BSmenot 8 months ago
You worker of satan use lovely words to deceive many!
Jesus is The Son of God & King of Kings! He is not an angel! this video is blasphemous against Jesus Christ!
I rebuke you in the name of Jesus Christ!
savana906 9 months ago 6
@savana906
My friend this is what happens when people do not listen because if you did, it would clearly show that we are not saying Jesus is AN angel
Jondadon2006 9 months ago 2
@Jondadon2006 Michael is not Jesus either. Jesus is the Son of God The Creator of everything.
savana906 9 months ago
@savana906
That is what was said in the video. Please listen to it all
Jondadon2006 9 months ago 5
@savana906 ok so jesus is the son of God so why do you call Him God? and how do you explain the fact that Michael has so much authority in heaven, why does the scriptures call the angels Michael's angels and in revelation Jesus said i will send my angels, so who's Authority is the angel's under Michael or Jesus, thats why i believe Jesus is Michael
zipitup75 9 months ago
@zipitup75 Dear zipitup75, Honestly.... I'm speechless! I've had a difficult day, will get back to you tomorrow.
But just one thing, Jesus is The Son of God & He NEVER said He was or is Michael.... so please lets keep our sanity! :)
savana906 9 months ago
@savana906 based on your own "Jesus is The Son of God & He NEVER said He was or is Michael...." i agree He never said He is or was Michael, just like He never said He is or was God but people are running around calling Him God
zipitup75 9 months ago
@zipitup75 So whats your point? and your video...? your video talks of Michael being Jesus, and now you say Jesus is not God. So if you agree that Jesus never said He was Michael then why have you made a video saying that Michael is Jesus??
savana906 9 months ago
@savana906 sweatheart it's not my video i'm not the author i just commented on it, my point is why is it so far fetch to believe that He is Michael, but it's not far fetch to believe that he's God?, some of us assume that he's God based on scriptures that indirectly points to Him being God even though Jesus never said He was, and some of us say he is Michael in Heaven based on scriptures I.E (Daniel) that indirectly say that He is Michael even though jesus never claim to be
zipitup75 9 months ago
@zipitup75 Sorry for the delay- Well I think an apostle asked Jesus '' Where is God or who is God'', and Jesus answered you are looking at Him, though don't quote me on that cos I'm not sure. But if its so theres your answer.
savana906 9 months ago
@savana906 here is the verse Philip said to Jesus, "Lord, show us the Father. That is all we need."
Jesus answered, "Philip, I have been with you for a long time. So you should know me. The person that has seen me has seen the Father too. jesus didnt say i am God but it's easy to understand why someone would call Jesus God, jesus also said that the words that He spoke and the miracles that He did was done through Him by God, " Jesus also said i cast out demons with the power of God (His father)
zipitup75 9 months ago
@zipitup75 Hey thanks! you know the scriptures better than me! :)
savana906 8 months ago
@zipitup75 Michael is given authority as troop leader of angels.. He leads only the troops that go for war unlike Gabriel who leads the troop of messengers.. Jesus is God and Son of God because He is one with God. Hebrews ask aquestion to them who are lost in this.. Paul says ' to which of His -ANGELS- did He ever say you are my Son and today i have begotten you?'Jesus says when He was ceased, do you not know i can ask my Father and He would send legions, He has authority yet He asks the Fatha
SuperMTATE 8 months ago
@SuperMTATE begotten is sexual meaning the father had sex with mary, thats one of the reason why it was thrown out of the bible, i dont follow paul like most christians do, because most of his books contradict Jesus. its just weird because scriptures call the angels michael's and it also calls the angel's Jesus's i dont believe that Jesus is God and son of God if you read Hebrews 5:1-10 its talking about Jesus having Godly fear, but who is He fearing if He himself is God?
zipitup75 8 months ago
@SuperMTATE Note in Hebrews, it does not say "To which of the Archangels" there is only one Archangel and that is Michael, the first and primary Prince, the very name means "He who is like God" Mat 13:41 states that the the Son of Man, Jesus, will send out His angels, similarly Michael and His angels were fighting against the dragon.. We know also that the Commander of the Heavenly Host in Joshua 5:13-15 is God, that is Jesus Christ. =)
Mekelsior 8 months ago
@Mekelsior No there are about seven head (arch) messengers or malakim,first off the word angel is pagan, and the the one called mikha'el means who is like unto Aluahym or El,which means the ''strong one''.The reason why there is so much confusion cause the words and names have been replaced with titles by religious organizations.All the prophets or nebi'im spoke hebrew,get yourself a hebrew script or go look up the besorah on the internet,this is a false teaching.
streakz1231 7 months ago
@streakz1231
Remember that the book of Revelation is a prophetic book that uses symbols. The woman in Revelation 12 for instance, symbolises God's people or the Church. The serpent symbolises Satan. So who does Mikayel symbolise?
He cannot possibly symbolise Himself!
PreparetomeetthyGod 7 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod Well first lets look at the word heaven,or in heb (shema'yim) which can refer to the upper regions in other terms among the stars.In rev12,it says their was war in heaven,the dragon and his messengers against mikha'el and his,this is not some peaceful abode,where the maschiyach (messiah) stands.In rev 12 it says the accuser was cast down to the earth,these fallen messengers roam the upper regions,Eph 6:12 furthermore he will not fight physically his sword is the Word.
streakz1231 7 months ago
@streakz1231
Sorry but you have not answered my question. I asked who Mikayel symbolises in Rev 12. Some have been in denial & told me that He symbolises Himself which was very unsatisfactory indeed.
And as for your claim that Yeshua will not fight, well Revelation 19:11 says you are wrong. It says Yeshua, the word of God, MAKES WAR & in Revelation 19:14 it says THE ARMIES OF HEAVEN follow Him.
Still say He is not Mikayel in Rev 12:7?? So are there TWO ARMIES/TWO LEADERS in Heaven?
PreparetomeetthyGod 7 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod You did not comprehend what i wrote,you interpret scripture using your own logic, mikha'el is mentioned by name so he would not symbolize anyone else.Furthermore when u understand that the malakim (messengers) that rebelled are no longer allowed into the eternal place,you will understand that this event prophecied in rev 12 will take place in the physical.And when Yahuwshuwa (not yeshua) comes what do you think he is going to slay them with? the law/Torah not man made weps.
streakz1231 7 months ago
@streakz1231
You wrote "And when Yahuwshuwa comes what do you think He is going to slay them with? The Law/torah not man made weps"
Friend that is exactly the point you are missing in Revelation 12!!!
Mikayel is slaying the serpent aka satan & his angels WITH THE LAW!! He is slaying them with the COMMANDMENTS OF GOD & THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS which is interpreted in Revelation 19:11 as the SPIRIT OF PROPHECY.
So Mikayel, God, Yeshua bringS back the Law & a prophet into the Church.
PreparetomeetthyGod 7 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod That is not accurate ,first these fallen messengers are cast to the earth along with their ''master'' who has deceived them, before the coming of the son of Adam.It does not say he was defeated in Rev12,it says the accuser has been cast down,who has led the the whole world astray.This is an completely diffrent prophecy then the coming of Son of Adam, prophecied in Rev19 which is After the power of satan with all power lying wonders and falsehood
streakz1231 7 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod And like he said he comes in his fathers name,meaning his name will have his fathers name in it! If you can't see this its because you've been intoxicated into a stupor,no other name shows this but the name of the only brought forth son.And out of every verse that mentions mikhael,this one in particular just because he is shown fighting with the adversary does not make it a veiled reference to the messiah.Remember he comes after all these things take place,not before.
streakz1231 7 months ago
@streakz1231
To say Mikayel could not be symbolic of God/Messiah because He is mentioned by name is to be dishonest to say the least.
Its a clear refusal to read God's word. You need to consult Genesis 3:15 to see that the serpent was prophecied to fight with the Messiah.
Also why would God entrust a fight that involves the salvation of His people Israel to a mere created angel? What if the serpent were to defeat this angel? The war against God's Law/sin is fought by God Himself.
PreparetomeetthyGod 7 months ago
@PreparetomeetthyGod Php 2:9 Wherefore Aluahym (Yah) hath highly exalted him and given him a name that is above every name: above every one even mikhael,so how could you continue to say that they are one in the same? or that this particular script out of all the times he is mentioned is symbolic of messiah?? Mikha'el did not bring the torah (law) did not instruct nor will he.You have much to learn,it does not say he would war but he would crush his head,this is symbolic but not until His coming.
streakz1231 7 months ago
@streakz1231
Mikayel is God. The war against sin, against the commandments of God, is fought by God Himself. Please read the Bible & quit with your opinions & you will find that NOWHERE is Satan aka the serpent EVER left to any created angel.
It is God Himself who ALWAYS takes on Satan because only in Him is victory certain. In the book of Job for instance, is the controversy between God & Satan or a mere created angel?
Or what about Zechariah 3:2? Its God versus Satan, ok!
PreparetomeetthyGod 7 months ago
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streakz1231 7 months ago