Torturers are not defenders. I'm in the military and I would rather die than have my country resort to torture. Why dont you consider the men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan trying to HELP the people there heroes. CIA is not heroes bro.
GITMO detainee's should be waterboarded - oh wait the dems don't believe in waterboarding. O.K. so lets lock them in a room with Pelosi for 8 hours - naw that is cruel and unusual punishment. Lets settle on listening to Obama's speeches. Didn't Obama give the queen an Ipod with all his speeches? Was he trying to get information from her?
Better yet lets lock them in a room with Pelosi, Reed, Frank and Dodd, that will get a confession faster than anything else will.
I already explained it above. But I might add that when we waterboard them and uncover their plan to nuke a city, then that is good for the environment, is it not?
only one problem. No true useful information has been obtained under waterboarding. In fact, only WRONG information has been obtained and you went into iraq.
There has never been a situation that necessitated Jack Bower. You are buying into bush and cheney's lies.
Torture is not needed drugs exist that will break all defenses and precipitate all information being forthcoming in questioning . These torture technics are to show the world that this administration is above the law. These are egotistic,hubris filled, power hungry, demigods who feel their feces smell of roses. This administration was not wrong to attack our enemies but torture is not us and is the work of pure evil.
I can't believe anyone would condone "enhanced interrogation". Obviously, these terrorists are sitting in their caves having debates as to the ethics of flying planes into buildings, and I hear they are feeling bad. (note the sarcasm)
These aren't enemy combatants, these are cowards, and they don't deserve the rights we afford true warriors. Soldiers tend to have mutual respect for one another, even across borders. These aren't soldiers.
Oh, boo hoo! Save us--protect us--prevent another 9/11. But whatever you do, be politically correct. We would not want to offend any terrorist who, by the way, wouldn't hesitate for a second to torture, rape, decapitate, and/or blow up your sorry ass just for the hell of it. Now it will take the next president years to undo the thoughtless, naive, destructive, and completely moronic actions of this one. Barry--we hardly knew ye!
I agree with you, and I support the use of real torture. Not the fancy almost politically correct effeminate method they used.
And go after their family to torture them in front of the captured high ranking Al Qaeda officers. When you are done with torturing somebody, put a bullet in their head and dump them in a pit.
this is fucken bullshit these guys are fucken terrorist this president is a dumbass why is he stopping torturing heck if they had captured you they would of cut your head off god knows what they would do stupid president
What the hell does Obama mean he's not going to prosecute???!!!!!! He's supposed to be separate from the Justice Dept. If he is speaking on behalf of the justice Dept, He's acting illegally and highly inappopriate! Is torture a crime or isn't it? If it is, it needs to be prosecuted? What's next allowing some people to rape, but not others? Allowing some people to murder, but not others? Obama's just a moderate republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Personally I think the CIA has threatened Obama and his family if he were to pursue a Bush War Crimes investigation. The CIA is dirty, look who used to run it, Bush Sr.. Why else would Obama make a 180 degree turn on his stance to prosecute war crimes? Someone has gotten to him, and given him an ultimatum. Just like JFK tried to change things, look what happened to him! Our government is being run by people like the Bilbderberger Group which is hidden from the media on purpose, We are screwed.
But torturing in an effeminate way some Al Qaeda operatives is totally fine. The few nazis that were found guilty participated is the extermination of millions of innocent civilians... Dont try to make silly comparison.
'torturing in an effiminate way?" This kind of sentence formulation makes it obvious the right wing is more desperate than we thought. When Pol Pot perpetrated genocide in Cambodia he employed children as guards, murderers and torturers. Is that to say he authorized 'childish genocide'? What escapes your dim attention is the fact that any kind of torture is reprehensible, that civilized societies find it abhorrent and that it is embraced by thugs and monsters and terrorists.
google 'ONE WORLD ORDER' and it will tell you everything ..this is a dliberate momney problem. its created by greedy americans that are too fuckin stupid to be greedy without bfucing up the vwhole world. america and great britian started this 'global' shit to create the new world order where we are all dependant slaves. the crich eat the poor. billionaires bailing out billionaires! a created crisis! they dont bail out the poor! there is no crisis! wake up america!!!!!!!!
American officers were paying local gangsters money to bring in bodies
America has even locked up children in Gitmo!
An American woman who won a lawsuit against her local township was charged by that same township for being a "Paper Terrorist" (felony D - mandatory time Patriot Act), when she tried to exercise her judgment against the twp
And if someones off their rocker for preaching the constitution, sound money, and less government.... wow.... so you want fascism? you would like the government in your life?? you dont like privacy???
Support Obama...LOL...Robert Gates...Rohm Emmanuel...
i never thought id quote pure evil like this, "We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them." J Edgar Hoover. IE, LIBERALS!
Yea you're completely off your rocker... You'd rather vote for a puppet because he's...black? charismatic? Go ahead and vote with the populace, we all know the masses are dumb as hell anyways.
OBAMA!!! CHAAANGE!!!!
you're a damn joke... your vote would have been better off going to McCain, but im sure you have no idea why.
Words are cheap as all hell, and its people like you that make me entertain the idea of a test before you go into the voting booth as not such a bad one..
Your a useless piece of society so dont act like you know shit, if u voted mc cain, three words : suck my dick. You lost cause mc cain sucked, dont make excuses "oh the masses, theyre evil they voted the black guy" The mass population knows whats good for them, hows that for democracy fucking loser.
Everything...How would you like to be torture without even being proven innocent or guilty? What if you were innocent, how would you like to see your people being torture around you. It's a scary and upsetting place to be. It's inhuman and it's not so far off Hitler's to-do-list when he was around. America can fall in the wrong hands too, and it has.
The topic of torture maybe only appeals to a select few who get the point, but how about the masses?
Lets not forget how popular that Jack Bauer "24"-crap had been with many - a television series that is basically permanent propaganda-cum-glorification for torture disguised as family entertainment.
Why do people not shove this series up the author´s a**?
Also there still is the death "penalty" (=legalized murder) in several of the States - also supported by not exactly very few people!
Brennan has backed out of being considered for this pick. He said that there are too many accusations swirling around him and that this is too important of a position to have any distractions. So whether or not what was said about him is true, it's certainly respectable that he'd pull himself out for the better of the country.
Excellent Call Cenk! It really is messed up when Obama promises all this "Change We Need" only to even consider the such shady, undignified people from the Bush Admin into his Administration. He's got to quit with the crowd pleasing already and make some honorable choices here. Reward the people who do the right thing, condemn those who are wrong. We desperately need NEW direction with NEW people. That is the only way.
A true patriot wouldnt be bitching about the president elect and complaining about the country. So if because I dont, that makes me unpatriotic well so be it. First off I said that in reference to the racist who call Obama a monkey which is a sad attempt to be racist due to he is black and I said simply and truthfuly If you dont like it MOVE. Sorry hun but I'm not the conformist, I voted for the guy thats different and offered change you on the other hand remain clueless. :)
Even if the he wasnt the right choice for the country??? You make no sense and think being a patriot is waving your american flag on the back of your Ford F150. Who did i vote for? I voted for the guy who wants to ABOLISH THE CIA, the FED, and restore the Gold Standard...Technically i voted for a lot more change than you did, "hun". And i agree with you on the racist thing, but you're dead wrong: a true patriot would bitch so much it would force real change.
the next time obanana gives a speech be sure to bring some banananas, after the speech throw him a banana just don't hit him with the banana or you will get fuck by the fbi. you will be all over the news for real. also don't forget to yell white power and white pride,
I voted for obama but i don't think change is coming, there are too many lobbyists and whatnot. I do think with obama we will see slightly lower amounts of extreme stupidity in the government.... :)
MrTightAllTime *as per your boyfriend said it was everytime he bent ya over, hence your id* Whats all the talk about the bananas?... this is a comment space not a place for your gay fantasies...lol So anywho, get used to President Obama, like it or not hes your president & if your not happy... MOVE! perferably some gay planet since you have some banana fetish & thats just ungodly and not good for the kids to read let alone watch. MrTight takes a banana in the tail pipe. ooo you so nasty LOL :)
You know thats what all supporters of this corrupt government say... "if your not happy... MOVE!"
Be realistic...people have families, businesses, jobs, responsibilities. If i cared nothing for my fellow Americans i would leave...but i hope to God nobody would ever be that selfish.
A true patriot wouldnt leave...if we had done that during the American Revolution we would be talking with a british accent...
bush is a better person than obama, color people didn't vote for bush but bush had more color people in his cabinet, obama put all the clinton whites in his cabinet, obama is nothing but a house nigger, next rally throw a bananaa at obanananaan
get your head out of your ass or your mama's pussy you stupid fucking whore job. you know damn well bush is a way better person than obama or obananana, really the next time obanana talks throw him a bananan, monkeys love bananana
wow "throw a banana at the monkey"......typical republican, nascar watching, uncle fucking, sister licking, goat humping, nazi saluting, trailer trash fucking drunk.........get a life queer. because if you are the cross section of the GOP, you are a closet homo or a pedophile.
Waterboarding is not torture. It's a great way to get terrorists to tell about their plans to kill people.
If it prevents terrorist attacks, I say do it, for the people that are against it, maybe you'll be the next victim of a terrorist attack, that's poetic justice.
No, torture is not a great way to get terrorists to tell about their plans to kill people. You watch too much '24'.
Torture IS a great way to get terrorists (or innocent people who've been falsely accused) to give FALSE information just so they can stop being tortured. If someone tortured you long enough you'd make stuff up too. Why not?
"Do you know who else supports Torture and does Torture whenever they capture prisoners"
Yet people on the left don't seem to want to condemn Al-queda as quickly or as harshly as when they do it. They cut off the heads of journalist and kill aid workes and not one f'n peep comes out of the liberal media or condemnation whatsoever but when Bush does it or is accused of doing it then he becomes the anti-christ.
So if al Qaeda rapes and murders 15 year old girls then by t3chnabbale argues that we should too!
People like t3chnabble just dont get it. America is superior to the al Qaeda's of the world; in ideas, in principles, in morals, we rise above the filth and blaze a trail of righteousness and human decency.
You have to have evidence on them to hold them, just as you would for any criminal. You cannot torture them because it is against basic human rights. I'm sorry you feel that america should act like a terrorist nation. Thankfully your beliefs are a generational thing.
You argue that if al Qaeda wants to kill you then you kill them, that if al Qaeda wants to torture you then you torture them...
So continue your train of thought bud. If al Qaeda wants to rape and kill your 15 year old daughter, then your logic demands that we in turn rape and kill the daughter of an al Qeda operative. And the madness continues until at the end of the day you are no better than the people you claim to hate!
In your scenario, If Al-Qaeda rapes and kills a 15 year old girl...the retaliation is not to rape and kill another innocent girl...that makes no sense.
The retaliation is to RAPE (with a bat) and kill the Al-Qaeda perpetrator....and NOT an innocent person.
To say There are no 15 year old girls in Al-Qaeda is to ignore the point, the point is just because our enemies do it doesn't give us the right to do it. Viloence is the easy way out
I quite agree - We should certainly defend ourselves, but as an example, the heinous slaughter WE have perpetrated in Iraq should have been well beneath us. The torture issue is just an extension of the same mentality - it's the same thing we claim is wrong with people like Hussein. Hypocrisy at its finest.
i'm definately one of those people. I chose the lesser of 2 evils. When doing that, you are still choosing evil. I don't really believe that Obama will bring about change, I'm so sick of the 2 party system. I would have voted for Cynthia McKinney. Although I do believe that anybody who ascends that high in the political ladder, to the level of running for president, they are all somehow corrupt, greedy and guilty. Its just not possible for a good person to run for president
Obama is not blowing my hair back. From what it looks like, he is marching lock step with the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Hiring Hillary Clinton, the DARLING of the party, is an example. Daschle too. Both had voted for this war.
once again Cenk our opinions match perfectly, im not sure what Obama is up to at the moment but Brennen? really? Please Obama dont try to be the middle man to much it will just blow up in your face. Im not relgious but I agree with a bible phrase: be hot or cold but do not be lukewarm
Anytime I see something I don't like going on in politics I speak my mind at the congressional hearings for the state, because they are open to the public in my state.
For me, prayer is the ultimate weapon. You may not believe in any Gods, but I intend on keeping that prayer alive. To me, that is the most useful thing I can do....
The fact is that the guy represents the CIA faction openly supporting Obama now ergo he is Obama's "reach across the aisle" pick. Obama is mostly just doing what he did as president of the Harvard Law Review, i.e. making lemonade out of lemons. The CIA has always done such evil stuff and always will tho not openly. Its a revolving door agency for NSA layoffs and mecenary espionage terrorists. Looks like Obama is respecting the status quo in US "diplomatic" relations which takes decades 2 change.
Yeah, there is big concerns that Obama is going to be a puppet for the whole mindset of "America deserve's respect" in it's world views instead of giving it. Hence he will carry out several of the policies of the Bush administration.
He will most likely improve domestic US policty and improve the country, but in the terms of foreign policy... things don't like like much is changing.
He's still best friends with Israel. Needs to look at both sides of conflict before judging.
Obama's choice so far to fill his cabinet has left me puzzled to say the least. But on the other hand, what could the wrong people being in office possibly do to make matters worse than what Bush's administration has done? Nuke someone? Start WWII?
Why is EVERYONE attacking Obama?? Bush fucked up the U.S. before the 2004 election; yet everyone said we will give him six months to get us out of this mess. It has been a little more than six months and Bush has just made it worse but is still here. Yet before Obama gets into office he is already being slaughtered. And on what basis?? The people who voted for bush are all of a sudden all-knowing in the political realm?? This prejudgment should have been used 4 or better yet 8 years ago.
What will it take for you republicans to shut up and let things play out like you did with bush. why is it you want to complain now but while bush was president i heard none of this.
I just don't believe that we can PRE-judge Obama. How many other presidents were pre-judged like this. People are just waiting for Obama, no hoping Obama messes up so they can jump on his case. If this same judgment was used 8 years ago, I don't think we would be in the situation that america is currently in.
khargrove,I dont want to pre-judge Obama nor do I hope he screws up. I take no pleasure raining on the singing and dancing for the new Pres elect. Dems missed their chance at integrity by shunning Kucinich, the GOP missed their chance for the same with Ron Paul. I hope I am wrong about Obama, we will see.
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bush is a better person than obama, color people didn't vote for bush but bush had more color people in his cabinet, obama put all the clinton whites in his cabinet, obama is nothing but a house nigger, next rally throw a bananaa at obanananaan
After watching the way President-Elect Obama put together his campaign and made it work I for one am willing to watch and see if he uses the same ability to judge people and their abilities for his Cabinet. He could have taken the easy way and picked Senator Clinton for V.P. but he chose the candidate he believed would be the best for the country he could pick the most popular choices for his Cabinet or he can pick the people he believes will get the job done, personally I want the job done.
I can't really knock Obama for supporting torture but I can knock liberals who wish to turn the other way when there guy is doing the torture while Bush couldn't say boo to them during his presidency. At least this turk guy isn't being hypocritical or anything and bashing everyone equally.
I never been a strong proponent of torture but at the same time I can see how there could be situations where it would be affective in getting critical info from a detainnee. I know it sounds cruel and all but war is cruel and these people have sworn to kill every American in sight so we have to use whatever way needed to save lives.
Can someone please tell me how in the hell people are already knocking obama before he has done anything?? You people gave bush 7 years and you won't even give obama one day before you start knocking him.
he hasn't even made the decision yet. People were saying that Hillary Clinton was a top candidate for vice president that didn't happen. Do you know how many "top candidates" Barack Obama has. Not meaning to sound like an asshole but I hate how people are so quick to judge Obama but let Bush slide for years.
idk if i like whats happening. this center right bullshit is annoying. we are no longer "cente-right" people!! why else would he do this? i really dont know enough about that guy to really make a judgement on him but i dont like what im hearing in this video.
It's the Geneva Convention and the UN Charter -- which, for the rest of the world, is above the United States -- that define human rights for all human beings, not just Americans.
I'll believe it when I see Obama in front of the press announcing his cabinets...but do ppl actually believe the CIA is an agent of human rights and rule of law? The CIA was created to do criminal activities the tax payers and American gov't do not need 2 know or defend in the public eye.
We are naive if we think Obama will bring any immediate Progressive changes. I'm surprised Obama hasn't been rumored 2 be appointing ppl who had the guts 2 fight Bush, like Richard Clarke.
Cenk, you've been supporting Obama for quite some time now. I knew to get off the bandwagon a long time ago. Are you surprised that there's absolutely no change coming at all?
Obama, if you're listening, be fucking careful. Don't believe the conservative hype that we're a bunch of sheep who voted for you without knowing anything. We voted for you because we trusted you to bring change. If you want a second term, follow what you said: "We will not torture."
Head of the CIA, what do you expect of someone who is to work in such a position?
At any rate, while I was an Obama supporter throughout the election and have voted for him, the more time passes the more I see that Obama is going to be the same shit with a different name. It is my fault for being naive enough to believe he was somehow going to be different, I guess.
> At any rate, while I was an Obama supporter throughout the election and have voted for him, the more time passes the more I see that Obama is going to be the same shit with a different name. It is my fault for being naive enough to believe he was somehow going to be different, I guess.
You fell for the duopoly. Your vote never counted.
If you want to have effective influence, get involved with some ground-level watchdog organization at the congress level.
Of course! He is the same shit. people, you need to wake up to the NWO rule. It does not mattter if you vote republican or democrat, both parties obey the same rulers. the elitist bankers control the world. They make it seem like you only have 2 options, but people did not want to see past the lies they fed them; people want seconds, thirds and so on. Wake up people, and see who are really in control. They have you fighting each other, dividing and conquering.
That's why I like Cenk, whether I agree with his views or not, he always calls it the way he sees it and lets us know why. I also have to say that no public official will ever be able to please everybody, and even those who support them will a disagreement about the choices they make. I just truly pray that Obama is making as many right decisions as he possibly can to help better us. God Bless....
This might be brilliant. John Brennan has all the shady international secrets of the last administration. Intimate knowledge of those moves can definitely help clean up the mess.
I understand some of the concerns over certain Cabinet choices, but I'm going to hold off on making any judgements until I see them in action. Regardless of their individual histories, this will be Obama's administration, and the credit or blame for how they perform will ultimately fall on the President's shoulders. He's given me a real sense of hope and optimism so far; with two months before he's even been sworn in, it's a bit too soon for us to be throwing him under the bus.
I have been so disappointed with Obamas appointments and choices he is considering for his administration . By the choices he has made so far I can safely say that "change we can believe in" was nothing but a slogan and a way to garner votes
I think you are missing the point! I think Obama is making the right moves! We all speculated about obamas decisions during the campaign and it turned out he was the smartest guy in the room! I think he needs to keep some of the "wolfs" around at the same time extending the olive branch of peace to the rest of the world! I am anti war but i am also common sense, there are alot of people who dont like us as a result of the last 8 years!
Stop torturing our troops and families of foreign countries and bring home our troops Obama warmonger lair,cheat and thief .
411American 11 months ago
Too many simpletons watching 24.
Don't you go around the world "liberating" people and shit, bringing your "good" way of life?
Is that how you do it? Or creating more animosity against US, dumbasses?
Damn, you people are really in deep deep coma. Unbelievable.
But of course all of this is conditionment.
"USA#1-USA#1-USA#1"
I guess repetition makes a truth where you are from.
alleyghost 2 years ago
I love how the detainees have become heroes. There hasn't been an attack in 8 years and now the defenders have become the bad guys.
TheOtherView 2 years ago
@TheOtherView
Torturers are not defenders. I'm in the military and I would rather die than have my country resort to torture. Why dont you consider the men and women in Iraq and Afghanistan trying to HELP the people there heroes. CIA is not heroes bro.
TheMetalstorm22 1 year ago
GITMO detainee's should be waterboarded - oh wait the dems don't believe in waterboarding. O.K. so lets lock them in a room with Pelosi for 8 hours - naw that is cruel and unusual punishment. Lets settle on listening to Obama's speeches. Didn't Obama give the queen an Ipod with all his speeches? Was he trying to get information from her?
Better yet lets lock them in a room with Pelosi, Reed, Frank and Dodd, that will get a confession faster than anything else will.
dkkght46 2 years ago
how about this: make them like the west and make them allies.
that's what they did to the nazis in WWII and it worked.
thegodlessatheist 2 years ago
Waterboarding saves lives, and it's good for the environment too.
jbranstetter04 2 years ago
Troll.
JesseLH88 2 years ago
Cricket Cricket
dinobrya 2 years ago
I will clarify my comment. Waterboarding gets rid of the Jihad scum, thereby cleansing the earth, which is good for the environment.
And to the dork below me. I am not a troll now, nor have I ever been a troll.
jbranstetter04 2 years ago
no and... wait, what?
thegodlessatheist 2 years ago
no and...wait, what? what?
jbranstetter04 2 years ago
how is watterboarding good for the environment
thegodlessatheist 2 years ago
I already explained it above. But I might add that when we waterboard them and uncover their plan to nuke a city, then that is good for the environment, is it not?
jbranstetter04 2 years ago
only one problem. No true useful information has been obtained under waterboarding. In fact, only WRONG information has been obtained and you went into iraq.
There has never been a situation that necessitated Jack Bower. You are buying into bush and cheney's lies.
thegodlessatheist 2 years ago
I don't buy into Bush's and Cheney's "lies", they just happen to believe the same things that I do; we all three have common sense.
We don't know exactly what information they obtained from the waterboarding because Obama will not declassify that information.
jbranstetter04 2 years ago
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I just wish all these pro-torture goons would cut the bullshit and say what they really mean.
For them it is not a case of torturing prisoners for information.
It is all about exacting revenge.
Silberdachs 2 years ago 2
Torture is not needed drugs exist that will break all defenses and precipitate all information being forthcoming in questioning . These torture technics are to show the world that this administration is above the law. These are egotistic,hubris filled, power hungry, demigods who feel their feces smell of roses. This administration was not wrong to attack our enemies but torture is not us and is the work of pure evil.
jobedied 2 years ago 2
bush and cheeney broke the law secretly to keep US SAFE
I know obama wants to prove he is the anti bush
however I say obama should do the exact same thing that the bush adminstration did
this pp have no lovE,compassion and pity for anyone thats is why the feel
nothing is wrong if flying planes into towers and causing fear and chaos all over USA
I SAY TORTURE
obama pls dont be weak be agressive as bush dont feel sorry for this terrorist they want to destroy our country
1bulma1 2 years ago
I can't believe anyone would condone "enhanced interrogation". Obviously, these terrorists are sitting in their caves having debates as to the ethics of flying planes into buildings, and I hear they are feeling bad. (note the sarcasm)
These aren't enemy combatants, these are cowards, and they don't deserve the rights we afford true warriors. Soldiers tend to have mutual respect for one another, even across borders. These aren't soldiers.
powerfulpup 2 years ago
Oh, boo hoo! Save us--protect us--prevent another 9/11. But whatever you do, be politically correct. We would not want to offend any terrorist who, by the way, wouldn't hesitate for a second to torture, rape, decapitate, and/or blow up your sorry ass just for the hell of it. Now it will take the next president years to undo the thoughtless, naive, destructive, and completely moronic actions of this one. Barry--we hardly knew ye!
beaglenuts55 2 years ago 2
I agree with you, and I support the use of real torture. Not the fancy almost politically correct effeminate method they used.
And go after their family to torture them in front of the captured high ranking Al Qaeda officers. When you are done with torturing somebody, put a bullet in their head and dump them in a pit.
tommysch 2 years ago
this is fucken bullshit these guys are fucken terrorist this president is a dumbass why is he stopping torturing heck if they had captured you they would of cut your head off god knows what they would do stupid president
jinnjizz 2 years ago 2
What the hell does Obama mean he's not going to prosecute???!!!!!! He's supposed to be separate from the Justice Dept. If he is speaking on behalf of the justice Dept, He's acting illegally and highly inappopriate! Is torture a crime or isn't it? If it is, it needs to be prosecuted? What's next allowing some people to rape, but not others? Allowing some people to murder, but not others? Obama's just a moderate republican!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12ddl 2 years ago
Torturing civilians or real POWs (soldiers from a real army) is a crime. Al Qaeda operatives are ALL fair game.
tommysch 2 years ago
So if you torture people you may THINK are Al Qaeda that's okay too?
Ian7570 2 years ago
Im not saying that they should torture every taxi driver in Iraq, just high ranking bitches. When they have a positive ID.
tommysch 2 years ago
Note to Cenk....
The Obama adm. do know something that you obvious don't see. They know they don't give a damn what anyone thinks!!
Telcontar1962 2 years ago
Personally I think the CIA has threatened Obama and his family if he were to pursue a Bush War Crimes investigation. The CIA is dirty, look who used to run it, Bush Sr.. Why else would Obama make a 180 degree turn on his stance to prosecute war crimes? Someone has gotten to him, and given him an ultimatum. Just like JFK tried to change things, look what happened to him! Our government is being run by people like the Bilbderberger Group which is hidden from the media on purpose, We are screwed.
JOHNINCOLUMBUS 2 years ago 2
Following Orders is not a legal defense, recall the Nuremberg trials of the Nazis.
moonchair761 2 years ago
But torturing in an effeminate way some Al Qaeda operatives is totally fine. The few nazis that were found guilty participated is the extermination of millions of innocent civilians... Dont try to make silly comparison.
tommysch 2 years ago
'torturing in an effiminate way?" This kind of sentence formulation makes it obvious the right wing is more desperate than we thought. When Pol Pot perpetrated genocide in Cambodia he employed children as guards, murderers and torturers. Is that to say he authorized 'childish genocide'? What escapes your dim attention is the fact that any kind of torture is reprehensible, that civilized societies find it abhorrent and that it is embraced by thugs and monsters and terrorists.
molloyx 2 years ago
if it wasnt for CACI and other companys like that we wouldnt have the intel to prevent future attacks
mswanson223 3 years ago
Thing is, the "vetting process" gets into a lot of details that could not be so easily learned and documented in other ways.
Final pick .. a cleanup guy with a new broom, and a bunch of great files showing him where to look.
PlayT0E 3 years ago
Just like you Cenk..............
I'm against torture.
Instead, we should just fly airplanes into three of the biggest mosques in...[insert Arab country here].
Then maby we can call the game over.
bobbytiger 3 years ago
google 'ONE WORLD ORDER' and it will tell you everything ..this is a dliberate momney problem. its created by greedy americans that are too fuckin stupid to be greedy without bfucing up the vwhole world. america and great britian started this 'global' shit to create the new world order where we are all dependant slaves. the crich eat the poor. billionaires bailing out billionaires! a created crisis! they dont bail out the poor! there is no crisis! wake up america!!!!!!!!
phsyco348 3 years ago
American officers were paying local gangsters money to bring in bodies
America has even locked up children in Gitmo!
An American woman who won a lawsuit against her local township was charged by that same township for being a "Paper Terrorist" (felony D - mandatory time Patriot Act), when she tried to exercise her judgment against the twp
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
anybody that waterboarded should be waterboarded themselves
oldhacks 3 years ago 2
America deserves the government they have!
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
no we dont, america was the first liberal country and the first to make a constitution.
Xdanith 3 years ago
If America is unable to demand their leaders submit to the law like everyone else, then they deserve the loss of their liberty & money!
sugarpuddin88 3 years ago
And if someones off their rocker for preaching the constitution, sound money, and less government.... wow.... so you want fascism? you would like the government in your life?? you dont like privacy???
Support Obama...LOL...Robert Gates...Rohm Emmanuel...
i never thought id quote pure evil like this, "We must now face the harsh truth that the objectives of communism are being steadily advanced because many of us do not recognize the means used to advance them." J Edgar Hoover. IE, LIBERALS!
toshzpelta 3 years ago
Yea you're completely off your rocker... You'd rather vote for a puppet because he's...black? charismatic? Go ahead and vote with the populace, we all know the masses are dumb as hell anyways.
OBAMA!!! CHAAANGE!!!!
you're a damn joke... your vote would have been better off going to McCain, but im sure you have no idea why.
Words are cheap as all hell, and its people like you that make me entertain the idea of a test before you go into the voting booth as not such a bad one..
toshzpelta 3 years ago
Your a useless piece of society so dont act like you know shit, if u voted mc cain, three words : suck my dick. You lost cause mc cain sucked, dont make excuses "oh the masses, theyre evil they voted the black guy" The mass population knows whats good for them, hows that for democracy fucking loser.
Xdanith 3 years ago
You're a retard. How about you read something before commenting, hmm?
I voted Paul, bitch.
toshzpelta 3 years ago
you can vote for your mom for all i care we won cause we had actual plans for government.
Xdanith 3 years ago
Like i said you're fucking retarded... do you read what you type before you press the 'postcomment' button???
toshzpelta 3 years ago
no and stop responding.
Xdanith 3 years ago
You do realize, in essence, that you just called yourself retarded? LOL yeah ok i'll stop responding now...
toshzpelta 3 years ago 3
i know. his ideas of constitutional government, protecting civil liberties and keeping to sound money principals are just ridiculous
gusseffenjr 3 years ago
Hopefully leading doesn't mean he's gonna be the new head of the CIA, at least that's what I'm hoping.
Swordsquire 3 years ago
obama just did a sex change on change
MrRightAllTime 3 years ago
"What's wrong with torture?"
Everything...How would you like to be torture without even being proven innocent or guilty? What if you were innocent, how would you like to see your people being torture around you. It's a scary and upsetting place to be. It's inhuman and it's not so far off Hitler's to-do-list when he was around. America can fall in the wrong hands too, and it has.
mystic89 3 years ago 2
The topic of torture maybe only appeals to a select few who get the point, but how about the masses?
Lets not forget how popular that Jack Bauer "24"-crap had been with many - a television series that is basically permanent propaganda-cum-glorification for torture disguised as family entertainment.
Why do people not shove this series up the author´s a**?
Also there still is the death "penalty" (=legalized murder) in several of the States - also supported by not exactly very few people!
flyingmagiccarpet 3 years ago
Brennan has backed out of being considered for this pick. He said that there are too many accusations swirling around him and that this is too important of a position to have any distractions. So whether or not what was said about him is true, it's certainly respectable that he'd pull himself out for the better of the country.
TokyoNiGHTS1 3 years ago
What is wrong with torture? Lt. Col. West saved lives with torture, it works.
Ericjpomeroy 3 years ago
Wow! Allen West is a neeeeeeeegroh!
I did not see that coming. Suddenly the situation was legitimized.
YawnGod 3 years ago
you got a problem with black people you filthy Portuguese, and bytheway its Negros not negroh ..what an idiot ..
MuslimByChoice 3 years ago
I'm not Portuguese, I'm American.
Last time I checked, Detroit wasn't located in Europe...but I was.
Stay in school, son.
YawnGod 3 years ago
Tell that to yourself stay in school and hope this racism would disappear, racist with low iq
GayByNature 3 years ago
That is horrible. :(
americanmuslimgirl 3 years ago
Excellent Call Cenk! It really is messed up when Obama promises all this "Change We Need" only to even consider the such shady, undignified people from the Bush Admin into his Administration. He's got to quit with the crowd pleasing already and make some honorable choices here. Reward the people who do the right thing, condemn those who are wrong. We desperately need NEW direction with NEW people. That is the only way.
MrDeppness 3 years ago
A true patriot wouldnt be bitching about the president elect and complaining about the country. So if because I dont, that makes me unpatriotic well so be it. First off I said that in reference to the racist who call Obama a monkey which is a sad attempt to be racist due to he is black and I said simply and truthfuly If you dont like it MOVE. Sorry hun but I'm not the conformist, I voted for the guy thats different and offered change you on the other hand remain clueless. :)
BlackMambakins 3 years ago
You voted for The lesser of 2 evils
and that is the right thing to do
but now we need to force this candidate to bring
all the good changes for America, we cannot close our eyes again.
bananito2 3 years ago
Even if the he wasnt the right choice for the country??? You make no sense and think being a patriot is waving your american flag on the back of your Ford F150. Who did i vote for? I voted for the guy who wants to ABOLISH THE CIA, the FED, and restore the Gold Standard...Technically i voted for a lot more change than you did, "hun". And i agree with you on the racist thing, but you're dead wrong: a true patriot would bitch so much it would force real change.
toshzpelta 3 years ago
the next time obanana gives a speech be sure to bring some banananas, after the speech throw him a banana just don't hit him with the banana or you will get fuck by the fbi. you will be all over the news for real. also don't forget to yell white power and white pride,
MrRightAllTime 3 years ago
as long as they keep usa safe im all for anything torture those terrorist
thelastemperor909 3 years ago
I voted for obama but i don't think change is coming, there are too many lobbyists and whatnot. I do think with obama we will see slightly lower amounts of extreme stupidity in the government.... :)
jsg103 3 years ago
obama will NOT bring change.
the lobby groups, that supported his campaign, will start cashing in.
democrat or republican, doesnt matter...
the "democratic system" as it is in the states, wont allow "change" to happen.
hes chosen a confirmed zionist, as chief of staff (to keep AIPAC happy)...the clintons r bk, and now this...
sting695 3 years ago
MrTightAllTime *as per your boyfriend said it was everytime he bent ya over, hence your id* Whats all the talk about the bananas?... this is a comment space not a place for your gay fantasies...lol So anywho, get used to President Obama, like it or not hes your president & if your not happy... MOVE! perferably some gay planet since you have some banana fetish & thats just ungodly and not good for the kids to read let alone watch. MrTight takes a banana in the tail pipe. ooo you so nasty LOL :)
BlackMambakins 3 years ago
You know thats what all supporters of this corrupt government say... "if your not happy... MOVE!"
Be realistic...people have families, businesses, jobs, responsibilities. If i cared nothing for my fellow Americans i would leave...but i hope to God nobody would ever be that selfish.
A true patriot wouldnt leave...if we had done that during the American Revolution we would be talking with a british accent...
you're just a conformist, blackmambakins.
toshzpelta 3 years ago
Yeah no one wants to take responsibility
Is that stupid passive attitude that let the rats climb to the top and become the power elite group of thugs stealing americans
It seems that we need another revolution and no more passive apathic people, we need to wake up
bananito2 3 years ago
Richard Clarke would be an awesome pick.
duckinmypants 3 years ago
bush is a better person than obama, color people didn't vote for bush but bush had more color people in his cabinet, obama put all the clinton whites in his cabinet, obama is nothing but a house nigger, next rally throw a bananaa at obanananaan
MrRightAllTime 3 years ago
dumb shit.
josh22922 3 years ago
get your head out of your ass or your mama's pussy you stupid fucking whore job. you know damn well bush is a way better person than obama or obananana, really the next time obanana talks throw him a bananan, monkeys love bananana
MrRightAllTime 3 years ago
wow "throw a banana at the monkey"......typical republican, nascar watching, uncle fucking, sister licking, goat humping, nazi saluting, trailer trash fucking drunk.........get a life queer. because if you are the cross section of the GOP, you are a closet homo or a pedophile.
crowdaddy13 3 years ago 3
Sorry to say it, but "of courrrrrrse!"
Obama has always operated this way, making compromises instead of doing the right thing.
Electing Obama is a great blow against racism and better than having another outright sociopath, but not by much.
TheGiantRobot 3 years ago
The sick thing is that Psychologists Work with the CIA, helping them improve their "Interrogation" Techniques. Truly twisted.
MEXICANCONGRESSOCT10 3 years ago 3
Waterboarding is not torture. It's a great way to get terrorists to tell about their plans to kill people.
If it prevents terrorist attacks, I say do it, for the people that are against it, maybe you'll be the next victim of a terrorist attack, that's poetic justice.
asliberalastheycome 3 years ago
No, torture is not a great way to get terrorists to tell about their plans to kill people. You watch too much '24'.
Torture IS a great way to get terrorists (or innocent people who've been falsely accused) to give FALSE information just so they can stop being tortured. If someone tortured you long enough you'd make stuff up too. Why not?
Encyclopeteia 3 years ago 6
Waterboarding terrorists is a great way to get them to talk. They'll give correct information because if they don't they get waterboarded again.
If it saves people from being killed, I saw waterboard them, their scumbags anyways and deserve much, much worst.
asliberalastheycome 3 years ago
Wrong: They'll talk and give INCORRECT information because it stops the torture AND they don't have to give their plot away.
Apparently you haven't done much research on this issue outside of watching 24.
Encyclopeteia 3 years ago 5
Obama, I know you are trying to seem moderate but this is the wrong way of doing it.
qanazir 3 years ago 2
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I'm in favor of torturing terrorists, they deserve it more than anybody.
asliberalastheycome 3 years ago
-John Brennan.
-Rahm Israel Emanuel.
-Hillary Clinton.
-Dennis Ross.
-Timothy Geithner.
-Eric Holder.
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN??? MY ASS...
godlesspatriot 3 years ago 3
"Do you know who else supports Torture and does Torture whenever they capture prisoners"
Yet people on the left don't seem to want to condemn Al-queda as quickly or as harshly as when they do it. They cut off the heads of journalist and kill aid workes and not one f'n peep comes out of the liberal media or condemnation whatsoever but when Bush does it or is accused of doing it then he becomes the anti-christ.
timbosforporn 3 years ago
I agree with Cenk and all the other Liberals here!
*** Stop torturing Al-Qaeda! ***
Al-Qaeda has rights!
We Liberals will defend the rights of Al-Qaeda against the evil Republicans who want to torture them!
I plead to all the YouTube Liberals, write your Congressman and demand that Al-Qaeda be released!
The Republicans are trampling on the rights of Al-Qaeda given to them by our Constitution!
t3chnbabble 3 years ago
If you support torture then your no better than the people you want to torture.
Right Wingers and Islamic fundamentalists have alot more in common with each other than either would like to admit... Scary.
sonyavsystem 3 years ago
Wrong...
That's like saying I'm wrong for wanting to KILL the enemy who wants to KILL me.
Al-Qaeda wants to kill us...so we kill them.
Al-Qaeda wants to torture us...so we torture them.
It's a quid pro quo
Unlike the Liberals here, I have no sympathy or respect for Al-Qaeda.
t3chnbabble 3 years ago
Flawless logic..
So if al Qaeda rapes and murders 15 year old girls then by t3chnabbale argues that we should too!
People like t3chnabble just dont get it. America is superior to the al Qaeda's of the world; in ideas, in principles, in morals, we rise above the filth and blaze a trail of righteousness and human decency.
sonyavsystem 3 years ago 4
There are no 15 year old girls in Al-Qaeda...
If Al-Qaeda wants to kill ME...I kill them.
If Al-Qaeda wants to torture ME...I torture them.
It's not flawed logic.
Why do Liberals believe that showing compassion to an enemy who believes that his God wants him to kill you...is going to work??
You cannot bargain with and you cannot find common ground with an enemy like that...you will not sway them.
Your compassion for them means nothing to what they stand for.
Kill them.
t3chnbabble 3 years ago
You have to have evidence on them to hold them, just as you would for any criminal. You cannot torture them because it is against basic human rights. I'm sorry you feel that america should act like a terrorist nation. Thankfully your beliefs are a generational thing.
sicklesickle 3 years ago
Your wrong.
You argue that if al Qaeda wants to kill you then you kill them, that if al Qaeda wants to torture you then you torture them...
So continue your train of thought bud. If al Qaeda wants to rape and kill your 15 year old daughter, then your logic demands that we in turn rape and kill the daughter of an al Qeda operative. And the madness continues until at the end of the day you are no better than the people you claim to hate!
Were better than the filth of the world. PERIOD.
sonyavsystem 3 years ago 2
sonyavsystem,
You cannot possibly be that ignorant...can you?
In your scenario, If Al-Qaeda rapes and kills a 15 year old girl...the retaliation is not to rape and kill another innocent girl...that makes no sense.
The retaliation is to RAPE (with a bat) and kill the Al-Qaeda perpetrator....and NOT an innocent person.
Get it now??
t3chnbabble 3 years ago
you're right, there are no 15 year old girls in al Qaeda. They keep strapping bombs to them and sending them running into marketplaces.
Which sure convinces me that their cause is just, you betcha!
I have no idea why muslims don't get rid of al Qaeda themselves. Al Qaeda kills muslims better than the US military does.
GretchenDawntreader 3 years ago
"An eye for an eye Makes the whole world blind"
Mahatma Gandhi
To say There are no 15 year old girls in Al-Qaeda is to ignore the point, the point is just because our enemies do it doesn't give us the right to do it. Viloence is the easy way out
ClearlyDamnDecent 3 years ago 3
"Why do Liberals believe that showing compassion to an enemy who believes that his God wants him to kill you...is going to work??"
Because like every moderate Muslim will tell you that is not what the Quran teaches.
Why do republicans who claim they love Jesus the most not understand his core teachings?
infinit888 3 years ago 4
infinit888,
First, I am an Atheist.
Second, You are foolish to think that you can convince him that his interpretation of the Quran is wrong...and yours is right.
There is no swaying their beliefs.
t3chnbabble 3 years ago
"infinit888,
First, I am an Atheist."
Wow... you're the first atheist I've heard of in my lifetime that thinks killing someone preemptively is justified.
You of all people should know that life is the most valuable thing there is because it is finite.
"You are foolish to think that you can convince him that his interpretation of the Quran is wrong...and yours is right."
Did I ever claim the contrary?
infinit888 3 years ago
i really feel for you your missing out on a wonderful gift and all you have to do is except.
dbhans1234 3 years ago
"i really feel for you your missing out on a wonderful gift and all you have to do is except."
And what gift would that be? Psychosis?
I don't accept 'gifts' from imaginary celestial dictators whose moral values are inferior to mine and every other person I know.
I think you're missing out on reality, the only thing we are certain to possess.
infinit888 3 years ago
I quite agree - We should certainly defend ourselves, but as an example, the heinous slaughter WE have perpetrated in Iraq should have been well beneath us. The torture issue is just an extension of the same mentality - it's the same thing we claim is wrong with people like Hussein. Hypocrisy at its finest.
l0gically 3 years ago 4
Waterboarding is not torture. Saddam's torture was much worst.
asliberalastheycome 3 years ago
Spoken like a true jack-ass who's never been waterboarded (or never known anyone who's been waterboarded).
Encyclopeteia 3 years ago 2
I agree with Cenk and all the other Liberals here!
*** Stop torturing Al-Qaeda! ***
Al-Qaeda has rights!
We Liberals will defend the rights of Al-Qaeda against the evil Republicans who want to torture them!
I plead to all the YouTube Liberals, write your Congressman and demand that Al-Qaeda be released!
The Republicans are trampling on the rights of Al-Qaeda given to them by our Constitution!
t3chnbabble 3 years ago
Torture is for al Qaeda type scum. I rise above that mess.
sonyavsystem 3 years ago
Those who didnt see that change wasnt coming just weren't paying attention.
Granted he conned me too early on, but I eventually saw through the facade a few months before the primaries were over.
Remember, ALOT of people voted AGAINST JOHN MCCAIN, not for Obama.
sonyavsystem 3 years ago
i'm definately one of those people. I chose the lesser of 2 evils. When doing that, you are still choosing evil. I don't really believe that Obama will bring about change, I'm so sick of the 2 party system. I would have voted for Cynthia McKinney. Although I do believe that anybody who ascends that high in the political ladder, to the level of running for president, they are all somehow corrupt, greedy and guilty. Its just not possible for a good person to run for president
jumar1281 3 years ago
Obama is not blowing my hair back. From what it looks like, he is marching lock step with the DEMOCRATIC PARTY. Hiring Hillary Clinton, the DARLING of the party, is an example. Daschle too. Both had voted for this war.
Obama, you need to do better than this.
katey1dog 3 years ago
once again Cenk our opinions match perfectly, im not sure what Obama is up to at the moment but Brennen? really? Please Obama dont try to be the middle man to much it will just blow up in your face. Im not relgious but I agree with a bible phrase: be hot or cold but do not be lukewarm
bodah44 3 years ago
Anytime I see something I don't like going on in politics I speak my mind at the congressional hearings for the state, because they are open to the public in my state.
For me, prayer is the ultimate weapon. You may not believe in any Gods, but I intend on keeping that prayer alive. To me, that is the most useful thing I can do....
freshestartist 3 years ago
The fact is that the guy represents the CIA faction openly supporting Obama now ergo he is Obama's "reach across the aisle" pick. Obama is mostly just doing what he did as president of the Harvard Law Review, i.e. making lemonade out of lemons. The CIA has always done such evil stuff and always will tho not openly. Its a revolving door agency for NSA layoffs and mecenary espionage terrorists. Looks like Obama is respecting the status quo in US "diplomatic" relations which takes decades 2 change.
oldParasiteSingle 3 years ago
Yeah, there is big concerns that Obama is going to be a puppet for the whole mindset of "America deserve's respect" in it's world views instead of giving it. Hence he will carry out several of the policies of the Bush administration.
He will most likely improve domestic US policty and improve the country, but in the terms of foreign policy... things don't like like much is changing.
He's still best friends with Israel. Needs to look at both sides of conflict before judging.
TechyArab 3 years ago
Obama's choice so far to fill his cabinet has left me puzzled to say the least. But on the other hand, what could the wrong people being in office possibly do to make matters worse than what Bush's administration has done? Nuke someone? Start WWII?
Boomer1949 3 years ago
I'd say Obama is another New World Order puppet. Sorry, guys..
LibertyUPR 3 years ago
You might be right. I'm willing to see how things play out, but his selections thus far mostly point in that direction.
More of the same, but with a prettier face and better oratory. Could be more dangerous than Bush, quite frankly.
Amy31415 3 years ago
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Why is EVERYONE attacking Obama?? Bush fucked up the U.S. before the 2004 election; yet everyone said we will give him six months to get us out of this mess. It has been a little more than six months and Bush has just made it worse but is still here. Yet before Obama gets into office he is already being slaughtered. And on what basis?? The people who voted for bush are all of a sudden all-knowing in the political realm?? This prejudgment should have been used 4 or better yet 8 years ago.
khargrove3 3 years ago
Well no shit..what will it take for you Democrats to realize Obama is not going to change a single thing from the Bush policy??
bigeffendeal 3 years ago
What will it take for you republicans to shut up and let things play out like you did with bush. why is it you want to complain now but while bush was president i heard none of this.
khargrove3 3 years ago
khargrove, I am not a Republican. I had plenty of smack to talk about Bush and co.
The problem is that most people are tied into the false left vs right fight. It is the same as fake wrestling.
Remember both Obama and McCain voted for the Wall St bail out. Neither the Dems nor the GOP will end the illegal wars based on lies.
Neither will bring back our Bill of Rights.
I wish Obama was the JFK,RFK,MLK he pretends to be.
bigeffendeal 3 years ago 3
I just don't believe that we can PRE-judge Obama. How many other presidents were pre-judged like this. People are just waiting for Obama, no hoping Obama messes up so they can jump on his case. If this same judgment was used 8 years ago, I don't think we would be in the situation that america is currently in.
khargrove3 3 years ago
khargrove,I dont want to pre-judge Obama nor do I hope he screws up. I take no pleasure raining on the singing and dancing for the new Pres elect. Dems missed their chance at integrity by shunning Kucinich, the GOP missed their chance for the same with Ron Paul. I hope I am wrong about Obama, we will see.
bigeffendeal 3 years ago
....why he would do this?
"Check the diagonal, doesn't that make it three in row"
----NO CHANGE-----EOF
UnderseaCaveman 3 years ago
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bush is a better person than obama, color people didn't vote for bush but bush had more color people in his cabinet, obama put all the clinton whites in his cabinet, obama is nothing but a house nigger, next rally throw a bananaa at obanananaan
MrRightAllTime 3 years ago
and who are you to judge someone who you don't know. You don't know bush, you don't know obama. I do know that they are both better people then you.
khargrove3 3 years ago
After watching the way President-Elect Obama put together his campaign and made it work I for one am willing to watch and see if he uses the same ability to judge people and their abilities for his Cabinet. He could have taken the easy way and picked Senator Clinton for V.P. but he chose the candidate he believed would be the best for the country he could pick the most popular choices for his Cabinet or he can pick the people he believes will get the job done, personally I want the job done.
Ender1zero1 3 years ago
You know who else like to drink water Al-Qaeda, out in the desert they love water.
timg455 3 years ago
That's not entirely true but I don't think it was ever publicly sanctioned policy before.
megamarsvin 3 years ago
If only we had a proportional representation system..
sonyavsystem 3 years ago
I can't really knock Obama for supporting torture but I can knock liberals who wish to turn the other way when there guy is doing the torture while Bush couldn't say boo to them during his presidency. At least this turk guy isn't being hypocritical or anything and bashing everyone equally.
timbosforporn 3 years ago
I never been a strong proponent of torture but at the same time I can see how there could be situations where it would be affective in getting critical info from a detainnee. I know it sounds cruel and all but war is cruel and these people have sworn to kill every American in sight so we have to use whatever way needed to save lives.
timbosforporn 3 years ago
Can someone please tell me how in the hell people are already knocking obama before he has done anything?? You people gave bush 7 years and you won't even give obama one day before you start knocking him.
khargrove3 3 years ago
Well he has done something by making that guy a top candidate.
timg455 3 years ago 2
he hasn't even made the decision yet. People were saying that Hillary Clinton was a top candidate for vice president that didn't happen. Do you know how many "top candidates" Barack Obama has. Not meaning to sound like an asshole but I hate how people are so quick to judge Obama but let Bush slide for years.
khargrove3 3 years ago
idk if i like whats happening. this center right bullshit is annoying. we are no longer "cente-right" people!! why else would he do this? i really dont know enough about that guy to really make a judgement on him but i dont like what im hearing in this video.
david3188col 3 years ago 2
I am not an Obama supporter at all. I hope that they use torture, criminals do NOT have the same rights as a US citizen.
brewerfan1993 3 years ago
Human rights are universal, not American.
It's the Geneva Convention and the UN Charter -- which, for the rest of the world, is above the United States -- that define human rights for all human beings, not just Americans.
ktchong 3 years ago 6
I'll believe it when I see Obama in front of the press announcing his cabinets...but do ppl actually believe the CIA is an agent of human rights and rule of law? The CIA was created to do criminal activities the tax payers and American gov't do not need 2 know or defend in the public eye.
We are naive if we think Obama will bring any immediate Progressive changes. I'm surprised Obama hasn't been rumored 2 be appointing ppl who had the guts 2 fight Bush, like Richard Clarke.
hippieCy08 3 years ago
Cenk, you've been supporting Obama for quite some time now. I knew to get off the bandwagon a long time ago. Are you surprised that there's absolutely no change coming at all?
grapplerke 3 years ago
There were only 2 change candidates in this election; Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul.
Obama supports keeping Joe Lieberman as chairman of the Department of Homeland Security.
Now this.
Whats next? Dick Cheney as secretary of DOD?
sonyavsystem 3 years ago
Don't forget Mike Gravel. I like his policies more than Kucinich's.
grapplerke 3 years ago
Right. Gravel.
sonyavsystem 3 years ago
great idea on Mr. Clark... he really did get things right...
8intimation8 3 years ago
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Pre-impeach the chimp.
patsagainstrats 3 years ago
Obama, if you're listening, be fucking careful. Don't believe the conservative hype that we're a bunch of sheep who voted for you without knowing anything. We voted for you because we trusted you to bring change. If you want a second term, follow what you said: "We will not torture."
eirefrance 3 years ago 4
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"We voted for you because we trusted you to bring change."
Yeah, and you know what you got? You got nothing but POCKET change, chump. And I seriously doubt
GoldsteinsBook 3 years ago
that Obama has nothing better to do than "listen" to you or this guy.
GoldsteinsBook 3 years ago
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IMPEACH OBAMA!!!
FoShizzle951 3 years ago
Moron.
darealdjnutz 3 years ago
Idiot. Let me guess....You're a Bush supporter, huh?
-AnonAzazel
axelfear 3 years ago
Prison is torture. It's just justified torture by the ruling class for not following the ruling class rules.
lukewarmstorm 3 years ago
Start the impeachment.
Richardgwm 3 years ago
Obama will probably appoint Carl Rove next!
Change we can believe in!
natebooce 3 years ago 2
Wait, you are saying that Obama is the same as all the other evil Republicrats? Big shocker! Change my ass. Torture and war with Iran, here we come.
kathicII 3 years ago 2
It's already begun, all the Ozombies will start waking up and realize they wasted their vote on another republicrat.
lestliness 3 years ago 2
Head of the CIA, what do you expect of someone who is to work in such a position?
At any rate, while I was an Obama supporter throughout the election and have voted for him, the more time passes the more I see that Obama is going to be the same shit with a different name. It is my fault for being naive enough to believe he was somehow going to be different, I guess.
Elmaln 3 years ago 4
i kina agree but he did not even start lets give him 1 year before judging him
generaldust 3 years ago 2
> At any rate, while I was an Obama supporter throughout the election and have voted for him, the more time passes the more I see that Obama is going to be the same shit with a different name. It is my fault for being naive enough to believe he was somehow going to be different, I guess.
You fell for the duopoly. Your vote never counted.
If you want to have effective influence, get involved with some ground-level watchdog organization at the congress level.
sy1234 3 years ago 2
Of course! He is the same shit. people, you need to wake up to the NWO rule. It does not mattter if you vote republican or democrat, both parties obey the same rulers. the elitist bankers control the world. They make it seem like you only have 2 options, but people did not want to see past the lies they fed them; people want seconds, thirds and so on. Wake up people, and see who are really in control. They have you fighting each other, dividing and conquering.
Idtelos 3 years ago
Obama voted for warrantless wiretapping too
lufo530 3 years ago 5
That's why I like Cenk, whether I agree with his views or not, he always calls it the way he sees it and lets us know why. I also have to say that no public official will ever be able to please everybody, and even those who support them will a disagreement about the choices they make. I just truly pray that Obama is making as many right decisions as he possibly can to help better us. God Bless....
freshestartist 3 years ago 4
richard clark was appointed originally by Reagan isn't that republican enough
g13iceman 3 years ago
i agree with cenk
hellshade2 3 years ago 3
i dont like mccain,
but does anyone notice..?
wheres mccain, whats he doing right now.
hhheeehhhh hhhehhh
godzillaislarge 3 years ago
This might be brilliant. John Brennan has all the shady international secrets of the last administration. Intimate knowledge of those moves can definitely help clean up the mess.
enviops 3 years ago
Then it'd make more sense to keep him as a pet in the CIA, not the head of it.
rokstrnisa 3 years ago
I understand some of the concerns over certain Cabinet choices, but I'm going to hold off on making any judgements until I see them in action. Regardless of their individual histories, this will be Obama's administration, and the credit or blame for how they perform will ultimately fall on the President's shoulders. He's given me a real sense of hope and optimism so far; with two months before he's even been sworn in, it's a bit too soon for us to be throwing him under the bus.
ScoundrelLB 3 years ago
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The change we need.
ArgueEverything 3 years ago 2
I have been so disappointed with Obamas appointments and choices he is considering for his administration . By the choices he has made so far I can safely say that "change we can believe in" was nothing but a slogan and a way to garner votes
near10 3 years ago
I think you are missing the point! I think Obama is making the right moves! We all speculated about obamas decisions during the campaign and it turned out he was the smartest guy in the room! I think he needs to keep some of the "wolfs" around at the same time extending the olive branch of peace to the rest of the world! I am anti war but i am also common sense, there are alot of people who dont like us as a result of the last 8 years!
monsterminds2 3 years ago
I completley agree with Cenk. Was horrified myself to learn this.
Mr. Obama this is NOT why you were elected.
avitiltal 3 years ago
I don't understand this, how do you promise change and then bring in the SAME old set of people to work with you