So, riddle me this ... Barry has been screaming bout Bush and him sending troops overseas and how we need them back, then Osma gets wacked and Barry is taking the credit for it? And now he's the greatest Pres ever? He didn't even want the troops over there! But he sure is willing to take the credit for this. Also, there is a rumor that OBL actually died in 2001 - know anything about that? Sites to investigate, etc.?
@77Horselady, Yes, we are to believe, according to the LATimes, that if wasn't for the keadership of Obama, OBL would never have been found. Judging by the photo I saw, it's not OBL. He had a very long thin face and a grey beard-the guy they shot has a short fat face, and his beard was still jet black.
Nothing wrong with knowing the truth, but even if it was proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that Obama isn't qualified, nothing would be done. NOTHING. Besides, this doesn't advance the ball toward the goal, which is to reverse 100 years of assaults to the Constitution, and our society.
@jwwm2, So, you believe that the way "to reverse 100 years of assaults to the Constitution, and our society", is to ignore Obama's lack of eligibility, the very man that is leading the largest the attack on the Constitution?
Have you been to some of these other sites and listened to the irrational, out and out stupidity of the people regarding Barry's birth certificate? The less leg they have to stand on, the uglier they get. Yelling "racist" and numerous other expletives that have to be flagged off. Their ignorace is truly stunning to me -- just amazing. And the TOTAL resistance of accepting the truth about this that has proof after proof behind it! They wld rather die than admit they are wrong!
@Butterfly1Queen, Oh yes, I get that here too. Most of them are still convinced OJ was innocent too or they're still complaining about Al Gore losing the election or all the money Bush wasted. They are totally unaware of all the money Obama has wasted. It's pretty sad when you think about it.
@Bigone5555J Did you know Obama spent MORE in his first SIX MONTHS in office than ALL our former Presidents PUT TOGETHER??? Truth. Hubby, Alex Jones, and several others crunched the numbers. Appalling -- truly appalling!
@Butterfly1Queen, Yes, after claiming he would cut the debt in half by the end of his first term, he tripled the national debt, in his first two years.
@Bigone5555J And yet so many people still stand by this idiot! I wonder -- and I mean truly wonder -- why someone hasn't attempted to take him out yet. I didn't think we'd make it this long without somebody pulling something like that -- not that I wish that on him understand -- it's just that assisination attempts have been made on much better Presidents than this con artist! Soetoro hasn't filled ANY of his promises that he made -- former Pres have at least filled a *few* of theirs!
@Bigone5555J - So with the clear-cut evidence of this supposed, "birth certificate", being made widely publicly available, the question now is, what are we doing about this? Who has contacted their Congressman/women and Senators? What are the results? Are we going to demand an official investigation be completed, or do we just sit back and whine about this? Anyone?
@JohnQuincyAdams1, I believe the only thing that would work is a march on Washington. Every Congressman is fully aware of this issue, and they have all refused to admit there is anything wrong. The Courts refuse to hear any case about Obama's ineligibility, claiming no one has the legal standing to bring suit. The Military has even chosen to ignore the issue, knowing that their Commander in Chief is a usurper, they jailed LtC Laken. The MSM has been involved in the cover-up since day one.
@JohnQuincyAdams1, Just yesterday, I read an article about Bobby Jindal. He was born 6 months after his parents arrived from India with Green Cards. He has now released his Birth Certificate, and is planning to run for President. Neither of his parents were US citizens when he was born, but, the Article still claims he is a "natural born citizen". I have no doubt he loves this country, and would be a great President, but, he is NOT eligible.
Hey, Bigone555J, why did my response to your response have a "Comment Pending Approval" on it? My first post didn't, and it took FOREVER to reply to your reply. This post has taken forever too. Big Brother monitoring or something? ;-)
@Butterfly1Queen, That's the way my videos are set up. Some of the comments I receive would curl the hair on your toes. Yes, Big Brother is always watching.
@Bigone5555J Probably your best bet, it does make conversations a little hard, though! I keep pounding on my computer thinking it's screwing me up! Patience grasshopper .... !! And yeah, I know they are always watching and listening, hence my "Just kidding Big Brother" remark! After I said that, though, my next post got a "Comment Pending Approval" on it -- flipped me out for a second!
@Butterfly1Queen, The problem is it would never happen. There are too many uninformed voters. Remember Alvin Greene in SC? He won the 2010 Democratic primary and no one knew who he was. Many years ago, one of my state representatives was re-elected, after he died.
@Bigone5555J Too true! I can dream, though! NWO is gonna do what they're gonna do. They re-elected him AFTER he died!!! That's hillarious!!! Stupid, stupid sheep!
@Butterfly1Queen, Yes, the same thing has happened twice in Missouri. In 2009, a small town re-elected their Mayor a month after he died, and in 2000 Democrat Mel Carnahan was elected to the US Senate after he died in a plane crash, three weeks before the election, so they appointed his wife to fill the job.
How did we go from the Certificate," not existing" or "destroyed" to an "Original" long form magically appearing. And even looking at the Whitehouse copy it is clear that some boxes on the form are different shades. I mean common, it is clearly a fake and whoever put it together didn't even do a good job with the digital editing. It is a very sloppy fake. That looks like it was generated in a couple days with little time to prepare it. Physical copy still needs to be authenticated and produced.
@wootuser, Yes, even Abercrombie said that all that was found was a notation in the archives. Just by looking at the Pdf image, without any other special software, there are many problems with this image. There are even spots where there is no text, that can be seen to have been altered. Why did they post such a low resolution file? Even the Pdf that AP put out is nearly 3 times larger. See the top two videos in my favorites section for some shocking info on this image.
Doesn't matter anyway. Nobody can win with this birth certificate information, true, or not. Better to focus on the damage he's doing to American society than to waste time with this.
Obama may be one of the few REAL "African-Americans" in the country! An "African American" is a person of ANY RACE born in Africa that becomes an American Citizen! Obama is one big LIE.
By they way, "African" is not a race; Obama's father was a NEGRO!
@jimbritttn, His age is wrong too. He was 27. Also, "Curiously, on an Aug. 17, 1962, application to extend his visa, Obama Sr. filled in a line asking him to list the names and addresses of children. The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old."
See "Birth certificate conflicts with father's real birthday?" on WND
So the fact that the department of records in Hawaii has sent out thousands of copies of Obama's birth records apparently means nothing to you? This standard record of birth, from the department of public records, is the most requested document ever. Again, thousands of copies have been requested and sent out. And all those thousands of Official Documents are ... apparently ... fake? Is that what you are saying?
As to the paper, likely all the records are now digital, and printed as needed.
@blueboyblue, The Hawaii Health Department did NOT send out thousands of copies of Obama's records. Obama's Attorney flew to Hawaii on Monday April, 25, 2011, and purchased TWO paper copies. Someone at the White House, scanned one of the copies, and then made a Pdf file, that contains a low resolution image, and that image is composed of at least 7 different layers of information, which has lead many experts to believe the image was altered. The paper copies were never shown to the public.
@glennwih, Yes, but, this is only a digital image. We have yet to see anyone come forward with a genuine, early 1960's birth certificate, from the United States, that lists African as a race. There have to be millions of people that were born back then. Why would Obama's be different?
another problem with the long form, as one person I seen on your videos point out before, the race of the COLB of Obama's father is "African," and that same mistake is repeated on the alleged original BC. Africa is a continent, not a race, and in 1961, it should be clearly obvious that anyone with a basic understanding of U.S. history, the race back then would have read "Black/Negro," NOT African. The shear arrogance of these people to repeat the same error that was pointed out before. WOW. SMH.
@Tonloc1986, Yes, most don't realize how serious of an issue that really is, but, all birth certificates must at least meet guidelines, set in Federal Laws that been in place since 1911. If just one letter on this document was changed, it's a forgery-period.
@doc7474, No, It's already there-I just spotted it this morning. You have to blow it up at least 300% to see it. It's very faint, but, it's there, right above the 2011 date stamp.
The thing that confuses me is that if it was a fake and had good funding backing its counterfitting, and 2 years time to make, they should be able to come up with something better.. It was debunked within hours.. I could have better work done inside of 6 hours with an outdated version of photoshop. So Why such a weak effort in counterfitting? The whole thing is confusing.
@Yankeeprepperasshat I clearly understand your thoughts & reasoning on this matter. The answer to your inquiry though is really as simple as the thought processes of the typicle O'Bunghole supporter.
Take a close look at the mental-faculties of your a-typicle O'Bunghole defender. Just how much convincing is required to keep those Morons in-line? Also, O'Bunghole is Black. That alone automatically gives him a FREE-PASS amongst 90% of the entire Black Community, & probably a
@Yankeeprepperasshat I think its a ploy to split the presidential vote between Donald Trump, and Ron Paul in order to create a better chance for Obama to have a second term, or at least put Donald in office. Anything to stop the true constitutionalists Ron Paul.
@So1othurn, Ron Paul a true constitutionalist? I think not-He refused to question Obama's eligibility before he was sworn in, and again, just last week, he said Obama's eligibility to be President "is irrelevant", that he doesn't bring the subject up, he doesn't have a lot to say about it and that he doesn't know that much about it. In other words, he couldn't care less that the Office of President has been usurped.
@So1othurn, Each and everyone of the 535 members of Congress, each having taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution, has been complicit in the undermining the Constitution of the United States. Not one of them can claim ignorance of this issue. If they are too cowardly to question Obama's eligibility, how can we expect them to take a stand against a foreign nation that seeks to do us harm?
@Bigone5555J So, who the hell does that leave for us to vote in as Pres??? Or is it all moot anyway because the NWO is going to put in whomever is next on the list?!?! Shit! Can't we just line them all up -- take em out -- and start all over?? (Just kidding Big Brother!)
NEVER, let it be forgotten that this Bastard has personally invested OVER 2 Mill. Dollars of his OWN Money into at least 2 Lawyers for the sole purpose of NOT BEING FORCED to produce ANY Copy of his Certs. Not only that, But, the S.O.B. also penned & signed a Presidential-Executive-Order for the sole purpose of NOT LEGALLY BEING FORCED TO PRODUCE a copy of ANY of the aforementioned Documents. WHY? Who would do such a thing, and for what purpose? Whatever happened to Investigative reporting?
@ancientastronomer, That was not his money, that was campaign contributions. Since last year, the Justice Department has been defending him too- Our tax dollars at work, defending a usurper.
@ancientastronomer Investigative journalism has been muzzled like in preNazi Germany because of payoffs. I have the inside story about this bankster systemically destroying the United States of America. I know because it is MY money he has been using to screw US. He is a criminal partnered with Sidley Austin Brown & Wood Chicago lawfirm and Lewis & Roca lawfirm (DHS Janet) who created the estate of me DEAD. I AM NOT DEAD. It is simple. I am the soulution.Now I need an honest judge.
You know. I spend most of my time debunking theories of conspiratorial nature. This is one that I have not been able to debunk. Too many questions like the ones that have been so well presented here. I know that some people have given up on the issue out of fear that they will be labeled "birthers", but there are too many questions remaining about this that tell me something is amiss. The longer the questions dangle, the more I'm convinced something isn't right.
@abbienetvision You touched on one point that I think is at the core of what is missing. The paper trail. A BC doesn't just "show up". Or they don't just decide to "pull it out". IF what they said to begin with is true then how were they able to just come up with it out of the blue like this. And wouldn't the hospital be the institution to release it? And wouldn't there be people and paper involved to track the process? And why run off to the Oprah show right after presenting it? Show time?
@catnkaboodle, Yes, I caught that - different registrar on Obama's document. One of Obama's teachers has been claiming he was delivered by a different Doctor too.
@Bigone5555J , I guess I wasn't the only one that caught the different registrar. My epiphany was the fact that the number of the registration was also not in sequence like the twins. Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.
@catnkaboodle, Yes, I did a video about that quite a while ago. Although he was born and registered ealier, he was given a higher document number. It is very strange because the number is assigned by the Health Department at the time the birth is registered.
@Angie2343 Looks to me he thinks we're fools. He and his "Elite" are playing us. It just baffles me that there are so many people that are falling for his "Peacock" apperances and his "Snobbish" attitute. He, or I should call "They" are mentaly ill and either should be institutionalised and/or prossecuted for high treason.
@Angie2343 - Indeed he does! Anyone that is *so* arrogant thinks they are so much smarter than everyone else, (the typical condescending arrogance that liberal/socialists display), and they think we really can't figure it out. I have an idea! How about American citizens actually call their Congressman and Senators and *demand* the Constitution be upheld! Either the Constitution applies to *everyone* or it applies to *no one*! DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AND AMERICA! DEMAND JUSTICE!
@catnkaboodle Good question. Now note the Registrar's name: U K L Lee. Get it? Ukulele is a Hawaiian guitar, pronounced "oo-koo-leh-leh" !! If I were one to believe conspiracy theories I might come to the conclusion, due to the sloppy photo-shop and clear joke of the Registrar's name, "someone" wants Obama out of office.
Glad he released the b.c. I am burnt out over this issue. Yes indeed many questions surrounding the b.c. remain. Having said that i think now is the time to focus on getting Obama out of the white house come 2012.
@computerpurple I tend to agree with that. The fact that Obama is submitting fraudulent birth certificates could take years to prove. Too late to focus on all the other things he's doing wrong.
Down in Texas they say it a littler differently....
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... You fool me you can't get fooled again!"
Really though, folks, this has me worried. We know this new "Long Form" is total bullshit. But will it be enough to get the news agencies to declare the issue resolved? Yes. It already has. And more importantly, will people agree? Yes, I believe too many people will. It's one more crime Obama will get away with. PLEASE someone, tell me I'm wrong.
You can really only ask for so much. I've been asking for Obama to present this very document for years, just like everyone else. Yeah, some strange things are on it, and there are still questions, but this can only be taken so far.
My vote will likely not go for Obama for a variety of reasons, but, if he presented this document, and it is reviewed to be authentic, I am going to need to see convincing evidence that he was born in Kenya in order to use that to justify my vote againsthim.
@Bigone5555J Well, my main beef against him is his softness toward foreigners. He bows before kings and shows hesitation where a strong leader would stand firm to the goals of his administration. Obama is nothing but a talker. He's overhesitant and overcompromising. His words are great, but what Barack just can't understand is that people in congress have selfish goals. You have to earn the respect of congress by hitting them in places they hurt if they are selfish about things.
Obama doesn't do that. He just gives and gives until what he proposed for health care is no longer realized, and is written to make sure congress can gain a quick buck from health insurance companies.
@cbrhawk1 how about expanding the wars, massively increasing spending, not keeping his word that there would be no health care mandates, supporting illegal torture, supporting the assassination of American citizens without a trial, etc etc.
You can see the text has a fuzzy white border. It also appears that the green basket-weave background was applied to the entire document which is a little odd since the part in the middle is supposed to be the photocopied part. So it's as if the text was superimposed on a green background. But why would they go through the trouble of adding the green background, instead of just showing the photocopied black/white? It's almost as Obama wants to continue the controversy.
The document released today by the White House as a "Long Form Birth Certificate" or "Birth Certificate". It's merely another iteration of a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is NOT the same as a Birth Certificate and is obtained by merely reporting a birth without any proof. This is also the document that generated the two newspaper "Birth Announcements" which are also not legal proof of birth.
@kanukster - how can the COLB and long form birth certificates use the same green basket weave pattern when the twins is black and white. Also the text has a fuzzy white border indicating that the text was superimposed unto the green background. But why? And where is the seal pattern? Does Obama think people are stupid?
it's not the original issued when he was born. The health department can make new updated copies though. I had the same problem as obama and I was born in the U.S.
So, riddle me this ... Barry has been screaming bout Bush and him sending troops overseas and how we need them back, then Osma gets wacked and Barry is taking the credit for it? And now he's the greatest Pres ever? He didn't even want the troops over there! But he sure is willing to take the credit for this. Also, there is a rumor that OBL actually died in 2001 - know anything about that? Sites to investigate, etc.?
77Horselady 9 months ago
@77Horselady, Yes, we are to believe, according to the LATimes, that if wasn't for the keadership of Obama, OBL would never have been found. Judging by the photo I saw, it's not OBL. He had a very long thin face and a grey beard-the guy they shot has a short fat face, and his beard was still jet black.
Bigone5555J 9 months ago
Nothing wrong with knowing the truth, but even if it was proven beyond any shadow of a doubt that Obama isn't qualified, nothing would be done. NOTHING. Besides, this doesn't advance the ball toward the goal, which is to reverse 100 years of assaults to the Constitution, and our society.
jwwm2 9 months ago
@jwwm2, So, you believe that the way "to reverse 100 years of assaults to the Constitution, and our society", is to ignore Obama's lack of eligibility, the very man that is leading the largest the attack on the Constitution?
Bigone5555J 9 months ago
Have you been to some of these other sites and listened to the irrational, out and out stupidity of the people regarding Barry's birth certificate? The less leg they have to stand on, the uglier they get. Yelling "racist" and numerous other expletives that have to be flagged off. Their ignorace is truly stunning to me -- just amazing. And the TOTAL resistance of accepting the truth about this that has proof after proof behind it! They wld rather die than admit they are wrong!
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Butterfly1Queen, Oh yes, I get that here too. Most of them are still convinced OJ was innocent too or they're still complaining about Al Gore losing the election or all the money Bush wasted. They are totally unaware of all the money Obama has wasted. It's pretty sad when you think about it.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J Did you know Obama spent MORE in his first SIX MONTHS in office than ALL our former Presidents PUT TOGETHER??? Truth. Hubby, Alex Jones, and several others crunched the numbers. Appalling -- truly appalling!
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Butterfly1Queen, Yes, after claiming he would cut the debt in half by the end of his first term, he tripled the national debt, in his first two years.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J And yet so many people still stand by this idiot! I wonder -- and I mean truly wonder -- why someone hasn't attempted to take him out yet. I didn't think we'd make it this long without somebody pulling something like that -- not that I wish that on him understand -- it's just that assisination attempts have been made on much better Presidents than this con artist! Soetoro hasn't filled ANY of his promises that he made -- former Pres have at least filled a *few* of theirs!
Butterfly1Queen 9 months ago
@Bigone5555J - So with the clear-cut evidence of this supposed, "birth certificate", being made widely publicly available, the question now is, what are we doing about this? Who has contacted their Congressman/women and Senators? What are the results? Are we going to demand an official investigation be completed, or do we just sit back and whine about this? Anyone?
JohnQuincyAdams1 9 months ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1, I believe the only thing that would work is a march on Washington. Every Congressman is fully aware of this issue, and they have all refused to admit there is anything wrong. The Courts refuse to hear any case about Obama's ineligibility, claiming no one has the legal standing to bring suit. The Military has even chosen to ignore the issue, knowing that their Commander in Chief is a usurper, they jailed LtC Laken. The MSM has been involved in the cover-up since day one.
Bigone5555J 9 months ago
@JohnQuincyAdams1, Just yesterday, I read an article about Bobby Jindal. He was born 6 months after his parents arrived from India with Green Cards. He has now released his Birth Certificate, and is planning to run for President. Neither of his parents were US citizens when he was born, but, the Article still claims he is a "natural born citizen". I have no doubt he loves this country, and would be a great President, but, he is NOT eligible.
Bigone5555J 9 months ago
Hey, Bigone555J, why did my response to your response have a "Comment Pending Approval" on it? My first post didn't, and it took FOREVER to reply to your reply. This post has taken forever too. Big Brother monitoring or something? ;-)
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Butterfly1Queen, That's the way my videos are set up. Some of the comments I receive would curl the hair on your toes. Yes, Big Brother is always watching.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J Probably your best bet, it does make conversations a little hard, though! I keep pounding on my computer thinking it's screwing me up! Patience grasshopper .... !! And yeah, I know they are always watching and listening, hence my "Just kidding Big Brother" remark! After I said that, though, my next post got a "Comment Pending Approval" on it -- flipped me out for a second!
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Bigone555J LOL!, that's cute! It'll be fun! We can have a big "take em all out" party!! ;-)
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Butterfly1Queen, The problem is it would never happen. There are too many uninformed voters. Remember Alvin Greene in SC? He won the 2010 Democratic primary and no one knew who he was. Many years ago, one of my state representatives was re-elected, after he died.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J Too true! I can dream, though! NWO is gonna do what they're gonna do. They re-elected him AFTER he died!!! That's hillarious!!! Stupid, stupid sheep!
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Butterfly1Queen, Yes, the same thing has happened twice in Missouri. In 2009, a small town re-elected their Mayor a month after he died, and in 2000 Democrat Mel Carnahan was elected to the US Senate after he died in a plane crash, three weeks before the election, so they appointed his wife to fill the job.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J It seems the Democrats will do ANYTHING to get into office!!! ;-)
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
How did we go from the Certificate," not existing" or "destroyed" to an "Original" long form magically appearing. And even looking at the Whitehouse copy it is clear that some boxes on the form are different shades. I mean common, it is clearly a fake and whoever put it together didn't even do a good job with the digital editing. It is a very sloppy fake. That looks like it was generated in a couple days with little time to prepare it. Physical copy still needs to be authenticated and produced.
wootuser 10 months ago
@wootuser, Yes, even Abercrombie said that all that was found was a notation in the archives. Just by looking at the Pdf image, without any other special software, there are many problems with this image. There are even spots where there is no text, that can be seen to have been altered. Why did they post such a low resolution file? Even the Pdf that AP put out is nearly 3 times larger. See the top two videos in my favorites section for some shocking info on this image.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
The title Birther should be changed to Not Gullible
wipemysmile 10 months ago
Doesn't matter anyway. Nobody can win with this birth certificate information, true, or not. Better to focus on the damage he's doing to American society than to waste time with this.
jwwm2 10 months ago
@jwwm2, Since when is learning the truth a waste of time?
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
Obama may be one of the few REAL "African-Americans" in the country! An "African American" is a person of ANY RACE born in Africa that becomes an American Citizen! Obama is one big LIE.
By they way, "African" is not a race; Obama's father was a NEGRO!
jimbritttn 10 months ago
@jimbritttn, His age is wrong too. He was 27. Also, "Curiously, on an Aug. 17, 1962, application to extend his visa, Obama Sr. filled in a line asking him to list the names and addresses of children. The only child he listed was Roy Obama, a son from his Kenyan wife, Kezia. At that time, Barack Obama Jr. was 1 year old."
See "Birth certificate conflicts with father's real birthday?" on WND
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
So the fact that the department of records in Hawaii has sent out thousands of copies of Obama's birth records apparently means nothing to you? This standard record of birth, from the department of public records, is the most requested document ever. Again, thousands of copies have been requested and sent out. And all those thousands of Official Documents are ... apparently ... fake? Is that what you are saying?
As to the paper, likely all the records are now digital, and printed as needed.
blueboyblue 10 months ago
@blueboyblue, The Hawaii Health Department did NOT send out thousands of copies of Obama's records. Obama's Attorney flew to Hawaii on Monday April, 25, 2011, and purchased TWO paper copies. Someone at the White House, scanned one of the copies, and then made a Pdf file, that contains a low resolution image, and that image is composed of at least 7 different layers of information, which has lead many experts to believe the image was altered. The paper copies were never shown to the public.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
Yes, there is a state seal but it is still a fake.
Angie2343 10 months ago
Doesn't the FBI require all copiers to have micro printing with seriel numbers to asign the ownership of every printer?
glennwih 10 months ago
@glennwih, Yes, but, this is only a digital image. We have yet to see anyone come forward with a genuine, early 1960's birth certificate, from the United States, that lists African as a race. There have to be millions of people that were born back then. Why would Obama's be different?
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
another problem with the long form, as one person I seen on your videos point out before, the race of the COLB of Obama's father is "African," and that same mistake is repeated on the alleged original BC. Africa is a continent, not a race, and in 1961, it should be clearly obvious that anyone with a basic understanding of U.S. history, the race back then would have read "Black/Negro," NOT African. The shear arrogance of these people to repeat the same error that was pointed out before. WOW. SMH.
Tonloc1986 10 months ago 2
@Tonloc1986, Yes, most don't realize how serious of an issue that really is, but, all birth certificates must at least meet guidelines, set in Federal Laws that been in place since 1911. If just one letter on this document was changed, it's a forgery-period.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
Don't worry, old Barry Soetoro will Photoshop edit his state seal in later with his 3rd attempt at a birth certificate ;)
doc7474 10 months ago
@doc7474, No, It's already there-I just spotted it this morning. You have to blow it up at least 300% to see it. It's very faint, but, it's there, right above the 2011 date stamp.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
So Barry what phony baloney documents are you going to release next to the world??
AMAZINGXPRESS 10 months ago
The thing that confuses me is that if it was a fake and had good funding backing its counterfitting, and 2 years time to make, they should be able to come up with something better.. It was debunked within hours.. I could have better work done inside of 6 hours with an outdated version of photoshop. So Why such a weak effort in counterfitting? The whole thing is confusing.
Yankeeprepperasshat 10 months ago
@Yankeeprepperasshat I clearly understand your thoughts & reasoning on this matter. The answer to your inquiry though is really as simple as the thought processes of the typicle O'Bunghole supporter.
Take a close look at the mental-faculties of your a-typicle O'Bunghole defender. Just how much convincing is required to keep those Morons in-line? Also, O'Bunghole is Black. That alone automatically gives him a FREE-PASS amongst 90% of the entire Black Community, & probably a
good 50% Latino.
ancientastronomer 10 months ago
@Yankeeprepperasshat I think its a ploy to split the presidential vote between Donald Trump, and Ron Paul in order to create a better chance for Obama to have a second term, or at least put Donald in office. Anything to stop the true constitutionalists Ron Paul.
So1othurn 10 months ago
@So1othurn, Ron Paul a true constitutionalist? I think not-He refused to question Obama's eligibility before he was sworn in, and again, just last week, he said Obama's eligibility to be President "is irrelevant", that he doesn't bring the subject up, he doesn't have a lot to say about it and that he doesn't know that much about it. In other words, he couldn't care less that the Office of President has been usurped.
watch?v=Porel0FMEHU
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J let me rephrase. To stop a more constitutional minded person. Maybe not enough, but one (I hope) is more so.
So1othurn 10 months ago
@So1othurn, Each and everyone of the 535 members of Congress, each having taken an oath to support and defend the Constitution, has been complicit in the undermining the Constitution of the United States. Not one of them can claim ignorance of this issue. If they are too cowardly to question Obama's eligibility, how can we expect them to take a stand against a foreign nation that seeks to do us harm?
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J I see what you mean.
So1othurn 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J So, who the hell does that leave for us to vote in as Pres??? Or is it all moot anyway because the NWO is going to put in whomever is next on the list?!?! Shit! Can't we just line them all up -- take em out -- and start all over?? (Just kidding Big Brother!)
Butterfly1Queen 10 months ago
@Butterfly1Queen, Can't we just line them all up -- take em out -- and start all over?? Not to borrow a line from Obama, but, Yes We Can.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
i aw rhw aeal on the real one now thanks
Amyls64 10 months ago
see full article by Jerome Corsi at WNDforward slashquestionmarkpageId=292457
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
NEVER, let it be forgotten that this Bastard has personally invested OVER 2 Mill. Dollars of his OWN Money into at least 2 Lawyers for the sole purpose of NOT BEING FORCED to produce ANY Copy of his Certs. Not only that, But, the S.O.B. also penned & signed a Presidential-Executive-Order for the sole purpose of NOT LEGALLY BEING FORCED TO PRODUCE a copy of ANY of the aforementioned Documents. WHY? Who would do such a thing, and for what purpose? Whatever happened to Investigative reporting?
ancientastronomer 10 months ago
@ancientastronomer, That was not his money, that was campaign contributions. Since last year, the Justice Department has been defending him too- Our tax dollars at work, defending a usurper.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago 2
@ancientastronomer Investigative journalism has been muzzled like in preNazi Germany because of payoffs. I have the inside story about this bankster systemically destroying the United States of America. I know because it is MY money he has been using to screw US. He is a criminal partnered with Sidley Austin Brown & Wood Chicago lawfirm and Lewis & Roca lawfirm (DHS Janet) who created the estate of me DEAD. I AM NOT DEAD. It is simple. I am the soulution.Now I need an honest judge.
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HoneySiegalSurvivor 10 months ago
You know. I spend most of my time debunking theories of conspiratorial nature. This is one that I have not been able to debunk. Too many questions like the ones that have been so well presented here. I know that some people have given up on the issue out of fear that they will be labeled "birthers", but there are too many questions remaining about this that tell me something is amiss. The longer the questions dangle, the more I'm convinced something isn't right.
conspiracy777 10 months ago
@conspiracy777
I am exactly the opposite of you, but in this case there are so many questions, the smell of fish is overwhelming.
If this is the certificate, then why did take over 2 yrs to produce it, waste money, the courts time and resources, billboards, etc?
Where is the Original Certificate which he wrote that he found in 1995 (which has a foot print)?
Why is the listed here as Barack Obama II, rather than Jr.? Usually kings use numbers not others.
Why the SS number issue?
abbienetvision 10 months ago
@abbienetvision You touched on one point that I think is at the core of what is missing. The paper trail. A BC doesn't just "show up". Or they don't just decide to "pull it out". IF what they said to begin with is true then how were they able to just come up with it out of the blue like this. And wouldn't the hospital be the institution to release it? And wouldn't there be people and paper involved to track the process? And why run off to the Oprah show right after presenting it? Show time?
conspiracy777 10 months ago
Question,... how many Local Registrars were there at the court house in August 1961? Our local courthouse has only one!
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
@catnkaboodle, Yes, I caught that - different registrar on Obama's document. One of Obama's teachers has been claiming he was delivered by a different Doctor too.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J , I guess I wasn't the only one that caught the different registrar. My epiphany was the fact that the number of the registration was also not in sequence like the twins. Obama was given certificate No. 151 – 1961 – 10641, even though he was born Aug. 4, 1961, the day before the Nordyke twins, and his birth was registered with the Hawaii Department of Health registrar three days earlier, Aug. 8, 1961.
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
@catnkaboodle, Yes, I did a video about that quite a while ago. Although he was born and registered ealier, he was given a higher document number. It is very strange because the number is assigned by the Health Department at the time the birth is registered.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J Did you also see the registrars name? this was braught to my attention by DABIGRAGU1.
when I saw that,... ROFLMAO!!!!!!!!! U K L LEE = UKELAYLEE
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
@catnkaboodle I'VE JUST GOT TO PASS THAT ONE AROUND !!! hahahaha tooo funny to pass up!!!
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
@catnkaboodle Does Obama think we're four years old?
Angie2343 10 months ago
@Angie2343 Looks to me he thinks we're fools. He and his "Elite" are playing us. It just baffles me that there are so many people that are falling for his "Peacock" apperances and his "Snobbish" attitute. He, or I should call "They" are mentaly ill and either should be institutionalised and/or prossecuted for high treason.
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
@Angie2343 - Indeed he does! Anyone that is *so* arrogant thinks they are so much smarter than everyone else, (the typical condescending arrogance that liberal/socialists display), and they think we really can't figure it out. I have an idea! How about American citizens actually call their Congressman and Senators and *demand* the Constitution be upheld! Either the Constitution applies to *everyone* or it applies to *no one*! DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION AND AMERICA! DEMAND JUSTICE!
JohnQuincyAdams1 10 months ago 3
@catnkaboodle Good question. Now note the Registrar's name: U K L Lee. Get it? Ukulele is a Hawaiian guitar, pronounced "oo-koo-leh-leh" !! If I were one to believe conspiracy theories I might come to the conclusion, due to the sloppy photo-shop and clear joke of the Registrar's name, "someone" wants Obama out of office.
DABIGRAGU1 10 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1 OMGoodness, your right. I thought that I was seeing things! This is just hilarious!!!
catnkaboodle 10 months ago
@DABIGRAGU1, It's probably Hawaiian for @$%#@%% You!
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
@Bigone5555J Good one. We did find it on others though, so it does seem to be a coincidence, funny one at that!
DABIGRAGU1 10 months ago
Glad he released the b.c. I am burnt out over this issue. Yes indeed many questions surrounding the b.c. remain. Having said that i think now is the time to focus on getting Obama out of the white house come 2012.
computerpurple 10 months ago
@computerpurple I tend to agree with that. The fact that Obama is submitting fraudulent birth certificates could take years to prove. Too late to focus on all the other things he's doing wrong.
LiveFreeorDieReport 10 months ago
Down in Texas they say it a littler differently....
"Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice ... You fool me you can't get fooled again!"
Really though, folks, this has me worried. We know this new "Long Form" is total bullshit. But will it be enough to get the news agencies to declare the issue resolved? Yes. It already has. And more importantly, will people agree? Yes, I believe too many people will. It's one more crime Obama will get away with. PLEASE someone, tell me I'm wrong.
MarkQuinn2k7 10 months ago
Where is the seal on the real one?
Amyls64 10 months ago
@Amyls64 I didnt see a seal on the real one either.
LiveFreeorDieReport 10 months ago
@LiveFreeorDieReport - The real birth certificate is Kenyan and *does* have an embossed hospital seal. This FAKE birth certificate has no such seal!
JohnQuincyAdams1 10 months ago
@Amyls64, Look at the bottom center of the document where the date is typed. You'll see a circle there about the size of a 1/2 dollar coin.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago
You can really only ask for so much. I've been asking for Obama to present this very document for years, just like everyone else. Yeah, some strange things are on it, and there are still questions, but this can only be taken so far.
My vote will likely not go for Obama for a variety of reasons, but, if he presented this document, and it is reviewed to be authentic, I am going to need to see convincing evidence that he was born in Kenya in order to use that to justify my vote againsthim.
cbrhawk1 10 months ago
@cbrhawk1, The price of gas isn't enough? It was $1.83 when he took office.
Bigone5555J 10 months ago 9
@Bigone5555J Well, my main beef against him is his softness toward foreigners. He bows before kings and shows hesitation where a strong leader would stand firm to the goals of his administration. Obama is nothing but a talker. He's overhesitant and overcompromising. His words are great, but what Barack just can't understand is that people in congress have selfish goals. You have to earn the respect of congress by hitting them in places they hurt if they are selfish about things.
cbrhawk1 10 months ago
Obama doesn't do that. He just gives and gives until what he proposed for health care is no longer realized, and is written to make sure congress can gain a quick buck from health insurance companies.
cbrhawk1 10 months ago
@cbrhawk1 how about expanding the wars, massively increasing spending, not keeping his word that there would be no health care mandates, supporting illegal torture, supporting the assassination of American citizens without a trial, etc etc.
LiveFreeorDieReport 10 months ago
The one that he presented just recently has a similar basket-weave, laser print look to it.
Angie2343 10 months ago 3
You can see the text has a fuzzy white border. It also appears that the green basket-weave background was applied to the entire document which is a little odd since the part in the middle is supposed to be the photocopied part. So it's as if the text was superimposed on a green background. But why would they go through the trouble of adding the green background, instead of just showing the photocopied black/white? It's almost as Obama wants to continue the controversy.
jamezbond78 10 months ago 6
The document released today by the White House as a "Long Form Birth Certificate" or "Birth Certificate". It's merely another iteration of a "Certificate of Live Birth" which is NOT the same as a Birth Certificate and is obtained by merely reporting a birth without any proof. This is also the document that generated the two newspaper "Birth Announcements" which are also not legal proof of birth.
mlsarner 10 months ago 3
Obama finally releases a long form bc 3 years later..... humm
YhwhKhai 10 months ago
Your 100% correct. The first COLB issued by Obama has a basket weave pattern because it's a modern day, computer generated, government issued form.
The 'new' form, has the similar pattern. This means, this 'new' form was also computer generated, with pertinent information placed on it.
How could this possibly be a copy of the original LFBC?
It can't be!
If the information was added, then it was altered. Its that simple. Its a slight of hand, a cheap trick to fool the gullible sheeple!
kanukster 10 months ago 17
@kanukster - how can the COLB and long form birth certificates use the same green basket weave pattern when the twins is black and white. Also the text has a fuzzy white border indicating that the text was superimposed unto the green background. But why? And where is the seal pattern? Does Obama think people are stupid?
jamezbond78 10 months ago 3
it's not the original issued when he was born. The health department can make new updated copies though. I had the same problem as obama and I was born in the U.S.
hoezay10 10 months ago
@hoezay10 - An official copy is still going to have an embossed seal on it. This *fraudulent* birth certificate does *not*!
JohnQuincyAdams1 10 months ago 3