The map wasn't radical. But it deconstructed the old Euro-centric world view just at the time colonialism of European powers in Africa (and elsewhere) was waning...so the map was "radical" as a consciousness-shift over existing world-views. And that was exactly how Arno Peters "positioned" it...with copy attached to the map (side and bottom panels) explaining how and why this "new" world view was important. Gotta give the guy credit for that!
Peters map wasn't radical, there were maps around long before his which try to show countries based on their actual size. Johann Heinrich Lambert made one in 1772, with James Gall producing another in the 1800's. Peters map isn't perfect, the world is a sphere and cannot be depicted accurately as a 2D rectangle. The best Map available is probably the Mollweide projection, created in Germany in 1805. But if you really want an accurate depiction, use a globe or google earth.
wow they lied to us according to this map europe is the tiniest continent and not worthy of being called one. and africa can hold most of the eastern hemp. russia isnt as big as we were told. hmmmm
@heckler171 No one lied to anyone, Accurate globes have been around for centuries. The original projection was a navigational chart, and worked very well for it's intended pupose. No 2D world map can be truely accurate. The orginal projection resulted in things getting larger the further you got from the equator. This was a relativley crude method, but was a good way to show navigational constant course lines as they are. Australia is the smallest continent, not Europe.
All you have to do is check the land mass of every country and you can clearly see the Peters map is accurate. Africa is twice the size of russia and yet when we look at russia on the old original map we learn at school Russia looks bigger than Africa. Do the maths we have been lied to all these years!
I'm from Ireland and this makes us look even smaller than we are hahaha :) However I do believe that the Peters Map is a genuine reflection on the physical appearance of the world relative to land mass. As for Thunderwavia's comments below.... the debate on the map is only a political one because people like you (who dont know what they're talking about) make it one. I truly cant make sense of your prolix comments (look it up).
@paulydublinboy actually from your response, you are rather IGNORANT, making a presumption about me, means you are prejudiced "people like you", dumb Irish bigot. Maybe you should look up the word, ignorant, and prejudiced, keep your ignorant Irish bigotry in Ireland, ha
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Myself being a Canadian, think we need to recognize the signs of LIBERAL fascism and prevent them from using maps like THIS one to degrade European populations, like the Quebecoisie for example.
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The Physical SIZE of a Country does not dictate that peoples prominence. I.E. the Netherlands. LOVE this map, but you have to be Aware that the new Liberal facists elite in many large urban centres like Boston, or New York, will use this to dehumanize European cultural/populations, and the land they live on, like Quebec Canada for example, or the White Anglo majority in the rural and semi rural areas north of the Mexican border to the norhtern Canadian Forest, in our American Homeland.
@Thunderwavia ... what the hell are you talking about?.. go do some research. The only fascists around are the coorporations and the few heads that benefit from them. You think you matter to them? Its an OUTDATED, DISPROPORTIONAL map, that was convinient. It was convinient because Europe, America, (and yes, Canada as well duh!) where depicted to be much larger in comparison to the other landmasses of the world - those places that most north-western countries where trying to conquer. RESEARCH!
@Thunderwavia You really aren't too bright, are you? Did you READ what i wrote above, or do you just go around replying with stupid replies like the one you just posted? WHERE, i ask you, WHERE do I give YOU mister the impression that I am being fucking RACIST whatsoever? WHERE? Please educate me and tell me WHERE. READ my post AGAIN and more carefully this time, please. See if i'm being racist or not. Just read. Bye.
@centerfoldFrancis wow, you must be some ignorant leftie bigot, the only Facsists today are HAMAS, Hezbollah, and the Taliban, and the like. Maybe you should do your research, dumb bigot
@Thunderwavia you are quite stupid. first of all, you can see ( i hope) that "leftie" and "ignorant" don't exactly go together now, do they? well done asshole. number 2, I'm not a "leftie" you dumb ignorant bastard - and if you knew anything about any political thesis, you would know calling someone a "leftie" isn't an insult, especially these days. Oh and, go look up the word Fascism on wiki and see if you can actually make a connection there with what you wrote. Bigot? - Can you read mate?
The map wasn't radical. But it deconstructed the old Euro-centric world view just at the time colonialism of European powers in Africa (and elsewhere) was waning...so the map was "radical" as a consciousness-shift over existing world-views. And that was exactly how Arno Peters "positioned" it...with copy attached to the map (side and bottom panels) explaining how and why this "new" world view was important. Gotta give the guy credit for that!
BAbramms 3 months ago 2
Peters map wasn't radical, there were maps around long before his which try to show countries based on their actual size. Johann Heinrich Lambert made one in 1772, with James Gall producing another in the 1800's. Peters map isn't perfect, the world is a sphere and cannot be depicted accurately as a 2D rectangle. The best Map available is probably the Mollweide projection, created in Germany in 1805. But if you really want an accurate depiction, use a globe or google earth.
EquusFerrarius 3 months ago
wow they lied to us according to this map europe is the tiniest continent and not worthy of being called one. and africa can hold most of the eastern hemp. russia isnt as big as we were told. hmmmm
heckler171 7 months ago
@heckler171 No one lied to anyone, Accurate globes have been around for centuries. The original projection was a navigational chart, and worked very well for it's intended pupose. No 2D world map can be truely accurate. The orginal projection resulted in things getting larger the further you got from the equator. This was a relativley crude method, but was a good way to show navigational constant course lines as they are. Australia is the smallest continent, not Europe.
EquusFerrarius 3 months ago
@aledg I was kinda speaking rhetorically but cheers :)
paulydublinboy 1 year ago
All you have to do is check the land mass of every country and you can clearly see the Peters map is accurate. Africa is twice the size of russia and yet when we look at russia on the old original map we learn at school Russia looks bigger than Africa. Do the maths we have been lied to all these years!
quizmasterdave 1 year ago
I'm from Ireland and this makes us look even smaller than we are hahaha :) However I do believe that the Peters Map is a genuine reflection on the physical appearance of the world relative to land mass. As for Thunderwavia's comments below.... the debate on the map is only a political one because people like you (who dont know what they're talking about) make it one. I truly cant make sense of your prolix comments (look it up).
paulydublinboy 3 years ago 10
@paulydublinboy actually from your response, you are rather IGNORANT, making a presumption about me, means you are prejudiced "people like you", dumb Irish bigot. Maybe you should look up the word, ignorant, and prejudiced, keep your ignorant Irish bigotry in Ireland, ha
Thunderwavia 1 year ago
@Thunderwavia WOW! It took you 2 years to come up with that response! And a rather pathetic (and IGNORANT) one at that.
paulydublinboy 1 year ago
@paulydublinboy hahaha, you bigot, I did not waste my time on this bigot, just read the thread last week, hahha
lets debate, you Ignorant loser
Thunderwavia 1 year ago
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Myself being a Canadian, think we need to recognize the signs of LIBERAL fascism and prevent them from using maps like THIS one to degrade European populations, like the Quebecoisie for example.
Thunderwavia 4 years ago
@Thunderwavia Truth instead of Brainwashing !!! The rest doesn't matter
Djelomou 2 years ago
@Djelomou amen brother, amen..
centerfoldFrancis 1 year ago
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centerfoldFrancis 1 year ago
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The Physical SIZE of a Country does not dictate that peoples prominence. I.E. the Netherlands. LOVE this map, but you have to be Aware that the new Liberal facists elite in many large urban centres like Boston, or New York, will use this to dehumanize European cultural/populations, and the land they live on, like Quebec Canada for example, or the White Anglo majority in the rural and semi rural areas north of the Mexican border to the norhtern Canadian Forest, in our American Homeland.
Thunderwavia 4 years ago
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centerfoldFrancis 1 year ago
@Thunderwavia ... what the hell are you talking about?.. go do some research. The only fascists around are the coorporations and the few heads that benefit from them. You think you matter to them? Its an OUTDATED, DISPROPORTIONAL map, that was convinient. It was convinient because Europe, America, (and yes, Canada as well duh!) where depicted to be much larger in comparison to the other landmasses of the world - those places that most north-western countries where trying to conquer. RESEARCH!
centerfoldFrancis 1 year ago
@centerfoldFrancis dude keep your Racist beliefs to yourself
Thunderwavia 1 year ago
@Thunderwavia You really aren't too bright, are you? Did you READ what i wrote above, or do you just go around replying with stupid replies like the one you just posted? WHERE, i ask you, WHERE do I give YOU mister the impression that I am being fucking RACIST whatsoever? WHERE? Please educate me and tell me WHERE. READ my post AGAIN and more carefully this time, please. See if i'm being racist or not. Just read. Bye.
centerfoldFrancis 1 year ago
@centerfoldFrancis wow, you must be some ignorant leftie bigot, the only Facsists today are HAMAS, Hezbollah, and the Taliban, and the like. Maybe you should do your research, dumb bigot
Thunderwavia 1 year ago
@Thunderwavia you are quite stupid. first of all, you can see ( i hope) that "leftie" and "ignorant" don't exactly go together now, do they? well done asshole. number 2, I'm not a "leftie" you dumb ignorant bastard - and if you knew anything about any political thesis, you would know calling someone a "leftie" isn't an insult, especially these days. Oh and, go look up the word Fascism on wiki and see if you can actually make a connection there with what you wrote. Bigot? - Can you read mate?
centerfoldFrancis 1 year ago