@suprakilzz26 -- a torsen is a type of locker. There are others made with one-way clutches on both wheels, and true torsens (which mine isn't exactly) use directly meshing helical gears with side-loading to get the same behavior mine shows with only two gears, rather than five.
But I m quit sure that you need a small resistance on skidding wheel to apply torque to the other wheel. BUT, this is the simple system. Five star video.
There must be a flaw in your torsen system at 2:06 because torsen differential will not transfer torque to the wheel with grip if the other is in the air.There must be a little resistant inorder to transfer it.Something is missing .... or it's just the scale model.
smellsof bikes, Thanks for the great video on how these amazing differentials work. I'd tried many times to understand them too. I too got it only after I made one out of LEGOs. I patterned mine on one a teenager had on the inter-net. I can't figure out how Mr. Gleason figured it out in his head when he came up w/ the idea. I bet he tested concept with standard worm & pinions arranged like the LEGO versions. The story about how he overcame the challenges in making the gears is amazing too.
Very nicely presented. Working principle is very clearly shown and told, thanks. I'd recommend this to anyone who wants to understand how torsen works.
I heard of torsen-style diffs like 20 years ago and it wasn't until I built this that it actually made sense. Real ones use parallel helical gears rather than worm gears. I can't do that with LEGO for lack of helicals, but the general mode of operation is very similar. I'm glad you found it useful.
Yes, indeed. The real torsen just uses one more step in the translation of motion but your model still flows the same path as in the real one. I had a hard time understanding the animations here in the 'tube because I couldn't see the mechanical advantage/disadvantage from worm to helical and helical to worm, which is the principle behind its ingenious operation. Your model makes it easier to see but had you not pointed it out verbally it still wouldve probly taken me some time to figure it out.
Thanks, man. I've been trying to understand how a torsen can behave like a regular differential on turns and yet prevent open-diff one-wheel slip, and it's all in that phrase at the end: "the worm can turn the pinion but the pinion can't turn the worm." This is the best video here in youtube for the subject.
ah s torsen would be much better at drifting eh?
Guitar0wner 1 day ago
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"and it's all in that phrase at the end: "the worm can turn the pinion but the pinion can't turn the worm.""
Unfortunately only half true. If you follow the power flow, you will see the worm turning the pinion turning the pinion turning the worm -
Not a good design. (the Torsen, not your model) -
MrStuart21 5 months ago
Gotcha! Thanks.
choppercat35 6 months ago
This pinion turns this pinion; this pinion turns this pinion; this pinion turns this pinion -- and that is how Torsen works.
funktku 7 months ago
neat, diff locker! thanks for info bro!
Crytek1337 8 months ago
Theres something wrong about your setup. A proper torsen should not lock when a wheel is on the air...
molak34 10 months ago
baaaaaaaaaaaaaahahaahha... DO DO DOOOOO - LIKE THAT !!! LOL
nickernosher 11 months ago
lego ftw
Kadda67 1 year ago
Well done! Keep up the awesome work!!
iammrprince 1 year ago
so pretty much a torsen is like a locker in that situation where both wheels spin equally?
suprakilzz26 1 year ago
@suprakilzz26 -- a torsen is a type of locker. There are others made with one-way clutches on both wheels, and true torsens (which mine isn't exactly) use directly meshing helical gears with side-loading to get the same behavior mine shows with only two gears, rather than five.
smellsofbikes 1 year ago
EXACTLY! A pinion can not turn a worm!
But I m quit sure that you need a small resistance on skidding wheel to apply torque to the other wheel. BUT, this is the simple system. Five star video.
1302sami 1 year ago
Nice explanation! Thanx! :)
Aleksej79ns 1 year ago
excellent explanation.well done
abhishek744 1 year ago
Thank you for your explanation
RJE06 1 year ago
Very Interesting! I never knew how a differential worked before. Thanks!
clydesight 1 year ago
Very good video
And nice toys also
Don't you happen to sell them? :->
viorelonly 2 years ago
Great video. Finally, I understand how the Torsen works. Thanks.
jiriskala 2 years ago 11
There must be a flaw in your torsen system at 2:06 because torsen differential will not transfer torque to the wheel with grip if the other is in the air.There must be a little resistant inorder to transfer it.Something is missing .... or it's just the scale model.
BTW, excellent vid ;)
geochafg 2 years ago
i think u r wrong. as long as power is transfered from the engine, the torsen will transfer torque to the wheel with most grip.
thats why torsen is such an excellent type of lsd diff
dimos47ki7 1 year ago
that is ingenious!!!!!!
love it!
ats1995 2 years ago 2
5-stars. Thanx, that helps a bunch.
HalfBreedMix 2 years ago
smellsof bikes, Thanks for the great video on how these amazing differentials work. I'd tried many times to understand them too. I too got it only after I made one out of LEGOs. I patterned mine on one a teenager had on the inter-net. I can't figure out how Mr. Gleason figured it out in his head when he came up w/ the idea. I bet he tested concept with standard worm & pinions arranged like the LEGO versions. The story about how he overcame the challenges in making the gears is amazing too.
deezynar 2 years ago
are projects available? if so, where?
Shannariano 2 years ago
Thank you guy this is a very googd video to present the thorsen differential.
crazytiti 2 years ago
Thank you very much!
It is actually that simple...
SEThatered 2 years ago
Very well done. I learned something today :)
LBt1st 2 years ago
Very nicely presented. Working principle is very clearly shown and told, thanks. I'd recommend this to anyone who wants to understand how torsen works.
mondayfool 3 years ago
I heard of torsen-style diffs like 20 years ago and it wasn't until I built this that it actually made sense. Real ones use parallel helical gears rather than worm gears. I can't do that with LEGO for lack of helicals, but the general mode of operation is very similar. I'm glad you found it useful.
smellsofbikes 3 years ago 5
Yes, indeed. The real torsen just uses one more step in the translation of motion but your model still flows the same path as in the real one. I had a hard time understanding the animations here in the 'tube because I couldn't see the mechanical advantage/disadvantage from worm to helical and helical to worm, which is the principle behind its ingenious operation. Your model makes it easier to see but had you not pointed it out verbally it still wouldve probly taken me some time to figure it out.
kiddopocktoole 3 years ago
Thanks, man. I've been trying to understand how a torsen can behave like a regular differential on turns and yet prevent open-diff one-wheel slip, and it's all in that phrase at the end: "the worm can turn the pinion but the pinion can't turn the worm." This is the best video here in youtube for the subject.
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