Can anyone provide a single documented eyewitness account that claims Cromwell was either involved in or ordered the deaths of non-combatants during his campaign in Ireland?
"We robbed the Irish people of their language and their literature, and we attempted to rob them of their Church. We colonised Ireland - especially the north - with people loyal to the Crown and the Protestant faith, and we persecuted the native Irish when they would not conform to our religion. We drove Roman Catholics into exile, and killed thousands of men, women and children - and we invoked God as our justification"
As for Cromwell being racist or sectarian, well here is the oath sworn by the 'whiter than white' people of Wexford in 1642 (7 year before Cromwell landed):
"....they took an oath before Sir Nicholas French, Priest, and Sir William Devereux, Vicar General, that they shall suffer noe English or Protestant to live in this Kingdom, or beare any office here, noe not so much as a Petty Constable's place...."
Catholic Bishop Nicholas French, who was near the town, gave a vivid account of
scourgings, tortures and hangings of unarmed priests, friars and civilians
LOL oliver you are a fool and an idiot. You seem to belive and take all your information from a discredited local historian. What a grade one idiot you truely are.
Drogheda 1649 - there is absolutley no evidence to substantiate the stories of the so called massacre of even one unarmed person on the streets of the town. If you examine the accounts of actual eye witnesses and not those transcribed by Nationalist historians year later
Unfortunatly the British Government hasn't always respected the rights of her citizens in Ireland especailly during the time when about a hundered million people were dieing at the hands of the Inquisitors of the Holy Catholic church. Like today Governments get jumpy when Tyranny is foreseen and innocent people get hurt.
Cromwell didnt like Catholics and believed the exaggerated tales of Catholic atrocities against Protestants in Ireland. He felt he had a divine right to revenge. However, his execution of the King made him hugely unpopular in England, and he also owed vast sums to pay for the civil war there. Like modern governments a war abroad and a seizure of foreign resources solved the problem of unpopularity at home and access to resources for exploitation.
This video typically views the situation from a purely Irish Independence stand point when in fact the Holy father had granted all Irish Land to the English Throne before the reformation so by Papal decree the Land belonged to the crown, A fact not mentioned in many documentaries or current history.
The Pope did hand Ireland over to the Anglo-Normans and ironically it was the descendants of those 12th century invaders (known as the Old English) and their confederate allies the native Irish who fought against Cromwell. It was Old English that were divinely massacred by him at Drogheda and Wexford and both the Irish and Old English whom were ethnically cleansed to west of the Shannon. The King, under whom the Irish did well, was dead, and a puritanical Parliament was in charge at this time.
Legends and Lies, ethnic cleansing in Ireland by farmers sent by the crown, the Church of England did not like Catholics or Dissenters Presbytarians or Baptists and many of these so called ethnic Cleansers were not Church of England members and were persecuted by the official church of England so a move to Ireland was very attractive to them.
The ethnic cleansing was carried out by the New Model Army, a professional army of mainly zealous puritans. It was an awesome force for its time, and they were not farmers. Regrettably, the persecuted English Protestants that came to Ireland took land from dispossessed Irish. Its hardly surprising that this caused significant resentment amongst the indigenous population and for the first time caused Protestantism to be identified with The English.
do i see the mouth of the draiwing king moving?
MyLalinea 4 months ago
Let'a not forget Wexford at least Ireton died!! also the brave Englisman like Walwyn who opposed this slaughter
vivascargill 1 year ago
Anyways, its interesting that at one stage he was enforcing the power of a republic in an Ireland predominately fighting for the British King.
History is a lot more complicated than your average modern bigot would like it to be.
boosra 2 years ago
I think y'all should not rage too much about Cromwells behaviour in Ireland, or try and excuse it.
Whatever the details, its clear he was a pretty ruthless motherfucker, so its unfair to expect an Irishman to have any kind of affinity for the guy.
On the other hand, such ruthless motherfuckers were ten a penny back in the day, so its unfair to expect a British guy to be ashamed of the dude.
He was what he was - a distinctly unlikeable puritan dictator, but a distinctly formidable bloke.
boosra 2 years ago
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Can anyone provide a single documented eyewitness account that claims Cromwell was either involved in or ordered the deaths of non-combatants during his campaign in Ireland?
Oliver1649 2 years ago
Can you name one eyewitness source that claims Cromwell was either involved in or ordered the deaths of non-combatants during his time in Ireland?
Easy old red face.
Bishop French.
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
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Lol....Bishop French said no such thing.
Again, I'll ask you the same question, are ignorant or just a liar?
Oliver1649 2 years ago
"We robbed the Irish people of their language and their literature, and we attempted to rob them of their Church. We colonised Ireland - especially the north - with people loyal to the Crown and the Protestant faith, and we persecuted the native Irish when they would not conform to our religion. We drove Roman Catholics into exile, and killed thousands of men, women and children - and we invoked God as our justification"
Anglican canon Nicholas Frayling
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
Cromwell, my hero
mrtin2811 3 years ago
Cromwell can suck the dick!
markmcconnon 3 years ago
As for Cromwell being racist or sectarian, well here is the oath sworn by the 'whiter than white' people of Wexford in 1642 (7 year before Cromwell landed):
"....they took an oath before Sir Nicholas French, Priest, and Sir William Devereux, Vicar General, that they shall suffer noe English or Protestant to live in this Kingdom, or beare any office here, noe not so much as a Petty Constable's place...."
Oliver1649 3 years ago
The
Catholic Bishop Nicholas French, who was near the town, gave a vivid account of
scourgings, tortures and hangings of unarmed priests, friars and civilians
LOL oliver you are a fool and an idiot. You seem to belive and take all your information from a discredited local historian. What a grade one idiot you truely are.
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
@Paulsixsmith Your an idiot if you believe everything which a RC bishop says.
Noddy1690 1 year ago
Cromwell summoned the town of Drogheda to surrender - they refused.
In the accepted rules of combat in the 17th century he had every right to put all found in arms in the town to the sword.
This he did.
Cromwell won, the Irish Confederates lost.
Get over it.
Oliver1649 3 years ago
Oh dear, I am confused again....
Drogheda 1649 - there is absolutley no evidence to substantiate the stories of the so called massacre of even one unarmed person on the streets of the town. If you examine the accounts of actual eye witnesses and not those transcribed by Nationalist historians year later
Oliver1649 3 years ago
"Can you name one eyewitness source that claims Cromwell was either involved in or ordered the deaths of non-combatants"
Yes you clown olly. Cromwell himself order the death of non-combatant friars. Your face is so red olly.
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
I believe
all the friars were knocked promiscuously on the head but two; the one of which
was Fr Peter Taaff... whom the soldiers took and made an end of; the other was
taken in the round tower, under the repute of lieutenant, and when he understood
that the officers in the Tower had no quarter, he confessed he was a friar; but
that did not save him.
oliver cromwell
face a bit red olly?
Paulsixsmith 2 years ago
Thank you for an excellent video. Really Grateful.
blackdress69 3 years ago
Unfortunatly the British Government hasn't always respected the rights of her citizens in Ireland especailly during the time when about a hundered million people were dieing at the hands of the Inquisitors of the Holy Catholic church. Like today Governments get jumpy when Tyranny is foreseen and innocent people get hurt.
kb3lkm 4 years ago
Cromwell didnt like Catholics and believed the exaggerated tales of Catholic atrocities against Protestants in Ireland. He felt he had a divine right to revenge. However, his execution of the King made him hugely unpopular in England, and he also owed vast sums to pay for the civil war there. Like modern governments a war abroad and a seizure of foreign resources solved the problem of unpopularity at home and access to resources for exploitation.
jratt2 3 years ago
This video typically views the situation from a purely Irish Independence stand point when in fact the Holy father had granted all Irish Land to the English Throne before the reformation so by Papal decree the Land belonged to the crown, A fact not mentioned in many documentaries or current history.
kb3lkm 4 years ago
The Pope did hand Ireland over to the Anglo-Normans and ironically it was the descendants of those 12th century invaders (known as the Old English) and their confederate allies the native Irish who fought against Cromwell. It was Old English that were divinely massacred by him at Drogheda and Wexford and both the Irish and Old English whom were ethnically cleansed to west of the Shannon. The King, under whom the Irish did well, was dead, and a puritanical Parliament was in charge at this time.
jratt2 3 years ago
Legends and Lies, ethnic cleansing in Ireland by farmers sent by the crown, the Church of England did not like Catholics or Dissenters Presbytarians or Baptists and many of these so called ethnic Cleansers were not Church of England members and were persecuted by the official church of England so a move to Ireland was very attractive to them.
kb3lkm 4 years ago
The ethnic cleansing was carried out by the New Model Army, a professional army of mainly zealous puritans. It was an awesome force for its time, and they were not farmers. Regrettably, the persecuted English Protestants that came to Ireland took land from dispossessed Irish. Its hardly surprising that this caused significant resentment amongst the indigenous population and for the first time caused Protestantism to be identified with The English.
jratt2 3 years ago