A Misunderstood Religion or a Predatory Cult part 5

[poneyboy23]

Full of lies, full of anger, insecurity and willing to resort to any tactic required to advance their views. Mind control, physical restraint, sensory deprivation, nothing is out of range for them. Lisa McPherson - that's all you need to know. You can't leave without being mistreated and/or kidnapped. These guys are thugs and need to be dismantled and the money given to the poor. If we don't dismantle them, someone far more dangerous will take on their apparatus and then we're all in for it.

[littleteethkeith]

A cult seems like a great way to get tons of pussy.

[SpecialEdward121]

Scientology is so fucking weak they couldn't even dispatch more than 5 people to Thumbs Down this vid.

[LandingCraft1969]

These celebs are such good people!

[CovenantOfLove]

Didn't help her eating disorder...what a crock.....maybe there fake demon detector is out of order...and talk about being pushy they are off the chart.... =)

[CovenantOfLove]

bug bites...? wtf...boy oh boy are we slipping into a comma as a nation

[Obamaownswhitesnow]

I rather by a Muslim than a scientologist.

[07volvo]

Wow! I wonder why so many talented, smart and successful people are involved with Scientology!

[Illeagle98]

Scientology was clearly created by Crowley's buddy Hubard to prey on the gullible, the rich, and the feeble-minded. Anybody with any critical thinking skills can determine this (scientology) is a JOKE...a big, fat, expensive joke.

[arayalrio]

What does it say that as a used car salesman today, Mike Rinder is at least one step above what he was in $cientology? There's sleaze, and there's SLEAZE.

[sirensealight]

"Expose their crimes." Spoken like a true robot.

[halo3gamehead]

@sirensealight Scientology is a cult of fanatic crazies

who believe that brainwashing helps people

screw scientology

i cant wait till the day scientology is proven as a fake

When mister hubbard fuck face is getting raped upp the asshole

by federal court saying he mislead thousands into believing

there is no God Fuck him

He's the anti-christ

[sirensealight]

@halo3gamehead I agree.



[paulod27]

@halo3gamehead @halo3gamehead L Ron Hubbard has been dead for many years, so it's unlikely that he will be in a federal court lol.

[duesexmachina100]

The endorphin gland is a highly needed organ for the interaction between two individuals, without the endorphin gland a person can't connect with someones emotions. Now studies have shown that the gland cannot be repaired or shock therapy is the result of jolting electric volts to an unbalanced mind, in order to forcefully mend the broken pieces. Though how is the endorphin gland a broken piece when its said to be an entire gland missing specific functions?

[drpeck104]

My crazy beliefs and invisible deity are better than your crazy beliefs and invisible deity. In other words, we're all pretty fucking crazy.

[barmtrail]

Soon the lid will be blown off scientology and the world will see what they are all about.You cannot hide the eyes of those who are scientologist. Watch closely people. CULT/CULT/CULT/CULT

[goofydog2]

One is lead to believe that the inner-core higher-ups are knowledgeable about the inner workings of Scientology and that the "HOLLYWOOD STARS" are, no doubt, kept from the real meat and potatoes of how Scientology attacks any and all people who question Scientology by 'exposing' their crimes. BUT, here is Christy Ally saying precisely what the core Scientologist preach in their "Fair Game" policy. She states; "the best way to fight somebody is to expose their (the attacker's) crimes!" SPOOKY!

[picasso94]

i think the whole thing is just overrated. people are scared, hubbard is wack, many scientologist is acting freaky. what i have read, it doesnt sound much more crazier than any other religion, but then i have no ideá what to believe.

i´m just happy that some of them is understanding and doesnt attack the ones that dont believe in scientology

[AgentxAnonymous]

@picasso94 "i´m just happy that some of them is understanding and doesnt attack the ones that dont believe in scientology"

That couldn't be further from the truth. They have a policy called fair game where they stalk/set up/murder their critics.

[mebeluvined]

scientologists need to drink the kool-aid and we need to move on

[RunLiberty]

Read libertarian psychiatrist Thomas Szasz but Scientology is authoritarian

[briggs9187]

Scientology is all about a world without insanity by taking the insanity of SCientology....does that makes sence?

[Xstatic112]

Misunderstood Religion or Predatory Cult?

None.

It's Medical Quackery desguised as a Cult, desguised as a religion.

[73871000]

If he doesn't wanna be a part of it......then he should get out of there.......

[godswiph]

wow... she calls 'em "customers." interesting...

[Fogslifted]

Fighting for something is the same as defending it! Jesus these people are twisted! Expose what crimes!? What the hell is Kirsty talking about!? God these people are so brain washed is sad.

They talk in circles never actually saying anything. lmao A hurt woman who's husband divorced her is WAY different than a person who had been the victim of a horrible act or violation of some kind that leaves a group or club of some kind. In this case an abusive sick brain washing cult!!

[Fogslifted]

You don't have to fight in every circumstance or ruin people's lives who talk bad about you. If you were so wonderful and always wanting to do nothing but help another, why not show humility and ignore quietly those you feel are slandering you? Sticks and stones. Fo a "church" or "religion" who claim to have all the answers and are so helpful and giving, they are extreamly combative and ruthless. You can't be both. It's a bullshit con organization or cult who's objective is money period.

[Fogslifted]

Scientology wants a world without insanity? Then it's ironic then that it was started and now continues to run by people who are insane!!

If it was as wonderful as these people say noone would want to leave period. So I believe those who have been there and escaped! It's horrific what they do to people that are members and even more so to those who leave. This has every element of a dangerous cult! No Doubt!!

[MrWinston1984]

So when you have dissatisfied customers the thing to do is "expose their crimes".

Wow. Just wow. They really don't see how absolutely FUCKED up they are.

[magikamerika]

Scientology wants a world without insanity??? The word oxymoron comes to mind...with emphasis on the moron. Travolta's a joke, Alley's a joke, Cruise is most definetly a joke, Hubbard's a joke, and SCIENTOLOGY IS A FUCKING JOKE!

[ekocentric]

I grew up in the jehovah's witness religion and I am going to sum of my opinion of all of this religion shit as nicely as possibly. Religion sucks. God is in.

IT seems that no matter how noble a minister is in the beginning things don't work out for everyone in that church.

On the other hand a lot of people need the meetings at a church for fellowship with others. I am so glad that this is a free country and I don't have to believe in this shit.

[Dakarn]

I can't help but catch on a bad word from Kirstie....

customers..

If you have a group of dissatisfied CUSTOMERS...

Religion or Business, Kirstie? Religions don't have customers. Businesses do.

[thegirl44]

Kirstie should stop advertising the business...Travolta, too.

You're OTC7, can bend the world to your will with your psychic abilities but you can't drop the 3 stone or so that's been plaguing you for 3 decades, you fat fucks?

[rainbowofhazes]

I really wonder how scientology works. It seems like they get celebrities to join, probably by not asking anything in return from them. And then what? people are actually dumb enough to join something just because famous people do? From what I've seen I assume if you're involved in it for long enough you get brainwashed so you can't apply logic, but how do you join in the first place? The empty promise of 'you can unlock powers' is enough?

[ntelekt1]

Probably disguised as an acting class, or told them Dianetics/Scilonism could improve their acting, thus getting them better roles and more money... and the cycle begins.

[silbitnuoc]

I can answer this question for you through a special training session for $5,000.

[AnthraxMuffin]

From what i've heard some of the sessions make you feel better, like you are improving yourself. But this is at the start to draw you in and that's why Scientologists ignore the bad and cling to their sessions.

[ekocentric]

When I lived in Hollywood, CA the Scientology church was on Sunset and Vermont and occasionally you'd see the church members walking around with Militaristic jackets and hats passing out fliers with job offers.

I was homeless when I was handed one of the flyers and when i went to the "interview" was told that I had to join the church and buy these church related books.

I have read a couple of the L.Ron Hubbard books and they are a little "out there" but upbeat and offer a lot of good advice.

[killerpass101]

CULT

[JacYodac]

well I was just standing here, tom cruise locked himself in the closet. John travolta in the closet too. so i calm myself down, then I PULL OUT MY GUN!!! tell me why tom cruise and john travolta in the closet lest immonuh shoot someone!

[thegirl44]

Now I'm in the closet, I'm in the closet now.

[greatgiginthesky2739]

will smith's there too.

even that cool chick from darma and greg..

but the worst... is probably the guy from that 70's show...

what a waste, honestly...

[sugarpuddin88]

Humans are weak & scared

And they constantly long for a mama to help them get along through life

Some men replace their "mama" with some religious leader; or a government leader: or both

In reality gods are fairy tales invented to help man sleep better at night

Man must live life on his own terms; must create his own rational morality; and look TO HIMSELF for help through life

Man cannot look to gods, religious leaders or mama for help to get through life

[blamecanada123456789]

All $cientology did was help her die...

[cyric1313]

I hope Kirsty Alley reads this.

What are your crimes? what are they? what do you have to hide? wuss. why you hiding? what are your crimes? what are you afraid of? spit it out. you're nothing but bad. you need to inturbulate yourself. welcome to $cientology. that'll be $2300 please.

there, feel cozy & warm inside? :-)

[usaforeveryours]

Kirsti makes me ill. So ignorant.

Ask yourself this. Why was John T's son found the next morning at 10am by a care taker and was last seen going into the restroom by himself at about 10pm the night before? Didn't anyone think to check on him? Also, being that money is no object and Jett was known for having seizures, why didn't the Travolta's pad the hard surfaces in the living areas? $cientology killed Jett you bastards!!!

[OniLunchbox]

makes me proud to be german

[StarvingForTruth]

creepy

[NBD4EVER23]

mark bunker wise bread man

[NBD4EVER23]

Fred Savage

Fred Durst

Kevin Smith

Val Kilmer

[z8it]

There's a truth that can be found in every word... like

beLIEve .

There is a LIE at the center of anything that place your belief in.

Try to keep that in mind, It will save you from being a brainwashed Sheep.

Be the authentic, Creative, fearless SELF that you truly are.

Think for yourself.

[z8it]

Unfortunately, it's inate of the Human condition ( in some) to require a Mythos (a story) in order to direct their Ethos (behavior)

LRH understood that basic essential need and exploited it. He created one (a whopper) out of whole cloth .

Xenu .. Oh brother!

If you really want to get "Clear" read Joseph Campell and try to understand why; We Human Beings need to create and believe these Stories in the fist place.

To aswage Our false FEAR of separation from the loving source of Our CREATION.

[NaturalSelection2]

Wow...I don't know why I expected more from Kirstie Alley..but I did. I thought she'd be at least less cliché than the "What are your crimes?" drones.

[Imariscent]

Kirstey Alley said it, dissatisfied customers. It means they are selling you something that people know it's crap. What church has customers, I don't understand why America hasn't stopped this Scientology cult. I believe america is afraid that they might be found out that they are aliens. So they don't want to mess with the Scilon lawyers, because hey they can either prove it or make it up.

[bassmanfl420]

kriste alley should stick to cheers and fat people food, i hate $cientologist and $cientology

[DestroyerMariko]

That last comment where they're saying "why believe a few dissatisfied customers" ignores the fact that Scientology brainwashes AND threatens its members into submissive obedience. The people still trapped inside have no other option but to praise their cult and master.

[lazarus0202]

Leah Remini Giovanni Ribisi Marissa Ribisi Mimi Rogers Billy Sheehan Michelle Stafford Ethan Suplee Gabor Szabo Jeffrey Tambor John Travolta Greta Van Susteren Diane Watson Edgar Winter Woody Woodmansey

[lazarus0202]

Haywood Nelson

Corin Nemec

Marisol Nichols

Judy Norton-Taylor

Michael Peña

Liz Phair

Laura Prepon

Lisa Marie Presley

Priscilla Presley

Kelly Preston

[lazarus0202]

Jason Lee

Geoffrey Lewis

Juliette Lewis

Rilwanu Lukman

Chris Masterson

Danny Masterson

Julia Migenes

Sofia Milos

David Miscavige

[lazarus0202]

Jenna Elfman

Doug E. Fresh

Soleil Moon Frye

Leif Garrett

Bibbe Hansen

Isaac Hayes

Katie Holmes

L. Ron Hubbard

Vardan Kushnir

[lazarus0202]

Kirstie Alley Anne Archer Lynsey Bartilson Beck Jason Beghe Catherine Bell Trevor Bolder John Brodie Nancy Cartwright Sharon Case Erika Christensen Chick Corea Tom Cruise Eddie Deezen Jason Dohring Bodhi Elfman

[11Jamie11]

Jason Beghe is OUT!

watch?v=KHb0BZyF5Ok

[jp00000420]

All $cientologists are LRH robots.

[iamitchey]

Actors like John Travolta are kept in a very different Scientology world than many of us were. They are very valuable to Scientology as advertisers for their religion, so its no wonder many of them have nothing but praise for Scientology.

[biggerflexible]

no no no,  why is Kirstie Alley talking like a Nazi? WTF

[jeepershorton]

dang, yeah, basically she was saying that a proper defense of your position is an ad hominem argument.

[11Jamie11]

She's simply putting what elRong Hubbard said into action, exactly as she's been programmed to do. He said anyone who attacks Scientology must be a criminal, so be confident that they are a criminal and expose their crimes.

[LFraudHubbard]

Forget for a moment the people we know about that have been murdered in the Fort Harrison, how many times have they been able to totally cover it up?

That's just one of there many building where people just "seem" to die mysteriously?

I know there is one case overseas, where a government officials family member "death" is being looked at.

I guess we wait till some Senators little girl is sucked into Scientology, but doesn't make it out?

Google: "Freewinds Asbestos" How many more death?

[BlackProteus]

Will Smith, Tom Cruise and Kirsty Allie are Scientologists? Well, that's it then, it must be the one true faith, because those three are like Ghandi, Einstein and Virginia Woolf, respectively -- better, actually. Why anyone doesn't follow the example that Hollywood actors set, I don't understand, since they are obviously the smartest people in the world. Could Einstein pretend to be other people like they can? Hardly.

[hobgoblin5921]

i feel i need to point out the sarcasm in this comment

[BlackProteus]

I'm not being sarcastic. Tom Cruise is brilliant. He invented the Internet, if I recall correctly. And Will Smith won the Nobel Prize in the little-known category of One-liner Delivery. Kirsty Allie lost a bunch of weight and then gained it back and then lost it again and then gained it back -- which I believe was a complex performance art piece, commenting on the Sisyphus myth and modern feminism. Geniuses all! Their religion shall be mine too!

[hobgoblin5921]

i feel i need to point out the sarcasm in this comment !!

[bigjmckinlay]

i suppose everyone to there own, but i just dont get it. live for the now, beleive in what you want to beleive in, but dont let anyone tell you what is right and wrong. we all have a brain and know the difference, whatever is there for you at the end will be there, and noone will change that for me. i dont beleive in any religion as such, but i know where i go will be a better place! damn shame people and celebs have to force there opions on others.

[mollie2810]

I'm so disappointed about Kirstie Alley. I liked her so much as an actor and it's so sad that she is so brainwashed and takes this "expose someone's crime"-shit.

[trajan74]

no crime, no insanity those were two things the nazis wanted

[45tsd]

The only one I will miss is Will Smith..Tom & Revolta are in too deep.

Save WILL!

[MrFyde]

John Travolta says he wants to join any group against War, insanity. and criminals in this clip.

[StaciinSF]

Suckers.

[erkekler]

Travolta and Kirstie Allie...what morons...

it's such a shame.

Boycott all $cientology celebrities.

[leocivic]

no war, ciminality, and insanity. really?? so tom cruise is not insane?? all those ciminals in scientology are all angels??

[orlandrake]

Anon... beware of Kristy Alley. She could easily eat a large group of Anons.

[MisterJuggalo]

has anyone elce knoticed john and kristy dont seam to be all gung ho anymore its all tom cruz lateley hmmm time + intelegence =

[nonbreeder]

It was chilling when Kirstie Allie says "expose YOUR crimes" because she sounds like all of the other Scientology nuts who spout that obsessively. I always liked her, but after seeing this, I don't think I can ever look at her the same again. As well, she is sheltered from the horrors of those with a lesser name and lesser money.

[mistereveready]

hmm, fanatics are scary.

[adehmark]

Did she say disatisfied customers? Isn't it a religion. Does a religion have "customers"?

[WallHallica]

...or copyrights for that matter!

[123itisfree]

@adehmark Yes, because all man made religions are a scam, and for sale to the highest, mind controled customer.

[phavix]

Did She just say that you can't trust a womans version of things?

[gnwhite]

I wonder why scientology did not cure her overeating? She turned to jenny craig. LOL

[voyzovrezon]

I was thinking the same thing. LOL

[heyanonnyno]

A world without 'insanity'? Insanity is one of the things about being human.

The way they think you can 'erase' your bad experiences - it's total bunkum. As the great Captain Kirk said, "I don't want my pain taken away - I *need* my pain!"

[manyleaves]

20/20 needs to do another story on Scientology! Scientology are Nazis!

[neogenesisfool]

around 7:15 Kirstie Allie describes followers of the cults as "satisfied customers". Accurate representation.