When comet Wormwood enters the earth’s atmosphere it will not burn, it will melt. And, as it goes directly from a solid to a gas, it will release into the earth’s atmospheric deadly gases - gives the water a bitter taste, and it causes many who drink the water to die - hydrogen cyanide for one
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD.
@donsteigerwald So in your little pagan world when Messiah died you can now act in anyway you want with no fear of punishment because He fulfilled the Law? Scripture says He did not come to abolish the Law, but to "fulfill". That fulfill means to "confirm" or "make full", NOT do away with.
Messiah only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, NOT the New Testament church. Sorry....
@donsteigerwald You are NOT delivered from "lawlessness/iniquity" if you continute in "lawlessness/iniquity." Even if you feel good about your "lawlessness/iniquity." Sorry.. Good luck with that..
If the Torah of the Father is written on your heart, you will follow it. Why don't you??
@markswilson8@markswilson8 Titus 2:12 -14Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Many will come to me on that Day and say Lord Lord have we not DONE...
By the works of the law NO MAN shall be justified.
We are saved by Grace , through trusting in, relying upon, clinging to Jesus.
You search the scriptures for jn THEM you think you have eternal life, but THEY are that which testify of Me.
You have read into revelation , meaning that was not indicated there. While the truth is that we will ALL be judged by our works, NONE of us will be saved or delivered from death by them.
@donsteigerwald Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Mat 7:22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Mat 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
@donsteigerwald More Christian phrase-plucking blather... You think you are saved by the graciousness of the Father and therefore you should be as disobedient to His commands as possible.
@mdsv11 Once again, you are merely reading what you want INTO the partial passages you are referring to. They do not state anything remotely close to what the rapture dogma claims. It ain't there. Sorry....
Try thinking for yourself instead of listening to the Sunday morning clowns that spoon feed you the wormwood pablum.
Revelations 3 verse 3 Go back to what you heard and believed at first; hold to it firmly. Repent and turn to me again. If you dont wake up, I will come to you suddenly, as unexpected thief. 1 Thessaloninas 4 verse 17 Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on earth will be Caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 2 Peter verse 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief. Then the heavens will pass terrible noise, and the element will disappear in fire.
@mdsv11 Sorry.. None of the phrases you plucked from the NT say anything about a "rapture." They are speaking of His return at the resurrection. You would see that if you read the entire passages and didn't pluck a phrase from the middle. I know this ridiculous dispensational dogma better than you.
It says nothing about Yeshua taking Christians out of the world before He judges it. You are drinking too much wormwood on Sunday mornings. Good luck with that.
@mdsv11 LOL!! Really?? Not a single one of those verses say a single word about a "rapture." You are dreaming! A couple of those verses you referenced speak of His return at the resurrection and in judgment. But none of them say He will "Star Trek up" the happy lil' ignorant Christians before He gets mad at the rest of the world.
Once again, it is all smoke and mirrors. Good luck with that. More wormwood..
@mdsv11 The imagined "rapture" was concocted by an agenda. It was derived from contorting a few phrases from Scripture and playing upon the false hopes, dreams, and emotions of many Christians. It has absolutely no basis in Scripture. It is all smoke and mirrors..
@mdsv11 LOL!! There is a "rapture" in Revelation 3?? Really?? Where?? Only in your imagination. There is NO "rapture" in Scripture whatsoever. The ridiculous "rapture" is a fabricated concept that appeals to the gullible Christian masses who think they are too special to be judged and who refuse to think for themselves.
@mdsv11 You're kidding right? I hate to tell you , but Scripture directly points out that Christians are going to be in the cross hairs of God's wrath for there proud disobedience. You may want to quit patting yourself on the back and study Scripture a little more, because you are riding the wormwood train. You won't like the destination.
@markswilson8 God's gonna Rapture his Church and his Believers. Theres gonna be people, the Mockers and others that heard the Gospels of Jesus But Didnt believe that made fun and Change their Minds once the Rapture happen. Left Behind are the one that Believe but they have to go through God's Wrath and Refuse the Mark of the Beast...
@mdsv11 You are truly a moronic mental midget. You don't even understand Messiah or His Name. There is NO rapture. The term is NEVER mentioned in Scripture. There's NO anti-christ EVER mentioned in prophecy and the only people left behind will be those, like you, who suck up the wormwood and are disobedient to the Word of God. REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND! That is the gospel! Has been since the beginning of time.
@markswilson8 God's gonna Rapture his Church and his Believers. Theres gonna be people, the Mockers and others that heard the Gospels of Jesus But Didnt believe that made fun and Change their Minds once the Rapture happen. Left Behind are the one that Believe but they have to go through God's Wrath and Refuse the Mark of the Beast...
@markswilson8 God's gonna Rapture his Church and his Believers. Theres gonna be people, the Mockers and others that heard the Gospels of Jesus But Didnt believe that made fun and Change their Minds once the Rapture happen. Left Behind are the one that Believe but they have to go through God's Wrath and Refuse the Mark of the Beast...
watch BLOOD MOONS AND SOLAR ECLIPSES. this video is stupid a true CHRISTIAN isnt worried about the trumpets or plagues since we will be gone, dont believe nasa about planet x or watever they wana name whatever they say might hit us
@acerv36 Really? That's what you got from the video? It's obvious to see that you are filled with wormwood. By the way, there is NO rapture even hinted at in Scripture. Christians don't get a free pass. Scripture tells us they aren't the solution, but a BIG part of the problem.
@acerv36 You apparently didn't watch the video, moron. This video said nothing about your planet x or whatever you are whining about. Your ranting helps prove the identity of wormwood spoken of in this video.
No thanks on your silly blue moon video or whatever it is. Not interested. More fake Christian pablum. Your rapture myth only exists in your wild and vivid imagination. Keep listening to your lying preachers and entertainers.
Is it just a coinscidence that in the Ukrainian Language, Chernobyl means mugroot or wild wormwood? Now in 2 Esdras 5 (was considered Apocrypha, why - this example matches Rev.) "But if The Most High grant thee to live, thou shalt see after the Third Trumpet..." and further, the clincher, in verse 7:
7 And the Sodomitish sea shall cast out fish (AIDS), and make a noise in the night, which many have not known: but they shall all hear the voice thereof.
@themanningsjdsjjj Really?? Yawwwwnnn.. So fish is AIDS and Chernobyl means mugroot? Yeah, you really rocked the world with those tidbits of information. You are officially a "kook."
And I saw the anti-Semitic crap on your page. More nonsensical tripe. And I don't put up with that. You are blocked..
I absolutely agree with the principal of this video, however I have a hard time accepting the symbolic representation of waters for people, as " waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters(people?), because they were made bitter. "
-men died from drinking people?
I'd stick with God allowing an asteroid or something that poisons literal water. When mankind rejects Gods law, He withdraws His protection, and this is one of the results.
@Denemoore The passage does not say that the waters drank waters. It says that wormwood fell upon the waters and a third of the waters became wormwood. A third of the people became wormwood, which is lawless Christianity. They died because they were made bitter to the Torah. The symbolism fits perfectly.
Are you looking for an asteroid and a seven-headed, ten-horned beast to rise up out of those waters that are made bitter? Sounds like Godzilla destroying Tokyo.
@PDMac60 I understand your point. It does fit well. But I don't rely on the argument that because some things in revelation are symbolic that everything must be symbolic. In my video on the black horse of revelation I show the problem with getting too carried away with symbolism. If you take the time to watch the first few minutes of this, you'll see a very different approach to understanding symbolism. I also must accept that there are different layers to prophecy. "I call my son out of egypt
@Denemoore Everything in Revelation is symbolic. The timeframes given are symbolic also. But they can all be understood. All of the symbols in Revelation are clarified in the Tanakh (Old Testament).
There will not be a "devastating meteor shower" as you say could be a possibility. There is NOT going to be a "New World Order" as Christians myth speaks of. Left Behind is terrible fictional delusion. Christianity rejects Torah and totally misunderstands Scripture.
@PDMac60 Don't group me with pre trib christians who reject the Torah. If you watched my video you would know not to do that. no new world order? there will be 10 kings who give their authority to her who have had not authority as of yet. And since revelation has already begun to be fulfilled literally, you might want to reconsider your view.
@Denemoore I didn't say you reject Torah. I said Christianity does. And you interpret prophecy the same way they do, which is horribly incorrect. Christianity misinterprets Scripture in every way, including prophecy. No, there will NOT be ten kings that blah, blah (It's already happened.). There will not be a "new world order." That's all Jack Van Impe idiocy. Tell me what in Revelation has "literally" been fulfilled. Good luck with that.
@PDMac60 I don't interpret prophecy the same way, you would have to watch a few minutes of my black horse video to understand that I share nothing in common. Prophecy is being perfectly fulfilled in a literal futuristic way. You might want to reconsider that prophecy fulfills in multiple ways. the chief fulfilment is the one that is about to happen. Just like "I called my son out of Egypt" was fulfilled with Israel, but literally fulfilled when Jesus was literally called out of Egypt.
@Denemoore Once again, show me something in Revelation that has been literally fulfilled. You can't do it because it doesn't exist. Revelation is symbolic. Period. Prophecy does not have multiple fulfillments. That passage in Hosea that was quoted by Matthew was ONLY prophecy for Yeshua. It was NOT prophecy for Israel. It was a historical fact for Israel at that time prophesying of Messiah.
I don't want to watch any more of your videos. What I have already seen was painful enough..
@PDMac60 I'de encourage you to watch my video on the black horse of revelation. The horsemen, are currently being fulfilled literally, just as verse 6:8 states. For example, the only 2 commodities that are not becoming expensive are Olive Oil and Wine. while all the other commodities like wheat,barley, rice etc are going up by up to 90%.
@Denemoore I took the time to watch your video on the horseman. I have to tell you, since idiots like LaHaye and Van Impe, I have never seen such a butchering of Scripture. Just as Torah answers the questions on how one should live, it also is the key to prophecy. First, you have NO idea what Scripture points to as the Abomination of Desolation and since you so horribly miss that, the rest of your diatribe is false. You really need to drop the christian dogma.........
@markswilson8 i didn't go into too much detail on the topic of the abomination of desolation on that video. I just showed the principal of how it works. Any time a person knowingly rejects truth or God, God must allow that which they worship to protect them. God must turn their back on them, and hence destruction or desolation comes. This is the basis of the sanctification aspect of the Gospel. The point of this video was not to pinpoint abomination/s that occurred in the past
@Denemoore I understand that wasn't the point of your video, however I can tell by the little that you did mention you have NO clue what you are talking about. Until you use Torah as your reference point, you will continue to miss the mark in ALL your prophecy. There were several other points (to numerous to mention in this forum) where you are simply spouting the same old worn out christian dogma. If you want to understand anything in Scripture, start with Torah.
@markswilson8 I have a very good understanding of Torah. Prophecy has more dimension to it than either of us may ever understand. take the "i call my son out of egypt example. First fulfilled as God called His people out of egypt. Then again fulfilled literally as Jesus was called out of egypt. you have lessons that people draw out of prophecy, aspects of the gospel, layers of the great controversy, type/anti-type These points often don't contradict. Some do not represent a literal fulfilment.
@Denemoore Really? I don't see it in your study. Since you're a little slow on the uptake I'll quote pdmac60, "That passage in Hosea that was quoted by Matthew was ONLY prophecy for Yeshua. It was NOT prophecy for Israel. It was a historical fact for Israel at that time prophesying of Messiah." Your whole premise is so flawed it is hilarious. You have the 4 horsemen messed up, the A of D is messed up. Here's a little hint, the USA & Canada are not mentioned in prophecy at all.
@markswilson8 yes that is my point that prophecy is fulfilled symbolically. israel spiritually represents the messiah. so one mention of the prophecy is symbolic while the other is literal. My study is to show that the 4 horsemen are being fulfilled literally, and as we speak, they are. the A of D principal i showed is backed up in many ways through scripture. This principal is the most important aspect to understand in prophecy. it is all throughout torah. The Law is the foundation of this.
@Denemoore Again, your butchering of Revelation proves absolutely nothing except you make the same mistakes as the church. Prophecy is proved to the DATE when using Torah and the TaNak as a whole. When using those tools, Scripture supports Scripture. Your way, Scripture does not prove anything, because you are using your "feelings and preconceived beliefs" and spinning Scripture to make your point, just like Christianity as a whole. I can prove it, but you want to teach, not learn.
@markswilson8 2)they are the focal point of prophecy. I believe the messianic community is almost as guilty of this as the christian community.One good example of prophetic type in the Torah is in the story of Joseph, who intentionally hid his identity from the 12 brother/tribes of Israel until they had proven their character was changed, and were ready to repent of persecuting Joseph/the messiah.The clues were there that He was their brother but they were blind to them until they repented.
@markswilson8 1)my goal is to come together and find others who have dedicated time to studying prophecy and see what we can learn from each other. I also believe that that most people use an egocentric approach to interpreting prophecy in that they believe their church, country or ...
@Denemoore That was so nonsensical I almost feel asleep. We have figured prophecy out simply using the TaNaK. Hint, it's not that difficult. The messianic community IS guilty of a lot the Christians do and makes me happy I don't claim that label either. If you really want to learn something REAL, I can direct you to some REAL videos with meat, not news clips and you crushing Revelation to death.
@markswilson8 yah link me some. but i find your attitude interesting for one who stands for the law of God. The 10 commandments is the scientific spiritual law of love, just as the law of thermodynamics refers to heat and energy. It works in a cause and effect principal just as any other law of science.
-you can't claim to stand for the law of love while, condemn others for not keeping it, then act insulting and belittling to fellow brothers who are sincerely seeking truth.
@Denemoore Yes I'm Torah observant and there are 613 Instructions in Torah, not just 10, however you are right that they are all summed up in one word...Love (toward our Torah observant brothers/sisters). Torah instructs us to reprove those who are breaking Torah, especially brothers. For those not keeping Torah, it's Elohim who condemns them, not me. The link is at beityeshua com, it's being updated right now, but will have all videos up soon. Are you Torah observant?
@markswilson8 1)I'm not sure there is a point to responding. I'm not interested in arguing about the commodities market, as it is all over the news that commodities are spiking while oil and wine are not being effected by the same factors. in fact they are benefited.
As far as trying to put the muslims into prophecy. first i have read through several takes on that and found them to be a real stretch. Also it is predictable that folks of Jewish decent would not only claim prophecy revolves...
@markswilson8 2) around them, their history, and of course that their arch rival, the muslims, are the condemned in prophecy. Now I certainly see them having their part in prophecy, but rev 6:8 calls this horse "hunger". it is a literal "hunger" because food is too expensive. And the western world is using this strategy to starve out the arabs. So pd basically has it completely backwards. the arabs are the victim of the black horse, not the other way around..... i look forward to your insults.
@Denemoore It's funny you think it's a stretch since Scripture bears it out to the DAY, unlike the fairy tale you spin using your imagination and no truth at all. I haven't insulted you at all, just trying to get you to think. All prophecy is about IS the Land promised to Israel by YHWH, Islam and Christianity, NOT anything to do with the western world. Keep looking for 666, rapture and 7 year tribulation. Was that an insult when I asked if you were Torah observant?
@Denemoore The commodities are NOT doing what you say:
indexmundi/com/commodities/
You are totally missing the point of that part of Revelation. It is about the rise of the Muslim Empire. It starts with Muhammad on the white horse, his successors (caliphs) on the red horse, famine is the black horse (famine in the Muslim countries), and control of 1/4 of the world with the ashen horse. 1/4 of the world is Muslim and they have complete control over their people.
@Cook2430 Good for you. Is he your roofer or landscaper? I know it's not Messiah because there's no "J" in Hebrew and He was Jewish. Messiah Yeshua said in John 14:15 15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." Do you?
@Cook2430 WOW! That didn't take long for you to reduce yourself to name calling. The comment is the TRUTH if you actually cared enough to study Scripture. I answered your question, care to answer mine?
@markswilson8 i ll quote you" . It's already apparent you have no earthly idea" its not of earth what needs to be understood but of spirit. If man creates something with mind it grows like the seed of flower in to the flower and then it produces fruit and seed, wich makes a cycle, but when man creates something out of his mind some people forget that it will die someday the same as the flower, thats how you recognize the times. Where is babylon ??where is ancient egypt or ancient rome?
@Outboundz I KNOW who the beast is! I can read Scripture. There is NO doubt who it is and it isn't the "system". I bet you think "666" means something, there's a rapture and an antichrist is coming too. All christian myth. Just like wormwood. I recommend studying Scripture using Torah as your base and quit replying with incoherent sentence fragments.
@markswilson8 hollow words to fill hole's, in what day will you see the falling of stars, and on whose acount do you speak, that when i spoke to one you answered, and how do you know what i know.
I do not know you, how then is that you say you know me.
It is out of love that i wanted to tell about the beast and in refference to scripture, but i fear those who rebel against god will all wear the mark and the few who refuce will be worn out or killed.
You need to understand that the Revelation is a completely symbolic writing. It is NOT literal in it's accounts, terminology, or time frames.
Do you think we should be looking for a beast to rise out of the ocean that has ten horns and seven heads and is like a lion, bear, and leopard? The very beginning of Revelation tells us it is entirely symbolic.
Scripture is plain that the "waters" that are polluted with wormwood are the peoples of every nation and tongue. Watch the video again.
@PDMac60 i think its clear that the beast is the system we live in and wormwood means wood filled with holes, that is of no use for building, so people who follow the beast have a empty objective, but if u follow the creator of all things you live with nature and create according to nature you will understand how life is supposed to be
@Outboundz "The beast is the system we live in??" What?? "Wormwood means wood filled with holes??" "Create according to nature???" Do you just make this crap up as you go along??
The video (unlike you) is just using Scripture to interpret the symbols in Scriptural prophecy.
Your understanding seems to come from an illegal substance.
@PDMac60 you didnt now the beast is the system we live in??I ll explain and i saw a beast comming out of the sea (mutitudes of man) and the beast had great power (over what man ofcourse) If something comes out of the mutitudes of man it comes out of the mind of man.
The reason why it is called a beast is because it is death thing that not listen to reasoning and because of the size, and scripture says "come out of her oh yea people that yea may not take part in the wrath of god"
@PDMac60 if you want to know more specific just ask, moses also freed the people of ancient egypt from a slave system thats what i am saying, that we again are slaves.
@PDMac60 nature is gods way too manifests life.I will make a vid about the beast if you want but i dont think it will help you, because you will follow the system(money) rather then what created you (nature) the creator, but he will be and the wicked will fall
@Outboundz The Bible and Torah (The Old Testament in the Bible) says the Beast is a person and three nation. the person is the Anti-Christ and one of the nations is returning Roman Empire. The Bible also says the Anti-Christ will rule as the last Roman Emperor And well people are slaves to their money because thats what they work for, thats what enslaves them, God wants us to be Workers but not for an Object, he wants us to work jobs that we enjoy so that we'll look forward to our Job
@yuffiefan750 You are preaching pure fable. You do not reference Scripture verses because your mythological Anti-Christ and "returning Roman Empire" do not exist in Scriptural prophecy. Scriptures do not say "the Beast is a person.." You are reciting worn-out delusion from decrepit con artists.
You been sucking too much on the wormwood teat... Read Scripture for yourself instead of relying on Hal Lindsay and Jack Van Impe idiocy. (You need to learn what "Torah" means too...)
@Outboundz another thing I forgot the Bible also predicts Nuclear war 3 and a half years into the Tribulation with Persia(Iran), and Russia as allies against Israel both countries(Iran and Russia) want Israel destroyed but God says what you say you'll do to Israel he'll do to you and they want to destroy Israel with nuclear weapons this could mean on of three thing their nuclear weapons get highjacked and hit them(Iran and Russia) instead of Israel, two their nuke go off before launch or Isr...
@yuffiefan750 "Nukes?" Really?? You see nukes in the Bible? And Russia? omg.. More Jack Van Impe lunacy. Please take your retarded misinterpretations of Ezekiel 38 and 39 elsewhere...
@PDMac60 the bible says the enemies of Israel's flesh will burn/melt off before they hit the ground and by the way that's exactly what happens to people who are hit by a nuclear explosion and I'm getting this from John heggie (One of the preachers on TBN and other Christian TV) not how ever your talking about and the thing about nuclear war is from revelations not Ezekiels and Russia was not always Russia or the Soviet Union originally they were tribes that were enemies of Israel
@PDMac60 ok I forgot what books those scriptures were in two if watched TBN you would see that everything they talk about is in Bible and through out history three John heggie gives about two third of his money way four your just like allot people that just like criticize the rich you can either criticize the eagles(the rich and famous) or let them teach you how to fly(become rich or famous) so shut the hell up and don't respond to this comment because I'm not going to respond back.
@yuffiefan750 Can you read? Just curious. He wasn't criticizing wealth, he was criticizing John Hagee because he's a wormwood filled anti-Semitic liar. By the way, you can always tell when someone has no idea what they're talking about, they run away like a scared little child....YOU. Respond back, maybe you'll learn something.
@markswilson8 first off I fear nothing not death, not the devil or his fallen Angel, not the end of the world, and definitely not us humans. only the only fear I have is respect and love for The Lord Jesus, God the father, and The holy spirit. Second we should stop fighting about this our fighting is just the Devil turning us against each other were doing his work and we should stop it. I'm just ending this argument I'm not running just trying to make peace.
@yuffiefan750 Messiah says in John 14:15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. Do you? It seems pretty clear from your response you are hung up in the pagan wormwood spewed by the church and TBN. Again, if you love Messiah, do you keep his Commandments?
@yuffiefan750 I don't care where Hagee puts his money. I doubt he gives that much to "charity" that doesn't come back to benefit himself. He (and ALL of the hucksters on TBN) get their money through extortion and fear-mongering through false teaching. Hagee last reported his income in 2001. It was $1.25 million (OMG!). People who give money to those charlatans are blind fools. It's sad and pathetic.
The "eagles" are the "rich and famous?" LOL!! Puh-leezzzz... Show me THAT Scripture..
@PDMac60 I know I said I wouldn't respond but this time I'm telling that the thing I said about the rich is not in scripture is something God actually told my father you can criticize the rich or you can let them teach you how to you how to become rich and the Roman empire prophecy is in denials it says the iron(the strongest) empire will return through the toes half made of steal and the other half made of clay in the end of days. Also now I'm not going to respond to you and this time I mean it
@yuffiefan750 "Something God actually told (your) father?" Sheesh. It's difficult to argue with those to whom God has allegedly "talked to." Regardless, the way to "become rich" should never be to extort and scare the ignorant masses by distorting and false teaching of the Scripture.
The "Roman Empire prophecy?" Are you talking about the iron (not "steal" (sic)) mixed with clay in Daniel 2? That is more ridiculous pablum spewed by false teachers. That is NOT about the Roman Empire. Sorry...
@PDMac60 Okay I agree with you that people shouldn't try become rich by scaring them or distorting scripture in fact I don't like talking about the end of days or the tribulation also forget that I ever said I wont respond that was from when I had double mind Thank the lord that he helped me to remove it over the past few days starting from a pray at Bible study Thursday also I don't fear the end of days I just don't like to talk It's just my mind always use to jump to that topic
@yuffiefan750 John Hagee is a money-grubbing moron. TBN?? ROFL!! Oh my gosh... They are blatant frauds straight from the looney bin. Give them more of your money...
The misapplied and misinterpreted alleged prophecy concerning Russia DOES come from those chapters in Ezekiel. The alleged nuclear war prophecy comes from Zechariah 14, not Revelation (no "s" there, sorry).
Show me where Scripture says Russia was an ancient enemy of Israel. (Good luck with that Skippy...)
The judgement of wormwood- poisonous waters to drink is simple but this went off on another tangent completely and don't understand. The bible is pretty plain it's talking about the water to drink and this suggests the 1/3 is people or Christians doesnt make sense.
...i said what i said. now go ahead and ban me. i noticed pdmac60 always has the last word when there involved in a disagreement, just scrolling through the pages of posts, must be theyre video. if you didnt want questions, opinions, or debate. you shouldnt have left the comments open when you uploaded your video. because you look like a poor sport. which does absolutely nothing for your argument. lol. so the the floor is yours..... take it away pdmac60!
@Fledge110 "...i said what i said. now go ahead and ban me." Okay.. If you insist....
But the only reason you were removed is because you are not bringing up points of debate or argument. You are just blathering with "Dude!" "Calm down..." "You are judging others.." "You are a poor sport" "My mommy says you're wrong..." etc... Quit whining....
have U ever thought of it like this. the day & age we live in 2day is soo far away from the way things were back in jesus time. correct? the fact that people are trying to get closer & re understand the bible from a different way than they were taught & or currently understand. this shows alot, making descent attempts by our standards atleast. now, jesus is forgiving, dont think it goes un noticed. all n all, understand this. we are ALL going to be judged, its not your place to do so for them.
@Fledge110 Calm down "dude." I am merely stating the words that everyone will be judged by (Torah), whether you like it or not.
"Jesus is forgiving", eh? "Jesus" is not even the name of Messiah. That is another false construct by Christianity. Go with your assumption that "Jesus" (whoever that turns out to be) is all forgiving and nothing else matters. Keep riding that bus. Good luck with that.
Christians have difficulty understanding Scripture because they ignore the Torah.
chernobyl? russian translation is wormwood. & the imagery of the blast & radioactive fallout that effected large surrounding areas, rivers & water sources. but the last 2 being harder to tie into the prophecy as cleanly as the 1st. though they make for interesting comparisons. but the speculation of the 2012 hype & a near earth pass from a celestial body coming from orions constellation would better fit the discription given in revelations. doest the bible say that no one will know when either?
@JDVowellJr You are kidding, right? Did you not watch the video? It uses Scripture and plainly shows that wormwood is Christianity, not some outdated defunct nuke facility. "Interesting comparisons??" LOL!! "A near earth pass from a celestial body coming from orions constellation?" ROFL!! OMG! WHAT??
What wormwood denomination are you? Revelation is a symbolic book that uses symbols that are openly used in the Tanakh. But go with your silly Russian crap and constellations if you want.
@PDMac60 dude! calm down. im sure your positive the western hemisphere is gonna die from a gamma ray burst and poisend food from the lands and waters. you go with that. and fullfill has many comparable meaning... to accomplish, achieve, complete, realize, execute, discharge, observe, meet, answer, fill, comply with, end, terminate, & conclude. as the video goes on to say pretty much is that you have to make a real attempt to try and live by god and jesus word. thats how i interpret it.
@JDVowellJr LOL!! "Dude!" (I know I am dealing with major intelligentsia when I see that...) Calm down... I never said anything about gamma rays and "poisend" nuke plants meaning anything. YOU did, remember? You go with that...
The video shows that Scriptures says that Christianity is wormwood because it ignores the Instructions of the Father. You are the one with the Lord of the Rings mentality, "dude."
@PDMac60 really, heres another example of your quick to judgement! your crazy dude. your looking more and more crazier with these mindless aggressive verbal attacks. take a deep breath. take a step out of your box and try to not be soo hard headed and be more open minded, people interpretations change over time. but they change because they are studying the word. which is good! think about it. i find it very admirable and refreshing to see people trying to understand. you on the other hand!
@PDMac60 to me this video is basically saying that you just cant say you believe in jesus and not follow any of the laws of god or make any attempt to become better in following his laws, and just saying jesus forgives me cause i asked him too.... you should calm down a bit. you misread my post like all the "wormwood star" "wormwood/chernobyl" people. thing is, i was just saying its kinda interesting that wormwood = chernobyl in russian, wormwood is also betalgeuse in orion constellation. rofl
@JDVowellJr The video illustrates that Christianity does not follow the righteousness of the Father as defined in Scripture. It is not about some vague reference of making "an attempt to become better" as you stated. Don't get upset. I am just trying to help you.
BTW, the majority of the free world knows that chernobyl means wormwood in the Russian language. I think that silly tidbit of Christian trivia made it's rounds before you were born.
@PDMac60 it seems like U started the argument, oh holy one. that person never said they believed in any of the above mentioned. they were just pointing out things that are going around. looking @ the way U try to use all those acronyms like ur above them with your "omg" "rofl" "lmao" were U the kid who went home cuz he couldnt have it his way? just saying because of the way ur acting in this silly argument. ur not a good representative 4 god or jesus with your judgements. atleast theyre trying.
@Fledge110 LOL!! (Handing you a kleenex...) It's okay.. Calm down man.. I am just pointing out the ludicrousness of your argument.
It is rather entertaining that you log on in a different name and then compliment your alter ego. (Someone has to...)
The video demonstrates that Scripture says your beliefs are wormwood. It upsets you. I understand. I would expect you to do everything and anything to change that.
part 2....waters "bitter" or poisoned. The oceans evaporate into the clouds producing our drinking water. It that script possibly mean this? Time will tell. they deny there is "incoming" heavenly bodies....but soon the truth will be seen with the naked eye. That is my take on it...but I could be wrong. I enjoyed the video.
I just watched a video about the "alledged" comet elenin. It had an article that said it smelled like bitter almonds, I think a probe was sent through it's tail to get this data..it was found to have hydrogen cyanide...cyanide does produce this smell. I was linking wormwood in a scientific way with elenin. The script mentioned wormwood would make a 1/3rd of the waters bitter and killed those that drank it. Is it possible that elenin (maybe wormwood) would crash into the oceans making the....
also i believe the Lord did speak of the Father sending the Holy Spirit who would abide in us "Jesus in your heart".... we in Christ... W\ho will ultimately give the Kingdom back to the Father...And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
truth.... sound teaching.... rightly dividing the word.... i still feel the prophecy will manifest in the aspect of a literal star... Christ taught of the Spirit of the Law... (don't even think about it..)
Just to clarify, God's law is not the Old Testament alone but fully explained only in the new testament esp. in Matt 5:21-48.
Further, Abraham did not followed the sabbath, yet God said in Gen 26:5 "... because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws."
Note that God's law does not include Sabbath.
Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.".
@FelixJeyareuben LOL!! Where do you get this nonsense? Where does Yeshua say "the Law is fully explained in the New Testament?" He says no such thing in Matthew 5. In that whole section He is merely quoting the Tanakh. Sorry..
Where do the Scriptures say that Abraham did not follow the Sabbath? Show me the passage. The Sabbath was instituted at Creation and the Scripture you quoted plainly states that Abraham was fully obedient to Torah. You whacko antinomians are so damn lame...
Therefore the law was our tutor [to bring us] to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
@FelixJeyareuben I know it well. Like most lame Christians, you are quick to let your misinterpretations of a letter written by a man abrogate the very Words of the Father. The Greek word for "faith" is the Greek word "pistis" which is much better translated as "faithfulness." The Greek word for "tutor" is better translated as "babysitter."
We should no longer need a babysitter when the Spirit of the Father is within us to grant us faithfulness to His Instructions. That's the New Covenant.
@PDMac60 You said, you no longer require a babysitter. Can you please read that verse again and let me know who is this babysitter which is not required.
@FelixJeyareuben It doesn't say "not required" moron.. It says the "need" for the babysitter is not there. That is because if you are truly one of His (which you obviously are not), His Torah will be written on your heart and mind and you will know it. Look up the definition of the New Covenant using Scripture instead of your drunken dogma of antinomianism.
@FelixJeyareuben ROFL!! I am just being honest.. You show a classic lack of understanding and ability to reason.
I already explained about the babysitter. Look up the New Covenant in Scripture. One will no longer have to tell his neighbor "know Elohim" because all His people will know Him (you don't). To know Him means to follow His Torah.
But you just mock His Word. Good luck with that.
Yeshua is speaking of those among their own people. NOT about those who want them dead.
@PDMac60 Unfortunately, the scripture does not say that and you simply twist.
Gal 3:25 and the faith having come, no more under a child-conductor are we, (YLT)
Let me know what do mean by "we are no longer under a tutor" and the scripture says, the law is this tutor. Why do you refuse to accept a simple verse? Because it doesn't fit your belief?
@FelixJeyareuben You still did not address the issue. The Sabbath was instituted at creation (look it up). Elohim said that Abraham was obedient to His commandments, statutes, and Torah. Elohim didn't tell Abraham not to murder anyone or not to commit adultery either. Therefore prohibitions against murder and adultery are not in God's Law either, right?
You are like arguing with toddler. It is difficult to reason with a toddler. Or is it just that you are drunk on that wormwood, maybe??
@PDMac60 Ok, God rested on the 7th day. But Sabbath wasn't instituted at creation. Does scripture say that? But I can prove we are still on the 6th day. Father is always working and NEVER rested and Son broke the Sabbath according to John 5:17-18. Hebrews 4:3 also tells us about entering into God's REST.
Since, 7th day is yet to happen and I will be resting on the Sabbath with Christ in His marriage as His bride, I don't have to take rest now since, God haven't not yet rested on the 7th day.
@FelixJeyareuben LOL!! Whatever.. Keep ignoring His Torah lil boy. That'll get you places...
You attempt to negate the plain Words of the Father with your misinterpretations. You claim that your "Jesus" (not Yeshua) was a sinner and a lawbreaker. In other words, you claim Jesus was a criminal in the Father's eyes.
Good luck with that...
But Yeshua "never" broke the Sabbath. Just the false Jesus that you follow.. It was never a sin to help others on the Sabbath..
@FelixJeyareuben The priests work on the Sabbath because it is their job to do so. They conducted Temple offerings and service on the Sabbath. Yeshua was explaining that there are things that people SHOULD do on the Sabbath in service to Elohim, including doing good for others.
All you want in Scripture is to abrogate the words of the Father. Even though Scripture plainly states that His Words are forever.
You did not answer the Scriptures I gave about that. Show where the Father is wrong.
@FelixJeyareuben Show me in Scripture where it says "the seventh day is yet to happen..." Puh-leeez... You are definitely drunk on your wormwood.
Ignore the Sabbath Day and all of His Torah. I don't care what you do.. But when you attempt to drag others into your sin and lawlessness, I will deride you and your convoluted reasoning..
@FelixJeyareuben LOL! I was waiting for you to post that one. You just exploded your own pathetic reasoning..
(Heb 4:9 NASB) There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
The Greek word for "rest" is "sabbaton" which means that there DOES remain the Sabbath rest for His people. That very passage you quoted states that we are to keep His Sabbath just as He did at creation.
Keep mocking His Word and stating how His Instructions are worthless and foolish.
@FelixJeyareuben (Gen 2:2 NASB) And by the seventh day God completed His work which He had done; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
(Gen 2:3 NASB) Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
The Father never rested?? Really?? Whatever..
Elohim "sanctified" the seventh day at creation. Do you know what that means? (Probably not...)
@FelixJeyareuben "God's Law does not include the Sabbath..." ROFL!! Whatever... Keep sipping on your wormwood teats on Sunday mornings...
In your lame Galatians quote, the Greek word for "fulfilled" is "ple-roo." It merely means to "make full." The Torah of the Father is made full in "love," yes. But not in ignorance. Sorry....
So if thats the third trumpet.. How would you interpret the first two?? All the while. remember.. this is during the "great tribulation". I guess thats why I have always thought it to be very literal.. But I will say, I like your video! =)
@justinshafer817 I just noticed your comment or else I would have said something sooner. All of the trumpets are easily interpreted, just not by Christianity. If this trumpet is even somewhat interpreted correctly (which it is...), then Christianity is too drunk with wormwood to have understanding. It is the common teachings on prophecy (and all of Scripture) that are in grave error.
@angicsimon67 LOL!!! All the verses in the video are accurate and precise to Scripture. That is EXACTLY what it means! If you are a disobedient sun god worshiper don't bother praying at all. Proverbs 28:9 He who turns away his ear from listening to the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination. There are several more like that one, but I know how you folks like to phrase pluck and disregard the many verses that support Torah. You know, like those that describe Wormwood.
@angicsimon67 I read Jeremiah 9: 13-15 and if you let Scripture define Scripture, that's exactly what it means. It isn't bent at all in the video. Well done wormwoodrevelation!
@markswilson8 If you read further on on verse 16, you will discover that the wormwood mentioned in verse 15 is one of the punishment God declared on the people. Scripture never defined it as what was portrayed in the video highlighting the verses 13 and 14.If you still insist, then I can only pray for you.
Wormwood is NOT defined as the desire to do away with God's laws (Old Testament) and follow one's heart as stated in your video.Please read the verses Jeremiah 9: 13-15 carefully and not bend it to say what it does not say.
@anglcsimon67 You drank too much wormwood. That passage in Jeremiah is just one. There are others as well.
(Deu 29:18-19) lest there shall be among you a man or woman...., whose heart turns away today from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of those nations; lest there shall be among you a root bearing poisonous fruit and wormwood. "And it shall be when he hears the words of this curse, that he will boast, saying, 'I have peace though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart....'
@anglcsimon67 . Don't even entertain these bozos, for they are one and the same! Literally! PDMac60 and his alter ego markswilson8. When you bring him the truth of the Word of God, he can't handle it, and resorts to a two pronged attack of abuse. The guy's a demoniac and needs deliverance. The trouble is, he ain't getting any at his Torah club.
@Faithlikeachild777 The little weasel that likes to mock God and run away is back. Isn't that cute? Call the Torah demonic? Really??? Keep drinking the WORMWOOD little child. Run back to your safe touchy, feely place where everyone thinks you are so special because you tickle their ears......LIAR!
When comet Wormwood enters the earth’s atmosphere it will not burn, it will melt. And, as it goes directly from a solid to a gas, it will release into the earth’s atmospheric deadly gases - gives the water a bitter taste, and it causes many who drink the water to die - hydrogen cyanide for one
SabreH1 3 weeks ago
@SabreH1 Nowhere in Scripture does it say anything about a comet. However, it does plainly show that it is Christianity......
markswilson8 3 weeks ago
@SabreH1 Seriously?? Whatever...
wormwoodrevelation 3 weeks ago
Amos 8:11 Behold, the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD.
SabreH1 3 weeks ago
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markswilson8 1 month ago
@donsteigerwald So in your little pagan world when Messiah died you can now act in anyway you want with no fear of punishment because He fulfilled the Law? Scripture says He did not come to abolish the Law, but to "fulfill". That fulfill means to "confirm" or "make full", NOT do away with.
Messiah only came for the lost sheep of the house of Israel, NOT the New Testament church. Sorry....
markswilson8 1 month ago
@donsteigerwald You are NOT delivered from "lawlessness/iniquity" if you continute in "lawlessness/iniquity." Even if you feel good about your "lawlessness/iniquity." Sorry.. Good luck with that..
If the Torah of the Father is written on your heart, you will follow it. Why don't you??
More wormwood... Another prime example....
wormwoodrevelation 1 month ago
@markswilson8 @markswilson8 Titus 2:12 -14Teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly, in this present world; Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
donsteigerwald 1 month ago
@markswilson8 At least you recognize that I am a Christian. What are you?
donsteigerwald 1 month ago
Many will come to me on that Day and say Lord Lord have we not DONE...
By the works of the law NO MAN shall be justified.
We are saved by Grace , through trusting in, relying upon, clinging to Jesus.
You search the scriptures for jn THEM you think you have eternal life, but THEY are that which testify of Me.
You have read into revelation , meaning that was not indicated there. While the truth is that we will ALL be judged by our works, NONE of us will be saved or delivered from death by them.
donsteigerwald 1 month ago
@donsteigerwald Mat 7:21 "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter.
Mat 7:22 "Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?'
Mat 7:23 "And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'
markswilson8 1 month ago
@donsteigerwald Phrase plucking is a Christian classic. Keep it in context. Any idea what "lawlessness" means?
markswilson8 1 month ago
@donsteigerwald More Christian phrase-plucking blather... You think you are saved by the graciousness of the Father and therefore you should be as disobedient to His commands as possible.
What a loser. More wormwood..
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@mdsv11 Once again, you are merely reading what you want INTO the partial passages you are referring to. They do not state anything remotely close to what the rapture dogma claims. It ain't there. Sorry....
Try thinking for yourself instead of listening to the Sunday morning clowns that spoon feed you the wormwood pablum.
PDMac60 2 months ago
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PDMac60 2 months ago
Revelations 3 verse 3, 1 Thessalonians 4 verse 17, 2 Peter 3 verse 10, Matthrew 24 verse 42, Jude 1 verse 23. These Scriptures Mention the Rapture.
mdsv11 2 months ago
Revelations 3 verse 3 Go back to what you heard and believed at first; hold to it firmly. Repent and turn to me again. If you dont wake up, I will come to you suddenly, as unexpected thief. 1 Thessaloninas 4 verse 17 Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on earth will be Caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. 2 Peter verse 10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief. Then the heavens will pass terrible noise, and the element will disappear in fire.
mdsv11 2 months ago
@mdsv11 Sorry.. None of the phrases you plucked from the NT say anything about a "rapture." They are speaking of His return at the resurrection. You would see that if you read the entire passages and didn't pluck a phrase from the middle. I know this ridiculous dispensational dogma better than you.
It says nothing about Yeshua taking Christians out of the world before He judges it. You are drinking too much wormwood on Sunday mornings. Good luck with that.
PDMac60 2 months ago
@PDMac60 Its there plain and simple reading if you Cant understand it then thats your problem...
mdsv11 2 months ago
@mdsv11 LOL!! Really?? Not a single one of those verses say a single word about a "rapture." You are dreaming! A couple of those verses you referenced speak of His return at the resurrection and in judgment. But none of them say He will "Star Trek up" the happy lil' ignorant Christians before He gets mad at the rest of the world.
Once again, it is all smoke and mirrors. Good luck with that. More wormwood..
PDMac60 2 months ago
@mdsv11 The imagined "rapture" was concocted by an agenda. It was derived from contorting a few phrases from Scripture and playing upon the false hopes, dreams, and emotions of many Christians. It has absolutely no basis in Scripture. It is all smoke and mirrors..
PDMac60 2 months ago
The Rapture happens in Revelations 3 so if Revelation 8 happens theres No Christians in God Wrath...
mdsv11 2 months ago
@mdsv11 LOL!! There is a "rapture" in Revelation 3?? Really?? Where?? Only in your imagination. There is NO "rapture" in Scripture whatsoever. The ridiculous "rapture" is a fabricated concept that appeals to the gullible Christian masses who think they are too special to be judged and who refuse to think for themselves.
Keep drinking the Sunday morning wormwood...
PDMac60 2 months ago
@mdsv11 You're kidding right? I hate to tell you , but Scripture directly points out that Christians are going to be in the cross hairs of God's wrath for there proud disobedience. You may want to quit patting yourself on the back and study Scripture a little more, because you are riding the wormwood train. You won't like the destination.
markswilson8 2 months ago
@markswilson8 God's gonna Rapture his Church and his Believers. Theres gonna be people, the Mockers and others that heard the Gospels of Jesus But Didnt believe that made fun and Change their Minds once the Rapture happen. Left Behind are the one that Believe but they have to go through God's Wrath and Refuse the Mark of the Beast...
mdsv11 2 months ago
@mdsv11 You are truly a moronic mental midget. You don't even understand Messiah or His Name. There is NO rapture. The term is NEVER mentioned in Scripture. There's NO anti-christ EVER mentioned in prophecy and the only people left behind will be those, like you, who suck up the wormwood and are disobedient to the Word of God. REPENT FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND! That is the gospel! Has been since the beginning of time.
markswilson8 2 months ago
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@markswilson8 God's gonna Rapture his Church and his Believers. Theres gonna be people, the Mockers and others that heard the Gospels of Jesus But Didnt believe that made fun and Change their Minds once the Rapture happen. Left Behind are the one that Believe but they have to go through God's Wrath and Refuse the Mark of the Beast...
mdsv11 2 months ago
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@markswilson8 God's gonna Rapture his Church and his Believers. Theres gonna be people, the Mockers and others that heard the Gospels of Jesus But Didnt believe that made fun and Change their Minds once the Rapture happen. Left Behind are the one that Believe but they have to go through God's Wrath and Refuse the Mark of the Beast...
mdsv11 2 months ago
watch BLOOD MOONS AND SOLAR ECLIPSES. this video is stupid a true CHRISTIAN isnt worried about the trumpets or plagues since we will be gone, dont believe nasa about planet x or watever they wana name whatever they say might hit us
acerv36 2 months ago
@acerv36 Really? That's what you got from the video? It's obvious to see that you are filled with wormwood. By the way, there is NO rapture even hinted at in Scripture. Christians don't get a free pass. Scripture tells us they aren't the solution, but a BIG part of the problem.
markswilson8 2 months ago
@acerv36 You apparently didn't watch the video, moron. This video said nothing about your planet x or whatever you are whining about. Your ranting helps prove the identity of wormwood spoken of in this video.
No thanks on your silly blue moon video or whatever it is. Not interested. More fake Christian pablum. Your rapture myth only exists in your wild and vivid imagination. Keep listening to your lying preachers and entertainers.
PDMac60 2 months ago
Is it just a coinscidence that in the Ukrainian Language, Chernobyl means mugroot or wild wormwood? Now in 2 Esdras 5 (was considered Apocrypha, why - this example matches Rev.) "But if The Most High grant thee to live, thou shalt see after the Third Trumpet..." and further, the clincher, in verse 7:
7 And the Sodomitish sea shall cast out fish (AIDS), and make a noise in the night, which many have not known: but they shall all hear the voice thereof.
Please note this was ALL in 1986.
themanningsjdsjjj 3 months ago
@themanningsjdsjjj Really?? Yawwwwnnn.. So fish is AIDS and Chernobyl means mugroot? Yeah, you really rocked the world with those tidbits of information. You are officially a "kook."
And I saw the anti-Semitic crap on your page. More nonsensical tripe. And I don't put up with that. You are blocked..
PDMac60 3 months ago
I absolutely agree with the principal of this video, however I have a hard time accepting the symbolic representation of waters for people, as " waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters(people?), because they were made bitter. "
-men died from drinking people?
I'd stick with God allowing an asteroid or something that poisons literal water. When mankind rejects Gods law, He withdraws His protection, and this is one of the results.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore The passage does not say that the waters drank waters. It says that wormwood fell upon the waters and a third of the waters became wormwood. A third of the people became wormwood, which is lawless Christianity. They died because they were made bitter to the Torah. The symbolism fits perfectly.
Are you looking for an asteroid and a seven-headed, ten-horned beast to rise up out of those waters that are made bitter? Sounds like Godzilla destroying Tokyo.
No, it's all symbolic.
PDMac60 3 months ago
@PDMac60 I understand your point. It does fit well. But I don't rely on the argument that because some things in revelation are symbolic that everything must be symbolic. In my video on the black horse of revelation I show the problem with getting too carried away with symbolism. If you take the time to watch the first few minutes of this, you'll see a very different approach to understanding symbolism. I also must accept that there are different layers to prophecy. "I call my son out of egypt
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore Everything in Revelation is symbolic. The timeframes given are symbolic also. But they can all be understood. All of the symbols in Revelation are clarified in the Tanakh (Old Testament).
There will not be a "devastating meteor shower" as you say could be a possibility. There is NOT going to be a "New World Order" as Christians myth speaks of. Left Behind is terrible fictional delusion. Christianity rejects Torah and totally misunderstands Scripture.
PDMac60 3 months ago
@PDMac60 Don't group me with pre trib christians who reject the Torah. If you watched my video you would know not to do that. no new world order? there will be 10 kings who give their authority to her who have had not authority as of yet. And since revelation has already begun to be fulfilled literally, you might want to reconsider your view.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore I didn't say you reject Torah. I said Christianity does. And you interpret prophecy the same way they do, which is horribly incorrect. Christianity misinterprets Scripture in every way, including prophecy. No, there will NOT be ten kings that blah, blah (It's already happened.). There will not be a "new world order." That's all Jack Van Impe idiocy. Tell me what in Revelation has "literally" been fulfilled. Good luck with that.
You might want to reconsider YOUR view..
PDMac60 3 months ago
@PDMac60 I don't interpret prophecy the same way, you would have to watch a few minutes of my black horse video to understand that I share nothing in common. Prophecy is being perfectly fulfilled in a literal futuristic way. You might want to reconsider that prophecy fulfills in multiple ways. the chief fulfilment is the one that is about to happen. Just like "I called my son out of Egypt" was fulfilled with Israel, but literally fulfilled when Jesus was literally called out of Egypt.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore Once again, show me something in Revelation that has been literally fulfilled. You can't do it because it doesn't exist. Revelation is symbolic. Period. Prophecy does not have multiple fulfillments. That passage in Hosea that was quoted by Matthew was ONLY prophecy for Yeshua. It was NOT prophecy for Israel. It was a historical fact for Israel at that time prophesying of Messiah.
I don't want to watch any more of your videos. What I have already seen was painful enough..
PDMac60 3 months ago
@PDMac60 I'de encourage you to watch my video on the black horse of revelation. The horsemen, are currently being fulfilled literally, just as verse 6:8 states. For example, the only 2 commodities that are not becoming expensive are Olive Oil and Wine. while all the other commodities like wheat,barley, rice etc are going up by up to 90%.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore I took the time to watch your video on the horseman. I have to tell you, since idiots like LaHaye and Van Impe, I have never seen such a butchering of Scripture. Just as Torah answers the questions on how one should live, it also is the key to prophecy. First, you have NO idea what Scripture points to as the Abomination of Desolation and since you so horribly miss that, the rest of your diatribe is false. You really need to drop the christian dogma.........
markswilson8 3 months ago
@markswilson8 i didn't go into too much detail on the topic of the abomination of desolation on that video. I just showed the principal of how it works. Any time a person knowingly rejects truth or God, God must allow that which they worship to protect them. God must turn their back on them, and hence destruction or desolation comes. This is the basis of the sanctification aspect of the Gospel. The point of this video was not to pinpoint abomination/s that occurred in the past
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore I understand that wasn't the point of your video, however I can tell by the little that you did mention you have NO clue what you are talking about. Until you use Torah as your reference point, you will continue to miss the mark in ALL your prophecy. There were several other points (to numerous to mention in this forum) where you are simply spouting the same old worn out christian dogma. If you want to understand anything in Scripture, start with Torah.
markswilson8 3 months ago
@markswilson8 I have a very good understanding of Torah. Prophecy has more dimension to it than either of us may ever understand. take the "i call my son out of egypt example. First fulfilled as God called His people out of egypt. Then again fulfilled literally as Jesus was called out of egypt. you have lessons that people draw out of prophecy, aspects of the gospel, layers of the great controversy, type/anti-type These points often don't contradict. Some do not represent a literal fulfilment.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore Really? I don't see it in your study. Since you're a little slow on the uptake I'll quote pdmac60, "That passage in Hosea that was quoted by Matthew was ONLY prophecy for Yeshua. It was NOT prophecy for Israel. It was a historical fact for Israel at that time prophesying of Messiah." Your whole premise is so flawed it is hilarious. You have the 4 horsemen messed up, the A of D is messed up. Here's a little hint, the USA & Canada are not mentioned in prophecy at all.
markswilson8 3 months ago
@markswilson8 yes that is my point that prophecy is fulfilled symbolically. israel spiritually represents the messiah. so one mention of the prophecy is symbolic while the other is literal. My study is to show that the 4 horsemen are being fulfilled literally, and as we speak, they are. the A of D principal i showed is backed up in many ways through scripture. This principal is the most important aspect to understand in prophecy. it is all throughout torah. The Law is the foundation of this.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore Again, your butchering of Revelation proves absolutely nothing except you make the same mistakes as the church. Prophecy is proved to the DATE when using Torah and the TaNak as a whole. When using those tools, Scripture supports Scripture. Your way, Scripture does not prove anything, because you are using your "feelings and preconceived beliefs" and spinning Scripture to make your point, just like Christianity as a whole. I can prove it, but you want to teach, not learn.
markswilson8 3 months ago
@markswilson8 2)they are the focal point of prophecy. I believe the messianic community is almost as guilty of this as the christian community.One good example of prophetic type in the Torah is in the story of Joseph, who intentionally hid his identity from the 12 brother/tribes of Israel until they had proven their character was changed, and were ready to repent of persecuting Joseph/the messiah.The clues were there that He was their brother but they were blind to them until they repented.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@markswilson8 1)my goal is to come together and find others who have dedicated time to studying prophecy and see what we can learn from each other. I also believe that that most people use an egocentric approach to interpreting prophecy in that they believe their church, country or ...
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore That was so nonsensical I almost feel asleep. We have figured prophecy out simply using the TaNaK. Hint, it's not that difficult. The messianic community IS guilty of a lot the Christians do and makes me happy I don't claim that label either. If you really want to learn something REAL, I can direct you to some REAL videos with meat, not news clips and you crushing Revelation to death.
markswilson8 3 months ago
@markswilson8 yah link me some. but i find your attitude interesting for one who stands for the law of God. The 10 commandments is the scientific spiritual law of love, just as the law of thermodynamics refers to heat and energy. It works in a cause and effect principal just as any other law of science.
-you can't claim to stand for the law of love while, condemn others for not keeping it, then act insulting and belittling to fellow brothers who are sincerely seeking truth.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore Yes I'm Torah observant and there are 613 Instructions in Torah, not just 10, however you are right that they are all summed up in one word...Love (toward our Torah observant brothers/sisters). Torah instructs us to reprove those who are breaking Torah, especially brothers. For those not keeping Torah, it's Elohim who condemns them, not me. The link is at beityeshua com, it's being updated right now, but will have all videos up soon. Are you Torah observant?
markswilson8 3 months ago
@Denemoore Why haven't you answered pdmac60's last post to you? Just curious?
markswilson8 3 months ago
@markswilson8 1)I'm not sure there is a point to responding. I'm not interested in arguing about the commodities market, as it is all over the news that commodities are spiking while oil and wine are not being effected by the same factors. in fact they are benefited.
As far as trying to put the muslims into prophecy. first i have read through several takes on that and found them to be a real stretch. Also it is predictable that folks of Jewish decent would not only claim prophecy revolves...
Denemoore 3 months ago
@markswilson8 2) around them, their history, and of course that their arch rival, the muslims, are the condemned in prophecy. Now I certainly see them having their part in prophecy, but rev 6:8 calls this horse "hunger". it is a literal "hunger" because food is too expensive. And the western world is using this strategy to starve out the arabs. So pd basically has it completely backwards. the arabs are the victim of the black horse, not the other way around..... i look forward to your insults.
Denemoore 3 months ago
@Denemoore It's funny you think it's a stretch since Scripture bears it out to the DAY, unlike the fairy tale you spin using your imagination and no truth at all. I haven't insulted you at all, just trying to get you to think. All prophecy is about IS the Land promised to Israel by YHWH, Islam and Christianity, NOT anything to do with the western world. Keep looking for 666, rapture and 7 year tribulation. Was that an insult when I asked if you were Torah observant?
markswilson8 3 months ago
@Denemoore The commodities are NOT doing what you say:
indexmundi/com/commodities/
You are totally missing the point of that part of Revelation. It is about the rise of the Muslim Empire. It starts with Muhammad on the white horse, his successors (caliphs) on the red horse, famine is the black horse (famine in the Muslim countries), and control of 1/4 of the world with the ashen horse. 1/4 of the world is Muslim and they have complete control over their people.
BeitYeshua/com
PDMac60 3 months ago
I love Jesus
Cook2430 5 months ago
@Cook2430 Good for you. Is he your roofer or landscaper? I know it's not Messiah because there's no "J" in Hebrew and He was Jewish. Messiah Yeshua said in John 14:15 15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments." Do you?
markswilson8 5 months ago
@markswilson8 What kind of comment is that? Your a dumbshit.
Cook2430 5 months ago
@Cook2430 WOW! That didn't take long for you to reduce yourself to name calling. The comment is the TRUTH if you actually cared enough to study Scripture. I answered your question, care to answer mine?
markswilson8 4 months ago
@markswilson8 i ll quote you" . It's already apparent you have no earthly idea" its not of earth what needs to be understood but of spirit. If man creates something with mind it grows like the seed of flower in to the flower and then it produces fruit and seed, wich makes a cycle, but when man creates something out of his mind some people forget that it will die someday the same as the flower, thats how you recognize the times. Where is babylon ??where is ancient egypt or ancient rome?
Outboundz 5 months ago
@Outboundz I KNOW who the beast is! I can read Scripture. There is NO doubt who it is and it isn't the "system". I bet you think "666" means something, there's a rapture and an antichrist is coming too. All christian myth. Just like wormwood. I recommend studying Scripture using Torah as your base and quit replying with incoherent sentence fragments.
markswilson8 5 months ago
@Outboundz or three Israel develops atomic weapons and fires them on Iran and Russia before they get the Chance to destroy Israel
yuffiefan750 5 months ago
@markswilson8 hollow words to fill hole's, in what day will you see the falling of stars, and on whose acount do you speak, that when i spoke to one you answered, and how do you know what i know.
I do not know you, how then is that you say you know me.
It is out of love that i wanted to tell about the beast and in refference to scripture, but i fear those who rebel against god will all wear the mark and the few who refuce will be worn out or killed.
Outboundz 5 months ago
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Outboundz 5 months ago
You need to understand that the Revelation is a completely symbolic writing. It is NOT literal in it's accounts, terminology, or time frames.
Do you think we should be looking for a beast to rise out of the ocean that has ten horns and seven heads and is like a lion, bear, and leopard? The very beginning of Revelation tells us it is entirely symbolic.
Scripture is plain that the "waters" that are polluted with wormwood are the peoples of every nation and tongue. Watch the video again.
PDMac60 5 months ago
@PDMac60 i think its clear that the beast is the system we live in and wormwood means wood filled with holes, that is of no use for building, so people who follow the beast have a empty objective, but if u follow the creator of all things you live with nature and create according to nature you will understand how life is supposed to be
Outboundz 5 months ago
@Outboundz "The beast is the system we live in??" What?? "Wormwood means wood filled with holes??" "Create according to nature???" Do you just make this crap up as you go along??
The video (unlike you) is just using Scripture to interpret the symbols in Scriptural prophecy.
Your understanding seems to come from an illegal substance.
PDMac60 5 months ago
@PDMac60 yes i come up with it, i use my mind(spirit) and yes the substance is illegal jesus got crufied for it too.
Outboundz 5 months ago
@PDMac60 you didnt now the beast is the system we live in??I ll explain and i saw a beast comming out of the sea (mutitudes of man) and the beast had great power (over what man ofcourse) If something comes out of the mutitudes of man it comes out of the mind of man.
The reason why it is called a beast is because it is death thing that not listen to reasoning and because of the size, and scripture says "come out of her oh yea people that yea may not take part in the wrath of god"
Outboundz 5 months ago
@PDMac60 if you want to know more specific just ask, moses also freed the people of ancient egypt from a slave system thats what i am saying, that we again are slaves.
Outboundz 5 months ago
@PDMac60 nature is gods way too manifests life.I will make a vid about the beast if you want but i dont think it will help you, because you will follow the system(money) rather then what created you (nature) the creator, but he will be and the wicked will fall
Outboundz 5 months ago
@Outboundz The Bible and Torah (The Old Testament in the Bible) says the Beast is a person and three nation. the person is the Anti-Christ and one of the nations is returning Roman Empire. The Bible also says the Anti-Christ will rule as the last Roman Emperor And well people are slaves to their money because thats what they work for, thats what enslaves them, God wants us to be Workers but not for an Object, he wants us to work jobs that we enjoy so that we'll look forward to our Job
yuffiefan750 5 months ago
@yuffiefan750 You are preaching pure fable. You do not reference Scripture verses because your mythological Anti-Christ and "returning Roman Empire" do not exist in Scriptural prophecy. Scriptures do not say "the Beast is a person.." You are reciting worn-out delusion from decrepit con artists.
You been sucking too much on the wormwood teat... Read Scripture for yourself instead of relying on Hal Lindsay and Jack Van Impe idiocy. (You need to learn what "Torah" means too...)
PDMac60 5 months ago
@Outboundz another thing I forgot the Bible also predicts Nuclear war 3 and a half years into the Tribulation with Persia(Iran), and Russia as allies against Israel both countries(Iran and Russia) want Israel destroyed but God says what you say you'll do to Israel he'll do to you and they want to destroy Israel with nuclear weapons this could mean on of three thing their nuclear weapons get highjacked and hit them(Iran and Russia) instead of Israel, two their nuke go off before launch or Isr...
yuffiefan750 5 months ago
@yuffiefan750 "Nukes?" Really?? You see nukes in the Bible? And Russia? omg.. More Jack Van Impe lunacy. Please take your retarded misinterpretations of Ezekiel 38 and 39 elsewhere...
PDMac60 5 months ago
@PDMac60 the bible says the enemies of Israel's flesh will burn/melt off before they hit the ground and by the way that's exactly what happens to people who are hit by a nuclear explosion and I'm getting this from John heggie (One of the preachers on TBN and other Christian TV) not how ever your talking about and the thing about nuclear war is from revelations not Ezekiels and Russia was not always Russia or the Soviet Union originally they were tribes that were enemies of Israel
yuffiefan750 4 months ago
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PDMac60 4 months ago
@PDMac60 ok I forgot what books those scriptures were in two if watched TBN you would see that everything they talk about is in Bible and through out history three John heggie gives about two third of his money way four your just like allot people that just like criticize the rich you can either criticize the eagles(the rich and famous) or let them teach you how to fly(become rich or famous) so shut the hell up and don't respond to this comment because I'm not going to respond back.
yuffiefan750 4 months ago
@yuffiefan750 Can you read? Just curious. He wasn't criticizing wealth, he was criticizing John Hagee because he's a wormwood filled anti-Semitic liar. By the way, you can always tell when someone has no idea what they're talking about, they run away like a scared little child....YOU. Respond back, maybe you'll learn something.
markswilson8 4 months ago
@markswilson8 first off I fear nothing not death, not the devil or his fallen Angel, not the end of the world, and definitely not us humans. only the only fear I have is respect and love for The Lord Jesus, God the father, and The holy spirit. Second we should stop fighting about this our fighting is just the Devil turning us against each other were doing his work and we should stop it. I'm just ending this argument I'm not running just trying to make peace.
yuffiefan750 4 months ago
@yuffiefan750 Messiah says in John 14:15 “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments. Do you? It seems pretty clear from your response you are hung up in the pagan wormwood spewed by the church and TBN. Again, if you love Messiah, do you keep his Commandments?
markswilson8 4 months ago
@yuffiefan750 I don't care where Hagee puts his money. I doubt he gives that much to "charity" that doesn't come back to benefit himself. He (and ALL of the hucksters on TBN) get their money through extortion and fear-mongering through false teaching. Hagee last reported his income in 2001. It was $1.25 million (OMG!). People who give money to those charlatans are blind fools. It's sad and pathetic.
The "eagles" are the "rich and famous?" LOL!! Puh-leezzzz... Show me THAT Scripture..
PDMac60 4 months ago
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yuffiefan750 4 months ago
@PDMac60 I know I said I wouldn't respond but this time I'm telling that the thing I said about the rich is not in scripture is something God actually told my father you can criticize the rich or you can let them teach you how to you how to become rich and the Roman empire prophecy is in denials it says the iron(the strongest) empire will return through the toes half made of steal and the other half made of clay in the end of days. Also now I'm not going to respond to you and this time I mean it
yuffiefan750 4 months ago
@yuffiefan750 "Something God actually told (your) father?" Sheesh. It's difficult to argue with those to whom God has allegedly "talked to." Regardless, the way to "become rich" should never be to extort and scare the ignorant masses by distorting and false teaching of the Scripture.
The "Roman Empire prophecy?" Are you talking about the iron (not "steal" (sic)) mixed with clay in Daniel 2? That is more ridiculous pablum spewed by false teachers. That is NOT about the Roman Empire. Sorry...
PDMac60 4 months ago
@PDMac60 Okay I agree with you that people shouldn't try become rich by scaring them or distorting scripture in fact I don't like talking about the end of days or the tribulation also forget that I ever said I wont respond that was from when I had double mind Thank the lord that he helped me to remove it over the past few days starting from a pray at Bible study Thursday also I don't fear the end of days I just don't like to talk It's just my mind always use to jump to that topic
yuffiefan750 4 months ago
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@yuffiefan750 John Hagee is a money-grubbing moron. TBN?? ROFL!! Oh my gosh... They are blatant frauds straight from the looney bin. Give them more of your money...
The misapplied and misinterpreted alleged prophecy concerning Russia DOES come from those chapters in Ezekiel. The alleged nuclear war prophecy comes from Zechariah 14, not Revelation (no "s" there, sorry).
Show me where Scripture says Russia was an ancient enemy of Israel. (Good luck with that Skippy...)
PDMac60 4 months ago
The judgement of wormwood- poisonous waters to drink is simple but this went off on another tangent completely and don't understand. The bible is pretty plain it's talking about the water to drink and this suggests the 1/3 is people or Christians doesnt make sense.
ButteWhat 5 months ago
...i said what i said. now go ahead and ban me. i noticed pdmac60 always has the last word when there involved in a disagreement, just scrolling through the pages of posts, must be theyre video. if you didnt want questions, opinions, or debate. you shouldnt have left the comments open when you uploaded your video. because you look like a poor sport. which does absolutely nothing for your argument. lol. so the the floor is yours..... take it away pdmac60!
Fledge110 6 months ago
@Fledge110 "...i said what i said. now go ahead and ban me." Okay.. If you insist....
But the only reason you were removed is because you are not bringing up points of debate or argument. You are just blathering with "Dude!" "Calm down..." "You are judging others.." "You are a poor sport" "My mommy says you're wrong..." etc... Quit whining....
That is why you are being banned again.
PDMac60 6 months ago
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Outboundz 5 months ago
have U ever thought of it like this. the day & age we live in 2day is soo far away from the way things were back in jesus time. correct? the fact that people are trying to get closer & re understand the bible from a different way than they were taught & or currently understand. this shows alot, making descent attempts by our standards atleast. now, jesus is forgiving, dont think it goes un noticed. all n all, understand this. we are ALL going to be judged, its not your place to do so for them.
Fledge110 6 months ago
@Fledge110 Calm down "dude." I am merely stating the words that everyone will be judged by (Torah), whether you like it or not.
"Jesus is forgiving", eh? "Jesus" is not even the name of Messiah. That is another false construct by Christianity. Go with your assumption that "Jesus" (whoever that turns out to be) is all forgiving and nothing else matters. Keep riding that bus. Good luck with that.
Christians have difficulty understanding Scripture because they ignore the Torah.
PDMac60 6 months ago
chernobyl? russian translation is wormwood. & the imagery of the blast & radioactive fallout that effected large surrounding areas, rivers & water sources. but the last 2 being harder to tie into the prophecy as cleanly as the 1st. though they make for interesting comparisons. but the speculation of the 2012 hype & a near earth pass from a celestial body coming from orions constellation would better fit the discription given in revelations. doest the bible say that no one will know when either?
JDVowellJr 6 months ago
@JDVowellJr You are kidding, right? Did you not watch the video? It uses Scripture and plainly shows that wormwood is Christianity, not some outdated defunct nuke facility. "Interesting comparisons??" LOL!! "A near earth pass from a celestial body coming from orions constellation?" ROFL!! OMG! WHAT??
What wormwood denomination are you? Revelation is a symbolic book that uses symbols that are openly used in the Tanakh. But go with your silly Russian crap and constellations if you want.
PDMac60 6 months ago
@PDMac60 dude! calm down. im sure your positive the western hemisphere is gonna die from a gamma ray burst and poisend food from the lands and waters. you go with that. and fullfill has many comparable meaning... to accomplish, achieve, complete, realize, execute, discharge, observe, meet, answer, fill, comply with, end, terminate, & conclude. as the video goes on to say pretty much is that you have to make a real attempt to try and live by god and jesus word. thats how i interpret it.
JDVowellJr 6 months ago 2
@JDVowellJr LOL!! "Dude!" (I know I am dealing with major intelligentsia when I see that...) Calm down... I never said anything about gamma rays and "poisend" nuke plants meaning anything. YOU did, remember? You go with that...
The video shows that Scriptures says that Christianity is wormwood because it ignores the Instructions of the Father. You are the one with the Lord of the Rings mentality, "dude."
PDMac60 6 months ago
@PDMac60 really, heres another example of your quick to judgement! your crazy dude. your looking more and more crazier with these mindless aggressive verbal attacks. take a deep breath. take a step out of your box and try to not be soo hard headed and be more open minded, people interpretations change over time. but they change because they are studying the word. which is good! think about it. i find it very admirable and refreshing to see people trying to understand. you on the other hand!
Fledge110 6 months ago
@PDMac60 to me this video is basically saying that you just cant say you believe in jesus and not follow any of the laws of god or make any attempt to become better in following his laws, and just saying jesus forgives me cause i asked him too.... you should calm down a bit. you misread my post like all the "wormwood star" "wormwood/chernobyl" people. thing is, i was just saying its kinda interesting that wormwood = chernobyl in russian, wormwood is also betalgeuse in orion constellation. rofl
JDVowellJr 6 months ago
@JDVowellJr The video illustrates that Christianity does not follow the righteousness of the Father as defined in Scripture. It is not about some vague reference of making "an attempt to become better" as you stated. Don't get upset. I am just trying to help you.
BTW, the majority of the free world knows that chernobyl means wormwood in the Russian language. I think that silly tidbit of Christian trivia made it's rounds before you were born.
"Constellations???" Really??? Whatever...
PDMac60 6 months ago
@PDMac60 it seems like U started the argument, oh holy one. that person never said they believed in any of the above mentioned. they were just pointing out things that are going around. looking @ the way U try to use all those acronyms like ur above them with your "omg" "rofl" "lmao" were U the kid who went home cuz he couldnt have it his way? just saying because of the way ur acting in this silly argument. ur not a good representative 4 god or jesus with your judgements. atleast theyre trying.
Fledge110 6 months ago
@Fledge110 LOL!! (Handing you a kleenex...) It's okay.. Calm down man.. I am just pointing out the ludicrousness of your argument.
It is rather entertaining that you log on in a different name and then compliment your alter ego. (Someone has to...)
The video demonstrates that Scripture says your beliefs are wormwood. It upsets you. I understand. I would expect you to do everything and anything to change that.
Except follow the Torah of the Father...
PDMac60 6 months ago
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part 2....waters "bitter" or poisoned. The oceans evaporate into the clouds producing our drinking water. It that script possibly mean this? Time will tell. they deny there is "incoming" heavenly bodies....but soon the truth will be seen with the naked eye. That is my take on it...but I could be wrong. I enjoyed the video.
PsalmsNmyrrh 6 months ago
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I just watched a video about the "alledged" comet elenin. It had an article that said it smelled like bitter almonds, I think a probe was sent through it's tail to get this data..it was found to have hydrogen cyanide...cyanide does produce this smell. I was linking wormwood in a scientific way with elenin. The script mentioned wormwood would make a 1/3rd of the waters bitter and killed those that drank it. Is it possible that elenin (maybe wormwood) would crash into the oceans making the....
PsalmsNmyrrh 6 months ago
Bring it on! It's about time...and we all get front row seats...soon to be standing room only.
The survivors can look forward to an extended stay at Camp FEMA!
MitrBnsdrty 7 months ago 2
also i believe the Lord did speak of the Father sending the Holy Spirit who would abide in us "Jesus in your heart".... we in Christ... W\ho will ultimately give the Kingdom back to the Father...And when all things shall be subdued unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subject unto him that put all things under him, that God may be all in all.
(1Co 15:28)
Agapeforefront 7 months ago
@Agapeforefront More Wormwood...... May I suggest actually studying Scripture and a little less denominational dogma.
markswilson8 7 months ago
truth.... sound teaching.... rightly dividing the word.... i still feel the prophecy will manifest in the aspect of a literal star... Christ taught of the Spirit of the Law... (don't even think about it..)
Agapeforefront 7 months ago
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20meerkat 8 months ago
@20meerkat ROFL!!! What a mental midget.
markswilson8 8 months ago
Just to clarify, God's law is not the Old Testament alone but fully explained only in the new testament esp. in Matt 5:21-48.
Further, Abraham did not followed the sabbath, yet God said in Gen 26:5 "... because Abraham obeyed My voice and kept My charge, My commandments, My statutes, and My laws."
Note that God's law does not include Sabbath.
Gal 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, [even] in this: "You shall love your neighbor as yourself.".
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben LOL!! Where do you get this nonsense? Where does Yeshua say "the Law is fully explained in the New Testament?" He says no such thing in Matthew 5. In that whole section He is merely quoting the Tanakh. Sorry..
Where do the Scriptures say that Abraham did not follow the Sabbath? Show me the passage. The Sabbath was instituted at Creation and the Scripture you quoted plainly states that Abraham was fully obedient to Torah. You whacko antinomians are so damn lame...
PDMac60 10 months ago
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Please read Gal 3:24-25.
Therefore the law was our tutor [to bring us] to Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after faith has come, we are no longer under a tutor.
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben I know it well. Like most lame Christians, you are quick to let your misinterpretations of a letter written by a man abrogate the very Words of the Father. The Greek word for "faith" is the Greek word "pistis" which is much better translated as "faithfulness." The Greek word for "tutor" is better translated as "babysitter."
We should no longer need a babysitter when the Spirit of the Father is within us to grant us faithfulness to His Instructions. That's the New Covenant.
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60 You said, you no longer require a babysitter. Can you please read that verse again and let me know who is this babysitter which is not required.
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben It doesn't say "not required" moron.. It says the "need" for the babysitter is not there. That is because if you are truly one of His (which you obviously are not), His Torah will be written on your heart and mind and you will know it. Look up the definition of the New Covenant using Scripture instead of your drunken dogma of antinomianism.
Why don't you answer my previous questions?
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60 Ok, so, let me use your own words.
You said, the "need" for the babysitter is not there. So, who is this baby sitter from which the it's need is not there?
By the way, does the law allows you to call others moron?
The law does not say anywhere to love your ENEMIES. but JESUS CHRIST DOES !!!!
Let me know if David was born today, is it OK to kill Goliath? Now think again and let me know what is the difference and what happened?
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
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PDMac60 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben ROFL!! I am just being honest.. You show a classic lack of understanding and ability to reason.
I already explained about the babysitter. Look up the New Covenant in Scripture. One will no longer have to tell his neighbor "know Elohim" because all His people will know Him (you don't). To know Him means to follow His Torah.
But you just mock His Word. Good luck with that.
Yeshua is speaking of those among their own people. NOT about those who want them dead.
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60 Unfortunately, the scripture does not say that and you simply twist.
Gal 3:25 and the faith having come, no more under a child-conductor are we, (YLT)
Let me know what do mean by "we are no longer under a tutor" and the scripture says, the law is this tutor. Why do you refuse to accept a simple verse? Because it doesn't fit your belief?
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben And you did not answer my previous questions. Why not? Still a lil' drunk on the wormwood??
PDMac60 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben (Psa 119:89 NASB) Forever, O LORD, Thy word is settled in heaven.
(Psa 119:152 NASB) Of old I have known from Thy testimonies, That Thou hast founded them forever.
(Psa 119:160 NASB) The sum of Thy word is truth, And every one of Thy righteous ordinances is everlasting.
(Luke 16:17 NASB) "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass away than for one stroke of a letter of the Law to fail.
Show me where God is wrong here..
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60 Because God did not asked Abraham to follow Sabbath and I can't find anywhere in scripture Abraham following it.
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben You still did not address the issue. The Sabbath was instituted at creation (look it up). Elohim said that Abraham was obedient to His commandments, statutes, and Torah. Elohim didn't tell Abraham not to murder anyone or not to commit adultery either. Therefore prohibitions against murder and adultery are not in God's Law either, right?
You are like arguing with toddler. It is difficult to reason with a toddler. Or is it just that you are drunk on that wormwood, maybe??
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60 Ok, God rested on the 7th day. But Sabbath wasn't instituted at creation. Does scripture say that? But I can prove we are still on the 6th day. Father is always working and NEVER rested and Son broke the Sabbath according to John 5:17-18. Hebrews 4:3 also tells us about entering into God's REST.
Since, 7th day is yet to happen and I will be resting on the Sabbath with Christ in His marriage as His bride, I don't have to take rest now since, God haven't not yet rested on the 7th day.
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben LOL!! Whatever.. Keep ignoring His Torah lil boy. That'll get you places...
You attempt to negate the plain Words of the Father with your misinterpretations. You claim that your "Jesus" (not Yeshua) was a sinner and a lawbreaker. In other words, you claim Jesus was a criminal in the Father's eyes.
Good luck with that...
But Yeshua "never" broke the Sabbath. Just the false Jesus that you follow.. It was never a sin to help others on the Sabbath..
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60 Ha ha..
Jesus broke the Sabbath and yet sinless because priests profane the sabbath and are sinless according to Jesus and He is our High priest.
Matt 12:5 "Or have you not read in the law that on the Sabbath the priests in the temple profane the Sabbath, and are blameless?
Let me know what the priests did to profane the Sabbath?
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben The priests work on the Sabbath because it is their job to do so. They conducted Temple offerings and service on the Sabbath. Yeshua was explaining that there are things that people SHOULD do on the Sabbath in service to Elohim, including doing good for others.
All you want in Scripture is to abrogate the words of the Father. Even though Scripture plainly states that His Words are forever.
You did not answer the Scriptures I gave about that. Show where the Father is wrong.
PDMac60 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben Show me in Scripture where it says "the seventh day is yet to happen..." Puh-leeez... You are definitely drunk on your wormwood.
Ignore the Sabbath Day and all of His Torah. I don't care what you do.. But when you attempt to drag others into your sin and lawlessness, I will deride you and your convoluted reasoning..
PDMac60 10 months ago
@PDMac60
Heb 4:8 For if Joshua had given them rest, then He would not afterward have spoken of another day.
Heb 4:9 There remains therefore a rest for the people of God.
Heb 4:10 For he who has entered His rest has himself also ceased from his works as God [did] from His.
Heb 4:11 Let us therefore be diligent to enter that rest, lest anyone fall according to the same example of disobedience.
FelixJeyareuben 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben LOL! I was waiting for you to post that one. You just exploded your own pathetic reasoning..
(Heb 4:9 NASB) There remains therefore a Sabbath rest for the people of God.
The Greek word for "rest" is "sabbaton" which means that there DOES remain the Sabbath rest for His people. That very passage you quoted states that we are to keep His Sabbath just as He did at creation.
Keep mocking His Word and stating how His Instructions are worthless and foolish.
Good luck with that..
PDMac60 10 months ago
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@FelixJeyareuben (Gen 2:2 NASB) And by the seventh day God completed His work which He had done; and He rested on the seventh day from all His work which He had done.
(Gen 2:3 NASB) Then God blessed the seventh day and sanctified it, because in it He rested from all His work which God had created and made.
The Father never rested?? Really?? Whatever..
Elohim "sanctified" the seventh day at creation. Do you know what that means? (Probably not...)
PDMac60 10 months ago
@FelixJeyareuben "God's Law does not include the Sabbath..." ROFL!! Whatever... Keep sipping on your wormwood teats on Sunday mornings...
In your lame Galatians quote, the Greek word for "fulfilled" is "ple-roo." It merely means to "make full." The Torah of the Father is made full in "love," yes. But not in ignorance. Sorry....
PDMac60 10 months ago
So if thats the third trumpet.. How would you interpret the first two?? All the while. remember.. this is during the "great tribulation". I guess thats why I have always thought it to be very literal.. But I will say, I like your video! =)
justinshafer817 11 months ago
@justinshafer817 I just noticed your comment or else I would have said something sooner. All of the trumpets are easily interpreted, just not by Christianity. If this trumpet is even somewhat interpreted correctly (which it is...), then Christianity is too drunk with wormwood to have understanding. It is the common teachings on prophecy (and all of Scripture) that are in grave error.
I like the video also. He did a great job!
PDMac60 10 months ago
@angicsimon67 LOL!!! All the verses in the video are accurate and precise to Scripture. That is EXACTLY what it means! If you are a disobedient sun god worshiper don't bother praying at all. Proverbs 28:9 He who turns away his ear from listening to the Torah, Even his prayer is an abomination. There are several more like that one, but I know how you folks like to phrase pluck and disregard the many verses that support Torah. You know, like those that describe Wormwood.
markswilson8 1 year ago
@angicsimon67 I read Jeremiah 9: 13-15 and if you let Scripture define Scripture, that's exactly what it means. It isn't bent at all in the video. Well done wormwoodrevelation!
markswilson8 1 year ago
@markswilson8 If you read further on on verse 16, you will discover that the wormwood mentioned in verse 15 is one of the punishment God declared on the people. Scripture never defined it as what was portrayed in the video highlighting the verses 13 and 14.If you still insist, then I can only pray for you.
anglcsimon67 1 year ago
@anglcsimon67 And it appears that Christianity is one of the punishments that God has declared on the people...
PDMac60 1 year ago
Wormwood is NOT defined as the desire to do away with God's laws (Old Testament) and follow one's heart as stated in your video.Please read the verses Jeremiah 9: 13-15 carefully and not bend it to say what it does not say.
anglcsimon67 1 year ago
@anglcsimon67 You drank too much wormwood. That passage in Jeremiah is just one. There are others as well.
(Deu 29:18-19) lest there shall be among you a man or woman...., whose heart turns away today from the LORD our God, to go and serve the gods of those nations; lest there shall be among you a root bearing poisonous fruit and wormwood. "And it shall be when he hears the words of this curse, that he will boast, saying, 'I have peace though I walk in the stubbornness of my heart....'
PDMac60 1 year ago
@anglcsimon67 Or is it that you have peace though you walk in the stubbornness of your heart?
PDMac60 1 year ago
@anglcsimon67 . Don't even entertain these bozos, for they are one and the same! Literally! PDMac60 and his alter ego markswilson8. When you bring him the truth of the Word of God, he can't handle it, and resorts to a two pronged attack of abuse. The guy's a demoniac and needs deliverance. The trouble is, he ain't getting any at his Torah club.
Faithlikeachild777 1 year ago
@Faithlikeachild777 The little weasel that likes to mock God and run away is back. Isn't that cute? Call the Torah demonic? Really??? Keep drinking the WORMWOOD little child. Run back to your safe touchy, feely place where everyone thinks you are so special because you tickle their ears......LIAR!
markswilson8 1 year ago