日本舞妓(Japanese Geisha)(まいこ)-1

[ClaudiaVampiria]

why the hangyoku in this video 山形舞子・小桃さん look so different than these two ones in here? She has the line in her neck, and she has the red collar and correct hair and kimono.. ^^

[lukkha1]

@ClaudiaVampiria they are not furisode san two of them are from akasaka not asakusa and the jikata is from shinbashi how to you they are just because your knowledge of kimono and geisha comes from memoirs of geisha book and film and probably some stupid programs about the kyoto hanamachi. i have been living among geisha for more then 15 years and my grand mother is a former geisha these girls are NOT furisode san. what an insult to their dance !

[lukkha1]

@ClaudiaVampiria hangyokusan are not the same persons as the maiko and geiko of kyoto. the style is different just because the fashion of a certain period was different in kyoto and tokyo. the geisha from kyushu and the ones from osaka or nagasaki are also different from the ones of kyoto and tokyo. it's just a fashion trend npthong else. i mostly know the geisha from pontocho because my grand mother was one of them but i'm a an and half icelandic so not a pro

[TheLampDancer]

Geiko or Geisha are the badasses of the flower and willow world!!!! I admire them a ton!!!

[kirstyana]

This is tokyo geisha and thers hangyoku dancing thats a hangyoku obi knot. hangyoku is toky geisha apprentice.

[MrMichmich1]

Kimonos are too old, maybe the design and color... And the maiko's collar isn't red... There is something wrong ! >.<

[xxHartBrokenxx]

@MrMichmich1 furisode san, geisha impersonators. They are woman who had short training in certain dances and songs and manners. They are not real geisha, furisode san is just a parttime job.

[petitelfe93]

I have also just noticed: they have both points of drawn in the leaving neck apparaitre the skin!

It is not more made?

[petitelfe93]

I does not understand a lot who are these young women.

White-collar worker and knot of the Ob runs = geisha girl, but ornamental in hair, Kimono in the lively colors, with a lot of motive and long sleeves = maikos!

Queqlu' can a he explain to me?

Thank you.

[firewalker570]

they are not kyoto Geiko however. and typically geisha do not wear long sleeve kimono only maiko and apprentices.

[SelestynaArpa364]

omg their kimonos are gorgeous...

[mikalero]

They're not tokyo geisha apprentices? i.e. hangyoku?

[heartzempire]

@mikalero

They're Furisode-san.

[Fishroads]

their kimono looks cheap

[SelestynaArpa364]

@Fishroads those kimonos are about $13000 each, not to mention their traditional hair ornaments and their instruments. They are handmade silk, I dunno, I think they are beautiful, the colors are unique and eyecatching to me.

[Fishroads]

@SelestynaArpa364 they arent real geisha, part time geikos, the hairstyles is not the same as the geishas of asakusa, gion or miyagawa, and the kimonos looks very cheap to me

[SelestynaArpa364]

@Fishroads yeah I realized they weren't geishas after reading some of the other comments oops... ^.^ oh well. I completely respect your opinion, but I must say thats a beautiful purple. :)

[yeongja1]

京都の舞妓さんではなく、深川等の芸者（半玉←舞妓にあたる見習­いのこと）さんではないですか？

京都は----　舞妓・芸妓

関東は----　半玉・芸妓（芸者？）

と呼ぶらしいです。

京都の舞妓・芸妓は裾引き以外は着ませんし・・。

踊り手の衣装の華やかさと振袖から見ると、半玉だと思います。

奥の三味線の方が芸妓さんかと・・。

[714loveisblue]

@yeongja1 さん

そうですね

舞妓さんは鬘ではなく地髪を結います

そして帯もだらり帯

全く舞妓さんとは違いますね〜



[papillonxchocolat]

Mostly, you can tell frmo their obi, which is not tied in either the maiko or geiko stylings. Their hair is done as elaborately as a minarai's, but they are not wearing a very red collar, and still have a full red lip. Also, one is not abl to notice the forked prong at the nape of the neck. The kimono is not properly opened, just a bit, at the front. Maiko and junior geiko wear their kimono a bit looser.

These are the furisode-san girls, though that doesn't deter from their skill.

[lukkha1]

@papillonxchocolat how western ! you judge a person by her clothing and her make up before the level of her artistry. these two girls are amazing dancers, i can tell you have never seen furisode san performing ! that7s quite insulting for these two hangyoku san and the jiikata to beleive they are just mere dancers. learn art before basing your judgement on appearence alone .

[bajanrainstorm]

@papillonxchocolat That's not true. Kyoto is not the only place with geisha, and each place has its own traditions. Their obi is tied in the style of the hangyoku, the name for apprentice geisha in Tokyo. These are real geisha apprentices.



[lukkha1]

@papillonxchocolat they are not furisode san they are geisha from the akasaka district in tokyo and the jiikata is from the shimbashi district of tokyo stop saying you know who is who i personally know these girls

[papillonxchocolat]

Yeah this is definitely not maiko or geiko-- they look like furisode-san girls.

[teamshintaichi]

geisha are extremely admirable and furisode san are still admirable too. idk why everybody disses furisode san just bcz they r not geisha. they still dance beautifully. good work girls.

[kenitai007]

京都の舞妓ではありませんね。

簪・紅い鹿の子、髪型、着物、帯、着付け。

総てが違います。

一番違うのが「だらりの帯」

どこから見ても全く違います。

投稿者の思い込みでしょう。

基礎知識がないから白塗りで着物着て踊れば皆舞妓芸妓にしてしま­う。

残念です。

[Aruchinjiru]

Furisode-san.

Basically they are like part-time Geisha if you want a basic explanation. They basically usually are either housewives or have some other job while part-time they dance and sing in traditional Japanese parties.

I am not very fond of them. One thing they aren't as graceful as Geisha and second their kimono and fans are way too flashy, it almost comes off tacky.

[awekuvbtyrftrbjwe]

ほんとに舞妓？

違うような気が。

[Ichimomo101]

Dear AndyChuang1211,

Geiko14 is absolutely right. Even with traditional music and dances they still are only furisode-san.

Furisode-san perform in ochayas like real maiko or geiko but they can be seen mostly in Tokyo.

[Pizzuzza]

Those are not geisha. Those are furisode - san

[madenkind]

@Pizzuzza

What exactly is a furisode-san?

[6mali]

Absolutely beautiful! I wish I were Japanese so I could train to be geisha!

[angeleyes503]

Furisode-san, not geisha. They can be found in Tokyo.

[geiko14]

oh cool thank you for explaining (^-^)

[geiko14]

well they dont look like actual geiko from kyoto maybe they are from somewhere else? do you know?

[KimihikoOnizuka]

There was a KAGAI in the Japanese whole country in old times.

It remains still a little in various places.

I think that these maikoes are maiko in the Soumarou in Yamagata Prefecture

Sakata City.

There are maikoes in Yamagata City and Sakata City in Yamagata Prefecture.

To leave the tradition art in various places, the geisha and the maiko are

preserved.

[geiko14]

is this the furisode-san girls?

[AndyChuang1211]

Dear geiko14,

This is Japanese Geisha's dance and music.