Weekly Jobless Claims UP; Exiting Home-Sales Fall 3%

[MrLiberal4life]

i'm trying to get in SS check now because my feet hurt when i work.....i been jobless for some time now its kinda not all bad.

[Darlowe]

The Morning after pill makes it okay to make stupid decisions when it comes to sex. Kids who cannot take into account that they will get pregnant after a stupid night will now be more likely to make stupid mistakes cause they can get the pill without letting anyone know.

[BrodyLuv2]

Chains You Can Belive In.

[cashman247]

No Swine flu up there yet.......dont kiss anyone, or touch anything........

[keithholden]

The rich have 2 kids the poor have 3-4 kids. Does this mean less educated people. More uneducated people.

Fact more people go to university from rich homes than from poor homes.

[folly4444]

i think as individuals & as a global society we're in a big mess.... this REALITY is just RIDICULOUS..... you try so hard to live the right way for yourself & you see so many others (incl'g elitist org's) doing some pretty strange things... as though all the rules in this 'game of life' have been thrown out the window & now we're all just a bunch of headless chickens running around trying to make sense of this ridiculous world ..... & NO ONE (in power) is answering any questions....

[RetardedAdult]

and while we're on the subject of abortion...if my wife ever got pregnant at this point i'd smack that bitch down! how dare she jeopordize my gun-spending money by getting pregnant! nope, not on my watch!

[Lynchian74]

Condoms should be subsidised by the government and freely available. The birth control pill should be free with a health plan. The morning after pill is a great idea and should also be available without prescription and advertised as being so. This would all help to ease the need for abortion, which should be available as an option of last resort up until 10 weeks.

Sex is our primal instinct. The more we feel the end is nigh, the hornier we are going to get. NWO can't destroy our love!

[wordwarrior42]

pregnantcy is 100% preventable....STOP HAVING UNMARRIED SEX!!!!!!! but people want there thrills and have no self control so babies are being killed everyday...

[RetardedAdult]

you have it all wrong...if you want to prevent pregnancy GET MARRIED...ONCE YOU WOMEN HOOK US AND WE MARRY YOU THE SEX COMES TO A GRINDING HALT. watch out young brothers..don't get married if you like sex.

[roottruthseeker]

marriage doesn't matter if you can't afford the kids

[veritasfiles]

Yeah, people are probably choosing abortion more because of the money situation, but it would obviously be better to choose not to put yourself into a position where you can get pregnant. This is just another sign of the moral decline.

[earbud83]

Buss a nut!! ha

[TruthNowCdn]

Life is a wonderful gift. Abortion is a horific evil! The utilitarian arguement for justifying abortion and the morning after pill is seriously flawed. Ultimately the impact of abortion (on society) has translated into a lack of respect amoung all people, AND we are seeing this impact magnified during the current economic depression! Make no mistake the NWO elite support abortion, the elite will always support and celebrate the shedding of innocent blood.

TruthNowCdn

[Martian74]

As morals have declined and sex is given out pretty freely (declining marriage) and children are viewed as an inconvenience, so too the abortion rate has risen. Why would someone bother raising a child or adopting it out when life is viewed as less valuable than it used to be. People see murders and killing on the tv everyday and have become so desensitized to it they don't even see their own children as something worth working for or even giving birth to and letting someone else adopt and raise

[roottruthseeker]

marriage is not natural free sex is. The so called Morals are the traditions of man.

[Martian74]

Morals help lift us from being animals. Morals are a code of conduct and as our morals get better, society gets better, when they decline our society declines. If you want to live your life as an animal, having 'free sex', defecating where you please and have no conscience of others then go live with a tribe of chimps(although the smarter ones seem to have morals as well).

[shagsleepyeyes]

I am going to say something about abstinence that a friend told me that made me think when I was fooling around.

If people can not control themselves and their urges to have sex do you think of yourself as a animal. Like a dog humping on things without knowing any better.

I do not believe abstinence is perfect but people use helpful cognitive skills and not animal instincts when having sex.

[shagsleepyeyes]

Or I would say my mother and father taught me about moral actions of having sex and children. That's something schools , communities , and parents should try to focus on.

[shagsleepyeyes]

I believe it should be considered morally right to give mothers, no matter their age and circumstance, security enough to let their child be born alive if they chose so. Aborting a child should be the very last option. That's just my personal opinion. People should be taught more moral responsibility of sex along with how to use protection. I was never taught moral responsible and thankfully I was self taught.

[mcgrawtim123]

Dude, I remember the deep recession/inflation of 1982...abortion....ahhh well, financial situations do matter. My dad was born in 1931, and he always tells me that if abortion had been an option then, he wouldn't be around. He loves life...every day is a gift.

[tiggie1975]

I don't understand this "unplanned" pregnancy thing. Is it really so difficult to use contraception? I've been with my husband for 8 yrs now and haven't had so much as a pregnancy scare. That's not to say it won't happen. I've known a number of women who had unplanned pregnancies and only one got pregnant because her birth control failed. The rest simply weren't using any birth control.

[whiskerchild]

In the Depression of the 30s, childbirth plummeted.

[economicupdatestates]

.........................don't know what to say, make a pill for men.......having kids is the greatest joy....but it is very hard work, most don't like hard work....I'm talking about men and women,,it takes two to keep an eye out raising them......

[DEMCAD]

For me, the word "fun" does not refer to anything involving work....lol

[TinaFunk]

Personally, I don't believe people who are single should be taxed more than married people. Has nothing to do with children.. I can not have children, but if I was to find myself pregnant during these times, I cannot say that I would choose to have a child so I could send them off to war to kill or be killed.. and may I add, I am an RN and can empathize with her.

[Travinyle1]

Im gonna be paying taxes to the NWO anyway if people have kids or not man. I just think every soul has a purpose. Murdering your child because were in a depression is just weak minded and exactly what the elite want. So as far as taxes its irrelevant to me they have stolen everything anyway

[shagsleepyeyes]

the 32 year old women who had to abort was sad. Especially the fact she was a nurse. That just shows you people need more support in raising their children. In communities or families need to come together for support. Also why not give all women chance for free delivery at a hospital and free medical care for their children. Rather than women having to chose to abort their children because their economic statue.

[DEMCAD]

Or maybe it shows that some people simply don't want the responsibility?

She could have put the kid up for adoption.

[shagsleepyeyes]

I am not sure if what my sociology teacher said was true. But I do believe people who have children in the United States should have more support in raising their families. So women do not have to perform abortion. Young children should be taught to be more responsible about sex and how you know when your ready. Maybe 17 year girl would not have to have abortions.

[DEMCAD]

Or maybe people shouldn't have kids unless they are able to support those kids themselves.

[shagsleepyeyes]

Today in my sociology class my teacher had this graph comparing Mexico and United States birth rates. It showed that United States birth rate is comparative low compared to a poor country like Mexico. Most people in the United States live longer and would rather than have children because they want more money and play time for themselves.

[haole80]

i think its pretty cool

[vention4wh]

You're right on target about buying a house in this environment. Even 10 years ago when I bought my condo I looked around and shook my head in disgust. There's no way I was going to bankrupt myself on a house when vastly more affordable condos are available. Same square footage but only 30% of the price. I pay more principle every month and the taxes are vastly lower. 25k more on the mortgage. After that the money from a roommate could pay taxes, condo fee and utilities. I could live for free!

[DEMCAD]

Have you considered having sex with women who are not in your age group? (e.g. 18-25)

[DEMCAD]

"Women don't become fully human until they're at least 35."

Dude, you're freaking me out.

"I have more in common with those little gray aliens from outer space than I have with most of those women"

Newsflash, you probably don't have much in common with 40 year old women. And besides, you don't need to have any thing in common to have sex with them...lol

And what makes you think that women in their 40s will not try to use you?

[roottruthseeker]

The libido only drops away if you eat the processed garbage that the gov gives out. If you are circumcised your exposed organ will dry and wither away. All apart of the plan of course.

[DEMCAD]

You have a great job. You should get out and enjoy life.

Find a hot 21 year old this weekend!

[vention4wh]

I already enjoy life. Why mess it up with a 21 year old?

[DEMCAD]

As long as you're happy.

[1scubaman]

here is a crazy idea, yes I know it is CRAZY. If people do not want kids do not have sex. What is next aborting teenagers because they become to expensive ?? Think how much money could be saved not having to feed those mouths

[becauseicare2]

My grandparents gave away a child during the great depression to a wealthy family who could raise her, they didn't murder the child. Sorry if I seem cold about the topic but I have heard from too many woman over the years who are scarred for life, either physically or emotionally from having an abortion.

[becauseicare2]

I love the "unexpected pregnancy" argument for having an abortion. Listen, if you have sex, even with protection, you have a chance of getting pregnant. Second, people are not taking care of their kids anyway. Most families have 2 people working in the home to make ends meet, becasue of lifestyle choices. My point is that daycare and schools are raising their children.

[JOSYMOL]

I think both the aborter & the doctor making it are nothing but filthy criminal baby killers. If they didn't want to have a baby, why the Fck did they have irresponsable unprotected sex? It pisses me off that irresponsable little whores think they can have sex w anyone they want & then avoid the consequences & responsabilities by killing their own little premature baby. If its a rape abortion, thats diferent & I can't judge. We will call that cruelty if it was done in animals. Doctors kill 4 $.

[phantomcharger]

I think a unloved child is worse then abortion.

and will end up much worse as time gos by

[JOSYMOL]

phantomcharger ; you said;

"I think a unloved child is worse then abortion.and will end up much worse as time gos by"

So I guess you approve what that mother did a week ago who shot his son in the back of the head in a range, then? Because maybe she thought that her son was gonna be better off dead than living an unloved life, maybe? The diference is that her boy had a social security & a Birth certificate, unlike an aborted baby who was just killed before it was borned. A life is a life

[misawayub]

demcad.. what is that song in the opening of your vids? would like to hear more from that band..

[DEMCAD]

"I guess you're right"

[Travinyle1]

sorry man im not with you on population control

[DEMCAD]

So I guess you don't mind paying more in taxes to support all of these unwanted kids, right?

[skyding8962]

THose losers are just looking for an excuse to give an abortion. If you really cared you wouldn't blame it on the economy.

[JOSYMOL]

They announced today on my local news that the GM Plant here in Parma, Ohio will close in June 2009. Thats about 1,200 jobs that will be lost just there alone. This represents a 10% of the tax revenue of the city of Parma that will be lost.

Also another plant in Parma, OH called Firstar Precision that supplies parts for GM will be affected and probably driven out of bussines. I dont know why people are still questioning how serious things are. Things are getting closer & closer to home folks

[JOSYMOL]

That sounds a lot like the story of the Cows being exchanged for Magic Beans...lol.

"Hey, do you want to buy my 1 million dollar house that is now worth 800K? You'll make 200K !" Yeah right. One might save 200K but that is not making 200K or money at all; especially when the prices keep dropping more.

Once all the bail/pork/fake money runs out, what they'll do is raise property taxes & taxes in general sky high & we all be worse than when all started. We're screwed w what is coming...

[OhItsJustMe2]

I really dont believe in abortion, but there are several methods of birth control out there that are very effective.

I find it interesting how people who have ties to washington (the government) are being "found" dead from possible "suicide". Very interesting indeed!

Great video!  Thanks.

[aceyorba]

the realtor from Detroit is on Drugs.. wait another year and buy that same house for 100K

[DEMCAD]

LOL...100,000 dollars. That's about right. The market is going down.

[FrancisPayne]

People having sex should take responsibility for any outcome be it STDs or unwanted pregnancies. Abortion ain't right..u taking a life simple. if couples are performing abortions because of recession it's irresponsible of them..because they consented to have sex knowing fully well the risks and consequences of having a kid in these hard times. 17yr old having free access to pills is wrong..d society would even see more pregnancies and talk about health effects/harzards of these pills. Peace.

[TheDudeJeffCanuckski]

Abortion is murder. What's there to discuss? If anyone doesn't realize this, go to 1voice4truth and look at the videos of murdered children. The whole problem with this nation is, it's turned it's back on God. Most people are headed straight to hell and don't even believe in heaven or hell. They're too busy watching sports or other NWO TV programs.

[TainoRebelde]

ABORTION because of the economy? More selfish excuses...No reason why they cant give the child up for adoption.

The baby you kill...is NOT YOUR BODY!!

[lloydmer]

Many older cultures, including Eskimos, would often use abortion as a means to keep their population in check when resources were scarce. It's never a happy choice, but the adult hunter/gatherer/farmer is more valuable. The alternative is having people starve within their communities, including the baby just born. I'm not saying it is that bad in America yet, although for some families it may be. If the dollar takes a serious nose dive, food may become a serious concern for many more of us.

[aboutsoul19]

A social invention? Sometimes. But other times, morality is the cold hard truth of being a human being with a definite spirit/consciousness structure. You can go to anywhere on the planet, even to any secluded tribe in the amazon where the people there still wear loincloths and youll find that they also have a NATURAL moral code, because it is conducive not just for the group but also for the individuals inner peace.

[DEMCAD]

The truth of being human is relative.

What is a spirit/consciousness structure? A spirit is not a scientifically-proven variable? It doesn't exist. It's a product of those who people in the supernatural (unprovable.)

By the way, there is no such thing as a natural code. And if there was, what is the code?

"Thou shall not kill"

Every society violates that law.

[aboutsoul19]

Historically and Relativistic per individual free will yes. However, I propose that we are specifically designed in such a way that there ARE certain behaviors that are conducive to our inner peace, self respect, etc. and there ARE also behaviors that we can do and think, with the attitude, its ok, only to find that it is NOT conducive to inner peace, positive self esteem, etc.

I am 48yrs. old and have found these things out the hard way.

[nastyblock]

good vid cuz...but the freddie man thing is crazy..i wonder what he seen before he decided to check out....damn this is some hollywood shit going on!!!

[jfooj]

Realtor Math. Pfft!

[Fadedflower37]

I think you are correct the last thing we need is more people having kids that they can not or will not take care of. So a couple of options are to NOT engage in sex or put on a condom or two. Women could take birth control shots, pills etc. to keep from getting pregnant. This would be much better than getting pregnant and taking the morning after pill or getting an abortion. If folks are responsible in the first place then we would not always have to go to the extreme solutions.

[hermbilliamherm18]

people are probly a lot more safe about getting pregnant now due to the economy...i agree! im not a huge supporter of the morning after pill but it would be a better option than having the gov't take away your child because you're an unfit mother (aka too broke because the recession)

[JLC325i]

blah blah blah gift from god blah

I recommend the book freakonomics to you as it explains this subject rather well. I also want to say I feel religion is just a means of keeping the masses in line.

In any case, people should be allowed to have abortions particularly now during hard economic times. Birthing children in to poverty will make them more prone to a criminal life later.

Women in Africa see a child is a setback from god? I don't get it.

[DEMCAD]

I love that book.

[neanam]

Freddie Mac dead by apparent sucide.......*wink wink cough wink wink*

[highwaysong007]

i lost alot money selling my house last year - but glad i got out before i lost even more...

Easier to recover now than it would be if i was selling now...

abortions and pills... best bet (and most moral) is to just keep it in your pants!!

[DEMCAD]

So you think we should live without sex?

[highwaysong007]

no healthy sex IS GOOD! - but if people would just stop acting like animals about it ... kids growing up in broken homes, STDs and the damage our that the belief that one is ENTITLED to sex with no RESPONSIBILTY for it has damaged our society a great deal. What ever happened to real love and commitment? Or even a sense of RESPONSIBLE self preservation? People too often confuse their conscious thoughts with their unconscious drives...

[roottruthseeker]

hm the animals seem to take responsibility for theirs. And they don't consciously destroy their environment. But we are better right? I think society has laid the foundation for these problems. Money impoverishes.

[geraldcaron]

Well, this is what the Popes have been saying for years, an as you can see it works ..... and as you know, priests have no sex, not even with little boys.

[gloomdoomer]

our jobless recovery is right around the corner.LOL!!!!

[nthanon]

i think absolutely people are getting more abortions because of economic hardships. the same thing is happening with pet abandonment nationwide.

anyone buying a house right now is out of their minds and is going to take a bath in 3-6 months on it unless inflation really gets out of hand. but then we're all in trouble.

apple showing a growing profit right now doesn't surprise me. when money is scarce there is always a flight to quality for goods that will be used a lot and for a long time.

[DEMCAD]

If hyperinflation hits, the price of homes will go up only because everything will. Ultimately, they'll still be cheap for a very long time.

[bufforilla]

Hi DEM, I believe if hyperinflation kicks in, the FED will hyperinflate the interest rates to counteract and try to tame the inflation. As interest rates climb, housing prices go lower, because no one can afford the payments on an expensive house with higher interest rates. Atleast thats what i observed in the late 70's and early 80's. One of the reasons house prices got so out of control was the low interest rates. low interest rates=higher house prices. It all comes down to the monthly payment

[nthanon]

but consider how much of the national debt is rolled over in 1 year treasury bonds that need to be resold and financed. if the fed rate rises in any substantial way the interest payments alone on the national debt will consume the entire federal budget at a 10% interest rate.

the fed simply cant raise rates because of the risk of defaulting on the debt. (forcing the government to either raise taxes, shrink government, or inflate like mad. pick one)

[nycman247]

what is wrong with women in the US. Women in Africa have far less but they know a child is a blessing from GOD. Women in America see a child as a setback rather than a gift.

[lloydmer]

hmmm. jane goodall has something to say about that subject. watch?v=B6JLvIxdbjQ

[airdreamlove]

Thou shalt not kill.

[george4title]

great job as always!

[lights21002003]

well i think that its all about chopping down the population. (so far they are doing well) What if this becomes mandatory for ppl will it be accepted by familys? "THOU SHALT NOT KILL" Exodus 20:13 - Deuteronomy 5:17 hmmmmmm..does that ring a bell

[wrinkles1931]

prices of homes in Detroit have fallen for many many years, so they can't fall much more, the average home price last reported was approximently $10,000

[DEMCAD]

But the prices in other parts of the country can fall.

[aboutsoul19]

Hey DEMCAD. Im personally still reeling from my own struggles and tribulations, ie, I lost job and girlfriend of 2yr relationship, just 7 weeks ago. Still reeling. But, hey, the morning after pill, abortion, suicide, rising unemployment, etc. etc.. We as a people, society has lost, underappreciated, and scoffed at principles of morality. A society that starts heading down a road of "anything goes" and just to as you want, doesnt work.

[DEMCAD]

I'm sorry you lost your job.

As far as morality goes, well, morality is relative. What one person considers to be moral, maybe immoral to another.

Every society has its own moral code that differs from others. What is moral in one country maybe immoral in another. Morality even changes over time within a culture. What is considered to be moral today in America, maybe not have been moral 50 years ago.

So what exactly is morality?

A social invention.

[optiontrader11]

Was it suicide ? One wonders.

[powermousey]

uh huh!

rising unemployments..... And people still buy a lot of that expensive junk and luxury items. Oh well,

its their money and choice. Let them buy all that garbage. Until, the economic crises affect them. By the way...I was buying a few groceries over at Walmart and the cashier informed me that the new California sales tax went into effect. He gave me my change of 3 cents and told me to spend it wisely in our glorious State of California. ;)

[limitedplay]

i heard that im here to. All CA cares about is damm illegal aliens

[powermousey]

Thats about right in our glorious State of California. By the way...I have saved the 3 cents in an envelope and as a memento of what the cashier at Walmart has said. I'll remember what he said and how he said it: in a nice and cool way, and with seriousness, irony and sarcasm too. ;)

[seks03]

good vid

[mrzack888]

it was murder of cfo. i bet on it.

[stshell]

abortions are going to happen more in bad times yes - so is substance abuse, crime and bad stuff in general. im not a fan of abortions but i think it is up to the woman to decide and i dont think any of them take it lightly. also i am not one of these hypocrites who tells young people to wait until they are married to have sex when i was doing the same thing at their ages. however you have got to be smart these days and prevention is the only way.

[slobomotion]

Thank you for posting this. Very brave. All I can say is, this does need to be discussed. And some laws need to be changed. In NY State, for example, if a woman is separated from her husband and has filed for a divorce and that divorce is not final yet, and she gets pregnant by ANOTHER man, she cannot give up that child without the legal husband's consent, even though it is not his child! HUH? But she can get an abortion without his consent.

This has been an issue in my own family.

[rauchenfoofy]

debating abortion isn't going to resolve the current problems. leave that for high school and college students, and religio-cult members. keep your focus on the disease which is corruption and greed, and not the symptoms. sure it's sad, but it's not your body. if it is indeed a religious issue, let god handle it. aspire to control the things you can control - such as protecting yourself from international bankers and globalist politicians.

[LisaJ4Liberty]

well said.

[lloydmer]

you're right. abortion seems like one of those convenient issues the elite use to perpetuate the false left-right paradigm. while many people fight about whether abortion is acceptable or not, it's an issue that the elite don't give a hoot about. Meanwhile, they are advancing their bankster takeover and perhaps NWO agenda.

[keepinthfaithlastday]

As a woman who regretably had an abortion 11 years ago.Also many friends with lots of abortons and my sister as well.where i grew up,people go in for abortions like people go for a milshake. Its very sad, sick and evil. But I do see it happen to ladies who are whorrish and or don't date good men,or lost. Those babies are in heaven being raised by angels.If the mothers don't repent now, they will forever burn in hell. Women like that should stop having sex alltogether,

[darkworldprophet]

Women like that should stop existing altogether!

[keepinthfaithlastday]

no they absolutly should not. There may be hope with some. That would be like saying I shouldn't exist. Although i deserve the worst death inaginable plus hell. Jesus loves me so much, He called me away from my wicked ways. We must continue in praying for these women. I do get angry when I hear my "old friends" say if they get pregnant,they will just abort it,what they should say is murder there baby.I get furious, but i have to give all my anger to Jesus,He will sort it out very soon.

[Halo2100]

Or sown shut.

[NeverEnoughBall]

idk how it's set up so this might be how it works anyway but...

the morning after pill should go on your health record and if there is a patern of someone abusing this new right and themselves for taking it over and over then they should be notified that they will be denied it from now on. also those who take it should have to be educated on other means of birth control.

and the economy is absolutely why more abortions are happening and if you can't afford it then i'd say thats good... kinda

[darkworldprophet]

and the economy is absolutely why more suicide/murders are happening and if you can't afford it then i'd say thats good... kinda

[NeverEnoughBall]

its not good that they can't afford it and it's not good that they're having abortions but if you cannot afford children because you are young and have no source of income that's a responsable thing to do.

[Nymphe14]

Has anyone researched what the "morning-after" pill could do? Who has to pick up the medical bill if things go wrong?

[slobomotion]

I know someone who took the morning after pill here in France, and she was not properly prepared for the nasty side-effects. Ugh. She doesn't regret her decision, though.

[DEMCAD]

Cars can dangerous, too! But nobody is talking about banning cars.

[Nymphe14]

So we should let Darwin's natural law take its course, eh? Bad comparison and a straw man to boot.

[darkworldprophet]

Can only worship money or God not both

[slobomotion]

Hm.

[amywalkerartist]

i believe that, rocky, i believe that the governments want us to believe everything is so bad, and we need a change. the change will probably be the nwo completed.

[Rocky1990]

The ironic thing is that people could end it today...

[Rocky1990]

Everything you could have done wrong with the beginning of this year in politics the Obama's puppetmasters have done wrong and not so by coincidence. They WANT to destroy the economy and the constitution.

And people are just apathic enough to go along with it all.

[zackgonnasurvivenwo]

yeah......thats why they kill there own children. im pretty sadistic but i hope there children haunt there dreams.

[oppressedinjc]

I agree, 17 year old kids are not ready to deal with raising children. Even birds build a nest before they lay their eggs. They need to focus on their career's and purchase a house first. I was 30 before I felt I was ready.

[zackgonnasurvivenwo]

yeah so lets just kill the child huh!!

[darkworldprophet]

what do you expect from someone who thinks money (a career and a house) is more important than life.

[NeverEnoughBall]

so a person who only wants say one child gets pregnant accidentally before she is economically prepared to have children you'd rather her have that child and struggle through life than have an abortion and wait a few years to mature and get a stable job before having the child?

[poweroftheglory]

I'd rather be born into a hard life than not exist at all.

[NeverEnoughBall]

well how do you feel about teen pregnancies where the mother's life is at risk and the child is more than likely going to die? in the case where both lives is at risk is abortion then acceptable?

[darkworldprophet]

Definitely, I had a very very hard life. And Im glad I was born. I got to have a family of my own, my 4 kids, 3 dogs and experience more love than one could imagine.

[TheSkinImN]

There's adoption. And before it ever gets to that point...there's condoms, birth control...and what's that one really good one? Oh yah, abstinence.

[NeverEnoughBall]

lol. it feels like everyone seems to think i want that to be the absolute thing to do... personally i really want to adopt but i know it is a very difficult thing to do and i personally know many people who grew up through those programs... of the 5 i know 3 have had constant trouble with the law and one of the others is a drug addict now... not a good record for a decent life.

condoms and birth control is definately first, and i think abstinence is unrealistic for almost anyone.

[oppressedinjc]

darkworldprophet, The care and upbringing of a child is the reason to have the means to support (career) and shelter (house); I did not advocate abortion. I advocate responsibility. You bring a child into this world, you are responsible for that child. The government may not be there to help. Agape

[oppressedinjc]

I do not wish any harm to a child (born or unborn) my point was economic. Having children at that age is going to result in hardship for the child as well as the parent, especially in these harsh economic conditions. Peace.

[truthseekr4life]

Yes. More abortions are probably happening because of the collapse. Sad for the women and sad for the babies.

[johndoe8289]

Thanks Demcad.