Once Carbon Nano Tube is fully developed, we can probably just use it as a cable to hook up to the satellite and transmit energy down that way instead. It should be more efficient that way, I think.
If you manage to clip into a truck (I imagine it wouldn't be that big) with beacons sending out signals saying "Don't fly into me!", I'm pretty damn sure humanity deserved to be doomed.
biulding a solar farm in space takes billions of cash, it cant go wrong plumething into the earth's atmosphere, energy by radiation going down? i mean there are atleast a thousand topics which make this project less plausable
for the same money u can cover asia in solar panels and that be the end of that
Oh god, if those were built PETA would be all over their asses complaining that birds that fly in the beam of microwaves die when the water in their bodies flash boil to steam.
it takes a delicate balance between technology and true care and compassion for life on earth to save it from us. it still comes about us getting what we need, or more of it rather, while keeping the system of the planet the same so we dont screw up any cycles of life or economy. we are only here because of how things are exactly at this time on earth. i dont know this PETA but theres no harm in loving the birds. we need them to poop on us its vital to our evolution lol
@grantkielyyyy considering that their life time is about as long as you keep the dirt off the glass i find that hard to believe. Sure they produce a little less over time but even the first panel ever made is still producing power...
Can the receiving stations, after receiving the energy from space, transmit the energy again as wireless electric power in the form of skywaves or groundwaves which could reflect off of the ionosphere and back to the ground?
I'm wondering if the energy that is transmitted from the orbiting power plants to the ground can be spread out over the entire hemisphere (rather than focused) so that individual rectennas (rectifier-antennas) on mobile devices or on top of electric vehicles, can be used directly instead of being first received at a large receiving station and then transmitted by conventional wires to the devices.
Good question, manufacturing requires more energy. Offshore wind turbines account for aprox 7% of the UK's power needs, aiming to increase this significantly by 2013. in NW England there has been talk about two hydro electric stations by damming the river Dee and Mersey, and near Somerset there is a serious proposal for a Dam that will provide 1/5th of the UK's renewable energy needs. This would also create more than 3000 jobs locally.
Your right that's why its called a fraction. The average house price in the UK is roughly £150k. Depending on the size of the roof would obviously dictate how many panels you can install.
depending on the type of renewable you choose or the size and amount of the PV panels that you use, It would cost less than a small fraction of the average house price in the UK. Currently the UK government will pay the first 12.5% of the cost of the equipment and fitting, there are also grants available in Wales. I can remember roughly 5 years ago there was a media controversy about microwaves from mobile phones being harmful.
You are stupid if you think this would be cheaper (and safer if you read the comments above regarding microwaves), than current renewables that have been tried and tested and actually work! I have visited a house that is powered completely by micro-renewables, it produces emissions of -103g CO2 a year (now that guy lives like a king! widescreen TV entertainment system, the lot). Its money better spent, also there's no guarantee these satellites would even work.
If it gets knocked a bit then yeah, it'll cause big problems. Even if they do generate enough power to pay to run themselves, it's going to cost shitloads to start the projects for it.
There will probably be high security around the are too, because idiots will probably run into these areas and get fried.
PEOPLE LIKE YOU need to be Protected....All values are subjective. At your age is was playing find the finger with just about everygirl in my school....far to busy to be engaging in this kind of discourse, science has evolved due to the perserverance of individuals, Organisations exist to purely to nurture and exploit these individuals...... Preists make the same lie Over and Over again, Politician and scientists, are forced to create new lies everyday... You cant vote anyway so Shhh
If you pour alot of energy into any atmosphere from outter space What do you think will happen????
You need to think about what your saying and who your saying it too, i'm obviously talking to a kid, so I'll make it simple, if you boil a kettle the temperature rises no matter how you do it*, were talking about planets, dont forget how fine the balence is, PREISTS LIE? so do politicians & scientists DONT be so quick to JUMP ON THESE BANDWAGONS, STUDY life a bit more PEACEx
Yeah but the point is i'd rather have COST free Power, and live low tech. And I wouldn't be happy about investing in this idea, dispite the potential profits, because i just Hate the Direction.... Who really benifits from the Sci-fi stuff??? I'd give up the net for a better life format
What build a death star.... I'm not going to be paying for that.... no way.
The energy thing isn't about making more energy........... its about spending it better.
I'd use gravity to power municipal power stations from the tide, work out how much juice you get per tidal cycle and re-engineer all the infrastructure around that...
lol, I ment other goverments not the one wanting to do it, so to speak. An example of what I ment is found in putting nuclear stuff into space. I read somewhere that there are treaties and what not prohibiting any country from doing it. Is that a bit clearer?
eeck! sounds too much like a weapon to me! Concentrated microwave energy? Beamed down from sapce? And if the beam is only 1 degree off at any time it will cook a vast area! I think this idea will have a lot of goverements saying no
There is a fundamental flaw when stating power output of the sun is in "watts per second". Anybody who is without a degree in the relevant science has no valid opinion because, well you have no idea what you are on about, sorry. Some precise maths is required to support this theory. post script; do not let the C.G.I. persuade your judgement on the validity of these claims.
remember people E=MC^2, this is harvesting passing power in no remarkable way.
Pah !! .... free energy from the sun ? Daniel Dingel has been running his cars for free for years, the Phillipino government love his invention but are under pressure from the world banks to keep importing petroleum to pay back loans, check him out on youtube.
They are talking about transmitting the energy from space stations to receivers on the ground using microwaves. To be honest, I don't like this idea at all. I believe microwaves can be quite harmful for living beings. I am mainly worried about long-term effects of microwaves on animals and humans (like increasing chance of cancer, etc.).
Perhaps karadan isn't interested in the ideas you come up with during nap time. He's clearly talking about the video. And anyway, the microwave beams would still take a hell of a long time to complete, and the entire project would cost a hell of a lot.
And also, lots of people have thought of collecting water and turning it into hydrogen fuel. Have you thought of actually getting an effiecient converter?
Stop living your godlike asteroid mining fairy tales, and come back and join reality.
yeah thats the one thing, collecting it doesnt seem to be a problem but the focusing of the energy is, will it be able to focus into that realtively small reciever, and if so how much of the energy will be put into focusing the energy if you know what im saying
or we can wait 50 years, and the first commercial fusion reactors should just be coming up online. Right now we can maintain fusion for 6 minutes, getting 10x more energy than was put in (total).
The number needs to get to 1 week... before we get a useful power generator.
bimblinghill : If money is where our mouth is, we are pinning our hopes on nuclear fusion, biofuel, wind turbines and coal conversion. Not single dolar has been spent on solar satellites.
JayCKat: My view is that we should focus the majority of our cash on currently available technology e.g. wind power and up to 20 or so other promising technologies. But, I think more 'blue sky' ideas are worth funding to a smaller degree. Solar satellites are currently blue sky, just as fusion power was until very recently.
Perhaps, but that has been predicted before, and personally I think it would drive me insane if it did happen. I don't share your confidence that everything will be OK from now on, I expect that we'll have at least a century of muddling through before we have any likelihood of achieving utopia. 2/3 of the world still live in poverty, we have a lot to do, even without a changing climate and an energy crisis.
When they work out how to deliver the energy in a way that will be affective and have a stable flow without hurting the eco-system, then we will only need that, but the technology is still a few years away, do you agree?..
This comment was much bigger, but youtube would not let me post it, because it was to big.:)
I heard about this 3 years ago, and I fort it was a joke back then. A lot of people said that it could not be possible, because of the technology was not advanced in that kind of process. I've seen what work they have been working on in the past few years and it is outstanding work. It wont solve all our energy problems, but with the new hydrogen fuel cells it will stable a mass amount of problems around the globe.
the world is not going to end!!!!!!!!!!!!!you are a victim of this global warming hype.just think how is it affecting quality of your life!!!don`t let TV to tell you that we are going to die and another bullshit....There are different problems to solve and believe me, humans are capable of that.Trust human ability and democracy.And get info from both sides.
Don't be so down-hearted. We've got big problems to solve, but we can do it. When I was a kid the projections were that there'd be 12 billion people by now and we'd have run out of food. It didn't happen like that because people have been doing things about it.. we need your generation to keep your chin up and keep doing the little things to help. Nobody says the 21st century is going to be an easy ride, the 20th wasn't but we got through it.
RowanEvans123 : Two words, microwave oven. Intense enough microwave and not only do metal sparks, but water boils. And you only need to heat a human body to 43-45 Celsius to kill.
could be used as a weapon i u think about it concentrating massive radio waves onto one city american army wud love tht be a very powerful weapon and could replce nuclear bomb just a theory of course
Does anyone remember paying sim city 2000. They had microwave power plants only problem was that every once and a while the microwaves would miss the receiver dish and cook your sims.
yeah... redirect this microwave generating satellite over a city and you have an instant death ray. I am sure if you sell it both way power production in peace time, death ray in war. The military will help throw a few billion.
This worryingly reminds me of that weapon used in that James Bond film, Die Another Day, Icarus, all this "harnessing of the sun's power," never a good idea!!!
I know how to make the ultimate unexhaustable power source right here on earth and dead cheap too. Sadly I need help to make it become a reality..., where do i go to get this help???? i have no idea
simple, exhaustible power is a bottomless money well. Draw up your plans. Get investors... family friends... to get the test done. Then look for venture capitalist. Show them your work. if it is good, they invest and provide some business know. And you will be on the road to unlimited fortune and into the history books
OMG as if I'm arguing with a 15 yo. Look it's unrealistic. It will cost too much money for anyone to bother with it, forget asteroid mining the human race hasn't been further than the moon yet. There's no such thing as free energy! The government is more likely just to say to Joe average: "put some PV equipment on your roof & we will pay for most of the cost of them", I can't see them using tax payers cash to build elaborate monstrosities in space. Stop reciting the alphabet the jokes old now.
Since when has wikipedia been usefully accurate? why bother with patents if your not implementing it? this is about the video not your idea.
Were not using it because it's far fetched, & with regards to renewable's would you like a list? there are 100's cheaper than this idea, and grants are available which make them realistic & affordable! & For this to work it would require vast amounts of raw materials, rocket fuel, iron, silicone you name it. What's wrong with just being conservative?
if that works and it's gonna be implemented, we're going to heat up the earth additionally to the green house effect.... I don't think that's a good solution
You mean "too little too late" and it's not. It'll help.
It won't burn a hole in anything, microwaves pass through the atmosphere all the time, just the same way radio waves and light waves do. A laser won't burn a hole and neither would this.
radio waves mostly bounce back to the earth light travels so fast it barely affects it and a laser if focused energy not microwaves.
micro waves at which is focused on one spot thw whole time and wat would happend if the satilites drifts of into a different spot? the radiation will hit wat ever the satelite is under.
possibly, but if you think about it millions of microwaves hit the atmosphere all the time plus the satellites and communications signals from around the world. But since it is concentrated, you have a point... hmmm...
That exact spot will have some kind of recipient to receive the waves. Also, you said "if it drifts into another spot" I presume they've thought of that, and weren't just planning on hoping they drift around and pass over the odd receiver now n again... They'll be controlled, like other satellites are to stay on course. There's a huge debate about this on geekimo dotC0M if you wanna read that, but cant give ya the like because it'll block the link.. :) It's in the recently active threads. :)
If the humanrace as a whole could unify under one single goal we could have solved problems like the "engery crisis" years ago. If the resources were made avaliable with out having to worry about costs in the spirt of all for a good cause then things would be made one hell of a lot easier but the chance of that happeneing are very slim to none at all. This idea seems to be a slght over the top answer but its production could help pave the way for future development in the area of solarharnessing
A - We've established you have a good grasp of the alphabet up to F. well done.
B - Why are people not investing money in your idea if it is as good as you say it is.
C - Why are we not already using it?
D - There are cheaper renewable alternatives.
from my point of view it's over engineering a solution for a problem, I'm sorry I mocked you but I can't take this idea seriously, I don't believe anyone would invest in you anyway, you sound like you have major chip on your shoulder.
Why not just build loads of huge solar panels down on Earth? Saves having to launch stuff into space and having to beam down microwaves that would give us all cancer.
Yeah whatever. so where are the investors that are lining up to invest thosands of their own cash in your brilliance? If it's so achieveable why aren't we doing it now? I think your just like all the other fakes that are on here boasting free power for nothing. And by the way I've made my own version of the enterprise out of nothing but some yoghurt pots and some PVA glue. It works by harvesting dylitium crystals from the sea water. By the way it's idiot pending, ask nasa about stupid ideas
No your the idiot. If you actually read what I wrote you would understand that I was suggesting we live a more frugal lifestyle not go back to the dark ages. I'm not saying that we shouldn't prosper, I'm highlighting the fact that we don't need things that consume gluttonous amount of energy to live like "a king". For example driving HUGE cars that get 1mpg when you have no use for it. Your living in some star trek fairy tale land if you think this is realistic.
aaaand, what happens if there are loads of these things all over the world? All the planes have to change their course, pretty sure its a bad idea to fly through one of these ;/
ohhh i like the soumd off that. whhoooooosh energy flyspast big do-hickies in space and zaaaaap do-hickies fire lazer beams at big fryingpans on the earth and vrrrrrrm energy turned into electric and yay everybodys happy
It's a nice idea to generate 100's time more energy than we need but it's going a little too far isn't it? If we all cut down the amount of energy we needed to fuel our homes, we would be able to use existing technology to create enough renewable energy for everyone. Remember that its all the small changes we do right that add up to the unassailable difference. I don't think science fiction power plants are the answer!
Absolutely true! But if everyone was a little more conservative we would have more energy for more useful things. Turn your TV's off standby, get PV panels, Biomass fuel boilers ect. Thats going at least some way towards "saving the planet". Much more realistic than this!
And if say, an asteroid hit one, it would knock it, meaning it would be spreading all that solar energy all over the place, can you imagine what would happen to a city, or anything, if the beam hit it?
it shouldnt float, it should just be a really tall tower with ropes holding it to earth with loads of solar panels on the top. The microwaves are like radiation (If i am correct) and would giv people cancer if the beam went astray. We all saw it at chernoble 20 years after they died of cancer due to the radiation still there...
Hey, an orbital power plant! What a great idea! It's not as if Earth orbit is full of random bits of destroyed satellite that could damage an orbital power plant, is it?
microwaves dont have enough energy to ionize are cells anway and if the satellites are geostationery then they'll never move from the fixed position on earth. Definitley sounds promising.
I dont like the idea of microwaves getting beamed onto earth. It will be fine until twenty years later everyone has cancer and they realise they didnt think it through. Why cant we just use solar power on earth by having the panels on earth? Its cheaper too surely?
My only concern is that government officials would never want to spend the money on this, no matter how efficient it would be. I fail to understand how although this would end HUGE amounts of the Earth's problems, companies would not provide things like this for free.
You know the Earth spins right? It would not be as concentrated as you would perceive. Good point though, if it really is that amount of energy, surely something would be damaged
Meh. People need to start thinking long term. The sun's going to expand and roast the Earth eventually, so nothing we do today makes much difference. Might as well use what we can while its here. Might be good technology to bear in mind for Earth 2 though.
The sun will expand in about 5 billion years time. There's a lot of human misery that could fit in between now and then, and using "what we can while it's here" has already had a pretty disastrous effect.
Well i hope they don't put it in a rainforest area where it destorys the nature there like when they did that to the tropical rainforest s of Borneo for those Parm oil plants for so called "renewable energy sorce".
It is certainly a neat idea, and to all extents renewable and clean.
I am concerned in regards to how much it would cost to maintain the orbital power stations (from meteor strikes etc.) and also the risk of a microwave beam being misdirected (possibly from a meteor strike again); even a slight tilt could direct the microwave beam towards the city that the receiver is powering.
Call me a paranoid guy who has played too much SimCity 2000, but isn't it worth keeping that in mind?
Looks good to me. This was exactly what lost Tesla all of his corporate sponsorships.
famousquotesabout 3 months ago
so easy, hahahha, Orbital Power Plant, buy a life
perjanan 8 months ago
Once Carbon Nano Tube is fully developed, we can probably just use it as a cable to hook up to the satellite and transmit energy down that way instead. It should be more efficient that way, I think.
wanaan 1 year ago
@wanaan until a plane flies into it
Jaken2020 1 year ago
@Jaken2020 That's what radar beacons are for.
If you manage to clip into a truck (I imagine it wouldn't be that big) with beacons sending out signals saying "Don't fly into me!", I'm pretty damn sure humanity deserved to be doomed.
wanaan 1 year ago
thats amazing for me <3
ShakeYourKitty14 1 year ago
i find it kinda far fetched
biulding a solar farm in space takes billions of cash, it cant go wrong plumething into the earth's atmosphere, energy by radiation going down? i mean there are atleast a thousand topics which make this project less plausable
for the same money u can cover asia in solar panels and that be the end of that
SatoTM3 2 years ago
focused microwaves? Usually, when I hear that, I think of reheating my leftovers but nope, I think Im thinking abou microwave radiation
ClarsonCarson 2 years ago
Oh god, if those were built PETA would be all over their asses complaining that birds that fly in the beam of microwaves die when the water in their bodies flash boil to steam.
god, i fucking hate PETA
Buddyb309 2 years ago 8
eat more meats!
imgordonfreeman 2 years ago
lol that would be a funny sight!
Collective122 2 years ago
it takes a delicate balance between technology and true care and compassion for life on earth to save it from us. it still comes about us getting what we need, or more of it rather, while keeping the system of the planet the same so we dont screw up any cycles of life or economy. we are only here because of how things are exactly at this time on earth. i dont know this PETA but theres no harm in loving the birds. we need them to poop on us its vital to our evolution lol
rogerthat155 2 years ago
hahahhah so they actually just vaporise right
bloodlinehunter 2 years ago
@Buddyb309
As long as they protest in the nude, I do not care. :P
khanrhy 1 year ago
@Buddyb309 PETA is ridiculous, i doubt anyone who can come up with good ideas like this will take PETA seriously.
AklyonX 1 year ago
@Buddyb309 so do I, you should join PWETA - google it
06stephend 1 year ago
currently you produce more CO2 making a solar pannel then they will ever save in there life time.
Fusion power is the future.
grantkielyyyy 2 years ago 4
Really?
What is fusion power and how do you use it?
Eddboy229 2 years ago
Wikipedia it, its what fuels the sun.
elgranto7 2 years ago
WAY!!!
henrytdsimmons 2 years ago
but what about the toxic waste?
intindse 2 years ago
You have no nuclear waste from a "fusion" reactor.
elgranto7 2 years ago
of course you do, google nuclear waste
intindse 2 years ago
Your talking about "fission" i'm talking about "fusion"
elgranto7 2 years ago
it depends if they can ever pull it off, they are trying, but Fusion power is still only a concept really.
ogfunk187 2 years ago
@grantkielyyyy considering that their life time is about as long as you keep the dirt off the glass i find that hard to believe. Sure they produce a little less over time but even the first panel ever made is still producing power...
entune85 1 year ago
@grantkielyyyy
So? Enough is enough, i tought this "CO2 caused global warming" bullcr&p is over. SOLAR POWER FTW!
Tw0j4st4r4 1 year ago
Can the receiving stations, after receiving the energy from space, transmit the energy again as wireless electric power in the form of skywaves or groundwaves which could reflect off of the ionosphere and back to the ground?
ec100 2 years ago
I'm wondering if the energy that is transmitted from the orbiting power plants to the ground can be spread out over the entire hemisphere (rather than focused) so that individual rectennas (rectifier-antennas) on mobile devices or on top of electric vehicles, can be used directly instead of being first received at a large receiving station and then transmitted by conventional wires to the devices.
ec100 2 years ago
Can there be another one (or more) be placed in another part of the orbit so that another hemisphere of the planet receives the energy also?
ec100 2 years ago
Good question, manufacturing requires more energy. Offshore wind turbines account for aprox 7% of the UK's power needs, aiming to increase this significantly by 2013. in NW England there has been talk about two hydro electric stations by damming the river Dee and Mersey, and near Somerset there is a serious proposal for a Dam that will provide 1/5th of the UK's renewable energy needs. This would also create more than 3000 jobs locally.
spadge2356 2 years ago
Also you may have heard a Scottish firm made "sea snakes" installed off the coast of Portugal which converts wave energy into electricity.
spadge2356 2 years ago
Your right that's why its called a fraction. The average house price in the UK is roughly £150k. Depending on the size of the roof would obviously dictate how many panels you can install.
spadge2356 2 years ago
depending on the type of renewable you choose or the size and amount of the PV panels that you use, It would cost less than a small fraction of the average house price in the UK. Currently the UK government will pay the first 12.5% of the cost of the equipment and fitting, there are also grants available in Wales. I can remember roughly 5 years ago there was a media controversy about microwaves from mobile phones being harmful.
spadge2356 2 years ago
You are stupid if you think this would be cheaper (and safer if you read the comments above regarding microwaves), than current renewables that have been tried and tested and actually work! I have visited a house that is powered completely by micro-renewables, it produces emissions of -103g CO2 a year (now that guy lives like a king! widescreen TV entertainment system, the lot). Its money better spent, also there's no guarantee these satellites would even work.
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XenoAlex2222 2 years ago
a bloody good way to cook the earth and everyone on it at least some of the rays energy will be distributed by the beam as heat!
ngh18 2 years ago
If it gets knocked a bit then yeah, it'll cause big problems. Even if they do generate enough power to pay to run themselves, it's going to cost shitloads to start the projects for it.
There will probably be high security around the are too, because idiots will probably run into these areas and get fried.
ejuck 2 years ago
LMAO.....
PEOPLE LIKE YOU need to be Protected....All values are subjective. At your age is was playing find the finger with just about everygirl in my school....far to busy to be engaging in this kind of discourse, science has evolved due to the perserverance of individuals, Organisations exist to purely to nurture and exploit these individuals...... Preists make the same lie Over and Over again, Politician and scientists, are forced to create new lies everyday... You cant vote anyway so Shhh
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
GO TO SCHOOL.......
LAWS WERE MADE TO PROTECT PEOPLE LIKE YOU FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME...
THE VALUE OF LIFE is subjective.......
YOURS wouldn't be worth hauling...
Better make sure you pull your own weight...
WHO DO YOU THINK MADE SCIENCE......
Who do you think sell's it....
Two very differant types of people, do you see many hippys in the sales dept....?????
You dont have to admit anything, but you've made me quite upset, Problem is you represent a large majority..... PS preists lie less*
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
Listen to me Chav'ez.
If you pour alot of energy into any atmosphere from outter space What do you think will happen????
You need to think about what your saying and who your saying it too, i'm obviously talking to a kid, so I'll make it simple, if you boil a kettle the temperature rises no matter how you do it*, were talking about planets, dont forget how fine the balence is, PREISTS LIE? so do politicians & scientists DONT be so quick to JUMP ON THESE BANDWAGONS, STUDY life a bit more PEACEx
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
Obviously somthing we dont have, much off
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
Yeah but the point is i'd rather have COST free Power, and live low tech. And I wouldn't be happy about investing in this idea, dispite the potential profits, because i just Hate the Direction.... Who really benifits from the Sci-fi stuff??? I'd give up the net for a better life format
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
i thought they were already doing things like this years back...
thefraggenator 2 years ago
Very ingenious!
rationalway 2 years ago
What build a death star.... I'm not going to be paying for that.... no way.
The energy thing isn't about making more energy........... its about spending it better.
I'd use gravity to power municipal power stations from the tide, work out how much juice you get per tidal cycle and re-engineer all the infrastructure around that...
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
lol, I ment other goverments not the one wanting to do it, so to speak. An example of what I ment is found in putting nuclear stuff into space. I read somewhere that there are treaties and what not prohibiting any country from doing it. Is that a bit clearer?
jjwebster1 2 years ago
wats ur idea mate
emmet777 2 years ago
not gonna happen!
1: possibility of mass radiation causing many humans to die
2:The constant change of heat will cause the machine to mess up and destroy a vast area.
and there is much more that could go wrong say the place that it beams down to. wat if that messes up? then there will be even more problems.
anyone correct me if im wrong about anything
killerfox2007 2 years ago
Were you get the idea of mass radiation?
Machines can easily be built to stand extremes of heat.
Microwaves had no effect on human health, and if did go to the wrong place the beam could easily be turned off.
BassBoy14 2 years ago
Your on the right ball there, reminds me of ants & Magnifying glasses,
sticky fingers & Ice cream ARRRRRhhhhhh
Arc5vGyPsy 2 years ago
eeck! sounds too much like a weapon to me! Concentrated microwave energy? Beamed down from sapce? And if the beam is only 1 degree off at any time it will cook a vast area! I think this idea will have a lot of goverements saying no
jjwebster1 2 years ago
you would get a nice sun tan if you flew through that area
calone2005 2 years ago
no its microwaves other end of the spectrum it would fry your brain
livinginoneness 2 years ago
There is a fundamental flaw when stating power output of the sun is in "watts per second". Anybody who is without a degree in the relevant science has no valid opinion because, well you have no idea what you are on about, sorry. Some precise maths is required to support this theory. post script; do not let the C.G.I. persuade your judgement on the validity of these claims.
remember people E=MC^2, this is harvesting passing power in no remarkable way.
hoppy1836 2 years ago
Pah !! .... free energy from the sun ? Daniel Dingel has been running his cars for free for years, the Phillipino government love his invention but are under pressure from the world banks to keep importing petroleum to pay back loans, check him out on youtube.
audimanpov 2 years ago
They are talking about transmitting the energy from space stations to receivers on the ground using microwaves. To be honest, I don't like this idea at all. I believe microwaves can be quite harmful for living beings. I am mainly worried about long-term effects of microwaves on animals and humans (like increasing chance of cancer, etc.).
darthirakli 2 years ago
This page is for discussing the idea on the video, not for bragging about your own ideas, OK?
Smallpawsonthekeys 2 years ago
Perhaps karadan isn't interested in the ideas you come up with during nap time. He's clearly talking about the video. And anyway, the microwave beams would still take a hell of a long time to complete, and the entire project would cost a hell of a lot.
And also, lots of people have thought of collecting water and turning it into hydrogen fuel. Have you thought of actually getting an effiecient converter?
Stop living your godlike asteroid mining fairy tales, and come back and join reality.
Smallpawsonthekeys 2 years ago
yeah thats the one thing, collecting it doesnt seem to be a problem but the focusing of the energy is, will it be able to focus into that realtively small reciever, and if so how much of the energy will be put into focusing the energy if you know what im saying
cars1cars2cars3 2 years ago
I disagree. We have research and big money on fusion. And not a single government dollar aside from a few underfunded mavericks for solar satellites.
While solar satellites might be a better way, nobody is funding it. No money, no research and it doesn't get built.
JayCKat 2 years ago
if it misses or gets hit by a meteror it would go of course and burn evry one
gamerjpcheats 2 years ago
That's the one thing they don't want to happen.
ProphetTenebrae 2 years ago
Fossil fuels ftw
iTormenTi 2 years ago
or we can wait 50 years, and the first commercial fusion reactors should just be coming up online. Right now we can maintain fusion for 6 minutes, getting 10x more energy than was put in (total).
The number needs to get to 1 week... before we get a useful power generator.
JayCKat 2 years ago
Trouble is, I remember it being said that fusion was 50 yr away 20 years ago!
Commercial fusion might be achieved, maybe in less than 50 years, but I don't think we want to risk pinning all our hopes on it.
bimblinghill 2 years ago
bimblinghill : If money is where our mouth is, we are pinning our hopes on nuclear fusion, biofuel, wind turbines and coal conversion. Not single dolar has been spent on solar satellites.
JayCKat 2 years ago
JayCKat: My view is that we should focus the majority of our cash on currently available technology e.g. wind power and up to 20 or so other promising technologies. But, I think more 'blue sky' ideas are worth funding to a smaller degree. Solar satellites are currently blue sky, just as fusion power was until very recently.
bimblinghill 2 years ago
Perhaps, but that has been predicted before, and personally I think it would drive me insane if it did happen. I don't share your confidence that everything will be OK from now on, I expect that we'll have at least a century of muddling through before we have any likelihood of achieving utopia. 2/3 of the world still live in poverty, we have a lot to do, even without a changing climate and an energy crisis.
bimblinghill 2 years ago
When they work out how to deliver the energy in a way that will be affective and have a stable flow without hurting the eco-system, then we will only need that, but the technology is still a few years away, do you agree?..
This comment was much bigger, but youtube would not let me post it, because it was to big.:)
MegaTechGuy 2 years ago
who gives a crap about the planet.....it die......we die!!!
celticareshite 2 years ago
I heard about this 3 years ago, and I fort it was a joke back then. A lot of people said that it could not be possible, because of the technology was not advanced in that kind of process. I've seen what work they have been working on in the past few years and it is outstanding work. It wont solve all our energy problems, but with the new hydrogen fuel cells it will stable a mass amount of problems around the globe.
MegaTechGuy 2 years ago
it similar to a microwave heating up water molecules
stottie301 2 years ago
so u dnt think blasting people with tht amount of microwaves wouldnt kill somone daint think so mate
stottie301 2 years ago
its pointless trying to save the planet now, its gone too far, all this global warming and using all the oil has made the earth a ticking timebomb
guitarnoob14 2 years ago
ha ha ,grow up and get a life!!!!!
marekmagyar 2 years ago
what u mean get a life? how u are suppose to enjoy life if the world is going to end soon
guitarnoob14 2 years ago
the world is not going to end!!!!!!!!!!!!!you are a victim of this global warming hype.just think how is it affecting quality of your life!!!don`t let TV to tell you that we are going to die and another bullshit....There are different problems to solve and believe me, humans are capable of that.Trust human ability and democracy.And get info from both sides.
marekmagyar 2 years ago
Don't be so down-hearted. We've got big problems to solve, but we can do it. When I was a kid the projections were that there'd be 12 billion people by now and we'd have run out of food. It didn't happen like that because people have been doing things about it.. we need your generation to keep your chin up and keep doing the little things to help. Nobody says the 21st century is going to be an easy ride, the 20th wasn't but we got through it.
bimblinghill 2 years ago
sounds good but if aliens invade they could shoot them all taking out our power, lets hope we'll have reserves lol
duncanblitz 2 years ago
RowanEvans123 : Two words, microwave oven. Intense enough microwave and not only do metal sparks, but water boils. And you only need to heat a human body to 43-45 Celsius to kill.
JayCKat 2 years ago
could be used as a weapon i u think about it concentrating massive radio waves onto one city american army wud love tht be a very powerful weapon and could replce nuclear bomb just a theory of course
stottie301 2 years ago
brilliant, a ready made wmd. what if one was to fall out of orbit or be ruptured by space junk. If it hits a populated area, BOOM.........
iioi3 2 years ago
Does anyone remember paying sim city 2000. They had microwave power plants only problem was that every once and a while the microwaves would miss the receiver dish and cook your sims.
Gopher119 2 years ago 2
yeah... redirect this microwave generating satellite over a city and you have an instant death ray. I am sure if you sell it both way power production in peace time, death ray in war. The military will help throw a few billion.
JayCKat 2 years ago
lmfao!
nomad806 2 years ago
This worryingly reminds me of that weapon used in that James Bond film, Die Another Day, Icarus, all this "harnessing of the sun's power," never a good idea!!!
DarkeAngel69 2 years ago 2
I know how to make the ultimate unexhaustable power source right here on earth and dead cheap too. Sadly I need help to make it become a reality..., where do i go to get this help???? i have no idea
avp2501 2 years ago
If you don't know how to promote your idea yourself I doubt you will get funding.
RandomDirectors 2 years ago
simple, exhaustible power is a bottomless money well. Draw up your plans. Get investors... family friends... to get the test done. Then look for venture capitalist. Show them your work. if it is good, they invest and provide some business know. And you will be on the road to unlimited fortune and into the history books
JayCKat 2 years ago
Everyone in the vicinity is guaranteed to get cancer, but it is arguably worth it.
HEarl114 2 years ago
If history has taught us anything, its that godlike power in the wrong hands is very very very bad.
HEarl114 2 years ago
Uhm... I can see myself walking in a field one day and wonder why i'm being fried as a solar power satelite passes by overhead
macca1088 2 years ago 3
the military will take advantage of the technology and use it as a weapon
imilkdude 2 years ago 2
C&C ion cannon :)
chillz27 2 years ago 2
Why not put a smaller, more efficient one on a space shuttle so it won't run out of power and we can actually fly to the moon?
MrCommentz 2 years ago
Birds aswell. When they fly across they'll get cooked. like microwave chicken...
KasHCubeD 2 years ago
rofl
captainretardo 2 years ago
OMG as if I'm arguing with a 15 yo. Look it's unrealistic. It will cost too much money for anyone to bother with it, forget asteroid mining the human race hasn't been further than the moon yet. There's no such thing as free energy! The government is more likely just to say to Joe average: "put some PV equipment on your roof & we will pay for most of the cost of them", I can't see them using tax payers cash to build elaborate monstrosities in space. Stop reciting the alphabet the jokes old now.
spadge2356 2 years ago
Since when has wikipedia been usefully accurate? why bother with patents if your not implementing it? this is about the video not your idea.
Were not using it because it's far fetched, & with regards to renewable's would you like a list? there are 100's cheaper than this idea, and grants are available which make them realistic & affordable! & For this to work it would require vast amounts of raw materials, rocket fuel, iron, silicone you name it. What's wrong with just being conservative?
spadge2356 2 years ago
What would happen to clouds in that area?
It would be good to know.
RandomDirectors 2 years ago
Planes that fly through those beams will become giant rustlers hotdogs.
KasHCubeD 2 years ago
its gona be between earth and the moon i think its so not gona go past any planets exept ours
Fuzzwald92 2 years ago
if that works and it's gonna be implemented, we're going to heat up the earth additionally to the green house effect.... I don't think that's a good solution
ollipodillo 2 years ago
what happens if the satellite moves out of orbit and the beam misses the receivers on the ground and ends up frying a nearby city with microwaves???
k0rva1 2 years ago
It just wouldn't work.
tomatzu 2 years ago
wouldnt tht much focused micro waves burn a hole in the atmosphere especialy wen there going to be hundreads?
and plus i thinks its 2 bit 2 late 2 save the planet now.
plasm2 2 years ago
You mean "too little too late" and it's not. It'll help.
It won't burn a hole in anything, microwaves pass through the atmosphere all the time, just the same way radio waves and light waves do. A laser won't burn a hole and neither would this.
GeekIMOcom 2 years ago
radio waves mostly bounce back to the earth light travels so fast it barely affects it and a laser if focused energy not microwaves.
micro waves at which is focused on one spot thw whole time and wat would happend if the satilites drifts of into a different spot? the radiation will hit wat ever the satelite is under.
plasm2 2 years ago
worth a shot tho innit
wobblysquirrel 2 years ago
possibly, but if you think about it millions of microwaves hit the atmosphere all the time plus the satellites and communications signals from around the world. But since it is concentrated, you have a point... hmmm...
xeroxunlimited 2 years ago
true the atmosphere does get hit by million of microwaves but are they all focused on one exact spot?
plasm2 2 years ago
That exact spot will have some kind of recipient to receive the waves. Also, you said "if it drifts into another spot" I presume they've thought of that, and weren't just planning on hoping they drift around and pass over the odd receiver now n again... They'll be controlled, like other satellites are to stay on course. There's a huge debate about this on geekimo dotC0M if you wanna read that, but cant give ya the like because it'll block the link.. :) It's in the recently active threads. :)
iCONICAACINOCi 2 years ago
Quite a good idea, but it would be extremely expensive.
mevidek 2 years ago
for real
afroguya 2 years ago
dude this is just like the orbital ring in gundam 00 :D
Highstar25 2 years ago
If the humanrace as a whole could unify under one single goal we could have solved problems like the "engery crisis" years ago. If the resources were made avaliable with out having to worry about costs in the spirt of all for a good cause then things would be made one hell of a lot easier but the chance of that happeneing are very slim to none at all. This idea seems to be a slght over the top answer but its production could help pave the way for future development in the area of solarharnessing
fbj676 2 years ago
Did i hear right when the video said they're gonna send MICROWAVES by the ton down to earth? Microwaves? As in the microwaves we use to cook stuff?
Wouldn't that cook anything even remotely close to it? And make every man not so remotely close to it sterile?
Bukakkii 2 years ago
we use microwaves for all sorts of things! ever wondered how sattelites work? and its x-rays that make you sterile, not microwaves.
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barry25364 2 years ago
A - We've established you have a good grasp of the alphabet up to F. well done.
B - Why are people not investing money in your idea if it is as good as you say it is.
C - Why are we not already using it?
D - There are cheaper renewable alternatives.
from my point of view it's over engineering a solution for a problem, I'm sorry I mocked you but I can't take this idea seriously, I don't believe anyone would invest in you anyway, you sound like you have major chip on your shoulder.
spadge2356 2 years ago
Why not just build loads of huge solar panels down on Earth? Saves having to launch stuff into space and having to beam down microwaves that would give us all cancer.
rodney102 2 years ago
Yeah whatever. so where are the investors that are lining up to invest thosands of their own cash in your brilliance? If it's so achieveable why aren't we doing it now? I think your just like all the other fakes that are on here boasting free power for nothing. And by the way I've made my own version of the enterprise out of nothing but some yoghurt pots and some PVA glue. It works by harvesting dylitium crystals from the sea water. By the way it's idiot pending, ask nasa about stupid ideas
spadge2356 2 years ago
You are bi-polar? Try to be more positive.
soyuz27 2 years ago
No your the idiot. If you actually read what I wrote you would understand that I was suggesting we live a more frugal lifestyle not go back to the dark ages. I'm not saying that we shouldn't prosper, I'm highlighting the fact that we don't need things that consume gluttonous amount of energy to live like "a king". For example driving HUGE cars that get 1mpg when you have no use for it. Your living in some star trek fairy tale land if you think this is realistic.
spadge2356 2 years ago
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ps3bots 2 years ago
Fusion power is closer than the technology in this video. Or at least, more viable.
karadan100 2 years ago
aaaand, what happens if there are loads of these things all over the world? All the planes have to change their course, pretty sure its a bad idea to fly through one of these ;/
MaidenheadPk 2 years ago
ohhh i like the soumd off that. whhoooooosh energy flyspast big do-hickies in space and zaaaaap do-hickies fire lazer beams at big fryingpans on the earth and vrrrrrrm energy turned into electric and yay everybodys happy
deanofantastico 2 years ago 2
It's a nice idea to generate 100's time more energy than we need but it's going a little too far isn't it? If we all cut down the amount of energy we needed to fuel our homes, we would be able to use existing technology to create enough renewable energy for everyone. Remember that its all the small changes we do right that add up to the unassailable difference. I don't think science fiction power plants are the answer!
spadge2356 2 years ago
Just all of just switching off power plugs, turning off lights and such ent gonna save the planet.
DUBwilliamz 2 years ago
Absolutely true! But if everyone was a little more conservative we would have more energy for more useful things. Turn your TV's off standby, get PV panels, Biomass fuel boilers ect. Thats going at least some way towards "saving the planet". Much more realistic than this!
spadge2356 2 years ago
And if say, an asteroid hit one, it would knock it, meaning it would be spreading all that solar energy all over the place, can you imagine what would happen to a city, or anything, if the beam hit it?
WaterMelnKid 2 years ago
if one hit im sure it'll be programmed to shutdown.
DUBwilliamz 2 years ago
it shouldnt float, it should just be a really tall tower with ropes holding it to earth with loads of solar panels on the top. The microwaves are like radiation (If i am correct) and would giv people cancer if the beam went astray. We all saw it at chernoble 20 years after they died of cancer due to the radiation still there...
omgwowaddict 2 years ago
yeh then somthing knocks it off then it beams into the earth then we all roast like fucken toasty.
woohoo
jz2oo9 2 years ago
Hey, an orbital power plant! What a great idea! It's not as if Earth orbit is full of random bits of destroyed satellite that could damage an orbital power plant, is it?
iljonathan777 2 years ago
why would there be radiation?
microwaves dont have enough energy to ionize are cells anway and if the satellites are geostationery then they'll never move from the fixed position on earth. Definitley sounds promising.
hartley9306 2 years ago 2
I dont like the idea of microwaves getting beamed onto earth. It will be fine until twenty years later everyone has cancer and they realise they didnt think it through. Why cant we just use solar power on earth by having the panels on earth? Its cheaper too surely?
thisismyspacebugoff 2 years ago
well would work,
till the sun explodes
tezza3697 2 years ago
then we wouldn't need any energy because we would all be dead anyway :P
ProgrammerInProgress 2 years ago
...in 5.5billion or so years. I don't think anyone'll be around then to care :)
Zarachla 2 years ago
if something goes wrong with it we are going to cook like biscuits.
DrFlavour 2 years ago
its good to be happy :D
DrFlavour 2 years ago
My only concern is that government officials would never want to spend the money on this, no matter how efficient it would be. I fail to understand how although this would end HUGE amounts of the Earth's problems, companies would not provide things like this for free.
XxGrantSGxX 2 years ago
there would be alaot of radeation
and
we need some giant batteray to store the energy
not only that but flight plans would have to be miles a way from thEM
joesxnotxemo 2 years ago
well what I was thinking is, will this strong ray of energy that will be concentrated on one place would damage O3 layer?????? or any other damage.
kumarsOO11 2 years ago
You know the Earth spins right? It would not be as concentrated as you would perceive. Good point though, if it really is that amount of energy, surely something would be damaged
XxGrantSGxX 2 years ago
lmao! i thought it was funny matman6866 ^^ haha
Mrkiwi 2 years ago
Meh. People need to start thinking long term. The sun's going to expand and roast the Earth eventually, so nothing we do today makes much difference. Might as well use what we can while its here. Might be good technology to bear in mind for Earth 2 though.
EvilMuppet1979 2 years ago
The sun will expand in about 5 billion years time. There's a lot of human misery that could fit in between now and then, and using "what we can while it's here" has already had a pretty disastrous effect.
ShamonJuice 2 years ago
Ok, sounds good in theory, but just imagen if on of those things was knocked and all that radiation hit a city or built up area.
monkeybike 2 years ago
mutants! or dead people or ZOMBIE INVASION! i think the third is most likley =P
PinkbeardthePirate 2 years ago
micro wave radiation in the atmosphere; are you fools
superandom 3 years ago
Do very high energy microwaves really have no effect on the atmosphere?
Would it affect the O3 layer?
afleececooper 3 years ago
Well i hope they don't put it in a rainforest area where it destorys the nature there like when they did that to the tropical rainforest s of Borneo for those Parm oil plants for so called "renewable energy sorce".
MoonyNco 3 years ago
i can imagine the workers trying to clear the stations of all the birds that fly overhead and get insta-cooked.
generixcorporation 3 years ago
hmm well look at the good side the poor will have food right?
swinabc 2 years ago
if it works it could stop glabol warming, IF it works that is.
aandfriends 3 years ago
so easy?
Nieluch 3 years ago
"Gigawatts per second".. one day we will have science reporters that understand basic science.
BrynFurSeller 3 years ago
I know! It's pronounced JIGGAwatts. And it's 2.21 exactly.
NalaNosivad 3 years ago
I think you mean one point twenty one but I like where you're coming from!
DiscoveryTV 2 years ago
depends where you come from. the narrator is english, and the english pronounce it with a hard G sound
lordieuan777 2 years ago
I AM English, and I've only ever heard it pronounced 'jiggawatt' in Back to the Future.
It was sarcasm. =P
NalaNosivad 2 years ago
=P
im used to hearing Giga this and Giga that in my physics class, and my teacher is a language nazi...
lordieuan777 2 years ago
i swear they did this on James Bond it was called the Icarus or summit
jordanjayd 3 years ago
I've put a link on the Richard Dawkins site, for people on the General chat forum to check this out and comment.
Very interesting and hopefully viable.
Topdoginuk 3 years ago
Great idea - I just hope one of those satallite#s doesn't drift off orbit though! Yecks fried bunny wabbits!
theholygoes 3 years ago
Cool idea. I have always think about it since I was a kid.
pchackal 3 years ago
I remember this design from Sim City 2000
ScientopiaTV 3 years ago
well what if one of them gets moved somehow then theres a massive laser slicing earth like a club sandwich!
wachmekillu 3 years ago
this is on sim city :P
jackcday 3 years ago
its funny that technology fucked us over, and now were using more technology to save us
Basetrem 3 years ago
So true
warkarma 3 years ago
LOL @ the guy who posted this. You want to save the world? Then turn off your computer and save energy.
;)
beetrooty12 3 years ago
Fail.
Yasmar89 3 years ago
lol..that was crap ¬
introspectiv07 3 years ago 2
It is certainly a neat idea, and to all extents renewable and clean.
I am concerned in regards to how much it would cost to maintain the orbital power stations (from meteor strikes etc.) and also the risk of a microwave beam being misdirected (possibly from a meteor strike again); even a slight tilt could direct the microwave beam towards the city that the receiver is powering.
Call me a paranoid guy who has played too much SimCity 2000, but isn't it worth keeping that in mind?
WaterCrane 3 years ago